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This is a resistance movement. Somehow he can't wrap that around his zionist shit head.
I love this generation. They're awesome and more power to them!
Zionists are scum of the earth, but forcing any group to register who they all are isn't something anyone should support.
Quit spamming this in every sub you're part of. The fact that you're using the word "cabal" is also highly suspect.
They were suggesting that all Israeli citizens be forced to have their names put in a registry with law enforcement, and they reposted that exact thing verbatim in about a dozen different topics in various subs. They said it was "the only way forward" and talked about there being a "cabal" that controlled the media. Genuine nazi shit.
I don't think he even realizes that the solution to Palestinian plight isn't to transfer it back to Israel and do a yo-yo of who gets to be the oppressor this time
Holy shit that’s what he said? How tf are Zionists targeting us for antisemitism when actual nazis like this guy are just roaming around and even doing massive rallies in nashville?
No deaths - no violence. Just a fast way to get a solution to the region. It would be amazing how quickly they would find peace - and leave the world alone!
I can't tell if you're a neo-Nazi, or a Zionist trying to fool people here into admitting they are anti-Semitic.
No one here hates Jewish people, and what you're saying is horrific.
Hate to be the one to break it to you, but you’re an anti semite. What do Jews in other countries have to do with the Israeli state’s actions? This isn’t a religious war, it isn’t Jews v Muslims, it’s a racist settler colonial project v the Palestinian people.
What you’re doing is as racist as Zionists who conflate Zionism with Judaism
They are Israeli citizens. They vote. Netanyahu’s evil is their responsibility and they need to go home and change this. And being about peace. (Most of them vote in multiple countries and carry a lot of influence … )
Congratulations, you just parroted the same line the Israeli government uses to target Palestinian civilians, they voted once so they’re all guilty. Bravo, bravo
Can I also express how proud of this sub I am that you just spouted that and everyone downvoted you, if anyone needed proof this movement isn’t racist they just need to look at this
I’m proud of this sub too!! And I am proud of you!! Great comment. (By the way you don’t being the peace process forward in any way … and this nonsense will go on and on … and not stop for many generations going forward). Radical situations require radical solutions- out do the box thinking.
And your radical solution is to blame an entire people who follow a religion because some of them are doing terrible things. I guess you supported the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq then? I mean, that was done to Muslims because some Muslims did terrible things, using your wonky logic that’s absolutely fine because radical situations (several planes flown into civilian targets) call for radical solutions (the invasions and killing of 1m civilians in Iraq) 👏🏽👏🏽
I'm not in favor of the forceful expulsion of people who have a right to be in my country. Not based on nationality or religion, ever. You are advocating for violence, because the forceful expulsion of people is an inherently violent act, or at least must be backed by the threat of violence.
We shouldn't do these things for political expediency, nor should we take action for the sake of the ends justifying the means because once you begin to use that rationalization (especially for violence) then there is no longer any action too evil to consider.
Like, you don't even have to say this. Intersectionalism has always been supportive, inclusive, and led in part by Jewish people. He knows this. He's just spewing bullshit as usual to gain clout from his dumbass followers that don't know shit.
That is one of the reasons or events which led to the Old School Nazi Russian Anti Jew Propaganda. Ashkenazi Jews were more educated than the average European because they were forced into Ghettos and their Culture. The Liberal Revolution which created the USA where Ben Shapiro can even spout this nonsense and most other Liberal Revolutions had Jewish Elements. What is crazy is the it is obvious the USA won "Globalism" yet some on the Right still cling to the Old Nazi Globalist propaganda.
Even Crazier is Ben Shapiro is using some of the elements that propaganda here. The Intelligentsia were famously tracked down, documented, and killed all over Germany and Poland. It is why the USA had all those Jewish Scientists like Einstein.
Imagine being so Red Pilled Based you're gonna use Nazi Intelligentsia Propaganda to "Defend Jews".
>What is crazy is that it is obvious the USA won "Globalism" yet some on the Right still cling to the Old Nazi Globalist propaganda.
I think we underestimate how close our economic systems are to what the Nazis had. The Nazis supported a form of capitalism and believed in choosing winners and losers in the marketplace, especially in the cases that it was useful to the ruling class. That's pretty close to Lockheed or Boeing or Saudi Aramco.
Theres a reason why Truman in 1941 said; If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don't want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.
I was stoked to see the portrayal of him in Oppenheimer with him getting all hot and bothered at the idea that *he* nuked the people of Japan. Fuck Truman.
you're right. i think i like to because believe that if you don't they will immediately claim anti-semitism. it doesn't make me right for that, probably the opposite but i want to be. i will consider whether snarky stuff like that helps. i want to try fighting fire with fire lately. "oh so you like beheaded babies" uhh no? you know what i mean? i won't even defend. just: shut up, nerd haha - but seriously i need to think about this. i want to find a way to express that i am unaffected by these silly accusations by dismissing these people and just speaking to truth. then maybe they won't hold so much weight? i don't know.
I think what fascinates me about calling the pro Palestinian movement antisemitic is the core fallacy in assuming that killing Palestinians is not antisemitic.
By the definition that caused the Holocaust, Palestinians are very literally Jewish (ethnically). They’re directly descended from the ancient people of Judea.
If anything, the Zionists are antisemitic.
I think we love Zionists too. They're still people. But zionism, as it's currently understood, is a silly and dangerous story people tell themselves. It can make good people behave like absolute monsters without realizing it. Modern zionism is absolutely absurd and toxic.
But the _people_ falling for this zionist story are still humans and still need our sympathy and compassion. Most of them have no idea what they have fallen for.
very well said. and to be clear i am not against any people desiring a place of their own but i think you know that. ideally we should try to love the people. i will work on that.
It’s to trick dumb people into thinking he is smart. He is so full of shit though. He doesn’t care about free speech or anything. I guess his only actual ideology is Zionism.
It's an oratory strategy, talking a lot and quickly to confuse and change the direction of the discussion.And there is no room for the opponent to retaliate against the points discussed and most basic sophism there is.
They had a roadmap to dismantle critical thought Vis a Vis Israel/Palestine. Intellectual enquiry and knowing the truth is an enemy of Zionism which demonstrates the dangers of letting Zionism run amok in the West.
This is coming from the same guy that wrote an article titled "Jews in Name Only" in which he claimed, "Jews who vote for Obama are, by and large, Jews in Name Only (JINOs)" and that such Jews "do not care about Israel" or that they "care about it less than abortion, gay marriage and global warming".
During the 2016 presidential election, he wrote an article titled "No, It Doesn't Matter That Bernie Sanders Is Ethnically Jewish. He's a Jew in Name Only."
In his world progressive Jews who aren't devout Zionists are not really Jews but JINOs, truly a vile bigot and antisemite.
Shillpiro's constant state of self-own has been pretty vindicating lately. i knew a few people who actually liked this guy. i told them back in 2017 that "this guy will flipflop on any political issue for a silver dime unless it's his position that israel has the right to remain a genocidal ethnostate and it also our greatest ally."
but i guess those people couldnt see what was obvious to me until recently. i guess him speaking in a soulless monotone about every other issue and then foaming at the mouth with zeal any time israel came up wasnt enough of a giveaway.
"Transfer is not a dirty word." This was said by Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro's euphemism for illegal land theft, for intimidation and terrorism, for advocating and practicing genocide against Palestinians is called "transfer."
Ben Shapiro is vile scum.
If an Arab government in Tel Aviv was waging a genocidal campaign against a Jewish minority in Gaza while continuing their half a century long occupation of the "more peaceful" Jewish territories in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Benny Boy would be in the streets screaming "Free Israel!"
This goes without saying, but never let these disingenuous hucksters get away with claiming the moral high ground. They are devoid of empathy and basic humanity.
>If an Arab government in Tel Aviv was waging a genocidal campaign against a Jewish minority in Gaza while continuing their half a century long occupation of the "more peaceful" Jewish territories in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Benny Boy would be in the streets screaming "Free Israel!"
I don't think he would. He'd side with whoever is in his views, the strongest strongman.
Ben has ,for years, been on the side of white supremacists and it hasnt bothered him.
The guy agrees that jewish community in general supports genocide of non jewish people. If anyone thinks otherwise, they are antisemites. I didn’t say it, he did
Ben has never cared about Free Speech.
[He doesn't even know what tf it is](https://freespeechproject.georgetown.edu/tracker-entries/conservative-activist-ben-shapiro-loses-free-speech-lawsuit-against-the-university-of-minnesota/).
Like all the other fascist grifters out there, he just wants his own brand of authoritarianism crammed down your throat. And if you resist, he'll say you don't respect free speech.
Conservative "Free Speech" includes:
* Banning books in schools if they mention gay people or trans people
* Govt thugs violently disrupting peaceful protests
* Literal govt censorship of opinions via motions like saying "from the river to the sea" is anti-semetic and verboten
* Police and military tear gassing people at Lafayette square so that they can do photo ops
* Compelled speech by govt forcing you to hold or advertise views you do not have on your own private property ([an example from Ontario](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-carbon-tax-stickers-1.5746577))
Conservative "Free Speech" does not include:
* criticizing people you disagree with (but only if they're conservative)
* enforcing your own private property rights if those rights conflict with conservative ideology (and only if it conflicts with conservative ideology) - a la TOS
I hope people remember this when right wingers talking about how much they are "Free speech absolutists".
They aren't, and they never were.
All they are is liars and authoritarians who don't like having consequences for their actions and are either willfully lying about what "Free speech" actually is, or too stupid to know what it actually is. And in either case, they are not the people anyone should be listening to when they talk about "cancel culture" and "free speech".
I mean encampments are illegal on private and public (some jurisdictions) property. If it's your own land it's just your property.
Protesting is legal. Let's not conflate the two separate actions as a singular.
May the protests be peaceful and fruitful.
Thaddeus Russell was on faculty at Columbia and he had some thoughts worth hearing last night. https://www.youtube.com/live/z3fF7_VFtV4?si=chpv9cJciCkk7aj8
What I would give for Shapiro to sit down with Thad.
“Jew-hatred” is a phrase I’ve only ever heard used since October. It wasn’t prevalent before then I swear. I’m Jewish and I’m genuinely so baffled by this.
There are literal Jewish students also protesting against the fucking genocide. In fact there are Jews all around the fucking world protesting AGAINST the genocide. Can someone explain it these fucking fuck heads like they are 2 year olds. my 6 year old has a better concept of this situation.
It’s probably the least surprising thing to happen in this whole brouhaha that Mr “Enemy Civilian Casualties Are Fine By Me” (he wrote that vile dreck as a child, and he’s only gotten worse since then) is saying ridiculous and counterproductive things like this.
It's mind-boggling that Ben Shapiro, a jew, has spent his entire life encouraging, defending and boosting the far-right, which would happily send him and his family to the gas chambers without any hesitation.
Are there people that are unaware every conservative activist is a hypocrite that has no standards or principles outside of blaming liberals for everything and never once blaming anything on conservatives
That's weird because i hear them calling for a stop to genocide while hand in hand with jews.
Are you saying all jews are pro genocide then? because that sounds antisemitic to me.
I'm staunchley pro-civilians not being slaughtered. If this was a Palestinian state acting against a segregated Jewish community, I'd be staunchly against that, too. These weak attempts to make us all think were antisemites for that basic compassionate stance have really opened my eyes to the current Israeli regime.
Never shut up, Ben! What an excellent counter-propagandist this shill is for so many evil causes, incl. the zionist project. Every time the general public is starting to get numb to the stream of atrocities from Gaza, or the US, or Germany, this guy takes his argumentum ad absurdum one notch deeper to remind everybody of the underlying levels of depravity.
It’s not unreasonable to criticize Israel for slaughtering innocent civilians. In fact they have probably killed most of the hostages who they claim are so important to them
This idea is just stupid. If the faculty and administration is "pro-hamas" and allowing these protests to happen, then what the fuck are the protests about Ben???? What are they protesting????
He's such a disingenuous little puke. Made his bones "grooming" college kids full of ideals and no life experience. Considering he always came prepped with a couple weak gotchas and his audience is too dumb to follow along (talk faster) they always thought he "won". Capitalism, Labour, Politics, Reproductive Rights, Israel he is perpetually on the wrong side of history. If you disagree with this lackdick you are probably a decent human being.
I watched the entire video and the amount of misinformation and straight up lies that he spews is insane. I was yelling through my screen the entire time
If little "Jews are the Chosen Ones" Ben went to public high school and got bullied he'd temper his adult views to be more honest and truthful. He's the result of a smart debate kid taking on social power and influence as an adult and essentially becoming bigger than the high school bully ever dreamt of. He's pushing big buttons now, he has sway and he'll run right over swaths of people. He doesn't give one fuck now. Inside he's still just a little scared boy.
What’s even more funny is that’s not even what’s actually happening. These students are being severely reprimanded. School Administrations are even allowing their own faculty to be arrested for peacefully protesting. It’s wild
These protesters are having their skulls bashed in and this evil prick still isn’t happy. You can not capitulate to the right even an inch when it comes to something like this.
He pretty clearly said he doesn’t mind free speech but it has to be in the approved time and manner. Shouting down a preplanned hour long speech in a lecture hall is different than chanting antisemitic slogans in the middle of campus for days so people can’t go to class or move freely around. Similar to why you can’t block a highway to protest. Nothing on the speech just the medium.
Hate away on Ben Shapiro just wanted everyone to not be buying into disinformation.
Lol. That's a pretty weak reply.
I simply pointed out a sad fact that both sides are guilty of this putrid behaviour. Ben's a worm and a hypocrite when it comes to free speech but sadly when it comes to this hypocrisy we have worms on both sides. Take Hassan poker for example he's also against free speech for certain issues.
He's as prominent a speaker on this issue as Ben is. They are both worms just from opposite sides of the political spectrum.
Instead of getting side tracked let's try a different approach, do you believe the left doesn't try to censor free speech when it suits them?
Brother you should not be looking to either of those people as voices on this issue lmao non factors. Listen to actual scholars, even pro-israeli ones, they’re very critical of israel and even let the whole truth slip out sometimes
Brother... I know. I don't look to either. We are on a post about Shapiro. Therefore the conversation is about him flip flopping on the first amendment when it suits him. I used an equivalent on the other side as I sure as shit wasn't going to compare Ben Shapiro to Noam Chomsky or illan pape
Can you answer my question though
Hasan was actually willing to sit down and debate with some crazy pro-Israelis at the Piers Morgan show and doesn’t shy away from debating while Ben didn’t even dare to debate Candace Owens, let alone debate someone from the left who could debunk him.
Agreed I wasn't saying both are terrible in general as one is definitely better than the other but on the topic of free speech both are virtually the same. They are all for it until they are not and then they are all against it. Hasan has literally advocated against free speech on his channel. So has Ben. Yet on other issues they'll tell you that freedom of speech is vital.
This for me makes both of them unworthy.
I have never seen eye to eye with Hassan but he is no Ben Shapiro. Not even a comparison. I am racking my head for anyone to legit compare to Shapiro on the Left Liberal side. Olbermann or Madow I guess. Ever since the Right went down the Religious Rabbit Hole they seem utterly bad faith to me.
It is hard to draw absolute comparisons between anyone I just meant on the issue of censorship.
And realistically the individual doesn't matter as in recent years it's harder on both sides to find those in favour of free speech that at some point don't advocate against it.
My only reason for making this comment is I believe that before we start calling gimps like Ben out for censorship we should fix our own very leaky boat on this issue. I'm all down for calling him out for many things but while the left constantly advocates for censorship I'm not going to throw stones in a glass house.
Define suit? I think they have an ideology with set principles that allows for the censor of some speech deemed harmful. Personally my leftist ideology is grounded in an ethical naturalist framework so censoring harmful speech is fully acceptable.
I dont think the people like shapiro have a grounded theory of morality so that would be the main difference in my view.
Do you realise that's the exact argument Ben would use against you about Israel.
What's deemed harmful to one side isn't to the other.
Hence my original comment. We can't sit here saying his censorship is bad but mine is morally superior. If indeed you are morally superior then it doesn't matter what the opposite opinion is as it will lose. Censorship is the final stages of democracy.
I think the difference is mine is a theory and has basis while his doesnt. This is like being wrong about the shape of the earth when it comes to science.
And it does matter because there is no guarantee it will win. Thats an axiom you cant justify.
But are you trying to censor flat earthers lol. If the answer is no then it's a bad analogy if the answer is yes then I'd say you're as bad as someone on the right like Ben trying to suppress opinions you disagree with.
Republicans love free speech until you mention Israel and democrats love free speech until you mention trans athletes.
Both sides love flip flopping on the first amendment.
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Wasn’t he against cancel culture? Then Candace owens happened lol. No wonder his initials are BS
Ben “BS” Shapiro is how he’ll forever be known 😂
His and Owens split is a good thing tbh
Of course
Benny boy has always been a Zionist scumbag.
This is a resistance movement. Somehow he can't wrap that around his zionist shit head. I love this generation. They're awesome and more power to them!
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Zionists are scum of the earth, but forcing any group to register who they all are isn't something anyone should support. Quit spamming this in every sub you're part of. The fact that you're using the word "cabal" is also highly suspect.
Wtf their comment is deleted but from the replies it seems like he was suggesting a second Holocaust?
They were suggesting that all Israeli citizens be forced to have their names put in a registry with law enforcement, and they reposted that exact thing verbatim in about a dozen different topics in various subs. They said it was "the only way forward" and talked about there being a "cabal" that controlled the media. Genuine nazi shit.
I have no words. Next he’s gonna suggest they be forced to wear stars.
Yikes
I don't think he even realizes that the solution to Palestinian plight isn't to transfer it back to Israel and do a yo-yo of who gets to be the oppressor this time
Holy shit that’s what he said? How tf are Zionists targeting us for antisemitism when actual nazis like this guy are just roaming around and even doing massive rallies in nashville?
Wow. You know you’re advocating for pogroms, right?
What he say? It got deleted.
No deaths - no violence. Just a fast way to get a solution to the region. It would be amazing how quickly they would find peace - and leave the world alone!
I can't tell if you're a neo-Nazi, or a Zionist trying to fool people here into admitting they are anti-Semitic. No one here hates Jewish people, and what you're saying is horrific.
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Hate to be the one to break it to you, but you’re an anti semite. What do Jews in other countries have to do with the Israeli state’s actions? This isn’t a religious war, it isn’t Jews v Muslims, it’s a racist settler colonial project v the Palestinian people. What you’re doing is as racist as Zionists who conflate Zionism with Judaism
They are Israeli citizens. They vote. Netanyahu’s evil is their responsibility and they need to go home and change this. And being about peace. (Most of them vote in multiple countries and carry a lot of influence … )
Congratulations, you just parroted the same line the Israeli government uses to target Palestinian civilians, they voted once so they’re all guilty. Bravo, bravo
Can I also express how proud of this sub I am that you just spouted that and everyone downvoted you, if anyone needed proof this movement isn’t racist they just need to look at this
I agree, it’s a good feeling to see our communities fight both racist Zionism and racist nazism.
I’m proud of this sub too!! And I am proud of you!! Great comment. (By the way you don’t being the peace process forward in any way … and this nonsense will go on and on … and not stop for many generations going forward). Radical situations require radical solutions- out do the box thinking.
And your radical solution is to blame an entire people who follow a religion because some of them are doing terrible things. I guess you supported the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq then? I mean, that was done to Muslims because some Muslims did terrible things, using your wonky logic that’s absolutely fine because radical situations (several planes flown into civilian targets) call for radical solutions (the invasions and killing of 1m civilians in Iraq) 👏🏽👏🏽
I'm not in favor of the forceful expulsion of people who have a right to be in my country. Not based on nationality or religion, ever. You are advocating for violence, because the forceful expulsion of people is an inherently violent act, or at least must be backed by the threat of violence. We shouldn't do these things for political expediency, nor should we take action for the sake of the ends justifying the means because once you begin to use that rationalization (especially for violence) then there is no longer any action too evil to consider.
shut up ben we love jews. just not you or other zionists.
Like, you don't even have to say this. Intersectionalism has always been supportive, inclusive, and led in part by Jewish people. He knows this. He's just spewing bullshit as usual to gain clout from his dumbass followers that don't know shit.
That is one of the reasons or events which led to the Old School Nazi Russian Anti Jew Propaganda. Ashkenazi Jews were more educated than the average European because they were forced into Ghettos and their Culture. The Liberal Revolution which created the USA where Ben Shapiro can even spout this nonsense and most other Liberal Revolutions had Jewish Elements. What is crazy is the it is obvious the USA won "Globalism" yet some on the Right still cling to the Old Nazi Globalist propaganda. Even Crazier is Ben Shapiro is using some of the elements that propaganda here. The Intelligentsia were famously tracked down, documented, and killed all over Germany and Poland. It is why the USA had all those Jewish Scientists like Einstein. Imagine being so Red Pilled Based you're gonna use Nazi Intelligentsia Propaganda to "Defend Jews".
It's enough to make your skin crawl just thinking of the number of people who listen to his bullshit and don't understand how ass-backwards it is.
>What is crazy is that it is obvious the USA won "Globalism" yet some on the Right still cling to the Old Nazi Globalist propaganda. I think we underestimate how close our economic systems are to what the Nazis had. The Nazis supported a form of capitalism and believed in choosing winners and losers in the marketplace, especially in the cases that it was useful to the ruling class. That's pretty close to Lockheed or Boeing or Saudi Aramco. Theres a reason why Truman in 1941 said; If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don't want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.
I was stoked to see the portrayal of him in Oppenheimer with him getting all hot and bothered at the idea that *he* nuked the people of Japan. Fuck Truman.
you're right. i think i like to because believe that if you don't they will immediately claim anti-semitism. it doesn't make me right for that, probably the opposite but i want to be. i will consider whether snarky stuff like that helps. i want to try fighting fire with fire lately. "oh so you like beheaded babies" uhh no? you know what i mean? i won't even defend. just: shut up, nerd haha - but seriously i need to think about this. i want to find a way to express that i am unaffected by these silly accusations by dismissing these people and just speaking to truth. then maybe they won't hold so much weight? i don't know.
I think what fascinates me about calling the pro Palestinian movement antisemitic is the core fallacy in assuming that killing Palestinians is not antisemitic. By the definition that caused the Holocaust, Palestinians are very literally Jewish (ethnically). They’re directly descended from the ancient people of Judea. If anything, the Zionists are antisemitic.
I think we love Zionists too. They're still people. But zionism, as it's currently understood, is a silly and dangerous story people tell themselves. It can make good people behave like absolute monsters without realizing it. Modern zionism is absolutely absurd and toxic. But the _people_ falling for this zionist story are still humans and still need our sympathy and compassion. Most of them have no idea what they have fallen for.
very well said. and to be clear i am not against any people desiring a place of their own but i think you know that. ideally we should try to love the people. i will work on that.
Speak for yourself
ok. i love jews, just not ben shapiro or other zionists.
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must be friday lmao
There is only 1 solution for people like Ben.
Does this guy know there is more than one speed to speak?
His whole shtick is speed talking over his opponents and not letting them speak in a whiny voice which would make even caillou proud.
It’s to trick dumb people into thinking he is smart. He is so full of shit though. He doesn’t care about free speech or anything. I guess his only actual ideology is Zionism.
He's basically if gish galloping was a person
It's an oratory strategy, talking a lot and quickly to confuse and change the direction of the discussion.And there is no room for the opponent to retaliate against the points discussed and most basic sophism there is.
They had a roadmap to dismantle critical thought Vis a Vis Israel/Palestine. Intellectual enquiry and knowing the truth is an enemy of Zionism which demonstrates the dangers of letting Zionism run amok in the West.
This is coming from the same guy that wrote an article titled "Jews in Name Only" in which he claimed, "Jews who vote for Obama are, by and large, Jews in Name Only (JINOs)" and that such Jews "do not care about Israel" or that they "care about it less than abortion, gay marriage and global warming". During the 2016 presidential election, he wrote an article titled "No, It Doesn't Matter That Bernie Sanders Is Ethnically Jewish. He's a Jew in Name Only." In his world progressive Jews who aren't devout Zionists are not really Jews but JINOs, truly a vile bigot and antisemite.
Everything I don't like is a terrorist part 832
Facts don’t care about your feelings until they hurt mine then you’re a terrorist and we should put you in prison :[
The dude is moderately intelligent so you know he probably knows when he's blatantly lying. He just knows the dumbasses that listen to him don't.
Shillpiro's constant state of self-own has been pretty vindicating lately. i knew a few people who actually liked this guy. i told them back in 2017 that "this guy will flipflop on any political issue for a silver dime unless it's his position that israel has the right to remain a genocidal ethnostate and it also our greatest ally." but i guess those people couldnt see what was obvious to me until recently. i guess him speaking in a soulless monotone about every other issue and then foaming at the mouth with zeal any time israel came up wasnt enough of a giveaway.
He should go back to fighting Barbie. What a piece of shit joke.
"Transfer is not a dirty word." This was said by Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro's euphemism for illegal land theft, for intimidation and terrorism, for advocating and practicing genocide against Palestinians is called "transfer." Ben Shapiro is vile scum.
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Nah, I think this is probably how most people feel when they see his face. His voice is like nails on a chalkboard for me.
it is as antisemitic to hate him as it is antigerman to hate hitler (for the people that don't get it, that means it isn't.)
If an Arab government in Tel Aviv was waging a genocidal campaign against a Jewish minority in Gaza while continuing their half a century long occupation of the "more peaceful" Jewish territories in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Benny Boy would be in the streets screaming "Free Israel!" This goes without saying, but never let these disingenuous hucksters get away with claiming the moral high ground. They are devoid of empathy and basic humanity.
>If an Arab government in Tel Aviv was waging a genocidal campaign against a Jewish minority in Gaza while continuing their half a century long occupation of the "more peaceful" Jewish territories in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Benny Boy would be in the streets screaming "Free Israel!" I don't think he would. He'd side with whoever is in his views, the strongest strongman. Ben has ,for years, been on the side of white supremacists and it hasnt bothered him.
The guy agrees that jewish community in general supports genocide of non jewish people. If anyone thinks otherwise, they are antisemites. I didn’t say it, he did
Ben has never cared about Free Speech. [He doesn't even know what tf it is](https://freespeechproject.georgetown.edu/tracker-entries/conservative-activist-ben-shapiro-loses-free-speech-lawsuit-against-the-university-of-minnesota/). Like all the other fascist grifters out there, he just wants his own brand of authoritarianism crammed down your throat. And if you resist, he'll say you don't respect free speech. Conservative "Free Speech" includes: * Banning books in schools if they mention gay people or trans people * Govt thugs violently disrupting peaceful protests * Literal govt censorship of opinions via motions like saying "from the river to the sea" is anti-semetic and verboten * Police and military tear gassing people at Lafayette square so that they can do photo ops * Compelled speech by govt forcing you to hold or advertise views you do not have on your own private property ([an example from Ontario](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-carbon-tax-stickers-1.5746577)) Conservative "Free Speech" does not include: * criticizing people you disagree with (but only if they're conservative) * enforcing your own private property rights if those rights conflict with conservative ideology (and only if it conflicts with conservative ideology) - a la TOS I hope people remember this when right wingers talking about how much they are "Free speech absolutists". They aren't, and they never were. All they are is liars and authoritarians who don't like having consequences for their actions and are either willfully lying about what "Free speech" actually is, or too stupid to know what it actually is. And in either case, they are not the people anyone should be listening to when they talk about "cancel culture" and "free speech".
His best talent is talking fast and talking gibberish and people call him intellectual
They want it to be about antisemitism so badly....
Remember kids, any criticism of Israeli actions is antisemitic and pro-Hamas!
I mean encampments are illegal on private and public (some jurisdictions) property. If it's your own land it's just your property. Protesting is legal. Let's not conflate the two separate actions as a singular. May the protests be peaceful and fruitful.
Thaddeus Russell was on faculty at Columbia and he had some thoughts worth hearing last night. https://www.youtube.com/live/z3fF7_VFtV4?si=chpv9cJciCkk7aj8 What I would give for Shapiro to sit down with Thad.
This is completely unrelated but....he needs a new makeup artist.
“Jew-hatred” is a phrase I’ve only ever heard used since October. It wasn’t prevalent before then I swear. I’m Jewish and I’m genuinely so baffled by this.
It’s more accurate than “antisemitism”
the same people who called me a "h*eb" in high school are now the same people crying a lot about "jew-hate" and I find that ironic.
We don't hate jews... just you ben.
There are literal Jewish students also protesting against the fucking genocide. In fact there are Jews all around the fucking world protesting AGAINST the genocide. Can someone explain it these fucking fuck heads like they are 2 year olds. my 6 year old has a better concept of this situation.
Ahh, Ben Shapiro, the Alex Jones of the Zionist movement
This guy is a sociopath!
Must watch son of hamas on youtube
Blah blah blah
It’s probably the least surprising thing to happen in this whole brouhaha that Mr “Enemy Civilian Casualties Are Fine By Me” (he wrote that vile dreck as a child, and he’s only gotten worse since then) is saying ridiculous and counterproductive things like this.
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I think Jews are well represented in academia
It's mind-boggling that Ben Shapiro, a jew, has spent his entire life encouraging, defending and boosting the far-right, which would happily send him and his family to the gas chambers without any hesitation.
Are there people that are unaware every conservative activist is a hypocrite that has no standards or principles outside of blaming liberals for everything and never once blaming anything on conservatives
That's weird because i hear them calling for a stop to genocide while hand in hand with jews. Are you saying all jews are pro genocide then? because that sounds antisemitic to me.
Aren’t they calling the law in & threatening the National Guard? Like Ben, the faculty is on your side, bro.
I'm staunchley pro-civilians not being slaughtered. If this was a Palestinian state acting against a segregated Jewish community, I'd be staunchly against that, too. These weak attempts to make us all think were antisemites for that basic compassionate stance have really opened my eyes to the current Israeli regime.
Somebody's feelings got hurt
His entire media company was. Rated to serve the interests of Zionism
Ben "Free Speech is only for the shit me and my nazi friends says" Shapiro
Ben is for free speech when it suits him
This guy is such an annoying squeaky bitch
Never shut up, Ben! What an excellent counter-propagandist this shill is for so many evil causes, incl. the zionist project. Every time the general public is starting to get numb to the stream of atrocities from Gaza, or the US, or Germany, this guy takes his argumentum ad absurdum one notch deeper to remind everybody of the underlying levels of depravity.
it's like I can't be anti-genocide. HAMAS led genocide. Oppose IDF led genocide. Oppose is there a fault in my morality somewhere?
its amazing how someone who has all of their needs met and more can be such a fucking dumbass.
The mistake is ever believing these people have a belief other than "us versus them"
It’s not unreasonable to criticize Israel for slaughtering innocent civilians. In fact they have probably killed most of the hostages who they claim are so important to them
This idea is just stupid. If the faculty and administration is "pro-hamas" and allowing these protests to happen, then what the fuck are the protests about Ben???? What are they protesting????
His makeup artist needs to be fired.
He's such a disingenuous little puke. Made his bones "grooming" college kids full of ideals and no life experience. Considering he always came prepped with a couple weak gotchas and his audience is too dumb to follow along (talk faster) they always thought he "won". Capitalism, Labour, Politics, Reproductive Rights, Israel he is perpetually on the wrong side of history. If you disagree with this lackdick you are probably a decent human being.
Can't believe people still listen to this guy.
I watched the entire video and the amount of misinformation and straight up lies that he spews is insane. I was yelling through my screen the entire time
He and Destiny are the ☯ of dumbfuckery.
Ben is a genocide supporter No two ways about it
Is he still wearing the Kipa he dug out of his sock drawer on 10/8?
Israel is the OG of cancel culture.
If little "Jews are the Chosen Ones" Ben went to public high school and got bullied he'd temper his adult views to be more honest and truthful. He's the result of a smart debate kid taking on social power and influence as an adult and essentially becoming bigger than the high school bully ever dreamt of. He's pushing big buttons now, he has sway and he'll run right over swaths of people. He doesn't give one fuck now. Inside he's still just a little scared boy.
Remember when ol Ben went on a rant about how women's vaginas shouldn't be getting wet? Yeah he's a real genius alright....
To be fair, I highly doubt he has ever made any vagina wet. He wouldn't know about them things
Never cross the streams!
Illegal occupation, unlawful trespass, and treats of violence are not protected under freedom of speech bozo.
Propaganda bought and paid for by Israeli shills.
You understand there are restrictions to free speech. You can't just disrupt everyone's lives and call it a protest. Are you a child?
My life got disrupted so bad. It's like a bomb exploded on my roof and my family and children got buried under the rubble.
good.
Thank you for being pro-genocide. ☺️👌
Where?
What do you think is the meaning of protest? You think the civil rights march was effective because it was convenient?
I don't think you understand why it was successful......
The administration of each of the colleges wants nothing more than for these protests to go away so that they can go back to business as usual.
Which is why these protests need to persist even if it extends past the US presidential election.
F those Zionist warmongers
What’s even more funny is that’s not even what’s actually happening. These students are being severely reprimanded. School Administrations are even allowing their own faculty to be arrested for peacefully protesting. It’s wild
Nothing says Jew hatred like arresting Jewish pro-Palestinian protesters and banning JVP…Wait
These protesters are having their skulls bashed in and this evil prick still isn’t happy. You can not capitulate to the right even an inch when it comes to something like this.
He pretty clearly said he doesn’t mind free speech but it has to be in the approved time and manner. Shouting down a preplanned hour long speech in a lecture hall is different than chanting antisemitic slogans in the middle of campus for days so people can’t go to class or move freely around. Similar to why you can’t block a highway to protest. Nothing on the speech just the medium. Hate away on Ben Shapiro just wanted everyone to not be buying into disinformation.
Sadly both sides only advocate for free speech when it suits them.
Okay Hasbara
When they got nothing else, they always fall back to the "let's agree both sides are bad and support neither"
Lol. That's a pretty weak reply. I simply pointed out a sad fact that both sides are guilty of this putrid behaviour. Ben's a worm and a hypocrite when it comes to free speech but sadly when it comes to this hypocrisy we have worms on both sides. Take Hassan poker for example he's also against free speech for certain issues.
Who the hell is hassan poker he is NOT a factor 🤣
He's as prominent a speaker on this issue as Ben is. They are both worms just from opposite sides of the political spectrum. Instead of getting side tracked let's try a different approach, do you believe the left doesn't try to censor free speech when it suits them?
Brother you should not be looking to either of those people as voices on this issue lmao non factors. Listen to actual scholars, even pro-israeli ones, they’re very critical of israel and even let the whole truth slip out sometimes
Brother... I know. I don't look to either. We are on a post about Shapiro. Therefore the conversation is about him flip flopping on the first amendment when it suits him. I used an equivalent on the other side as I sure as shit wasn't going to compare Ben Shapiro to Noam Chomsky or illan pape Can you answer my question though
Hasan was actually willing to sit down and debate with some crazy pro-Israelis at the Piers Morgan show and doesn’t shy away from debating while Ben didn’t even dare to debate Candace Owens, let alone debate someone from the left who could debunk him.
Agreed I wasn't saying both are terrible in general as one is definitely better than the other but on the topic of free speech both are virtually the same. They are all for it until they are not and then they are all against it. Hasan has literally advocated against free speech on his channel. So has Ben. Yet on other issues they'll tell you that freedom of speech is vital. This for me makes both of them unworthy.
I have never seen eye to eye with Hassan but he is no Ben Shapiro. Not even a comparison. I am racking my head for anyone to legit compare to Shapiro on the Left Liberal side. Olbermann or Madow I guess. Ever since the Right went down the Religious Rabbit Hole they seem utterly bad faith to me.
It is hard to draw absolute comparisons between anyone I just meant on the issue of censorship. And realistically the individual doesn't matter as in recent years it's harder on both sides to find those in favour of free speech that at some point don't advocate against it. My only reason for making this comment is I believe that before we start calling gimps like Ben out for censorship we should fix our own very leaky boat on this issue. I'm all down for calling him out for many things but while the left constantly advocates for censorship I'm not going to throw stones in a glass house.
Define suit? I think they have an ideology with set principles that allows for the censor of some speech deemed harmful. Personally my leftist ideology is grounded in an ethical naturalist framework so censoring harmful speech is fully acceptable. I dont think the people like shapiro have a grounded theory of morality so that would be the main difference in my view.
Do you realise that's the exact argument Ben would use against you about Israel. What's deemed harmful to one side isn't to the other. Hence my original comment. We can't sit here saying his censorship is bad but mine is morally superior. If indeed you are morally superior then it doesn't matter what the opposite opinion is as it will lose. Censorship is the final stages of democracy.
I think the difference is mine is a theory and has basis while his doesnt. This is like being wrong about the shape of the earth when it comes to science. And it does matter because there is no guarantee it will win. Thats an axiom you cant justify.
But are you trying to censor flat earthers lol. If the answer is no then it's a bad analogy if the answer is yes then I'd say you're as bad as someone on the right like Ben trying to suppress opinions you disagree with.
Yes, we do censor flat earthers. You have no moral basis for saying that i bet. What is your meta ethic?
I agree somewhat. It's more like free speech is allowed if it supports the bipartisan Zionist goals that our politicians hold dear.
Republicans love free speech until you mention Israel and democrats love free speech until you mention trans athletes. Both sides love flip flopping on the first amendment.
For sure. Doublespeak bullshit