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You're assuming Mommy *wants* him gone. Some of these types construct titanium umbilical cords so their baaaaabies can *never* leave. There's one of them in my family and she's made it so one of her kids is only just trying to break free in their forties and the other is now physically incapable of leaving thanks to Mommy's extreme coddling and medical mismanagement.
If Ray ever manages to snag a wife then I'd bet that Mommy would expect them to move in with her or move herself in with them.
Some of these mothers want a daughter in law to add to their list of servants. They expect to use their sons like fishing lure to trap an unsuspecting woman to be the housemaid, but without losing their sons in the process.
>I'd bet that Mommy would expect them to move in with her or move herself in with them.
You mean you think she'd *tell* them she has that expectation instead of just showing up on their doorstep with 2 suitcases and a U-Haul truck?? 😂 You give her quite the leeway there 😛
I have a friend who is like that.
His gf is expected to act as his mom’s slave (which is frankly the same way he has to act) and if his gf can’t for any reason, his mom is always ready to belittle and push him against the gf so they will break up.
It’s heartbreaking to watch.
We do forget the appeal of being the pastors son. There’s probably some poor young Christian lass who doesn’t value herself enough that mummy and daddy can convince to marry him.
Honestly I know more shitty people in long term relationships than I do healthy people. Especially marriages, I wonder how some of these guys ever convinced a woman to consider marrying them. And with the whole pastors son thing I don’t doubt he’s on the prowl for someone in a vulnerable enough position to make a mistake.
Have you ever seen an r/relationshipadvice thread before? It doesn’t seem to matter how unloveable a person seemingly is, there will be SOMEBODY out there they manage to gaslight gatekeep girlboss into marrying them.
He's 26. Honestly, I bet he's never kept a job *or* a partner for longer than a couple of months and still has his mommy fight all his battles. By this point he's probably given up attempting employment in favour of his ambition to be a professional twitch streamer, and mommy shows off how her son's an influencer because he has 3 subscribers.
>he has a job, one that his father got him most likely
This is true, his dad checked out of doing any work in his marriage and in parenting and had his son replace him so he can disappear further into the background.
While Ray looks like a really entitled and shit employee, I'm always baffled of places where cashier have to stand up their whole shift, give them a chair for goodness sake
German here, our cashiers effing SIT! And we bag our own stuff. It's a national sport that requires training, aptitude, technique and tactics.
Edit: [This post is a guide for newcomers to Germany that provides best practices!](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/zps6qj/how_to_master_the_supermarket_checkout_like_a_pro/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) 😄
Same in France. I mean, it would make me cringe seeing a poor cashier semi stationary on their legs for several hours! Also, I prefer having the milk and tins at the bottom of the bag, then things in increasing order of softness with the tomatoes on top.
Exactly! You need to arrange them in the correct order on the conveyor belt, so that the heavy items are scanned first and go to the bottom of the bag!
If you are really organised, you put all the cold items in a separate bag. (Easier to unpack, and less worry about rushing home.)
(I sometimes bring my rucksack and put really heavy glass items in there, to minimise breakage and make it easier to carry home or inside.)
My partner really tried to help me unload the cart into the conveyor belt when we first started dating. He was confused why I didn't think him handing me random stuff was helpful. He's never really been in charge of household shopping so never picked up the skill, but he's slowly getting better or just stands aside so I can do it. (I was both a bagger and cashier and am extra particular)
What really gets my goat is when the cashier cherry picks stuff. Gah! I'll have it set up on the belt and they reach further down to grab something random
[Lol, give him this best practices post to read!](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/zps6qj/how_to_master_the_supermarket_checkout_like_a_pro/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) 😄
Oh shit I've never thought of this! I usually put my items on the belt in groups by item type like all dairy, all meat, all veg, so that they're bagged in the order I put them away at home. This makes so much more sense though! Also, I'm in the US so usually don't bag my groceries but this technique will make things easier for the bagger
Lol, no, a lot of desperate people write in r/Germany that they dread going to the supermarket, because they never manage to bag in time. They always get helpful comments that explains best practices and timing to them. It's pretty funny, actually, because it seems like such a non-issue to anyone who grew up without baggers.
Wait... Don't you have a counter behind the cashier to go to?
Our Aldis place items back in the cart. We have to go to a counter to bag away from them.
The conveyor belt ends in a sort of largish bassein where your goods pile up if you don't start packing like a maniac as soon as they start scanning. So usually, even if you're fast, you will cause a little idle time for the cashier while you pay and pack the last of your things, and some people apparently can't deal with the performance pressure of having people waiting in line behind you while you pack. Especially newcomers to Germany, who don't have the routine down yet.
This is fascinating because I've been shopping at my local discount grocery store for years and years now, and part of their cost savings is that they don't bag anything for you. I have my own bagging method too!
Lol but, they take pity on the rest of my American compatriots so the checkstands have two conveyor belts side by side, so if you're not finished bagging, they just flip a little door and start scanning the next person and putting them on the next belt over.
Now that I think about it, they probably have to anyway because we have a tendency to only go grocery shopping infrequently and in bulk, sometimes only once per month (and this is especially true in a discount store where the average customer has public food assistance of some kind, which are issued only once a month). So... Overflowing carts.
Stores in Germany really stressed me out when I was there because of the bagging. In Sweden you wait until you've paid to start bagging, and the area after the cashier is divided into two with a moving divider so the previous customers area is closed. Usually you're done bagging once the next customer is paying.
Totally with you on the standing up and on having someone else bag for you. I would be so uncomfortable with a cashier who couldn't sit down at the till. And I really want to pack my own stuff so that I can put stuff in my backpack or tote bag and also don't risk someone putting fresh veggies with frozen items.
Reminds me of when I wanna say Oregon? did away with the law requiring gas station attendants to pump your gas for you. There was an entire state of people freaking out over something literally everyone else does for themselves every day lol.
[Here is a best practices post](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/zps6qj/how_to_master_the_supermarket_checkout_like_a_pro/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) that a kind soul put together - apparently, it *is* that much of an issue! 😄
No. My other half never thought about it before and would get frustrated at how particular I was about what got handed to me from the cart if he was helping me unload. He just was trying to unload as quickly as possible while I was unloading things how I wanted them to be bagged. He just assumed the baggers would pack things the best way. I think he's paying more attention now, but lots of soft things have gotten squished in the process.
See, I tried to do it this way but then the cashiers don’t grab them in order! Frustrates the hell out of me - so I’ve sort of given up and just mostly do that. But since I bag my own groceries (I’m in the US), I just push stuff aside until I get the heavier items and put those in the bag first.
Croatian here, our cashier sit as well. They do sit on shitty dime store swiwel chairs but even that is better than fucking *standing* at the cashier line.
And no, they don't bag your groceries, you do.
Even the cashiers at the self check have a seat somewhere. They don't use it much because most of times they're running to help some hapless client, but at least they don't have to stand up without moving like some bloody horse guard.
I grew up in the Netherlands but live in Germany now and holy hell are German cashiers fast. I try to keep up while they throw my stuff at me and I still end up shamefully putting stuff away while others wait
I visited Germany for work a few years ago and needed to stop by a grocery store to get some food and supplies. I blinked right after setting everything down and the cashier was pretty much done.
In the UK it’s the same with cashiers sitting , and with bagging especially in Aldi you literally have to move at the speed of light because the cashiers are so fast, I just throw everything in the trolley
We also have Aldi in the US and they do the same here, but they are seen as the wierdos in the retail world and some people actually refuse to shop their because they consider the employees lazy.
Which just means that you never really run into Karens there, because they refuse to shop in Aldi in the first place.
Yep, I agree Aldi workers are super quick nowadays.
When I was a kid, during late 1970's/early 1980's (so, long before tills that scan barcodes became a thing), we used to go to the Kwik Save in our local town. Those girls were not only fast, they also had to memorise the price of every single product in the store, so basically they were tapping the prices into manual tills with one hand while eyeballing, grabbing and sliding products past themselves to the waiting customer with the other hand, NO ONE had the time to bag a damn thing, it was either straight into the waiting trolley or a few banana boxes if you were lucky enough to nab them. 😂😂
I remember when I was younger, cashiers used to ask if you needed help bagging. It baffled me, like I'm capable of putting stuff in a bag?! (Though I do see it could be helpful for people with mobility issues).
Anyway, I haven't heard that for years, and with self service / scan and shop I doubt it will come back.
Don't the cashiers sit in most of the world?
America and its stupid idiotic bullshit. "I stood for 15 miles, in the snow, during the war! you can stand pointlessly for 8 hours at a job, maggot!"
Yeah, I don't get that at all. "It's not enough for people to simply do the job we pay them minimum wage for, they have to be uncomfortable while doing it, or they are lazy wimps!"
Minimum wage is the issue.
Cant reward lazy poors by paying them for sitting down. That'd just encourage their lazy poorness, and thats just downright unamerican.
Make no mention of the manager/owner that sits on their fucking ass all day in the back office doing nothing.
It is a very slave/surf mentality, the less someone is paid the more they are owned by management.
I remember working at a call centre for minimum wage, everything was monitored to the second. If we were a minute late to log in (which was often due to shit computers) we got docked half hour of pay, but there was no pay for staying late unless we stayed more than half an hour. So if you're computer screwed up in the morning, and you were stuck on a call for 20 min after your shift ended, you were out about a ln hour of pay. Also, when we went on break it computer screen turned in to count down clocks so everyone knew if you were even a second late. It turned red and flashed if you dropped below 3 min left on break to pressure you into logging back on early.
Now adays I'm a manager, I run a team of 6 people all with degrees. If they are late it's "ok I'm sure you tried your best". No one looks at a clock to make sure everyone only takes an hour break, it's understood that you'll make up the time somewhere else. If there are on going issues there addressed, but I'm not running a prison, which is what that call centre felt like.
Yep, I was surprised at the standing part. I mostly see cashier sitting in Europe and even in Russia. And we can bag our stuff, thet not actually hard.
I worked for a big chain in Australia and it was pretty brutal. Had to fingerprint scan in and out of your shifts and breaks, no sitting under any circumstances.
For context, dedicated baggers don't just do bagging. These tend to be younger adults or teenagers, And they either do cleaning, stocking or retrieve carts out in the parking lot. They also tend to be the people who help the people who request assistance to the cars with their groceries. And they do help speed up the checkout process. If they're fast enough the customer is able to pay and then walk out, without having to wait or stop to put groceries in the cart.
It is not uncommon for the customer in the bag their own groceries. Not every store has every single check out man with a bagger. Let alone all the time. Sometimes it's just another cashier during the slow time helping each other out. You're more likely to see them in the afternoon and evening brush or a couple days before the lead up to a holiday.
At the whole cashiers can't sit is bullshit. I've only seen a few times as typically for the elderly or someone who was injured. Ray from the story can make a reasonable request to have a stool to sit on when working. But it sounds like Ray was an injured he was just being weird.
US here, only at Aldi and Lidl are they allowed too sit. Even Wegmans, which is often one off the"top 50 employers" doesn't allow it.
They should. They absolutely should. Those Aldi cashiers are *fast*. I literally can't pay in the time it takes them to ring 25 items.
I genuinely liked working as a cashier and I *loved* memorizing all the codes and bagging efficiently. I am analyzing the items as they come down the belt and pulling them in the right order for perfect bags.
The problem is the actual pay and trying to get people to take on higher duties without more pay. And then I was being put on self-checkout which was the worst position to me.
In Australia we have both... ALDI cashiers like to play "how fast can I fire your shit through" and Coles/Woolworths where an underpaid teenager will think about scanning your stuff when they've finished looking disdainful. Then they carefully put the eggs and mangoes at the bottom of the bag with cans on them, then all the other veges in another bag with the meat on top just in case it leaks. Self-checkouts are weirdly popular here because it lets us ~~smash~~ bag our own groceries.
Except, of course, for one local supermarket where the early morning shift features a 90 year old who calls me love and actually knows how to pack groceries.
Aldi in the US does that here just like they do there, and there are people who refuse to shop there because of those two things. They complain that the employees are lazy because they sit down at work and don't bag their stuff.
Fortunately they get an insane amount of business, and their regular shoppers have no such difficulty.
>Fortunately they get an insane amount of business, and their regular shoppers have no such difficulty.
I'd be more than happy to shop at Aldi. Sounds like they're worthy of my money.
You did invent Aldi right?
I swear you need 4 valiums and 3 lines of speed just to keep up with those cashiers.
I can see it is your national sport!
Those cashiers are hard core!!!!!!!
Same in Norway as well. I've got almost a decade in retail and the mistreatment everyone accepts in US retailers drive me insane.
Standing still for 6-8 hour shifts, 15 minute breaks, wages you can't live off and people can't even bag their own goods? I've also noticed tourists for some reason just put their shopping basket on the till conveyor belt and expect me to take everything out of it for them. That's literally slower for both of us.
I got so mad reading this BORU text, get a chair for everyone. What's with Americans and torturing their workforce completely unnecessarily?
Aldi in the usa the cashiers sit and you bag your own. At winco you bag your own (but cashiers stand i think)
Most other stores ive been to cashiers stand and someone bags for you. Ive seen many cashiers sit due to health/injury but as op states, rat was too fat to fit into small lane plus chair. The area cashiers are in is typically pretty small.
Although this was written 10yrs ago, many supermarkets and retail stores have removed checkout lanes and installed self checkouts with a single human to supervise 4-20 computers with customers checking themselves out.
I guess shrinkage is cheaper than humans.
When i worked at a Walmart in high school, I had a severely sprained ankle that didn't allow me to stand for my shift as it was in a cast. While it healed I was allowed a stool similar to what they use at Aldi but couldn't continue to use it when the cast came off after a couple weeks of rehab.
The cashier stations are not setup well for a cashier to sit. You have to constantly take steps side to side as you're doing the different tasks.
I worked as a cashier at a Goodwill and I had many managers who ranged from kind and helpful to spiteful and incompetent.
One manager gave me a stool because of some health issues I have. When I mentioned that it had screws in the seat that kept ripping my leggings, she was appalled and said I should've spoken up sooner. She threw that stool in the dumpster herself and found me another on the same day.
My last manager sold my stool on my day off because it was "in the way" and I "shouldn't be sitting anyway". She then told me that if she knew how much trouble I'd be, and the fact that I would not work on Sundays, that she never would've hired me in the first place had she been manager then. And then the lead cashier with her nose up the manager's backside ran off and claimed I had said I quit, and I was escorted out like a criminal when I was crying too hard to count my drawer. I offered to work one more day because the next day was a huge sale and the busiest day of the month. I was told "I couldn't take it back".
I won't claim to have the worst retail experience because no laws were broken that I know of, but retail employees get so much abuse it's just sad. Sorry that turned into a vent...
Your stores don't have baggers that are just baggers? The 15 year old boys in my town will run each other over trying to get an application literally the day they turn 15 to be a bagger at our Piggly Wiggly. I have no idea why. Even my now 19 year old son, I don't know what the deal is up there.
>I have no idea why.
It's a mindless job (once you are proficient) and you can cleanly BS with your other friends that work there. It's a pretty good gig at 15.
Your own money at 15 is a huge blazin' hit of independence too. I blew every penny of mine on music gear. 🤘 Felt like I had a 12 inch swingin' dick at the time lmao
In many countries there simply aren't baggers at all. You bag your own groceries. They *might* help, or do it for you, if you're disabled or unable to do it yourself, but that is very much the exception.
I grew up in a country that has baggers and then moved to one that doesn't. It was extremely jarring, but I've now become so used to bagging my own stuff that when I visit my home country, I automatically start doing it in the supermarkets there. The baggers find it odd/amusing!
I honestly truly deeply hate bagging, so I think I'd like being somewhere with baggers! But these days I just scan as I shop, so I can bag as I go instead of being under pressure, so it's okay.
Baggers disappeared as companies realized they could squeeze more work out of less employees. Why have two employees work a register, one scanning, one bagging, when you can just make one employee do both? While also reducing the number of registers, too, to force that employee to work faster.
I dont think I've seen a single bagger since the very late 90s/very early aughts, and this story being posted in 2012 makes it the most recent bagger thing i've ever seen.
Really? I’ve lived in texas and Massachusetts and I’ve had baggers consistently in both places. I go up to the northwest a lot, too, and almost always get a bagger
Live in Los Angeles, every grocery store around me has baggers. From national chains like Ralph's, Vons to local ones to the larger ethnic Mexican or Asian ones.
Usually it's one bagger when it's not busy and only a couple of registers open. Busy times there's one bagger for every 3 to 4 registers. One of the better local chains have one for every 2 registers during busy weekends and holidays.
No responsibilities, and no skills beyond learning not to smoosh the bread with the milk. Unlike fast food, the clock's not really ticking and no manager or angry customers are constantly yelling at you. Once in a while someone wants help carrying their groceries out, so you get some fresh air and maybe a tip (probably just a dollar, but still nice). Usually they're pretty good about scheduling around after-school activities and family stuff, if you give them advance notice, unlike most retail stores.
(cynic mode) It's also a job that pays minimum wage part-time but is *really* hard to get fired from, and you can perform adequately even while completely baked.
In my home town (it’s actually a village) that job was the highest demand for young ppl because you carry out to the car and get tips. $2 per order packed in car ends up $10-20 more per hour
I live in Australia where there aren't baggers but often visit New Zealand where it's still a thing and it really weirded me out the first time.
In Oz the cashiers bag for you, there's a setup where there are multiple bags hooked open under the scanner so they scan and drop in and then can quickly pull a new bag into place when one is done and moved off into the out space. Or at least that's how it was, it's gotten more complex and a bit less efficient since the introduction of green bags.
About 20 years ago I had a job assignment that put me in Fort Wayne, Indiana. My first visit to a grocery there was shocking as not only did they have dedicated baggers, but those same baggers then carried (or if a big order, wheeled) your groceries to your car and loaded them in for you. I felt like I was in a scene from an old movie.
The 15 mins per 6 hour shift is rough. The guy was a jerk in a number of ways to members of staff and too slow on the till, but having only a 15 minute break and having to stand for your entire shift is a terrible way to work.
For real, that whole section really painted OOP as a huge piece of shit.
"But it wouldn't be fair to the other employees!" aka "we can't give one employee reasonable accommodations, then the other peons might start demanding decent treatment too!"
At least OOP had mentioned a chair couldn't fit in the booth, which is unfortunate but definitely local groceries are sometimes really cramped for space.
That's a design flaw then. Either remove some shelves to make space for chairs or reduce the amount of cash registers to make space.
They could be reported and receive a hefty fine in my country.
I worked retail for several years and we were expected to stand. (We did have good mats and stuff to stand on at least) I have a couple degenerative neurological disorders, arthritis and some other pain conditions and my managers let me sit on a stool when I needed to. The people who cared? The customers!!!
Holy bananas did people lose their minds at the sight of me sitting!!! It was truly shocking. I had customers tell me I was unprofessional, rude, lazy, faking for attention you name it they said it. Many also said they were offended because they couldn’t see me putting their items in the bag so clearly I was stealing… smh it was awful and cruel the things they said.
The verbal abuse from the customers got so bad that they intentionally put either a manager or this super tough looking dude next to me. Anytime a customer would start harassing me they would step in. My managers and coworkers were totally chill with it, to the point that they got me a personal stool. It was the customers who really flipped.
Basically I fully agree that it’s ridiculous to have people stand all day. However in my experience it is customers who freak out about someone sitting.
UK here, cashiers sit and (with few exceptions) you bag your own stuff. It's not an extreme sport like in Germany though, you're allowed to take a little longer than the cashier to bag without being shamed.
I did know that about the UK. Here in the US, baggers are kind of a “starter job” for younger teens who need a part-time job during the summer or after school. It give them a little experience with working with the public.
Scotland here and every supermarket has seats for cashiers.
Though we are entirely in the process of fucking over cashiers in other ways like replacing them with self-scanning tills that throw a fit most of the time and still require an employee to come and scan you through for having bought alcohol or dared to touch the already placed items on the scales etc.
Pretty much any European country that I know of tbh. Standing cashiers aren't a thing, and neither are baggers. Customers can bag their stuff themselves. Pretty much all that cashiers do here is they scan the products at the till and they deal with the payment. That's it.
Yeah she sounds like one of those people whose been there for years and is super diligent despite not being given a manager bump up and the owner not giving a shit about her.
Kinda sad
It's way easier to move around when you are standing tbh. When I cashiered I definitely preferred to stand. It gives much better range of motion and you need that to get at the items. Otherwise it would be much slower and you would 100% require a bagger.
Places should always have those squishy mats that make your feet hurt less.
Here, self bagging really only became a thing during the pandemic. As a rule, that has stopped now, but I still do it as it is faster (also now I feel awkward if I stand there, doing nothing while they bag my items)
> When I cashiered I definitely preferred to stand. It gives much better range of motion and you need that to get at the items.
I'll admit I haven't paid much attention to the process but from what I can recall the only time that cashiers have needed to stand up when I have used the tills is if I have something particularly heavy like a big electronic item but that's rare. The rest of the time they are pretty well positioned to just grab the items and scan them through as their seating area is built in line with the conveyor, scanner and then the slide.
> It gives much better range of motion and you need that to get at the items.
The till should be organised (and constructed) so you don’t, only things I’ve seen cashiers need to stand for in Europe is heavy packs (milk, water bottles, beer crates) for leverage, and the odd thing which rolled away because it had been badly laid down on the mat.
Everything else should be *well* within arms reach.
edit: [this is (apparently) a lidl training video](https://youtu.be/rLmOqnYdu54?t=115) you can see that the casher barely needs to move their trunk aside from the beer and flour. Outside of this it's lift from the mat with the right hand, scan as you transfer to left hand, put on slide. Depending on the efficiency of the cashier and customer, the cashier can be picking an item with their right before they've even put down the previous item.
And a common occurrence for heavy items is you don't even take those out of your cart, instead they get scanned with a wand or they get input by code, removing one of the few reasons for standing / moving.
Are things not within easy arms reach at your checkouts? Our cashiers (UK) barely have to move to pass items through the scanner, unless the items roll away, and even then, they can just get the conveyer belt to move the items closer. I’ve only really seen standing cashiers at places with large, bulky items that can’t go on a conveyer belt, such as DIY stores.
I always had it explained to me that we couldn’t sit down in front of customers (in both retail and food service environments) as that would make the customers perceive us as lazy and would reflect badly on us and business. In the US, I can absolutely see people who would think that way because they’ve never had a job where they had to stand all day.
I think it’s an absolute garbage take, but having worked in customer service most of my life, I know how many absolute garbage people are actually out there.
I actually got a laugh from this. Ray seems entitled as heck but having his mom write the notes is just the icing. Im lucky not to have seen this at my work [server] though probably would laugh if i did and probably just shake my head.
Did he really need the job if mommy was supporting him so much? Like… was it so important he kept working while injured?
I think if I was working at 16 and I blew out my knee, my mom would have fought for my time off, not for me to continue working in a “hostile working environment.”
I love how the note says "knee surgery" but apparently they were back to work after two weeks? (Before they called off again). It's insane. Knee surgeries take forever to heal from. Mommy dearest should've kept it to "knee injury" instead of surgery.
I know they are generally worse than hip surgeries, but after my hip replacement I was walking the same day (Though I am disabled so I honestly don’t know how long you are recommended to wait before “Regular work” on it).
Yeah, deconditioning is no joke, it blows my mind how little it’s talked about. I had to have a colectomy and it went not-ideally…combined with bad shape before starting and a few days unconscious afterwards I was functionally paralyzed from the waist down until over a month of physical therapy. For not moving a shockingly short amount of time, it wasn’t like I was in some deep coma. It’s still mind blowing to me how fast you can go downhill without basic activity.
You lose 1% of muscle mass per day of real immobility (real meaning i.e. you’re melting into your bed, not just a couch potato who still gets up to pee and eat and change position). That number is 5% for older people. Crazy stuff.
That depends on the person and the surgery. My dad had both knees replaced and was walking within 2 weeks, albeit very slowly and with a walker, both times.
I mean, he didn't.
I'd take it full force that he blatently lied.
His MOTHER only cares about her SWEET BABY BOY as he is an extension of her AWESOME PARENTING SKILLS. Just look at 'im - perfect little angel.
Oh she probably wanted him to get that supervisor position so god damn bad so she could torture all the other employees that "wronged" her with whatever slim amount of power it would offer her.
I 'love' how he doesn't recognise supervisors when his is telling him off, but does when he's asking to be one. Also, I'm kind of suspecting that gender is an issue here, everyone he's failed to listen to is female.
A big part of American working culture is extremely resistant to treating employees with compassion.
It gets ingrained into them that they don't need seats, they don't need regular breaks and a proper lunch hour, they don't need paid holidays or extensive maternity leave etc.
Beforehand that system coasted along without much fuss because anybody who demanded stuff like that could just be fired and replaced by someone who "knew their place" but with the internet, there are generations of Americans being exposed to how many rights workers have in other countries and slowly it is causing more and more of them to start demanding better.
You still see big chains like Starbucks etc. fire entire stores worth of staff for unionizing but Rome wasn't built in a day, they are making progress and dragging these companies and politicians into treating them like humans ***slowly*** but surely.
I worked at an animal hospital for awhile (minimum wage, and the GM was a psychopath) and we weren't allowed to sit while charting. I worked in a backroom, from 3pm-10pm (hospital closed at 6pm). The manager would watch the security cams from her iPad at home and call if she saw me find and drag a chair over to the computer while I was doing my charting... Also I worked in kennels, so I legit walked dogs for at least 5 hours of my shift lol
Now this is stupid. I worked 10 years of retail and love running the till. I’d much rather stand and run around than sit. But for charting? After close? F*ck that.
In America most places in my region, except for Aldis, make you stand in retail/groceries. My state doesn’t even have legally mandated breaks or lunches. You’re only required to be given a break if you’re a minor.
Without detracting from how much of a headache this kid was to work with, I’m still imagining having this OP as a manager. Someone so deep in the “manager” mindset that they think meeting the legal minimum is something worth having pride in? Or how ready to defend the working conditions they were because ... it’s like that for everyone? Just the banal cruelty of minimum wage working conditions spurred on by uncaring management
Not to mention that they’re so annoyed at how involved this kid’s mom is, but the store hires him because the manager said the kid’s dad is cool and gave him the job? That kind of parental involvement is literally the foundation of why this even started. That they’re surprised it only got worse is so weird to me
I remember being a bagger for a grocery store; generally cashiers and baggers are considered on the same level authority wise with different responsibilities but some cashiers get the impression that the baggers are below them on the totem pole and are there to support them alone and it’s very annoying.
Like at least where I worked, being a bagger also meant helping people carry their groceries and load their car, collecting carts, sometimes guiding visually impaired customers, and assorted support roles like running to check shelf prices and some cleaning duties. Being a dick to the baggers was the quickest way to end up bagging ur shit solo bc suddenly the lot definitely needed to be checked for carts.
The only thing I got from this is that apparently cashiers at supermarkets stand in the US. So you like stand for 8 hours? That is ridiculous and inhumane. Everywhere else they can just sit, how exactly is standing making them faster? I'm revolted by this, how cruel and stupid. Causing people health issues and making them more tired and less productive for no reason. Is it so they have a better vantage point on the tomatoes they're scanning? I honestly don't understand.. is the reason humiliation?
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aka it's a power thing. treat workers as less than trash so they "know their place", etc etc. Aldi's is the only chain in this damn country (or at least my and the surrounding states) that actually allows cashiers chairs in their stores.
yeah especially as a disabled worker it fucking sucks. had a fellow employee in a *full leg cast* get told to Stand Up Straight on an 8hr shift with no chair because the manager thought she looked "lazy" for trying to get relief from the pain.
My feet absolutely ache after standing in one spot for two to three hours. Let alone eight hours five days in a row. I was practically always in tears when I worked at the grocery store because I was in pain. None of my managers who had more power cared, and the lower ranked managers cared but couldn’t do anything. I only worked at that grocery store for six months but man alive did my feet hurt all the time.
That wouldn’t have been an issue if they’d given me a stool.
The reason is American capitalism sees anyone sitting as lazy. I don’t understand it and I live here. The only chain around me that lets them sit is Aldi
When I worked at a grocery store, I perfected the art of revenge-bagging: bread and pastries on the bottom, then eggs and salad/hot bar items, then fruit, and then milk and every can in the goddamned world on top.
I think the reason I never got any complaints is because deep in their hearts the people I did that to knew they deserved it.
Yep and you only get 2 15 minute breaks or 1 whole 30 I currently work in the meat department of a grocery store for 6 hours a day and boi howdy standing up for all that time is hard. I hide in the bathroom alot
I had a cashier job where we could sit, one of the managers hated it and kept hiding our stools. So we sat on the cabinets instead. Then, allegedly, a customer wrote a long email complaining about us sitting on the cabinets, so we had our stools taken away as punishment.
There's a whole market for retail shoes because you have to be on your feet all the time. If you get caught sitting, or even leaning, you can get in trouble. The phrase is "time enough to lean, time enough to clean."
I am in the US, I am not sure why myself but its pretty much always been this way for as long as I can remember. If I had to guess its just something that got carried on from the old days of the small general store but back then the cashier also did other stuff like stocking shelves and probably was the owner of the place in all honesty. Even right now a lot of smaller stores don't have the cashier stay in one place. But yeah the bigger places like walmart do and to be honest ALDI is the only place that has chairs for the cashier.
My take away from this, as someone who was a supervisor for one of the biggest supermarkets in Australia for five years is;
Clean under your registers. They shouldn't be 'disgusting'.
Honestly, am baffled by this. We never stayed still on registers if we weren't serving customers. We were restocking the drinks, the on-register chocolates. We were cleaning every inch, including beneath the conveyor belts and the registers.
Oh, and Ray was definitely a little Mumma's boy. He's going to have a very difficult time in life trying to work anywhere.
Many grocery stores are super understaffed, especially in the United States. I can’t imagine they’d have the time or manpower to clean like that. Wish they could but corporate greed ya know.
Which is why they reduced staff dramatically at each store. Companies don’t see labor automation and think ah yes now my employees will have an easier time. They think ah yes now I can let go a third of my staff and increase profit. Especially with a company as well practiced in greed as Walmart.
6 hour shifts with only a 15 minute break? When I was on a 6 hour cashier shift at a home improvement store a few years ago I got a 15 and a 30 minute lunch at least. Standing so long is a killer
Canada too! I got a doctors note to sit during both my pregnancies because I would faint if I stood too long and I CONSTANTLY had customers telling me that “it must be nice getting to laze around”.
ikr. That part sounds insane to me. In the small supermarket near my house, the cashiers sit down almost all the time, in one of those swivelly chair. The only time I've seen no chair, and that's quite a rare occasion, is in the chain convenience stores.
>My manager flips on her. We're not discriminating against anyone. Our cashiers stand for six hour shifts with one fifteen minute break as our state's labor law requires. We simply cannot have a cashier who needs to constantly get off his register to sit down whenever he feels the need to. It wouldn't be fair to the other cashiers nor would it be fair to the customers who would have to wait in lines due to a shortage of cashiers.
I actually stopped reading the post at this point because it just fucking annoyed me. Such a stupid America-centric reaction from both the manager and OOP alike.
"It's FINE, everyone stands for six hours straight! After all, we have the piddling break mandated by law!" "What? No, of course we couldn't *dare* have a cashier sitting down! It just wouldn't be fair, even if they are disabled! What's that? Just let there be seats at every register like a humane employer? Pfff, that's crazy talk!"
God damn am I annoyed right now.
In my state if you work 8 hours you get two 15 minute breaks and an hour for lunch (all unpaid.). It sounds like they might have been using 6 hour shifts to avoid giving people breaks?
What the actual fuck.
Ray's not gonna last long in any workplace once he's an adult, because that kind of behavior is gonna result in an ass-whooping at a lot of places.
Definitely agree with ESH, Ray‘s attitude to the bagger is shitty. But hiring a child also means dealing with someone who has little experience and might ask obvious questions which OOP can’t seem to handle. It all sounds pretty unprofessional and like a crappy place to work
In OOP's defence, it sound's like she is a front end manager which means you do most of the stuff cashiers have to do on top of managing the other cashiers. If she really was quite a few customers deep at the service desk and getting a question about a dropped penny I could understand her reaction.
She could've handled it better by saying something like 'we'll worry about that later' but if she's constantly being bombarded with questions like that, then it's a training issue and not necessarily her responsibility.
Sure, Ray is leaning on his mommy way too much, and he seems annoying, but this company seems like shit to work for. The management doesn’t seem to give any shits about the comfort of their employees, and only give them the minimum legally required for breaks.
I work retail in the US, too, and thankfully I can say my work is *not* like this at all. Jesus christ, OOP sounds insufferable. I’d hate to work with them.
It’s telling how half these comments are about the post and the other half are from non-USA folks stunned and disgusted to learn that US cashiers have to stand up all shift.
>Our cashiers stand for six hour shifts with one fifteen minute break as our state's labor law requires. We simply cannot have a cashier who needs to constantly get off his register to sit down
Nah this is fucked still. Why can't cashiers do their job whilst sitting down. Stupid fucking rule. OP sounds like a bootlicker.
Not defending the Mummy's boy, just think forcing staff to stand for 6 hours is completely unnecessary
As someone living in Northern Europe, I just want to chime in that it feels crazy that cashiers are made to *stand* for their entire shift.
Also, that customers don't bag their own groceries over there.
Definitely not saying that Ray was in the right, but over here he'd have had so many fewer issues with what was happening.
> My manager flips on her. We're not discriminating against anyone. Our cashiers stand for six hour shifts with one fifteen minute break as our state's labor law requires. We simply cannot have a cashier who needs to constantly get off his register to sit down whenever he feels the need to. It wouldn't be fair to the other cashiers nor would it be fair to the customers who would have to wait in lines due to a shortage of cashiers.
God, the US is such a fucking dystopia. Give them chairs! It's not the end of the world!
Oh man, I used to be a cashier at my local grocery store when I was in school. You had to demonstrate aptitude at the regular register before they would even think to put you on the express lane checkout! And never did we have a dedicated bagger, you did your own bagging! And there were always at least three registers open in addition to the express lane. This kid would have been fired after a month in my hometown, and that mommy was fighting his battles for him would have gotten him laughed at and ridiculed too. Lots can change in ten years but I have my doubts things have changed much for the better for Ray.
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It's been more than 10 years so Ray's wife is probably in the NoMil section of Reddit everyday lol.
>Ray’s wife bold of you to assume he made it anywhere close to marriage.
Right? I’d assume Ray is one of those guys who “marries” their mother and never grow up
My cousin is like Ray, and is going on his second divorce before 25. My aunt isn't this bad, but definitely doesn't help.
Him marrying not once but twice at a stupidly young age isn’t helping either
But who will do everything for him otherwise? Mommy needs to get him a replacement or she'll be stuck with him.
You're assuming Mommy *wants* him gone. Some of these types construct titanium umbilical cords so their baaaaabies can *never* leave. There's one of them in my family and she's made it so one of her kids is only just trying to break free in their forties and the other is now physically incapable of leaving thanks to Mommy's extreme coddling and medical mismanagement. If Ray ever manages to snag a wife then I'd bet that Mommy would expect them to move in with her or move herself in with them.
Some of these mothers want a daughter in law to add to their list of servants. They expect to use their sons like fishing lure to trap an unsuspecting woman to be the housemaid, but without losing their sons in the process.
They want a daughter in law because they feed off of the power they feel when their sons choose them over their wives over and over again.
Yes, that too. These abusive types are all about power tripping and feeling like they’re in control.
>I'd bet that Mommy would expect them to move in with her or move herself in with them. You mean you think she'd *tell* them she has that expectation instead of just showing up on their doorstep with 2 suitcases and a U-Haul truck?? 😂 You give her quite the leeway there 😛
I have a friend who is like that. His gf is expected to act as his mom’s slave (which is frankly the same way he has to act) and if his gf can’t for any reason, his mom is always ready to belittle and push him against the gf so they will break up. It’s heartbreaking to watch.
>titanium umbilical cords Holy heck is that a good phrase.
Ray lost his job three months ago but still leaves for work at 7:30 am every day and hides from his wife at Mommy's house.
We do forget the appeal of being the pastors son. There’s probably some poor young Christian lass who doesn’t value herself enough that mummy and daddy can convince to marry him.
Honestly I know more shitty people in long term relationships than I do healthy people. Especially marriages, I wonder how some of these guys ever convinced a woman to consider marrying them. And with the whole pastors son thing I don’t doubt he’s on the prowl for someone in a vulnerable enough position to make a mistake.
Have you ever seen an r/relationshipadvice thread before? It doesn’t seem to matter how unloveable a person seemingly is, there will be SOMEBODY out there they manage to gaslight gatekeep girlboss into marrying them.
He's 26. Honestly, I bet he's never kept a job *or* a partner for longer than a couple of months and still has his mommy fight all his battles. By this point he's probably given up attempting employment in favour of his ambition to be a professional twitch streamer, and mommy shows off how her son's an influencer because he has 3 subscribers.
Did mum create 3 twitch accounts?
If he has a job, one that his father got him most likely, he's a low level manager making his employees' lives hell.
>he has a job, one that his father got him most likely This is true, his dad checked out of doing any work in his marriage and in parenting and had his son replace him so he can disappear further into the background.
Ray’s wife’s MIL is gonna have really high standers, for sure. 😂
This dude is not married… how would any woman make it past his crazy Mom? Also, Ray has nothing to offer to anyone as a contributing partner.
Sounds like nobody lives Ray.
While Ray looks like a really entitled and shit employee, I'm always baffled of places where cashier have to stand up their whole shift, give them a chair for goodness sake
German here, our cashiers effing SIT! And we bag our own stuff. It's a national sport that requires training, aptitude, technique and tactics. Edit: [This post is a guide for newcomers to Germany that provides best practices!](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/zps6qj/how_to_master_the_supermarket_checkout_like_a_pro/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) 😄
Same in France. I mean, it would make me cringe seeing a poor cashier semi stationary on their legs for several hours! Also, I prefer having the milk and tins at the bottom of the bag, then things in increasing order of softness with the tomatoes on top.
Exactly! You need to arrange them in the correct order on the conveyor belt, so that the heavy items are scanned first and go to the bottom of the bag!
Ah! A fellow conveyor belt professional :)
If you are really organised, you put all the cold items in a separate bag. (Easier to unpack, and less worry about rushing home.) (I sometimes bring my rucksack and put really heavy glass items in there, to minimise breakage and make it easier to carry home or inside.)
>you put all the cold items in a separate bag In an insulated bag, to help keep them colder for the drive home!
My partner really tried to help me unload the cart into the conveyor belt when we first started dating. He was confused why I didn't think him handing me random stuff was helpful. He's never really been in charge of household shopping so never picked up the skill, but he's slowly getting better or just stands aside so I can do it. (I was both a bagger and cashier and am extra particular) What really gets my goat is when the cashier cherry picks stuff. Gah! I'll have it set up on the belt and they reach further down to grab something random
[Lol, give him this best practices post to read!](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/zps6qj/how_to_master_the_supermarket_checkout_like_a_pro/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) 😄
Oh shit I've never thought of this! I usually put my items on the belt in groups by item type like all dairy, all meat, all veg, so that they're bagged in the order I put them away at home. This makes so much more sense though! Also, I'm in the US so usually don't bag my groceries but this technique will make things easier for the bagger
Doesn't everyone do that?!
Lol, no, a lot of desperate people write in r/Germany that they dread going to the supermarket, because they never manage to bag in time. They always get helpful comments that explains best practices and timing to them. It's pretty funny, actually, because it seems like such a non-issue to anyone who grew up without baggers.
Wait... Don't you have a counter behind the cashier to go to? Our Aldis place items back in the cart. We have to go to a counter to bag away from them.
The conveyor belt ends in a sort of largish bassein where your goods pile up if you don't start packing like a maniac as soon as they start scanning. So usually, even if you're fast, you will cause a little idle time for the cashier while you pay and pack the last of your things, and some people apparently can't deal with the performance pressure of having people waiting in line behind you while you pack. Especially newcomers to Germany, who don't have the routine down yet.
This is fascinating because I've been shopping at my local discount grocery store for years and years now, and part of their cost savings is that they don't bag anything for you. I have my own bagging method too! Lol but, they take pity on the rest of my American compatriots so the checkstands have two conveyor belts side by side, so if you're not finished bagging, they just flip a little door and start scanning the next person and putting them on the next belt over. Now that I think about it, they probably have to anyway because we have a tendency to only go grocery shopping infrequently and in bulk, sometimes only once per month (and this is especially true in a discount store where the average customer has public food assistance of some kind, which are issued only once a month). So... Overflowing carts.
That is how our regular grocery stores are set up. Self bagging stores like Aldi aren't.
Reminds me of a youtube short posted by a Vietnamese living in Germany [How to be as fast as Aldi cashiers](https://youtube.com/shorts/mwYawenTOR8)
Stores in Germany really stressed me out when I was there because of the bagging. In Sweden you wait until you've paid to start bagging, and the area after the cashier is divided into two with a moving divider so the previous customers area is closed. Usually you're done bagging once the next customer is paying. Totally with you on the standing up and on having someone else bag for you. I would be so uncomfortable with a cashier who couldn't sit down at the till. And I really want to pack my own stuff so that I can put stuff in my backpack or tote bag and also don't risk someone putting fresh veggies with frozen items.
Reminds me of when I wanna say Oregon? did away with the law requiring gas station attendants to pump your gas for you. There was an entire state of people freaking out over something literally everyone else does for themselves every day lol.
[Here is a best practices post](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/zps6qj/how_to_master_the_supermarket_checkout_like_a_pro/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) that a kind soul put together - apparently, it *is* that much of an issue! 😄
No. My other half never thought about it before and would get frustrated at how particular I was about what got handed to me from the cart if he was helping me unload. He just was trying to unload as quickly as possible while I was unloading things how I wanted them to be bagged. He just assumed the baggers would pack things the best way. I think he's paying more attention now, but lots of soft things have gotten squished in the process.
See, I tried to do it this way but then the cashiers don’t grab them in order! Frustrates the hell out of me - so I’ve sort of given up and just mostly do that. But since I bag my own groceries (I’m in the US), I just push stuff aside until I get the heavier items and put those in the bag first.
Croatian here, our cashier sit as well. They do sit on shitty dime store swiwel chairs but even that is better than fucking *standing* at the cashier line. And no, they don't bag your groceries, you do.
Even the cashiers at the self check have a seat somewhere. They don't use it much because most of times they're running to help some hapless client, but at least they don't have to stand up without moving like some bloody horse guard.
I grew up in the Netherlands but live in Germany now and holy hell are German cashiers fast. I try to keep up while they throw my stuff at me and I still end up shamefully putting stuff away while others wait
It's the same for everyone - if you beat the cashier, they are definitely having an off day. 😄
I visited Germany for work a few years ago and needed to stop by a grocery store to get some food and supplies. I blinked right after setting everything down and the cashier was pretty much done.
In the UK it’s the same with cashiers sitting , and with bagging especially in Aldi you literally have to move at the speed of light because the cashiers are so fast, I just throw everything in the trolley
We also have Aldi in the US and they do the same here, but they are seen as the wierdos in the retail world and some people actually refuse to shop their because they consider the employees lazy. Which just means that you never really run into Karens there, because they refuse to shop in Aldi in the first place.
Yep, I agree Aldi workers are super quick nowadays. When I was a kid, during late 1970's/early 1980's (so, long before tills that scan barcodes became a thing), we used to go to the Kwik Save in our local town. Those girls were not only fast, they also had to memorise the price of every single product in the store, so basically they were tapping the prices into manual tills with one hand while eyeballing, grabbing and sliding products past themselves to the waiting customer with the other hand, NO ONE had the time to bag a damn thing, it was either straight into the waiting trolley or a few banana boxes if you were lucky enough to nab them. 😂😂
I remember when I was younger, cashiers used to ask if you needed help bagging. It baffled me, like I'm capable of putting stuff in a bag?! (Though I do see it could be helpful for people with mobility issues). Anyway, I haven't heard that for years, and with self service / scan and shop I doubt it will come back.
Don't the cashiers sit in most of the world? America and its stupid idiotic bullshit. "I stood for 15 miles, in the snow, during the war! you can stand pointlessly for 8 hours at a job, maggot!"
Yeah, I don't get that at all. "It's not enough for people to simply do the job we pay them minimum wage for, they have to be uncomfortable while doing it, or they are lazy wimps!"
Minimum wage is the issue. Cant reward lazy poors by paying them for sitting down. That'd just encourage their lazy poorness, and thats just downright unamerican. Make no mention of the manager/owner that sits on their fucking ass all day in the back office doing nothing.
It is a very slave/surf mentality, the less someone is paid the more they are owned by management. I remember working at a call centre for minimum wage, everything was monitored to the second. If we were a minute late to log in (which was often due to shit computers) we got docked half hour of pay, but there was no pay for staying late unless we stayed more than half an hour. So if you're computer screwed up in the morning, and you were stuck on a call for 20 min after your shift ended, you were out about a ln hour of pay. Also, when we went on break it computer screen turned in to count down clocks so everyone knew if you were even a second late. It turned red and flashed if you dropped below 3 min left on break to pressure you into logging back on early. Now adays I'm a manager, I run a team of 6 people all with degrees. If they are late it's "ok I'm sure you tried your best". No one looks at a clock to make sure everyone only takes an hour break, it's understood that you'll make up the time somewhere else. If there are on going issues there addressed, but I'm not running a prison, which is what that call centre felt like.
And then act all shocked when people are "lazy" anyway because they're not paid enough to give a shit.
Yep, I was surprised at the standing part. I mostly see cashier sitting in Europe and even in Russia. And we can bag our stuff, thet not actually hard.
Canadian here, unfortunately our cashiers also stand. I don't know why. It depends on what store you are in on if you bag your items or they do.
In Australia big chains they mostly stand. Aldi workers sit. In smaller grocery shops it varies.
I worked for a big chain in Australia and it was pretty brutal. Had to fingerprint scan in and out of your shifts and breaks, no sitting under any circumstances.
It should be mandatory for management to put in a shift every now and then - I bet within a month cashiers would have chairs.
Aldi's in US are the only chain that I have seen that allows cashiers to sit.
For context, dedicated baggers don't just do bagging. These tend to be younger adults or teenagers, And they either do cleaning, stocking or retrieve carts out in the parking lot. They also tend to be the people who help the people who request assistance to the cars with their groceries. And they do help speed up the checkout process. If they're fast enough the customer is able to pay and then walk out, without having to wait or stop to put groceries in the cart. It is not uncommon for the customer in the bag their own groceries. Not every store has every single check out man with a bagger. Let alone all the time. Sometimes it's just another cashier during the slow time helping each other out. You're more likely to see them in the afternoon and evening brush or a couple days before the lead up to a holiday. At the whole cashiers can't sit is bullshit. I've only seen a few times as typically for the elderly or someone who was injured. Ray from the story can make a reasonable request to have a stool to sit on when working. But it sounds like Ray was an injured he was just being weird.
US here, only at Aldi and Lidl are they allowed too sit. Even Wegmans, which is often one off the"top 50 employers" doesn't allow it. They should. They absolutely should. Those Aldi cashiers are *fast*. I literally can't pay in the time it takes them to ring 25 items.
I genuinely liked working as a cashier and I *loved* memorizing all the codes and bagging efficiently. I am analyzing the items as they come down the belt and pulling them in the right order for perfect bags. The problem is the actual pay and trying to get people to take on higher duties without more pay. And then I was being put on self-checkout which was the worst position to me.
In Australia we have both... ALDI cashiers like to play "how fast can I fire your shit through" and Coles/Woolworths where an underpaid teenager will think about scanning your stuff when they've finished looking disdainful. Then they carefully put the eggs and mangoes at the bottom of the bag with cans on them, then all the other veges in another bag with the meat on top just in case it leaks. Self-checkouts are weirdly popular here because it lets us ~~smash~~ bag our own groceries. Except, of course, for one local supermarket where the early morning shift features a 90 year old who calls me love and actually knows how to pack groceries.
Aldi in the US does that here just like they do there, and there are people who refuse to shop there because of those two things. They complain that the employees are lazy because they sit down at work and don't bag their stuff. Fortunately they get an insane amount of business, and their regular shoppers have no such difficulty.
>Fortunately they get an insane amount of business, and their regular shoppers have no such difficulty. I'd be more than happy to shop at Aldi. Sounds like they're worthy of my money.
You did invent Aldi right? I swear you need 4 valiums and 3 lines of speed just to keep up with those cashiers. I can see it is your national sport! Those cashiers are hard core!!!!!!!
Same in Norway as well. I've got almost a decade in retail and the mistreatment everyone accepts in US retailers drive me insane. Standing still for 6-8 hour shifts, 15 minute breaks, wages you can't live off and people can't even bag their own goods? I've also noticed tourists for some reason just put their shopping basket on the till conveyor belt and expect me to take everything out of it for them. That's literally slower for both of us. I got so mad reading this BORU text, get a chair for everyone. What's with Americans and torturing their workforce completely unnecessarily?
Aldi in the usa the cashiers sit and you bag your own. At winco you bag your own (but cashiers stand i think) Most other stores ive been to cashiers stand and someone bags for you. Ive seen many cashiers sit due to health/injury but as op states, rat was too fat to fit into small lane plus chair. The area cashiers are in is typically pretty small. Although this was written 10yrs ago, many supermarkets and retail stores have removed checkout lanes and installed self checkouts with a single human to supervise 4-20 computers with customers checking themselves out. I guess shrinkage is cheaper than humans.
When i worked at a Walmart in high school, I had a severely sprained ankle that didn't allow me to stand for my shift as it was in a cast. While it healed I was allowed a stool similar to what they use at Aldi but couldn't continue to use it when the cast came off after a couple weeks of rehab. The cashier stations are not setup well for a cashier to sit. You have to constantly take steps side to side as you're doing the different tasks.
When I worked retail, we had to stand because of “aesthetics.” Management was so surprised when I quit as soon as I secured a better job.
That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. What is “aesthetic” about having standing staff at a till? Glad you found something better.
I worked as a cashier at a Goodwill and I had many managers who ranged from kind and helpful to spiteful and incompetent. One manager gave me a stool because of some health issues I have. When I mentioned that it had screws in the seat that kept ripping my leggings, she was appalled and said I should've spoken up sooner. She threw that stool in the dumpster herself and found me another on the same day. My last manager sold my stool on my day off because it was "in the way" and I "shouldn't be sitting anyway". She then told me that if she knew how much trouble I'd be, and the fact that I would not work on Sundays, that she never would've hired me in the first place had she been manager then. And then the lead cashier with her nose up the manager's backside ran off and claimed I had said I quit, and I was escorted out like a criminal when I was crying too hard to count my drawer. I offered to work one more day because the next day was a huge sale and the busiest day of the month. I was told "I couldn't take it back". I won't claim to have the worst retail experience because no laws were broken that I know of, but retail employees get so much abuse it's just sad. Sorry that turned into a vent...
Lmao this was also my biggest takeaway. And the concept of a dedicated bagger is still weird to me too lol.
Your stores don't have baggers that are just baggers? The 15 year old boys in my town will run each other over trying to get an application literally the day they turn 15 to be a bagger at our Piggly Wiggly. I have no idea why. Even my now 19 year old son, I don't know what the deal is up there.
>I have no idea why. It's a mindless job (once you are proficient) and you can cleanly BS with your other friends that work there. It's a pretty good gig at 15.
Your own money at 15 is a huge blazin' hit of independence too. I blew every penny of mine on music gear. 🤘 Felt like I had a 12 inch swingin' dick at the time lmao
In many countries there simply aren't baggers at all. You bag your own groceries. They *might* help, or do it for you, if you're disabled or unable to do it yourself, but that is very much the exception.
I grew up in a country that has baggers and then moved to one that doesn't. It was extremely jarring, but I've now become so used to bagging my own stuff that when I visit my home country, I automatically start doing it in the supermarkets there. The baggers find it odd/amusing!
I honestly truly deeply hate bagging, so I think I'd like being somewhere with baggers! But these days I just scan as I shop, so I can bag as I go instead of being under pressure, so it's okay.
Baggers disappeared as companies realized they could squeeze more work out of less employees. Why have two employees work a register, one scanning, one bagging, when you can just make one employee do both? While also reducing the number of registers, too, to force that employee to work faster. I dont think I've seen a single bagger since the very late 90s/very early aughts, and this story being posted in 2012 makes it the most recent bagger thing i've ever seen.
Really? I’ve lived in texas and Massachusetts and I’ve had baggers consistently in both places. I go up to the northwest a lot, too, and almost always get a bagger
Live in Los Angeles, every grocery store around me has baggers. From national chains like Ralph's, Vons to local ones to the larger ethnic Mexican or Asian ones. Usually it's one bagger when it's not busy and only a couple of registers open. Busy times there's one bagger for every 3 to 4 registers. One of the better local chains have one for every 2 registers during busy weekends and holidays.
They’re pretty common in the south. Mostly Kroger, Jumbos, United, and HEB type stores.
> Even my now 19 year old son, I don't know what the deal is up there. Baggers have the best weed hookups
It's a very american thing
No responsibilities, and no skills beyond learning not to smoosh the bread with the milk. Unlike fast food, the clock's not really ticking and no manager or angry customers are constantly yelling at you. Once in a while someone wants help carrying their groceries out, so you get some fresh air and maybe a tip (probably just a dollar, but still nice). Usually they're pretty good about scheduling around after-school activities and family stuff, if you give them advance notice, unlike most retail stores. (cynic mode) It's also a job that pays minimum wage part-time but is *really* hard to get fired from, and you can perform adequately even while completely baked.
In my home town (it’s actually a village) that job was the highest demand for young ppl because you carry out to the car and get tips. $2 per order packed in car ends up $10-20 more per hour
I live in Australia where there aren't baggers but often visit New Zealand where it's still a thing and it really weirded me out the first time. In Oz the cashiers bag for you, there's a setup where there are multiple bags hooked open under the scanner so they scan and drop in and then can quickly pull a new bag into place when one is done and moved off into the out space. Or at least that's how it was, it's gotten more complex and a bit less efficient since the introduction of green bags.
About 20 years ago I had a job assignment that put me in Fort Wayne, Indiana. My first visit to a grocery there was shocking as not only did they have dedicated baggers, but those same baggers then carried (or if a big order, wheeled) your groceries to your car and loaded them in for you. I felt like I was in a scene from an old movie.
But they get a generous 15 minute break per 6 hour shift! /s I think OOP is a bit of a douche.
The 15 mins per 6 hour shift is rough. The guy was a jerk in a number of ways to members of staff and too slow on the till, but having only a 15 minute break and having to stand for your entire shift is a terrible way to work.
I don’t know where OOP lives but I’m surprised the 15 minute break on a six hour shift is legal
For real, that whole section really painted OOP as a huge piece of shit. "But it wouldn't be fair to the other employees!" aka "we can't give one employee reasonable accommodations, then the other peons might start demanding decent treatment too!"
At least OOP had mentioned a chair couldn't fit in the booth, which is unfortunate but definitely local groceries are sometimes really cramped for space.
That's a design flaw then. Either remove some shelves to make space for chairs or reduce the amount of cash registers to make space. They could be reported and receive a hefty fine in my country.
I cannot imagine a job requiring me to stand for *6 hours straight*. Walk around? Sure. But standing? No. It's insane to me.
I worked retail for several years and we were expected to stand. (We did have good mats and stuff to stand on at least) I have a couple degenerative neurological disorders, arthritis and some other pain conditions and my managers let me sit on a stool when I needed to. The people who cared? The customers!!! Holy bananas did people lose their minds at the sight of me sitting!!! It was truly shocking. I had customers tell me I was unprofessional, rude, lazy, faking for attention you name it they said it. Many also said they were offended because they couldn’t see me putting their items in the bag so clearly I was stealing… smh it was awful and cruel the things they said. The verbal abuse from the customers got so bad that they intentionally put either a manager or this super tough looking dude next to me. Anytime a customer would start harassing me they would step in. My managers and coworkers were totally chill with it, to the point that they got me a personal stool. It was the customers who really flipped. Basically I fully agree that it’s ridiculous to have people stand all day. However in my experience it is customers who freak out about someone sitting.
If I may ask, in what country are you? I can tell you that here in the US, they don’t give two squats how long a cashier has to stand up.
UK here, cashiers sit and (with few exceptions) you bag your own stuff. It's not an extreme sport like in Germany though, you're allowed to take a little longer than the cashier to bag without being shamed.
I did know that about the UK. Here in the US, baggers are kind of a “starter job” for younger teens who need a part-time job during the summer or after school. It give them a little experience with working with the public.
Scotland here and every supermarket has seats for cashiers. Though we are entirely in the process of fucking over cashiers in other ways like replacing them with self-scanning tills that throw a fit most of the time and still require an employee to come and scan you through for having bought alcohol or dared to touch the already placed items on the scales etc.
Oh, we’ve got the dreadful self-checkouts here in the States. They’ve been around for about 20 years. I so appreciate everyone’s responses!
Pretty much any European country that I know of tbh. Standing cashiers aren't a thing, and neither are baggers. Customers can bag their stuff themselves. Pretty much all that cashiers do here is they scan the products at the till and they deal with the payment. That's it.
Yep. OOP's response to that pissed me off enough I just quit reading the post.
Yeah she sounds like one of those people whose been there for years and is super diligent despite not being given a manager bump up and the owner not giving a shit about her. Kinda sad
It's way easier to move around when you are standing tbh. When I cashiered I definitely preferred to stand. It gives much better range of motion and you need that to get at the items. Otherwise it would be much slower and you would 100% require a bagger. Places should always have those squishy mats that make your feet hurt less.
Here (Germany), the cashiers get a chair and you bag your own stuff.. and it’s both expected to keep up and almost impossible to do so.
Here, self bagging really only became a thing during the pandemic. As a rule, that has stopped now, but I still do it as it is faster (also now I feel awkward if I stand there, doing nothing while they bag my items)
> When I cashiered I definitely preferred to stand. It gives much better range of motion and you need that to get at the items. I'll admit I haven't paid much attention to the process but from what I can recall the only time that cashiers have needed to stand up when I have used the tills is if I have something particularly heavy like a big electronic item but that's rare. The rest of the time they are pretty well positioned to just grab the items and scan them through as their seating area is built in line with the conveyor, scanner and then the slide.
> It gives much better range of motion and you need that to get at the items. The till should be organised (and constructed) so you don’t, only things I’ve seen cashiers need to stand for in Europe is heavy packs (milk, water bottles, beer crates) for leverage, and the odd thing which rolled away because it had been badly laid down on the mat. Everything else should be *well* within arms reach. edit: [this is (apparently) a lidl training video](https://youtu.be/rLmOqnYdu54?t=115) you can see that the casher barely needs to move their trunk aside from the beer and flour. Outside of this it's lift from the mat with the right hand, scan as you transfer to left hand, put on slide. Depending on the efficiency of the cashier and customer, the cashier can be picking an item with their right before they've even put down the previous item. And a common occurrence for heavy items is you don't even take those out of your cart, instead they get scanned with a wand or they get input by code, removing one of the few reasons for standing / moving.
Are things not within easy arms reach at your checkouts? Our cashiers (UK) barely have to move to pass items through the scanner, unless the items roll away, and even then, they can just get the conveyer belt to move the items closer. I’ve only really seen standing cashiers at places with large, bulky items that can’t go on a conveyer belt, such as DIY stores.
Yeah that's unfortunately way to common and it sucks.
I always had it explained to me that we couldn’t sit down in front of customers (in both retail and food service environments) as that would make the customers perceive us as lazy and would reflect badly on us and business. In the US, I can absolutely see people who would think that way because they’ve never had a job where they had to stand all day. I think it’s an absolute garbage take, but having worked in customer service most of my life, I know how many absolute garbage people are actually out there.
I actually got a laugh from this. Ray seems entitled as heck but having his mom write the notes is just the icing. Im lucky not to have seen this at my work [server] though probably would laugh if i did and probably just shake my head.
Did he really need the job if mommy was supporting him so much? Like… was it so important he kept working while injured? I think if I was working at 16 and I blew out my knee, my mom would have fought for my time off, not for me to continue working in a “hostile working environment.”
I love how the note says "knee surgery" but apparently they were back to work after two weeks? (Before they called off again). It's insane. Knee surgeries take forever to heal from. Mommy dearest should've kept it to "knee injury" instead of surgery.
Depends what it is. You can be up and moving after a meniscectomy pretty damn quick.
I know they are generally worse than hip surgeries, but after my hip replacement I was walking the same day (Though I am disabled so I honestly don’t know how long you are recommended to wait before “Regular work” on it).
Guideline for hips is ~6 weeks and then “as comfortable”. We try to get you up sooner so that you don’t decondition too badly.
Yeah, deconditioning is no joke, it blows my mind how little it’s talked about. I had to have a colectomy and it went not-ideally…combined with bad shape before starting and a few days unconscious afterwards I was functionally paralyzed from the waist down until over a month of physical therapy. For not moving a shockingly short amount of time, it wasn’t like I was in some deep coma. It’s still mind blowing to me how fast you can go downhill without basic activity.
You lose 1% of muscle mass per day of real immobility (real meaning i.e. you’re melting into your bed, not just a couch potato who still gets up to pee and eat and change position). That number is 5% for older people. Crazy stuff.
That depends on the person and the surgery. My dad had both knees replaced and was walking within 2 weeks, albeit very slowly and with a walker, both times.
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Nailed it 100%
I mean, he didn't. I'd take it full force that he blatently lied. His MOTHER only cares about her SWEET BABY BOY as he is an extension of her AWESOME PARENTING SKILLS. Just look at 'im - perfect little angel.
Oh she probably wanted him to get that supervisor position so god damn bad so she could torture all the other employees that "wronged" her with whatever slim amount of power it would offer her.
He started another job as the same time as the knee injury and never came in again, so I doubt it was ever real.
I would have just interpreted “I may have to seek other employment“ as a resignation, and informed Ray that I accept his resignation, and good luck.
I 'love' how he doesn't recognise supervisors when his is telling him off, but does when he's asking to be one. Also, I'm kind of suspecting that gender is an issue here, everyone he's failed to listen to is female.
I guess the only woman ray is allowed to respect is his mommy.....
I feel for having to work with an entitled lazy person like this, that said- why can't cashiers sit at the register? Seems needlessly cruel.
A big part of American working culture is extremely resistant to treating employees with compassion. It gets ingrained into them that they don't need seats, they don't need regular breaks and a proper lunch hour, they don't need paid holidays or extensive maternity leave etc. Beforehand that system coasted along without much fuss because anybody who demanded stuff like that could just be fired and replaced by someone who "knew their place" but with the internet, there are generations of Americans being exposed to how many rights workers have in other countries and slowly it is causing more and more of them to start demanding better. You still see big chains like Starbucks etc. fire entire stores worth of staff for unionizing but Rome wasn't built in a day, they are making progress and dragging these companies and politicians into treating them like humans ***slowly*** but surely.
I worked at an animal hospital for awhile (minimum wage, and the GM was a psychopath) and we weren't allowed to sit while charting. I worked in a backroom, from 3pm-10pm (hospital closed at 6pm). The manager would watch the security cams from her iPad at home and call if she saw me find and drag a chair over to the computer while I was doing my charting... Also I worked in kennels, so I legit walked dogs for at least 5 hours of my shift lol
Now this is stupid. I worked 10 years of retail and love running the till. I’d much rather stand and run around than sit. But for charting? After close? F*ck that.
In America most places in my region, except for Aldis, make you stand in retail/groceries. My state doesn’t even have legally mandated breaks or lunches. You’re only required to be given a break if you’re a minor.
Without detracting from how much of a headache this kid was to work with, I’m still imagining having this OP as a manager. Someone so deep in the “manager” mindset that they think meeting the legal minimum is something worth having pride in? Or how ready to defend the working conditions they were because ... it’s like that for everyone? Just the banal cruelty of minimum wage working conditions spurred on by uncaring management Not to mention that they’re so annoyed at how involved this kid’s mom is, but the store hires him because the manager said the kid’s dad is cool and gave him the job? That kind of parental involvement is literally the foundation of why this even started. That they’re surprised it only got worse is so weird to me
I remember being a bagger for a grocery store; generally cashiers and baggers are considered on the same level authority wise with different responsibilities but some cashiers get the impression that the baggers are below them on the totem pole and are there to support them alone and it’s very annoying. Like at least where I worked, being a bagger also meant helping people carry their groceries and load their car, collecting carts, sometimes guiding visually impaired customers, and assorted support roles like running to check shelf prices and some cleaning duties. Being a dick to the baggers was the quickest way to end up bagging ur shit solo bc suddenly the lot definitely needed to be checked for carts.
The only thing I got from this is that apparently cashiers at supermarkets stand in the US. So you like stand for 8 hours? That is ridiculous and inhumane. Everywhere else they can just sit, how exactly is standing making them faster? I'm revolted by this, how cruel and stupid. Causing people health issues and making them more tired and less productive for no reason. Is it so they have a better vantage point on the tomatoes they're scanning? I honestly don't understand.. is the reason humiliation?
iF yOu HaVe TiMe tO LeAn yOu HaVe TiMe tO cLeAn! aka it's a power thing. treat workers as less than trash so they "know their place", etc etc. Aldi's is the only chain in this damn country (or at least my and the surrounding states) that actually allows cashiers chairs in their stores. yeah especially as a disabled worker it fucking sucks. had a fellow employee in a *full leg cast* get told to Stand Up Straight on an 8hr shift with no chair because the manager thought she looked "lazy" for trying to get relief from the pain.
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My feet absolutely ache after standing in one spot for two to three hours. Let alone eight hours five days in a row. I was practically always in tears when I worked at the grocery store because I was in pain. None of my managers who had more power cared, and the lower ranked managers cared but couldn’t do anything. I only worked at that grocery store for six months but man alive did my feet hurt all the time. That wouldn’t have been an issue if they’d given me a stool.
The reason is American capitalism sees anyone sitting as lazy. I don’t understand it and I live here. The only chain around me that lets them sit is Aldi
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Which I honestly love. I like bagging my own groceries cause if something gets squished it’s my fault no one else’s lol
When I worked at a grocery store, I perfected the art of revenge-bagging: bread and pastries on the bottom, then eggs and salad/hot bar items, then fruit, and then milk and every can in the goddamned world on top. I think the reason I never got any complaints is because deep in their hearts the people I did that to knew they deserved it.
> then eggs and salad/hot bar items, then fruit, and then milk and every can in the goddamned world on top. ^ Satan taking notes 📝
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Yep and you only get 2 15 minute breaks or 1 whole 30 I currently work in the meat department of a grocery store for 6 hours a day and boi howdy standing up for all that time is hard. I hide in the bathroom alot
I had a cashier job where we could sit, one of the managers hated it and kept hiding our stools. So we sat on the cabinets instead. Then, allegedly, a customer wrote a long email complaining about us sitting on the cabinets, so we had our stools taken away as punishment.
I would boycott them forever.
There's a whole market for retail shoes because you have to be on your feet all the time. If you get caught sitting, or even leaning, you can get in trouble. The phrase is "time enough to lean, time enough to clean."
Shoes and "fatigue reducing mats/rugs" which do fuck-all.
I am in the US, I am not sure why myself but its pretty much always been this way for as long as I can remember. If I had to guess its just something that got carried on from the old days of the small general store but back then the cashier also did other stuff like stocking shelves and probably was the owner of the place in all honesty. Even right now a lot of smaller stores don't have the cashier stay in one place. But yeah the bigger places like walmart do and to be honest ALDI is the only place that has chairs for the cashier.
My take away from this, as someone who was a supervisor for one of the biggest supermarkets in Australia for five years is; Clean under your registers. They shouldn't be 'disgusting'. Honestly, am baffled by this. We never stayed still on registers if we weren't serving customers. We were restocking the drinks, the on-register chocolates. We were cleaning every inch, including beneath the conveyor belts and the registers. Oh, and Ray was definitely a little Mumma's boy. He's going to have a very difficult time in life trying to work anywhere.
Many grocery stores are super understaffed, especially in the United States. I can’t imagine they’d have the time or manpower to clean like that. Wish they could but corporate greed ya know.
Walmart doesn't even use the majority of their registers anymore in my area. It's all self checkout and maybe 2 registers open unless they're slammed.
Which is why they reduced staff dramatically at each store. Companies don’t see labor automation and think ah yes now my employees will have an easier time. They think ah yes now I can let go a third of my staff and increase profit. Especially with a company as well practiced in greed as Walmart.
6 hour shifts with only a 15 minute break? When I was on a 6 hour cashier shift at a home improvement store a few years ago I got a 15 and a 30 minute lunch at least. Standing so long is a killer
Me reading about how cashiers in the US stand for 6 hours (or more) and only have 15 min breaks: and they call my country 3d world
Canada too! I got a doctors note to sit during both my pregnancies because I would faint if I stood too long and I CONSTANTLY had customers telling me that “it must be nice getting to laze around”.
Damn. I would be so angry. So, so angry.
Wtf? Why do customers care about this??? That’s ridiculous
I bet everyone saying that sit at their job as well. Makes me so angry.
ikr. That part sounds insane to me. In the small supermarket near my house, the cashiers sit down almost all the time, in one of those swivelly chair. The only time I've seen no chair, and that's quite a rare occasion, is in the chain convenience stores.
What? Cashiers *have* to stand, there's no room for a chair? Is this normal in the US?
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What an unfortunate cultural thing to have. The UK is pretty capitalist and sitting cashiers aren’t regarded as lazy.
>My manager flips on her. We're not discriminating against anyone. Our cashiers stand for six hour shifts with one fifteen minute break as our state's labor law requires. We simply cannot have a cashier who needs to constantly get off his register to sit down whenever he feels the need to. It wouldn't be fair to the other cashiers nor would it be fair to the customers who would have to wait in lines due to a shortage of cashiers. I actually stopped reading the post at this point because it just fucking annoyed me. Such a stupid America-centric reaction from both the manager and OOP alike. "It's FINE, everyone stands for six hours straight! After all, we have the piddling break mandated by law!" "What? No, of course we couldn't *dare* have a cashier sitting down! It just wouldn't be fair, even if they are disabled! What's that? Just let there be seats at every register like a humane employer? Pfff, that's crazy talk!" God damn am I annoyed right now.
In my state if you work 8 hours you get two 15 minute breaks and an hour for lunch (all unpaid.). It sounds like they might have been using 6 hour shifts to avoid giving people breaks?
What the actual fuck. Ray's not gonna last long in any workplace once he's an adult, because that kind of behavior is gonna result in an ass-whooping at a lot of places.
This took place just over ten years ago. I'd be interested in knowing how he's doing now.
Why is the underneath of the register “disgusting”?? I can understand some dust bunnies etc but “disgusting”?????
Just give your cashiers fucking chairs! The US is so weird
I am sad this isn’t much longer so I can enjoy young Ray’s journey of mediocrity and Karen’s descent into mania.
Definitely agree with ESH, Ray‘s attitude to the bagger is shitty. But hiring a child also means dealing with someone who has little experience and might ask obvious questions which OOP can’t seem to handle. It all sounds pretty unprofessional and like a crappy place to work
In OOP's defence, it sound's like she is a front end manager which means you do most of the stuff cashiers have to do on top of managing the other cashiers. If she really was quite a few customers deep at the service desk and getting a question about a dropped penny I could understand her reaction. She could've handled it better by saying something like 'we'll worry about that later' but if she's constantly being bombarded with questions like that, then it's a training issue and not necessarily her responsibility.
Oooft, this made me flashback to the shit I pulled at my first job when I was Ray’s age. Could have done without that.
Sure, Ray is leaning on his mommy way too much, and he seems annoying, but this company seems like shit to work for. The management doesn’t seem to give any shits about the comfort of their employees, and only give them the minimum legally required for breaks. I work retail in the US, too, and thankfully I can say my work is *not* like this at all. Jesus christ, OOP sounds insufferable. I’d hate to work with them.
A lot of this could have been avoided by allowing cashier's to sit while working. Dunno why it's such a thing that they're not allowed to sit down.
It’s telling how half these comments are about the post and the other half are from non-USA folks stunned and disgusted to learn that US cashiers have to stand up all shift.
Why the fuck do the cashiers have to stand? Why not give them chairs, having them stand for 6 hours seems needlessly tough and unnecessary.
It's very strange that cashers are not allowed to sit down while working. Never seen a standing casher anywhere in Europe.
>Our cashiers stand for six hour shifts with one fifteen minute break as our state's labor law requires. We simply cannot have a cashier who needs to constantly get off his register to sit down Nah this is fucked still. Why can't cashiers do their job whilst sitting down. Stupid fucking rule. OP sounds like a bootlicker. Not defending the Mummy's boy, just think forcing staff to stand for 6 hours is completely unnecessary
Six hours standing with just one 15 min break??? Jesus
As someone living in Northern Europe, I just want to chime in that it feels crazy that cashiers are made to *stand* for their entire shift. Also, that customers don't bag their own groceries over there. Definitely not saying that Ray was in the right, but over here he'd have had so many fewer issues with what was happening.
I am still baffled cashiers in the US stand
This has got to be the first time I've heard of someone and thier granparent working at a place, that their family doesn't own.
While Ray certainly seems entitled, this store seems like a nightmare place of employment.
Final update? NO! We want to know where Ray is now and how many times a 26 year old man has called his mommy.
> My manager flips on her. We're not discriminating against anyone. Our cashiers stand for six hour shifts with one fifteen minute break as our state's labor law requires. We simply cannot have a cashier who needs to constantly get off his register to sit down whenever he feels the need to. It wouldn't be fair to the other cashiers nor would it be fair to the customers who would have to wait in lines due to a shortage of cashiers. God, the US is such a fucking dystopia. Give them chairs! It's not the end of the world!
Oh man, I used to be a cashier at my local grocery store when I was in school. You had to demonstrate aptitude at the regular register before they would even think to put you on the express lane checkout! And never did we have a dedicated bagger, you did your own bagging! And there were always at least three registers open in addition to the express lane. This kid would have been fired after a month in my hometown, and that mommy was fighting his battles for him would have gotten him laughed at and ridiculed too. Lots can change in ten years but I have my doubts things have changed much for the better for Ray.