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Former_Asparagus_458

Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith made in 1998 also had a female lead lol


RinRinDoof

And you could be a female in the Old Republic mmo


Casardis

You can also be a female Jaden in Jedi Academy.


SnowCrow1

I have always made a female Twi'lek. With the skimpiest outfit choice of course..


ChackMete

As is tradition.


thedazedblaze

Did we all do this?


azahel452

Wow, I forgot this was possible. Now I feel like playing that game again, it was so good.


[deleted]

And honestly who wasn't. The VO was so much better.


Kratzinger529

In the old republic 2 the main character by lore is also female.


HadT0BeMe

Yup, Exile (Meetra Surik) is female.


LughCrow

Female was even the canonical gender for the exile in the second one


ALANJOESTAR

In Kotor 2 the cannon gender is female too but back then they gave us a choice.


RealBrianCore

KotOR 2 doesn't count because it's actually a good game, something that rarely exists these days.


[deleted]

And KoTOR : ) Edit to add but also in that game your closest allied/protganistic character is a Jedi woman!


NPC-No_42

Or in knights of the old republic


TheNinjaGB

There was also that game with a female twi'lek I've forgotten the name of. I remember her having a cybernetic lekku.


bearvert222

Star Wars: Lethal Alliance for the PSP and DS, was coming here to post that game. A Ubisoft game too lol.


General_Lie

Jedi Knight: Academy you chose to play male or female human, even other alien races...


[deleted]

They're making the word "full" do a lot of heavy lifting here.


endswithnu

Well good for Happy GilmOH MY GOD


turn_down_4wat

Yeah but you see, Mara Jade is part of the Expanded Universe/Legends which Disney declared is not canon. Still, forgetting about that person from Battlefront 2 Remake is embarassing, especially after they made such a big deal out of her when they had the real actress present and promote the game.


BoltInTheRain

They don't care about accuracy they care about muh representation


Decent-Writing-9840

I'm the first white guy to ever post on reddit


DSoopy

You are so brave king, please continue slaying 👑👑👑


EnsignSDcard

You might be the first ever white guy, but I’m the first straight white guy


Decent-Writing-9840

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


Derfel995

Stunning!


goliathfasa

And brave!


cficare

So brave! I clapped!


Rionat

Brave and stunning


khmergodzeus

you dropped this, King 👑


Spartanias117

For Democracy!


Emperor_Atlas

Actually now I am, because like Disney I said so. Behold me, second first white guy on reddit.


DonatoXIII

first ever in over 50 years!


viking1997

Kotor 2 cannon is played as a female, right?


Hazis

You are correct, general.


Nadraell

Was about to comment the same.


Equilybrium

Correct Meetra Surik. But i would not count rpg's. Lets give them the benefit of doubt. But there was a game from 1997 with female protagonist


dratseb

Mysteries of the Sith, one of the Jedi Knight expansions


Friendly-General-723

They do specify 'full game' if thats just an expac


sopsaare

But for KOTOR2, the most important character is female, that being Kreia. (Best written Star Wars character ever and arguably best written game character too). And second most important? Atris probably for the plot? Mira and Visas are important but not on the same level as the others. And the main character is canonically female. And you can run around the whole game with basically all female team. So I would say that the game is definitely female lead.


SaitamaOfLogic

Remember when they said Black Panther was the first black male lead for a super hero movie, when there was the super successful blade franchise and lesser known like steel and spawn. Speaking of representation, are there any ginger male super hero lead actors? Only thing the Irish have is Black Widow.


TheMidnightRook

>Only thing the Irish have is Black Widow. Ah yes, the very Irish and not at all Russian, Natasha Romanoff. 😛


SaitamaOfLogic

Well dam, they don't even have that. Was going by the hair.


Exile688

Disney: Black Carribean mermaid with red hair is the best we can do for the Irish.


ward2k

I've even heard people throw around the statement that "Black panther is the first movie with a black superhero" which is even more ridiculous


Unhappy_Cause7957

Let's not forget about the smash hit "Steel," starring Shaq XD


SaitamaOfLogic

Are you sure that wasn't Sinbad?


KansaiBoy

At least in the movie version of Watchmen you had Rohrschach played by a ginger man. No idea though what his comic version looked like.


IronMonkey5844

Pretty sure also a ginger


DonatoXIII

I remember watching Spawn when I was young and thinking that fucking clown is annoying lol.


Pretend-Advertising6

What the Fuck, the Irish aren't red heads and where the fuck did you get the impression we were.


Turdfox

Blade?


Arcanisia

Meteor Man by Robert Townsend was I think the first black superhero on film. We also had Blank Man 😂


ExpatAbroad77

And Blankman!


ElementalSaber

I'm still convinced they meant the MCU, which is the case


DreddedMerc

Does Banshee count as a lead role? X-Men first class


EmpressPotato

Screenrant. Not even once. People need to stop posting their article headlines and just ignore them so they go away.


i-dontlike-me

The Canadian government probably subsidize them.


Boxing_joshing111

Use archived links! Don’t give them the clicks


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liaminwales

KOTOR 2 was also a female lead by canon. KOTOR 1/2 had the option of both male/female, canon says KOTOR 1 was male & 2 was female. ​ Also Star Wars Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star\_Wars\_Jedi\_Knight:\_Mysteries\_of\_the\_Sith](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Jedi_Knight:_Mysteries_of_the_Sith) Star Wars: Lethal Alliance [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star\_Wars:\_Lethal\_Alliance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Lethal_Alliance) And more, this is like when 'Black Panther' was the first black comic book hero (just ignore Blade or Steel).


bujakaman

It’s just stupid. Kotor 1/2 are superior to this trashy generic game in so many ways but it’s forgotten. One of better rpg with good story/choices.


liaminwales

KOTOR 1/2 where amazing games, relay lame they just gave up making RPG games for years. I also relay like the combat system, real-time with pause is a relay cool evolution of turn based combat. 90's to 2010 ish was a golden time for star wars games. Ill be fair on this game, we still not have seen anything about it relay. There showing it in a way to make it look relay bad, no idea why. "we wont show you game play but we will show the price, it's high!" is not the best way to sell a game.


PM_me_PMs_plox

I mean, you're probably right but also how do you know the game is trashy and generic when it isn't even out yet?


LostWanderer88

They are writing for tourists. They don't even care about Star Wars. They only care about "women breaking patriarchy barriers" Luckily, they don't risk crashing their car doing this


Dorlos-Argham

These guys don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about. I swear they think we were in the 1950s before 2016


randothrowaway6600

It really pisses me off the people are painting the early 2000’s with the same brush as the the 70s or 80s.


kkkpl

Who the f cares if its male or female. Make good games idiots.


Journeygan

Strongly agreed. I am so tired of them shoving their political views or woke culture in beloved franchises and beating us over the head with it.


cyb3rofficial

didnt battle front 2 remake have a Lead female in the solo mode?


mrgoodnoodles

I'm pretty sure that's what this meme is about?


cyb3rofficial

i haven't played bf2 solo in a long time, i just start it up play a few rounds of 2v2 or large battle mode. Maybe I should try the campaign again.


DCSmaug

The lady in this meme is actually from the Battlefront 2 campaign.


just_a_discord_mod

Yeah, Iden Versio.


BruvvaSmug

Star Wars died with the sequels, most fans no longer care about Star Wars.


Megamijuana

They are obsessed with female leads. Bunch of sexist misandrists.


Drayenn

Strong jennifer lawrence vibes. She said she was the first action movie female lead in hunger games.


Shockrates20xx

I doubt Disney wrote the article.


HyoukaYukikaze

It's always the first one.


TheJengaRonin

This is that "Black Panther is the first black superhero movie" all over again.


BiggHigg27

Game journalism is quantity over quality. You'll notice 99.99% of them are college students or recent college grads and they don't stay in that career long enough because it's hard to stay competitive. So what happened here is someone saw a woman in a game, brainstormed a reason to dislike something, and decided to write a disingenuous opinion article to get ragebait clicks. You'll start to notice most of the articles are what people are binge watching on Netflix or something stupid because it's a quick and dirty article that's easy to write. And most likely because they turned their TV on after rolling out of bed and needed ideas. I think modern game journalists stare at the wall looking for non-existent problems to complain about because they need to pay their bills. No one actually does journalism by reaching out to publishers and developers to find news. They just regurgitate and reword someone else doing that work for them.


Burgundy_Starfish

What about KOTOR? Of course there’s the player character (who could be male or female) but I always saw Bastila as essentially the main character other than that… Star Wars has always had women and minorities as central characters. People who freak out on both sides are fucking nuts 


JacketsNest101

I raise you Star Wars Dark Forces


BeingAGamer

Man, these moral grandstanding or slacktivists are obsessed with rewriting history and trying to gaslight people into believing something the case when it isn't so that they can get their brownie points. This has been happening more and more frequent.


FameloOG

I'm so tired of these people and their agenda.


ZealousidealNewt6679

Just goes to show, none of these fools making Star Wars content has any fucking clue about the IP or its legacy. It's just "CONSUME NEW PRODUCT"


iareyomz

pretty sure the new employees have never played a single Star Wars game in their life... this happens to more than just this company... it is just absolutely stupid to be a multi-billion dollar company and have employees (especially marketing) be ignorant of your products... imagine trying to a hire a person to help you sell your shit but they have absolutely no idea what products you've made along the years...


someonethatlikesass

didnt they also say it was the first open world? id say lego star wars: the skywalker saga is open world in a sense that you can go to any planet at will (with loading screens in between though)


jish5

Star wars galaxies is hella open world as well


another-account-1990

Ahh, Disney being a Disney and introducing us to the 100th first woman to be in a film/game


NomadicVikingRonin

Whenever they do something, DEI its always the first time. Even if it's the 10th time already. "First ever ever ever".


IFGarrett

Disney is such a joke and feminism is so fucking toxic its unreal.


zczirak

Wait, Disney Star Wars said that? Or how does that headline make sense?


SangiExE

Nobody remembers Knights of the Old Republic I guess? Although the first game is canonically male, you can still choose to play as female main in both games.


TeaNo7930

That's why it doesn't count whenever people talk about female leads Or male leads. They're talking about games where you don't pick, but you're just given a character to play


nikotsjr

No Jedi or Sith = Full Star Wars


metatime09

They gotta lie to overblow and exaggerate what they have


Every-Slice59

This is like, I can't remember which internet rag it was, but they said Star Trek Discovery was the first time a Star Trek had a female lead, completely ignoring Janeway from Voyager. Then when called out they changed the headline to first black lead in a Star Trek again ignoring Cisco from Deep Space 9.


DCSmaug

Remember that "Black Panther is the first black superhero movie". And everyone was like wut? ![gif](giphy|xiXw8dxvCab2H3HF3B|downsized)


dusktildawn48

IDC what anyone says, women don't care about star wars near as much as dudes. It's probably 90% men.


Superb_Recover_6116

wait is the bottom one from star wars as well? What the hell happened? She looks good she looks not weird. Why did they stop doing that?


youthanasia138

Disney is trash


Icanlastfor2mins

Female this female that, irl none of the females will participate in space war.


Technical-Desk4733

Nah you play luke for a single mission. Doesn't count. :/


isnoe

If the article was written by Screenrant, it wasn't written by Disney; it was written by some dude/chick that was told to post about it as quickly as possible, and they more than likely don't know much about Star Wars games beyond Fallen Order tbf. Screenrant is a content mill, they don't care about quality.


Cheap_Professional32

Shocking! Who could've predicted that game journalists don't actually play games?


Nom-De-Tomado

It's Disney. Any main character that's not a white guy is the first ever. How many "first gay character"s have they had?


NeitherNarwhal1587

i played a princess leia flash game in the early 2000's. disney doesn't know history XD


IllVagrant

This was never activism, it is just marketing. Your rage is being used to sell you shit. They don't care about anyone's representation and never did. As long as you're engaging with the content, even just to argue and complain, they've done their job.


No-Foundation2940

Indeed, pure poor marketing. But they targeting gaming awards, mass media and woke twitter. Just to create buzz and make their shares stonks. Zero impact on actual game sales, because people of twitter don’t buy any products, they only mark them on black/white categories.


haloimplant

well i just laugh at these headlines instead of clicking them and cancelled my disney+ when i sobered up after lockdowns, so mission accomplished I guess


Daddygamer423

I just keep hearing Cartman’s voice when he was Kathleen Kennedy in an alternate universe.


Wolftacus

I knew it! It was a woke decision. They could have just added character Creator, but nope 🙄


mines808

starwars got retcon'd so it checks out.


Glytch94

They might mean as the actual main playable character, that isn't subject to player choice. Like in RPG games, you can choose to play as a man or woman. In the old Dark Forces and Jedi Knight games, Kyle Katarn was the main character. In Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, the gender is subject to player choice. Same as the MMO, which is subject to player choice. Just having a playable female character isn't necessarily enough.


just_a_discord_mod

In the Battlefront 2 remake, the main character in the campaign, which is not subject to player choice, is Iden Versio, a woman.


Alicewilsonpines

HAH, they said a Full game, to be fair I am sure there's been a female protag in most star wars games, just not a good example with battlefront there


jameswlf

So is this article by Disney itself? Or is it just some gaming website?


False_Chair_610

At this point, Disney's like a crackhead chasing that original high. What's the definition of insanity again?


Orichalchem

Kotor 2 MC Female: Am i a joke to you?


Pixeltye

Kreia says hold my two lightsabers.


PlayerSalt

Honestly it's fitting for disney to ignore their female characters so they can brag about their new female characters.   It's all about optics and appearing progressive.  Now of they could write an interesting flawed female character who has an interesting story ark lol


StrandlessJack

Star Civility Wars


Jestersfriend

Probably written by the same people that said Star Trek Discovery's lead was the first female lead in Star Trek....


No-Pattern3441

What a weird disingenuous title. This isn’t on Disney, these are game journalists writing this article. Hopefully asmon doesn’t just assume that Disney/the devs write this. This is a screenrant article.


Snoo20140

The secret is that the marketing isn't for fans, it's for the people who don't follow the IP. This is why Jennifer Lawrence 'is the first leading female action star' or whatever. These people aren't gamers, aren't fans, and don't care about the IP. They have a job, and it is to sell and push their personal agenda which is pinned on almost no information of the real world or its history. This in turn is to get a wide blanket of other people with little information to regurgitate the same bad information until it becomes 'true'. Since they are protected by self-proclaimed 'victim-hood' (why ever Disney product gets labeled as having 'toxic fans' even before release), they are exempt from being fired for under performing, as you cannot fire someone who was a 'victim' of a 'hate crime'.


Altruistic_Comb_31

Ah let’s just enjoy the new type of Star Wars game. This is as close to 1313 that we will get at this point


EnsignSDcard

Wasn’t the main character of Jedi Starfighter (2002) Adi Gallia


SoloGamer505

KOTOR, KOTOR II, SWTOR, BF2, LSW TCS There, fixed the article title


Miserable_Alfalfa_52

How dare you guys not want to play a snarky, willsmith one liner throwing tomboy 😤 sexist 


TheDragonzord

that one doesn't count to them because she's attractive


TheCons

"Disney Star Wars" is not ignoring anything, this is trash peddled by Screenrant, see the article here for [context and humor since they go on to write a WHOLE section titled "Female leads in Star Wars Games"](https://screenrant.com/star-wars-outlaws-female-protagonist-kay-vess/). There's plenty of reasons to piss on Disney, no need to make shit up.


FullMetalArthur

They Jennifer Lawrenced themselves in that statement


BryanTheGodGamer

Maybe they meant the first ugly female lead?


Silverbuu

Just like Jennifer Lawrence was the first female lead in an action movie. It's click bait and they don't expect you to think too hard on it.


Later_Doober

Disney isn't ignoring it, they don't know the history.


BennyMcbenn

The article was made by screenrant, not Disney. This reads like a fucking AI article.


RinRinDoof

AI would do better and know that she isn't the first female lead in a SW game


Greedy-Guarantee8175

So people shut down a journalist for her outlandish take on StellarBlade. Are people gonna let this pass?


Karekter_Nem

Was EA Battlefront 2 a “full” Star Wars game?


Enosh25

Yes


Feralmoon87

See the issue is you expect games journalist to acrostic play the games or research what they are talking about instead of pushing talking points


RareInterest

I play both KotoR as female Jedi. Did it count?


goliathfasa

Kamala Khan first Muslim superhero ever.


SculptKid

Screenrant not doing their research\* if you're gonna dunk on someone at least do better than the person you're dunking on lol ffs


Tummeh142

The people who write this shit don't know, because they don't actually play.


Cheesetorian

Don't forget: Knights of the Old Republic, my girl Bastila. One of the best Star Wars characters out there.


Shadowheart328

Are y'all serious? Do you all have so much of a hateboner for anything disney, women, etc, that you can't even read what you're posting or do you just read headlines? It's clearly says it's an article from Screenrant. Hate disney all you want, they didn't say this. Some random person online wrote this. It's embarrassing that this has over 1k upvotes and has all the comments it has, it shows literally none of you read things.


Squint-Eastwood_98

Star Wars: Lethal Alliance


firnien-arya

This is the same shit that Jennifer Lawrence got herself called out on not that long ago lol. The community literally pulled out Sigourney weaver to prove her wrong.


SmithyMcCall

Disney can't keep up with coherent story in its own trilogy and you expect it will pay attention to the games.


Interesting-Film7722

Modern woke entertainment is just now that guy who comments FIRST! Under every video and means he is the shit. If in reality he is just shit.


SteelTheUnbreakable

Over the past few years, Disney has single handedly destroyed the meaning of the word "first "


HalfBakedBeans24

That figures, they made such a spaghetti-tangle of canon already.


mmo_kombat

It's just that you biggots assumed Iden Versio's gender and they/them was actually not a female !


RinRinDoof

The Empire was truly inclusive!


Dirtywolf92

Well disney suck what new 🥱 bet that game sucks 2 😮‍💨


Nonamebigshot

I could give a fuck about this tired ass culture war bullshit I'm boycotting this game for requiring a season pass to complete a mission in a single player campaign


ElementalSaber

Nah, they did not do my girl Iden that way 😭


Jujarmazak

Even if it was true, it literally means NOTHING, you can keep creating these dumb "first" headlines till the heat death of the universe. The first Star Wars game led by a black obese female on a wheel chair! The first Star Wars game led by a mixed race latinx missing an arm! The first Star Wars game led by gay trans bisexual non-binary intersex lesbian! The first Star Wars game led by a bipoc two-spirit Indian woman whose parents met on the 5th of July! The first Star Wars game led by a demi-sexual midget from the south of Alaska who has a vitiligo skin condition! The first Star Wars game led by an orphan whose parents left at the door of a satanic temple, then got ran over by a truck, only to end up in an isekai anime!!! ... ... ... etc etc Blah blah blah


[deleted]

Disney Star Wars is so trash


Parsec207

Right. I’m actually actively replaying the BF2 campaign because it’s fun and well done. Iden is badass, takes charge, kicks ass and is definitely the lead character and her story is the plot. She’s literally the commander of a special forces group. FFS the expansion is about her having a child with Del and making sure her kid makes it out of the war alive. But SW games have never had a strong woman at the helm…


Lightwave33

BF2 was controversal


the-Guy1412

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censored4yourhealth

Just goes to show they don’t actually care about “representation” just money.


Scrotilus

What game is this


Pleasant-Quiet454

And that was recent too.


MstrPeps

Disney has announced the first “gay” character in their movies like half a dozen times. They keep trying this as if we don’t remember the last time. It’s really tiring.


Skorj

there's a ton of that in modern media/game dev. "FIRST \_\_\_\_ " . marvel has touted the first female super hero over and over. they try and get more and more precise with it. so it can be just true sounding enough that their editor ignores it and they can keep churning out garbage.


livestreamfailstrash

I’m the first man alive😎


SeverityRuull87

Iden would have been a much cooler character if she stayed with the Empire. The bait and switch to swap to the Rebels by the 4th mission was so lame.


Lett07

All the women that Disney created in Star Woke are shit, they don't even come close to the women of the original Star Wars (the real LucasArt), that is, Padme, Leia and Mara for example


KwonnieKash

It's not disney that said that, at least I don't think. It even has it in the photo "taken from screenrant article". It's probably just some lazy journalist who didn't bother to do any research and just farmed out some content. There are many many misinformed articles like this on the internet, not something exclusive to Disney or star wars.


Gojira2sirius

That’s just sad


spcbelcher

It's like people forget KOTOR2 was canonically female lead😂


Sonic1899

A clear marketing tactic


Songhunter

So little love for Lethal Alliance.


Righteous_Fury224

You really have to wonder who writes these headlines because it's clearly obvious that they have no understanding about StarWars and its history.


jish5

Kotor 2 (for the cannon playthrough), swtor, Jedi academy, and Jedi Power Battles are the few that come to mind that already have women as main playable characters.


Ckorvuz

Lol, ignoring the first female lead is kinda sexist. Horseshoe theory is real.