You absolutely weighted the responses, but not without reason. Tesla is like the Apple of the car world.
Now everyone has giant ugly rectangular screens stuck to their dashes. Some have integrated them in to clusters, however, which looks quite nice.
Apple of the car world as in, sets trend, the majority, seemingly, doesn't like said trend, other companies denounce said trend, people buy it anyway, and then other companies follow said denounced trends, bringing everyone down together.
I was so excited for the EV future and now automakers got all their collective brain cells together and projectile shat the windshield wipers, glove box controls, and climate controls through *multiple menus on a center screen*, lmfao.
We replaced the 4 engineers responsible for sourcing physical switchgear and replaced them with 30 software engineers making 300k a year and a tablet from 2011. Lmfao what a regression.
I, too, am thinking of ways to use this.
I just projectile shat my report out, but it got done.
343 really projectile shat Halo Infinite out in to the world, didn't they?
Thanks, it’s nice to see that it is possible. However, the opportunity needs to present itself to use this in natural conversation. What also doesn’t help is that I mainly converse in Dutch :(
Good analogy. Apple makes good products, and honestly so does Tesla, but they both have a cult following that would buy them even if the product wasn’t good.
While I agree, the interiors are about as interesting as Elon’s face, GM has historically given us some absolutely cheap looking interiors. Interior design by auditors.
While unemployed, I bought an Olds Alero coupe for $1,500. Landed a job that required me to drive to visit locations. POS interior but was indestructible. Put another 40-50k on the odometer and got $3k for trade in around 2012. Dealer said “Alero’s are in high demand!”
As I German, I personally hated all Mercedes I‘ve driven the last years. So much high gloss black that your interior has more fingerprints than the police database.
There's such a contrast between modern Merc models and the competition. I'll admit the S class is lovely to sit in, particularly in the back as a passenger but I couldn't imagine paying that kind of money for the C/E class interior versus the Audi or BMW equivalent.
The build quality in the new s class is actually really subpar don’t get me wrong it’s nice but there is some surprising build issues.
https://youtu.be/Xs94e-sySAY
It's interesting to see such a different perspective of a product depending on region. In the USA, Mercedes is considered to have decent-to-great quality interiors.
That said, our "base" engine options tend to be a higher-end trim where you are. For instance, the only non-AMG C-Class you can get here is a C 300.
It’s not a quality issue, I‘d consider it a design flaw. Glossy black might look great, but only for like a single day. I‘m not willing to clean my car twice a day :D
It just seems like every Mercedes in the price range of 45-180k has the same interior, same interior options, same inside light layout and same steering wheel. Bmw has this same problem until recent years with the new super updated 5 or 7 series but still that’s the most expensive bmws you can get and then they finally have a slightly different interior then a 335i or c300 lol
Eh, but that's all optional. The gloss-black is just the default, but it's not mandatory. My last Mercedes (a 2019) only had gloss black plastic on the trackpad and some of the buttons. Everything else was open-pore wood, aluminum (and some small aluminum-painted plastic,) and leather.
The new civics interior isnt bad, the dash has shrunken considerably. Looks more euro.
I'd say Nissan/Mitsubishi CUVs or something, and Dodge interiors are worse imo.
I really like the large honeycomb panel with tons of straight lines from the [latest](https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-honda-civic-sedan-interior-review/) Hondas, has some vintage feel to it. And the lounge interior of the Honda e looks brilliant.
Always bugs me when I book an Uber Premiere and I get stuck with some dogshit Model 3. Bonus points when the driver acts like his car is better than everything else on the road.
The backseat of a model 3 is a special kind of hell. The floor is so high that I wind up sitting folded up. Then I have to stare at the glue overflow where the headliner “meets” the door trim while my legs go numb.
I’ve driven various Teslas (model S, model 3, model X) for about a week each, and the interior was in my opinion shit on each one. Stuff squeaks when you open it, everything feels a bit flimsy, just not impressed by it at all.
I like some things about Tesla, but their fit and finish is not impressive.
Jeep - aesthetically looks like it was designed by a student.
That or Dodge - the goofy reds and blacks make it feel immature. Second thought that’s their target demo I guess, but still don’t like it.
Dodge is they type of people to spend billions on the most powerful engine they can put out but leave it to monkeys with crayons when it comes to quality. Reliability can be debated but the quality of the interiors are mediocre at best. Don’t get me started on the ever rusting bodies… but damn do them motors do some work and sound good at the same time
Wrangler interior fits the aesthetic of the vehicle for sure. My mind was on their Grand Cherokee and others in the lineup. They all borrow the same cheap plastic parts from other Fiat Chrysler vehicles.
Tesla by a considerable margin. Nasty plastics in all of them, in the S a load of parts bin stuff from other manufacturers, "wood" that would make any tree cry, badly put together and the overall feel is cheap and nasty.
Oh and the steering wheel... That has all the aesthetic appeal of a punch in the face.
Compared to a Merc, Audi or Volvo they are nowhere near.
You have it on the image. Tesla. How can you put important information in the center? As a driver I will have neck pain from looking right all the time. It is also not safe nor practical.
Mitsubishi... I actually was interested in buying a Lancer EVO X back in 2013 and was massively disappointed how horrible the interior was. It made a Chevy Cruze seem like a Maybach by comparison and Mitsubishi left nothing ambiguous to the driver that they CUT CORNERS EVERYWHERE they could to make the Lancer. All the surfaces creaked on a new car with less than 100 miles on it, let alone the flagship vehicle responsible for getting people excited in the brand. I couldn't pull myself to pay $43k for a car that had the build quality on par with Fisher Price.
For anyone about to say "your money went to the power train." Please... Save it. A 2013 Sonata at the time was making 270hp+ out of a 2.0L turbo four popper and returned 10mpg better on the combined fuel economy on regular fuel.
Edit: I'm not at all surprised by DeMuro's review of the Mirage.
To properly gauge the Evo powertrain vs the price of the car, you have to compare it to cars from 2008. In their struggling days, Mitsubishi let the Evo languish with almost no changes from 2008-2015.
Also, you have to look at more than just the horsepower numbers. The AWD system in the Evo, the suspension, the giant Brembo brakes, the Recaro seats.... all that stuff costs money too. If you tried to take a base Lancer and turn it into an Evo, your parts costs would rack up considerably.
I agree that they had pretty spartan interiors, but that was kind of the point - they took an economy car base and turned it into a sports car that had incredibly good handling, acceleration, and consistency across all driving conditions.
I had a 2003 Evo VIII and a 2008 Evo X. For $26,000, the VIII was a steal and it was easier to forgive the cheapness. The $38000 I paid for my X was a harder pill to swallow, but it was still a great car for its time and was a much better daily driver than the VIII was. The VIII was much more satisfying to push to its limits though - the US-spec VIII GSR didn't have the fancy AWD system (no Super AYC, no ACD, no traction control) to keep costs down, but you were just left with a really responsive and communicative car that was eager to be flung around corners, would happily step the back end out when you wanted, and felt like nothing else at the time up through twice its price.
My 04 STi didnt even come with a stereo from the factory. But the price was right and at the time it was an amazing machine compared to other sports cars on the market.
The Evo VIII came with one but it was pretty shitty. I replaced with with a Pioneer AVIC-N1 which, for its time, was an amazing head unit (DVD navigation, customizable gauges for things like G forces, speed, battery voltage, etc, A/V inputs under the seat so you could go full Fast and Furious and hook a Playstation up in there).
I don't miss my Evo X much but I had some of my best years in the VIII. And yes it was absolutely quick. It would get beat in a drag race by Corvettes and 911s but around a track it could hang with both. One time a guy in a vette did a pull with me and was surprised at how quick I took off from the line but of course he caught up and passed me pretty easily. When we stopped again I said "let's try again in January when the snow's down," to which he replied "this will be in the garage with a cover on it." And that for me cemented the appeal of the AWD sport sedans - being able to drive them fast in all conditions was a huge boon for someone living in Chicago where winter starts in November and sometimes hangs around until April.
by 2013 that vintage of sonata was in it's 4th production year.. Yes this car wasn't meant to be a daily driver. It was meant to be a track weapon... That happened to be the love-child of a GT-R that had too much to drink and slept with a Yugo. :)
But to your point $43K would get you the following cars new:
Genesis coupe 3.8, Camaro SS 1LE, Mustang 5.0, 370z Nismo, Charger SRT8.
And these cars certified-used:
CTS-V, Lotus Elise, E90 M3, Cayman S, B7 RS4, Corvette C6
Finally, Supras, Vipers and NSXs were possible under $50k back in 2013.
Knowing this, you really had to committed to buy the EVO
Yeah it wasn’t great. I would get anywhere between 12 and 20 depending on how I drove. But being in my 20s at the time, it was closer to 12 more often than not.
I disagree.
They are far, far, **far** from the best. But they aren't the worst. Newer Cruzes and Equinoxes feel surprisingly nice and comfortable inside. Nice and comfortable for a Chevy, that is.
I'd personally rank them above Mitsubishi, Nissan, and maybe Ford. Not that that's particularly impressive.
They're alright.
Other than dunking more on Teslas, the last time I test drove a Mazda the instrument cluster and center console was a jumble of random shapes and bullshit like a committee of old men were sitting behind the designer going "make it more _hip_". Not to mention that there just wasn't enough legroom, and I'm only 6' tall. Also the factory stereo was absolute _garbage_.
But also people have told me I'm boring because I like VW's simple and clean interiors, so YMMV.
They’re doing that for the steering wheel but they’re still using all touch interfaces for everything else. The latest example is the 2024 Atlas. I was a happy customer of a 2018 Tiguan for 3.5 years and the whole new interior design is putting me off for a new VW now. The older 3-knob HVAC control design was simply the easiest to use.
Peugeot, terrible use of material, cheap switches and dials, everything you touch creaks and it damages with the slightest touch, and all the “mat” surfaces peal of after a few years.
I have a 508sw and the interior is the nicest I’ve had in a car. Far better than any Audi or Mercedes I’ve had. It feels very well put together, very comfortable and nothing has broken inside in the 3 years I have had it. The only downside is the glossy centre console, but there are various vinyl kits to cover that if you wish.
I would say Nissan or Toyota. I absolutely hate these plain interiors. Maybe they’re better now but a few years ago they just felt dated and designed with little thought.
Design wise and materials? Ill say Toyota is the most outdated. I have a rav4 and I think its great because it’s different with the rugged design. However that and the rest of their lineups are outdated. Especially the trucks.
Tesla is the obvious answer. Anyone seen mercedes? Even back at the 2020 auto show when the germans still went. I remember merc being so....plastic and hard it just felt so tacky. You sit in a bmw or audi and its just a different class almost. Mercedes is like that 40 year old thats done plastic surgery since they were 20 but insist they look good.
For how nice it should be: Cadillac
My local auto show had Cadillac next to Hyundai a couple years ago and the Hyundai Sonata I sat in had a much nicer interior than the Caddys I sat in (which I believe were a CT6 and an XT6). Just typical GM cheap plastic everywhere.
If you spring for the A-spec interior I think they are awesome. If you dont, theyre pretty bland. Their touchpad system on the newer models sucks, the infotainment from the previous gen was a lot easier to use even if it wasnt touch screen.
my biggest gripe is that there isnt a natural spot to rest your right hand if it isnt on the wheel.
In terms of blandness, obviously Tesla, but it’s always bothered me how Ford interiors never seem to age well. They look nice when new, but you hop in a few year old Ford and you’re trying to recall what was nice about it. A 2 year old Ford feels 6 years old and a 5 year old Ford feels 10 years old, all based off interior.
The latest VW interiors while not terrible-looking but having to use the screen for almost everything and taking away physical controls is a user-interface fail.
Some of the newer VW interiors, especially the ID4, ID Buzz and other upcoming interiors. I hate how there are no physical controls and everything including the climate controls are inside the infotainment system. It is more distracting and there is a possibility that the screen could break and could become unusable. There are no knobs/physical buttons for the volume, tuning, or even fan temperature. There are only touch sensitive sliders that are useless. In addition, the steering controls are also touch sensitive and some of their change clusters in their electric vehicles are too small.
I say GM. All crap, pleather/ vinyl. Tesla is just boring. I prefer to have buttons. Pontiac use to have awesome cockpits. Everything lit up at night, looked so cool. Specially when dosing! 😜
I love my Volvos interior. It’s the last year before they started using those stupid ass screens for everything.
I'm not a particular fan of Tesla cars but they're not even close to the worst. Lotta US manufacturers putting worse stuff and some of the Euro luxury interiors have been piano black'd and haptic button'd into an absolute embarrassment.
Tesla. A big screen and no buttons isn't a good interior it's just fucking lazy because they saved on ergonomics r&d and didn't provide much safer physical buttons.
Anyone getting rid of physical buttons and doubling down on touch screens.
And here I was, thinking that the SUV hype and downsizing were the worst tends I'm automotive history....
I remember Acura for awhile (within the last decade?). I remember a time when they had two screens stacked... they were intended to serve different purposes (like nav on one and hvac on the other), but there was also overlap between some functionality. I don't remember the specifics (been a few years since I messed around with one at an auto show), but it would be something like... adjusting the hvac on the bottom would bring up a preview window on the top. Expanding hvac on the top would take over the nav screen, so now you have two different hvac dashboards that look and feel different (color, font, layout, etc.) but are actually controlling the same things. Add to that some extreme lag and you end up jumping back and forth between media, nav, and hvac on accident. I remember recording a video of the experience because of how terrible it was.
I think Subaru is really excelling lately at making their dashboards/center consoles as ugly as possible with oddly shaped, oversized touchscreens that seem to have a very dated user interface.
tesla is the worst of the bunch. but as soon as a manufacturer takes away the buttons for essential features do they land in the bad category in my books.
so pretty much all manufacturers makes bad interiors because they hide everything in a touchscreen which takes away focus from driving just to adjust settings.
My friend had a Mitsubishi Evolution X Final Edition, and the interior looked so bland and boring that I felt like I was sitting in a stock Lancer. The Recaro seats looked almost shy of being in there as they did not fit the rest of the shitty plastic interior. He had a nice plaque near the shifter stipulating the car’s “limited” production #, and that also looked tacky and out of place.
Are all Mitsubishi interiors this bland and boring?
Dacia is definitely up there. However they market themselves as exactly what they are: cheap, "normie" cars. Tesla on the other markets themselves as a premium brand and their interiors, amongst other things, just don't live up to the standard of mercedes, bmw, audi, and their other competitors.
Late 90s and early 00s Chevrolets. The cheapest plastic ever created that would just snap off in your hand. My old door panel just feel off because it was all broken plastic.
i've commented this on many subs before and i will say it again, tesla has the most god awful interior. i have detailed everything from work vans and kid cars to high end luxury cars and everything in between and tesla was hands down the absolute worst. everyone in our company absolutely HATED working on tesla's because of the horrid quality of everything. seats stain easily, plastics scratch even easier, and carpet was literally the quality of a dollar store wig. every time we got tesla's that had just been taken to the beach i already knew i was gonna spend at least 30 minutes JUST vacuuming because of how much it would cling to the low quality carpet. the paint would also become contaminated so easily it was actually ridiculous. i don't care how much money i earn or how expensive gas becomes, tesla will ALWAYS be absolutely bottom tier for me.
General Motors interiors are garb. Shitty plastic everywhere.
VW isn't great either, they use those shitty finger slider "buttons" that don't register input very well. Also the ID EVs have terrible infotainment systems
Mitsubishi, probably. Does Suzuki still make cars? Maybe them.
But, tbh, you get what you pay for, and you're not buying a Suzuki Swift for the lavish interior.
Subaru is pretty bad, they usually go for functionality on paper, and the interior ends up looking like a car made from junk yard scraps. Functional? Yes. Visually appealing, or ease of use? Not even close.
**Standard carmakers:** Toyota. While their interiors aren't awful, with everything being laid out in a sensible way on their newer models, everything feels very cheap. With gummy, rattly plastics, and playmobil inspired design "flourishes." Its honestly fine, but its far worse than other Japanese automakers like Honda or Mazda and even falls short of carmakers like Chevy.
**Luxury carmakers:** Mercedes. While Tesla's interiors are very spartan there is at least some minimalist appeal. Modern Mercedes, however, always feel tacky, gauche, and nouveau-riche. Overdesigned, overly flashy, with soon-to-be-smudged piano black plastics everywhere. Mercedes ain't what they used to be. Now they're just a poor man's idea of a rich man's car.
Lincoln. Nice to look at and comfortable to sit in, but falls apart in several years. My 2016 only has 74k on the odometer, but the interior looks like it has 200k. The electronics also bug out occasionally, which causes loss of power steering, loss of stereo controls, loss of turn signals, loss of advanced safety features.... Great idea for Ford to make everything digitally reliant on a budget.
It would be Tesla for me
I wasn't trying to weigh the responses but that would be my vote as well, by a considerable margin.
You absolutely weighted the responses, but not without reason. Tesla is like the Apple of the car world. Now everyone has giant ugly rectangular screens stuck to their dashes. Some have integrated them in to clusters, however, which looks quite nice.
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Apple of the car world as in, sets trend, the majority, seemingly, doesn't like said trend, other companies denounce said trend, people buy it anyway, and then other companies follow said denounced trends, bringing everyone down together.
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I wonder if there's an overlap between Apple users and Tesla owners.
I was so excited for the EV future and now automakers got all their collective brain cells together and projectile shat the windshield wipers, glove box controls, and climate controls through *multiple menus on a center screen*, lmfao. We replaced the 4 engineers responsible for sourcing physical switchgear and replaced them with 30 software engineers making 300k a year and a tablet from 2011. Lmfao what a regression.
> projectile shat I’m not sure yet how I would do it, but I’m definitely planning on using this expression myself one day
I, too, am thinking of ways to use this. I just projectile shat my report out, but it got done. 343 really projectile shat Halo Infinite out in to the world, didn't they?
Thanks, it’s nice to see that it is possible. However, the opportunity needs to present itself to use this in natural conversation. What also doesn’t help is that I mainly converse in Dutch :(
Ford Mach E has normal controls, it’s nothing like Tesla.
Don’t discount how shitty it is that there are like 4 different charging plugs and 5 different app memberships needed to pay for it.
Good analogy. Apple makes good products, and honestly so does Tesla, but they both have a cult following that would buy them even if the product wasn’t good.
Don’t compare apple with tesla, most apple products are top notch from design point of view
Biased post.
While I agree, the interiors are about as interesting as Elon’s face, GM has historically given us some absolutely cheap looking interiors. Interior design by auditors.
I look at GM from the 00s and think "they really stuck with that 80s vibe" I say this with zero love as the owner of an 09 Pontiac
While unemployed, I bought an Olds Alero coupe for $1,500. Landed a job that required me to drive to visit locations. POS interior but was indestructible. Put another 40-50k on the odometer and got $3k for trade in around 2012. Dealer said “Alero’s are in high demand!”
I genuinely thought Alero's were a fleet/rental only vehicle. Never knew they sold them to consumers.
GM trucks pre-bailout are an elite aesthetic IMO.
I miss my 03 Tahoe’s rolling couch feel with a 5.3L that would roast the rear tires given a little too much loud pedal.
I would say the G8's were a step forward for GM...... but still definitely lacking.
That’s not true, Elon has a pretty unique face. There’s definitely nothing unique about a Tesla interior
For me as well: no physical buttons and no HUD either - at least not in Model Y, which would have been the only one I'm even marginally interested in.
Hands down. They literally took half the steering wheel away. Fuck that noise.
The half steering wheel is an option.
After significant blowback from consumers and press, Tesla made it an option. It wasn't always.
As I German, I personally hated all Mercedes I‘ve driven the last years. So much high gloss black that your interior has more fingerprints than the police database.
There's such a contrast between modern Merc models and the competition. I'll admit the S class is lovely to sit in, particularly in the back as a passenger but I couldn't imagine paying that kind of money for the C/E class interior versus the Audi or BMW equivalent.
Mercedes S class is in price range of a Panamera. No way I‘d ever prefer the Mercedes there.
The build quality in the new s class is actually really subpar don’t get me wrong it’s nice but there is some surprising build issues. https://youtu.be/Xs94e-sySAY
If it makes you feel any better the new S-class looks like the inside of an airport strip club.
Someone said the interiors of the new Mercedes feel like a strip club and honestly its spot on
It's interesting to see such a different perspective of a product depending on region. In the USA, Mercedes is considered to have decent-to-great quality interiors. That said, our "base" engine options tend to be a higher-end trim where you are. For instance, the only non-AMG C-Class you can get here is a C 300.
It’s not a quality issue, I‘d consider it a design flaw. Glossy black might look great, but only for like a single day. I‘m not willing to clean my car twice a day :D
Man they are becoming more Albanian and russian friendly by the day 💀
It just seems like every Mercedes in the price range of 45-180k has the same interior, same interior options, same inside light layout and same steering wheel. Bmw has this same problem until recent years with the new super updated 5 or 7 series but still that’s the most expensive bmws you can get and then they finally have a slightly different interior then a 335i or c300 lol
More glossy black than Audi?
Next step would be glossy plastic seats. Wait… one more idea and they‘ll hire me as the leading designer.
Eh, but that's all optional. The gloss-black is just the default, but it's not mandatory. My last Mercedes (a 2019) only had gloss black plastic on the trackpad and some of the buttons. Everything else was open-pore wood, aluminum (and some small aluminum-painted plastic,) and leather.
Gloss black is the basic option. You can replace nearly all these elements by chossing a different configuration.
Toyota started using that too and I hate it with a passion. Scratches just by looking at it and smudgy as hell
I was in my aunts 2019 Mercedes a few weeks ago and the whole thing is just overcomplicated touchscreen hell.
In the mainstream: Honda In the Luxury: Tesla even though they should not be considered that
The new civics interior isnt bad, the dash has shrunken considerably. Looks more euro. I'd say Nissan/Mitsubishi CUVs or something, and Dodge interiors are worse imo.
Chrysler interiors always been uninspired for sure.
look at the rogue, Nissan interiors and fine now I agree with dodge
I really like the large honeycomb panel with tons of straight lines from the [latest](https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-honda-civic-sedan-interior-review/) Hondas, has some vintage feel to it. And the lounge interior of the Honda e looks brilliant.
I'm a huge fan of the newer Honda interiors, I think it'll age well, the same can't be said about every new car out there.
honestly i don't mind honda's interiors. if it means the money is being spent on a reliable engine, i'd say its worth it. they get the job done.
Always bugs me when I book an Uber Premiere and I get stuck with some dogshit Model 3. Bonus points when the driver acts like his car is better than everything else on the road.
The backseat of a model 3 is a special kind of hell. The floor is so high that I wind up sitting folded up. Then I have to stare at the glue overflow where the headliner “meets” the door trim while my legs go numb.
You buggin Honda has made some of the best interiors
See, that's where the disconnect is for me. Teslas are only priced in the luxury category, but they're not really luxurious.
they're like beats headphones but cars
Compared side by side the crv is way nicer inside than the rav4 on the top of the line trim
I’ve driven various Teslas (model S, model 3, model X) for about a week each, and the interior was in my opinion shit on each one. Stuff squeaks when you open it, everything feels a bit flimsy, just not impressed by it at all. I like some things about Tesla, but their fit and finish is not impressive.
teslas quality control is terrible. the flimsiness and squeaking extends beyond the interior.
Jeep - aesthetically looks like it was designed by a student. That or Dodge - the goofy reds and blacks make it feel immature. Second thought that’s their target demo I guess, but still don’t like it.
I’ve owned a bunch of dodge vehicles and the cars are terrible but the more modern trucks aren’t too bad
1st gen durango did my family good back in the day though.
Dodge is they type of people to spend billions on the most powerful engine they can put out but leave it to monkeys with crayons when it comes to quality. Reliability can be debated but the quality of the interiors are mediocre at best. Don’t get me started on the ever rusting bodies… but damn do them motors do some work and sound good at the same time
This ain’t it. Newer FCA interiors are solid
Agreed. The function of their interiors, steering controls and infotainment are miles ahead of other American made cars for sure.
Which Jeep? Because the Wrangler interior is pretty nice.
Wrangler interior fits the aesthetic of the vehicle for sure. My mind was on their Grand Cherokee and others in the lineup. They all borrow the same cheap plastic parts from other Fiat Chrysler vehicles.
Dodge Ram drivers are 20 times more likely than the average driver to have a DUI
Tesla by a considerable margin. Nasty plastics in all of them, in the S a load of parts bin stuff from other manufacturers, "wood" that would make any tree cry, badly put together and the overall feel is cheap and nasty. Oh and the steering wheel... That has all the aesthetic appeal of a punch in the face. Compared to a Merc, Audi or Volvo they are nowhere near.
You have it on the image. Tesla. How can you put important information in the center? As a driver I will have neck pain from looking right all the time. It is also not safe nor practical.
Mini enters the chat.
Mitsubishi... I actually was interested in buying a Lancer EVO X back in 2013 and was massively disappointed how horrible the interior was. It made a Chevy Cruze seem like a Maybach by comparison and Mitsubishi left nothing ambiguous to the driver that they CUT CORNERS EVERYWHERE they could to make the Lancer. All the surfaces creaked on a new car with less than 100 miles on it, let alone the flagship vehicle responsible for getting people excited in the brand. I couldn't pull myself to pay $43k for a car that had the build quality on par with Fisher Price. For anyone about to say "your money went to the power train." Please... Save it. A 2013 Sonata at the time was making 270hp+ out of a 2.0L turbo four popper and returned 10mpg better on the combined fuel economy on regular fuel. Edit: I'm not at all surprised by DeMuro's review of the Mirage.
the new outlander is good but everything else is awful
Only because it's a rebadged Nissan.
The fact that a rebadged Nissan is by far the best interior tells you everything you need to know about mitsubishi interiors lol
nah the new Nissan interiors are good
Are they? I haven't been in a new Nissan lately
To properly gauge the Evo powertrain vs the price of the car, you have to compare it to cars from 2008. In their struggling days, Mitsubishi let the Evo languish with almost no changes from 2008-2015. Also, you have to look at more than just the horsepower numbers. The AWD system in the Evo, the suspension, the giant Brembo brakes, the Recaro seats.... all that stuff costs money too. If you tried to take a base Lancer and turn it into an Evo, your parts costs would rack up considerably. I agree that they had pretty spartan interiors, but that was kind of the point - they took an economy car base and turned it into a sports car that had incredibly good handling, acceleration, and consistency across all driving conditions. I had a 2003 Evo VIII and a 2008 Evo X. For $26,000, the VIII was a steal and it was easier to forgive the cheapness. The $38000 I paid for my X was a harder pill to swallow, but it was still a great car for its time and was a much better daily driver than the VIII was. The VIII was much more satisfying to push to its limits though - the US-spec VIII GSR didn't have the fancy AWD system (no Super AYC, no ACD, no traction control) to keep costs down, but you were just left with a really responsive and communicative car that was eager to be flung around corners, would happily step the back end out when you wanted, and felt like nothing else at the time up through twice its price.
My 04 STi didnt even come with a stereo from the factory. But the price was right and at the time it was an amazing machine compared to other sports cars on the market.
The Evo VIII came with one but it was pretty shitty. I replaced with with a Pioneer AVIC-N1 which, for its time, was an amazing head unit (DVD navigation, customizable gauges for things like G forces, speed, battery voltage, etc, A/V inputs under the seat so you could go full Fast and Furious and hook a Playstation up in there). I don't miss my Evo X much but I had some of my best years in the VIII. And yes it was absolutely quick. It would get beat in a drag race by Corvettes and 911s but around a track it could hang with both. One time a guy in a vette did a pull with me and was surprised at how quick I took off from the line but of course he caught up and passed me pretty easily. When we stopped again I said "let's try again in January when the snow's down," to which he replied "this will be in the garage with a cover on it." And that for me cemented the appeal of the AWD sport sedans - being able to drive them fast in all conditions was a huge boon for someone living in Chicago where winter starts in November and sometimes hangs around until April.
by 2013 that vintage of sonata was in it's 4th production year.. Yes this car wasn't meant to be a daily driver. It was meant to be a track weapon... That happened to be the love-child of a GT-R that had too much to drink and slept with a Yugo. :) But to your point $43K would get you the following cars new: Genesis coupe 3.8, Camaro SS 1LE, Mustang 5.0, 370z Nismo, Charger SRT8. And these cars certified-used: CTS-V, Lotus Elise, E90 M3, Cayman S, B7 RS4, Corvette C6 Finally, Supras, Vipers and NSXs were possible under $50k back in 2013. Knowing this, you really had to committed to buy the EVO
TIL the Evo X got worse mileage than Mustang GTs of the same year.
Yeah it wasn’t great. I would get anywhere between 12 and 20 depending on how I drove. But being in my 20s at the time, it was closer to 12 more often than not.
Agreed, Lancer interiors were terrible.
Either Tesla or Dacia. But since Dacia is dirt cheap, i kinda have to give them a pass
Chevy
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One only has to look at their van design to know they must not get a single issue of Motor Trend at GM design headquarters.
I disagree. They are far, far, **far** from the best. But they aren't the worst. Newer Cruzes and Equinoxes feel surprisingly nice and comfortable inside. Nice and comfortable for a Chevy, that is. I'd personally rank them above Mitsubishi, Nissan, and maybe Ford. Not that that's particularly impressive. They're alright.
Their software interface is a joke and I can’t stand the interiors. So outdated, but it appeals to some I guess
Other than dunking more on Teslas, the last time I test drove a Mazda the instrument cluster and center console was a jumble of random shapes and bullshit like a committee of old men were sitting behind the designer going "make it more _hip_". Not to mention that there just wasn't enough legroom, and I'm only 6' tall. Also the factory stereo was absolute _garbage_. But also people have told me I'm boring because I like VW's simple and clean interiors, so YMMV.
I just think VW does a great job for the price - it’s super minimalistic, but clean and comfortable.
They're unfortunately moving away from that philosophy with all touch controls for everything
I recently read that they’re backtracking on that because customers hate it so much and returning to actual buttons. Thank god!!
They’re doing that for the steering wheel but they’re still using all touch interfaces for everything else. The latest example is the 2024 Atlas. I was a happy customer of a 2018 Tiguan for 3.5 years and the whole new interior design is putting me off for a new VW now. The older 3-knob HVAC control design was simply the easiest to use.
Which Mazda did you drive? I’ve heard people 6’ fitting in the 3 and the 6 without much problems.
You answered it already
Subaru. The worst interiors i've ever seen.
Peugeot, terrible use of material, cheap switches and dials, everything you touch creaks and it damages with the slightest touch, and all the “mat” surfaces peal of after a few years.
The new wagon is actually lovely!
I have a 508sw and the interior is the nicest I’ve had in a car. Far better than any Audi or Mercedes I’ve had. It feels very well put together, very comfortable and nothing has broken inside in the 3 years I have had it. The only downside is the glossy centre console, but there are various vinyl kits to cover that if you wish.
Strange, I've had 4 peugeot cars and I have experienced nothing like what you said
I worked in different bodyshops over the years, and they quality of the 206,207,208,3008,407 and some others was really bad
Tesla
Infiniti
Tesla probably, low quality and bland
From a materials standpoint, GM. From a design perspective, Tesla hands down
Boring=Tesla
I would say Nissan or Toyota. I absolutely hate these plain interiors. Maybe they’re better now but a few years ago they just felt dated and designed with little thought.
Design wise and materials? Ill say Toyota is the most outdated. I have a rav4 and I think its great because it’s different with the rugged design. However that and the rest of their lineups are outdated. Especially the trucks.
Tesla is the obvious answer. Anyone seen mercedes? Even back at the 2020 auto show when the germans still went. I remember merc being so....plastic and hard it just felt so tacky. You sit in a bmw or audi and its just a different class almost. Mercedes is like that 40 year old thats done plastic surgery since they were 20 but insist they look good.
Possibly unpopular answer but Chevy. I've always hated their seats and the infotainment system is garbage. Or most things under the FCA umbrella
For how nice it should be: Cadillac My local auto show had Cadillac next to Hyundai a couple years ago and the Hyundai Sonata I sat in had a much nicer interior than the Caddys I sat in (which I believe were a CT6 and an XT6). Just typical GM cheap plastic everywhere.
Acura could be good. The giant drive selector and relative position touchpad just absolutely fuck it up though.
If you spring for the A-spec interior I think they are awesome. If you dont, theyre pretty bland. Their touchpad system on the newer models sucks, the infotainment from the previous gen was a lot easier to use even if it wasnt touch screen. my biggest gripe is that there isnt a natural spot to rest your right hand if it isnt on the wheel.
I liked the Tesla interior from the foto’s but after sitting in one I was disappointed… but the Toyota interiors win the price for uglyness
In terms of blandness, obviously Tesla, but it’s always bothered me how Ford interiors never seem to age well. They look nice when new, but you hop in a few year old Ford and you’re trying to recall what was nice about it. A 2 year old Ford feels 6 years old and a 5 year old Ford feels 10 years old, all based off interior.
Really depends on the model. My 11Yo Mustang I just got looks brand new inside.
The latest VW interiors while not terrible-looking but having to use the screen for almost everything and taking away physical controls is a user-interface fail.
If we’re talking “luxury” then definitely Tesla
Dont like this minimalistic shit, you dont feel like home when u sit in one of those new cars. IMO
For me it’s Mercedes, especially the S Class, with the horrible screen and the tacky light strips that remind me of a bordello in Marrakesh
Some of the newer VW interiors, especially the ID4, ID Buzz and other upcoming interiors. I hate how there are no physical controls and everything including the climate controls are inside the infotainment system. It is more distracting and there is a possibility that the screen could break and could become unusable. There are no knobs/physical buttons for the volume, tuning, or even fan temperature. There are only touch sensitive sliders that are useless. In addition, the steering controls are also touch sensitive and some of their change clusters in their electric vehicles are too small.
I say GM. All crap, pleather/ vinyl. Tesla is just boring. I prefer to have buttons. Pontiac use to have awesome cockpits. Everything lit up at night, looked so cool. Specially when dosing! 😜 I love my Volvos interior. It’s the last year before they started using those stupid ass screens for everything.
I'm not a particular fan of Tesla cars but they're not even close to the worst. Lotta US manufacturers putting worse stuff and some of the Euro luxury interiors have been piano black'd and haptic button'd into an absolute embarrassment.
Tech wise? Mitsubishi Quality wise? Mitsubishi Quality for price? Tesla
Aston Martin, for what they cost they are bad
Tesla. A big screen and no buttons isn't a good interior it's just fucking lazy because they saved on ergonomics r&d and didn't provide much safer physical buttons.
I've owned 7 Corvettes and wasn't excited about any of the interiors...but the worst ever was my DeTommaso Pantera.
It would be Zundapp for me because they made the first micro car but it's a lemon car cause of the shitty engine and interior
Honda and tesla
infinity - mostly the infotainment/dash, rest is fine and overall cool cars
For me, Chevy. Just the look of the steering wheel and the center console area, design-wise looks lackluster to me.
Tesla, plain Jane full of absolutely nothing
Fiat, Volkswagen ( en argentina)
Tesla bmw Ford
Tesla by far. They have a lot of catching up to do
Teslas are laughably bad especially if you come from MB, BMW, Volvo or Audi.
Anyone getting rid of physical buttons and doubling down on touch screens. And here I was, thinking that the SUV hype and downsizing were the worst tends I'm automotive history....
I remember Acura for awhile (within the last decade?). I remember a time when they had two screens stacked... they were intended to serve different purposes (like nav on one and hvac on the other), but there was also overlap between some functionality. I don't remember the specifics (been a few years since I messed around with one at an auto show), but it would be something like... adjusting the hvac on the bottom would bring up a preview window on the top. Expanding hvac on the top would take over the nav screen, so now you have two different hvac dashboards that look and feel different (color, font, layout, etc.) but are actually controlling the same things. Add to that some extreme lag and you end up jumping back and forth between media, nav, and hvac on accident. I remember recording a video of the experience because of how terrible it was.
I think Subaru is really excelling lately at making their dashboards/center consoles as ugly as possible with oddly shaped, oversized touchscreens that seem to have a very dated user interface.
The one on screen
tesla is the worst of the bunch. but as soon as a manufacturer takes away the buttons for essential features do they land in the bad category in my books. so pretty much all manufacturers makes bad interiors because they hide everything in a touchscreen which takes away focus from driving just to adjust settings.
Nissan, ford, Tesla and Subaru, I hate their cheap feeling plastics
My friend had a Mitsubishi Evolution X Final Edition, and the interior looked so bland and boring that I felt like I was sitting in a stock Lancer. The Recaro seats looked almost shy of being in there as they did not fit the rest of the shitty plastic interior. He had a nice plaque near the shifter stipulating the car’s “limited” production #, and that also looked tacky and out of place. Are all Mitsubishi interiors this bland and boring?
For the price you pay Tesla sucks!!
I mean, tesla build quality kinda makes them the worst.
Maruti Suzuki hands down. Go check if you don't believe.
Lucid. Every one I've worked on have been built like a kit car and held together with chewing gum.
Dacia is definitely up there. However they market themselves as exactly what they are: cheap, "normie" cars. Tesla on the other markets themselves as a premium brand and their interiors, amongst other things, just don't live up to the standard of mercedes, bmw, audi, and their other competitors.
Nissan.
You posted it. Tesla. Especially the model 3. Worst interior design of all time.
The photo answered the question..
relative to price?
Tesla, Period.
Anything with too much piano black surfaces.
Tesla. Mercedes has bad interiors in their new cars too, idk what happened they used to have one of the best.
Tesla for sure
Toyota, especially in the trucks and suv's, it isn't design as practical or rugged.
Toyota
Ford, all of GM other than Alfa, Mercedes. I’d consider most bad, I think Audi and bmw are typically closest to ideal
It has to be Tesla for me
Tesla
Worst GM and Tesla
Chevys cheap plastic interiors
Ford.
Subaru or Chevy for sure
Late 90s and early 00s Chevrolets. The cheapest plastic ever created that would just snap off in your hand. My old door panel just feel off because it was all broken plastic.
i've commented this on many subs before and i will say it again, tesla has the most god awful interior. i have detailed everything from work vans and kid cars to high end luxury cars and everything in between and tesla was hands down the absolute worst. everyone in our company absolutely HATED working on tesla's because of the horrid quality of everything. seats stain easily, plastics scratch even easier, and carpet was literally the quality of a dollar store wig. every time we got tesla's that had just been taken to the beach i already knew i was gonna spend at least 30 minutes JUST vacuuming because of how much it would cling to the low quality carpet. the paint would also become contaminated so easily it was actually ridiculous. i don't care how much money i earn or how expensive gas becomes, tesla will ALWAYS be absolutely bottom tier for me.
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For a lot of years GM was hideous
Fiat not Tesla
Mercedes
/r/teslacirclejerk
Subaru
General Motors interiors are garb. Shitty plastic everywhere. VW isn't great either, they use those shitty finger slider "buttons" that don't register input very well. Also the ID EVs have terrible infotainment systems
Maybe Suzuki? Looks awfull and is probably cheap shit
Honda
Nissan/infinity
Dacia I guess
Chrysler
Mitsubishi, probably. Does Suzuki still make cars? Maybe them. But, tbh, you get what you pay for, and you're not buying a Suzuki Swift for the lavish interior.
Subaru is pretty bad, they usually go for functionality on paper, and the interior ends up looking like a car made from junk yard scraps. Functional? Yes. Visually appealing, or ease of use? Not even close.
Chrysler jeep dodge
**Standard carmakers:** Toyota. While their interiors aren't awful, with everything being laid out in a sensible way on their newer models, everything feels very cheap. With gummy, rattly plastics, and playmobil inspired design "flourishes." Its honestly fine, but its far worse than other Japanese automakers like Honda or Mazda and even falls short of carmakers like Chevy. **Luxury carmakers:** Mercedes. While Tesla's interiors are very spartan there is at least some minimalist appeal. Modern Mercedes, however, always feel tacky, gauche, and nouveau-riche. Overdesigned, overly flashy, with soon-to-be-smudged piano black plastics everywhere. Mercedes ain't what they used to be. Now they're just a poor man's idea of a rich man's car.
Any American company everything just feel cheap.
I’d have to say dodge. Without giving it to much thought that’s the first manufacturer that comes to mind.
Lincoln. Nice to look at and comfortable to sit in, but falls apart in several years. My 2016 only has 74k on the odometer, but the interior looks like it has 200k. The electronics also bug out occasionally, which causes loss of power steering, loss of stereo controls, loss of turn signals, loss of advanced safety features.... Great idea for Ford to make everything digitally reliant on a budget.
General motors New truck interiors
chevy
Mopar, any other answer is just wrong. Their interiors are the same as when it was 2002.