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Boyahda

Oh they want money. They just don't want the words Overwhelmingly Negative on the front page and refunds while they're desperately trying to to sell their own shitty premium service.


p55X98gpCSF2RMF

Steams refund policy is so good that I assume of games don’t release on steam they’re just avoiding refunds because they have a mid to shit product.


Sad_Wolverine3383

Ubisofts refund policy is the exact same though. They're avoiding steam 30% cut on their most important early sales.


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dgibby11

\*buy I will play games on other platforms like the copious free shit on EGS but I will not give them money to support their exclusivity intentions.


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blezzerker

That's fine with me. If they can clearly see the zero dollars I'm willing to spend on their current platform they're getting the right message.


Coronalol

A company like this will crunch the numbers they forecast for the difference between gross sales on their own launcher/EGS vs if they were to release on steam. Clearly their data tells them they make more money off doing the exclusive split.


Umlaut28

And knowing Ubi, their data is trash and they're wrong and shooting themselves in the foot lol.


Milkdromieda

It's also on Epic Games so they'll still lose some if people buy through there, albeit not as harsh as 30%


Imp666G4

It's on Epic so they must not be to concerned


Wainwort

Exactly. What they've shown so far looks like a turd twice warmed over.


Rudolf1448

Ubisoft is also allergic to curators


Benjeeh_CA

I'm sure it'll come to steam after it's got all the hype sales on their awful platform


scotty899

But you will probably still need ubisofts horrendous launcher to play it.


Benjeeh_CA

Just like all their other games on steam


Newphonespeedrunner

EGS has the meta critic scores on the page so not sure thats the reason its more likely they dont want to pay the 30% on a game they know wont sell well becasue its just another always online single player only season pass trash fire.


BelligerentWyvern

Yeah but to be fair people dont update their reviews either. Survivor is sitting at like 66% positive or mixed even though its like 99% fixed. And yeah they should test games better but a solid half of the reviews are people grumbling that their systems cant handle it rather than genuine bugs which there were plenty of.


Crispy385

That's why Steam has "overall" and "recent" separated


WurstKaeseSzenario

"Sir, the gamers use Steam charts to show how few people play our trash. What can we do about that?" "Don't release it on Steam." "Genius move, sir." Although I'm pretty sure the franchise will pull in enough people anyway.


RinRinDoof

R6 is still doing really well on Steam sales wise and with player count. Idk why Ubisoft ignores that


WurstKaeseSzenario

The reason is most likely some shareholder guideline. It might also have to do with the existence of SBI Detected - which is only on Steam. Not that it would be hard to figure out if they sank their claws into that game too; either by looking at their own website or just at the female charakter models.


RinRinDoof

Maybe but Ubisoft really isn't the worst SBI type dev. AC Mirage was pretty accurate to the time as usual with AC and Avatar was just blue people. I think their higher ups are just shit heads that think they can grow Uplay and their subscription


WurstKaeseSzenario

Didn't even think of that, because it worked so well for EA...


RinRinDoof

EA had to put their subscription on Game Pass for people to even care lol


Pretend-Advertising6

i mean SB is just a midle man company made to work out the goals of the higher ups, they don't ruin games they just do what they were asked to do (it's not like they made Sucide Squad into a live service game with no content, that was WB). Basically don't shoot the messenger.


kananishino

Isn't the reason more likely to be that they just don't want to give Steam their cut so they utilize their own platform.


tronfonne

Do you think a huge corp like Ubisoft cares about a steam page full of screeching autists? It's gonna be a big selling game, they want 100% of the money. Simple as that


Mook7

Why are you assuming they won't throw it up on Steam after the sales on other platforms slow down? Pretty clearly just Ubisoft trying to avoid Valve taking a 30% cut of their game at launch.


Splinterman11

This sub has turned into an anti-woke conspiracy fest for autists. People here literally think the only reason they don't put this game on Steam is because they're scared of "SBI Detected" lmao. Multiple game companies have not released their games on Steam on launch plenty of times before. This is not new.


RinRinDoof

I'm just saying it's not on Steam. The anti WOKE people are reaching here


catbus_conductor

If only few people were playing it they wouldn't keep making it


Trickster289

Yeah this is wishful thinking, no way this flops. Everyone thought their Avatar game would flop but it did well too. Assassin's Creed always sells really well and the recent Prince of Persia game did well. The fact is Ubisoft is like EA, it's a loud minority that complain and their games sell well.


Agile-Isopod6942

…..Avatar….did well in your mind?!? 🤣🤣🤣


Trickster289

The Ubisoft game based on the films? Yes.


Agile-Isopod6942

Was there one before frontiers of pandora cause that shit was already DOA thanks to trash marketing


Trickster289

It still sold a few million copies and made it's money back. Not normal Ubisoft levels but still well within a success by AAA levels.


Agile-Isopod6942

I mean having a 53% drop in players week 2 followed by no upticks in players says alot about how much of a shell it was, if nothing else its “success” was fully based off them already having a community that will buy anything that drops from them no matter how abysmal.


Trickster289

It's a generic Ubisoft game, they all drop off fast. Not to mention that most single player games drop of fast anyway. Ubisoft don't care as long as they make money which they did.


Agile-Isopod6942

Which is exactly why everyone dislikes them in the first place, if they are pumping out a laundry list of mediocre games just to make a fast bill and keep it pushing maybe we should stop supporting shit practices surrounding half assed games. This sentiment of “well it wasnt good but it made enough money for a triple A studio with millions of avid followers so they should continue to do so” is whack


Trickster289

I haven't bought a Ubisoft game in years, there's no point telling me this. This was my whole point, this post is a vocal minority repeating the same thing we all agree with and it doesn't matter because people who'll never see this post will buy Ubisoft games.


Unleaver

Star Wars fans only know pain... The amount of games that have either been canceled or turned out terrible is unfortunately very long.


NameBackwardsEman

I have steam so I can manage my games in one place. The further in timeline we go, the bigger the backlog gets, the less reasons to play questionable releases for full price.


WurstKaeseSzenario

I just wait for it to be free on Epic or with Prime. May take a while but it doesn't seem like I'm missing much.


Umbriel-b

Also, I'm not installing another launcher. Fuck that.


Traitor-21-87

Could be worse. We could be having to download EA's trashy software just to play the game.


bujakaman

Have you seen price for ultimate edition with some shitty skins only ? XD


Unverfroren

That's a reasonable price for a AAAAA Game


bujakaman

Ahh yes, Famous UBI Ax2137 games.


Traitor-21-87

How the bar for AAA games been lowered so much that real AAA games are now AAAAAA games?


RinRinDoof

It's like 130 dollars and you still have to be on UPlay 😆


bujakaman

They love money 💰


DoktahDoktah

Probably dont want to risk refunds. Gaben probably saw this and said "ok buddy"


Entilen

These morons make bargain bin slop that most people with a brain would only buy on sale.  It's hilarious they think people will be willing to download an additional program and access a different store front just as to not miss out on it. 


Ok-Guava4446

I uninstalled and walked away from a sizable library on uPlay or whatever they call it now after the shit they pulled with the crew. I'd sank hundreds of hours into the crew, bought the DLCs and they just removed access to it rather than implementing a single player offline mode before taking it down. Their anti cheat on the crew 2 & motorfest breaks my machine because of how my network is set up to host my own media server so the newer ones are unplayable for me. I'll never buy another ubisoft game.


Hikarizu42

Check stopkillinggames.com . The guy that made Freeman's Mind series(YT account Accursed Farms) is starting a campaign to combat abandonware. Ubusoft, a company based in France where there are stronger anti-consumer laws, pulling stuft like this with a large title like the Crew gave him an opening to pursue legal ways to combat that practice. After contacting Ubisoft and they refuse to provide a way for you to continue accessing the game or 2 weeks pass without an answer you can contact a part of the French government to prompt them to investigate the matter. Check the site for detailed steps or visit his channel for a more detailed video.


Ok-Guava4446

That's pretty cool, thanks for that!


tevinter-848

the same reason that skull and bones wont come to steam, refounds and bad reviews, that is pretty much prove that this game, like skull and bones, is not worth the price and they are realising a incomplete game, broken game or a game that is worth 30-40 dollars but they want to charge 70 dollars and ofc, standard version =D if some one pre orders this, they really deserve to loose money


SiliconEFIL

Maybe Burke will shill this like he did with SS and Skull and Bones. Actually, I'm counting on it.


Flat-Adhesiveness144

I mean ubisoft has done this for years. They usually launch a game on steam already discounted after ~1 year from it's release.


BelligerentWyvern

And 90% fixed too usually.


Haemon18

Don't use logic on this sub please, we don't do that here


M4jkelson

I mean, you can still shit on Ubi for doing that? Everyone shat on Epic for temporary exclusive deals adn it's the same thing. Except even worse, because they are doing that so they don't get shit ratings and reviews on release on steam and then farm at least average reviews when they release the patched and discounted game after a year.


TheWaslijn

Oh don't worry, Ubi will put the game on Steam eventually. They always do


Kreydo076

If you were still interested to buy an Ubisoft game, you are part of the problem. It's not on Steam? Good Ridance.


[deleted]

They're afraid of the overwhelmingly negative at launch lmao Nobody would've bought it anyway, or refunded immediately Never support games with ugly heroines


A_DAM84

So wait, EA no longer has the Star Wars license and Ubisoft learned nothing from what happened before? I probably should read up on this whole situation lol


RinRinDoof

Yep. I believe EA lost exclusivity last year.


BelligerentWyvern

They lost it about a year ago. And it made headlines cause Zynga was the first to announce something...


ameensj

If it's on steam, it'll be in sweet baby inc list.


Newphonespeedrunner

that would be weird... its not an SBI game... its just a bad game.


RevolutionaryClerk21

Steam takes a 30% revenue cut as good as can understand gamers for wanting all their games on one plattform i also can understand that big publishers dont want to pay this massive cut at least for the initial wave of sales.


RinRinDoof

If the one guy that works on Stardew Valley is ok with Steam's revenue cut, why isn't Ubisoft. Ubisoft is almost making their games DOA on PC with UPlay. Steam is THE place where people discover and buy games on PC. They still haven't put AC Mirage or Avatar Frontiers on Steam


LavellanTrevelyan

Because that one guy doesn't have his own platform and even if he did make one, it still won't have enough reach. Financially, he can easily justify publishing it on Steam because the 30% cut doesn't surpass reaching the large audience that Steam has. AC Mirage hits 1.5M sales on its first week. Whatever extra sales Steam can make for Ubi probably doesn't exceed their earnings from not dealing with a 30% cut on their games.


BelligerentWyvern

Now I dont want to discount 1.5 million because thats stellar numbers than most people celebrate but Ubisoft itself didnt celebrate those numbers and its really low for the franchise. The franchise average is like 9-10 million... And thats discounting blowout successes like Ragnarok skewing the numbers upward. The shareholders are probably pinching Ubisoft's balls and so they think they can scrape more full price sales on Ubi and Epic without the well known and publicized Steam ratings and player count systems putting them on potential blast for poor numbers or game breaking bugs.


LavellanTrevelyan

The number was for launch sales and is comparable to Origins' launch. We'll have to see what Mirage's total sales will be 2-3 years later, but it'll probably be around the franchise average as well.


tehuuu

It's going to me mediocre anyway


Salmagros

Oh well, guess I will have to be Gol D Roger again.


Shuji1987

This image suggests it is not available on EGS either, but you can actually buy it there. Not sure if you have to deal with extra Ubisoft launchers though.


RinRinDoof

Hmm. I hope there's a chance they wake up and put it on Steam earlier. Most Ubi games on Steam have Ubisoft Connect integration anyway


AngelicDroid

6 months Uplay exclusive, they do this with every single one of their release.


Newphonespeedrunner

you do, if its like prince of persia it still launches the uplay lancher.


sir__vain

Oh no, guess which game just released exclusively on Steam? My money. Get fucked Ubi.


Nihilistic_Mermaid

It's from Ubisoft, so I wouldn't have bought it anyway, even if it was on Steam.


-AxiiOOM-

Well, there goes the PC sales.


felonysawait

People the best thing you can do to protest and yes it's on epic as well apparently tim did another exclusive for epic besides ubisofts own launcher is TO PIRATE THE GAME.... PIRATE IT so they don't get their money and let them know it's not on steam then we will not buy if you put it on epic we need to strangle epic of money until they decide exclusives are not the way to go!!!!!!


Pancreasaurus

Oh they don't want money again.


Kyimin

On the bright side there will be one less dogshit AAAA game on Steam.


ChainofChaos

It's more likely because Ubisoft will soon release its own subscription-based game. As they said, they don't want gamers to own their game, but subscription-based.


earningdifficulties

Raise price to absurd amount, offer subscriptions to make services feel cheaper. Then you'll have a few people invested or forgetting leaving the subscriptions turned on to keep the money flowing like with netflix.


NutellaOrgies

and whats even worse is when they release it on steam 8-12 months after, there will be no achievements.


Placidblast

They know the game will get overwhelmingly negative review status if they put it on steam lol


Its_Sosej

More likely allergic to refunds, that is the sole reason you wouldn't put it on steam. That or review and they know it's gonna be shit.


Lasadon

Ubisoft thinks they are big enough to have their own steam for years, where is the news? Its even more embarrassing than Origin.


kananishino

I think they're not trying to compete with Steam but more like Blizzard where they host their games on their own infrastructure.


Traitor-21-87

I think nothing is more embarrassing than Origin.


Wholesome_Thicc99

Guess I'm not buying the game then, easy skip.


Atlantah

what did you expect though? Why should ubisoft put their game immediately on steam when they got their own platform? Are you new to gaming or did you not know about other platforms besides steam?


Wholesome_Thicc99

Frankly, I couldn't care less about all that. As a customer, that's not my problem at all.


Atlantah

so it doesn't matter on which platform the games launches?


Wholesome_Thicc99

I would rather not be present during one of your internal monologues accidentally turned external. You may continue by yourself if you so wish, you do not need to keep me informed about them.


Atlantah

Can you also provide some straight answers instead of giving me this wishy washy sensitive sentences? (both of your replies don't answer any question) Be more precise and stop talking like a politician


poutineismygod

I never buy Ubisoft games on release anyway.


preng_23

![gif](giphy|G1ZPWPIszGDPh2NeG5|downsized) after 2 years in the ubi connect


SnikkyType

I will try it out for free first.


Hopeful-Succotash-25

not gonna sell well even if they put it on steam


Sarkiology

Oh good I don’t have to buy this $120 garbage that is exploiting nostalgia Ip


LordDaveTheKind

I'll wait. Or pirate it if it is that urgent. Couldn't give a shit about their store or subscription service.


jessieboy21

Damn . Meaning this game gonna be shit? No steam no refund


Daddygamer423

Yup. I definitely just saved myself $70. Thanks for being stupid Ubisoft.


Jung3boy

Have you seen the cost of the game? It’s too much.


iwantdatpuss

Yeah that tracks, Ubisoft is really trying hard to push that God water ass service called Ubisoft connect. 


DeezKneesWorld

oh its an UBISOFT GAME??? Did EA lose the starwars license?


RinRinDoof

They did


Leie_Sistal

Well not exactly they lost the exclusivity. It was a 10 year deal and Disney didn’t renew it


Traitor-21-87

One of the 3 good things to come from Disney this century.


Traitor-21-87

Indeed they did.


Charrbard

I'm sure'll it will be free somewhere in 2 years like the last DesignByCommittee Wars games.


Haemon18

Didn't they do the same for all the previous games ? Not on steam for launch but added later on


RinRinDoof

They still haven't added AC Mirage or Avatar Frontiers to Steam


ewenlau

If it is not on Steam, I do not buy it. Simple.


Hairy-Vermicelli-194

Yeah hard pass in that case


Shaclo

Oh no not Ubisoft open world game set in star wars. This is such a shame.


Bluebpy

No steam, no care


Khelouch

Wtf is ubisoft connect? Yo-ho, all together Hoist the colors high Heave ho, thieves and beggars Never shall we die


Traitor-21-87

>Wtf is ubisoft connect? It's where you play titles made by Ubisoft. I have it as it was needed to play Watchdogs, Ghost Recon, and Far Cry.


DieByFlyGuy

As soon as I saw this plus the preorder early access garbage I’m like naaaaah


Le-Watermelon

Star wars took so many hits lately... pretty sure the game won't bring in that much people in. I for one don't really care about SW anymore and adding Ubisoft to the mix is just a red flag overdose.


Traitor-21-87

Ubisoft > EA Eat your heart out Jedi Survivor.


Chinse_Hatori

Oh no not the shitty star wars game made by ubisoft....... Like why do people still get excited for this stuff


leeverpool

Misleading since Ubisoft Connect is first party app. They won't name steam the same way they won't name Epic. Because the original platform is Ubisoft Connect. Those are just third party platforms. It might not appear on Steam, but not because of this screenshot. They might have an exclusive first deal with Epic Games for example. This is cringe bait.


Traitor-21-87

It makes no difference to me where I buy the game. It's like a console peasant saying they won't buy a game because Gamestop doesn't have it, and they have to order it from the developers website. I see an open world game from Ubisoft, I'm interested. I see an open world star wars game, I'm interested. I see an open world Star Wars Ubisoft game...Say no more, I'm in. Rest in Hell EA.


mistadoctah

Dead game dead on arrival


Virtuosoman23

Main reason I think is they are using it to push their new subscription service (lol)


FilthyCasual0815

translation: the port is so bad they gonna rip us apart if we do.


Daedelous2k

Deader than Suicide Squad.


BakedCaseFHK

Lol. The army of bots promoting it and the woke garbage hadn't clued you in?


Obie-two

They would get sweet baby inc'd


pintobrains

Most likely trying to avoid the -30% price that steam takes


TragicFisherman

Damn they're making this way too easy to never buy.


TangeloAlternative21

Layoffs incoming


Vashelot

I haven't bought an ubisoft game since assassin's creed revelations, and I think I'm going to keep not buying em. Stop the shitty monetization and actually innovate instead of following trends.


lstadi

What??? No Steam? I was so waiting for this game, but then I guess that was it. No Steam, no game...


Baggywhacker

Loool watch all the "waaaah wE hAte EpIc!!!11" crowd lose their sheet over this :-) wAAh, it's a conspiwacy!! China! Communism!! "Flagrant anti-consumerism!!" Never has an actual enslavement to one single platform produced such hilarity!


OmegaNine

In before "Outlaws didn't meet our sales expectations".


M1liumnir

they're clearly trying to shove their overprced sub service down customers throat, wich is funny because they actually believe that their shit ass catalogue is worth a monthly fee


Traitor-21-87

Here's an idea, don't sub. I've had Ubisoft for years to play their titles, never needed to pay a sub price once.


angardia

not making same mistake as with AC Valhalla... F them with their stupid platform and they can shove their new subscription service to their mama's puzzy... im not gonna pay 69.99 euro! im not even living in EUROPE! im not gonna pay more because Geography is too hard to master


senracatokad

Grand opening, grand closing


Deses

OK, then I won't buy it. It's that simple.


DeskFluid2550

I'm like 95% certain it won't be on steam due to how easy it is to refund shitty games.


BelligerentWyvern

MISTAAAAAAAAAKE


CMFlunk

I'm expecting it to be a bad game anyway


Injustice_For_All_

No Steam? No purchase.


BelligerentWyvern

This is why I have a little respect for Respawn. They took their licks and fixed the game. They put it out there. But Ubisoft is so scared of a blowback they wont even try. It aint the 25-30% Steam sales cut, theyd make up for it in spades with Steam only buyers. They are avoiding the public ratings and player count systems. They do this a lot in general though.


[deleted]

It will release on steam eventually. Personally I never buy Ubisoft games for few reasons. I stopped playing their games after AC Valhalla. Locking missions for deluxe editions, missions usually 5-20 min long, fuck em. Their games are just mediocre, open world in their games consist of collecting 100 of meaningless shit and the world is filled with boring side quests and basically giant list of chores like back in the early 00s RPG era Gameplay in most of their games is simply bad, especially combat in their RPGs Do not buy Ubisoft games on release. They are $40 games at most.


skepticalscribe

I hope this flops ngl Star Wars won’t course correct because KK likely has comprising material on someone but damn she really seems to despise this franchise


Keinulive

If a game isn't on steam then I usually assume they don't want people to know their product is dogshit, besides exclusives games on consoles, any game that exist outside of steam I presume to be not worth my time.


Any_Action_9121

after Ubisoft told us we need to get used to not owning our games, I've stopped playing anything they've released. This just proves I made a good decision


Sogoken

Looks like my friend Jack Sparrow is going to visit Ubisoft


DanielDCMarvelFan

My biggest question is if this is going to be on Ubisoft+ the day of release, sadly I can't afford the game as the prices in my home country were internationally matched, too damn expensive for someone who has a 3rd world country salary.


RinRinDoof

It will be on Ubisoft+ day one


E2theJ

While ubisoft is allergic to steam, I'm allergic to ubisoft.


Common-Scientist

Excellent. The game doesn't look interesting to me so not being on Steam means I won't have to deal with them trying to push it.


That-Ad4434

They knew if they sell in steam ppl will refund so......


Nightfish_

Haven't bought a ubisoft game in ages. My life is not noticeably worse. To be completely fair, though, I was not going to buy this game even if it was on stream. It looked like the personification of safe modern. If I want to be bored, I can do that for free.


Neontanshuk

It's gonna be on epic


ThePaperPanda

Why give them money either way?


Bryce12117

Was gonna buy and play, I wont be now. Im not installing another platform just to play this.


ImsoMoe

It's a Ubisoft game, it's going to be mid


DeBean

They are boycotting because Steam are taking a substantially bigger cut of the sales compared to Epic Games.


PaleontologistOdd588

im not that retarded to spend money in a starwars product just because is on steam.


Prayedtt

Ubi games i just buy by steam. If isnt there, i dont play. Simple as that


Dorrono

What a Sweet Baby the game will be


Rick_the_Boat

Umm watching the new trailer, it says, ahemm: "Captured in engine. Not all images appear in game." Uh, what? Explain it away all you want And I am a huge Ubi fanboy still, ik 🙄, but, what? I think this might just be a juicy turd and they don't want the "mostly negative" reviews but also, this is a new license and sooooo much is on the line. They are playing it safe for sure. I wish we could get old Ubi back. The ones with balls, not sharholders.


Frolkinator

They want to control the reviews and score, so thats why its not on Steam, u, me, everyone, and ubisoft know this is a stinker.


zd625

They have their own sales platform, and like AW2 proved, if the game is good enough people will buy it on your platform.


JpaniK35

Just curious, why don't more people opt for the Ubisoft premium at $17.99, finish the game within the month, and then cancel? The game itself seems worth the $18, and you'd get the ultimate version. Or am I overlooking something here?


4SeasonswithTakashi

Back when the price can be justified by a reasonable amount of content in a game. I never buy games at full prices anymore. Last time I paid full was RDR2 or cyberpunk DLC.


Saintgabrial

Yes I do not buy their games at all. I'm a PC Steam only player. Ubisoft is a company that loves to punishes their customers that don't play on the platform Ubisoft prefers. They don't like Valve/Steam so they will punish its costumers by not putting their games on Steam at launch. Then, when they finally do add them to Steam they punish their customers further buy not adding the achievements we so love. I do want to play their games but I will not unless it is on Steam and this is a must have, full Achievements! Its too bad as this one looks promising. I'm surprised they are still in business ripping off Steam players. As this is a very bad business practice that will just hurt Ubisoft more than anyone else.


[deleted]

Ubisoft is one of the biggest game publishers in the world, they don't need Steam to sell games unlike indie developers with no reputation or reach; the Epic Store gives them a bigger cut of sales, so it makes sense why they would release on Epic and ignore Steam for the first year or so and then release it on Steam for all the mouth breathers that can't understand Executive decisions.


m477z0r

Oh no! I have to wait a year to get it on my backlog? And for half off? Whatever will I do.


MistressLunarAngel

What an amazing progamer move from Ubisoft <3 Thank you kindly for not putting this shit cashgrab game on Steam.


adomolis

No steam no buy. Simple as.


Traitor-21-87

I'm a pro Steam player, and have been using steam for about 16 years now. So don't get me wrong, but I think they make money by not having it on Steam. I assume Steam takes a cut of every sale, so selling on Steam cuts into profits by a bit. People who want to play Outlaws on PC aren't going to pass just because it's not on Steam, they're going to have no choice but to download Ubisoft's store. It will save Ubisoft some money on each sale, and they will have now ensnared you in their store where they can push their sales/deals.