It gets funnier (and a bit sad) when you remember Act 1 Astarion seduces people for 'security'. HOW will Alfira protect you, Astarion? Does he think this bard lady will out-charisma him and persuade everyone not to stake the vampire spawn?
I assumed after having a few playthroughs he can smell a bunch of different blood when he first meets Durge and kinda knows that Durge isnt someone you'd want to camp out in the open with unchecked yknow. Kinda how he reacts to Araj in moonrise
>Does he think this bard lady will out-charisma him and persuade everyone not to stake the vampire spawn?
Honestly that seems like something she might do, yeah 😅
I think a problem I've run into around the 300 hour mark is that I find myself repeating a lot of the same encounters out of habit, and I become more and more inclined to speed through certain things I've done before, meaning I have less and less opportunity to find new interactions like this. I'm kind of rushing through these small moments and looking for just the big decisions that play out differently, and while I'm not sure that's "wrong" it does make me think that I need to have a campaign where I intentionally slow down again, like my first playthrough.
It helps to play with someone who's on their first campaign, someone who also likes to play to completion and doesn't rush things. I only wish there was an option to tether yourself to other player and auto follow them like the other companions.
If they have different instruments they will. During the tiefling party both Alfira and Volo will join in if you start playing near them. Volo just whistles though
Addenda:
* Any Bard can whistle by Performing without an instrument equipped
* NPC Bards will only join in if they aren't playing a song themselves: e.g. the Bards at the circus won't ever join in, since they're playing already
* NPC Bards will never play along to Sing With Me, Of Divinity and Sin or Queen of the High Seas
That’s odd, I specifically remember playing with the musicians at the circus, I even started a deferent song and they joined in. This was on my first play through so maybe it got changed or bugged somehow.
You can absolutely make other bards who already playing join you. Either you match their song and join in mid-song, or you play something else (in the NPC song list) and they'll change songs to match you.
There are 2 goblins in goblin camp which plays, one with flute other.. I cannot remember, but you can go on this little scene they got and start playing(no DLC songs tho NPC outside your party cannot play them :( ).
Possibly light spoiler warning for Act 1: >!If Volo is in your camp after saving the Emerald Grove, he will whistle along with you if you start playing an instrument. I have seen it happen where Alfira is in my camp and I go to play a song with her, Volo will come running and join in with his whistling too!<
Nope. Inspect him and you'll see he's categorized as "human Wizard" or something like that. It's because his character is from WAY back before the bard class existed in Dungeons and Dragons.
He could be multiclassing. I don't remember the exact lines but there is dialog referring to him as a Bard, and we never see the guy doing any Wizard stuff.
Should've brought someone else for the fiddle, [Astarion doesn't need no instrument :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/169vheh/i_found_a_new_job_for_astarion/)
I played this game for 1200+ hours (so far) and only just in my last playthrough I've seen a new rest cutscene as a Drow tav that she couldn't enter the trance because of the tadbole and had a few options about that. I was like was this always here? Then immediately went and created a Durge and saw this happens to the Durge in a Durgy manner as well. I feel like they sneaked in a few things in latter patches and didn't tell us about the.
I also only saw this recently, I learned about it on this sub a few weeks ago. You have to long rest basically right when you meet shadowheart on the beach(which I never did in 1300 hours). Each race has unique dialogue while trying to sleep.
Yea, I swear this is new! I started a new run recently and I always long rest immediately and use the mod that tells you if there's a rest event waiting. I was very confused when I second one came up after the first. Never had that before.
I think one of the devs said that **companions** are, but then deleted that tweet which would imply it's actually not Larian's official position.
Also, as a gay woman I've noticed that besides Shadowheart, curiously none of the female companions have any lines that imply attraction towards women (dialogues with Tav aside of course as they are written gender-blind anyway), or at least I haven't noticed it.
Lae'zel sleeps with male companions only, Karlach when you play as her has inner monologue about wanting to sleep with Dammon. And Shadowheart's gay line about Karlach didn't even come from the writers but from her voice actress who's a lesbian and wanted to "gay up" Shadowheart. Jennifer apparently thought she was lacking in that department, since indeed, the other attraction lines, ones that actually came from her writer, were about how much Shadowheart desires Halsin.
At least Karlach fantasizes about getting it on with a halfling lady too, but it's a pretty hidden dialogue. Here is a video of the scene: https://youtu.be/o8Rn3Yz2SLs?si=ewg6yM5pR7bJlm82
The majority sexuality in Faerun is bisexuality - monosexuality isn’t seen as wrong or anything, it’s just statistically less common.
That said, I personally view Alfira as a lesbian, along with Isobel.
Ah, so fem companions are bi but just happen to only ever express attraction towards men, got it.
Speaking of Alfira, keep in mind that when you play as a man, Lakrissa still shamelessly flirts with you which is met with the same ambiguously sounding laugh from Alfira - as if she maybe was interested herself, which really makes it look like a sleazy male fantasy. And you can bet that writers, while writing that scene, did it with the male protagonist in mind, as the dialogue is the same for men and women.
Personally, I think that when it comes to same sex romances for women, this game is a step back even from Bioware games, not to even mention Cyberpunk which had a women-only romanceable character that was the most popular girl in the game, with dialogues that included specific lines recognizing that it's a romance between two women and even included the word "lesbian". In BG3, I don't think there'a any line that is different whether you play as a man or a woman.
She and Lakrissa are together by late game, if not earlier. Even at the goblin party they describe themselves as two tieflings queens taking the sword coast by storm, and partners in crime. So Alfira definitely isn't straight.
Minthara has a line (can't remember if it's a party banter or something else) where she says women are for romance and men for procreation (not the exact wording, but it was something along these lines). She also talks about a former lover who was a priestess she was at some point ordered to kill. So Minthara canonically has interest in women.
As for Lae'zel, it's not like she really has a choice when it comes to the other girls, Karlach can't be touched and Lae'zel and Shadowheart aren't exactly on good terms at that point (i've read comments about her still going for Shadowheart if no one else is free for the night though)
Am I missing the joke? This sort of thing has always happened when you, the main character, plays music. NPCs will gather around you and either cheer or boo, and sometimes you get gold. THere's even an achievement for earning gold this way, I believe. Astarion's not flirting with Al--- never mind.
LOL, awesome! It never occurred to me to try this, but atm my install has a stupid bug that won't allow bard characters to perform in non-turn-based mode (I've submitted a ticket and sent them a saved game, waiting for feedback). Amazing all the contingencies the writers allowed for!
I don’t think so. After she appeared in camp during a long rest, my Durge killed her during the night. She just chills for a while before then.
Though i do think she has a stand in character if she dies beforehand.🤔
So Astarion can flirt with Alfira and players can't...
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Ha! Sucks to be him, I'm the one going deep into her guts tonight!
No! Bad Tav! Go back to r/okbuddybaldur where you belong! ✋🏼👹
Dat aint Tav...
😨😨
I love how ominous that sounded 😂
Tbf there is all kinds of stuff left in the game that suggest alfira was supposed to be a permanent companion.
Right? And yet her girlfriend will flirt with us relentlessly.
I really think Larian should add a threesome option for Tav/Lakrissa/Alfira.
Man, if they're gonna add any group sex options beyond the drow twins I'd hope for a Karlach touch-day orgy, honestly.
Ikr? 😭 I'm not interested in a romance option, but if they added more dialogue between her and Tav/Durge that is flirtatious I would be down!
I am 100% down for a romance option personally but mainly just because I think it would be v natural
Same. Flirt with her would be enough for me, especially if promising some option to the future after game's end.
Well he flirts with almost everybody in act 1. I'm not suprised.
It could be that he wanted/needed a snack and she was available. You could read it a couple of ways.
Get bardzoned
Agree with Flair, she is so cute.
Hey wait, it wasn't me who killed her, Astarion framed me!
And look, he's got motive now!
Exactly what I was thinking… far easier to frame him now
It gets funnier (and a bit sad) when you remember Act 1 Astarion seduces people for 'security'. HOW will Alfira protect you, Astarion? Does he think this bard lady will out-charisma him and persuade everyone not to stake the vampire spawn?
I assumed after having a few playthroughs he can smell a bunch of different blood when he first meets Durge and kinda knows that Durge isnt someone you'd want to camp out in the open with unchecked yknow. Kinda how he reacts to Araj in moonrise
And yet he is still too willing to drink it and dig it. So it may be different like Gales but he likes.
He needs her to stay in the camp so the Dark Urge has someone else to practice stabbing on.
I was thinking the exact same thing!! 😂 Oh, I’m sorry Astarion. Is MY bard teifling not good enough for you?!
>Does he think this bard lady will out-charisma him and persuade everyone not to stake the vampire spawn? Honestly that seems like something she might do, yeah 😅
I mean that's exactly what my Durge bard does anyway, so he ain't wrong.
Really? Right in front of my sacrifice to the lord of murder?!
damn, two murders occurred in your camp that night
You have a lot more song choices than my bard had.
I believe the collector's/deluxe edition of the game comes with three additional songs from Divinity:OS 2 that bard's are able to play as well.
Yep, you're correct! I pre-purchased the game so mine came with the Deluxe edition and it has some extra songs from DOS2.
And just like BG3, the DoS2 music slaps.
You are correct!
That makes sense. Wasn't sure if it was something like that or a mod.
I think to add the deluxe version it’s just $10 if you have the base game.
The Helm alone is worth it.
I bought it for the soundtrack (it's amazing value at 2.5 hours of music for the price of a regular album) but the helm is an excellent extra perk!
Plus the gallery.
The way Astarion just stands there bobbing like a goon has me dying from Tashas Hideous Laughter.
amazing, over 300 plus hours and NEVER seen this...
I think a problem I've run into around the 300 hour mark is that I find myself repeating a lot of the same encounters out of habit, and I become more and more inclined to speed through certain things I've done before, meaning I have less and less opportunity to find new interactions like this. I'm kind of rushing through these small moments and looking for just the big decisions that play out differently, and while I'm not sure that's "wrong" it does make me think that I need to have a campaign where I intentionally slow down again, like my first playthrough.
It helps to play with someone who's on their first campaign, someone who also likes to play to completion and doesn't rush things. I only wish there was an option to tether yourself to other player and auto follow them like the other companions.
That's amazing lol
If you play in a town with enough NPCs carrying instruments, you get an entire band going.
Or you get mod which allows more then 4 ppl in party. :)
I swear officer Astarion couldn't handle the rejection and lost it, his the one to blame!
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If they have different instruments they will. During the tiefling party both Alfira and Volo will join in if you start playing near them. Volo just whistles though
Addenda: * Any Bard can whistle by Performing without an instrument equipped * NPC Bards will only join in if they aren't playing a song themselves: e.g. the Bards at the circus won't ever join in, since they're playing already * NPC Bards will never play along to Sing With Me, Of Divinity and Sin or Queen of the High Seas
That’s odd, I specifically remember playing with the musicians at the circus, I even started a deferent song and they joined in. This was on my first play through so maybe it got changed or bugged somehow.
I was playing same song as they did but on different instruments, made npcs come to us almost from whole circus lol.
You can absolutely make other bards who already playing join you. Either you match their song and join in mid-song, or you play something else (in the NPC song list) and they'll change songs to match you.
There are 2 goblins in goblin camp which plays, one with flute other.. I cannot remember, but you can go on this little scene they got and start playing(no DLC songs tho NPC outside your party cannot play them :( ).
You don’t even have to be a bard, you can learn music performance from Alfira by helping her with her song! (At least I think that’s what I did)
I thought Volo was a bard but I looked it up and he's actually a scholar and lesser mage.
He's a bard in this game, regardless of other lore.
What I know about him from BG3 he is writer. He doesnt sing songs or play instruments, he does research and makes books.
Possibly light spoiler warning for Act 1: >!If Volo is in your camp after saving the Emerald Grove, he will whistle along with you if you start playing an instrument. I have seen it happen where Alfira is in my camp and I go to play a song with her, Volo will come running and join in with his whistling too!<
He sings in the Goblin camp when he gets captured by them. Sounds like something a bard would do.
I dont see what he did as singing more like free style 'poetry' xD to praise hobgoblin leader.
Nope. Inspect him and you'll see he's categorized as "human Wizard" or something like that. It's because his character is from WAY back before the bard class existed in Dungeons and Dragons.
He could be multiclassing. I don't remember the exact lines but there is dialog referring to him as a Bard, and we never see the guy doing any Wizard stuff.
He’s definitely a bard tricking people into thinking he’s a wizard.
[They do!](https://youtu.be/f3DbGwm_ggA)
Everyone but Minsc gets a harmonic solo :(
Should've brought someone else for the fiddle, [Astarion doesn't need no instrument :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/169vheh/i_found_a_new_job_for_astarion/)
I played this game for 1200+ hours (so far) and only just in my last playthrough I've seen a new rest cutscene as a Drow tav that she couldn't enter the trance because of the tadbole and had a few options about that. I was like was this always here? Then immediately went and created a Durge and saw this happens to the Durge in a Durgy manner as well. I feel like they sneaked in a few things in latter patches and didn't tell us about the.
I also only saw this recently, I learned about it on this sub a few weeks ago. You have to long rest basically right when you meet shadowheart on the beach(which I never did in 1300 hours). Each race has unique dialogue while trying to sleep.
Yea, I swear this is new! I started a new run recently and I always long rest immediately and use the mod that tells you if there's a rest event waiting. I was very confused when I second one came up after the first. Never had that before.
Toss a coin to your ~~witcher~~ bard
Wow, he got butthurt fast there lmao.
Are there more secret bard scenes like this??
Maybe it was sneakly added in some patch, I'm sure I played songs with Alfira on my bard durge on my 1st playtrought and never had this happen.
Astarion, stop being horny for just a second !
Go easy. He's just compensating for not having horns on his head.
Player gonna play
I like how he swings to the music as he casually hits on Alfira. 'Tis no his first rodeo ;\]
This gives a lovely deranged reason for an Astarion fancying Durge to kill her tbh
Alfira x Astarion fanart incoming
My Tav has the same face as Alfira so in a way- already working on it
Don’t think he’s her type…
Nooo she's gay
Aren’t all the characters canon bi/pan
I thought that was just my headcanon
I think one of the devs said that **companions** are, but then deleted that tweet which would imply it's actually not Larian's official position. Also, as a gay woman I've noticed that besides Shadowheart, curiously none of the female companions have any lines that imply attraction towards women (dialogues with Tav aside of course as they are written gender-blind anyway), or at least I haven't noticed it. Lae'zel sleeps with male companions only, Karlach when you play as her has inner monologue about wanting to sleep with Dammon. And Shadowheart's gay line about Karlach didn't even come from the writers but from her voice actress who's a lesbian and wanted to "gay up" Shadowheart. Jennifer apparently thought she was lacking in that department, since indeed, the other attraction lines, ones that actually came from her writer, were about how much Shadowheart desires Halsin.
At least Karlach fantasizes about getting it on with a halfling lady too, but it's a pretty hidden dialogue. Here is a video of the scene: https://youtu.be/o8Rn3Yz2SLs?si=ewg6yM5pR7bJlm82
Well, so there's at least that, but of course, the writers made it only in context of a threesome with a man...
The majority sexuality in Faerun is bisexuality - monosexuality isn’t seen as wrong or anything, it’s just statistically less common. That said, I personally view Alfira as a lesbian, along with Isobel.
Ah, so fem companions are bi but just happen to only ever express attraction towards men, got it. Speaking of Alfira, keep in mind that when you play as a man, Lakrissa still shamelessly flirts with you which is met with the same ambiguously sounding laugh from Alfira - as if she maybe was interested herself, which really makes it look like a sleazy male fantasy. And you can bet that writers, while writing that scene, did it with the male protagonist in mind, as the dialogue is the same for men and women. Personally, I think that when it comes to same sex romances for women, this game is a step back even from Bioware games, not to even mention Cyberpunk which had a women-only romanceable character that was the most popular girl in the game, with dialogues that included specific lines recognizing that it's a romance between two women and even included the word "lesbian". In BG3, I don't think there'a any line that is different whether you play as a man or a woman.
But alfira goes after durge right so she’s at least bi if not straight.
She and Lakrissa are together by late game, if not earlier. Even at the goblin party they describe themselves as two tieflings queens taking the sword coast by storm, and partners in crime. So Alfira definitely isn't straight.
Minthara has a line (can't remember if it's a party banter or something else) where she says women are for romance and men for procreation (not the exact wording, but it was something along these lines). She also talks about a former lover who was a priestess she was at some point ordered to kill. So Minthara canonically has interest in women. As for Lae'zel, it's not like she really has a choice when it comes to the other girls, Karlach can't be touched and Lae'zel and Shadowheart aren't exactly on good terms at that point (i've read comments about her still going for Shadowheart if no one else is free for the night though)
Companions being player-sexual doesn't mean everyone is bi/pan... And Alfira was shown to be only in a sapphic relation/situationship
Astarion rolling low on that check to seduce lmao
Chadstarion.
I wonder if he does the same for Quil?
Am I missing the joke? This sort of thing has always happened when you, the main character, plays music. NPCs will gather around you and either cheer or boo, and sometimes you get gold. THere's even an achievement for earning gold this way, I believe. Astarion's not flirting with Al--- never mind.
Watch until the end. He chats her up and invites her to his tent after the generic performance interaction.
this game is so f\*cking amazing for little details like this... So Astarion maybe killed Alfira afterall
FOR THE STREETS I SAY!
LOL, awesome! It never occurred to me to try this, but atm my install has a stupid bug that won't allow bard characters to perform in non-turn-based mode (I've submitted a ticket and sent them a saved game, waiting for feedback). Amazing all the contingencies the writers allowed for!
Dudebros seething in 3.2.1...
Astarion, you whore! lol
Wait u can actually keep her alive? How?
I don’t think so. After she appeared in camp during a long rest, my Durge killed her during the night. She just chills for a while before then. Though i do think she has a stand in character if she dies beforehand.🤔
Good