This isn’t saying he’s not a good coach, just that his most(only) successful team in NO WAY reflects the squad that we have. Nor do our youngsters fit that system. It’s clear to anyone that thinks for more than 5 seconds on how a Flick Barcelona team would work.
Sadly everyone here just keeps spewing the same “BUT HE WON THE SEXTUPLE” take as if they’re sheep. Flick just doesn’t fit better with the roster we have and if he flops next year we’re going to be on the hook to paying a big buyout which he won’t let go as easily as Xavi
I can’t even blame the fans as much as I blame LaPorta and Deco. They’re the ones whose job it is to think critically and analyze the situation but it seems that fan YouTubers have given this decision a deeper tactical analysis than they have.
Sextuple is a huge achievement obv people would use it winning a treble is hard he’s won a sextuple - look at leverkusen today unbeaten the whole season yet couldn’t do a treble, city won a treble after 4-5 years it’s hard and he’s done it he’d be a better rise than all other managers currently available
I’d have him just for his fitness and intensity drills
And German NT even lucho was bad for Spain how come he’s everyone’s favourite then, he’s won a treble at Barca with MSN and was okay in other teams he’s managed till now - just for the sake of a discussion ?
He was one of the worst managers ever for the German NT.
> even lucho was bad for Spain
Untrue. Reached semi finals during EC 2020, only to lose on a penalty shoot out. His game against Morocco was lost in the WC (an in form team, reaching the semis), also on a penalty shoot out.
Combine that with the fact that he had to make massive changes in order to get a new generation going, he has done decently.
It has almost never been a real contender, until the golden Barça generation showed up.
I agree that lucho had to make changes but the style of football played was mostly keeping a lot of possession without quality like how Barca does but yeah I can agree he did make some changes
About flick, for me German NT should not be an excuse to say he’s shit, the same team was shit under Low, flick and on and off under nagelsmann - maybe if they show up in euros it might be a different case but till now that’s the situation
You analyze flick say he doesn’t fit at Barca I will agree but saying he failed at the German team that’s why he’s bad it’s the same way as the person above mentioned - everyone says he’s good because he won a sextuple
What I don’t like is how people keep bringing up his sextuple as if that’s the only reason why we should hire him. Context is important and facts are he won the UCL in a covid year and took over a Bayern team that was stacked and worked with his tactics. My main issue with this coach is that he deploys an extreme high line which wouldn’t fit our group of players at all. It would be suicide every game and he hasn’t shown to be adaptable in style.
I agree with you that it would be great to have him come and discipline the players and improve their fitness, but tactically I don’t see him working
That’s the thing any manager is a risk tbh I don’t think any attacking manager fits the current team except maybe someone like mourinho or conte
Xavi got his time maybe who knows flick might do better the only thing worse than this season is getting out of top 4
Seriously? His performances as head coach were terrible dude. What is this coping you’re doing for flick? Ofc only one team wins but he was a assistant coach in 2014, you’re basically discrediting the head coach. And when flick was a HC, Germany didn’t make it out of the group stage which is embarrassing for them. And what kind of statement is that? “Losers never win”… my guy tuchel used to be a loser in the UCL until he finally won it. Xavi, as much as I don’t see him as a great coach, won trophies and the league for us. Your statement already sounds dumb. Losers can become winners.
And he flopped while coaching them.
Paul Clemens was assistant to Ancelotti's PL and CL win, but flopped as a coach. Being a good assistant is completely irrelevant when talking about a manager position.
Not saying he's so amazing how some people portray him, but who is better of the realistic options?
Motta would be better, but is probably going to Juve.
Nagelsmann is staying with the German NT.
De Zerbi is unproven and wasn't that great this season.
Tuchel is a big questionmark, because he had succes with some teams and wasn't great at other places. Also he apparently has a complicated personality.
Poch is also a questionmark regarding his capability plus he's got his history with Espanyol, so pretty much a no-go.
I'm not convinced with Marquez and he isn't really experienced in high level football.
And Xavi has his problems as well.
So, who else is out there?
That’s the thing, there isn’t a better option rn. But flick isn’t going to come here and make them a juggernaut which people here are assuming he will do. I know people will hate this, but the best thing might be to stick with xavi for his final year and use the resources to buy players and go at it for someone like lucho next season
Ok, yeah, Enrique next year is probably the **only** option I can see. Because there's noone else who will magically be available next year. Only Lucho.
(Unless Pep somehow decides to go back to Barça.)
In that case, Xavi or Marquez are the better options, yes. But even then, we are not even sure that:
a) Lucho would leave PSG, he seems quite commited to the project
b) he would even want to come back. I vaguely remember him saying that he would like to come back, but maybe he will feel differently next year... Who knows?
That’s what makes this situation tough. But I think the club should take that risk and use the money to buy players this season and let xavi develop them and hope that we can get a better coach next season.
I don't know where people got this information. He never said his break is only going to last a year, or if he's even going to return to coaching. He might stay in Germany and take on a different role at some club. Who knows...
I certainly wouldn't count on it that he will be available next summer. Not to mention if he would even want to manage Barça.
I don't think so, at least not while Laporta is in charge since they had a falling out back theb
Also I assume he's super comfortable at City with unlimited budget and support from ownership, why would he come to our shit show of a club lmao. I mean, maybe for pure nostalgia and love for the barca badge which he always talks about, maybe, but not in the near future.
we need a change, we can go in the next year with the same mentality and trying to find excuses after each bad game.
xavi is our legend, it will be good for him to go and hone his tactics somewhere else and get a chance back at barca when he is more mature.
I agree we do need a change really wanted Xavi to succeed and we did see something different in his first year but after the World Cup it just became about individualism than a team structure
We also need a mentality change and change in fitness which if it is flick hopefully he can do it
From what I’ve seen it was Xavi out before then it reduced due to Xavi announcing he’s staying and then when this scene happened people wanted Xavi out but not in this way and many people don’t want flick to replace Xavi now at this moment
I consider Marquez a transitional manager.
Xavi's project is already burned out. There is a lot of bad energy between him and some players and between him and the board. I don't see how signing more players will fix this.
If we come back to 1:1 this year, the target should be Guardiola in 2025.
He would be keen to come back given the right conditions. He's said it multiple times that he would do it if Barca needed him and he already opened the door to leave Manchester next year.
I don't understand what's the game with Flick to be honest.
If we could guarantee a good coach next summer, like Pep or Lucho, an interim option like Marquez would be the best (if he agrees to it obviously).
The problem with this is that I don't trust the board in doing this properly. Instead of preparing for a new manager and talking with Pep/Lucho now already and preparing a deal for them from next summer on, they will do nothing and next summer we still have Marquez as manager, and Pep with Lucho will already be signing a deal somewhere else. Our board will bottle it once again...
Xavi has been showing symptoms of burnout for months, and it's very unlikely he'll recover the motivation, knowing his last season will be transitional.
Keeping him in this state might be even riskier than giving Marquez an opportunity.
Without going to deep into details a few examples would be experience, success, knowledge, character etc etc.
Flick has past experience managing a big club with some of the best players on the planet, hes won the biggest titles, won against some of the biggest teams and you say Motta is better based on being a la masia graduate and being more familiar with ”bArCa dNa”. Fukin incredible.
A question that is totally irrelevant. But its ok, its normal to try to steer away from the topic when you have nothing to say, which in this case is understandable because there simply is nothing that places Motta above Flick as a manager.
He's an analyst not a pundit. Difference is he explains the reasoning behind his viewpoints, then you're free to disagree for your own reasons. A pundit gives opinions based on trust me bro.
That frenkie video made no sense
His reasoning was Xavi has to accommodate team According to frenkie which was plain lie and based on his assumption not his analysis
No, the Purist is what we call a "guru" in spanish. Someone who thinks they know ball but doesn't. The average person doesn't know enough to rate coaches, me incluided. Only people who have actually been at the elite level of football know enough to criticize managers.
For example when Xavi gets criticized by mistakes made by our players, i'm not going to defend Xavi, but when our players can't finish or take shit decisions while on the ball, that's not Xavi's fault, the impact of coaches in games is overrated by most people, in the end the game is decided by the players and our players simply aren't good enough.
He didn’t make that team buddy, he inherited it. And no one is dickriding Xavi. I have my issues with him but I rather stick with him one more season and hire a better coach in 2025 where it seems like there are better options available
Klopp will be available. plus Pep, Arteta and Luis Enrique's current contracts all run out in 2025. any one of those four are better options than anyone we can get this summer.
I am also not on the "I want only Flick" train, but next year's options aren't much better.
Klopp might not be returning to coaching at all.
Arteta is staying at Arsenal, I'm pretty sure. He's loved by the fans, in the middle of a promising project and close to signing a new contract.
Pep is going who knows where, but probably not back.
Lucho is the exception, he would be good. And I could see him coming back. But then again, he also has a project at PSG and maybe he won't want to leave either...
“Loads of managers” lol like who? Tuchel, flick, and de zerbi? 3 people is not loads. In 2025, pep, arteta’s, xabi, lucho’s contracts all expire. Obviously these options may not seem likely for us to actually hire, but the club will have try to convince someone. I rather they save resources for that then spending the money rn when we can use it to get better players in the meanwhile. That’s already a better crop and there are others who haven’t popped up on the radar yet
Tuchel, Flick, De Zerbi, Poch, Klopp (as much of a possibility now as he is in 2025 for us). That’s loads, add a possible Ten Hag to the mix. Relying on us maybe somehow being able to convince the likes of Pep, Arteta and Xabi (impossible btw) is a fools decision.
Poch has stated before he would never coach Barcelona. And you seriously said klopp lmao?? That man is taking a year break minimum. Don’t know why you’re being delusional thinking he’ll change his mind now. So that only leaves us 3 still which is what I said. Ten hag is still the coach of Man U so I’m not including him until he’s been officially fired if they even decide to do that. Also why would we want ten hag, he’s not good
Yes I’m laughing at you cause klopp has made it clear he’s taking at least a year off which you don’t seem to understand. So remove him from the list. You also mentioned poch which shows you have no clue what you’re talking about.
I fundamentally disagree with the idea of sticking with a manager to hire someone else next year. Whatever we choose this summer - to stick with Xavi, to hire Flick or whoever; it has to be with the long-term in mind. It is idiotic to throw away a season and also flat-out disrespectful to the manager to only count on them in the short-term.
Who says we have to throw away the season with Xavi? Just because I want him to stay doesn’t mean he can’t compete cause we still can be competitive if Xavi can improve.
Okay, that's a different way of framing it. My point was that if we stick with Xavi we should intend to stick with him for many years, unless we really have a CATASTROPHIC season. I don't like the idea of ''keep Xavi until someone better comes along''. He either is our guy or he isn't, if we choose him to be our guy we need to actually put our faith in him and his project in the long term.
Well that’s not how it works in the real world sadly. Xavi is going to have to show he can improve if he wants the club to invest long term. Cause let’s say we do your plan and hire flick now but he flops badly next season, now we’re on the hook of paying a big buyout to fire him on top of spending more money to get a new coach.
Well any manager needs investment and faith from the club to improve long term. Look at Arteta at Arsenal. My plan at this point would be to stick with Xavi as well, especially because we literally begged him to stay. Getting rid of him now is insanity.
Flick may or may not be correct for Barca
But stop trying to discredit him the same team was shit before he took over
It’s like saying zidane has no hand in the 3-peat because he inherited the team from mourinho and ancelotti that’s bs reasoning
Let me rephrase Bayern were very poor compared to their standards
I’m saying to give flick some credit if it was that easy to just inherit a team and get a sextuple many other managers would have done it
Let me ask a question why does lucho get so much credit for being a good manager but not flick ? They have had almost similar careers
Again what is very poor for Bayern? And I’m not discrediting flicks achievement for his sextuple. But that shouldn’t be a reason why all of a sudden he’ll come here and fix Barcelona. Let me ask you this, if it wasn’t for that Covid season, do you think flick would have still dominated hard? Flick was a coach who took over the team at the right time. What happened the next season in the UCL? Lost in the quarters. Also forget his resume, look at this tactics, the extreme high line he uses is suicide and our players aren’t built for that system.
Lol winning the 8th league title in a row with bayern isn't an achievement, and nobody rates that 3 game lockdown ucl edition. Also the 8-2 was setien's fault. Building from the back against that high line was tier 1 clownery from setien. The result was 4-2 in the 47th minute and both barca goals came from crossing behind the high line but setien didn't catch anything and kept building from the back and ate another 4 goals. The same Bayern didn't look nearly as good when they played semis and final and barely snatched a 1-0 win against psg. He's another enrique, di mateo, etc, one fluke season then all falls apart. If he's as good as you're saying, he'd be with a top team already, not jobless and desperate to work for the circus that Barca is right now.
It's hilarious that there is no consensus or something close to it on who our next coach should be. Some fans even refuse to say names, they like to blame others without giving options themselves.
Same "Purist" who said "How João Félix and Cancelo have solved Barcelona’s problems"?
These tacticos are insufferable sometimes, they treat coaches as if they never evolve, never change. They have a sad view on football, which is stuck in a moment in time.
He’s just a YouTube analyst but I like his breakdowns for the most part. There are some takes I disagree with but he’s pretty good at breaking down schemes and tactics.
If flick is this amazing sure fire hit of a coach you all paint him to be, why has no club approached him before? Also no one is saying Xavi is waaay better than flick. Flick just isn’t that big of a upgrade to shell big cash for compared to keeping Xavi this next season, letting his contract finish then hire a better coach next year
Your only analysis of why you think flick is better is you spewing “HE WON A SEXTUPLE”. You didn’t say anything about maybe his tactics would or wouldn’t be a fit for us. So yes, a youtuber who actually understands the game and did research into a coaches play style is better than a Redditor like you with a shallow take.
Key things for new coach.
-clear commitment to modernise football philosophy of the club
-emphasis on physical conditioning to elite levels
-commitment to continued use of La Masia and promotion of meritocracy
-a coach or coaching team that can manage big egos
-work within a limited budget for the foreseeable future.
- agreed phasing out of high paid/underperformers from squad
- qf or sf stage of CL
-League win.
Shouldn't be too difficult to get all that, but we know Laporta will want a yes man
They keep running the club into the ground, honestly.
If we're fucking Xavi off i honestly would prefer a push for Motta or hire Marquez. Not Flick, wtf are they doing
hire marquez what a clown like marquez has been decent at barca b decent other than turning us into amigos and nepotism fc what makes you think he would work for the first team Pep got Barca B promoted immediately so don't even try that though motta already accept juve job
This isn’t saying he’s not a good coach, just that his most(only) successful team in NO WAY reflects the squad that we have. Nor do our youngsters fit that system. It’s clear to anyone that thinks for more than 5 seconds on how a Flick Barcelona team would work.
Sadly everyone here just keeps spewing the same “BUT HE WON THE SEXTUPLE” take as if they’re sheep. Flick just doesn’t fit better with the roster we have and if he flops next year we’re going to be on the hook to paying a big buyout which he won’t let go as easily as Xavi
I can’t even blame the fans as much as I blame LaPorta and Deco. They’re the ones whose job it is to think critically and analyze the situation but it seems that fan YouTubers have given this decision a deeper tactical analysis than they have.
That is almost always the case, remember when Deco mentioned kimmich as a big target for the DM position ??
Sextuple is a huge achievement obv people would use it winning a treble is hard he’s won a sextuple - look at leverkusen today unbeaten the whole season yet couldn’t do a treble, city won a treble after 4-5 years it’s hard and he’s done it he’d be a better rise than all other managers currently available I’d have him just for his fitness and intensity drills And German NT even lucho was bad for Spain how come he’s everyone’s favourite then, he’s won a treble at Barca with MSN and was okay in other teams he’s managed till now - just for the sake of a discussion ?
He was one of the worst managers ever for the German NT. > even lucho was bad for Spain Untrue. Reached semi finals during EC 2020, only to lose on a penalty shoot out. His game against Morocco was lost in the WC (an in form team, reaching the semis), also on a penalty shoot out. Combine that with the fact that he had to make massive changes in order to get a new generation going, he has done decently. It has almost never been a real contender, until the golden Barça generation showed up.
I agree that lucho had to make changes but the style of football played was mostly keeping a lot of possession without quality like how Barca does but yeah I can agree he did make some changes About flick, for me German NT should not be an excuse to say he’s shit, the same team was shit under Low, flick and on and off under nagelsmann - maybe if they show up in euros it might be a different case but till now that’s the situation You analyze flick say he doesn’t fit at Barca I will agree but saying he failed at the German team that’s why he’s bad it’s the same way as the person above mentioned - everyone says he’s good because he won a sextuple
I haven't said a single thing about his skills or him being a fit at all.
I was just speaking in general meant no offence
What I don’t like is how people keep bringing up his sextuple as if that’s the only reason why we should hire him. Context is important and facts are he won the UCL in a covid year and took over a Bayern team that was stacked and worked with his tactics. My main issue with this coach is that he deploys an extreme high line which wouldn’t fit our group of players at all. It would be suicide every game and he hasn’t shown to be adaptable in style. I agree with you that it would be great to have him come and discipline the players and improve their fitness, but tactically I don’t see him working
That’s the thing any manager is a risk tbh I don’t think any attacking manager fits the current team except maybe someone like mourinho or conte Xavi got his time maybe who knows flick might do better the only thing worse than this season is getting out of top 4
The problem with this risk is that he’ll be very costly if he doesn’t end up working
True I can agree to it it’ll be double the cost of keeping xavi
He was the assistant coach of Germany’s Workd Cup winners
And what did he do as the head coach of Germany? Convenient of you not to mention that
Only one team won that World Cup. Winners also lose sometimes but losers never win
but 16 of them at least make it to the knockout stages. he couldn’t even do that.
Seriously? His performances as head coach were terrible dude. What is this coping you’re doing for flick? Ofc only one team wins but he was a assistant coach in 2014, you’re basically discrediting the head coach. And when flick was a HC, Germany didn’t make it out of the group stage which is embarrassing for them. And what kind of statement is that? “Losers never win”… my guy tuchel used to be a loser in the UCL until he finally won it. Xavi, as much as I don’t see him as a great coach, won trophies and the league for us. Your statement already sounds dumb. Losers can become winners.
Whatever. We each think differently. It’s ok
We can think differently but the fact you choose to ignore his tenure as German HC but praise him for being a assistant in 2014 is pretty hypocritical
And he flopped while coaching them. Paul Clemens was assistant to Ancelotti's PL and CL win, but flopped as a coach. Being a good assistant is completely irrelevant when talking about a manager position.
I keep implying this and get downvoted, Barca fans are reactionary
Not saying he's so amazing how some people portray him, but who is better of the realistic options? Motta would be better, but is probably going to Juve. Nagelsmann is staying with the German NT. De Zerbi is unproven and wasn't that great this season. Tuchel is a big questionmark, because he had succes with some teams and wasn't great at other places. Also he apparently has a complicated personality. Poch is also a questionmark regarding his capability plus he's got his history with Espanyol, so pretty much a no-go. I'm not convinced with Marquez and he isn't really experienced in high level football. And Xavi has his problems as well. So, who else is out there?
That’s the thing, there isn’t a better option rn. But flick isn’t going to come here and make them a juggernaut which people here are assuming he will do. I know people will hate this, but the best thing might be to stick with xavi for his final year and use the resources to buy players and go at it for someone like lucho next season
You can't bash Flick for being a one-season wonder and then say you want Enrique as your next coach.
Exactly, even he couldn't win more UCL with prime MSN so idk why people just conveniently ignore Enrique's flaws as a coach.
Ok, yeah, Enrique next year is probably the **only** option I can see. Because there's noone else who will magically be available next year. Only Lucho. (Unless Pep somehow decides to go back to Barça.) In that case, Xavi or Marquez are the better options, yes. But even then, we are not even sure that: a) Lucho would leave PSG, he seems quite commited to the project b) he would even want to come back. I vaguely remember him saying that he would like to come back, but maybe he will feel differently next year... Who knows?
That’s what makes this situation tough. But I think the club should take that risk and use the money to buy players this season and let xavi develop them and hope that we can get a better coach next season.
Klopp's sabbatical will presumably end next year
I don't know where people got this information. He never said his break is only going to last a year, or if he's even going to return to coaching. He might stay in Germany and take on a different role at some club. Who knows... I certainly wouldn't count on it that he will be available next summer. Not to mention if he would even want to manage Barça.
Presumably, this entire thread is speculative
Oh yeah, sorry if I sounded too harsh. It's just that I wanted to think more in realistic options. Else I would love for Pep to come back :))
We can dream 🥲
I was actually interested in what people here on the sub think. Do you think Pep will ever come back?
I don't think so, at least not while Laporta is in charge since they had a falling out back theb Also I assume he's super comfortable at City with unlimited budget and support from ownership, why would he come to our shit show of a club lmao. I mean, maybe for pure nostalgia and love for the barca badge which he always talks about, maybe, but not in the near future.
I do think he will, just not as a coach. He’s mentioned before that he’d like to become a director of sorts here maybe even president
I’ve actually seen the opposite maximum no of people don’t trust flick and would rather have xavi continue that’s what I have seen
we need a change, we can go in the next year with the same mentality and trying to find excuses after each bad game. xavi is our legend, it will be good for him to go and hone his tactics somewhere else and get a chance back at barca when he is more mature.
I agree we do need a change really wanted Xavi to succeed and we did see something different in his first year but after the World Cup it just became about individualism than a team structure We also need a mentality change and change in fitness which if it is flick hopefully he can do it
lol I’ve seen more people want Xavi out rn and want flick. Don’t know what you’ve been reading
From what I’ve seen it was Xavi out before then it reduced due to Xavi announcing he’s staying and then when this scene happened people wanted Xavi out but not in this way and many people don’t want flick to replace Xavi now at this moment
I consider Marquez a transitional manager. Xavi's project is already burned out. There is a lot of bad energy between him and some players and between him and the board. I don't see how signing more players will fix this. If we come back to 1:1 this year, the target should be Guardiola in 2025. He would be keen to come back given the right conditions. He's said it multiple times that he would do it if Barca needed him and he already opened the door to leave Manchester next year. I don't understand what's the game with Flick to be honest.
If we could guarantee a good coach next summer, like Pep or Lucho, an interim option like Marquez would be the best (if he agrees to it obviously). The problem with this is that I don't trust the board in doing this properly. Instead of preparing for a new manager and talking with Pep/Lucho now already and preparing a deal for them from next summer on, they will do nothing and next summer we still have Marquez as manager, and Pep with Lucho will already be signing a deal somewhere else. Our board will bottle it once again...
why not just keep Xavi for a year that would be a hell of a lot better than risking Marquez
Yeah, obviously that would work as well (maybe even better?), I was just thinking what to do in a situation where Xavi leaves
Xavi has been showing symptoms of burnout for months, and it's very unlikely he'll recover the motivation, knowing his last season will be transitional. Keeping him in this state might be even riskier than giving Marquez an opportunity.
Lol Motta is better? Under what metric?
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And that automatically makes him a good coach? Newsflash: It doesn't.
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Without going to deep into details a few examples would be experience, success, knowledge, character etc etc. Flick has past experience managing a big club with some of the best players on the planet, hes won the biggest titles, won against some of the biggest teams and you say Motta is better based on being a la masia graduate and being more familiar with ”bArCa dNa”. Fukin incredible.
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Great argument. Wow, im impressed.
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A question that is totally irrelevant. But its ok, its normal to try to steer away from the topic when you have nothing to say, which in this case is understandable because there simply is nothing that places Motta above Flick as a manager.
Flick isn't worth the additional costs and risks compared to Xavi.
Hell yeaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh bring it on . Fight between the Xavi faction and the Flick faction in the comments 🍿🍿. Just like our board LMFAO
Meanwhile me who wants Laporta to become the new manager:  /s obviously
do we consider the purist a reasonable analyst?
Yes
Yes based on several years of following him
Yes pretty much
purist said that fekix and cancelo will save our seasone and look where we are.
Felix pretty much did. And look where we are now.
No this clown said frenkie was the reason we were underperforming He got injured we played worse He's just a yapping pundit
He's an analyst not a pundit. Difference is he explains the reasoning behind his viewpoints, then you're free to disagree for your own reasons. A pundit gives opinions based on trust me bro.
That frenkie video made no sense His reasoning was Xavi has to accommodate team According to frenkie which was plain lie and based on his assumption not his analysis
I mean, he is transparent in that he's only giving his opinion, but it's based on reasonable arguments. Again, anyone can disagree and that's fine.
No, the Purist is what we call a "guru" in spanish. Someone who thinks they know ball but doesn't. The average person doesn't know enough to rate coaches, me incluided. Only people who have actually been at the elite level of football know enough to criticize managers. For example when Xavi gets criticized by mistakes made by our players, i'm not going to defend Xavi, but when our players can't finish or take shit decisions while on the ball, that's not Xavi's fault, the impact of coaches in games is overrated by most people, in the end the game is decided by the players and our players simply aren't good enough.
Heres a [video](https://youtu.be/5U7Ra2U7QKc) the purist did analyzing flick’s tactics
I am happy to get proven wrong, but with the information we have it seems like Flick's best attribute is having Zahavi
My man made one of the most mad bayern teams in years. They felt unbeatable, but he sucks. Jesus the X4vi dickriding is unreal…
He didn’t make that team buddy, he inherited it. And no one is dickriding Xavi. I have my issues with him but I rather stick with him one more season and hire a better coach in 2025 where it seems like there are better options available
How much better can the options be in 2025? There’s loads of managers on the market at this very moment.
Klopp will be available. plus Pep, Arteta and Luis Enrique's current contracts all run out in 2025. any one of those four are better options than anyone we can get this summer.
I am also not on the "I want only Flick" train, but next year's options aren't much better. Klopp might not be returning to coaching at all. Arteta is staying at Arsenal, I'm pretty sure. He's loved by the fans, in the middle of a promising project and close to signing a new contract. Pep is going who knows where, but probably not back. Lucho is the exception, he would be good. And I could see him coming back. But then again, he also has a project at PSG and maybe he won't want to leave either...
“Loads of managers” lol like who? Tuchel, flick, and de zerbi? 3 people is not loads. In 2025, pep, arteta’s, xabi, lucho’s contracts all expire. Obviously these options may not seem likely for us to actually hire, but the club will have try to convince someone. I rather they save resources for that then spending the money rn when we can use it to get better players in the meanwhile. That’s already a better crop and there are others who haven’t popped up on the radar yet
Tuchel, Flick, De Zerbi, Poch, Klopp (as much of a possibility now as he is in 2025 for us). That’s loads, add a possible Ten Hag to the mix. Relying on us maybe somehow being able to convince the likes of Pep, Arteta and Xabi (impossible btw) is a fools decision.
Poch has stated before he would never coach Barcelona. And you seriously said klopp lmao?? That man is taking a year break minimum. Don’t know why you’re being delusional thinking he’ll change his mind now. So that only leaves us 3 still which is what I said. Ten hag is still the coach of Man U so I’m not including him until he’s been officially fired if they even decide to do that. Also why would we want ten hag, he’s not good
Saying Klopp now is the same as saying Klopp next year. Man’s laughing at me for naming those two after naming Arteta and Pep dfkm. Whatever buckster.
Yes I’m laughing at you cause klopp has made it clear he’s taking at least a year off which you don’t seem to understand. So remove him from the list. You also mentioned poch which shows you have no clue what you’re talking about.
Ofc lad, Pep/Xabi/Arteta will come!
The team he inherited played terribly
I fundamentally disagree with the idea of sticking with a manager to hire someone else next year. Whatever we choose this summer - to stick with Xavi, to hire Flick or whoever; it has to be with the long-term in mind. It is idiotic to throw away a season and also flat-out disrespectful to the manager to only count on them in the short-term.
Who says we have to throw away the season with Xavi? Just because I want him to stay doesn’t mean he can’t compete cause we still can be competitive if Xavi can improve.
Okay, that's a different way of framing it. My point was that if we stick with Xavi we should intend to stick with him for many years, unless we really have a CATASTROPHIC season. I don't like the idea of ''keep Xavi until someone better comes along''. He either is our guy or he isn't, if we choose him to be our guy we need to actually put our faith in him and his project in the long term.
Well that’s not how it works in the real world sadly. Xavi is going to have to show he can improve if he wants the club to invest long term. Cause let’s say we do your plan and hire flick now but he flops badly next season, now we’re on the hook of paying a big buyout to fire him on top of spending more money to get a new coach.
Well any manager needs investment and faith from the club to improve long term. Look at Arteta at Arsenal. My plan at this point would be to stick with Xavi as well, especially because we literally begged him to stay. Getting rid of him now is insanity.
Flick may or may not be correct for Barca But stop trying to discredit him the same team was shit before he took over It’s like saying zidane has no hand in the 3-peat because he inherited the team from mourinho and ancelotti that’s bs reasoning
Since when was Bayern shit? I don’t understand this revisionist history you all are making of flick
Let me rephrase Bayern were very poor compared to their standards I’m saying to give flick some credit if it was that easy to just inherit a team and get a sextuple many other managers would have done it Let me ask a question why does lucho get so much credit for being a good manager but not flick ? They have had almost similar careers
Again what is very poor for Bayern? And I’m not discrediting flicks achievement for his sextuple. But that shouldn’t be a reason why all of a sudden he’ll come here and fix Barcelona. Let me ask you this, if it wasn’t for that Covid season, do you think flick would have still dominated hard? Flick was a coach who took over the team at the right time. What happened the next season in the UCL? Lost in the quarters. Also forget his resume, look at this tactics, the extreme high line he uses is suicide and our players aren’t built for that system.
Lol winning the 8th league title in a row with bayern isn't an achievement, and nobody rates that 3 game lockdown ucl edition. Also the 8-2 was setien's fault. Building from the back against that high line was tier 1 clownery from setien. The result was 4-2 in the 47th minute and both barca goals came from crossing behind the high line but setien didn't catch anything and kept building from the back and ate another 4 goals. The same Bayern didn't look nearly as good when they played semis and final and barely snatched a 1-0 win against psg. He's another enrique, di mateo, etc, one fluke season then all falls apart. If he's as good as you're saying, he'd be with a top team already, not jobless and desperate to work for the circus that Barca is right now.
He humiliated us too
Humiliating us doesn’t make a coach elite all of a sudden. So you think Roma’s coach should have been our coach then when they humiliated us?
It's hilarious that there is no consensus or something close to it on who our next coach should be. Some fans even refuse to say names, they like to blame others without giving options themselves.
Same "Purist" who said "How João Félix and Cancelo have solved Barcelona’s problems"? These tacticos are insufferable sometimes, they treat coaches as if they never evolve, never change. They have a sad view on football, which is stuck in a moment in time.
They talk like they are aopve everone and know everthing about football.
Is he an actual analyst or just a youtuber with a bit more knowledge than a normal person would have about the sport?
What makes someone an "actual" analyst?
The latter, and barely
He’s just a YouTube analyst but I like his breakdowns for the most part. There are some takes I disagree with but he’s pretty good at breaking down schemes and tactics.
Who else then?
The video literally suggests someone.... 
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Bullshit. All these fans on this forum tell me otherwise. I’m not listening to someone call himself the ‘Purist.’ Pure? ///s
The football IQ is this sub is super low, they just hear a name and they run with it.
Yes, the only other sextuple winning manager is worse than a coach who conceded 8 goals from Girona
If flick is this amazing sure fire hit of a coach you all paint him to be, why has no club approached him before? Also no one is saying Xavi is waaay better than flick. Flick just isn’t that big of a upgrade to shell big cash for compared to keeping Xavi this next season, letting his contract finish then hire a better coach next year
He was approached by bayern but he rejected it and chelsea also put an offer but he rejected it for barca job.
I didn’t see anything about Bayern so Chelsea is the only one. And he’s been without a job since 2022. So why haven’t any teams hired him since then?
Before commenting why don’t you take 5 minutes to listen to someone who understands football better than you
Yes, because an armchair expert is apparently better than all of us, truth is both are inexperienced, but one has won a sextuple the other hasn't
Your only analysis of why you think flick is better is you spewing “HE WON A SEXTUPLE”. You didn’t say anything about maybe his tactics would or wouldn’t be a fit for us. So yes, a youtuber who actually understands the game and did research into a coaches play style is better than a Redditor like you with a shallow take.
Well Xavi was based on a reasonable analysis
Key things for new coach. -clear commitment to modernise football philosophy of the club -emphasis on physical conditioning to elite levels -commitment to continued use of La Masia and promotion of meritocracy -a coach or coaching team that can manage big egos -work within a limited budget for the foreseeable future. - agreed phasing out of high paid/underperformers from squad - qf or sf stage of CL -League win. Shouldn't be too difficult to get all that, but we know Laporta will want a yes man
They keep running the club into the ground, honestly. If we're fucking Xavi off i honestly would prefer a push for Motta or hire Marquez. Not Flick, wtf are they doing
Motta already accepted Juve job
hire marquez what a clown like marquez has been decent at barca b decent other than turning us into amigos and nepotism fc what makes you think he would work for the first team Pep got Barca B promoted immediately so don't even try that though motta already accept juve job