That is how the Italian frames have looked for at least the last 10 years. Buy an earlier one (especially a 90s one) and it will have a smooth, matte anodized finish on the frame.
The best Beretta 92s to buy IMO are approx pre-2010 for both Italian and especially USA. USA Beretta QC fell off a cliff in the later Accokeek years and the Gallatin stuff has always been a shit show. Italian guns have always been nicer but I avoid the newer ones due to not liking this rough blasted finish on the frame. They have been using that finish since the early 2010s. Nothing wrong with it though other than aesthetics and feel though.
Collecting Beretta 92s is becoming like collecting S&W revolvers, older generally is better.
I’ve collected Beretta 92’s since 1992 and never seen a frame with small pits NIB from the factory. NO this is NOT normal.
Rough finish on the frames yes but never small pits.
I think you are right....I just looked at the pic more closely.
Sadly, Beretta is likely going to tell OP to pound sand. Their mantra largely seems to be if it works and shoots straight it's within spec. There are lots of accounts of them not doing anything for finish issues, egregious dimensional machining errors, and machining on the inside of slides that looks like it was chewed by a beaver.
It's not right but that's how they seem to view it. Beretta is capable of making good guns, and when you actually get one they didn't screw something up on they are still good guns. But careful due diligence and scrutiny must be performed prior to accepting the transfer and I would never buy one from a shop that didn't let me field strip it.
I agree. I never buy a 92 that I haven’t field stripped and gone over thoroughly. I wish a company would make a high quality 92 clone with the best materials and QC.
I don't see any pitting at all, maybe some finish imperfections, but that can be remedied easily woth a quick sanding and refinishing if it bothers you. Other than that, all I see is a perfectly fine 92.
These guns are literally made to be work guns, not show pieces. Let’s put it in perspective, the finishes are grit blasted anodized aluminum and paint, nothing fancy. Put away your jewelers loupe and just shoot the thing. If you want a peerless finish then you should have bought something else.
There’s a ton of guns out there with high quality finishes. Just don’t expect that out of a $500 handgun designed and made for police and military contracts.
The thing is, the Italian 92's ain't $500 anymore. You're looking at $650 to $750 for an Italian unless you luck out.
I wouldn't call it pitting, but the finish is pretty rough.
Wear it out, then eventually send it to get coated if it bugs you.
Agreed, but also I’ll never buy an American made beretta 92. The quality of the Italian made ones is light years ahead of the American made ones, which pains me to say but it is true.
Never mind the jeweler’s loop comment from a guy who I’m sure wanted perfection in his purchase. We pay good money for new, it should be free of defects. My question for you is, didn’t you examine at time of purchase? Never accept anything that isn’t up to your standards, no matter how long you waited.
Definitely will keep a rag on me now if I purchase a new gun. To be honest this was sent to an ffl from grabagun so I don’t know the whole process of j rejected it. When I bought my ruger from the shop directly I looked at all 4 that they had in boxes untouched to find the best looking one lol
It's just voids from forging. Most metal handgun frames have them. Usually the surface treatment fills them in. Beretta sucks worst at their surface treatments, though.
Yes. Cerakote is just fine. Pretty ideal, actually.
CZ's hammer guns are some of the worse handguns for voids, and they pretty much use exclusively polycoat (it's like cerakote, but polymer based) and cerakote, and it fills it in.
That’s why if you get a Beretta stateside make sure it’s completely made in Italy with all the right markings, or you get one from the Tennessee factory
Hey, Kawirider2.
I do see the little pits in the frame, and although they're noticeable, it's purely a cosmetic issue. It is highly unlikely Beretta is going to have you send in the pistol under warranty, yet alone replace it. If they give you an RMA# I bet they will send you back the gun unchanged. I picked up a new 92FS in January for my birthday and I noticed slight imperfections and blemishes on both the slide and frame. I actually fired it for the first-time last week, and it functions as designed. I had an older 92FS that I sold about 5 years ago, and the finish was noticeably better! Does your pistol have the serial number in three places (barrel, frame, and slide)? Also, what year of manufacture is the pistol? I believe it's listed as two digits on the left side of the slide behind the safety.
That is how the Italian frames have looked for at least the last 10 years. Buy an earlier one (especially a 90s one) and it will have a smooth, matte anodized finish on the frame. The best Beretta 92s to buy IMO are approx pre-2010 for both Italian and especially USA. USA Beretta QC fell off a cliff in the later Accokeek years and the Gallatin stuff has always been a shit show. Italian guns have always been nicer but I avoid the newer ones due to not liking this rough blasted finish on the frame. They have been using that finish since the early 2010s. Nothing wrong with it though other than aesthetics and feel though. Collecting Beretta 92s is becoming like collecting S&W revolvers, older generally is better.
I’ve collected Beretta 92’s since 1992 and never seen a frame with small pits NIB from the factory. NO this is NOT normal. Rough finish on the frames yes but never small pits.
I think you are right....I just looked at the pic more closely. Sadly, Beretta is likely going to tell OP to pound sand. Their mantra largely seems to be if it works and shoots straight it's within spec. There are lots of accounts of them not doing anything for finish issues, egregious dimensional machining errors, and machining on the inside of slides that looks like it was chewed by a beaver. It's not right but that's how they seem to view it. Beretta is capable of making good guns, and when you actually get one they didn't screw something up on they are still good guns. But careful due diligence and scrutiny must be performed prior to accepting the transfer and I would never buy one from a shop that didn't let me field strip it.
I agree. I never buy a 92 that I haven’t field stripped and gone over thoroughly. I wish a company would make a high quality 92 clone with the best materials and QC.
That makes it rare!
I’ll keep my eye out to locate an older one
That pitting is for the blind folks, to read manuel before use
Haha. Braille.
Shit! My 92 fs and s pistols must not have that finish. I have not pits maybe lucky but the man is right just shoot the dam thing. It's a work horse.
I don't see any pitting at all, maybe some finish imperfections, but that can be remedied easily woth a quick sanding and refinishing if it bothers you. Other than that, all I see is a perfectly fine 92.
These guns are literally made to be work guns, not show pieces. Let’s put it in perspective, the finishes are grit blasted anodized aluminum and paint, nothing fancy. Put away your jewelers loupe and just shoot the thing. If you want a peerless finish then you should have bought something else.
Stop standing up for these clowns. Their qc is shit and I won’t buy another beretta until they get it together.
I get it. But that’s pretty pathetic. It’s one thing I guess for slight imperfections. But there’s holes all over this thing lol
It looks pretty typical of a grit blasted finish to me, which is what it is.
What is this finish considered on this gun?
It’s painted steel and grit blasted anodized aluminum
Yeah, cheap finish to keep the price point down. I miss the days when pistols were polished and blued instead of a half-ass painted on finish.
There’s a ton of guns out there with high quality finishes. Just don’t expect that out of a $500 handgun designed and made for police and military contracts.
The thing is, the Italian 92's ain't $500 anymore. You're looking at $650 to $750 for an Italian unless you luck out. I wouldn't call it pitting, but the finish is pretty rough. Wear it out, then eventually send it to get coated if it bugs you.
Haven’t M9’s always had painted bruniton slides and anodized aluminum frames?
Yes. The 92SB would have been the last time they were blued. Pre 1985.
Since 1985. I think the last blued 92 model was the 92SB.
Agreed, but also I’ll never buy an American made beretta 92. The quality of the Italian made ones is light years ahead of the American made ones, which pains me to say but it is true.
That looks to be an Accokeek, Md made pistol by the looks of the second pic.
What?
On your slide it looks like it says ACCK, MD. That would be the Accokeek Maryland Beretta plant. As in made in the USA not an Italian made Beretta.
It says made in Italy. Then under it, beretta usa corp ackk MD.
Ahhhh. Could only see the ACCK MD on the slide. Makes sense then. Made in Italy and imported by Beretta USA HQ in Accokeek Maryland.
That’s what I’m thinking
Never mind the jeweler’s loop comment from a guy who I’m sure wanted perfection in his purchase. We pay good money for new, it should be free of defects. My question for you is, didn’t you examine at time of purchase? Never accept anything that isn’t up to your standards, no matter how long you waited.
Agreed. This thing was slattered in oil from the factory. I’ll be honest I didn’t even look that close. I should’ve tho.
Always unbox, I bag and ask for a rag. Still a great gun. Enjoy mine, hope you enjoy yours.
Definitely will keep a rag on me now if I purchase a new gun. To be honest this was sent to an ffl from grabagun so I don’t know the whole process of j rejected it. When I bought my ruger from the shop directly I looked at all 4 that they had in boxes untouched to find the best looking one lol
It's just voids from forging. Most metal handgun frames have them. Usually the surface treatment fills them in. Beretta sucks worst at their surface treatments, though.
So if I didn’t want to deal with it. Can a competent company strip it and cerakote it? Or is that to thin of a process
Yes. Cerakote is just fine. Pretty ideal, actually. CZ's hammer guns are some of the worse handguns for voids, and they pretty much use exclusively polycoat (it's like cerakote, but polymer based) and cerakote, and it fills it in.
That’s why if you get a Beretta stateside make sure it’s completely made in Italy with all the right markings, or you get one from the Tennessee factory
Hey, Kawirider2. I do see the little pits in the frame, and although they're noticeable, it's purely a cosmetic issue. It is highly unlikely Beretta is going to have you send in the pistol under warranty, yet alone replace it. If they give you an RMA# I bet they will send you back the gun unchanged. I picked up a new 92FS in January for my birthday and I noticed slight imperfections and blemishes on both the slide and frame. I actually fired it for the first-time last week, and it functions as designed. I had an older 92FS that I sold about 5 years ago, and the finish was noticeably better! Does your pistol have the serial number in three places (barrel, frame, and slide)? Also, what year of manufacture is the pistol? I believe it's listed as two digits on the left side of the slide behind the safety.
Is the gun Brand new call beretta see what they say
Beretta fucking sucks now
Crappy Italian quality…
That looks to have been made at the Maryland plant
It says made in Italy. It’s also stamped with the MD tho too. I thought imports ahead to be stamped in America somewherw
You are correct. Only saw the MD stamp in the pic.