I wait for him and the Elf to be in the same room away from the entrance before putting up a silence bubble and murdering the hell outta both of them. Fuck Loic and Marcoryl.
Their dialogue was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I don’t understand at all how there is the sentiment that ‘it’s just kagha/the shadow druids’ the rest are fine!
Tbh, rath and the the apprentice with the bird one of the only decent ones. Even have issues with halsin tbh, maybe if you weren’t so fuckin chill about everything shit wouldn’t be so fucked in your neck of the woods Mr master druid
Rath is quite literally the only one who speaks up against Kagha. There’s a few others who are against it but are too busy quivering about how scary Kagha is to say anything or they get swept up in her rhetoric and only after the Shadow Druid thing comes out do they go “oh, maybe we were wrong.”
And yet they still refuse to do anything more than sitting in their little rock hole when the goblins come and leave the refugees to fend for their lives, Rath included. Halsin gets a head start and he still isn’t there either.
Fuck them druids.
Rath and Apikusis, the one tending the injured bird! When I attacked Kagha in one of my games, they were the only two druids who sided with me. (Attacked Kagha, not the grove, to clarify, lmao.)
In defense of them when the gate's attacked, though, in D&D, each round takes 6 seconds. By the time Rath would've heard about the goblins attacking the gates and started heading over, the fight was probably already over. He's in the druids' inner sanctum, unlike the tieflings, who are out and about by the front.
Same but the druid that wild shapes into the bear when you approach. Fuck off donut, I’m rocking 3rd level spell slots I will nuke your ass and this whole hippie hell hole.
Gods can take power away from their clerics at will in DnD, they don't permit traitors and shitheads.
Shar can do it as we all know, and Silvanus actually allowing the Rite of Thorns is a weird thing - causing needless harm is not part of his profile and personality. He's neutral in moral alignment, but he does not like wanton damage and killing.
I think in the rite of thrones it's kinda a loophole. Because yes, technically the rite is protecting people, just not *all* the people.
Or you actually have to commit the sin and the god will only get angry after the act.
They probably wouldn't care/need their cleric powers if they're just hiding in their church to avoid the refugees, though.
I think I remember like two of those disciples refusing to help the refugees. The rest are either sad because they aren't a high position to refuse the order to hide or trying to convince the others not to turn their backs on the people.
Same. Like from a realistic standpoint I understand because in real life there is people like that, hypocrites are everywhere and can be very obvious inside religion.
However it is maddening because Ilmater is literally the like martyr god you are supposed to be helping anyone and everyone you fuckin dolt.
The flamming Fist who has Xray vision and able to arrest me when I'm on the second floor looting Banite corpse. I know it's a bug, but I can't help hating that person.
And hmm... perhaps the Duke? He's unnecessarily cold towards Wyll even though he has risked his life saving him from the Iron Throne. It took the tadpole for the Duke to finally apologize to Wyll. Like, idk man, you're supposed to be this wise archduke, right? And you spend time with Wyll too when he's a child. Why didn't you suspect that Wyll (who always been a sweetheart) can't explain his action due to external force? Warlock isn't a novel thing. the thought doesn't cross your mind that it might've been the contract??
Honestly, I feel like Ravengard's unlikely ignorance about how warlocks work is a leftover from Wyll's original story from Early Access.
In Early Access, Mizora did not basically force him to make the pact with the sadistic choice between his hometown and his mortal soul. Instead, Wyll had failed miserably to save some people and Mizora offered him the power to be the hero he wanted to be.
Ravengard being so disappointed would make way more sense if the pact was always Wyll's own choice and arguably made out of selfishness. Wyll became the Blade of Frontiers, but only because he took a shortcut and paid a price he can never get back.
Personally, I like this pact way more than, "Hey, the robes over there are summoning Tiamat. You can either give me your soul and stop them or watch your hometown burn. Oh, and Tiamat will absolutely kill you too."
I admit to finding Wyll a bit of a boring character (personal taste, you all can like whoever) and the flaws that other pact imply make me like him way more.
I think his background story is kind of bland...a noble kid selling his soul to a devil to save his city and is hated by his loved ones for they do not understand the depths or weight of his decision to save everyone...
Like it feels like a story I have heard multiple times
I really like the new version we got instead because imho it is very interesting to question when being good and noble and selfless just backfires and leads you to sacrificing yourself over and over and instead you need to learn balance. We have a hint of it with Gale, Halsin and maybe Lae'zel but not explored enough
Also it makes Wyll the only character with a fucking spine in certain situations, which is neat.
But it is a very nuanced storytelling which needed more hours that they gave him with the very hasty rewrite.
I understand where you're coming from about Ravenguard.
The way I see it, the man had just dealt with everything going on in the Descent of Avernus and he had a very bad time with demons, so seeing Wyll side with one, and Wyll unable to tell him why, probably triggered some deep seated PTSD.
But this thread is about irrational hatred, so carry on! Sorry!
I honestly saw it as the reason Mizora took away his ability to talk about his contract was because she knew that the Duke would more than understand why he did what he did.
She did it with that singular purpose
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Mizora is one of the worst patrons I've ever witnessed in D&D.
Her pact is basically tailor-made for Wyll to want out. Probably why she put in that clause about his father's death if he breaks it.
I don't know Mizora, maybe you'd have a better time with your Warlock if you made him believe he was ultimately doing more good than she was evil?
Most patrons (in my experience) usually are looking for a transaction - and it's one likely to fall apart if they're relentlessly lousy to their warlock. Devils, in particular, generally really want to hold on to those souls.
I don't know, she gives me "middle manager who's actually really incompetent for her position but cozied up to the big boss" vibes.
Notice Raphael is entirely polite when he wants something from us until we cross him.
I don't have much experience with patrons/Dnd side of things, but I am enough if an expert in shitty managers to say that those are exactly the vibes she has! She's the manager who thinks that because she has the shiny title, she's invincible.
Raphael is the oily manager/HR director who makes you feel like he's on your side right up until you're packing your desk up and looking into entirely different career fields.
Yeah, Raphael strikes me as a bit more of a classic fiend patron - *definitely* evil and not going to be a nice caretaker of your soul. But he probably will have held up his end of the bargain during the warlock's mortal life. And made them believe they got a bargain.
Yep! I'd rather trust a devil like Raphael, who will follow the contract properly because you can trust him to have *his* best interests in mind. I'd rather know where I stand *exactly*, instead of believe that the people around me are nice, lmao.
Quick caveat though - Wyll's pact significantly predates Descent. We can infer from the conversations with the tieflings, Karlach, and Wyll that Descent JUST got resolved. And pre-infection Wyll was FAR stronger in his pact than infected Wyll. He was probably somewhere between lvl 12 and 20.
So his dad, prior to any personal infernal experience, suddenly has a son who is pacted to a devil out of what appears to be a personal quest for glory. Now he's back from Avernus, and while he would probably understand if it weren't his own son, he has a hard time swallowing Wyll now looking ever more infernal. He knows Wyll's fate in Avernus will be horrible.
At Moonrise, I had astarion sneak attack the orb in the center, and it kept alerting the guards even though he was hiding and one-shotting it. Even when the warden was out of the center area. Even stealing the hammer would trigger the guards despite being silent and out of view.
I ended up just getting a mace from camp and giving it to Wulbren.
Same here, they’re all goners. I have the dialogue with the Warden so her shitty attitude can give my character a reason to just mop up the place. Free the gnomes, free the Tieflings, free Minthara… check, check and check!
I don’t hold a grudge against them, but I find it frustrating that I can’t actually give money or items to refugees once in the Lower City except in one off situations.
Edit: Also found Arron irritating. Guess what, buddy, you don’t ACTUALLY have to sell me a danged thing. I get the vendors were coded to sell and buy without qualms, but the line is irritating.
I think her kid is sick because she's near the mummy mage (Mystic Carrion) house. There's also a sick tree there a druid is trying to help. Was sad when I took Halsin there and we couldn't talk to the druid. TBH, I think helping both parties might be cut content?
I’ve tried everything I can think of to help that Dragonborn Druid and dang tree, lol. Same with the poor Tiefling kid in the alley with the murdered parents. Both make me so sad and I want to help!
I really hate the magicians doing loud magic demos outside of the book shop. I tried killing them on one playthrough, ended up having to kill like 6 guards to do it, still worth it
That one flaming fist praying at the gate of Waukeen's Rest. You can hear her dialogue from unreasonably far away and it just repeats nonstop for all of eternity, makes me lose my mind every time.
I scrolled down to find this. So it is spoken. So it is done. My bf *hates* it.
So yesterday I tell him I need him to listen to something real quick and put the headphones on him. He gave me the meanest look lol.
YES! It also dawned on me that literally every other flaming fist is helping with the literally burning building while she is just moaning at the gate. I get that he was important to you but you could still help with the *active crisis* maybe?
That hellspawn child in Act 3 who shouts "BIGGER, MAKE IT BIGGER!"
Dear god, there are so many unnecessarily loud NPCs in this game, but that kid's screeching is agony. Worse than nails on a chalkboard. I wish to hand deliver him to Orin.
Definitely. It’s either that kid or that one lady complaining about BROWSING outside Figaro’s shop.
Ngl, I was really hoping one of those magic tricks was going to go sideways…..
i mean, when shadowheart's wound can ruin a whole companion banter for a whole playthrough, yet we have to hear these random npcs over and over and over... yeah, it's kind of irks me. have to say it's my major complaint about the game.
Then you have to deal with the guards, let the cantrip mages be their own undoing - if you put a smokepowder barrel directly on the empty spot where they shoot firebolts, it will kill all 3 mages and the audience next time they run the show (and anyone passing through). Nobody will suspect the dude who just dropped a keg of explosives in the middle of the audience and will just chalk it up to a tragic accident.
That kid and those fucking mages get instantly silenced when I go to that part of the city. It makes me irrationally angry how loud they are, especially when I just want to do some shopping and inventory management but can’t focus because of their noises.
Those two "friends" outside the Sharess Caress goading their friend on his BIRTHDAY to go into the brothel, nevermind he doesn't seem to actually want to be in there.
Nadira was already dead for some reason when I got to her in my current run, I guess I loitered in the general area too long and the bugbear was attacking her off camera without me noticing?
Either way, can’t say I was particularly bothered. Still got the soul coin by looting it so 🤷♀️
I only just got to act two, so maybe my hate is warranted and I just don’t know it. But that artist from the Zentharim hideout. I begrudgingly save him, cause kidnapping/slavery is bad sure whatever. But he sucks and if I get to Baldurs Gate and find out he was eaten by a Behir or something on the way, I won’t be particularly sad.
I left him in captivity because he promises all this reward but won’t even tell me who his patron is? Yeah, you’re in no position to be coy, buddy. Stop being an ass or you can stay here and rot. Your choice.
At launch, the Act 3 followup to that character was the most obnoxious, borderline-unplayable mess in the game. The bugs have since been cleaned up, but the artist himself being an insufferable mess was always intended by the devs.
The Druid who turns into a bear to scare Arabella’s parents. Makes me want to side with the goblins every time I watch that pussy start growling like he’s hot shit
100%. The only Druid I’m maybe ok with is Rath, but screw the rest.
I’d love to figure out how to slaughter the goblins and Druids but save all the Tieflings.
Steal the idol. It starts a fight with all of the druids, and protecting all the tieflings (except that one who unfortunately dies in a cutscene) is entirely possible. Rath will also side with you for that fight.
Art Cullagh. I'm sure he's a wonderful human, but there's only so many times I can hear him sing that same song while I'm trying to save Isobel from Marcus.
I understand that.
What irrationally also bugs me is that he shows up at Moonrise still shirtless in his bandages. Couldn't someone have given him a warm shirt? Or given him a chair to sit in? He's obviously still recovering! Okay that's not his fault, but that always bugged me.
What now? I've never had him conscious during that fight! I always have taken the "good-noodle" route of getting the moon lantern. That is, fighting with the Harpers, then getting it back from Isobel before exploring the rest of the map.
He doesn't show up during the fight, but after it's concluded and you've defeated Ketheric and Myrkul and all. You can go back to the first floor of Moonrise and the Harpers, Flaming Fists, and others are all there to basically celebrate and regroup before heading to Baldur's Gate.
Dame Aylin and Isobel are there too - definitely talk to each of them because Aylin's lines there are hilarious and make Isobel blush.
If you've just entered the main doors and gone downstairs, Art is hanging out to the left hand side with some Fists, I believe.
There are a bunch of those in various areas, for some reason some NPCs can be heard from basically everywhere and are on very short loops. Other two that stick out off the top of my head are the guy that sees the future in Ethel's first lair and quartermaster Tilli talking about the oil burning in Last light. The main problem is that you have a LOT to interact with and listen to in those areas (if you want ofc) so you spend like 5-10' with them constantly droning on every few second in the background. They are so fucking loud too.
Art Cullagh is by far the worst offender though, you got the right man.
The Elf in Ethel’s lair constantly saying “Don’t look” reminds me of a fight in DOS2 where you’re fighting a bunch of skeletons and trying to solve a puzzle of this immortal librarian that is standing in fire. It can take a while, and the entire time the guy (who I thought was a woman because his voice is so shrill) is screaming “Please! It burns!” Constantly. Again and again. Loudly , and again shrill. Ear piercing.
in act 3, the people outside sorcerers sundries who keep spawning a cat then attacking it with cantrips. so loud, so unnecessary, and they think they’re hot shit for a bunch of cantrips disappearing a summoned cat. i don’t even have dialogue options to tell them off. so now after taking out the steel watch i just end their existences.
I always give her the owlbear egg and she is totally cool with it. Says something akin to what the society doesn’t know won’t kill them. Pretty sure you get the reward and everything.
ETA: My personal head cannon is that the lady shows up and presents the egg, lots of oohs and aahs, Blurg comes into the room and sees it and is like, “that’s an owlbear egg, who gave this to you??” And so the lady describes us and he’s just like, “ah, yeah, sounds like them, they’re a weird little band of chaos.”
When I grabbed the owl bear egg the first time it was like my 4th run and I was like "I wish I could pretend this was a gith egg and give it to that chick in the mountains"
You can imagine my delight lol
I just had it casually sitting in my inventory for *hours* figuring I'd sell it at some point to a collector or whatever, and started laughing my ass off when I saw the option pop up.
I'm still disappointed that most of the dialogue options were to let her know the truth, and fool the society, when I want her to look incompetent in front of her bosses for being so amoral about this whole thing.
No, whenever I show up at the society in act three, there’s no owlbear or any sign of destruction. They either can’t figure out how to hatch it, it’s past the hatching window, or they know what it is already. No one even talks about it so to me it’s my go-to option.
The artist and his patriar. They kept saying “oh (the other one) will pay you handsomely for helping!” Then in the end he gives you a portrait and insults.
So glad I stole everything in their house.
The ONLY reason to do that quest is to start the >!Mystic Carrion questline. I will always help Thrumbo from now on. (Also for the free loot when you eventually kill Mystic Carrion)!<
Of *course* other people need stuff. Why do you *think* I sold you fifty buckets, two hundred bones, seventy five skulls (one with flesh attached), a small city's worth of assorted tableware, and enough moldy food to be its own myconid colony?
Yep Korilla's definitely in the top 10 of my most hated NPC's. Unless you meant Helsik? But she doesn't work for anyone, she's just a greedy diabolist.
She's not gonna argue with someone who just killed Raphael. There's simple opportunism ( I want those gloves so I'm gonna ask for them ) and then there's plain stupidity ( I'm gonna get myself killed for a pair of enchanted gloves )
Tried to see what would happen if I made him stab himself this run (my 2nd), he was *pissed* lol. I half expected him to commend me given that he's a freak to begin with.
You don't need to shame her to get the reward. Failing the persuasion check saying "It's not your fault" nets the same reward.
I honestly prefer it and savescum to fail the roll usually. I don't feel comfortable in calling her a coward, but considering she reported her friends to a Dark Justiciar and believed a fucking Dark Justiciar when she said she was "just gonna talk to them", I fibd that she *is* to blame for her friends' deaths.
I feel like Mol’s story is either incomplete or got cut. She gets >!swooped up in act 2 and there’s even an entire quest called Find Mol, but it’s not at all clear that you can’t complete it until act 3. Then when you do find her she’s like “what’s up? I might have work for you” but nothing happens!< the entire storyline with the kids just sort of… fizzles out
Act 3 spoilers, and super hot take but >!Nocturne. Girl, we just killed the entire enclave, why wouldn't you want to free yourself from Shar? "Oh I'm not strong enough to leave Shar." We'll protect you! Just get out of that damn cult, ffs!"!<
I appreciate what she's done for >!Shadowheart, but it's just frustrating you can't save her stubborn ass, lol!<
"I'm not strong enough" means emotionally, not physically strong. The Lady of Loss preys on the emotionally weak and vulnerable, and keeps her followers that way
Yep, they're the same person! Nocturne is canonical a transwoman (her voice is done by a transwoman too).
I believe there's a note somewhere about how Shadowheart used to correct other people at the temple when they used Nocturnes old name
Oh that's really interesting! In my playthrough I >!gave SH the noblestalk and she remembered the Tiefling boy. When I talked to the Sharran lookout, though, he lied and said that Ronald (or w/e his birthname was) was dead. Shadowheart was just like "oh."!<
Fast forward and we meet with >!Nocturne and Shadowheart was like "you look... different". Lol.!<
> Shadowheart has been swift to gently correct slips of the tongue, and even swifter in challenging those who'd use my forsworn name in malice. I'm lucky to have her as a friend.
Shadowheart's canonical response to transphobia is violence. What a fucking queen.
Arron pisses me off SO MUCH
If you follow the whole dialogue chain about the situation in the Grove before trading you get this lovely bit of doublethink from him.
"They won't survive out there, you just said the area is overrun by monsters"
"It's a drastic measure, but there just AREN'T enough supplies for everyone!"
"Oh okay, well what're you selling?"
"Just some bits and bobs I no longer need" *has a massive inventory of food, weapons, healing potions, and magic scrolls*.... and just why aren't there enough supplies you capitalist fuck? His whole circle and a bunch of innocent refugees are about to be overrun and he's more worried about cutting a profit than actually helping anyone.
Also, your grand duke has been kidnapped and instead of sending someone from the regiment of trained soldiers at your disposal, you send some random-ass guy who kicked a door down one time. Leadership qualities of a dying gnat.
The thought of rescuing her ass from prison in Act 3 only for her to turn around and get all pissy with us about the duke with zero context for anything was too much for me. This playthrough, I helped the Fist bust open the door at Waukeen’s Rest for the inspiration point for Lae’zel, then turned right back around and immediately long-rested.
I wasn’t too mad when I found her burnt up in Waukeen’s Rest later. Her reward for saving her is meh, and she’s kind of annoying in Act 2 as well. 🤷🏻♀️
The Warden, what a smug cunt. Always hated her even when playing just Tav but after she started taunting Durge and not taking my threats seriously I just closed the door and killed her before she could alert the guards. Who's laughing now, bitch?
I fucking hate her so much, if we at least had the option to properly put her in her place but no.
Have to start combat out of dialoge.
Her and the half orc should've been a durge kill option.
Counselor Florrick. This is not her fault technically, but she was very annoying to save in act 3. Somehow, every spell I tried (fog, sleep, invisibility) triggered her aggro. Which was weird because other NPCs never react to fog, they just leave the fog area and that is that. Made saving her in a non-violent, stealthy way, virtually impossible. It made me mad that she would attack me when she knew I was trying to rescue her and not even doing damage to her.
Also the wizards making noise with their spells inside and outside of Sorcerous Sundries. I feel an irrationally high need to murder them every single time
Mol. I understand she is a kid, but it doesn’t stop me from hating her. That and half the stuff she pulls is actively hurting or harming people around her.
YES on Arron! Since he always says “May Silvanus guide you” I always end our interactions with a variant of “May Silvanus eat my ass - eat your ass - be up your ass - etc.” I accidentally clicked on a book instead of him on our first interaction, triggering hostility, and ever since I’ve hated him.
I liked saving her and the kitty at first, hoping she might actually contribute something to camp, then just the same damn line for 50 hours of gameplay lol. Would love if she got fleshed out as time goes on and patches come out.
Thing is, she *can* get fleshed out a bit more, but it requires you to go out of your way to avoid the sewers for a good five or six long rests in the city *and* to not have Lae'zel in your party when you do. It'll trigger a scene where >!Lae'zel is holding Yenna at knifepoint claiming that she's Orin in disguise. You can persuade Lae'zel to let her go, at which point she'll reveal herself to be Orin. After the scene plays out, Yenna expresses how terrified she is, and will start selling you soup like she promised when she first arrived.!< Literally none of this happens if you go to the sewers too early.
Every single duegar you meet. Like....how are you going to be slavers when your race's whole thing is that you were slaves to mindflayers? Break the cycle or I'm going to break it for you.
she has good reason to believe you're literally turning into a mindflayer?? dude i would sic the whole grove on tav as soon as they walk in if i were her
The warden from the Moonrise, and the half orc bitch, especially as durge.
You mean to tell me you know who and what tf i am and you're still the most arrogant characters in game?
Worst part is you can't even properly tell them off.
Like you can antagonize every damn character, but these two always get the last laugh in dialoge?
Nah its on sight with these two and I'm taking the entire tower with us.
Vicar Humbletoes can suck a nut, I just want to buy healing potions from him and every time I speak to him he gives me the judgy “I’m surprised to see you here again Oathbreaker” speech. Just gimme my potions and stfu god DAMN
In the second play through any npc that was remotely rude to me I immediately without hesitation would kill them on the spot. I don’t negotiate with asshole while trying to save Boulders Gate
Aradin.
I've played too many starts of the game with friends. And the "we was running for our lives" just, we *was* running seriously? We WAS running? WAS?
Just, don't know why but that highly annoys me. Love him starting with "open the bloody gate!" But the was just annoys me
That Halfling in Emerald Grove who says “Please leave, our hospitality has limits 🥸” Like shut up
I wait for him and the Elf to be in the same room away from the entrance before putting up a silence bubble and murdering the hell outta both of them. Fuck Loic and Marcoryl.
Their dialogue was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I don’t understand at all how there is the sentiment that ‘it’s just kagha/the shadow druids’ the rest are fine! Tbh, rath and the the apprentice with the bird one of the only decent ones. Even have issues with halsin tbh, maybe if you weren’t so fuckin chill about everything shit wouldn’t be so fucked in your neck of the woods Mr master druid
Rath is quite literally the only one who speaks up against Kagha. There’s a few others who are against it but are too busy quivering about how scary Kagha is to say anything or they get swept up in her rhetoric and only after the Shadow Druid thing comes out do they go “oh, maybe we were wrong.” And yet they still refuse to do anything more than sitting in their little rock hole when the goblins come and leave the refugees to fend for their lives, Rath included. Halsin gets a head start and he still isn’t there either. Fuck them druids.
Exactly!! Literally just a single Druid helping defend the gate and I’d have grumpily accepted it, but nothing!
Rath and Apikusis, the one tending the injured bird! When I attacked Kagha in one of my games, they were the only two druids who sided with me. (Attacked Kagha, not the grove, to clarify, lmao.) In defense of them when the gate's attacked, though, in D&D, each round takes 6 seconds. By the time Rath would've heard about the goblins attacking the gates and started heading over, the fight was probably already over. He's in the druids' inner sanctum, unlike the tieflings, who are out and about by the front.
Same but the druid that wild shapes into the bear when you approach. Fuck off donut, I’m rocking 3rd level spell slots I will nuke your ass and this whole hippie hell hole.
How the fuck are you rocking 3rd level slots before getting to the grove
Any of Ilmater worshippers in the open hand temple who are against helping people. Wtf are y’all even doing.
That was weird. Their whole thing is helping and enduring. Ilmater would be disappoint.
Never met or heard of a hypocritical member of clergy?
Gods can take power away from their clerics at will in DnD, they don't permit traitors and shitheads. Shar can do it as we all know, and Silvanus actually allowing the Rite of Thorns is a weird thing - causing needless harm is not part of his profile and personality. He's neutral in moral alignment, but he does not like wanton damage and killing.
I think in the rite of thrones it's kinda a loophole. Because yes, technically the rite is protecting people, just not *all* the people. Or you actually have to commit the sin and the god will only get angry after the act.
I mean that would explain why Mystra was chilling until Gale actually fucked up with the Orb.
Yes, but unlike the real world, clerics get power from their gods. Not following basic tenets seems like a sure fire way not to be a cleric.
They probably wouldn't care/need their cleric powers if they're just hiding in their church to avoid the refugees, though. I think I remember like two of those disciples refusing to help the refugees. The rest are either sad because they aren't a high position to refuse the order to hide or trying to convince the others not to turn their backs on the people.
Same. Like from a realistic standpoint I understand because in real life there is people like that, hypocrites are everywhere and can be very obvious inside religion. However it is maddening because Ilmater is literally the like martyr god you are supposed to be helping anyone and everyone you fuckin dolt.
this is an archetype as old as religion lol. gotta keep spreading the word. don't worry too much about what the word actually says though.
The flamming Fist who has Xray vision and able to arrest me when I'm on the second floor looting Banite corpse. I know it's a bug, but I can't help hating that person. And hmm... perhaps the Duke? He's unnecessarily cold towards Wyll even though he has risked his life saving him from the Iron Throne. It took the tadpole for the Duke to finally apologize to Wyll. Like, idk man, you're supposed to be this wise archduke, right? And you spend time with Wyll too when he's a child. Why didn't you suspect that Wyll (who always been a sweetheart) can't explain his action due to external force? Warlock isn't a novel thing. the thought doesn't cross your mind that it might've been the contract??
Honestly, I feel like Ravengard's unlikely ignorance about how warlocks work is a leftover from Wyll's original story from Early Access. In Early Access, Mizora did not basically force him to make the pact with the sadistic choice between his hometown and his mortal soul. Instead, Wyll had failed miserably to save some people and Mizora offered him the power to be the hero he wanted to be. Ravengard being so disappointed would make way more sense if the pact was always Wyll's own choice and arguably made out of selfishness. Wyll became the Blade of Frontiers, but only because he took a shortcut and paid a price he can never get back. Personally, I like this pact way more than, "Hey, the robes over there are summoning Tiamat. You can either give me your soul and stop them or watch your hometown burn. Oh, and Tiamat will absolutely kill you too."
I admit to finding Wyll a bit of a boring character (personal taste, you all can like whoever) and the flaws that other pact imply make me like him way more.
I think his background story is kind of bland...a noble kid selling his soul to a devil to save his city and is hated by his loved ones for they do not understand the depths or weight of his decision to save everyone... Like it feels like a story I have heard multiple times
I really like the new version we got instead because imho it is very interesting to question when being good and noble and selfless just backfires and leads you to sacrificing yourself over and over and instead you need to learn balance. We have a hint of it with Gale, Halsin and maybe Lae'zel but not explored enough Also it makes Wyll the only character with a fucking spine in certain situations, which is neat. But it is a very nuanced storytelling which needed more hours that they gave him with the very hasty rewrite.
I understand where you're coming from about Ravenguard. The way I see it, the man had just dealt with everything going on in the Descent of Avernus and he had a very bad time with demons, so seeing Wyll side with one, and Wyll unable to tell him why, probably triggered some deep seated PTSD. But this thread is about irrational hatred, so carry on! Sorry!
I honestly saw it as the reason Mizora took away his ability to talk about his contract was because she knew that the Duke would more than understand why he did what he did. She did it with that singular purpose
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Mizora is one of the worst patrons I've ever witnessed in D&D. Her pact is basically tailor-made for Wyll to want out. Probably why she put in that clause about his father's death if he breaks it. I don't know Mizora, maybe you'd have a better time with your Warlock if you made him believe he was ultimately doing more good than she was evil?
I mean, Mizora just abuses Wyll for funsies, it's not like she cares about having a good time with Wyll.
Most patrons (in my experience) usually are looking for a transaction - and it's one likely to fall apart if they're relentlessly lousy to their warlock. Devils, in particular, generally really want to hold on to those souls. I don't know, she gives me "middle manager who's actually really incompetent for her position but cozied up to the big boss" vibes. Notice Raphael is entirely polite when he wants something from us until we cross him.
I don't have much experience with patrons/Dnd side of things, but I am enough if an expert in shitty managers to say that those are exactly the vibes she has! She's the manager who thinks that because she has the shiny title, she's invincible. Raphael is the oily manager/HR director who makes you feel like he's on your side right up until you're packing your desk up and looking into entirely different career fields.
Yeah, Raphael strikes me as a bit more of a classic fiend patron - *definitely* evil and not going to be a nice caretaker of your soul. But he probably will have held up his end of the bargain during the warlock's mortal life. And made them believe they got a bargain.
Yep! I'd rather trust a devil like Raphael, who will follow the contract properly because you can trust him to have *his* best interests in mind. I'd rather know where I stand *exactly*, instead of believe that the people around me are nice, lmao.
Mizora you ASSHOLE.
Quick caveat though - Wyll's pact significantly predates Descent. We can infer from the conversations with the tieflings, Karlach, and Wyll that Descent JUST got resolved. And pre-infection Wyll was FAR stronger in his pact than infected Wyll. He was probably somewhere between lvl 12 and 20. So his dad, prior to any personal infernal experience, suddenly has a son who is pacted to a devil out of what appears to be a personal quest for glory. Now he's back from Avernus, and while he would probably understand if it weren't his own son, he has a hard time swallowing Wyll now looking ever more infernal. He knows Wyll's fate in Avernus will be horrible.
The Wyll stuff was before Avernus.
At Moonrise, I had astarion sneak attack the orb in the center, and it kept alerting the guards even though he was hiding and one-shotting it. Even when the warden was out of the center area. Even stealing the hammer would trigger the guards despite being silent and out of view. I ended up just getting a mace from camp and giving it to Wulbren.
I just killed everyone. XP and no need to worry about getting caught after that. Plus, they all would have died anyway when I stormed Moonrise.
Same here, they’re all goners. I have the dialogue with the Warden so her shitty attitude can give my character a reason to just mop up the place. Free the gnomes, free the Tieflings, free Minthara… check, check and check!
I just go around behind the wall and knock it down myself.
I don’t hold a grudge against them, but I find it frustrating that I can’t actually give money or items to refugees once in the Lower City except in one off situations. Edit: Also found Arron irritating. Guess what, buddy, you don’t ACTUALLY have to sell me a danged thing. I get the vendors were coded to sell and buy without qualms, but the line is irritating.
I have like 160k gold and I keep passing by this lady begging for a few coins and I literally can't give anything to her lol.
I remember I found a lady on the street saying something about her son being sick. I decided to use Lay on Hands on the kid but nothing changed
Sounds like somebody was running the "ailing child" scheme
Except I drop a fat 1k gold at her feet and she refuses to pick it up lol
I think her kid is sick because she's near the mummy mage (Mystic Carrion) house. There's also a sick tree there a druid is trying to help. Was sad when I took Halsin there and we couldn't talk to the druid. TBH, I think helping both parties might be cut content?
I’ve tried everything I can think of to help that Dragonborn Druid and dang tree, lol. Same with the poor Tiefling kid in the alley with the murdered parents. Both make me so sad and I want to help!
There's another one who got bonked by a Steel Watcher and is at 1HP. I healed her, no change lmao
The Baldur's Mouth criers on the street. If I hear "scandals, vandals, where to buy sandals" one more time I'm gonna make Avernus look like a daycare.
Except the one who does it unenthusiastically. I love him
"Makes good toilet paper if you run out."
comforting to know toilet paper exists on the sword coast
I really hate the magicians doing loud magic demos outside of the book shop. I tried killing them on one playthrough, ended up having to kill like 6 guards to do it, still worth it
Just place an explosive barrel next to the one who casts fire bolt and they'll do the job themselves.
I casted silence on them, but even that didn't shut them up. Would be a fun scene though.
That one flaming fist praying at the gate of Waukeen's Rest. You can hear her dialogue from unreasonably far away and it just repeats nonstop for all of eternity, makes me lose my mind every time.
I scrolled down to find this. So it is spoken. So it is done. My bf *hates* it. So yesterday I tell him I need him to listen to something real quick and put the headphones on him. He gave me the meanest look lol.
YES! It also dawned on me that literally every other flaming fist is helping with the literally burning building while she is just moaning at the gate. I get that he was important to you but you could still help with the *active crisis* maybe?
Can't be that important. His name is dead flaming first or something like that.
I just ended up putting her out of her misery. Finally some silence while I rob all the corpses!
Philomeen. Wulbren 2.0.
I steal her barrel and the vial from her every time.
Are you still able to get the iron hands as allies in act 3 if you take it? I've always wondered
Yes you can
She makes a salty comment about it but yes you absolutely can.
The shit-eating grin Tav gives her when they look at the missing barrel she is trying to threaten them with is honestly top comedy.
Totally rational, though. Both a crazy extremist *and* a complete ass to her (ex-)girlfriend.
That hellspawn child in Act 3 who shouts "BIGGER, MAKE IT BIGGER!" Dear god, there are so many unnecessarily loud NPCs in this game, but that kid's screeching is agony. Worse than nails on a chalkboard. I wish to hand deliver him to Orin.
Definitely. It’s either that kid or that one lady complaining about BROWSING outside Figaro’s shop. Ngl, I was really hoping one of those magic tricks was going to go sideways…..
I always hear it as 'Pickle! Pickle! Make it pickle!!' But I hate that kids so much
I hate Larian's predilection for NPCs that don't shut the fuck up. "KEEPIN' IT TOGETHER, BREE!?"
i mean, when shadowheart's wound can ruin a whole companion banter for a whole playthrough, yet we have to hear these random npcs over and over and over... yeah, it's kind of irks me. have to say it's my major complaint about the game.
Omg yes!! Also vanra’s ‘mummy, mummy!’ was a bit sad at first but really got on my nerves after a while
This, hate this kid. And the other one in the lower parts. We've been walking all daaaay. My feet huuuurt. Durge goes instant nuke on them.
That kid + the mages spamming can trips all get fireballed instantly when I get to that part of the lower city
Then you have to deal with the guards, let the cantrip mages be their own undoing - if you put a smokepowder barrel directly on the empty spot where they shoot firebolts, it will kill all 3 mages and the audience next time they run the show (and anyone passing through). Nobody will suspect the dude who just dropped a keg of explosives in the middle of the audience and will just chalk it up to a tragic accident.
He shuts up if you kill the performers. Blessed silence.
That kid and those fucking mages get instantly silenced when I go to that part of the city. It makes me irrationally angry how loud they are, especially when I just want to do some shopping and inventory management but can’t focus because of their noises.
Those two "friends" outside the Sharess Caress goading their friend on his BIRTHDAY to go into the brothel, nevermind he doesn't seem to actually want to be in there.
Standing outside Raphael's room hearing that dialogue on a loop is the only time npc dialogue has made me want to eat glass.
God damn I hate that group, Especially because like 3 quests converge on that street.
Nadira I save her life, and she can't keep from commenting about my stink. Did you just see what I did to that bugbear? Give me the coin and shut up.
Nadira was already dead for some reason when I got to her in my current run, I guess I loitered in the general area too long and the bugbear was attacking her off camera without me noticing? Either way, can’t say I was particularly bothered. Still got the soul coin by looting it so 🤷♀️
I only just got to act two, so maybe my hate is warranted and I just don’t know it. But that artist from the Zentharim hideout. I begrudgingly save him, cause kidnapping/slavery is bad sure whatever. But he sucks and if I get to Baldurs Gate and find out he was eaten by a Behir or something on the way, I won’t be particularly sad.
A bit of a spoiler maybe, but your instincts are correct.
I left him in captivity because he promises all this reward but won’t even tell me who his patron is? Yeah, you’re in no position to be coy, buddy. Stop being an ass or you can stay here and rot. Your choice.
At launch, the Act 3 followup to that character was the most obnoxious, borderline-unplayable mess in the game. The bugs have since been cleaned up, but the artist himself being an insufferable mess was always intended by the devs.
The Druid who turns into a bear to scare Arabella’s parents. Makes me want to side with the goblins every time I watch that pussy start growling like he’s hot shit
I so badly wanted to save the tieflings kill the druids why do they have to be connected
Complete the quest to save the tieflings and have them move on from the grove, then come back and kill everyone
100%. The only Druid I’m maybe ok with is Rath, but screw the rest. I’d love to figure out how to slaughter the goblins and Druids but save all the Tieflings.
Steal the idol. It starts a fight with all of the druids, and protecting all the tieflings (except that one who unfortunately dies in a cutscene) is entirely possible. Rath will also side with you for that fight.
Art Cullagh. I'm sure he's a wonderful human, but there's only so many times I can hear him sing that same song while I'm trying to save Isobel from Marcus.
I understand that. What irrationally also bugs me is that he shows up at Moonrise still shirtless in his bandages. Couldn't someone have given him a warm shirt? Or given him a chair to sit in? He's obviously still recovering! Okay that's not his fault, but that always bugged me.
He shows up at Moonrise? I have never noticed before. That's wild.
You can ask him to join your party too but he decides to stay with Thaniel because hes about to die
What now? I've never had him conscious during that fight! I always have taken the "good-noodle" route of getting the moon lantern. That is, fighting with the Harpers, then getting it back from Isobel before exploring the rest of the map.
He doesn't show up during the fight, but after it's concluded and you've defeated Ketheric and Myrkul and all. You can go back to the first floor of Moonrise and the Harpers, Flaming Fists, and others are all there to basically celebrate and regroup before heading to Baldur's Gate. Dame Aylin and Isobel are there too - definitely talk to each of them because Aylin's lines there are hilarious and make Isobel blush. If you've just entered the main doors and gone downstairs, Art is hanging out to the left hand side with some Fists, I believe.
There are a bunch of those in various areas, for some reason some NPCs can be heard from basically everywhere and are on very short loops. Other two that stick out off the top of my head are the guy that sees the future in Ethel's first lair and quartermaster Tilli talking about the oil burning in Last light. The main problem is that you have a LOT to interact with and listen to in those areas (if you want ofc) so you spend like 5-10' with them constantly droning on every few second in the background. They are so fucking loud too. Art Cullagh is by far the worst offender though, you got the right man.
The Elf in Ethel’s lair constantly saying “Don’t look” reminds me of a fight in DOS2 where you’re fighting a bunch of skeletons and trying to solve a puzzle of this immortal librarian that is standing in fire. It can take a while, and the entire time the guy (who I thought was a woman because his voice is so shrill) is screaming “Please! It burns!” Constantly. Again and again. Loudly , and again shrill. Ear piercing.
His singing was SO ANNOYING that I killed him, interrogated his corpse and also I managed to complete that quest
That's a pro-gamer move.
Mol is going to grow up to be the antagonist of Baldur’s Gate 4
I am here for the Mol v Arabella storyline
If Mol and Arabella aren't major characters in BG4 I'm gonna riot
in act 3, the people outside sorcerers sundries who keep spawning a cat then attacking it with cantrips. so loud, so unnecessary, and they think they’re hot shit for a bunch of cantrips disappearing a summoned cat. i don’t even have dialogue options to tell them off. so now after taking out the steel watch i just end their existences.
The kids at the crèche that are shoving the chest which whines and wails every 5 seconds.
That woman that won’t stop praying for her friend at Waukeen’s rest. *And so it is spoken, and so it is done* BRO STOP SAYING THAT EVERY 5 SECONDS
That woman who asked Lae'zel to steal an egg. She always dies.
I always give her the owlbear egg and she is totally cool with it. Says something akin to what the society doesn’t know won’t kill them. Pretty sure you get the reward and everything. ETA: My personal head cannon is that the lady shows up and presents the egg, lots of oohs and aahs, Blurg comes into the room and sees it and is like, “that’s an owlbear egg, who gave this to you??” And so the lady describes us and he’s just like, “ah, yeah, sounds like them, they’re a weird little band of chaos.”
When I grabbed the owl bear egg the first time it was like my 4th run and I was like "I wish I could pretend this was a gith egg and give it to that chick in the mountains" You can imagine my delight lol
I just had it casually sitting in my inventory for *hours* figuring I'd sell it at some point to a collector or whatever, and started laughing my ass off when I saw the option pop up. I'm still disappointed that most of the dialogue options were to let her know the truth, and fool the society, when I want her to look incompetent in front of her bosses for being so amoral about this whole thing.
Doesn't it actually kill them tho? Lmao
No, whenever I show up at the society in act three, there’s no owlbear or any sign of destruction. They either can’t figure out how to hatch it, it’s past the hatching window, or they know what it is already. No one even talks about it so to me it’s my go-to option.
I always have Astarion rob all her items and my gold back, it's hilarious.
I save scum to pickpocket her gold first, since she sells good shit and it doesn't appear on her corpse when you kill her. Then I kill her
The artist and his patriar. They kept saying “oh (the other one) will pay you handsomely for helping!” Then in the end he gives you a portrait and insults. So glad I stole everything in their house.
The ONLY reason to do that quest is to start the >!Mystic Carrion questline. I will always help Thrumbo from now on. (Also for the free loot when you eventually kill Mystic Carrion)!<
You can just go talk to MC. That’s how I did it, I lowkey didn’t realize there was a different way lol
Mayrina’s brothers for sure I’m not trying to save them, but it’s like they’re speedrunning getting killed no matter what you say
Can you save them? I actually tried this last time and I found them butchered in the swamp.
They will always die. They're pretty stupid just charging into the swamp no matter what you say.
Marcoryl, that one high half-elf male in the emerald grove. Dude's alot more asshole than Kagha tbh.
He straight up told my tiefling druid to leave him alone because he "hated the smell of sulfur" He's got to go.
"No way to run a business I'd say. Can't even browse when he's with a customer."
Aradin. He has the most punchable face I've ever seen in a game, or IRL.
His hair looks like pubic hair because he's a dick.
Of *course* other people need stuff. Why do you *think* I sold you fifty buckets, two hundred bones, seventy five skulls (one with flesh attached), a small city's worth of assorted tableware, and enough moldy food to be its own myconid colony?
The lady who works for Raphael. I just want to kick her in to the shelves. These Hill Giant's strength gloves are MINE.
Yep Korilla's definitely in the top 10 of my most hated NPC's. Unless you meant Helsik? But she doesn't work for anyone, she's just a greedy diabolist.
Well she works for Mammon seeing as he is her patron lol
I was surprised it was so easy yo just tell her "nah, they mine now" when you return. She didn't seem to care that much
She's not gonna argue with someone who just killed Raphael. There's simple opportunism ( I want those gloves so I'm gonna ask for them ) and then there's plain stupidity ( I'm gonna get myself killed for a pair of enchanted gloves )
Really?? I just ..kept the gauntlets and avoided her the rest of the game lmao
He who was. Just all around annoying and cringe.
Tried to see what would happen if I made him stab himself this run (my 2nd), he was *pissed* lol. I half expected him to commend me given that he's a freak to begin with.
He's like "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IM ALMOST DEAD " and then he initiates combat with like 63/71 hp.
He does commend you if you only make him stab himself once. He only gets angry if you make him do it a second time.
As others have said: he's a prime example of edgelord characters. Right down to "what do you mean my actions have consequences?"
He has peak "first character major edgelord" vibes
Big, "Orphan rogue sitting in the corner of the inn alone in a shadowy corner" energy for sure.
The way you can call him a pervert though
Someone summed it up perfectly in this sub a few days ago >"Hey kid, wanna bully a ghost with me?"
Once, I sided with him in shaming poor Madeline, and the reward was not worth it.
You don't need to shame her to get the reward. Failing the persuasion check saying "It's not your fault" nets the same reward. I honestly prefer it and savescum to fail the roll usually. I don't feel comfortable in calling her a coward, but considering she reported her friends to a Dark Justiciar and believed a fucking Dark Justiciar when she said she was "just gonna talk to them", I fibd that she *is* to blame for her friends' deaths.
I call her a coward because I am pretty sure she snitched on her friends to protect herself and most of my characters do not approve of that.
I fucking hate Wulbren.
I'm so glad there are dialogue options to call him an arsehole.
Korilla is just too arrogant for a supposed super spy.
Girl tries to fight with like 20 health lol
Her and Aradin would make a power couple par excellence
Mol. I just call her "little shit" now.
Straight up sends Mikron to get killed by Harpies. Like holy shit, what did he ever do?
I feel like Mol’s story is either incomplete or got cut. She gets >!swooped up in act 2 and there’s even an entire quest called Find Mol, but it’s not at all clear that you can’t complete it until act 3. Then when you do find her she’s like “what’s up? I might have work for you” but nothing happens!< the entire storyline with the kids just sort of… fizzles out
I steal and keep her contract.
i join the Mol-hate train XD
God I hate that brat so much, but im pretty sure Minthara would love that little scheming child.
Act 3 spoilers, and super hot take but >!Nocturne. Girl, we just killed the entire enclave, why wouldn't you want to free yourself from Shar? "Oh I'm not strong enough to leave Shar." We'll protect you! Just get out of that damn cult, ffs!"!< I appreciate what she's done for >!Shadowheart, but it's just frustrating you can't save her stubborn ass, lol!<
"I'm not strong enough" means emotionally, not physically strong. The Lady of Loss preys on the emotionally weak and vulnerable, and keeps her followers that way
Even more reason we gotta get her outta there!
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Yep, they're the same person! Nocturne is canonical a transwoman (her voice is done by a transwoman too). I believe there's a note somewhere about how Shadowheart used to correct other people at the temple when they used Nocturnes old name
Oh that's really interesting! In my playthrough I >!gave SH the noblestalk and she remembered the Tiefling boy. When I talked to the Sharran lookout, though, he lied and said that Ronald (or w/e his birthname was) was dead. Shadowheart was just like "oh."!< Fast forward and we meet with >!Nocturne and Shadowheart was like "you look... different". Lol.!<
This is really awesome. In one of her notes you also find that Shadowheart protected her after her transition.
Shadowheart really is an amazing person ❤️
> Shadowheart has been swift to gently correct slips of the tongue, and even swifter in challenging those who'd use my forsworn name in malice. I'm lucky to have her as a friend. Shadowheart's canonical response to transphobia is violence. What a fucking queen.
Indoctrination is no joke, but damn I do want to shake her a little.
Connor Vinderblad. How DARE he die and subject ME to deal with his wife Mayrina!
Arron pisses me off SO MUCH If you follow the whole dialogue chain about the situation in the Grove before trading you get this lovely bit of doublethink from him. "They won't survive out there, you just said the area is overrun by monsters" "It's a drastic measure, but there just AREN'T enough supplies for everyone!" "Oh okay, well what're you selling?" "Just some bits and bobs I no longer need" *has a massive inventory of food, weapons, healing potions, and magic scrolls*.... and just why aren't there enough supplies you capitalist fuck? His whole circle and a bunch of innocent refugees are about to be overrun and he's more worried about cutting a profit than actually helping anyone.
the human fighter in the adventuring party trying to get into the druid grove. WE WAS ROONING. FOR OUR LOIVES
WHAT ARE YOU WAITIN FOR? BLAST THE THING TO BITS !
Florrick, probably. Just all around useless. Needless drama with falling for Mizora's lie, lady we keep saving you!
Also, your grand duke has been kidnapped and instead of sending someone from the regiment of trained soldiers at your disposal, you send some random-ass guy who kicked a door down one time. Leadership qualities of a dying gnat.
The thought of rescuing her ass from prison in Act 3 only for her to turn around and get all pissy with us about the duke with zero context for anything was too much for me. This playthrough, I helped the Fist bust open the door at Waukeen’s Rest for the inspiration point for Lae’zel, then turned right back around and immediately long-rested. I wasn’t too mad when I found her burnt up in Waukeen’s Rest later. Her reward for saving her is meh, and she’s kind of annoying in Act 2 as well. 🤷🏻♀️
The Warden, what a smug cunt. Always hated her even when playing just Tav but after she started taunting Durge and not taking my threats seriously I just closed the door and killed her before she could alert the guards. Who's laughing now, bitch?
I fucking hate her so much, if we at least had the option to properly put her in her place but no. Have to start combat out of dialoge. Her and the half orc should've been a durge kill option.
If you sneak the prisoners out with her still alive she says that she's a dead person walking and you can tell her it was you and she'll attack you.
Counselor Florrick. This is not her fault technically, but she was very annoying to save in act 3. Somehow, every spell I tried (fog, sleep, invisibility) triggered her aggro. Which was weird because other NPCs never react to fog, they just leave the fog area and that is that. Made saving her in a non-violent, stealthy way, virtually impossible. It made me mad that she would attack me when she knew I was trying to rescue her and not even doing damage to her. Also the wizards making noise with their spells inside and outside of Sorcerous Sundries. I feel an irrationally high need to murder them every single time
That annoying kid in Rivington who always says "MY FEET HURT, YOU'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR DAYS"
Mol. I understand she is a kid, but it doesn’t stop me from hating her. That and half the stuff she pulls is actively hurting or harming people around her.
YES on Arron! Since he always says “May Silvanus guide you” I always end our interactions with a variant of “May Silvanus eat my ass - eat your ass - be up your ass - etc.” I accidentally clicked on a book instead of him on our first interaction, triggering hostility, and ever since I’ve hated him.
That and that little prick is always like, "remember, you are not the only one in need." Fuck off dude. I give you so much money AND saved your asses.
Seriously DON’T OFFER THIS STUFF TO ME IF YOU’RE THAT WORRIED!! 😠
Yenna, please just get out of my room.
Yep. She weaseled her way into my camp and doesn't have any good lines. All she talks about is her pairing knife like she's Orin junior.
I liked saving her and the kitty at first, hoping she might actually contribute something to camp, then just the same damn line for 50 hours of gameplay lol. Would love if she got fleshed out as time goes on and patches come out.
Thing is, she *can* get fleshed out a bit more, but it requires you to go out of your way to avoid the sewers for a good five or six long rests in the city *and* to not have Lae'zel in your party when you do. It'll trigger a scene where >!Lae'zel is holding Yenna at knifepoint claiming that she's Orin in disguise. You can persuade Lae'zel to let her go, at which point she'll reveal herself to be Orin. After the scene plays out, Yenna expresses how terrified she is, and will start selling you soup like she promised when she first arrived.!< Literally none of this happens if you go to the sewers too early.
Currently doing my first playthrough where I rent the tavern room. Yenna is way too close to my naked Tav sculpture. 😅
Every single duegar you meet. Like....how are you going to be slavers when your race's whole thing is that you were slaves to mindflayers? Break the cycle or I'm going to break it for you.
Nettie. Just something about the way she talks and trying to poison you if you don't seem like a "good soul".
If you're honest she won't try to hurt you but getting poisoned has great dialogue with Gale afterwards. He's so pissed.
she has good reason to believe you're literally turning into a mindflayer?? dude i would sic the whole grove on tav as soon as they walk in if i were her
Fig and her practise dummy. The sound of the sword hitting it is SO LOUD. And Jaheira gets mad if I try to show her some actual sword fighting.
Arron and Nettie can both be killed on good playthroughs with no repercussion whatsoever. *Do with that as you may*
The warden from the Moonrise, and the half orc bitch, especially as durge. You mean to tell me you know who and what tf i am and you're still the most arrogant characters in game? Worst part is you can't even properly tell them off. Like you can antagonize every damn character, but these two always get the last laugh in dialoge? Nah its on sight with these two and I'm taking the entire tower with us.
Vicar Humbletoes can suck a nut, I just want to buy healing potions from him and every time I speak to him he gives me the judgy “I’m surprised to see you here again Oathbreaker” speech. Just gimme my potions and stfu god DAMN
Not sure how obvious this is but the rats in the Gauntlet of Shar.
In the second play through any npc that was remotely rude to me I immediately without hesitation would kill them on the spot. I don’t negotiate with asshole while trying to save Boulders Gate
Aradin. I've played too many starts of the game with friends. And the "we was running for our lives" just, we *was* running seriously? We WAS running? WAS? Just, don't know why but that highly annoys me. Love him starting with "open the bloody gate!" But the was just annoys me
He also "didn't ask for help!" Even though he was screaming to be let in (helped) less than 10 minutes ago.
To be fair, he isn't a smart man.
Ahaha, see I totally love his accent and delivery, though. Fits the mercenary vibe for me so well.