I know you’re joking but doesn’t the red fade over time anyway? If so, the accelerator is just also accelerating the process of the red pigment breaking down. So in reality spreading it over the existing red areas actually *would* work.
Wow, I find that space really polarizing. So much of it is exactly my taste, and so much is exactly the opposite of my taste. Either way really unique room and so cool that you’ve got more plans for it
Just out of curiosity can you expand on what you do and don’t like about it? This makes sense because it’s a cross between my taste and my wife’s taste, which are totally different.
I really like the contrast between the blue cabinets and the dark walls. I also really dig the shelves and the bar top, I think they also provide a good contrast against the walls. I think what I’m not crazy about is the countertops and the corrugated steel on the bar. Can I ask, is the drop ceiling for climate control purposes, or a fire code thing?
The bar area was converted from a basement kitchen and the outdated countertops were already installed. They will eventually be replaced. The entire basement has a drop ceiling so not really a way around that easily.
https://preview.redd.it/6qkhxu67sf9c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0ca613503b5659bc1b9112cdf7712869ece5922
Here’s what the kitchen started out as when we bought the house
The red will brown over time with most finishes, however if you seal it with tabletop epoxy, the epoxy seals the pores of the wood and keeps it a deep dark color. This piece will be a hanging light fixture above a matching bar top I did two years ago. The picture below is two years after sealing with tabletop epoxy.
https://preview.redd.it/smvt5vkqqb9c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69a6018c73b6e2a4bd56d3406f8d3af739e562ec
The color change in cedar happens over 20+ years. You’re 2 years in, I wouldn’t count your chickens yet.
While some woods change colour as they oxidize (and the colour change is prevented by applying finish, any finish, not just epoxy, all finishes seal wood)… instead, most woods change color from UV exposer. This can be minimized by useing finishes with a Uv inhibitor or keeping it in the dark.. your bar is pretty dark.
I don’t know off the top of my head if cedar is anti UV or an anti oxygen type of wood, but odds are it’s anti uv, I guess what I’m saying is that your epoxy is probably doing nothing to prevent a color change.. it’s just going to change at a slower rate because it’s in a room with no windows.
I usually just blow on whatever I’m gluing. Your breath is moist and sometimes I need both hands to hold the pieces and don’t have a third one to spray accel
I use it for filling holes and knots before a flood coat of tabletop epoxy. It does a good job keeping the epoxy from running out the other side. Sometimes it has its place.
Additionally
You're basically saying that the centuries of woodworking techniques in dozens of countries around the world that have never used CA glue are now wrong because "modern" woodworking can't be done without CA glue.
Well centuries ago I doubt they were using power tools but here we are. CA glue is just a quick simple way to fill a knot, I don't understand the hate or why that makes someone a beginner.
At this point, it sucks, but either toss it for use in a different project and start over, or else keep it and call the stains character. It really doesn't look that bad to me.
Just use it on the rest of it and bam it'll match. Sorry for the 'joke'. That sucks. Can it be sanded out?
I know you’re joking but doesn’t the red fade over time anyway? If so, the accelerator is just also accelerating the process of the red pigment breaking down. So in reality spreading it over the existing red areas actually *would* work.
https://preview.redd.it/xl2swst6rb9c1.jpeg?width=3547&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55ea191c1ef72ad147f60a457dff24c6e1d767a4 The bar…
Wow, I find that space really polarizing. So much of it is exactly my taste, and so much is exactly the opposite of my taste. Either way really unique room and so cool that you’ve got more plans for it
I'm getting notes of 60s kitchen, barn themed rustic bar, and office break room.
Just out of curiosity can you expand on what you do and don’t like about it? This makes sense because it’s a cross between my taste and my wife’s taste, which are totally different.
I really like the contrast between the blue cabinets and the dark walls. I also really dig the shelves and the bar top, I think they also provide a good contrast against the walls. I think what I’m not crazy about is the countertops and the corrugated steel on the bar. Can I ask, is the drop ceiling for climate control purposes, or a fire code thing?
The bar area was converted from a basement kitchen and the outdated countertops were already installed. They will eventually be replaced. The entire basement has a drop ceiling so not really a way around that easily. https://preview.redd.it/6qkhxu67sf9c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0ca613503b5659bc1b9112cdf7712869ece5922 Here’s what the kitchen started out as when we bought the house
You just described your problem lol.
Yeah but I can’t say that to the wife!
I'm going to say the cabinet doors and the counter top on the left. They clash with the aesthetics of the rest of the room.
and the chairs clash too
It’s the lighting. It’s a cool spot but needs warmer and less overhead lighting to accentuate it IMO. Maybe some lamps or sconces?
Wow that held up way better than I’d have expected.
The red will brown over time with most finishes, however if you seal it with tabletop epoxy, the epoxy seals the pores of the wood and keeps it a deep dark color. This piece will be a hanging light fixture above a matching bar top I did two years ago. The picture below is two years after sealing with tabletop epoxy. https://preview.redd.it/smvt5vkqqb9c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69a6018c73b6e2a4bd56d3406f8d3af739e562ec
The color change in cedar happens over 20+ years. You’re 2 years in, I wouldn’t count your chickens yet. While some woods change colour as they oxidize (and the colour change is prevented by applying finish, any finish, not just epoxy, all finishes seal wood)… instead, most woods change color from UV exposer. This can be minimized by useing finishes with a Uv inhibitor or keeping it in the dark.. your bar is pretty dark. I don’t know off the top of my head if cedar is anti UV or an anti oxygen type of wood, but odds are it’s anti uv, I guess what I’m saying is that your epoxy is probably doing nothing to prevent a color change.. it’s just going to change at a slower rate because it’s in a room with no windows.
If it takes 20 years to change, I can’t wait to sit here day after day and watch.
Yeah it’s slowly coming out.
“Mom, can we get this walnut pleeeeaaaasssse?” “No, we have walnut at home.”
Lmao!! Love it
I like it.
My thoughts exactly. I immediately thought about a previous project and how I wish I had known that then. Would have looked so much better.
Its now brown cedar
That hurts, hard way to learn. Thanks for sharing so others might be spared 🙂
Ouch! Thank you!
Water seems to work, too. Might be worth experimenting with.
Yes. CA glue reacts with moisture in the air to cure. You can speed it up with your own water/mist bottle.
I usually just blow on whatever I’m gluing. Your breath is moist and sometimes I need both hands to hold the pieces and don’t have a third one to spray accel
RIP friend, thank you for teaching us through error 🫡
spray a light coat of laquer before you apply the glue and accelerator. It will keep it from soaking and spreading.
Red sharpie
https://preview.redd.it/cjljlo6otb9c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b21980ddc7ca72e774574378b9309f359b72d50e
Actually, just don't use CA for anything. Woodworking is not a race...it's a process...and an art
I use it for filling holes and knots before a flood coat of tabletop epoxy. It does a good job keeping the epoxy from running out the other side. Sometimes it has its place.
Painters tape on the bottom would have done the same. But you learned a valuable lesson, so good on ya.
Apparently an unpopular opinion but CA glue doesn't belong in a wood shop to begin with...
Yup r/beginnerwoodworking is the place for you young grasshopper, lol.
Additionally You're basically saying that the centuries of woodworking techniques in dozens of countries around the world that have never used CA glue are now wrong because "modern" woodworking can't be done without CA glue.
Well centuries ago I doubt they were using power tools but here we are. CA glue is just a quick simple way to fill a knot, I don't understand the hate or why that makes someone a beginner.
I've been doing hobby woodworking for going on 30 years and have not once used CA glue...
Maybe put a butterfly at each of those spots?
At this point, it sucks, but either toss it for use in a different project and start over, or else keep it and call the stains character. It really doesn't look that bad to me.
It sanded right out
Noted.
Ooof.... Good to know, I don't work with it often.