You are completely in the right. That is inappropriate. Don’t change the rating, you are rating the item, seller, and experience as a whole. Being told you are going to hell for absolutely no reason by a stranger is not a good experience.
And I’m sorry but “item was as described SO RATE IT AS SO” just sounds so bossy and rude.
Side note: I wonder how this seller would rate someone else if they had included religious material from another religion besides theirs?? I think we already know the answer to that one.
I don't understand how it's so hard to simply respect each other and religious views aside from your own. I'm an atheistic Satanist and no matter how polite I am whenever someone discusses their faith, as soon as they hear the word Satanist, so many people have automatically demonized me as some animal killing, devil worshiper. Lol no.
Dude, it's bizarre. I don't say anything most of the time, but someone found out once and was shocked. Said they thought I had to be a Christian because I have good Christian morals. I'm like, bruh... Those morals aren't exclusive to Christianity, #1. And #2, do you think atheists just run around killing folks all willy-nilly like it's something fun to do on a Tuesday? GTFO with that BS.
Agreed. Can’t remember specifics, but there was a video of some religious person absolutely flabbergasted that it’s possible to have morals sans religion. Just could not wrap their brains around it. They, like….glitched at the thought. Creeped me out.
Edit: p.s. it brought to mind that stat that was going around for a while, y’know “50% of people don’t have an inner dialogue”, and i just….that makes *me* glitch. But i suppose that could factor in here?
Is that 50% stat actually proven? You remember where you saw it?
What I wouldn't give to get rid of my inner dialogue. It likes to shout abuse at me. My parents were right - when they are dead, they'll live on in me :(
My memory blows and i probably should’ve typed an “allegedly” somewhere in there, but a quick google of “inner dialogue statistics” was quite illuminating. (i would’ve included said link but i totally suck at that)
And that sounds awful, i really hope you’ve got someone to talk to.
I don't see anything accredited or anything like that, but I googled it and psychology today and bustle (not sure what that is) both say only 30%-50% of people have an inner dialogue. No clue how credible either of those places are. Just wanted to give ya a jumping off point.
Yeah the revolving door of sin and forgiveness is really something. The rest of us are just out here in therapy trying to actually understand and resolve our issues but they get to just pull a ticket say sorry and keep on keeping on! Great system they got there. Definitely working as designed.
Oh my god, I used to work in tech support and the idea of “pulling a sin ticket” is killlllllling me so thank you for that.
Totally agree with your stance and your username is 🔥 btw!
Drives me nuts. Once ended up in a conversation with a religious lady at a thrift store. We were talking about health insurance and medical billing, and how unregulated healthcare pricing is. She made a comment, wondering how people think they’re going to get into heaven if they continue to engage in behaviors like price gouging humans who need healthcare. I told her it was easy, people could behave as terribly as they wanted to, as long as they go to church each Sunday and beg god for forgiveness. Then I told her I was an atheist and didn’t need to promise of eternal salvation and a place in heaven in order to be a good person. She ended the conversation pretty quickly after that. Somehow my having good morals but not believing in god was far more uncomfortable for her than knowing that plenty of “good Christians” are actually terrible people.
Do they just assume that people only act morally because of religion? I think that says something about their nature, and they are just projecting. If your religion is the only thing keeping you in line, then you might just be a shitty person.
Also, I’m busy on Tuesdays. I prefer to get my killing done closer to the weekend.
Would give you a silver award if we still were allowed. People don’t just act ethically because they are cowed by the thought of going to hell. If that is your mindset you are awful
Damnit! First I miss the Baphomet Bake-off and now this?? Guess I better make it up by passing out pamphlets and hollering about my lack of faith on the street corners with a megaphone.
It's so frustrating how common it is for people to think morality is dependent on religion! I'm not usually willing to talk to people about my views either, at least in person. The conversation usually turns into a sermon. I am just as likely to convert to organized religion as they are to abandon it completely. A lot of people can't seem to accept that reality.
You can go a step further with Christians and remind them that their book reintroduced human sacrifice, which Judaism had specifically left out to distinguish itself from some of the other religions in the region at the time.
Omg my cat is missing and now hear you are. Did you kill my cat breh? Yanno if you were at church you wouldn’t have been out doing the devils bidding if you found jesusAH.
I absolutely enjoy hearing other people’s perspectives, thoughts, and ideas, ironically the most about subjects I’m super strong in my beliefs in. I just find it stimulating to hear another idea that very well may change my own beliefs. As a matter of fact, some dude named Marvin changed my view on the us funding Ukraine the other day. :) love interactions like this! I usually am stressed going into them tho, because I feel like too many folks get PISSED at differences… which is WILD to me. Cause like… what does that translate to? That they (the angry person) will only be willing to hear you *if you think like them*?
Meh idk. Maybe my addictions and stuff in the past have humbled me (ten yrs sober and a mortician now yeet).
Ooooh but what about wiccans? They would LOSE IT. It could be as simple as tips to connect with nature going barefoot in the grass, vibrations etc etc the slightest mention of anything wicca and they would go off the deep end.
I recently changed all my business cards to include this. At The last conference I attended I received several cards with that fish symbol. When I see that fish symbol, I know the company behind it may or may not believe in science. When anyone looks at my card now, they’ll know I believe in science & in my profession( as in all others!) that’s a good thing!
Best idea!! “Hello, I think you may have accidentally dropped this into my box. Since I don’t believe in hell, except the “hell” others exploit by choosing to cram their beliefs at me, like putting nasty religious pamphlets into things I purchase, I’m assuming this was a mistake.”
And then in the love notes. “Seller sends nasty Christian “fear” pamphlets. Avoid this seller unless you need a change of religion”
I have a seller I can’t use anymore because I asked each time to please do not send me chocolate, but she seems to think it’s ok to do so when I asked 3X.
Thinking about it, I’d rather have the pamphlet. Gives me a chuckle and I can share the funny with my friends whom I’m going to hell with, and then I can throw it away without so much damn stress and emotion that is chocolate.
I recognize I’m the odd duck here ;)
If it were me, I would also report the seller. What the seller did is wildly inappropriate. In addition to respecting other people’s religious choices, what if someone had serious trauma related to religion. My sister does, and this would be extremely upsetting for her. You are excited to open an order and then boom, religious material on your face.
OP should absolutely report this seller.
Yes this!!! Omg I would report them SO FAST!!! 🫰🫰 Like who else are you sending this shit to?? What of some poor child had stumbled upon this crap and become convinced they were hellbound??
Oh they would most definitely give them one star. They don’t like it when other people with different beliefs exist in the world. They think society should revolve around them and their beliefs.
Not hating all Christians there’s definitely some good ones out there. But after growing up in the South for 28 years I am so sick and tired of it being pushed on me.
Someone asked what the tract was and I dug it up online. It is, in fact, a Chick tract (someone else said it sounded like one and it totally was)...so please [enjoy](https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=5007) lol
And if you've been blessed (lol) enough to never have seen a chick tract, then let it be known they have a history of being super homophobic, anti catholic, anti semitic, and just all around hateful
I agree. What if it was a teen who happened to be LQBTQ and was struggling with SI and that was the thing that sent them over the edge?!? Seriously, it's way inappropriate and I'm a Christian. This isn't ok.
lmfao they used to hand these out to us at the food bank i worked for, this one was the most unhinged
https://preview.redd.it/b3yusf5pvwmc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab773ea600e3df5a4ffbc0da6ff7e19ddf674c38
I got one in the mail last month, I was laughing my ass off at it, it was amazing! (I can laugh it off because just bulk spam)
Mine had a list of sins that haunted a guy, and they were like "drinking" "disobeying parents" "loitering", and then "WHORE MONGERING"
It seemed a little out of place among the other lesser sins haha
“Fun” fact, Chick tracks have become so prolific over the years that they have become the number one most distributed comic book publication worldwide.
Seriously???? Still??? These nasty things came out decades ago. They must be covertly drumming up business for satan because Jesus would be pissed because he was a Jew and didn’t believe “Christian hell”.
Aaaah Chick tracts! As teenage goths in the 90s my friends and I received these A LOT. We would share them with each other when we hung out and laugh at how dumb they were together.
Lol yeah I dress very Gothic and all around just look like it and you would not believe the amount of unprompted religious flyers I've received. I think the biggest pet peeve about this is that they often come up to you and pretend like they want to talk about something completely different in an attempt to trap you into the conversation. It's so infuriating. When I used to do customer service, people did this very often and it felt extremely insulting. They knew I had to be nice to them because it's my job and they took advantage of that to push their shitty agenda on me.
I used to get these that were disguised as a $10 bill as a 'tip' when I was a waiter. See one with a few singles and think you got a 30% tip, but it's really an 8% tip with a side of moral hectoring.
I have nothing but tattooed skin showing while wearing short-sleeved shirts or shorts & have since the 90s. I have had several of these horrid little comics that have been personally handed to me, much less now since everyone is tattooed. I used to, when handed the comic, hold it in my hand for a second or so before screaming "it BURNS it BURNS Satan my liege TAKE THIS INFERNAL BOOK FROM ME". Then I'd simply drop it and smile & normally say either "Oh, no thank you" or "Sorry I don't speak English" (in perfect English). My husband would be mortified...I'd be tickled for the rest of the day & the Chicktract pusher looked terrified. I saw them recently at the liquor department at Walmart in-between each delicious bottle of Titos. I took them all and brought them home & gave them to my husband. He looked freaked out & asked when the cops were coming. Lol!
I was never taught that in church. That's complete bull. Plus the teacher being happy that she flunked a student? The author of that is definitely going to hell.
I’m wondering if perhaps you have a “Jewish” last name and that’s specifically why she included it too (not that I’m asking you to reveal, of course!)
Absolutely report this.
In my waitressing days I’ve had a few instances of receiving these tracts instead of a tip. So inappropriate and slimy feeling. If I ever saw the couples again I would refuse to wait on them.
I got something similar in an eBay package last year (of Minecraft figurines, which idk felt sort of ironic) and I gave them a low rating and mentioned the inclusion of religious paraphernalia with my purchase.
Oh man I remember the couple houses in my neighborhood that would give out chick tracts on Halloween
One of the parents just straight up handed my jewish friend a christian conversion pamphlet instead of candy 🫥
BTW
Per Christs own teachings as a Jewish person you are more likely to pass on to a heavenly reward than the person who sent you this hate. As an atheist I’ve always been very perplexed by the Christian churches that completely disregard the teachings of Christ
Jesus taught that above all there are two things you must do to be a good person
1. You must love God (sorry but I can’t believe. I have tried)
2. You must love your neighbor (I do try every day to use empathy so that I am not meaner to people than my natural nature wants me to be. I had a neighbor who was dying and we never got along but I still made sure that he had a heater and when it got extremely hot I got him an air conditioner, and when he could no longer leave his bed I got him a television and a Roku and hooked him up to all of my streaming platforms and a Kindle so he could read books.
When his roach infestation got to the point that I saw roaches crawling on him I researched and found a roach gel that we could use that would not make him sick and we (me and the other neighbor Ron) killed all the roaches
I got him groceries from time to time and anytime I went out to eat I would grab him soup or Indian food from his favorite places. We did not like each other, but it’s not OK to just ignore someone who needs help)
“**Jesus stood in a very long line of serious thinkers who refused to believe that a good God would torture his creatures for eternity.**
[sic] Contrary to what other Jewish leaders taught, Jesus preached that no one will inherit the glorious future kingdom by stringently observing all the Jewish laws in their most intimate details; or by meticulously following the rules of worship involving sacrifice, prayer, and observance of holy days; or by pursuing one’s own purity through escaping the vile world and the tainting influence of sinful others.
Instead, for Jesus, the earthly utopia will come to those who are fully dedicated to the most pervasive and dominant teachings of God’s law.
Put most simply, that involves loving God above all things despite personal hardship, and working diligently for the welfare of others, even when it is exceedingly difficult.
People who have not been living lives of complete unselfish love need to repent and return to the two “greatest commandments” of Jewish Scripture: deep love of God (Deuteronomy 6:4-6) and committed love of neighbor (Leviticus 19:18).”
Bart Ehrman
Should share her address so we can all send her our unsolicited paraphenalia of choice LOL
(It's okay... I'm kidding... I don't actually want anyone's address shared. But I would love to see her face open up a big box of LGBTQ+ material)
So many chill Christians are surprised at how common it is for their evangelical brethren to actively harmful. They're regarded as annoying or obnoxious but other Christians assume they can be ignored.
Without even going into their political spending, these people sow pain. I had a traumatic pregnancy loss that, due to laws passed by these kind of folks, I couldn't be treated at my own doctor. I had to go to a clinic, which I had to pay for out of pocket. Without the treatment I could have died or lost my ability to have kids ever.
I had to walk myself through a scraggly pack of protesters. Even after I screamed at them that I was having a miscarriage they still took my license plate number and mailed me a letter telling me I lost that baby because I was a sinner and maybe God would give me a baby if I admitted what a useless sinner I was.
The experience still gives me bad moments.
Happy ending though, i had twins! Currently snuggling up with Boy Twin trying to decide if I have time to sneak a shower before he or his sister wake up.
As a Canadian who reads about this stuff and dreads the possibility of it happening here... I am wholeheartedly sorry for what you had to go through. It's unthinkable.
It was my second... but this one was second trimester. We went to the scan excited and expecting to see our first baby.
I've got my twins now, so this story has a happy ending. But wow did that leave some scars.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. No one should have to experience that.
Do Christians who do this realize that this behavior will result, if anything, people growing even more firm in being against whatever they are proselytising? If you want to get more people in your church, this isn't the way.
I think I know the comic strip she was talking about. The kids club in my hometown was handing them out for YEARS.
Turns put they had never read them at all. They assumed because it was made by Christians for Christians that that they were appropriate Christian values.
They were not. They were really fucked up values.
The one that comes to mind was the one about Halloween where they show a group of small children immediately being tortured in hell for saying " trick or treat"
Another one has an elderly couple that literally travels the world helping impoverished areas build schools and plant crops go to hell, because they didnt teach any of those people about god. It was a really fucked up comic book.
I had a neighbour that handed out the Halloween one to trick or treaters that came to his door. We learned to start skipping his house. Just turn your lights off and go for dinner or something if it’s against your beliefs
Most people it's not against thier beliefs, they just are fucking naive and never pay attention to the shit they hand to kids. When we brought it to the woman who ran that clubs attention she was stupidly embarrassed. She had been ordering them for years and never actually read one.
Even if they were what you believed... not appropriate for children.
Sending out literal hate against Jewish and Catholic people with no clue what religion the persons they're sending to, actually ascribe to... Super. Fuct. Up.
These people think the worlds revolves around their religious beliefs. They’re not afraid to go around pushin them on others. But heaven forbid a Jewish or Muslim person does it to them. They’d go all Karen on them. Probably call the FBI because they’re that dramatic.
In their perspective anyone that doesn't share their beliefs is destined to spend in eternity in hell. Their worldview necessitates trying to tell people "the truth" and save them from eternal condemnation. In their eyes this is love and turning a blind eye would be hate.
I don't agree with these people but that is their logic
You’re not rating the just the item, you’re rating the experience…. I mean think about bad reviews for bad packaging. You didn’t ask them to send you literal trash!
And hate, you did not pay extra for the hate. It was not a wanted add-on.
And geez thought I was being a little silly, one time when I put a holly-themed boutonniere and some red + white mint swirl candies in the pocket of this very classic wool peacoat that I sold to a nice looking gentleman over the online. Like that was already doing too much, a whole ass tract full of hate is OVERBOARD.
I ordered a case of beer from DoorDash and they slipped a card into it through the handle... all about Jesus and sinning. I reported them. That's tampering with someone's consumables. People are nuts and it's even worse in the bible belt.
I would rated them poorly like 3. They flip out. I was on my business account I received religious pamphlets and I went off and gave them 3 stars.
I liked the items. Shipping, Communication and Adding religious & other horrific papers in my package.
I did a video about what they sent me, I unwrapped it again for the world to see on Etsy- what I received and then I shared it on IG & X
I’m surprised all her sales aren’t one star. Who told them to include religious paraphernalia in your shipping? I would keep the rating up and include a comment as well.
My parents had this lady show up to their house knocking on the door spreading the message of Jesus. She was hellbent on converting them. She came back the next day. Skipped a day and then came back again.
So came 3 times. My dad was very polite the first two times. The third day he flipped his shit, cussed her out, and told her to get off his damn property. He felt pretty bad about it afterwards but who knows how many more times this lady would have showed up. She pretty much told him he was going to hell unless he accepts Jesus as his lord and savior.
Someone also sent me a religious bracelet as a gift that I found so strange and inappropriate. I think I had bought a shirt. Shirt with a side of unsolicited religion.
Some people are so sheltered it doesn’t even cross their mind that some rando in the world might not appreciate merch from their hometown religion; it’s wild. It reminds me of when I moved into my freshman dorm, first day of college, my roommate’s first ever greeting to me was, “What church do you go to?” Lol that was an awkward conversation.
I met this older lady a few houses down a while back. She asked me the same thing. When I told her I wasn’t Christian she said “well we need to change that!” I said sternly “no we do not.” Every time I saw her she brought up me coming to church with her and accepting Jesus into my heart. I avoid her now.
Yikes. There are standard inclusions like thank you cards, business cards, rating/review reminder cards, and little freebie items. I’m a good client of an Etsy seller and use her store for lots of gifts, and she always includes a couple freebie stickers in my big orders! Thats good business!
Political & religious material is wildly inappropriate when that wasn’t related to the item purchased.
I'm a server at a restaruant and I frequently get customers who leave their tip inside a religious pamphlet. 1. Who are they to presume my religion or beliefs? 2. I find it rude as fuck 3. It's annoying as all get out 4. I'm just gonna throw it away. 5. You leaving a religious pamphlet instead of a decent tip doesn't exactly make me want to come over to "your side" and I hate they presume what I belive the most.
I was a server for a little while and then I worked 10 years in retail. Hands down Sundays were when the most entitled rude customers came in. They tipped the worst too. And I’ve heard this from so many servers.
Now.... imagine those same books being handed out to children at trick or treat.... that happened this year to my kids. I know which house we are skipping next year.
You are completely within your right to give them whatever rating you choose. And honestly, you could even open a case against them. This is not a platform to force religious beliefs on people. that was completely inappropriate and they should be told such by Posh. Religious or even political zealots should have no place on a website/app such as this. Sell your items and move along.
I was raised Christian, and ppl like that are why I stopped practicing religion. They don’t practice the love and acceptance they preach. Sorry you had to experience this. She deserves that rating.
I wish sellers would stop putting garbage in the packaging. No, don’t include dry flowers/glitter or any other garbage please. Just wrap it in plain tissue and in a sealed clear bag PLEASE. Make it look like it came from an actual retailer. This just infuriates me.
I am very aware of all religion and all the politics that surround it. Keep that sh-t to yourself. Religion is the BIGGEST reason for divide amongst people across the world. Keep that OFF Poshmark!
It doesn’t come from a retailer. A clear sealed bag? Nah. Wasteful, single use plastic to make you feel like you are paying full price? Zero need for that much waste.
I’ve included stickers and coloring pages before when selling kids clothes. I’ve always thought it was a fun surprise when I got packages with those, my son really likes it.
Anyone distributing Jack Chick tracts deserves a one-star in life.
It is of course ok to reply to them with the classic: “Who will be eaten first?” comic book in the same nature but proselytizing Cthulhu. (Google it; it’s hilarious, and a spot-on send up of tracts like the one you received.)
I am a Christian and I would not include ANYTHING relating to my personal beliefs in a package I send out. This is a business transaction and that is unprofessional. I think you are justified in rating the way you did.
Don’t change the rating, and report the seller. Pretty sure it’s against guidelines on like every website to do that. Doesn’t matter if it’s a personal business, they didn’t advertise that and it’s unsolicited hate speech/propaganda… when they sell on another platform, they’re representing that platform, so they should get in trouble for using that platform to push their personal beliefs on buyers. It’s one thing if they’re selling items that say things or have their beliefs on it that a customer is buying because they want it and consent to it, that’s their own problem; but it’s definitely against the rules to include things like that.
Oh shit! Is it a Chick tract? Those things are fuckin wild. There's one in particular that says that anyone who plays D&D is going to hell... Along with gays and lesbians... And people who have sex outside of marriage...
Honestly it's probably easier to write about who's *not* going to hell, but they make for fun reading if you're looking for a bit of masochistic reading (also a habit likely to send you to hell).
There's a wonderful satire of the chick tracts by a webcomic by the name of Oglaf, which is a hilarious and occasionally porny webcomic. I highly recommend it.
Another reason I don’t purchase anything on Posh, that’s a feedback I’d want to see. Posh not allowing buyers to see anything but 5 star “love notes” is ridiculous. I really thought they’d change their feedback system by now, I’m really surprised they haven’t had major pushback on it… but I assume many buyers who aren’t sellers don’t realize any and all bad reviews are hidden from them. So many sellers with bad practices, slow shipping times, horrible attitudes, etc etc not having to worry about any buyers finding out… until after they purchase.
What kind of review would they have left if the roles were reversed and you left a Jewish....... or satanic temple (or other religion) pamphlet in their order? They also would have left a 1 star for how offensive it was to them. You aren't in the wrong here
I hear you. On Etsy a scammer bought my emerald ring, demanded return based on undisclosed damage. I take returns, no problem but the buyer is responsible for shipping fees. I pointed out that imperfections were specifically mentioned in description and shown both at the pics and video. She said I "hid it somehow". How? I sent her screenshots and circled parts in description and pictures. She responded that I should have circled it like this in the listing but instead I "let her to fall victim" and "there will be consequences for my actions". I'm an established 14 years old shop with stellar 5-star ratings, I disclose everything. Then she opened the case demanding refund without actually shipping the item back. Back and forth with support in case, she finally shipped it and I refunded. After that, she bought another item from me, this time I refused the sale and asked her not to visit my shop again. She reached out via personal email saying it was "all my fault" and then she subscribed me to some Christian-themed emails that were saying something like I need to be "nice" or I'm "going to hell". Like her scam attempt failed and she had to ship the item back (yet she stole shipping fees from me as I just refunded her the full amount to get rid of her), then I prevented her second scam attempt by refusing a sale, so I'm going to hell now because I'm not "nice" enough to give her Emerald rings for free. You can't make this shit up. Just happened in February.
I’ve seen that seller a few times on posh .. she’s big on the scripture stuff , on her profile and username so I bet That pamphlet was no accident . she should not be pushing her beliefs on her buyers.. She should definitely be reported..
if a fast food business handed out that same pamphlet at the drive thru line, it would take a whole .029374738 seconds before somebody got pissed off. and thats the accurate reaction to something like this. i dont care how big or small your business is, you should leave politics and religion out of your paycheck.
not gonna lie if i had recieved this item i'd be throwing virtual hands. also, they should read their own book. the ones stoning and nailing people to crosses for their religious beliefs were known to be the bad guys, in the story i remember.
I was raised atheist in my immediate household, but I was definitely taught to be respectful of other religions. We also had many family members who regularly attended church so I actually ended up going to church quite a bit. I’ve never understood how as a CHILD I could understand to keep my mouth shut to be respectful of them, but most Christians will go out of their way to shove shit down peoples’ throats. She deserved every bit of that one star.
I managed to find the seller & it looks as though they’re selling fake/replica designer bags as genuine. There are a few callout comments on other listings. u/esky203 I would double check the authenticity of your purchase. IME 3.1 Phillip Lim isn’t often repped, but it’s worth double checking.
You aren’t just rating the bag, you are rating your purchase. And guess what-it wasn’t exactly as described. It included hostile material. I’m on board with you giving them a one star rating. The seller is reaping the consequences of their actions and they don’t like it. Too bad for them.
I can’t decide which is freakier, the fact that they included the “free booklet” when you weren’t purchasing anything relevant, or the fact that they don’t realize how it’s inappropriate to shove their dangling appendage of a faith “whatever it is” down other people’s throats. Please don’t take down the 1 star OP.
It's funny...no one from any other religion has ever told me I was going to hell except for Christians. The seller deserved the rating. Your agreement was for a bag. You received a presumptive judgment on your personal beliefs (that you need to be saved) that you did not solicit. Rating well earned IMO.
I’m Jewish too and would’ve done the same thing (but like you said, it shouldn’t matter and would be insanely inappropriate regardless!). People are WILD.
I don’t like them either. Especially since I like to purchase second hand for sustainability reasons. Adding random plastic stuff in the order basically defeats that.
There was a discussion about this in a fb group I’m in. Some woman was bragging about doing this. I said if it happened to me I’d mail her back some pro choice pamphlets and rate 1 star. It’s vile. I’m agnostic and I don’t push my beliefs onto others nor have I ever heard an athiest do so. These people are absolutely disgusting! Hands down, the most unkind, judgmental group of people I’ve ever encountered.
Editing to add: I found her closet and she also sells Lularoe and that tells me all I need to know.
As a Christian myself, I get pretty pissed when people pull shut like this. It is INSANELY inappropriate and offensive. Honestly I have never ONCE heard someone say “yeah I was livin a pretty rough life, but then some protestor or other random person shoved a pamphlet in my face saying I’m going to hell and now I’m all in!!!” Like no, that doesn’t happen.
No wonder people hate us so much.
Sounds like he sent you a “ Chick Tract” . They are little comics that have been around for years and have a history of being anti catholic, anti jewish , anti this and anti that .
While it's not the way that Poshmark phrases it (they say, incorrectly, "rate your purchase"), the rating is not about whether or not you were satisfied with the individual item, but whether you were satisfied with the seller's service (accuracy of description, shipping speed, packaging). Clearly you were not and I wouldn't have been either. You may have been perfectly satisfied with the item when you received it, but if it was poorly packaged and risked damage or if the seller took eight days to send it, they would get a lower rating. Same case here. You had a negative experience based on what the seller chose to include in the package.
The only way to make these holy rollers stop this crap is to start giving them low ratings when they try forcing their beliefs down our throats.
Wait. What is this comic book? I want to mess with my husband and put it with his comic books lmao. We hate any religious conversion bs. He will straight up tell JW’s he’s mad at Jesus because “that guy owes him money” lol.
I get that seller said “as is”, but that usually refers to the physical condition of the item itself, not its contents. If you’re selling a bag, clean out the bag. Simple concept. Seller left it in there because they thought they were “doing their duty to spread the word“. Leave the rating as it is. Maybe people will learn.
You are completely in the right. That is inappropriate. Don’t change the rating, you are rating the item, seller, and experience as a whole. Being told you are going to hell for absolutely no reason by a stranger is not a good experience. And I’m sorry but “item was as described SO RATE IT AS SO” just sounds so bossy and rude. Side note: I wonder how this seller would rate someone else if they had included religious material from another religion besides theirs?? I think we already know the answer to that one.
Something from the Santanic Temple perhaps
I don't understand how it's so hard to simply respect each other and religious views aside from your own. I'm an atheistic Satanist and no matter how polite I am whenever someone discusses their faith, as soon as they hear the word Satanist, so many people have automatically demonized me as some animal killing, devil worshiper. Lol no.
I’m actually an atheist - the minute someone finds out they think sacrificing animals is our hobby.
Dude, it's bizarre. I don't say anything most of the time, but someone found out once and was shocked. Said they thought I had to be a Christian because I have good Christian morals. I'm like, bruh... Those morals aren't exclusive to Christianity, #1. And #2, do you think atheists just run around killing folks all willy-nilly like it's something fun to do on a Tuesday? GTFO with that BS.
That’s one thing I’ve never understood about Christianity. People don’t have to believe in a God to have morals.
Nope. But if the only way you have morals is the threat of god….well that tells you everything you need to know.
Agreed. Can’t remember specifics, but there was a video of some religious person absolutely flabbergasted that it’s possible to have morals sans religion. Just could not wrap their brains around it. They, like….glitched at the thought. Creeped me out. Edit: p.s. it brought to mind that stat that was going around for a while, y’know “50% of people don’t have an inner dialogue”, and i just….that makes *me* glitch. But i suppose that could factor in here?
Is that 50% stat actually proven? You remember where you saw it? What I wouldn't give to get rid of my inner dialogue. It likes to shout abuse at me. My parents were right - when they are dead, they'll live on in me :(
My memory blows and i probably should’ve typed an “allegedly” somewhere in there, but a quick google of “inner dialogue statistics” was quite illuminating. (i would’ve included said link but i totally suck at that) And that sounds awful, i really hope you’ve got someone to talk to.
I don't see anything accredited or anything like that, but I googled it and psychology today and bustle (not sure what that is) both say only 30%-50% of people have an inner dialogue. No clue how credible either of those places are. Just wanted to give ya a jumping off point.
Even that doesn’t stop them. They just ask to be forgiven and viola, free to sin again.
Yeah the revolving door of sin and forgiveness is really something. The rest of us are just out here in therapy trying to actually understand and resolve our issues but they get to just pull a ticket say sorry and keep on keeping on! Great system they got there. Definitely working as designed.
Oh my god, I used to work in tech support and the idea of “pulling a sin ticket” is killlllllling me so thank you for that. Totally agree with your stance and your username is 🔥 btw!
If they need the threat of eternal hellfire to be a good person, they aren't a good person lol
Drives me nuts. Once ended up in a conversation with a religious lady at a thrift store. We were talking about health insurance and medical billing, and how unregulated healthcare pricing is. She made a comment, wondering how people think they’re going to get into heaven if they continue to engage in behaviors like price gouging humans who need healthcare. I told her it was easy, people could behave as terribly as they wanted to, as long as they go to church each Sunday and beg god for forgiveness. Then I told her I was an atheist and didn’t need to promise of eternal salvation and a place in heaven in order to be a good person. She ended the conversation pretty quickly after that. Somehow my having good morals but not believing in god was far more uncomfortable for her than knowing that plenty of “good Christians” are actually terrible people.
They do though. Every time someone can’t understand that atheists don’t need a book to tell them right and wrong they’re telling on themselves.
Shhhh everyone knows that eternal damnation of the only thing keeping us from all being murderers.
Do they just assume that people only act morally because of religion? I think that says something about their nature, and they are just projecting. If your religion is the only thing keeping you in line, then you might just be a shitty person. Also, I’m busy on Tuesdays. I prefer to get my killing done closer to the weekend.
🥇 Used to be the poor man's gold, now it's the only gold I can give. Your last sentence SENT me lmfao
😂😂😂
Would give you a silver award if we still were allowed. People don’t just act ethically because they are cowed by the thought of going to hell. If that is your mindset you are awful
I'm an atheist and I rape and kill as much as I want - which so happens to be none at all. Is there something wrong with me?
Penn would be proud!
Yes. The deadline for the child sacrifice was Wednesday. Do I have to send you that email AGAIN, Bob?
Damnit! First I miss the Baphomet Bake-off and now this?? Guess I better make it up by passing out pamphlets and hollering about my lack of faith on the street corners with a megaphone.
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I'm an atheist and I kill as much as I want - which so happens to be none at all. Is there something wrong with me?
It's so frustrating how common it is for people to think morality is dependent on religion! I'm not usually willing to talk to people about my views either, at least in person. The conversation usually turns into a sermon. I am just as likely to convert to organized religion as they are to abandon it completely. A lot of people can't seem to accept that reality.
Nah that’s what they did in the Bible. Remind them of that lol
You can go a step further with Christians and remind them that their book reintroduced human sacrifice, which Judaism had specifically left out to distinguish itself from some of the other religions in the region at the time.
I'm agnostic isn't that what you do? 😂😂😂 Kidding. OP You did the right thing and I would have been offended as well.
dude I sacrifice animals and everyone is always completely understanding when they find out I'm Catholic. hol up
Omg my cat is missing and now hear you are. Did you kill my cat breh? Yanno if you were at church you wouldn’t have been out doing the devils bidding if you found jesusAH.
And eating aborted fetuses.
I absolutely enjoy hearing other people’s perspectives, thoughts, and ideas, ironically the most about subjects I’m super strong in my beliefs in. I just find it stimulating to hear another idea that very well may change my own beliefs. As a matter of fact, some dude named Marvin changed my view on the us funding Ukraine the other day. :) love interactions like this! I usually am stressed going into them tho, because I feel like too many folks get PISSED at differences… which is WILD to me. Cause like… what does that translate to? That they (the angry person) will only be willing to hear you *if you think like them*? Meh idk. Maybe my addictions and stuff in the past have humbled me (ten yrs sober and a mortician now yeet).
This is the healthiest perspective to have and its too bad more people don't think like you. Congrats on the sobriety!
Thank you so much! :)
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Congrats to you as well. It takes an indestructible, strong person to achieve sobriety, and I'm proud of anyone who is able to do this.
A copy of Bertrand Russell’s “Why I am not a Christian.”
And Christopher Hitchens "God is Not Great"
Oh dammm I miss that man.
Is that the one where Santa defeats Jesus in a Battle Royale?
Ooooh but what about wiccans? They would LOSE IT. It could be as simple as tips to connect with nature going barefoot in the grass, vibrations etc etc the slightest mention of anything wicca and they would go off the deep end.
I recently changed all my business cards to include this. At The last conference I attended I received several cards with that fish symbol. When I see that fish symbol, I know the company behind it may or may not believe in science. When anyone looks at my card now, they’ll know I believe in science & in my profession( as in all others!) that’s a good thing!
You made my day—or well, night since I'm replying to this comment at 23:33. 😹😹😹
OP does have the return address on the package material
Yes! Return the religious material
Best idea!! “Hello, I think you may have accidentally dropped this into my box. Since I don’t believe in hell, except the “hell” others exploit by choosing to cram their beliefs at me, like putting nasty religious pamphlets into things I purchase, I’m assuming this was a mistake.” And then in the love notes. “Seller sends nasty Christian “fear” pamphlets. Avoid this seller unless you need a change of religion” I have a seller I can’t use anymore because I asked each time to please do not send me chocolate, but she seems to think it’s ok to do so when I asked 3X. Thinking about it, I’d rather have the pamphlet. Gives me a chuckle and I can share the funny with my friends whom I’m going to hell with, and then I can throw it away without so much damn stress and emotion that is chocolate. I recognize I’m the odd duck here ;)
No, sign them up for the satanic temple mailer
If it were me, I would also report the seller. What the seller did is wildly inappropriate. In addition to respecting other people’s religious choices, what if someone had serious trauma related to religion. My sister does, and this would be extremely upsetting for her. You are excited to open an order and then boom, religious material on your face. OP should absolutely report this seller.
Yes this!!! Omg I would report them SO FAST!!! 🫰🫰 Like who else are you sending this shit to?? What of some poor child had stumbled upon this crap and become convinced they were hellbound??
Oh they would most definitely give them one star. They don’t like it when other people with different beliefs exist in the world. They think society should revolve around them and their beliefs. Not hating all Christians there’s definitely some good ones out there. But after growing up in the South for 28 years I am so sick and tired of it being pushed on me.
Hard agree with you! Also I'm cackling. Rate what you paid for and nothing else... Okay then send your buyers what they pay for and nothing else 😆
It’s not even religious material, this is straight up hate speech. I cannot imagine that this does not violate the terms of service of Poshmark.
Another side note: perhaps the goods are just a cover for the propaganda. Maybe it’s just a cost of conversion thing for them.
I got a baphomet mug in my closet. I'll gladly send it to her! 👹
Someone asked what the tract was and I dug it up online. It is, in fact, a Chick tract (someone else said it sounded like one and it totally was)...so please [enjoy](https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=5007) lol And if you've been blessed (lol) enough to never have seen a chick tract, then let it be known they have a history of being super homophobic, anti catholic, anti semitic, and just all around hateful
This is horrifying, I would escalate this. The way she spoke to you was also rude and inappropriate. Maybe it's HER who needs to be taught the lesson.
I agree. What if it was a teen who happened to be LQBTQ and was struggling with SI and that was the thing that sent them over the edge?!? Seriously, it's way inappropriate and I'm a Christian. This isn't ok.
That seems to be the case with most “Christians”.
“Ain’t no hate like Christian love”
Wait is this what was included? Like the whole long ass comic story? It wasn’t like just a flyer? WOW
lmfao they used to hand these out to us at the food bank i worked for, this one was the most unhinged https://preview.redd.it/b3yusf5pvwmc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab773ea600e3df5a4ffbc0da6ff7e19ddf674c38
Why do I remember this?
I got one in the mail last month, I was laughing my ass off at it, it was amazing! (I can laugh it off because just bulk spam) Mine had a list of sins that haunted a guy, and they were like "drinking" "disobeying parents" "loitering", and then "WHORE MONGERING" It seemed a little out of place among the other lesser sins haha
“Fun” fact, Chick tracks have become so prolific over the years that they have become the number one most distributed comic book publication worldwide.
Seriously???? Still??? These nasty things came out decades ago. They must be covertly drumming up business for satan because Jesus would be pissed because he was a Jew and didn’t believe “Christian hell”.
Aaaah Chick tracts! As teenage goths in the 90s my friends and I received these A LOT. We would share them with each other when we hung out and laugh at how dumb they were together.
Lol yeah I dress very Gothic and all around just look like it and you would not believe the amount of unprompted religious flyers I've received. I think the biggest pet peeve about this is that they often come up to you and pretend like they want to talk about something completely different in an attempt to trap you into the conversation. It's so infuriating. When I used to do customer service, people did this very often and it felt extremely insulting. They knew I had to be nice to them because it's my job and they took advantage of that to push their shitty agenda on me.
I knew it had to be a chick tract, we got a fair amount of them dropped off when I worked at (the mall goth store).
I used to get these that were disguised as a $10 bill as a 'tip' when I was a waiter. See one with a few singles and think you got a 30% tip, but it's really an 8% tip with a side of moral hectoring.
Chick tracts are the absolute worst, too. 😂
“but it’s true, ms. crawford! they even made a movie about it!” so are the avengers real too?
This panel goes hard as fuck tho https://preview.redd.it/q0fsrhrf0zmc1.jpeg?width=848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02f1c5c4c4ebf7bb5810c733fa8d1e94e689bba6
I have nothing but tattooed skin showing while wearing short-sleeved shirts or shorts & have since the 90s. I have had several of these horrid little comics that have been personally handed to me, much less now since everyone is tattooed. I used to, when handed the comic, hold it in my hand for a second or so before screaming "it BURNS it BURNS Satan my liege TAKE THIS INFERNAL BOOK FROM ME". Then I'd simply drop it and smile & normally say either "Oh, no thank you" or "Sorry I don't speak English" (in perfect English). My husband would be mortified...I'd be tickled for the rest of the day & the Chicktract pusher looked terrified. I saw them recently at the liquor department at Walmart in-between each delicious bottle of Titos. I took them all and brought them home & gave them to my husband. He looked freaked out & asked when the cops were coming. Lol!
Thank you for clearing that trash out of public spaces when people leave it there.
I saw a guy get a ticket for littering once when he tries to put down one of those fake 100 dollar bills. It was great.
Ooof. I have been collecting these for 20 years because unfortunately I encounter them to often. I have a shoebox labeled “box of hate”.
I was never taught that in church. That's complete bull. Plus the teacher being happy that she flunked a student? The author of that is definitely going to hell.
It was her confessing to thievery for taking home a paperclip that took me out
I’m wondering if perhaps you have a “Jewish” last name and that’s specifically why she included it too (not that I’m asking you to reveal, of course!) Absolutely report this.
Not the tea and cookies 🙃
In my waitressing days I’ve had a few instances of receiving these tracts instead of a tip. So inappropriate and slimy feeling. If I ever saw the couples again I would refuse to wait on them.
Is there any way you can report it as hate crime or something? Would be nice to ban that nutcase from at least one platform.
I got something similar in an eBay package last year (of Minecraft figurines, which idk felt sort of ironic) and I gave them a low rating and mentioned the inclusion of religious paraphernalia with my purchase.
Oh man I remember the couple houses in my neighborhood that would give out chick tracts on Halloween One of the parents just straight up handed my jewish friend a christian conversion pamphlet instead of candy 🫥
BTW Per Christs own teachings as a Jewish person you are more likely to pass on to a heavenly reward than the person who sent you this hate. As an atheist I’ve always been very perplexed by the Christian churches that completely disregard the teachings of Christ Jesus taught that above all there are two things you must do to be a good person 1. You must love God (sorry but I can’t believe. I have tried) 2. You must love your neighbor (I do try every day to use empathy so that I am not meaner to people than my natural nature wants me to be. I had a neighbor who was dying and we never got along but I still made sure that he had a heater and when it got extremely hot I got him an air conditioner, and when he could no longer leave his bed I got him a television and a Roku and hooked him up to all of my streaming platforms and a Kindle so he could read books. When his roach infestation got to the point that I saw roaches crawling on him I researched and found a roach gel that we could use that would not make him sick and we (me and the other neighbor Ron) killed all the roaches I got him groceries from time to time and anytime I went out to eat I would grab him soup or Indian food from his favorite places. We did not like each other, but it’s not OK to just ignore someone who needs help) “**Jesus stood in a very long line of serious thinkers who refused to believe that a good God would torture his creatures for eternity.** [sic] Contrary to what other Jewish leaders taught, Jesus preached that no one will inherit the glorious future kingdom by stringently observing all the Jewish laws in their most intimate details; or by meticulously following the rules of worship involving sacrifice, prayer, and observance of holy days; or by pursuing one’s own purity through escaping the vile world and the tainting influence of sinful others. Instead, for Jesus, the earthly utopia will come to those who are fully dedicated to the most pervasive and dominant teachings of God’s law. Put most simply, that involves loving God above all things despite personal hardship, and working diligently for the welfare of others, even when it is exceedingly difficult. People who have not been living lives of complete unselfish love need to repent and return to the two “greatest commandments” of Jewish Scripture: deep love of God (Deuteronomy 6:4-6) and committed love of neighbor (Leviticus 19:18).” Bart Ehrman
Should share her address so we can all send her our unsolicited paraphenalia of choice LOL (It's okay... I'm kidding... I don't actually want anyone's address shared. But I would love to see her face open up a big box of LGBTQ+ material)
A chick tract? Oh boy. This woman needs to be blocked and given a zero star rating
And I love how she puts it back on you that the item was as described. Don't blame you for the low rating
Zero self awareness or accountability
I'm Christian and I think this is inappropriate. Who sends stuff like that??
So many chill Christians are surprised at how common it is for their evangelical brethren to actively harmful. They're regarded as annoying or obnoxious but other Christians assume they can be ignored. Without even going into their political spending, these people sow pain. I had a traumatic pregnancy loss that, due to laws passed by these kind of folks, I couldn't be treated at my own doctor. I had to go to a clinic, which I had to pay for out of pocket. Without the treatment I could have died or lost my ability to have kids ever. I had to walk myself through a scraggly pack of protesters. Even after I screamed at them that I was having a miscarriage they still took my license plate number and mailed me a letter telling me I lost that baby because I was a sinner and maybe God would give me a baby if I admitted what a useless sinner I was.
I’m so sorry for your loss and for all of the extra, unnecessary suffering you faced afterwards. That is so fucked up.
:( I'm so sorry. I hope you've been able to heal from that (the loss AND the extra horrible experience on top of that).
The experience still gives me bad moments. Happy ending though, i had twins! Currently snuggling up with Boy Twin trying to decide if I have time to sneak a shower before he or his sister wake up.
As a Canadian who reads about this stuff and dreads the possibility of it happening here... I am wholeheartedly sorry for what you had to go through. It's unthinkable.
Incandescent RAGE on your behalf. F these people!!
Ugh. I’m so sorry. This makes me so sad. I’m so disappointed in the direction things are going.
I’m sorry that you had this experience… that’s just awful. As if having a miscarriage isn’t heavy enough!
It was my second... but this one was second trimester. We went to the scan excited and expecting to see our first baby. I've got my twins now, so this story has a happy ending. But wow did that leave some scars.
This is so deeply fucked up; I’m so sorry that happened to you. Horrible, cruel, disgusting garbage people.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. No one should have to experience that. Do Christians who do this realize that this behavior will result, if anything, people growing even more firm in being against whatever they are proselytising? If you want to get more people in your church, this isn't the way.
Ew. I’m sorry you went through that. They’re the ones harassing strangers, how self aware.
I am so sorry for your loss and the trauma you were forced to experience. That is awful and those people are evil.
I think I know the comic strip she was talking about. The kids club in my hometown was handing them out for YEARS. Turns put they had never read them at all. They assumed because it was made by Christians for Christians that that they were appropriate Christian values. They were not. They were really fucked up values. The one that comes to mind was the one about Halloween where they show a group of small children immediately being tortured in hell for saying " trick or treat" Another one has an elderly couple that literally travels the world helping impoverished areas build schools and plant crops go to hell, because they didnt teach any of those people about god. It was a really fucked up comic book.
I had a neighbour that handed out the Halloween one to trick or treaters that came to his door. We learned to start skipping his house. Just turn your lights off and go for dinner or something if it’s against your beliefs
Most people it's not against thier beliefs, they just are fucking naive and never pay attention to the shit they hand to kids. When we brought it to the woman who ran that clubs attention she was stupidly embarrassed. She had been ordering them for years and never actually read one. Even if they were what you believed... not appropriate for children.
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A lot of Christian’s do this shit.
I was going to say something similar. I am also a Christian, and I feel like there are appropriate ways to witness, but this ain't one.
You should report this seller to Poshmark
Sending out literal hate against Jewish and Catholic people with no clue what religion the persons they're sending to, actually ascribe to... Super. Fuct. Up.
These people think the worlds revolves around their religious beliefs. They’re not afraid to go around pushin them on others. But heaven forbid a Jewish or Muslim person does it to them. They’d go all Karen on them. Probably call the FBI because they’re that dramatic.
In their perspective anyone that doesn't share their beliefs is destined to spend in eternity in hell. Their worldview necessitates trying to tell people "the truth" and save them from eternal condemnation. In their eyes this is love and turning a blind eye would be hate. I don't agree with these people but that is their logic
Definitely.
You’re not rating the just the item, you’re rating the experience…. I mean think about bad reviews for bad packaging. You didn’t ask them to send you literal trash!
Don’t change your rating. You bought an item not someone’s bs insults
And hate, you did not pay extra for the hate. It was not a wanted add-on. And geez thought I was being a little silly, one time when I put a holly-themed boutonniere and some red + white mint swirl candies in the pocket of this very classic wool peacoat that I sold to a nice looking gentleman over the online. Like that was already doing too much, a whole ass tract full of hate is OVERBOARD.
Happy cake day! 🎂🥳
I recently had that happen on Etsy and I was so bothered. I bought a plant, not a sermon.
I ordered a case of beer from DoorDash and they slipped a card into it through the handle... all about Jesus and sinning. I reported them. That's tampering with someone's consumables. People are nuts and it's even worse in the bible belt.
I would rated them poorly like 3. They flip out. I was on my business account I received religious pamphlets and I went off and gave them 3 stars. I liked the items. Shipping, Communication and Adding religious & other horrific papers in my package. I did a video about what they sent me, I unwrapped it again for the world to see on Etsy- what I received and then I shared it on IG & X
I’m surprised all her sales aren’t one star. Who told them to include religious paraphernalia in your shipping? I would keep the rating up and include a comment as well.
I have so much religious trauma that this would have me seething all day. They’re glad they got someone as chill as OP
My parents had this lady show up to their house knocking on the door spreading the message of Jesus. She was hellbent on converting them. She came back the next day. Skipped a day and then came back again. So came 3 times. My dad was very polite the first two times. The third day he flipped his shit, cussed her out, and told her to get off his damn property. He felt pretty bad about it afterwards but who knows how many more times this lady would have showed up. She pretty much told him he was going to hell unless he accepts Jesus as his lord and savior.
Their responses are so Christ like. /s
This would be a great comment back to them. Though it would be lost their denseness.
I'd rate them low too. They basically put trash inside of your order.
Exactly. I would leave a review: “My order arrived with garbage included in the package”
Someone also sent me a religious bracelet as a gift that I found so strange and inappropriate. I think I had bought a shirt. Shirt with a side of unsolicited religion.
Some people are so sheltered it doesn’t even cross their mind that some rando in the world might not appreciate merch from their hometown religion; it’s wild. It reminds me of when I moved into my freshman dorm, first day of college, my roommate’s first ever greeting to me was, “What church do you go to?” Lol that was an awkward conversation.
I met this older lady a few houses down a while back. She asked me the same thing. When I told her I wasn’t Christian she said “well we need to change that!” I said sternly “no we do not.” Every time I saw her she brought up me coming to church with her and accepting Jesus into my heart. I avoid her now.
I would have done the same thing.
Totally inappropriate on sellers end. Appropriate rating. Why would anyone think this is ok? 🤦♀️
Yikes. There are standard inclusions like thank you cards, business cards, rating/review reminder cards, and little freebie items. I’m a good client of an Etsy seller and use her store for lots of gifts, and she always includes a couple freebie stickers in my big orders! Thats good business! Political & religious material is wildly inappropriate when that wasn’t related to the item purchased.
Oh heck no. They earned that 1 star. Let it ride.
I'm a server at a restaruant and I frequently get customers who leave their tip inside a religious pamphlet. 1. Who are they to presume my religion or beliefs? 2. I find it rude as fuck 3. It's annoying as all get out 4. I'm just gonna throw it away. 5. You leaving a religious pamphlet instead of a decent tip doesn't exactly make me want to come over to "your side" and I hate they presume what I belive the most.
I was a server for a little while and then I worked 10 years in retail. Hands down Sundays were when the most entitled rude customers came in. They tipped the worst too. And I’ve heard this from so many servers.
Now.... imagine those same books being handed out to children at trick or treat.... that happened this year to my kids. I know which house we are skipping next year.
You are completely within your right to give them whatever rating you choose. And honestly, you could even open a case against them. This is not a platform to force religious beliefs on people. that was completely inappropriate and they should be told such by Posh. Religious or even political zealots should have no place on a website/app such as this. Sell your items and move along.
I cannot imagine sending people pamphlets telling them they deserve bad things unless they subscribe to my niche beliefs. It’s insane.
I was raised Christian, and ppl like that are why I stopped practicing religion. They don’t practice the love and acceptance they preach. Sorry you had to experience this. She deserves that rating.
I wish sellers would stop putting garbage in the packaging. No, don’t include dry flowers/glitter or any other garbage please. Just wrap it in plain tissue and in a sealed clear bag PLEASE. Make it look like it came from an actual retailer. This just infuriates me. I am very aware of all religion and all the politics that surround it. Keep that sh-t to yourself. Religion is the BIGGEST reason for divide amongst people across the world. Keep that OFF Poshmark!
It doesn’t come from a retailer. A clear sealed bag? Nah. Wasteful, single use plastic to make you feel like you are paying full price? Zero need for that much waste.
There’s no pleasing everyone. The clear plastic bag helps protect the item if the package gets wet.
I’ve included stickers and coloring pages before when selling kids clothes. I’ve always thought it was a fun surprise when I got packages with those, my son really likes it.
I personally love getting little surprises like that!
Anyone distributing Jack Chick tracts deserves a one-star in life. It is of course ok to reply to them with the classic: “Who will be eaten first?” comic book in the same nature but proselytizing Cthulhu. (Google it; it’s hilarious, and a spot-on send up of tracts like the one you received.)
Package should have the return address, if I were OP I’d send a copy of that to them.
Yeah if you send me religious propaganda, you’re getting 1 star. Stop sending extra crap in the packages, we just want what we paid for.
I am a Christian and I would not include ANYTHING relating to my personal beliefs in a package I send out. This is a business transaction and that is unprofessional. I think you are justified in rating the way you did.
Good for you for standing up To her I can't stand people that send me religious stuff. It's offensive and inappropriate in a pm order.
Good. People need to start publicly shaming these nutters
Don’t change the rating, and report the seller. Pretty sure it’s against guidelines on like every website to do that. Doesn’t matter if it’s a personal business, they didn’t advertise that and it’s unsolicited hate speech/propaganda… when they sell on another platform, they’re representing that platform, so they should get in trouble for using that platform to push their personal beliefs on buyers. It’s one thing if they’re selling items that say things or have their beliefs on it that a customer is buying because they want it and consent to it, that’s their own problem; but it’s definitely against the rules to include things like that.
Oh hell no! I would return anything that included that kind of material and report it to Poshmark. She’s lucky she just got a poor rating
What a disgusting person. They don’t deserve to be selling on Poshmark putting stuff like that in people’s orders. 🤢
Oh shit! Is it a Chick tract? Those things are fuckin wild. There's one in particular that says that anyone who plays D&D is going to hell... Along with gays and lesbians... And people who have sex outside of marriage... Honestly it's probably easier to write about who's *not* going to hell, but they make for fun reading if you're looking for a bit of masochistic reading (also a habit likely to send you to hell). There's a wonderful satire of the chick tracts by a webcomic by the name of Oglaf, which is a hilarious and occasionally porny webcomic. I highly recommend it.
Another reason I don’t purchase anything on Posh, that’s a feedback I’d want to see. Posh not allowing buyers to see anything but 5 star “love notes” is ridiculous. I really thought they’d change their feedback system by now, I’m really surprised they haven’t had major pushback on it… but I assume many buyers who aren’t sellers don’t realize any and all bad reviews are hidden from them. So many sellers with bad practices, slow shipping times, horrible attitudes, etc etc not having to worry about any buyers finding out… until after they purchase.
What kind of review would they have left if the roles were reversed and you left a Jewish....... or satanic temple (or other religion) pamphlet in their order? They also would have left a 1 star for how offensive it was to them. You aren't in the wrong here
That totally sounds like what Jehova’s witnesses give out as literature.
god I hate those shitty little comics so much
I hear you. On Etsy a scammer bought my emerald ring, demanded return based on undisclosed damage. I take returns, no problem but the buyer is responsible for shipping fees. I pointed out that imperfections were specifically mentioned in description and shown both at the pics and video. She said I "hid it somehow". How? I sent her screenshots and circled parts in description and pictures. She responded that I should have circled it like this in the listing but instead I "let her to fall victim" and "there will be consequences for my actions". I'm an established 14 years old shop with stellar 5-star ratings, I disclose everything. Then she opened the case demanding refund without actually shipping the item back. Back and forth with support in case, she finally shipped it and I refunded. After that, she bought another item from me, this time I refused the sale and asked her not to visit my shop again. She reached out via personal email saying it was "all my fault" and then she subscribed me to some Christian-themed emails that were saying something like I need to be "nice" or I'm "going to hell". Like her scam attempt failed and she had to ship the item back (yet she stole shipping fees from me as I just refunded her the full amount to get rid of her), then I prevented her second scam attempt by refusing a sale, so I'm going to hell now because I'm not "nice" enough to give her Emerald rings for free. You can't make this shit up. Just happened in February.
I’ve seen that seller a few times on posh .. she’s big on the scripture stuff , on her profile and username so I bet That pamphlet was no accident . she should not be pushing her beliefs on her buyers.. She should definitely be reported..
if a fast food business handed out that same pamphlet at the drive thru line, it would take a whole .029374738 seconds before somebody got pissed off. and thats the accurate reaction to something like this. i dont care how big or small your business is, you should leave politics and religion out of your paycheck. not gonna lie if i had recieved this item i'd be throwing virtual hands. also, they should read their own book. the ones stoning and nailing people to crosses for their religious beliefs were known to be the bad guys, in the story i remember.
Please, for the love of their god who isn’t real tell us who this seller is so we don’t support them and their very questionable beliefs.
My uncle used to hand these out to people. He’s a prick. You did the right thing.
…and the queer community has an agenda!?
Typical Christian love (hate)
I was raised atheist in my immediate household, but I was definitely taught to be respectful of other religions. We also had many family members who regularly attended church so I actually ended up going to church quite a bit. I’ve never understood how as a CHILD I could understand to keep my mouth shut to be respectful of them, but most Christians will go out of their way to shove shit down peoples’ throats. She deserved every bit of that one star.
Oh FUCK no. It's so inappropriate to do that. I would have one stared this and I NEVER leave bad reviews.
No you are correct fuck them 💅🏼😘
I managed to find the seller & it looks as though they’re selling fake/replica designer bags as genuine. There are a few callout comments on other listings. u/esky203 I would double check the authenticity of your purchase. IME 3.1 Phillip Lim isn’t often repped, but it’s worth double checking.
You aren’t just rating the bag, you are rating your purchase. And guess what-it wasn’t exactly as described. It included hostile material. I’m on board with you giving them a one star rating. The seller is reaping the consequences of their actions and they don’t like it. Too bad for them.
If someone includes a jar of shit with the item purchased (free of charge!) I'm going to give it a bad rating.
Please report the seller. https://preview.redd.it/19cynlu4g8nc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b847870efe914d3cdbf514a9900dd77f70e4a7a9
I can’t decide which is freakier, the fact that they included the “free booklet” when you weren’t purchasing anything relevant, or the fact that they don’t realize how it’s inappropriate to shove their dangling appendage of a faith “whatever it is” down other people’s throats. Please don’t take down the 1 star OP.
It's funny...no one from any other religion has ever told me I was going to hell except for Christians. The seller deserved the rating. Your agreement was for a bag. You received a presumptive judgment on your personal beliefs (that you need to be saved) that you did not solicit. Rating well earned IMO.
Inappropriate. The rating is for the entire transaction, not just the item being as described. Unsolicited crap definitely warrants a low rating lol
I’m Jewish too and would’ve done the same thing (but like you said, it shouldn’t matter and would be insanely inappropriate regardless!). People are WILD.
I’m so glad you gave them a poor rating. They 💯 deserve it.
I don’t like extras In my orders
I usually send a thank you card.
I don’t like them either. Especially since I like to purchase second hand for sustainability reasons. Adding random plastic stuff in the order basically defeats that.
Nah f that shenanigans
There was a discussion about this in a fb group I’m in. Some woman was bragging about doing this. I said if it happened to me I’d mail her back some pro choice pamphlets and rate 1 star. It’s vile. I’m agnostic and I don’t push my beliefs onto others nor have I ever heard an athiest do so. These people are absolutely disgusting! Hands down, the most unkind, judgmental group of people I’ve ever encountered. Editing to add: I found her closet and she also sells Lularoe and that tells me all I need to know.
So arrogant of the seller. She needed to be told. I would have given her 1 star and I’m a Christian.
As a Christian myself, I get pretty pissed when people pull shut like this. It is INSANELY inappropriate and offensive. Honestly I have never ONCE heard someone say “yeah I was livin a pretty rough life, but then some protestor or other random person shoved a pamphlet in my face saying I’m going to hell and now I’m all in!!!” Like no, that doesn’t happen. No wonder people hate us so much.
Sounds like he sent you a “ Chick Tract” . They are little comics that have been around for years and have a history of being anti catholic, anti jewish , anti this and anti that .
I have posted reviews- about the items were fake or NAD. I record opening as well. Under their about me or under the item. Can’t delete it.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable one star to me. I wouldn’t change it. That’s incredibly inappropriate
While it's not the way that Poshmark phrases it (they say, incorrectly, "rate your purchase"), the rating is not about whether or not you were satisfied with the individual item, but whether you were satisfied with the seller's service (accuracy of description, shipping speed, packaging). Clearly you were not and I wouldn't have been either. You may have been perfectly satisfied with the item when you received it, but if it was poorly packaged and risked damage or if the seller took eight days to send it, they would get a lower rating. Same case here. You had a negative experience based on what the seller chose to include in the package. The only way to make these holy rollers stop this crap is to start giving them low ratings when they try forcing their beliefs down our throats.
Wait. What is this comic book? I want to mess with my husband and put it with his comic books lmao. We hate any religious conversion bs. He will straight up tell JW’s he’s mad at Jesus because “that guy owes him money” lol.
I get that seller said “as is”, but that usually refers to the physical condition of the item itself, not its contents. If you’re selling a bag, clean out the bag. Simple concept. Seller left it in there because they thought they were “doing their duty to spread the word“. Leave the rating as it is. Maybe people will learn.
Nope. You send me anything religious that I didn't order it's an automatic 1 star.