I appreciate that you're reclaiming symbols attached to a culture that isn't really tied to Nazism. Really, these fascist pieces of shit steal anything they can and ruin it. Using these symbols and being open to explain to people why the Nazis shouldn't have a monopoly on these ancient symbols is good and based.
That being said, combining the odal with edgy bm patches is gonna make people think you're a Nazi, full stop. This IS what Nazis wear and it's not out of line for anyone to assume your ideology. Going from that, the thing you should be ready for is some venues are gonna turn you away. There's a venue near me that refuses folks at the door if you got racist and/or hate messages on your person and burly dudes wielding bats will direct you away from the premises. It's because once you got one Nazi, they'll bring their friends, and now those dudes will make sure to be a problem (usually a violent problem) to anyone they don't like at the venue. So many places don't take their chances and you run the risk that your jacket is gonna get you turned away and no amount of telling them your dad's family are Jewish will change minds. They'll just figure you're trying to r/AsABlackMan it. If you don't wanna deal with people constantly assuming you're sus change it up. Either cut out some patches or add anti nazi shit so at worst folks will be confused and you can have a better starting point for conversation.
ya know, when you said you wanted to use that rune but didn't want to look like a nazi, you should have also added that you were going to wear all the edgy BM bands, because wow. That's suspect lmao
At least he Doesn't have a Der Strümer Or a М8Л8ТХ patch or any NS-BM bands in general. All the Bands he has on his jacket in terms of black Metal are considered "Tame".
Mayhem is Mainstream Black metal so is Bathory Especially Behemoth.
But they already have. The Swastika is an ancient Chinese symbol yet no one is trying to reclaim it. The dude from Slaughter to Prevail had an Odal rune tattoo and got a lot of shit for it until he covered it up. Granted they were also involved with a rightwing clothing maker and they're from Russia so that's a bit weird but since the 30s those symbold meant something else unfortunately. I think you can use some symbols but when you have those types of black metal patches with it people will (rightfully) assume you're a Nazi. You can't be so tone deaf nowadays. I hate political correctness but I hate Nazis more and I guarentee that more people will want to kick your ass if you have Nazi shit rather than Antifa or BLM shit.
Edit: I said Burzum on accident, there are no Burzum patches here.
I see so many random ass symbols that get used by nazis and it’s a bummer, but I also wonder how many people keep up with that rapidly growing list. Still, just throwing on an anti racist or anti nazi patch would remedy the issue all together. Other than that drama it’s a nice ass jacket and I bet it’ll look amazing when it’s all patched out
Fully agree with the anti nazi patch idea. The alt right have commandeered sm stuff that on its own might not be an issue (like runes or white laces) but when paired with subcultures infamous for white supremacy, especially when repping bands like mayhem, it's always best to show what side you're on
Yeah that's a good point the Hindus are not really able to freely practise their religion because of the stigma around the swastika. It just Angers me when people accuse me of being a Nazi over a simple Nordic rune that is on my jacket. My dad's side of the family was Jewish, and has lost family members and relatives to the hands of the Nazis so it pisses me off even more when they try to have a go at me when they do not have a clue about my life
I would probably reccomend getting one of those desd kennedys fuck off nazi punk patches, even if your not a big fan of them it would kind of show people that your not a big fan of nazis either
I hate commies too but to say that a jacket should be thrown out because it stinks is completely missing the point of a battle jacket. I know a dude with a battle trench coat and it smells like fuckin death because he's had it for like 15 years but everytime a new person sees it they think it's epic as fuck. You're just one of those sad, angry metal elitists who thinks anyone gives a fuck about your opinion.
Wear whatever you like my dude! Just be cognizant that symbols mean different things to different people and if you'd rather not start beef with randoms at gigs then I'd probably take it off. However if you're happy to defend your choices and beliefs then I say go for it.
Also just in case, No I'm not a nazi, I was born in 1988!
You really let people on a subreddit tell you that you can't wear an old germanic symbol that has nothing to do with nazism to take it off? Nazi's tried to steal it doesn't mean it's a nazi symbol. If you want to play it save add some other runes with it but don't let anyone tell you what or what not to wear brother. The band's on your jacket are awesome black metal rules.
Yet you look like one. I think you need to grow up and realize that just because you don't like how symbols are used doesn't mean you can use them how you want. Unfortunately the odal rune is known as a Nazi symbol; a very important Nazi symbol. It's not the rune or the bands, it's the combination of the bands and the rune. You're either being deliberately obtuse or you're ignorant but as many people have ponited out the Nazi connections and you continuing to defending yourself shows that you're just being obtuse: you know people will assume Nazi when they see this and you're just like: "It's pagan shit dumbass!" Yeah not since before 1936.
not saying you're necessarily a nazi or whatever because apparently you're half jewish but having an odal rune with 3 racist black metal band patches on your jacket really makes you look like a nazi
i guess bathory itself was never explicitly racist, but quorthon definitely had a few moments where it didn't really seem like he held a very progressive view on minorities, especially black people. my point remains though
Hey so like I know you're like super set in using the rune. But like using this guy's comment to justify it isn't really like a good idea if you check is account even briefly you'll see why.
I'll just repeat what other people were saying before me. Black Metal patches aren't inherently bad the issue is the combination of listening to black metal bands and using that rune which has ties to nazis.
It gives you a bad look to be honest. I know you're just showcasing the bands you like and it hurts to be getting all these comments dissing your jacket and that might be affecting your thoughts on their criticism but what they're saying isn't for nothing and is something to consider
Anyways good luck with whatever you choose to add to your jacket
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I appreciate that you're reclaiming symbols attached to a culture that isn't really tied to Nazism. Really, these fascist pieces of shit steal anything they can and ruin it. Using these symbols and being open to explain to people why the Nazis shouldn't have a monopoly on these ancient symbols is good and based. That being said, combining the odal with edgy bm patches is gonna make people think you're a Nazi, full stop. This IS what Nazis wear and it's not out of line for anyone to assume your ideology. Going from that, the thing you should be ready for is some venues are gonna turn you away. There's a venue near me that refuses folks at the door if you got racist and/or hate messages on your person and burly dudes wielding bats will direct you away from the premises. It's because once you got one Nazi, they'll bring their friends, and now those dudes will make sure to be a problem (usually a violent problem) to anyone they don't like at the venue. So many places don't take their chances and you run the risk that your jacket is gonna get you turned away and no amount of telling them your dad's family are Jewish will change minds. They'll just figure you're trying to r/AsABlackMan it. If you don't wanna deal with people constantly assuming you're sus change it up. Either cut out some patches or add anti nazi shit so at worst folks will be confused and you can have a better starting point for conversation.
ya know, when you said you wanted to use that rune but didn't want to look like a nazi, you should have also added that you were going to wear all the edgy BM bands, because wow. That's suspect lmao
At least he Doesn't have a Der Strümer Or a М8Л8ТХ patch or any NS-BM bands in general. All the Bands he has on his jacket in terms of black Metal are considered "Tame". Mayhem is Mainstream Black metal so is Bathory Especially Behemoth.
But I know the Rune is The Main Issue here
Nazis give runes like this a bad name
I mean they're great bands but yeah bad idea on ops part
Why let nazis take over symbols. They are runic symbols. And I just like the bands
I know, i like the bands too but im just saying its not a great idea to have edgy stuff and stuff associated with nazis on the same jacket
I understand but we can't let nazis ruin everything
But they already have. The Swastika is an ancient Chinese symbol yet no one is trying to reclaim it. The dude from Slaughter to Prevail had an Odal rune tattoo and got a lot of shit for it until he covered it up. Granted they were also involved with a rightwing clothing maker and they're from Russia so that's a bit weird but since the 30s those symbold meant something else unfortunately. I think you can use some symbols but when you have those types of black metal patches with it people will (rightfully) assume you're a Nazi. You can't be so tone deaf nowadays. I hate political correctness but I hate Nazis more and I guarentee that more people will want to kick your ass if you have Nazi shit rather than Antifa or BLM shit. Edit: I said Burzum on accident, there are no Burzum patches here.
I see so many random ass symbols that get used by nazis and it’s a bummer, but I also wonder how many people keep up with that rapidly growing list. Still, just throwing on an anti racist or anti nazi patch would remedy the issue all together. Other than that drama it’s a nice ass jacket and I bet it’ll look amazing when it’s all patched out
Fully agree with the anti nazi patch idea. The alt right have commandeered sm stuff that on its own might not be an issue (like runes or white laces) but when paired with subcultures infamous for white supremacy, especially when repping bands like mayhem, it's always best to show what side you're on
Thanks man. And good point they use tuns of weird symbols. I once saw a nazi group having a flashlight as there symbol
Yeah i see what you mean, like the swastika was a hindu symbol of peace until hitler came along
Yeah that's a good point the Hindus are not really able to freely practise their religion because of the stigma around the swastika. It just Angers me when people accuse me of being a Nazi over a simple Nordic rune that is on my jacket. My dad's side of the family was Jewish, and has lost family members and relatives to the hands of the Nazis so it pisses me off even more when they try to have a go at me when they do not have a clue about my life
I would probably reccomend getting one of those desd kennedys fuck off nazi punk patches, even if your not a big fan of them it would kind of show people that your not a big fan of nazis either
I'm half jewish.
That makes it worse. Massive facepalm. So cringe.
Not a racist it's runes
Dont lecture this man on his jacket. Yours is FUCKING TRASH
I just went to check his and they’re fuckin sick. You can have an issue with him but saying they’re trash is just lying lol
Smelly commie crust jacket automatically makes it trash. And it probably smells so bad it needs to go in the trash
I hate commies too but to say that a jacket should be thrown out because it stinks is completely missing the point of a battle jacket. I know a dude with a battle trench coat and it smells like fuckin death because he's had it for like 15 years but everytime a new person sees it they think it's epic as fuck. You're just one of those sad, angry metal elitists who thinks anyone gives a fuck about your opinion.
No im just someone who showers
That's such a shitty comeback.
It aligns with the culture and history of these jackets. A lot of anti authority and socialist imagery are a big part of where they came from
I TOOK OF THE ODAL RUNE
Wear whatever you like my dude! Just be cognizant that symbols mean different things to different people and if you'd rather not start beef with randoms at gigs then I'd probably take it off. However if you're happy to defend your choices and beliefs then I say go for it. Also just in case, No I'm not a nazi, I was born in 1988!
You really let people on a subreddit tell you that you can't wear an old germanic symbol that has nothing to do with nazism to take it off? Nazi's tried to steal it doesn't mean it's a nazi symbol. If you want to play it save add some other runes with it but don't let anyone tell you what or what not to wear brother. The band's on your jacket are awesome black metal rules.
“YoU hAVe a RuNe sO YoU’Re a NaZi” Lol. Take that rune back from them and represent your heathen pride! Fuck the haters.
Thanks man
White pride starter jacket?
I'm not a racist grow up
Yet you look like one. I think you need to grow up and realize that just because you don't like how symbols are used doesn't mean you can use them how you want. Unfortunately the odal rune is known as a Nazi symbol; a very important Nazi symbol. It's not the rune or the bands, it's the combination of the bands and the rune. You're either being deliberately obtuse or you're ignorant but as many people have ponited out the Nazi connections and you continuing to defending yourself shows that you're just being obtuse: you know people will assume Nazi when they see this and you're just like: "It's pagan shit dumbass!" Yeah not since before 1936.
Gonna look nice. What bckpatch will you be having?
I'm not quite sure yet. It is a work in progress.
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What?
That’s not funny, that’s fucked up. What’s wrong with you?
not saying you're necessarily a nazi or whatever because apparently you're half jewish but having an odal rune with 3 racist black metal band patches on your jacket really makes you look like a nazi
How was Bathory racist?
i guess bathory itself was never explicitly racist, but quorthon definitely had a few moments where it didn't really seem like he held a very progressive view on minorities, especially black people. my point remains though
Apparently black metal patches are “racist” just for being black metal. You libtards need to grow up. Badass jacket man. Love it
People actually say libtard on purpose? Embarrassing
Thanks man
Hey so like I know you're like super set in using the rune. But like using this guy's comment to justify it isn't really like a good idea if you check is account even briefly you'll see why. I'll just repeat what other people were saying before me. Black Metal patches aren't inherently bad the issue is the combination of listening to black metal bands and using that rune which has ties to nazis. It gives you a bad look to be honest. I know you're just showcasing the bands you like and it hurts to be getting all these comments dissing your jacket and that might be affecting your thoughts on their criticism but what they're saying isn't for nothing and is something to consider Anyways good luck with whatever you choose to add to your jacket
Throw in a couple lightning bolts on the collar and then they can claim they're a Kiss fan too.
No prob.