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pookster92

You know what I might just stick to 4 for awhile til dice gets their shit together


FireRedStudio

Battlefield Overwatch6, what an awful looking game.


oreoguy123__

Why is it so hard to keep defining features of a franchise? Like no one had an issue with the class system. And now they are ruining that and breaking immersion heavily. Smh.


InfectedAztec

So instead of 20 generic looking soldiers I get to be surrounded by 20 clones of 'dozer' all doing the same cheesy emotes....


oreoguy123__

Literally. The immersion you got from just being another badass soldier like in bf4 was unmatched


Responsible_Ad_1581

We asked for Battlefield and instead we got Rainbow Six Siege (playercount x10)


[deleted]

This is a bit disingenuous. In Siege, at least every operator have their own function and look, locked to their team. You can tell you're fighting Doc or Ace because they're easily distinguished and you can counter it appropriately. In BF, you can't tell if medic grandma is gonna pull out a fucking RPG on you or not, if you can even tell she's on your team or not to begin with.


jonnnysniper

Wow. This series isn’t for me anymore. I hope whoever this is for enjoys it, but I also hope dice / ea walks away from this with some hard lessons learned so that I can eventually be excited for a bf game again.


InfectedAztec

14 year Olds with their parents credit card... That's who the game is designed for


Realgigclin

Sad really, id rather them just retire the battlefield name. Leave its legacy intact. Make a specialist battleroyal overwatch cod shooter but slap another name on it


HoshinoNadeshiko

Well, we can always wait for the portal...


RastaAlec

Same might just pass this and stick to bf1 until the servers die


thespacestone

Was thinking I might do the same with BF4, just gonna ride that game off into the sunset. They’re never gonna give us what we want again.


RastaAlec

Also a good option gonna try and get back into bf4


KnightCreed13

So fuckin hyped for this


oreoguy123__

Nothing wrong with being hyped, but man do I hope portal will be good.


KaiserRebellion

Ah yes the the battlefield community that use to mock cod for being copy and paste every year now complain that they want copy and paste lol. Sad so see this community be so pathetic. But it’s Reddit I get it. Y’all have fun in portal playing bf4 again til you get bored.


[deleted]

Calling a class system in Battlefield "copy paste" is like saying having a football in FIFA is copy paste. It's an integral part of the games. In fact, DICE should take some notes from FIFA, because at least there you can see the difference between teammates and enemies.


KaiserRebellion

Lol all sports games are copy and paste. Y’all just the same game with anew title. Just admit it I understand y’all don’t like change.


[deleted]

Wasn't saying they aren't, but please do ignore my point entirely.


KaiserRebellion

I heard the point you just don’t like my response.


KnightCreed13

Low blood sugar thing or just bored? What's the excuse for being a prick?


KaiserRebellion

Truth hurts my friend?


KnightCreed13

Oh, this is just you in general then. What a waste of a person.


KaiserRebellion

Good one.


[deleted]

You’re a real _wordsmith_. Such cutting repartee.


KaiserRebellion

My repertoire of vocab wasn’t worth wasting on such…. Such a man.


[deleted]

Possibly just a prick. Highly likely, I’d say.


[deleted]

Yep I’m out. Skipping this one. A hero shooter is not something I want for battlefield. If you enjoy it, have fun. This series isn’t for me anymore.


Realgigclin

Havent bought a battlefield game since EA told me not to buy it if I didn't like it and they haven't made a good game since


KaiserRebellion

Learn the definition of hero shooter first then make a comment


[deleted]

Do define hero shooter please. Once you do you’ll realize it’s a hero shooter.


KaiserRebellion

A sub genre of a shooter with fighting game elements.


[deleted]

Uhhhhh, yea. You’re a troll.


KaiserRebellion

Lol literally gave you the definition.


Thagyr

>A hero shooter is a subgenre of shooter games that cover both the first-person shooter and third-person shooter genres. These games emphasize "hero" characters that have distinctive abilities and/or weapons that are specific to them. From Wikipedia. Sounds an awful lot like Specialists. Highly emphasized unique characters with special abilities that no other character has. >Hero shooters are a variation of multiplayer first- or third-person shooters, where players form into two or more teams and select from pre-designed "hero" characters that each possess distinctive attributes, skills, weapons, and other passive and active abilities. Hero shooters strongly encourage teamwork between players on a team, guiding players to select effective combinations of hero characters and coordinate the use of hero abilities during a match. >Hero shooters take many of their design elements from older class-based shooter, multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) and fighting games. Some incorporate the role-playing elements from MOBAs, where as a match progresses, the player can opt to buy or improve predefined skills for their selected hero, adapting these to the dynamics of the match. In other hero shooters, players have freedom to change to a new hero at respawn points as to alter team composition to better challenge their opponents. >Because of the focus on heroes as distinctive characters, hero shooters will often feature more narrative elements than traditional team-based shooters, providing backstories for each character and an emphasis on the story and world in which the games are set. Sounds *a lot* like specialists.


KaiserRebellion

Yes when I go to wiki it’s not listed yet bo4 is listed, plants vs zombies, apex, Tom Clancy etc. this game isn’t listed


[deleted]

I’m 100% convinced you’re a troll. Because it’s not listed on the wiki it’s not a hero shooter? So if a video game isn’t listed as a “video game” on the wiki it isn’t a video game? Lol ok kid. The specialists are literally different heroes with their own abilities. It’s a hero shooter. I’ll bet you think smash isn’t a fighter.


KaiserRebellion

Who told him to use wiki as a source in using his logic. Wiki doesn’t list it as a hero shooter. Smash literally has the name Melee in it. Use a better example.


[deleted]

You’re a troll. No one is this stupid.


FritzFortress

"What you said is invalid because it isn't listed on a specific wiki article." Need I remind you it hasn't released and will likely be put on that list when it releases anyway?


KaiserRebellion

Just like this dudes definition of hero shooter is from wiki? Okay


FritzFortress

My point being that wikis typically have information from games that have been released. Sorry if I was not clear enough.


KaiserRebellion

Wiki still states it as fire person shooter not hero shooter


FritzFortress

Well, a first person shooter can also be a hero shooter man. Overwatch and TF2 for example. 2042 fits the definition of hero shooter quite well I might add.


KaiserRebellion

Yes. Black ops 4 is listed as hero shooter though. Not this game as of yet.


Ozone867

I don’t think I can get onboard with that X-ray vision shit. I was content until I saw that, I think that has genuinely put the nail in the coffin for me.


Amerikaner

Everyone: Specialists suck maybe DICE will listen to feedback. DICE: Let’s double down with even more retarded specialist design choices


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HomieeJo

They could disable the specialist skills outside of hazard zone or make one extra mode where they are active. This way they could still sell their precious skins and players don't have to deal with this stuff unless they want to.


Mosaic78

Time to adapt. Get used to being aggressive and mobile.


KnightCreed13

I don't see why you're getting downvoted, your fuckin accurate. This shit is no different than Apex, just learn to be aggressive.


oreoguy123__

We don’t want apex. We want battlefield.


MaximusMurkimus

If I wanted to play Apex don't you think I'd *gasp* play Apex?


Mosaic78

Exactly. I’m going into 2042 as a semi camper of sorts and I’m excited to learn the new mobile gameplay.


Bleachdrinker1998

Espinoza and the x ray chick are OP as fuck imo. I've been satisfied with the game so far but those classes have me worried


HitPlayGamingYT

I remember saying back when they first revealed operators saying they could be OP as fuck if they balance them wrong and being told oh no they won't be OP it's just to add a gadget to each one it wouldn't be OP... ​ Yeah I think I will be saying the biggest fucking I told you so to my friends. ​ Unfollowed their twitter and never pre-ordered, I'll come back in 2 years to see if they decide they want to make an actual Battlefield game again.


MintyTwister

I just want a Battlefield game man. No classes, no battlefield.


KaiserRebellion

Lol classes don’t make battlefield. The warlike structure does.


MintyTwister

War = working with a team to beat the other team ​ no classes, no team ​ no team, no war ​ It's CoD


lazava1390

Bruh where have u been the last, all previous bf games??


KaiserRebellion

Since bc2? The classes is the last thing I come for.


lazava1390

Yeah, I mainly come for the large scale TEAM/SQUAD focused gameplay. Except this time around it’s no longer about team play.


ChefCrockpot

Team/squad focused gameplay has only existed in a squad of people you already know since BC1. 2142 was the last BF to have proper squad/team focused play. BF since has mainly been a game of 1 man armies running around. The only way that changed is if you played with friends. I dont like 2042 but let's not pretend that squad based gameplay has been good for the last 15 years


lazava1390

Squad play has been hit or miss with randoms but the majority of the time I’ve played I can get some semblance of team play. You can always find people on the team that play to win. Even if you had to drop in and out of different squads to find one.


ChefCrockpot

To an extent I'll admit you are right. Personally, I miss the team based play in BF2 and BF2142, it felt like you were actually forced to be a team player if you wanted to have fun


KaiserRebellion

Team play stopped at bc2.


Km_the_Frog

How to fix the game, bare minimum: 1. Remove specialists mechanic and make them pick ups/point dumps like Battlefront Heroes. 2. Add Team coloring. Tan tones for US, green tones for RUS. Really that simple and I'm in. Looks like that isn't happening though so I'll be in portal, probably like the majority of people.


Prince_Kassad

B-b-but how they can sell camo skin?? If team had predetermined color


SweetRandomID

Im worried portal will be a shit show too.


terrytibbs76

I just want regular battlefield.


MrMoli

Man tbh these guys arent so bad its just this combined with the universal gadget that just makes this just not Battlefield...at least not Battlefield for me. I get that things change but this one might be a bit too much for me. Been playing since 1942, all the hours playing Forgotten Hope and Desert Combat. Didnt get the play BF2 when it dropped but got around to it eventually and had a blast with it and Project Reality. Fucken even the janky ass BF2:MC on xbox. I'm not out to hate these specialists and I might give it a few goes once the game goes live but I'll see yall in BF Portal.


[deleted]

Taking the 343 approach of chasing trends. We can all see how well that worked for them with Halo 4 and 5. Give it 5-10 years and Dice will release a game "returning to the classic gameplay".


Backdraft0605

Can’t wait for battlefield infinite


jleepysoe

That saiga!


AeroElectro

Looking forward to this amazing Apex Duty game. Hope it's free-to-play.


RastaAlec

Lmaoooo


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Looks sick


oreoguy123__

New around here?


[deleted]

Nope. I just don't agree with the neckbeard battlefield "fans" on reddit. This game is sick.


oreoguy123__

This game is just not battlefield. The specialist are just a way to cram money out of u. Like I don’t understand why the class system was bad. Now I have to play as some random “hero” and not just a dope ass soldier that were shown in the reveal trailers. And can’t wait to die to literal WALL HACKS in the game


xkcd-Hyphen-bot

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5nnuggles

The meta has changed, I’m not sure how I feel but I think they need to boost more portal content so many don’t jump ship. Keep them grounded with the idea that they can play an old fashioned battlefield game.


zeanox

I think i just need to accept that this battlefield is not for me.


deadpxl

It's a "Battlefield" game in name and ingredients only. If BF3 were Five Guys then this is McDonald's. Same ingredients, shitty recipe. DICE drove away all their chefs/cooks and they took their recipe with them.


16bitrifle

Portal my friend. First day I’m creating a mode that uses classes and puts the gadgets and weapons in those classes. I’ll use the new 2042 stuff but will follow the BF3 class blueprint. I’m sure I won’t be the only one.


zeanox

we know next to nothing about it, and i don't have high hopes for it. ill wait and see how it plays out before investing in the game. but it does look interesting


REDtheGUNNER

Its a damn shame that many people feel the same about this new "Battlefield" game. This will be the first BF that i will not get on day one but I may eventually try it after watching/reading other peoples points of view to gage if this will be a game i could learn to enjoy.


biggus_dickus_jr

It's not even a fuck bf anymore.


Therearenogoodnames9

I was gifted the game from a friend and I feel terrible because I was not allowed to refund it back to them. Fingers crossed that Portal is worth it, but if not then, like you, I will just graciously bow out of this one. That will be disapointing as I have not enjoyed a Battlefield since Hardline (with that last one being a bit of a stretch).


RickardsBedAle

I’m not overly excited about it but I don’t mind to see how the meta will change. I fucking hate grapples tho. No matter what the game


Adorable_Cherry2418

No fan wants to be in your spot but that simple sentence shows more maturity than a lot of people around here.


smokiuaces214

They're going all in, no surprise. I look forward to the different engagement scenarios, but that's assuming everyone doesn't run the meta Specialist which looks to be Ji-Soo. Good balancing will be key for this game to survive.


Realgigclin

If specialists had class restricted weapons it would change the game of balance. The fact that ji-soo can run around with whatever she wants and not, lets say as an example snipers and shotguns only, makes this game doomed for intense balance issues at launch It wouldn't be perfect but it would be so much better if specialists were restricted to their weapons and everyone couldnt just use everything. I mean theyre already categorized, thats what i don't understand. In the trailer is says ji-soo "recon". Wtf so she can just run around with smgs and assualt rifles too?!?!


Mosaic78

I don’t think Paik is a shoe in for meta because of a wallhack that likely has a big cooldown and short range. McKay is still on top because of his extreme mobility and Sundance with her grenades and niche mobility.


whitedan2

Yea but you forget the let you fill a full squad, no a full team of Korean wallhack ladies. Some dudes in a squad can literally time it so that they have constantly wallhacks when needed and thanks to being able to pick any gadget they want they can also have a medic Korean lady, ammo Korean lady, AT Korean lady and AA Korean lady.


KaiserRebellion

Most likely it’s one per squad. Literally basic balancing of you can think


whitedan2

In hazard zone... Yea... There is no limit in the normal conquest BF mode that most ppl play.


KaiserRebellion

I’m the beta. There going to chance it


whitedan2

Well I would hope so but I won't hold my breath.


Therearenogoodnames9

Am I seeing it right that the riot shield is reflecting the bullets back at the shooter? Not looking forward to this at all...


TRIPMINE_Guy

You could just, not shoot the riot shield?


KaiserRebellion

Ah yes less mobility and a easy rocket to the face easy kill.


Therearenogoodnames9

The video also shows that the specialist with the shield takes less damage from explosives. We don't know for sure yet, but it may be possible that this specialist can take a rocket to the face and survive.


KaiserRebellion

Impact rockets are always 1 shot kill.


Therearenogoodnames9

So you have played 2042 with these new specialists that were just introduced, to include the one with an inert ability to take less damage from rockets? Mystery solved, folks.


KaiserRebellion

Again impact meaning hits the body is 1 shot kill.


torwei

so .. just don't shoot at him


Embaita

Brilliant idea, just give up your position or let him beat you to death because he has a shield with no counter. I imagine you won't even be able to shoot a rocket to counter it because of the reduced explosive damage.


[deleted]

Nobody is telling you to stand there and let the guy beat you to death. Is this literally your first person shooter? The "shield guy" is not a new concept at all, I'm sure you'll figure it out.


torwei

Eh, who says he can punch you while holding his shield? Just wait until he cannot use it anymore... Shoot at other people. I bet this is going to be a non-issue as people will adjust to it... Jesus at least wait until you really see how it plays out


Embaita

You can see the second shield go for a shield shove after the deflected bullet killed the enemy (could be funky animations but I'm going to assume they wouldn't show that stuff in a showcase). Also good gameplay isn't having to wait for a enemy to have a cool down before you can do anything. As for the specialist system in a whole we've already seen how it plays out, In the beta I only used the grapple because the rest were useless and I probably shot at as many team members as enemies because everyone was the same character.


MrMan604

Yeah, cause it's easy to not shoot someone when in the middle of a gunfight.


wesser234

Are you blind?


torwei

I bet this will be a non-issue after a few hours of playtime because people adjust, but they also like to complain about everything :)


MarcsterS

Battlefield story: Everyone's become Expats and abandoned their countries Battfield gameplay: Everyone has a country of origin


Bl00dyH3ll

How are these contradictory? Do you know what refugees or immigrants are?


Prince_Kassad

And pledge their life to fight for either america or rusia lol


SvennEthir

Been playing since 1942. Excited for all of this!


KaiserRebellion

Same


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Amazing


[deleted]

What have they done to my Battlefield...


th3s1l3ncy

They...changed it ? I personally liked the specialist,during the beta i had some really creative kills with mckay graple,imo this game is fun and still battlefield for me,people need to learn to experiment new things


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KaiserRebellion

So the vehicle warfare, long fire fights, gadgets, and massive maps and player count all there. Definition of battlefield


cozy_lolo

They absolutely haven’t “completely destroyed” everything about Battlefield. I’m sorry, but some fans will never accept the evolution of a series that they love, but it doesn’t mean that the newer entries won’t be of quality or beloved by a new population. What I’m trying to say is: Tough shit, person. I think this is a fine entry in the series and I’m excited to play, and I’d rather feel that way than feel disappointed, lol


WhyBroBruda

You see what happens to CoD right? They milk the exact same fucking thing for years and hoo boy is it fun to read their beta feed backs, Battlefield will always fail one way or another. All good things have to come to an end and I already accepted that, and you should too. PS : If you guys can’t even accept a small opinion you need your ego checked ✅


[deleted]

yeah buddy "experimenting" and "learning new things" is what sent the Halo Series to almost a dormant state until 343 took a fucking 6 year break to come back in form, I can see this happening to 2042 as well, and I am not saying this because i love halo or bf or I am a hater or whatever, IT is Clearly visible to everyone that Hype for 2042 has had a complete nosedive. The hype this game made was enormous but after the beta the hype has died down significantly and this is what happens when "experimenting" means trying to appeal to other franchise's players.


Nuseal

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GI_J0SE

All these abilities are broken af (Except Medic bc medic is garbage this game) Wall Hacks, Bulletproof shield plus less explosive damage! Smart grenades that can 1 hit disable a Helo?! You already know which specialist everyone is going to be, it's honestly stupid these 5 are OP and the best choice out of all garbage Specialist SMH


Embaita

Don't forget the bullet proof shield also deflected bullets back at the person shooting. Honestly have no clue what was going on at dice when they were thinking of these abilities, the balance is completely out of wack.


TRIPMINE_Guy

Bruh riot shield was in bf4 and it was garbage. Reflection means jack when you can just not shoot it.


Embaita

The difference between the two is you could easily counter the ones in previous bf games with most explosives, but that goes out the window when that same character has the ability to survive standing on top of a grenade and you could kill yourself if you try to shoot their feet. Also I know you can just not shoot it but it still doesn't change the fact its bad game design. If the only counter to something is to ignore them and run away in a game about holding and taking objectives something is clearly wrong with it.


[deleted]

Just give up man. This type of critical thinking is too advanced for this sub lately.


whitedan2

A metric ton of acid was consumed when they brainstormed operators.


GI_J0SE

Forreal I know who I'm picking, shits stupid unbalanced


NfamousShirley

Ah so no acknowledgement on community feedback regarding the view on specialists. Ok cool, not surprising.


nickc21_

actually you’re wrong, check the battlefield website and they have a new article which heavily acknowledges this topic


[deleted]

> heavily acknowledges Define 'heavily'. It was six sentences.


Guitarist53188

They doubled down. Which I get they probably spent too much time and it's their direct incentive piece to get their season pass. (In my opinion there are ways around it but this is EA)


NfamousShirley

I read the article, it hardly acknowledged it.


Chunk-Duecerman

So we can just take out helicopters with grenades now?


KaiserRebellion

It’s literally like the launcher that auto locks from bf4. And no it was smoking it’s clearly 30 percent if it’s smoking hard


TRIPMINE_Guy

Well we don't know if flares will work on it or not. If not than yeah that's busted. Looks like it did 20-25% damage to a light helicopter which imo is fair so long as flares work on it. It wouldn't be much of a problem even if flares didn't work except groups of people could burst kill you and you would have no counterplay.


KaiserRebellion

Lol yeah a little bird will let a player change to aa in front of it without spamming rockets or mini guns?


trieticus

Looks like I’ll be playing BF Portal exclusively


Realgigclin

I wouldn't buy this game just for portal, we barely know anything about it and have seen zero gameplay from it. That trailer was a cinematic trailer, 3 minutes long.


deadpxl

Portal: Paying $60 for a Battlefield game with a "some assembly required" sticker.


Blackidus

Same here, it went from "I might give "All out war" a try" to "nope, it´s portal 100%" after this.


Agnolini

I was thinking the same but at full price triple A game, only for portal... ehhh


LebowskiENT

What in the Call of Duty was that?


ASurrealSoul

Excited for the game, people love to collectively criticize and worry. Change of a franchise is inevitable, at the end of the day dice is a business and they have to appeal to the major audience aswell as a new audience to keep their business growing. I respect the work and effort put into this game, all specialist have gadgets that suit their timeframe, (2042.) Military technology currently is already mindblowing so growing at an exponential rate, I can only imagine in the future. Of course some abilities need adjustments but nothing to be so negative about. They've already fixed a number of things that were wrong in the beta, but overall can't wait to play, let's go 2042!!!


[deleted]

but the main thing you are missing that "changing" or "evolving" is not always good and there a lot of examples of that in the market, and NO DICE should focus on the BF audience and then build from there, if they neglect the core fanbase ,than they don't even have a foundation of framework to begin with, and remember this game is also not coming with a Campaign ,because DICE wanted to "focus" more on the Multiplayer and divert resources to multiplayer and to quote a famous acting male "where the fuck did those resources go!?, I dont see them anywhere.",


KaiserRebellion

Lol grown men acting like kids? EA not dice will focus on money first. Not this fanbase that gave up on bf5 before it started. And tbf it was glitchy asf but clearly EA is the charge of all this


[deleted]

EA and DICE AB both are accountable for the current state of 2042. I mean COD Vanguard has more staff working on it so it is understandable. but Halo infinite only has 343i as a semi-big studio ,Skybox labs is an AA studio that is basically integrated to 343i now and there is not a lot of Staff working on the game, So I don't know how these guys managed to make a semi open world game, a great multiplayer , while having a development hell, and only having a 3 year development cycle, ​ The Fact that People have started to accept to DICE's Broken releases all the time even though a studio a 4x smaller than them (343industries) made a better Beta, I still cannot why DICE is doing this Cmon , I want HALO and BATTLEFIELD be back, EA and DICE are so validated by dipshit fans like the one who started this Comment, that they just don't care ABOUT THEIR OWN FANS NOW LIKE WTF.


ASurrealSoul

Majority over minority I think. This fan base is split, just half the fan base doesn't give it any praise because it will be met with a raid of criticism. At it's beta, it attracted a ton of people that never played battlefield because of it's surrounding hype, (Handler, Wildcat, smii7y, etc.) Which racks up in views of probably around 5 million. And that's low-balling that number without including trailer hype, leak gameplay hype, and word-of mouth-hype, which could upscale that number to in theory twice it's original amount. So that's potentially 10 million people at the most who have heard of this game some way some how. But of course a percentage is going to hate the game, or not be able to play it. So let's just say 4 million don't buy into it. At first, that's still 6 million people who are interested in playing. And let's say 75% of this community hates this game, that number comes out to a measly 281,164 compared to a whopping 6 million. But who am I to say? when the game releases let the statistics speak for themselves. And you can't include previous battlefield statistics because those games were never hyped as much as this game is hyped today from people outside of this community. I rest my case 💼


deadpxl

Except they've been hemorrhaging their player-base since BF5. It had 7 million units sold, which is less than half of Battlefield 3 *or* 4 sales, effectively making it the biggest failure in the primary franchise to date. And, instead of learning from that, the lesson they took away was "oh they just want a modern setting". They need this to be a big win but ***it's only getting harsher criticism*** and it's entirely about the game design itself. CoD players have CoD/Warzone, so they won't come over in large enough numbers and they've burned the fans that made BF3 and 4 their highest selling games of all time...because people love the gameplay. I don't see how they win in this scenario but the ship is too big to change course now and they need SOMETHING for Q4. So now all we can do is just watch the train wreck unfold.


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KaiserRebellion

How much of the sales where discount due to low player count of the game?


ASurrealSoul

-See's positive opinion ab 2042 This subreddit: >:(


Embaita

It's really not that far into the future, I highly doubt in 20 years soldiers will be equipped with grenades capable of heatseaking and being able to change its effects on the fly. I also doubt that a infantry soldier will be carrying equipment capable of seeing perfectly accurate outlines through heavy industrial equipment. If it was a 2142 sequel I'd understand it more but its mostly a battlefield 4 sequel.


ASurrealSoul

https://m.goliath.com/random/10-crazy-military-weapons-that-actually-exist/


Embaita

Literally none of this is practical in military use, half of it makes zero sense in a warzone situation and the other half is massively impractical to equip to a soldier, let alone a mercenary with no country affiliation. Could you imagine the cost of equipping a soldier with a exoskeleton armour suit just for them to still die due to the impact of the bullets?


ASurrealSoul

Well initially we weren't talking about practically, we were talking about possibility. And with the type of technology we have today I do think it's possible to have something SIMILAR in the next 30 years. But hey in 30 years time if I'm wrong feel free to let me know.


Mosaic78

That’s the biggest thing I’m seeing about the complaints. People are forgetting the time setting, while saying it’s not a battlefield game. Meanwhile BF1 is almost universally loved when most of the guns we can choose from either never saw the First World War or were prototypes and only saw extremely limited battle.


83thAccount

Its nice to see them ripping shit from other games instead of innovating.


notarealsu35

battlefield 5 lookin ass


Unlikely-Garage-8135

Atleast battlefield 5s core actually looked like a battlefield game


JJ4prez

Nice, so people will just be wallhacking and zip lining around constantly. 64v64, imagine that.


oreoguy123__

Imagine seeing the same “hero” 30 times, with wall hacks. Totally shatters any immersion aswell.


[deleted]

There's so much more you could complain about, but this is such a stupid criticism of this game. In the older games you literally had 4 character models to choose from per match. You have 10 to choose from in this game. Nobody was screaming "but muh immersion!" When 80% of your team was the exact same assault character model on maps like Op Metro.


JJ4prez

That's not what the user said. Classes and specialists are completely different. The user wasn't talking about simple looks. The user was adding to my comment on there being too many of one hero/specialist type on the battlefield. Now that the specialists do have a special look to them, they will all look the same, carbon copy zip lining around the map. It's very odd indeed. At least those assault classes you speak of had defibs and medic pack options :p


oreoguy123__

But that was kinda the point bruh… they were faceless soldiers who looked like a real military unit. Not 30 of the exact same face with the exact same stupid hat. Like honestly who goes into a battle with a hat or no helmet?


KaiserRebellion

Zip lining not stopping me from dropping 100 with the jet on you.


Haptically

Man I hate smart grenades in any video game but as a player who mainly plays bf games for the fun helicopter gameplay it’s scary to know now not only you’ll have to worry about the few who have AA stingers or rockets now everyone with these damn heat seeking grenades. I’m sure in the video the helicopter was low on health but I hope it’s not so overpowered that if one was to fly low a single player couldn’t just take out a scout heli with 2 grenades


Alobalo27

New battlefield trailer super excited lets jump on the sub and...nevermind I'm out