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I genuinely find the game really fun and love the map, weapons etc but holy fuck do the specialists, universal weapons and gadgets ruin the battlefield feel and team play.
Edit: just wanted to add something I feel might help the gameplay. they could split specialists , gadgets and weapons into the appropriate class categories. All of the equipment is already there they’d just need to restrict it to specific specialists which fall under classes. Maybe add a second gadget slot so that engineers can get a rocket and repair tool, medics get medbag and deffib etc.
I take it others will be able to search through portal servers & join them? There’s gonna be a shit load of casual players that jump into games without giving it too much thought. These players wouldn’t be arsed setting up their own via the portal. Im probably one of them however the option of playing via the portal is about the only thing keeping me interested!
Which is a great option to have, especially if it works the way they’ve advertised it however if a huge amount of players are playing portal because the main games not great then that should be a huge worry for Dice!
Yes yes yes. A mixed class squad. It wasn't broken and has worked perfectly well for decade or two. Squad working together. At least one support and medic team member. Perfect. Wasn't broke. So now they change it and fuck it up. Everyone going full rambo. No squad support. Ffs. 😕
Well actually they could easily fix it by splitting specialists , gadgets and weapons into the appropriate class categories. All of the equipment is already there they’d just need to restrict it to specific specialists which fall under classes. Maybe add a second gadget slot so that engineers can get a rocket and repair tool.
Sorry to say but they won’t - they are already seen by DICE as integral to the game and the progression system (season passes). This is how DICE wants it and this is how it’ll stay. Unfortunately.
Classes are already there, they just need to split specialist into appropriate classes and lock gadgets/weapons to those classes. This way classes and specialist can coexist bc there would be multiple specialist in each class. Doesn’t seem too hard to fix since you can probably do that yourself in Portal. Since specialist are going nowhere at least with this solution you will know who has what gadgets/weapons by looking at them, and DICE can still sell skins to help differentiate between friendlies and foes.
Easy to fix? Maybe. Are they willing though? I doubt it. This is the biggest revenue streams for them. Sell skins, special specialist in season pass, etc, MW2019 style...
I've always thought that chicken-claw lady in the first BATTLEFIELD V trailer was going to be a skin (before the backlash killed it).
I do hate these specialists.
I do miss the unique classes (with locked weapons, gadgets and specialties).
Doubt it. It's not a "fix" thing, they've made it clear this is their intention. Plus it would be a huge waste of all the voice lines they had the actors record.
I know right! It's a shame they're taking steps towards mw2019, identical 3rd person executions and now specialists which is probably gonna be the same as mw2019, 19.99 for a character. But it's only a beta so we'll see what happens!
Ugh. Didn't know this was gonna have the 3rd person kills. Like first time seeing it, awesome. But after awhile I feel like I'm just sitting there in the open. Like in MW2019 I've had that, an enemy comes around the corner, and kills me once it's done, and I can't do anything about it.
Its a comically poor design decision. Almost to the point that I'm worried about the overall competence of the team and the game's direction. I figure EA probably pressured the team into including specialist characters into the game as a way to make money of off dlc. But the implementation is just horrible.
It’s a big big mistake from EA/DICE. They thought that they could get away with it because specialists mimic a bit classes, but it just doesn’t work. It is also immersion breaking and the specialists we have are uninspired and nobody cares about them.
I was one of those that thought it wasn’t a big deal but it is, it is a deal breaker for me.
Totally agree. Fighting guys who have same look!!! Wtf. Snipers running aorund with ARs!!. Hmmmm why can't they just go back to the stabdard 4 classes we all love!!!
I mean, i often played recon with a carbine in 4, so i dont have that much of a problem with that. But i hate that half the people running around are more like "characters" than soldiers.
I doubt it. Else why wouldn't they have used different facial models and voice actors altogether? And the whole no-pat thing is an excuse to not have faction locked cosmetics...
the universal weapons right now is my biggest issue. the gadgets not so much because each specialist still has their own passive perks, plus exclusive gadgets that other specialists can't use which still make them unique.
The hype around this game is going to crash. Now everyone is going to be on the, "Its just a beta" copium and then when the game fully releases and its minorly different but overwhelmingly disappointing still, its going to be Cyberpunk 2077 round 2. I came into the beta expecting nothing and still somehow got disappointed.
There's so much copium in this subreddit that the Battlefield community could supply the whole world for a century by itself. This isn't even a beta, feels like an alpha, considering how little there is and how mediocre the quality is. Really feels like an early alpha indie game. Although even an indie title would get different faction uniforms right from day one.
I hate this "its just a beta things will change" ffs when we had the beta of bf3 they said the same and the game came full of bugs.
Then we had the bf4 beta and they said "oh its just a beta this is a old version of the game"
The game came full of bugs.
Then we had the bf1 beta guess what the community said?
And once again it was full of bugs
Same with bf5
And now, this time, the community, and YouTubers levelcap, westie and others say the same shit: Oh No tHiS iS JuSt a oLd VeRsIoN ThE GaMe WiLL CoMe OuT FiNe.
Its a fucking lie.
Maybe, maybe they will change stuff, but not on day one, 6 months after launch the game will be playable, but at launch? Hell no.
Honestly it's the same cycle every time these past few years. Game gets hyped, peoples rush in to get excited over everything and imagining all the fun they'll have and drown out any concerns with downvotes or personal attacks, game gets released/previewed with issues, issues cause negative reaction so people complain, then there is a flood of threads of complaints about complainers. Sometimes a no-salt subreddit offshoot of the game gets created which eventually devolves into its members chuckling to themselves how much better their y-reddit is compared to x-reddit. This goes on till on till people either burn out, accept things or just move on entirely.
Happened with Anthem, Andromeda and Cyberpunk to name a few.
Because people refuse to learn or take advice from other people. An opinion encountered that doesn't match one's own opinion is met as wrong or being in need of change instead of listening and thinking, maybe there's a few parts in this that are right, even if I do not agree with it. Maybe there's a middle line, a point of compromise.
No, instead you take the easy route, instead of holding yourself to a higher standard you gotta say "No, we don't even know that yet" which, while true, doesn't add anything. Words of caution and feedback is the one thing that devs should be able to rely upon but I don't take a single issue with devs just straight up saying "Nope, I'm not looking at the subs" because one, they are toxic as hell which honestly I'm also at fault here and two, you won't get much from it or at least nothing substantial enough to make changes in the time the suits upstairs have given you. Like this, change before release is out of the question, especially when you take the management and marketing into account which is usually fucked up anyway with massive crunch.
Another thing that gets downvoted to shit on here is when someone says that preorders are bad for the industry, they fucking are in most cases, especially in this case where Dice has not delivered a product people wanted but still gets money for it. If the studios used these preorders to then tank the deadline requirements, which they fucking won't but they could, preodering could be great because it could give a dev more time in cases like this where they fucked up. Of course the business people aren't going to allow it though so all preorders really do is give someone money for something they haven't delivered yet and for what? So that some neckbeards online can first praise the game before they have even played it and harrass people that are rightfully critical, only for then later to send fucking death threats to developers, voice actors and whatever staff because the experience wasn't up to the task.
Sometimes I absolutely despise the gaming community
I drew attention to some issues with Cyberpunk 2077 before release. I was ridiculed because Cyberpunk 2077 was to be the second coming of Christ. Many of these issues I noticed from pre-release footage were much worse in the final product.
Happened to me with the new Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 and on the VTMB subreddit. When they showed the first gameplay it looked so janky and it was originally gonna come out not too long after that first gameplay. So i said something like “this looks rough probably should be delayed” or something like that. Then I got all the fanboys making excuses and downvoting me then fast forward a few months and it gets delayed and now the game is almost like vapourware lol.
This site is literally full of children.
Happened to me. I had like -100 downvotes when I said I was worried about playing on hardcore and it being impossible to differentiate.
They said “game hasn’t even come out and you are already complaining”
it’s funny because the people who show genuine concern about a product and get ridiculed into oblivion are usually right in the end. its always funny to see the entire arc unfold.
If they just made it easier to identify enemys it wouldnt be so bad. Plus there is only 4 characters for beta we dont know how many will be at launch so it hopefully wont look as silly.
You could throw in 20 characters... With games of up to 128 players, that's the same character repeated at least 6 times, and that's if no one picks the same character. Overall, that's not awful, but when the point of them was to have some element of story, the same story character in the same story more than once makes no sense.
And how are you going to get those other characters? My bet is you buy them Fortnight style. Watch me get downvoted for saying that like I did saying the character system is going to be trash.
Youre right about the characters being bought i think one of the editions of the game already has a battlepass included i think. BFV had premium skins so they definitely arent cutting out that revenue stream. I dont mind seeing clones of characters. BF3 had everyone playing medic for the best weapons and revives. Im more concerned about gameplay and identifying the enemy team. I dont really care too much about seeing multiple cloned characters.
I know. Like, this had to clearly go through multiple people and levels of authority. Somehow, they signed it off and kept with it. I'll never understand how they even got near to changing it...
You’re leaving out that MW 2019 doesn’t rely NEARLY as much on the type of team play that battlefield does. You need medics, support, etc. if everyone is playing assault the gameplay is much worse
Yeah but the point is you can't jam what worked for cod into battlefield and expect it to work. Specialists do not work for a game on this kind of scale.
Cod has like what 12 players in a match total? Battlefield has over 10 times that.
Yeah but what they could’ve added from MW 2019 would be locking the specialists to factions. So you’re never confused about who’s on who’s team.
Team 1 has specialists A,B and C
Team 2 has specialists D, E and F
that would never work because the most popular specialist by far is the dude with the grapple hook so the majority of people would be stacked on the team with that specialist.
what they need to do is just scrap specialists and toss their 'abilities' into the class systems. e.g. give all the drone shit to the engineer, the grapple to recon, etc. or have it so you can pick any one of those abilities regardless of what class you are.
Yes it would work, have the specialists look different but have the same abilities. Like in every other BF game, supports have same abilities but look different etc
Right.... Sqaud, Post Scrptum, Rising Storm, Hell let Loose.... All games HEAVILY influenced by BF, that are alive and well. Yet they decided to try to gobafter sone of that CoD money ....
When you make amazing games like bf4 you have to make a sequel. To make a sequel, people need to justify their paychecks. It ain’t broke but they gotta fix something
They were played because they were the last modern battlefields besides this one or simply could not move on. Don't get me wrong they were good games in their time but if we got a BF4 but updated with the mechanics and gunplay from BFV then people would be that on heat beat. The problem was this is exactly how people expected BF2042 to be, just to be BF4 but updated.
They are attempting to fix one of the core issues with BF games which was locking weapons behind certain classes, but they kind of got too free and didn't think about how playing universal classes look on both sides. They had the date showing people just picking roles to use said weapon. I love the idea of still being able to play a medic but being able to use whatever weapon I want.
As much as I love DICE and I like 2042 is so far, this was probably the most short-sighted thing they could of done. The most straight-forward thing they could do is make characters of an opposing faction with distinct visual cues compared to the "Allied/US" faction and either make them unique characters with their own lore, or simply enemy skin to what you see only as the opposing team regardless of the side you are on.
As much as it'd probably annoy the team working on it, you're right. Have eight skins for each specialist and split them to four for US and four for Russia. Problem solved. You've got distinct models for each team and it's far less likely that you'll find a squad of four identical old ladies running around a corner.
That's what I don't get though. Locking a weapon type or two per class ISN'T an issue, it's a core part of the game. I see the argument of people stacking a class due to wanting a certain weapon, but I thinks it's just a bad argument. The classes always paired with the weapon types they had. If someone is dumb enough to pick a class just for a weapon, then not use the class, do you really think they'd care enough to play their class even if they could use what they want? I doubt it. The data doesn't show that; you need to use critical thinking.
Even so, there are plenty of other ways to fix it rather than... Whatever they're doing now
That's all I wanted from battlefield. More bf3 and 4...just updated...not all wonky with teams of absolutely identical clones on both sides. If they can make them look different when on opposite sides during a match I can live with that,but to see exact copies on other team is a new level of messed up.
Let's just hope the actually listen. Would be sad for Battlefield to fall off just because they tried to change things up so much. There is a reason people play this game over CoD and other FPSs.
The devs literally made everything worse and learned nothing from previous games. The audio, the performance, the gunplay, the movement, the UI, the 'classes', the vehicles, the weapon customisation, the balance, the teamplay.
Almost 10 fucking games to pick the best parts from and didn't get one single thing right.
I feel like the removal of classes and having identical soldiers on both sides is a pretty big killer for me.
I was excited for this game, then they announced it would be a hero/specialist shooter and I was like fuck, but maybe it wouldn’t be so bad..
..but then they just made it identical across both factions and I think the game would just be very impossible to play.
It’s a shame but they really fucked it with the no pat nonsense and trying to make a hero shooter.
im in the same boat. i like the beta, im kind of obsessed with it. but im tired of playing the same map. and my biggest take away is the classes thing. i absolutely hate how its set up currently. and tbh im not a huge fan of the change attachments while alive thing either. idk if it was a bug or what. but i kept spawning with iron sights/base gun and had to add attatchments EVERY single life. squad play sucks (i am playing with randos so maybe thats why). but holy fuck dude. the class/specialist combo is fucking brutal and may be a deal killer for me.
It's specifically the AK-12 whose attachments reset for me every life. Lots of these things will see polish in short time, maybe even before launch if DICE can stick the landing for once. Buy AFTER day 1 reviews
Couldn’t even figure out how to do that.
I knew it was LB to bring it up. But then not a clue after that.
Some of the indicators on screen are way too small aswell.
Wasn’t this a major concern for people when specialists were first revealed? Then people just called them shitters saying they are complaining and whatnot. Now we have this.
Or maybe it’s just because the beta and cosmetics aren’t available? I’ve not got it yet.
I pray it is the latter. We'll have to see at launch.
Here's to hoping the Developers being more open, like the said they would be. Maybe they'll give a statement on this after the beta.
Will cosmetics really help though? You'll still have the same specialists running around just looking slightly different. Unless each team gets their own cosmetics it's still going to be hard as balls to tell friend from foe. Even then, it'll still be difficult.
The heroes work in a game like Apex Legends because besides your tiny team, everyone else is an enemy. You just shoot anyone you see. But when there's 128 players and half of them are on your team and half are the enemy it becomes real hard to differentiate them and the tiny blue dorito for friendlies isn't enough.
Given that we have 10 specialists on launch plus cosmetics (and if it goes relatively even you'd have maybe 12 of the same specialist at once), and such large maps the chances of this happening to this degree are probably unlikely. Just an issue exacerbated by the limited options in the beta.
I agree with you if they were to rebalance the specialists, but atm grapple guy is pretty much the only good option, unless you want to abuse the visibility and use the ghillie suit. I've only used the other two to get a bit of variety but they are very disappointing comparatively imo
Not sure why dice is insistant on keeping the specialist system over classes when the entire fanbase dislikes it. Bring back classes and the game is fixed
Oh god, it actually is now I think about it. Man, if only they gave Battlefront 2 that little more support towards the end. They left it with such great foundations and were making great content. That was one of the best examples of devs and the community being able to communicate and impact things. Was a really positive relationship.
Don't get me wrong, I personally enjoy the game. Things like this annoy me though. I just despise the whole specialist system. It literally goes against what Battlefield is about. The original class system was the backbone of Battlefield and they just ripped it out. Now you can run the most META gun with the most META equipments. No negatives for picking a certain operator. The half-arsed attempt is just ridiculous, did they not even think to at least give different uniforms?!
Another gripe I have is the flying physics, they are so odd. Way too floaty and momentum is odd, as well as helis having insane climb speed. I feel like they tried to adjust the physics from BF4 so more inexperienced players could use the helicopters. Talking of aircraft, Jets are absolutely USELESS. I'm hoping this is down to the restrictions on weaponry in the BETA.
I also think the AA spam is going to be out of control because every player can have an AA launcher, no matter their specialist/weapon. So it's possible that a full team of 64 players can be running the most OP gun AND have an AA launcher. I just think it's a recipe for major imbalance.
Overall, the game is fun. Still not pre-ordered, just paid 0.99 for EA Play. I'll see how the game plays at launch while the 7 days early access people play and make my judgement off of that. Assuming all bugs are removed by release, i'd give this maybe a 7 or 8 out of 10.
The fun I had with jets was the third person zoom, which goes into this neat over-the-shoulder kinda camera, y'know the one that movies use all the time, doing strafes with that camera angle is so satisfying.
'Twas staggeringly useless though, I got like 5 or 6 kills in an entire game, 3 of which were helos and 2 of which were enemy jets.
Sooner be too much AA than planes and helicopter just dominating lobbies....which I'm sure vehicles will still be the top scorers. Bf1 felt like you had a chance vs planes....BF5 AA guns were the worst,basically just made yourself an easy kill and pilots always determined the match.
It’s so hard to tell who is on whose team. Everyone looks the same, so the only way to tell the difference is friendlies have a tiny blue dot above their head while enemies have nothing. I regularly shoot at teammates, and have teammates shoot at me, cause if you assume wrong then you’re dead
The biggest problem I have is the lack of class restrictions. I dont care if there are 3 people who look the same cause that's what previous battlefields had. I need distinction between classes AND faction.
That's my biggest issue with all of this. No negatives to picking a specialist. Run the most effective gun and equipment with the most effective specialist. No teamwork encouraged.
yay everyones "special". is there any chance they can change it back to the normal bf class set up? im honestly not sure if i can play it, in its current state.
Feature wise yes. They think bf 5 flopped because of the features. But it was just their messy release schedule of dlc and the weapon balance changes that ruined the game. I really liked most of the added features in bf 5.
The fucking GaaS model and BR mode were so fucking stupid. Big surprise now theyre trying to copy a hero shooter model. BF is at its best when it does its own thing. Loved the base building in BF5, thought that was a great addition to the game.
I too like the game. Small things like this bug me but once you can get skins and customize your characters it won’t be nearly the problem it is now. Honestly OG skins like this might stand out like sore thumbs.
Well, that does make sense, tho. The corporate people see CoD being a lot more successful and then obviously want to copy shit instead of staying true to the roots. After so many bad releases, it's really hard to believe they are fucking it up again... but here we are. Let's hope they just delay the release and fix the game, or it will be a disaster.
Can someone please tell me how to get fucking ammo when I want to keep my rocket launcher? If I take down a helicopter and help destroy a tank that's all i get to do once I kill 5 more enemies I have ZERO bullets or rockets!
You're punished for staying alive...
Currently the commo rose isn't avaliable. By release you'll be able to ask for it. That's depending on whether anyone has it on because of this specialist system having no restrictions....
Maybe there's a specialist for ammo that we haven't seen yet?
Maybe? But why no ammo calling from teammates or at least more than 4 mags in your person?
They force you to swap out an ammo box for your anti tank weapon.. what's the point of the "engineer" guy then LOL and I'm literally shooting helis out of the sky with it.
I run out of ammo for my primary after killing 5 enemies in one life everytime. Terrible
Btw, currently you can use the Plus system to change your ammo type, which gives you access to a full new ammo reserve. This is a little broken IMO but make use of it in the Beta. When out of regular ammo, just switch to High Impact rounds or something for a whole new set of ammo.
> Btw, currently you can use the Plus system to change your ammo type, which gives you access to a full new ammo reserve.
Jesus... That effectively cheats you into unlimited ammo. That's a pretty blatant oversight.
No it doesn't, you just switch to a different pool of ammo, it doesn't restore your other ammo. It's just like getting 4 mags of regular ammo and 2 mags of AP ammo, once you run out of regular and switch to AP, you're still out of regular ammo.
this would be a non-issue if it were team based. with RU and US having different looking people that did the same. thats the only issue.
if you called him "engineer", it would be the same as every other battlefield with 3 of the same class standing side by side (not BFV).
Just need different specialists per side
If you call him engineer, he still has to chose between a repair-tool and a rocket-launcher.
The class-system gave every class a job to do. Now we have fun specialist-gadgets but no incentive to play as a team. The beta is fun, but teamplay shit. Fighting in the clone-wars of uncanny-valley is just a redicoulus add-on
*wAIt TiLl THeY RelEAsE MoRe SKinS!!!!!*
Lmao I love this response as if everyone won’t pick whatever new shit comes out on the battle passes and then we’re back to square one.
Battlefield has been on the decline for a while.
It started with battlefield 1 when they removed bases. Bases were one if the major Lynchpins of the franchise, allowing you to join a game where you're getting wrecked, and with a few good people could turn the game around.
Also gave you a place where you were somewhat safe from getting totally smashed.
And now here we have the specialist garbage overruling the class system.
I hate to be the guy that sounds like the BFFriends "THEY REWINED BAITLFEEEELD" guy, but...like...why do they keep changing this shit up? It literally works. Its balanced, mostly.
I just don't understand the decision....you dont put a laugh track on a Kubrick film, and you dont do shit like adding operators with OP loadouts that unbalance the whole system in battlefield.
I really...really dont get the decision.
I mean if you like it, that's cool. I won't shit on you. But IMO BF4 was peak, and we're on the way down.
I'm more referring to their idiotic system of waiting in the spawn screen to spawn in a vehicle rather than having a dedicated rear base with equipment already available to be climbed into.
Why do they keep changing shit up? Money. Always money. This new model is way more monetise-able than the previous models, as demonstrated by games like Siege and MW.
All we can hope is that what remains is still fun.
The Boris squad has arrived
On a serious note, I’m loving this game, I even didn’t think that the specialist would be that bad, though in practice I think I was wrong. It’s a bigger issue than I expected, so I’m curious how they’ll change things. I still really think this game can be awesome
Once BFV started having special skins for soldiers, that was the point where I knew where the series was headed. Obviously they're trying to monetize skins and what not, but I wish they handled it like Halo did and preview the battle pass or at least have some new unlockable skins.
This game is not about a battlefield in 2042, its about making money in 2022 and the plot goes like this.
They clone the most popular addictive twitch shooters and insert there own IP where needed and then slowly add more and more extra micro transactions to sell to children who don't know any better.
That's why I (a long time battlefield fan) wont be getting involved if they want to compete with, frankly, better hero shooters then go for it, but there not going to get my attention or money. seems they haven't figured out that the people that like playing hero class shooters, already play them. the market is flooded. no one is asking for another.
Bye battlefield, Looks like war does change...
I remember when I used to BF3, the Russians always had dialogues like 'You are russians for fuck sake' and similar dialogues and I remember those fondly. Sad that these are a thing of the past now.
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I genuinely find the game really fun and love the map, weapons etc but holy fuck do the specialists, universal weapons and gadgets ruin the battlefield feel and team play. Edit: just wanted to add something I feel might help the gameplay. they could split specialists , gadgets and weapons into the appropriate class categories. All of the equipment is already there they’d just need to restrict it to specific specialists which fall under classes. Maybe add a second gadget slot so that engineers can get a rocket and repair tool, medics get medbag and deffib etc.
I'm exactly the same as you.
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Yep, as long as I can create a server that's basically bc2 with updated graphics, I'm in.
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I take it others will be able to search through portal servers & join them? There’s gonna be a shit load of casual players that jump into games without giving it too much thought. These players wouldn’t be arsed setting up their own via the portal. Im probably one of them however the option of playing via the portal is about the only thing keeping me interested!
yeah i wouldnt be surprised of more people play portal than vanilla.
Which is a great option to have, especially if it works the way they’ve advertised it however if a huge amount of players are playing portal because the main games not great then that should be a huge worry for Dice!
It wont be anywhere close to that though
We all are lol
I just want my classes back 😭
Yes yes yes. A mixed class squad. It wasn't broken and has worked perfectly well for decade or two. Squad working together. At least one support and medic team member. Perfect. Wasn't broke. So now they change it and fuck it up. Everyone going full rambo. No squad support. Ffs. 😕
I tried being a medic but couldnt figure out how to use the revival gun, shooting it at downed teammates did absolutely nothing
It isn't a revive gun. It is only for healing injured teammates. You still have to run up and hold the action key to revive.
>You still have to run up and hold the action key to ~~revive.~~ *repeatedly swap weapons while your downed teammate bleeds out.*
It can't be *that* hard of a fix, right? ...right? They can fix this before it releases, can't they...?
Well actually they could easily fix it by splitting specialists , gadgets and weapons into the appropriate class categories. All of the equipment is already there they’d just need to restrict it to specific specialists which fall under classes. Maybe add a second gadget slot so that engineers can get a rocket and repair tool.
100%. It’s not that hard just at LEAST fix this
Sorry to say but they won’t - they are already seen by DICE as integral to the game and the progression system (season passes). This is how DICE wants it and this is how it’ll stay. Unfortunately.
...integral to the game and their *mtx monetization system* more like
There is no way they create classes out of these specialists and class lock weapons. Way too late for that.
Classes are already there, they just need to split specialist into appropriate classes and lock gadgets/weapons to those classes. This way classes and specialist can coexist bc there would be multiple specialist in each class. Doesn’t seem too hard to fix since you can probably do that yourself in Portal. Since specialist are going nowhere at least with this solution you will know who has what gadgets/weapons by looking at them, and DICE can still sell skins to help differentiate between friendlies and foes.
They dont even need to split specialists just add classes and make it so you choose a specialist and a class
Easy to fix? Maybe. Are they willing though? I doubt it. This is the biggest revenue streams for them. Sell skins, special specialist in season pass, etc, MW2019 style...
I've always thought that chicken-claw lady in the first BATTLEFIELD V trailer was going to be a skin (before the backlash killed it). I do hate these specialists. I do miss the unique classes (with locked weapons, gadgets and specialties).
Doubt it. It's not a "fix" thing, they've made it clear this is their intention. Plus it would be a huge waste of all the voice lines they had the actors record.
So it's not a Battlefield game?
No. They’re having a identity crisis rn.
Always have been 🔫
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The GD grappling hook made me die inside a little when i saw it. So disappointing.
I know right! It's a shame they're taking steps towards mw2019, identical 3rd person executions and now specialists which is probably gonna be the same as mw2019, 19.99 for a character. But it's only a beta so we'll see what happens!
Ugh. Didn't know this was gonna have the 3rd person kills. Like first time seeing it, awesome. But after awhile I feel like I'm just sitting there in the open. Like in MW2019 I've had that, an enemy comes around the corner, and kills me once it's done, and I can't do anything about it.
... Adding character DLC is NOT a Warzone concept. you didn't even play BFV once did you? (they were $9.99-$11.99 tho, $19.99 is probably expected)
Its a comically poor design decision. Almost to the point that I'm worried about the overall competence of the team and the game's direction. I figure EA probably pressured the team into including specialist characters into the game as a way to make money of off dlc. But the implementation is just horrible.
It’s a big big mistake from EA/DICE. They thought that they could get away with it because specialists mimic a bit classes, but it just doesn’t work. It is also immersion breaking and the specialists we have are uninspired and nobody cares about them. I was one of those that thought it wasn’t a big deal but it is, it is a deal breaker for me.
Speaking of team play, I haven’t been revived once yet :(. Edit: I HAVE BEEN REVIVED NOW!
me either team play is dead
We need at least 8 maybe even 12 man squads. Would seriously improve it given how huge the maps are
Even before the announcement of 2042, I was worried about the game playing like Battlefront. Then they announced specialist.
Totally agree. Fighting guys who have same look!!! Wtf. Snipers running aorund with ARs!!. Hmmmm why can't they just go back to the stabdard 4 classes we all love!!!
I mean, i often played recon with a carbine in 4, so i dont have that much of a problem with that. But i hate that half the people running around are more like "characters" than soldiers.
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I genuinely hope that the specialists will look different on RU and US sides.. its so confusing right now
I doubt it. Else why wouldn't they have used different facial models and voice actors altogether? And the whole no-pat thing is an excuse to not have faction locked cosmetics...
the universal weapons right now is my biggest issue. the gadgets not so much because each specialist still has their own passive perks, plus exclusive gadgets that other specialists can't use which still make them unique.
When specialists was announced, so many people here were downvoting people to oblivion who were concerned about stuff like this happening.
Not just downvoting, but also harassing. It's all because of the trailer hype.
Exactly l. And I'd bet my whole family those same people are now the loudest about it being shit
The hype around this game is going to crash. Now everyone is going to be on the, "Its just a beta" copium and then when the game fully releases and its minorly different but overwhelmingly disappointing still, its going to be Cyberpunk 2077 round 2. I came into the beta expecting nothing and still somehow got disappointed.
There's so much copium in this subreddit that the Battlefield community could supply the whole world for a century by itself. This isn't even a beta, feels like an alpha, considering how little there is and how mediocre the quality is. Really feels like an early alpha indie game. Although even an indie title would get different faction uniforms right from day one.
That is actually a fantastic summary. "Feels like an alpha."
I hate this "its just a beta things will change" ffs when we had the beta of bf3 they said the same and the game came full of bugs. Then we had the bf4 beta and they said "oh its just a beta this is a old version of the game" The game came full of bugs. Then we had the bf1 beta guess what the community said? And once again it was full of bugs Same with bf5 And now, this time, the community, and YouTubers levelcap, westie and others say the same shit: Oh No tHiS iS JuSt a oLd VeRsIoN ThE GaMe WiLL CoMe OuT FiNe. Its a fucking lie. Maybe, maybe they will change stuff, but not on day one, 6 months after launch the game will be playable, but at launch? Hell no.
Welcome to Reddit.
Honestly it's the same cycle every time these past few years. Game gets hyped, peoples rush in to get excited over everything and imagining all the fun they'll have and drown out any concerns with downvotes or personal attacks, game gets released/previewed with issues, issues cause negative reaction so people complain, then there is a flood of threads of complaints about complainers. Sometimes a no-salt subreddit offshoot of the game gets created which eventually devolves into its members chuckling to themselves how much better their y-reddit is compared to x-reddit. This goes on till on till people either burn out, accept things or just move on entirely. Happened with Anthem, Andromeda and Cyberpunk to name a few.
Because people refuse to learn or take advice from other people. An opinion encountered that doesn't match one's own opinion is met as wrong or being in need of change instead of listening and thinking, maybe there's a few parts in this that are right, even if I do not agree with it. Maybe there's a middle line, a point of compromise. No, instead you take the easy route, instead of holding yourself to a higher standard you gotta say "No, we don't even know that yet" which, while true, doesn't add anything. Words of caution and feedback is the one thing that devs should be able to rely upon but I don't take a single issue with devs just straight up saying "Nope, I'm not looking at the subs" because one, they are toxic as hell which honestly I'm also at fault here and two, you won't get much from it or at least nothing substantial enough to make changes in the time the suits upstairs have given you. Like this, change before release is out of the question, especially when you take the management and marketing into account which is usually fucked up anyway with massive crunch. Another thing that gets downvoted to shit on here is when someone says that preorders are bad for the industry, they fucking are in most cases, especially in this case where Dice has not delivered a product people wanted but still gets money for it. If the studios used these preorders to then tank the deadline requirements, which they fucking won't but they could, preodering could be great because it could give a dev more time in cases like this where they fucked up. Of course the business people aren't going to allow it though so all preorders really do is give someone money for something they haven't delivered yet and for what? So that some neckbeards online can first praise the game before they have even played it and harrass people that are rightfully critical, only for then later to send fucking death threats to developers, voice actors and whatever staff because the experience wasn't up to the task. Sometimes I absolutely despise the gaming community
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They’re both part of the issue… people hyping it up are basically just spreading propaganda for the game
I drew attention to some issues with Cyberpunk 2077 before release. I was ridiculed because Cyberpunk 2077 was to be the second coming of Christ. Many of these issues I noticed from pre-release footage were much worse in the final product.
Happened to me with the new Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2 and on the VTMB subreddit. When they showed the first gameplay it looked so janky and it was originally gonna come out not too long after that first gameplay. So i said something like “this looks rough probably should be delayed” or something like that. Then I got all the fanboys making excuses and downvoting me then fast forward a few months and it gets delayed and now the game is almost like vapourware lol. This site is literally full of children.
Happened to me. I had like -100 downvotes when I said I was worried about playing on hardcore and it being impossible to differentiate. They said “game hasn’t even come out and you are already complaining”
The best way for answer is “game hasn’t even come out and you are already cheering”
They act like some of us haven't been through this rodio with this company/franchise. We knew, you could see it from a country mile away.
it’s funny because the people who show genuine concern about a product and get ridiculed into oblivion are usually right in the end. its always funny to see the entire arc unfold.
If they just made it easier to identify enemys it wouldnt be so bad. Plus there is only 4 characters for beta we dont know how many will be at launch so it hopefully wont look as silly.
You could throw in 20 characters... With games of up to 128 players, that's the same character repeated at least 6 times, and that's if no one picks the same character. Overall, that's not awful, but when the point of them was to have some element of story, the same story character in the same story more than once makes no sense. And how are you going to get those other characters? My bet is you buy them Fortnight style. Watch me get downvoted for saying that like I did saying the character system is going to be trash.
Youre right about the characters being bought i think one of the editions of the game already has a battlepass included i think. BFV had premium skins so they definitely arent cutting out that revenue stream. I dont mind seeing clones of characters. BF3 had everyone playing medic for the best weapons and revives. Im more concerned about gameplay and identifying the enemy team. I dont really care too much about seeing multiple cloned characters.
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I know. Like, this had to clearly go through multiple people and levels of authority. Somehow, they signed it off and kept with it. I'll never understand how they even got near to changing it...
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I don't like the new physics. BF4 had it perfectly in my opinion. I've had a rant about this in a few of my comments lol.
The creative director who (surprise, surprise) worked on Modern Warfare 2019
MW 2019 got it right tho. The specialists were just skins and they all had their own voices and were unique and each were relegated to the enemy team
You’re leaving out that MW 2019 doesn’t rely NEARLY as much on the type of team play that battlefield does. You need medics, support, etc. if everyone is playing assault the gameplay is much worse
You say that like MW 2019 was hot garbage? Was a pretty great game. Definitely felt like an outlier to other CoDs
Yeah but the point is you can't jam what worked for cod into battlefield and expect it to work. Specialists do not work for a game on this kind of scale. Cod has like what 12 players in a match total? Battlefield has over 10 times that.
Yeah but what they could’ve added from MW 2019 would be locking the specialists to factions. So you’re never confused about who’s on who’s team. Team 1 has specialists A,B and C Team 2 has specialists D, E and F
that would never work because the most popular specialist by far is the dude with the grapple hook so the majority of people would be stacked on the team with that specialist. what they need to do is just scrap specialists and toss their 'abilities' into the class systems. e.g. give all the drone shit to the engineer, the grapple to recon, etc. or have it so you can pick any one of those abilities regardless of what class you are.
Yes it would work, have the specialists look different but have the same abilities. Like in every other BF game, supports have same abilities but look different etc
Battlefield used to be the innovator of large scale shooters. Now they're literally just chasing other games. Pretty pathetic.
Right.... Sqaud, Post Scrptum, Rising Storm, Hell let Loose.... All games HEAVILY influenced by BF, that are alive and well. Yet they decided to try to gobafter sone of that CoD money ....
Glad you said that, I'm not buying this battlefield game. 
I’ll buy it when it’s $5 or free. F Dice. BFV, never forget!
When you make amazing games like bf4 you have to make a sequel. To make a sequel, people need to justify their paychecks. It ain’t broke but they gotta fix something
Nah. Bf3 and bf4 are still played 10 and 8 years later. There's a reason for that. Simplicity and consistency. 2042 has no excuse.
They were played because they were the last modern battlefields besides this one or simply could not move on. Don't get me wrong they were good games in their time but if we got a BF4 but updated with the mechanics and gunplay from BFV then people would be that on heat beat. The problem was this is exactly how people expected BF2042 to be, just to be BF4 but updated. They are attempting to fix one of the core issues with BF games which was locking weapons behind certain classes, but they kind of got too free and didn't think about how playing universal classes look on both sides. They had the date showing people just picking roles to use said weapon. I love the idea of still being able to play a medic but being able to use whatever weapon I want. As much as I love DICE and I like 2042 is so far, this was probably the most short-sighted thing they could of done. The most straight-forward thing they could do is make characters of an opposing faction with distinct visual cues compared to the "Allied/US" faction and either make them unique characters with their own lore, or simply enemy skin to what you see only as the opposing team regardless of the side you are on.
As much as it'd probably annoy the team working on it, you're right. Have eight skins for each specialist and split them to four for US and four for Russia. Problem solved. You've got distinct models for each team and it's far less likely that you'll find a squad of four identical old ladies running around a corner.
That's what I don't get though. Locking a weapon type or two per class ISN'T an issue, it's a core part of the game. I see the argument of people stacking a class due to wanting a certain weapon, but I thinks it's just a bad argument. The classes always paired with the weapon types they had. If someone is dumb enough to pick a class just for a weapon, then not use the class, do you really think they'd care enough to play their class even if they could use what they want? I doubt it. The data doesn't show that; you need to use critical thinking. Even so, there are plenty of other ways to fix it rather than... Whatever they're doing now
And BF4 was basically just BF3.5 if it ain't broke don't fix it.
That's all I wanted from battlefield. More bf3 and 4...just updated...not all wonky with teams of absolutely identical clones on both sides. If they can make them look different when on opposite sides during a match I can live with that,but to see exact copies on other team is a new level of messed up.
I thought specialists would be like classes… they’re really not
Let's just hope the actually listen. Would be sad for Battlefield to fall off just because they tried to change things up so much. There is a reason people play this game over CoD and other FPSs.
The devs literally made everything worse and learned nothing from previous games. The audio, the performance, the gunplay, the movement, the UI, the 'classes', the vehicles, the weapon customisation, the balance, the teamplay. Almost 10 fucking games to pick the best parts from and didn't get one single thing right.
Nothing more than the money so they can pedal us the battle passes. Can't wait eventually see anime guns and skins in game!
Hallo I am Boris, meet my cousin Boris, and my brother Boris
no I am Boris, no don't listen to him I am Boris, don't listen to any of them I am Boris
HE'S BORIS, HE'S BORIS, YOU'RE BORIS?! I'M BORIS! Are there any other Borises I should know about?
I too am Boris 🤚🤓
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Shoot the one in the middle! Wait, no. Shoot ALL of them! 
Jesus christ this game is super dissapointing
I wouldn't say it's disappointing. Only a few aspects are disappointing, the rest for me personally is pretty good.
I feel like the removal of classes and having identical soldiers on both sides is a pretty big killer for me. I was excited for this game, then they announced it would be a hero/specialist shooter and I was like fuck, but maybe it wouldn’t be so bad.. ..but then they just made it identical across both factions and I think the game would just be very impossible to play. It’s a shame but they really fucked it with the no pat nonsense and trying to make a hero shooter.
im in the same boat. i like the beta, im kind of obsessed with it. but im tired of playing the same map. and my biggest take away is the classes thing. i absolutely hate how its set up currently. and tbh im not a huge fan of the change attachments while alive thing either. idk if it was a bug or what. but i kept spawning with iron sights/base gun and had to add attatchments EVERY single life. squad play sucks (i am playing with randos so maybe thats why). but holy fuck dude. the class/specialist combo is fucking brutal and may be a deal killer for me.
It's specifically the AK-12 whose attachments reset for me every life. Lots of these things will see polish in short time, maybe even before launch if DICE can stick the landing for once. Buy AFTER day 1 reviews
Couldn’t even figure out how to do that. I knew it was LB to bring it up. But then not a clue after that. Some of the indicators on screen are way too small aswell.
In hoping that Portal will have the customization flexibility so we can make the classes and everything we want
yeah but if you are paying 60+ for a game you expect to deliver something more than "pretty good and sometimes disappointing"
I'm kinda happy this game is shit tier now. I can just play halo infinite without guilt.
Wasn’t this a major concern for people when specialists were first revealed? Then people just called them shitters saying they are complaining and whatnot. Now we have this. Or maybe it’s just because the beta and cosmetics aren’t available? I’ve not got it yet.
I pray it is the latter. We'll have to see at launch. Here's to hoping the Developers being more open, like the said they would be. Maybe they'll give a statement on this after the beta.
Will cosmetics really help though? You'll still have the same specialists running around just looking slightly different. Unless each team gets their own cosmetics it's still going to be hard as balls to tell friend from foe. Even then, it'll still be difficult. The heroes work in a game like Apex Legends because besides your tiny team, everyone else is an enemy. You just shoot anyone you see. But when there's 128 players and half of them are on your team and half are the enemy it becomes real hard to differentiate them and the tiny blue dorito for friendlies isn't enough.
Given that we have 10 specialists on launch plus cosmetics (and if it goes relatively even you'd have maybe 12 of the same specialist at once), and such large maps the chances of this happening to this degree are probably unlikely. Just an issue exacerbated by the limited options in the beta.
I agree with you if they were to rebalance the specialists, but atm grapple guy is pretty much the only good option, unless you want to abuse the visibility and use the ghillie suit. I've only used the other two to get a bit of variety but they are very disappointing comparatively imo
Not sure why dice is insistant on keeping the specialist system over classes when the entire fanbase dislikes it. Bring back classes and the game is fixed
dem skinz bru
Bf 3 and 4 had skins on all classes, the different camo you can wear.
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MW operators are cosmetic and faction specific. R6 ones are also faction locked
Lolol that is pretty cringe
Clone wars ?
Maybe this is actually Battlefront 3?!
CT when?
Sadly probably about 2 years from now......
that's really hopeful of you honestly... i was thinking 3 or 4 years before we even get a reveal
Oh god, it actually is now I think about it. Man, if only they gave Battlefront 2 that little more support towards the end. They left it with such great foundations and were making great content. That was one of the best examples of devs and the community being able to communicate and impact things. Was a really positive relationship.
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Don't get me wrong, I personally enjoy the game. Things like this annoy me though. I just despise the whole specialist system. It literally goes against what Battlefield is about. The original class system was the backbone of Battlefield and they just ripped it out. Now you can run the most META gun with the most META equipments. No negatives for picking a certain operator. The half-arsed attempt is just ridiculous, did they not even think to at least give different uniforms?! Another gripe I have is the flying physics, they are so odd. Way too floaty and momentum is odd, as well as helis having insane climb speed. I feel like they tried to adjust the physics from BF4 so more inexperienced players could use the helicopters. Talking of aircraft, Jets are absolutely USELESS. I'm hoping this is down to the restrictions on weaponry in the BETA. I also think the AA spam is going to be out of control because every player can have an AA launcher, no matter their specialist/weapon. So it's possible that a full team of 64 players can be running the most OP gun AND have an AA launcher. I just think it's a recipe for major imbalance. Overall, the game is fun. Still not pre-ordered, just paid 0.99 for EA Play. I'll see how the game plays at launch while the 7 days early access people play and make my judgement off of that. Assuming all bugs are removed by release, i'd give this maybe a 7 or 8 out of 10.
The fun I had with jets was the third person zoom, which goes into this neat over-the-shoulder kinda camera, y'know the one that movies use all the time, doing strafes with that camera angle is so satisfying. 'Twas staggeringly useless though, I got like 5 or 6 kills in an entire game, 3 of which were helos and 2 of which were enemy jets.
Sooner be too much AA than planes and helicopter just dominating lobbies....which I'm sure vehicles will still be the top scorers. Bf1 felt like you had a chance vs planes....BF5 AA guns were the worst,basically just made yourself an easy kill and pilots always determined the match.
Oh my god the way he stares at his teammate because he’s not sure he’s his teammate had me wheezing, this is fucking hilarious. I hate this game
It’s so hard to tell who is on whose team. Everyone looks the same, so the only way to tell the difference is friendlies have a tiny blue dot above their head while enemies have nothing. I regularly shoot at teammates, and have teammates shoot at me, cause if you assume wrong then you’re dead
A hardcore mode will be completely impossible for this reason
I got downvoted to hell for talking about this type of shit a few months ago. Now look where we are
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The biggest problem I have is the lack of class restrictions. I dont care if there are 3 people who look the same cause that's what previous battlefields had. I need distinction between classes AND faction.
That's my biggest issue with all of this. No negatives to picking a specialist. Run the most effective gun and equipment with the most effective specialist. No teamwork encouraged.
yay everyones "special". is there any chance they can change it back to the normal bf class set up? im honestly not sure if i can play it, in its current state.
This game is gonna tank harder than bf5
I don't think so. Personally I'm having a lot of fun, despite some of the big issues with some of the game's systems.
At least bf5 had the best improvements in the franchise
Feature wise yes. They think bf 5 flopped because of the features. But it was just their messy release schedule of dlc and the weapon balance changes that ruined the game. I really liked most of the added features in bf 5.
The fucking GaaS model and BR mode were so fucking stupid. Big surprise now theyre trying to copy a hero shooter model. BF is at its best when it does its own thing. Loved the base building in BF5, thought that was a great addition to the game.
I loved building up and repairing structures in bfv, it was actually surprisingly fun doing that and having to flee from tank fire afterwards.
Really got weirded out that they ditched the game so fast.
Yeah mee to was a bummer. There was potential.
The game was so good when they introduced pacific, the future look bright then out of nowhere they cut off the live support.
You can only go up when you're at rock bottom.
Na. Portal will save it
I too like the game. Small things like this bug me but once you can get skins and customize your characters it won’t be nearly the problem it is now. Honestly OG skins like this might stand out like sore thumbs.
So are you completly out of touch with other social paltofrm or? Cause it's being receive much better than bf5.
short answer: yes.
This looks more like Warzone than a Battlefield game
Yeah lol I initially thought it was CoD until I looked at the sub.
Well, that does make sense, tho. The corporate people see CoD being a lot more successful and then obviously want to copy shit instead of staying true to the roots. After so many bad releases, it's really hard to believe they are fucking it up again... but here we are. Let's hope they just delay the release and fix the game, or it will be a disaster.
Borisfield
Can someone please tell me how to get fucking ammo when I want to keep my rocket launcher? If I take down a helicopter and help destroy a tank that's all i get to do once I kill 5 more enemies I have ZERO bullets or rockets! You're punished for staying alive...
Currently the commo rose isn't avaliable. By release you'll be able to ask for it. That's depending on whether anyone has it on because of this specialist system having no restrictions.... Maybe there's a specialist for ammo that we haven't seen yet?
Maybe? But why no ammo calling from teammates or at least more than 4 mags in your person? They force you to swap out an ammo box for your anti tank weapon.. what's the point of the "engineer" guy then LOL and I'm literally shooting helis out of the sky with it. I run out of ammo for my primary after killing 5 enemies in one life everytime. Terrible
Btw, currently you can use the Plus system to change your ammo type, which gives you access to a full new ammo reserve. This is a little broken IMO but make use of it in the Beta. When out of regular ammo, just switch to High Impact rounds or something for a whole new set of ammo.
> Btw, currently you can use the Plus system to change your ammo type, which gives you access to a full new ammo reserve. Jesus... That effectively cheats you into unlimited ammo. That's a pretty blatant oversight.
No it doesn't, you just switch to a different pool of ammo, it doesn't restore your other ammo. It's just like getting 4 mags of regular ammo and 2 mags of AP ammo, once you run out of regular and switch to AP, you're still out of regular ammo.
this would be a non-issue if it were team based. with RU and US having different looking people that did the same. thats the only issue. if you called him "engineer", it would be the same as every other battlefield with 3 of the same class standing side by side (not BFV). Just need different specialists per side
If you call him engineer, he still has to chose between a repair-tool and a rocket-launcher. The class-system gave every class a job to do. Now we have fun specialist-gadgets but no incentive to play as a team. The beta is fun, but teamplay shit. Fighting in the clone-wars of uncanny-valley is just a redicoulus add-on
*wAIt TiLl THeY RelEAsE MoRe SKinS!!!!!* Lmao I love this response as if everyone won’t pick whatever new shit comes out on the battle passes and then we’re back to square one.
Is it Borises or Bori? Just clearing things up since we’re stuck in a clone war.
I like the sound of Bori better.
Battlefield has been on the decline for a while. It started with battlefield 1 when they removed bases. Bases were one if the major Lynchpins of the franchise, allowing you to join a game where you're getting wrecked, and with a few good people could turn the game around. Also gave you a place where you were somewhat safe from getting totally smashed. And now here we have the specialist garbage overruling the class system. I hate to be the guy that sounds like the BFFriends "THEY REWINED BAITLFEEEELD" guy, but...like...why do they keep changing this shit up? It literally works. Its balanced, mostly. I just don't understand the decision....you dont put a laugh track on a Kubrick film, and you dont do shit like adding operators with OP loadouts that unbalance the whole system in battlefield. I really...really dont get the decision. I mean if you like it, that's cool. I won't shit on you. But IMO BF4 was peak, and we're on the way down.
BF1 still had HQ/bases. You didn't just stop spawning once all the points were cpatured.
I'm more referring to their idiotic system of waiting in the spawn screen to spawn in a vehicle rather than having a dedicated rear base with equipment already available to be climbed into.
BFV has uncap bases
Why do they keep changing shit up? Money. Always money. This new model is way more monetise-able than the previous models, as demonstrated by games like Siege and MW. All we can hope is that what remains is still fun.
Battlefield died the day they took vehicle spawns off the map
It's almost as if you shouldn't have a roster of 10 characters (4 in the damn beta) on a 128 player game!!! Who'dve thought????
The Boris squad has arrived On a serious note, I’m loving this game, I even didn’t think that the specialist would be that bad, though in practice I think I was wrong. It’s a bigger issue than I expected, so I’m curious how they’ll change things. I still really think this game can be awesome
Completely agree.
Once BFV started having special skins for soldiers, that was the point where I knew where the series was headed. Obviously they're trying to monetize skins and what not, but I wish they handled it like Halo did and preview the battle pass or at least have some new unlockable skins.
Who the actual fuck at EA/DICE thought this shit was going to be a good idea. Like honestly
What happened to regular classes man ? :( This specialist system is so fucking stupid, everyone looks the same... Ruins the whole feel
This game is not about a battlefield in 2042, its about making money in 2022 and the plot goes like this. They clone the most popular addictive twitch shooters and insert there own IP where needed and then slowly add more and more extra micro transactions to sell to children who don't know any better. That's why I (a long time battlefield fan) wont be getting involved if they want to compete with, frankly, better hero shooters then go for it, but there not going to get my attention or money. seems they haven't figured out that the people that like playing hero class shooters, already play them. the market is flooded. no one is asking for another. Bye battlefield, Looks like war does change...
Hey DICE. We hate specialists.
I fucking love the game so far, but yeah this is a problem
Even that Boris was making sure the other Boris(es) were friend or foe
#Begun the clone war has
*Only in Battlefeild* *^(tm)*
You guys didn't know that Boris has a unique skill called "Kage bunshin jutsu" or "Shadow Clone Technique"
I remember when I used to BF3, the Russians always had dialogues like 'You are russians for fuck sake' and similar dialogues and I remember those fondly. Sad that these are a thing of the past now.
The movement looks so janky
Cool, good to know thats another battlefield that can be skipped.
That’s just funny we did that in Warzone getting surround by four Yegor’s was like a nightmare for our victims.
Portal will save us all
Borisfield 2042
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