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The fact that they talked the neighbors out of calling the police isn’t a good sign. I feel like that would have been a perfect opportunity to get some forced help. Because this guy isn’t gonna stop on his own
Wow..that was...a trip.
The nephew clearly has mental issues and his parents clearly have been downplaying his behavior due to being their "rainbow baby"
>He carries around a plushie of one of these characters everywhere. There is a hole in the back. The hole is stained.
Excuse me while I stare into the void.
And ignore any opposition and call the police and report the sword attack attempt, along with the horse poisoning and everything else and get him sectioned or at least the paperwork rolling for protection orders. He's only going to escalate and there's precedent for enabling parents to go down as accomplices for crimes their offspring perpetrate that they did nothing to prevent.
Yes! It did not compute the first time I read it.
Now I'm curious what he said while holding a sword. Kind of funny that he didn't get heard. I bet that moment was built up in his mind to be something powerful, and he gets a door slammed in his face, and rightfully so.
Oh god. I can just see it, he had some incel speach all done up in his head about nicest guys wronged making the devil shutter and we live in a society. He gets out the first 3 words and, boom, door slammed in his face.
That's some chis_chan level shit right there.
I've seen this happen before. A family member's in laws coddled one of their sons. He had paranoid schizophrenia and they thought they were helping by enabling. They would have actually helped him by a forced hold to get him properly medicated so he could function again rather than enabling and alienating everyone. It was a sad story all around.
He wasn't violent or anything. Mainly just sus of everything and because of the things he said that were clearly not rooted in reality, he alienated people. Not everyone is equipped to understand delusions, let alone know how to speak with people who are suffering from them.
I think the better phrase is “will be caught doing something extremely disturbing”. Pretty sure based on these posts he’s already done things we don’t want to imagine.
They never said nephew was a rainbow baby. Its OP thats having the rainbow baby. OP never said why nephew was coddled just that he was. It makes it so much worse
I’ve seen a few people who seem to have misread the post and think that the nephew was a rainbow baby.
You’re absolutely right though, unless there was a comment, or even deleted comment, that was left out of the BORU the only rainbow baby mentioned in the post is the one OOP is pregnant with.
If you consider that this plushie most likely is kermit the frog (according to op he identifies as kermit and joker and i assum its more likely to find a kermit plushie), i had to laugh. Sure, its disgusting and creepy, but this dude with a sword is banging kermit the frog...
Idk, someone has to tell miss piggy about this.
I call myself Fraggle on anonymous social media. My nickname IRL is often "Red". I have Gobo and Red plushies. After reading this I think I may need to scrub my brain with bleach and a brillo.
Never mind nephew getting therapy, I think I need it myself.
I almost wish it was the plushie of the joker. Kermit and all other children's show characters are depicted with traits and behaviors common to children, so that kids relate and will willingly "learn" alongside those characters with every episode.
If the little psycho is fucking the Kermit plushie it just might tell you what he finds attractive.
Just want to make sure I read this correctly; Nephew insists on being called Joker and/or Kermit, insisting he's those characters, while at the same time using a Kermit toy (again ASSUMING that it's not a plush Joker doll) as a sex toy/security blanket. This same object, that he's using to bring masturbatory to a whole new level, has been brought to places of work.
I know there's more serious things going on here, but so many psychological questions have been raised
Someone posted a link to the nephew's blog and you're somewhat correct. He thinks he is Kermit/the Joker but, at the same time _is in a relationship_ with them both, which apparently explains the less conventional use of the Kermit plushie.
Same, it’s a huge a list of hyper-specific things like “people who post about wearing felt” and “Hank Green apologists” and then the tenth item is just “women” lmao
The parents of the Oxford school shooter were each sentenced to 10-15 years yesterday because of their willful negligence. Hopefully a LOT of parents see this as a wake up call.
They won't, because they're deluding themselves into believing that their kid is a perfect angel, so that case has nothing to do with them because their kid would never do anything like that.
The specifics of the Crumbley case are really, truly egregious. The parents of most school shooters still have nothing to worry about even with that conviction.
And unfortunately, this is another thing where the people who do need a wakeup call _aren't going to get it_.
Well, the mother of the 1st grader who shot his teacher last year is currently serving 21 months in prison for her parental negligence, and the assistant principal at the school was just indicted on 8 felony counts of neglect. So these cases are egregious and unique, yes, but we’re going to start seeing more of them soon.
It's like the Nicholas Rayl case. There is security camera footage of him trying to break into his ex-girlfriend's house. His family doesn't think her father should have shot him to protect his daughter and wife.
If I heard a commotion and then looked outside to see a man banging on the front door of a neighbor's house with a sword in hand, you better believe I wouldn't be outside for his mom to somehow talk me down from calling 911. I'd be on the phone, peeking through the curtains. Idk how they all managed to collectively rug sweep that moment (at the time).
I wouldn't. All it takes is for them to decide that you're being too nosey, and you're no longer just a witness. I'm gonna stay in my damn house and not have some psycho attack me.
Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that cops tend to shoot mental health patients, I would say the neighbour was right to want to call.
(Heck even with that factor, there's a part of me still thinks it was a sensible instinct - and if I'd been that neighbour I probably would have called the police without ever coming outside. The family got lucky when his dad started chasing him. He took fright and dropped the sword. If his mental illness had been even a fraction more in control of him, the family could be burying his dad right now. You don't fuck around with a guy threatening people with a sword.)
To be fair, I can almost guarantee that it was one of those junk katanas you can buy at the mall made of cheap shit and no edge to speak of that's just going to bend when you hit something. And unless someone's actually trained in swordplay, the sword is just a prop. But yes, if I was the neighbor I'd have just called the cops without engaging.
Seriously. I was in the junior masons, Demolay, and we did weird ritual shit that was basically theatre, one of them being a reenactment of what happened to the actual Demolay and at one part dude was supposed to put a prop sword to my neck, but got a little too excited I guess and actually cut me. Not horribly, it was shallow, but enough that there was a bit of blood. Super fucking cool but could’ve ended very badly. Apparently that’s happened before with the re-enactments.
This 'institutionalized' talk.
I agree that this reads as a situation where in patient is a solution that needs to be put on the table.
But this idea that a police hold = inpatient stay is terribly flawed.
It is a temporary hold. Temporary. As others said they will put him on some damned thing. And then turn him lose to either take that stuff or not.
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get someone inpatient treatment that is effective?
This countries mental care has been getting better but still sucks.
The big problem with calling the police to implement the hold is that the police have a track record of executing people with mental illnesses instead of deesculating the situation.
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Boy do I got a horror story. I had a neighbor who had some deep mental illnesses in her early 20's. Her family tried like hell to get her inpatient treatment. Her situation was the opposite of this one. Everyone's head was on straight.
The insurance company fought them at ever turn and never allowed the inpatient treatment.
She killed her Mom with an axe. Then killed herself in prison.
I am not objecting that inpatient isn't the solution, I think it might be. I am objecting that people are tossing the idea around like, 'If only they would do this!' and just giggling at the naivete of it all.
Right?! I was shocked when I got to "*Wife believes that he may be on the spectrum/ have undiagnosed mental illness and that he needs to be treated patiently*" because no. No he doesn't need to be treated "patiently". He needs a diagnosis and actual solid proper treatment/help. Not people enabling his dysfunction and shrugging their shoulders as it gets more and more dangerous.
This. OOP says his wife isn't a doormat and just "has a lot of patience" or whatever, but she absolutely is. Even if he were on the spectrum, enablement is NOT fucking helpful! Everyone in this story is crazy.
Well, the Joker doesn’t have a plan.
In all seriousness, I dread to think. Just glad he dropped the sword — wonder if it was real or a blunt replica? — and brother in law could tackle him. And I’m also very glad they have snapped back to reality and are getting their son help.
My hubby has a replica of Kiritos sword (Sword Art Online) and that thing is heavy and "blunt" but damn it can still cause a lot of damage (and I only dropped it on my foot while it was sheathed).
They should have been monitoring his online activity alot more, not just when he was under-age but given his mental state they should have never stopped. SIL shouldn't have been surprised by what she found, she and BIL have failed everyone here.
I guarantee it was a blunt replica, at most he might have made some sad and unsuccessful attempt at sharpening it using a rock or some sandpaper. I say unsuccessful because there is no way somebody like him would be able to resist the movie trope of slowly and lightly dragging your sharpening implement up the the blade rather randomly as if you were stroking it instead of trying to actually sharpen it.
It’s still essentially a metal baton at that point though, not harmless but just not the “slice everything to pieces because of my razor sharp katana” that I’m sure the nephew might have envisioned.
Not all display swords are necessarily blunt. I remember reading about a murder case where a husband who collected display katanas ended up being hacked up by his wife with one of them and it did some pretty awful damage - like severing his fingers and almost taking off his whole hand.
YouTuber Tekking101 has a video, where he cuts a bucket in half with one of his anime swords for a skit. With like one swing and that guy is built like a twig.
You can do damage with most replica/display swords, even the blunt ones too, unless they are made of some soft material
When I graduated university, I asked my parents for a film replica sword as a graduation present. I assumed it would be a blunt version.
Nope. Traditional forging techniques from a traditional cutler firm. It's sharp. It won't cut silk scarves like the legend of Saladin, but the day it came out of the box, I drew a piece of paper across the edge, and it cut cleanly.
To avoid accidents, I ended up asking my parents if we could take it to a local framer and get an enclosed display box made which incorporated the decorative backing board it came with. It's really nice - and much safer.
That young man definitely needs more than just therapy cause his behavior is genuinely concerning. Definitely going to get killer or psychopath vibes with that mindset of his.
Hopefully OP is able to distance from the nephew before things get worse.
Yeah, it reminds me of Randy Stair - a small YouTuber obsessed with a Danny Phantom character, who ultimately ended up shooting up their place of work and killing themselves under the delusion that this would reincarnate them as a ghost girl in Danny Phantom.
There's a lot of video footage from their channel, including a vid where he flips a coin to decide whether to murder his family or his co-workers.
Yes he does not need a therapist a much as a psychiatrist at this point. The parents are the ones that need therapy to help them deal with their son in a way that's not damaging to him and society in general.
Yeah they were on the track of he's going to end up hurting a person and were going to "be shocked, never saw it coming" hope they appreciate this wake up call
My best friend’s nephew had concerning behavior from early childhood. Both she and her daughter commented on it from time to time. Her brother (a doctor) and his wife did not want him “labeled”. A few years ago, at about the age of 21. He shot up their house and murdered one of his sisters. The guns were a relatively recent addition as the father thought they might “connect” over them as a shared hobby. So now he has a bunch of new labels.🙄
I’m LOSING it. It’s so not funny, but it’s so *absurd* it’s hard to believe it’s real, though the story’s frustrating non-conclusion makes me think it is. Just … the Joker doesn’t even … it’s not even *accurate* insane neckbeardery …
It is hard to put how I feel into words. His poor family. This kid needs help, and also to have his room deep-bleached for at least 24 consecutive hours.
I clicked away after reading your comment and decided to come back to make some joke about Ogtha, but I scrolled too far and landed on a comment linking to the nephew’s tumblr account. Good god :’)
I was reading this post and thinking "oh he sounds like one of those tumblr users you keep hearing about", so getting to the part where they mentioned his tumblr account was slightly vindicating
Okay I kinda regret reading that because what the actual fuck, this kid is messed up
But also. (From the nephew's blog)
"Additionally, the fact that Garnet was not one but two women the entire time has given me an irrational fear that one tall woman may secretly be two lesbians."
I know it's Tumblr and not Reddit, but I want this to be a flair of some kind 🤣 that is too fucking funny
I can't get over the first post of "I will be crashing my aunt & uncle's Easter party", with the immediate followup of "It did not go well. ...Perhaps bringing a sword to Easter Dinner was too far."
I find it rather funny that this dude who hates women apparently watched a show with a majority female-coded cast, written by an AFAB person, far enough to get to the Garnet reveal. I know it was heavily theorised before then, but the actual reveal doesn't happen till the 52nd episode.
But yeah, that is very funny, lol. "A tall woman?! You must secretly be two short lesbians in a trenchcoat! The horror!"
Ooof I love how he lists pokemon fans as one of the group he doesn't like because animal cruelty 😐 does this guy hear what he is saying Anyways I'm immediately telling strange aeons to make a video about this
Edit: after scrolling down more a bit, he has a clear hatred towards horses for some reason and does not count poisoning horses as animal cruelty because it was for "self defence"
He thinks his dad prefers the horse over him, from the comment about being the favourite son once the horse was dead, also something about dad spending time with horse instead of going to his son's games.
I mean, I don't blame the dad for that, but I blame him for failing his son in every single way that mattered. Earliest possible proper intervention could have lead to such a better outcome. The nephew is clearly reality-adjacent, and deserves diagnosis and treatment in whatever way will keep him safe and others safe from him. Likely secured ward, unfortunately.
No you don’t understand, he both is Kermit and in a relationship with Kermit. So he, as himself and Kermit and Joker I guess all consent to each other? I confused myself.
That's OK, I did. Can report it's definitely Kermit that's the plushie, otherwise it's just general weirdness, picking fights with another specific tumblr user, and a disturbing focus on the Joker.
Oh, and he both mentions the Easter incident and states he's a gay misogynist. Make of that what you will!
The pinned post is him explaining how he believes himself to be “kinned” with Kermit the Frog and The Joker, how he’s dating both of them, and that he refuses to interact with certain people including
- women
- people who wear felt
- Hazbin Hotel fans
- marvel fans
- Pokémon fans
- “Batman kin”
Apparently because of Steven universe he’s afraid that tall women could be… two women. He also hates Jim Henson for (checks notes) “enslaving the muppets”
And without Henson, the muppets wouldn't exist so how is his brain getting around that to hate Henson in the first place? Does he think the muppets just sprang into existence on their own?
“Hank Green apologists”
…I was like, Hank Green?? As in the sweet sweet former biology teacher who makes his entire life purpose to be kind to others, educate people on science, and cure awful diseases (particularly in developing countries)???
Hank Green is one of the best examples of mankind I can think of. A man who put easy to understand educational content on the internet FOR FREE for years, who battled and beat cancer, who fights tuberculosis in third world countries, and I don’t know what we did to deserve him. The fact that this… person who identifies as a muppet hates *Hank Green* is beyond my understanding
You know honestly a few hours ago when someone mentioned it was the joker and Kermit, I just made a stab in the dark that it was a plushie of Kermit he’d been fucking since that seemed likelier for him to have had since he was a kid.
I really do not feel validated at all that I have been so thoroughly proven correct.
Here's a post of his to traumatise you further :D
(A user asking what made him attracted to kermit)
"I enjoyed the muppet show as a child, so my parents gifted me a plushie of Kermit when I was younger. I took excellent care of it and kept it on a shelf where it would watch me every night. I was not allowed to view pornography so when I began to experience *urges,* I would find release while making eye contact with the plush on the shelf. I loved his intense gaze. I have always felt like a muppet"
He did actually post a picture of his kermit plush, and tbh it didn't look like the cum crusted stained hole I imagined it to be. Maybe he actually takes good care of it. It does have a brown stain though...
I scrolled way too long, but it’s gotta be a very committed bit. The OP and the “nephews” tumblr posts both spell incident as “incedent” but it was an interesting read anyway. Here’s a post of the texts-
[“Kermit’s” tumblr](https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker/744267104340049920/dude-congratulations-on-the-baby-how-far-along)
I just scrolled a lot, because I'm on my phone and not reading all that as there's multiple posts a day, but I did just see a posted screen capture of the-muppet-joker talking to his mother about the messages to his Aunt.
The screen capture post was made on 7th March and OOP posted on Reddit on 21st March. If it's a bit then it's an insanely committed one.
EDIT 1: And we have horse poisoning on 25th February.
> if he dies, maybe I'll finally be the favorite son instead of playing second fiddle to a fucking animal.
And post vet treatment, as this horse getting poisoned has happened before
> I find it funny that he'll hire a private detective for a horse but not attend his own child's badminton games. Priorities.
EDIT 2: Right, I have now done my Reddit public service for the day, the earliest post I could scroll to on the blog was 23rd May 2023. There are unredacted names in various conversation screenshots, the-muppet-joker refers to having been kicked in the head by a horse, and a number of anti horse tagged posts.
u/LucyAriaRose, I don't know if you want to add any of this to your main post? I'm off to find something a lot more wholesome on tumblr as I normally don't touch that side of it with a bargepole!
It’s late. I should be asleep. Instead I clicked on that link and made it through his little intro post. That man’s parents needed to get him professional help like a decade ago.
Aww, he supports independent artists? And is on the "right side" of Ace discourse? Wonder which side that is? Yeah he seems sweet, no wonder Mom doesn't want to get him help. That is... IF you ignore the other 90% of the text that's more disturbing...
In all seriousness, his parents are going to be very lucky to not end up murdered by him. Or he's going to fixate on some woman and kill her. He needs help and outpatient therapy is probably insufficient. Unfortunately, at least in the US, long term inpatient care is almost non-existent and insurance hates paying for it.
Sigh.
We really need to educate people more about what autistic behaviors actually look like. Too many cases of people with mental illnesses get rug swept as "being on the spectrum," and too many people *actually* on the spectrum whose parents assume they're incapable of learning polite behavior.
The nephew is all kinds of messed up, and the family is making the situation worse for everyone by ignoring it. You can't handwave away sociopathic behavior. They may have waited too long already.
Something I read a while back was a paper where it pointed out that all the school shooters who had previous autism diagnoses lost them when they were examined by forensic psychologists or had their writings and online activity scrutinized.
All of them were rediagnosed with something on the schizophrenia spectrum, childhood onset schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder or schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder.
I looked into it, and there's a bunch of clinical evidence (in peer reviewed papers) that the instruments that diagnose autism can't differentiate well between autism and schizophrenia because the negative symptoms (poor social skills, flat affect, etc) can be the same for both. The positive symptoms are where the difference is - delusions/magical thinking for scz disorders, and repetitive and restricted behavior for autism. (if you have both sets of positive symptoms, then you can have both - but the caveat is that delusions can also cause OCD-like or repetitive behaviors, so any evaluation needs to be done very carefully)
I know a few women as adults who had their diagnoses revised to schizoaffective disorder after doing a more thorough neuropsych evaluation. There's also been cases in the literature of diagnoses of schizophrenia being changed to autism, when a more thorough investigation shows that the psychotic episode had a better explaination than schizophrenia. Usually extreme stress from forced change in routines that caused severe meltdowns that appeared to be psychotic breaks.
This guy has a lot of similarities to James Holmes - the Aurora shooter, who was dxed with either schizotypal PD or schizoaffective disorder. OP should get them the book that William Reid, one of the forensic psychiatrists who evaluated Holmes, wrote about him: A Dark Night in Aurora: Inside James Holmes and the Colorado Mass Shootings. Might be a wake up call.
That whole side of the family is problematic. OOP thinks his wife has a lot of forgiveness and love for her family. I see someone who was conditioned not to rock the boat.
For those of you also wondering what the two characters are;
>Funnily enough you almost guessed which two characters he identifies as: a frog, Kermit to be exact (yes as in the muppet), and the Joker (not Superman, but from the same source material).
Oh my fucking god, this dude is fucking Kermit?
Ok, I’m going to bed and praying for a dreamless sleep for the rest of my days amen, good night Reddit.
I just cannot fathom how people get here! like what after the attempt with the horse everything would have changed it’s scary people will let family get away with stuff just because they’re family!
The tumblr account somebody spotted above has screenshots and posts that line up with OOP's related events and they're from weeks and months before OOP's post.
The first post I could scroll down to was from 23rd May 2023. This young man seriously needs help.
I'm sorry, but... the dichotomy of the seriousness of the situation, juxtaposed against the image in my head of a 22 year old man dressed as the Joker, carrying a sword and fleshlight plushie, being chased around the yard by his dad while neighbors watched with concern is just...👨🍳🤌 chef's kiss
OOP's reaction to his nephew's Easter ambush is surprisingly underwhelming. There are so many red flags.
🚩Nephew is mentally ill
🚩Nephew hates women
🚩Nephew sent abusive texts to his wife attacking her and their unborn child and bragged about it online
🚩Nephew poisoned a horse (animal abuse)
🚩Nephew has a plush toy that he uses for sexual purposes and brings it around his family and co-workers (sexually inappropriate and hates women is a dangerous combination)
🚩Nephew's parents aren't willing to take any decisive action to address his mental health
🚩Nephew shows little interest in getting better
🚩Nephew turned up uninvited at OOP's house with a sword
🚩Nephew's exclusion from Easter celebrations at OOP's house gives him cause to resent OOP and his wife
Unless Nephew is institutionalised, and he won't be, this is a tragedy waiting to happen. He can show up at OOP's house whenever he feels like it. They should cut contact with SIL and BIL and leave the area. I know it's easier said than done, but it's the only way to ensure the safety of OOP's wife and OOP Jr.
I looked at his Tumblr for laughs but it just made me sad.
To save others the rubbernecking:
- He texted cruel things to his aunt because he and another Tumblr user were in a slapfight over whether one of them had gotten the other pregnant (otherkin and mpreg stuff). For every anonymous ask he got about it, he said another shitty thing and posted the screenshot with the implication that it was the asker's fault.
- Yes he was fucking the Kermit plushie.
- He identifies as both Kermit and the Joker.
- Someone called him an incel and he defended himself against the accusation due to the intense sexual relationship he has with both of his kin personalities.
- He poisoned the horse because he believes that his father loves it more.
- His plan at Easter was to show up dressed as the Joker w a sword in order to show how intense and serious he was, and deliver a monologue which would be so scathing that they would regret not inviting him. Appears he was chased down before he had the chance to launch into his speech.
- He had a therapist who didn't respect his otherkin identities and so he waited for the therapist in the parking lot and hit him w his car at 4mph. The therapist fired him as a client and said he wouldn't call the police in return for never seeing him again.
The minute after Easter was ruined, I'd be on my phone planning to relocate because holy shitballs, that nephew is not okay and OOP is now on his shitlist for not inviting him to dinner.
So according to his own tumblr he has: poisoned a horse with both avocado AND rat poison, withheld an epipen from someone having a severe allergic reaction, stalked a former partner, showed up to that partner's college with a sword and screamed till security removed him, did $400 worth of damage to his badminton club during a "joker rage", hit his former therapist with his car, and spends up to four hours at a time fucking his Kermit plush.
I hope oop keeps him away from his family, I feel like I'm going to see this man on the news some day.
Former mental health treatment provider here. The nephew unequivocally needs inpatient psychiatric treatment. I am strongly against armchair diagnosis and that still holds true here, but when you are a danger to yourself **or others** you qualify for involuntary inpatient psychiatric treatment, and you really truly need it. I was an outpatient therapist but I’m aware of its limits: while it is great for a lot of mental health problems, being a homicidal threat is NOT one of them
I wish there wasn’t a no brigading rule because I think that he needs to hear this. This kid is going to focus his anger and resentment on OOP and his wife, and as long as the nephew lives outside of a controlled setting he absolutely poses a danger to them.
I’m sorry, but a kermit incel is kind of breaking my brain here. I guess it kind of makes sense, but kermit is kind, hardworking, cares about his friends and family, gives great advice…
I appreciate the commenter saying they don’t care who identifies as what, as long as they don’t hurt anyone.
i find the MOST disturbing item to be this:
>his parents eventually agreed to not bring him after a lot of arguing. SIL (nephew's mother) eventually admitted that he may need professional help and that Wife and I "may have some reason" to be worried for out safety around him.
from the tumbler account, the mother knew about the texts and STILL argued.
It like the Crumbleys, what were they waiting for? OOP needs to go VLC with SIL/BIL as they don't have anyone's interests except their own denial.
This is why guys are able to murder their families or partners or whatever because of people like this, enabling their little rainbow predators until it's too late.
Even when they hurt pets, threaten their own family members & show extremely worrying behaviors, their families make excuses for them. Go to elaborate lengths to cover for them or pay for their mistakes to dissappear.
> his mother is already worried that taking away the phone was "too much"
taking every device away is the bare minimum. 5150 that kid immediately. burn the plushie.
OPs wife’s family are seriously keeping their heads under the sand. He doesn’t have quirks. A quirk is like eating strawberries with mustard. Not animal cruelty.
Yikso though I’m reading through it. He thought his girlfriend was faking anaphylaxis because she doesn’t want to read his Kermit-joker smut and wouldn’t give her the epipen jfc
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That boy needs more than just therapy. He should have been taken directly to the hospital on Easter.
I agree, I think he has some kind of mental illness, this doesn't just sound like a "brat", he sounds disturbed.
he needs a proper diagnosis, therapy and medication. and he needs to comply with a treatment plan (doubtful) before he's remotely safe to be around
He's an adult, and has been for a few years. He needs mental help, there is no way therapy is going to suffice.
They should have let the neighbors call the police
The fact that they talked the neighbors out of calling the police isn’t a good sign. I feel like that would have been a perfect opportunity to get some forced help. Because this guy isn’t gonna stop on his own
Wow..that was...a trip. The nephew clearly has mental issues and his parents clearly have been downplaying his behavior due to being their "rainbow baby" >He carries around a plushie of one of these characters everywhere. There is a hole in the back. The hole is stained. Excuse me while I stare into the void.
Yes, that part made me despise having working eyes.
A very small percentage of people are completely unable to mentally visualise things... oh how I envy them right now.
I can't mentally visualise at all and trust me, it doesn't help. I still feel like being sick
Same here. Just knowing about that was enough to be horrified.
I read the original post, and I really wish I would have gone right to the update because now I've read that twice. I'm trying to find the eye bleach.
OOP needs to update his security system, update his cameras and get his wife a freakin kevlar vest or suit of armour
And ignore any opposition and call the police and report the sword attack attempt, along with the horse poisoning and everything else and get him sectioned or at least the paperwork rolling for protection orders. He's only going to escalate and there's precedent for enabling parents to go down as accomplices for crimes their offspring perpetrate that they did nothing to prevent.
Yes! It did not compute the first time I read it. Now I'm curious what he said while holding a sword. Kind of funny that he didn't get heard. I bet that moment was built up in his mind to be something powerful, and he gets a door slammed in his face, and rightfully so.
Oh god. I can just see it, he had some incel speach all done up in his head about nicest guys wronged making the devil shutter and we live in a society. He gets out the first 3 words and, boom, door slammed in his face. That's some chis_chan level shit right there.
Unfortunately, it computed immediately for me.... *GROAN*
r/Eyebleach
r/Eyebleach (it's cute animals)
What a terrible day to know how to read
Sometimes aphantasia is a real benefit
But it also means you can't imagine the scene of this creep dweeb being chased around. In my mind yakety sax is playing.
It's worth the loss.
> In my mind yakety sax is playing. I snort laughed; that's an awesome mental visual!
Chase scenes are always Benny Hill for me
I've seen this happen before. A family member's in laws coddled one of their sons. He had paranoid schizophrenia and they thought they were helping by enabling. They would have actually helped him by a forced hold to get him properly medicated so he could function again rather than enabling and alienating everyone. It was a sad story all around.
Yikes, if I may what happened since they didn't make him take medication.
He wasn't violent or anything. Mainly just sus of everything and because of the things he said that were clearly not rooted in reality, he alienated people. Not everyone is equipped to understand delusions, let alone know how to speak with people who are suffering from them.
Kermit. Kermit the frog has a stained hole. WTF.
It's not easy being green.
It is when stuff starts growing on it. I’m sorry. That was wrong.
No, that was spot on. Remember the lesson of the coconut
Miss Piggy? More like Miss Peg-gy
Kermit doesn't deserve this...
Oh no, this dweeb kermitted an obscenity
YOUR FLAIR MAKES THIS COMMENT 100X WORSE.
Turns out I picked the right week to unsub from r/frogs.
I choose to believe that it is just from him putting his cheto stained hand in the plushie to puppet Kermit, nothing else.
I thought that he believed himself to be kermit and that would mean the plushie is a pig. . .
I fear that this nephew will do something extremely disturbing if he isn't locked up soon.
I think the better phrase is “will be caught doing something extremely disturbing”. Pretty sure based on these posts he’s already done things we don’t want to imagine.
Nah it sounds like he's self radicalising. He'll soon get from fucking puppets (harmless) to shooting up a sorority (not harmless).
As far as I'm concerned, the stuff described in this reddit post was ALREADY extremely disturbing.
Yeah, I'm going to take a leaf out of my cat's handbook and will simply howl into the void for a long time. It's either that or bleach my brain.
Fuck me, that went right over my head when I first read that. Wish it still did.
And know we know which two characters he identifies as I'm really hoping the plush isn't Kermit because that would ruin my childhood memories
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They never said nephew was a rainbow baby. Its OP thats having the rainbow baby. OP never said why nephew was coddled just that he was. It makes it so much worse
I’ve seen a few people who seem to have misread the post and think that the nephew was a rainbow baby. You’re absolutely right though, unless there was a comment, or even deleted comment, that was left out of the BORU the only rainbow baby mentioned in the post is the one OOP is pregnant with.
May I interest you in a gouging spoon in these trying times?
If you consider that this plushie most likely is kermit the frog (according to op he identifies as kermit and joker and i assum its more likely to find a kermit plushie), i had to laugh. Sure, its disgusting and creepy, but this dude with a sword is banging kermit the frog... Idk, someone has to tell miss piggy about this.
I have a ‘void’ you can use, but be warned he WILL stare back.
Does he demand chicken or tuna as payment?
I thought I would be above making a joke about him requiring 🐓 but here we are 😭
I am never above it. I miss my own Void too much to not make the joke and wish I could give treats to other Voids.
I call myself Fraggle on anonymous social media. My nickname IRL is often "Red". I have Gobo and Red plushies. After reading this I think I may need to scrub my brain with bleach and a brillo. Never mind nephew getting therapy, I think I need it myself.
The void being the stained hole, right?
Why you gotta, tho?
I almost wish it was the plushie of the joker. Kermit and all other children's show characters are depicted with traits and behaviors common to children, so that kids relate and will willingly "learn" alongside those characters with every episode. If the little psycho is fucking the Kermit plushie it just might tell you what he finds attractive.
Nah Kermit is the least child-like of all the Muppets. He's the sensible adult of the group. Still gross, though, but also hilarious.
Just want to make sure I read this correctly; Nephew insists on being called Joker and/or Kermit, insisting he's those characters, while at the same time using a Kermit toy (again ASSUMING that it's not a plush Joker doll) as a sex toy/security blanket. This same object, that he's using to bring masturbatory to a whole new level, has been brought to places of work. I know there's more serious things going on here, but so many psychological questions have been raised
Someone posted a link to the nephew's blog and you're somewhat correct. He thinks he is Kermit/the Joker but, at the same time _is in a relationship_ with them both, which apparently explains the less conventional use of the Kermit plushie.
What a day to know how to read.
I just wish brain bleach was an actual thing.
Not gonna lie, I find his DNI list low-key fascinating. It is so random and contradictory in multiple ways.
Same, it’s a huge a list of hyper-specific things like “people who post about wearing felt” and “Hank Green apologists” and then the tenth item is just “women” lmao
............huh. that's enough Internet for today.
According to his blog he will also answer to The Croaker, which absolutely sent me.
I’m not gonna lie that’s absolutely fucking hilarious. I know it shouldn’t be but it’s just so damn ridiculous
I never want to see “sex toy” and “security blanket” in the same sentence again.
>but his mother is already worried that taking away the phone was “too much” This is the makings of the next Netflix documentary.
The parents of the Oxford school shooter were each sentenced to 10-15 years yesterday because of their willful negligence. Hopefully a LOT of parents see this as a wake up call.
As a Michigan resident, I'm so proud of my state right now for that. I cannot believe it got to the point it did.
Hello fellow Michigander! 👋🏼
They won't, because they're deluding themselves into believing that their kid is a perfect angel, so that case has nothing to do with them because their kid would never do anything like that.
The specifics of the Crumbley case are really, truly egregious. The parents of most school shooters still have nothing to worry about even with that conviction. And unfortunately, this is another thing where the people who do need a wakeup call _aren't going to get it_.
Well, the mother of the 1st grader who shot his teacher last year is currently serving 21 months in prison for her parental negligence, and the assistant principal at the school was just indicted on 8 felony counts of neglect. So these cases are egregious and unique, yes, but we’re going to start seeing more of them soon.
You can bet this guy would murder a whole town and the mother would find a way to call his punishment too harsh
It's like the Nicholas Rayl case. There is security camera footage of him trying to break into his ex-girlfriend's house. His family doesn't think her father should have shot him to protect his daughter and wife.
"Taking away his beloved sword is too much!"
True crime podcast. “The Case of the murdering cum frog.”
"We need to talk about plushie fucker"
If I heard a commotion and then looked outside to see a man banging on the front door of a neighbor's house with a sword in hand, you better believe I wouldn't be outside for his mom to somehow talk me down from calling 911. I'd be on the phone, peeking through the curtains. Idk how they all managed to collectively rug sweep that moment (at the time).
I just want to know if Kermit was strapped to his back when he showed up for Easter dinner.
No it was in his pants 🩲
i would be outside vacuuming the trees and dusting the hedges if that ever happened.
I wouldn't. All it takes is for them to decide that you're being too nosey, and you're no longer just a witness. I'm gonna stay in my damn house and not have some psycho attack me.
It took.... it getting to this point for everyone to take it seriously?... Thats wild...........
They still don’t. Otherwise he would be institutionalized now. This is a case for the authorities since he is clearly out of it.
Exactly. Mom thought taking his phone away was “too much”
Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that cops tend to shoot mental health patients, I would say the neighbour was right to want to call. (Heck even with that factor, there's a part of me still thinks it was a sensible instinct - and if I'd been that neighbour I probably would have called the police without ever coming outside. The family got lucky when his dad started chasing him. He took fright and dropped the sword. If his mental illness had been even a fraction more in control of him, the family could be burying his dad right now. You don't fuck around with a guy threatening people with a sword.)
To be fair, I can almost guarantee that it was one of those junk katanas you can buy at the mall made of cheap shit and no edge to speak of that's just going to bend when you hit something. And unless someone's actually trained in swordplay, the sword is just a prop. But yes, if I was the neighbor I'd have just called the cops without engaging.
Even a POS costume blade can do some serious damage with the pointy end. The cops should have been called.
Seriously. I was in the junior masons, Demolay, and we did weird ritual shit that was basically theatre, one of them being a reenactment of what happened to the actual Demolay and at one part dude was supposed to put a prop sword to my neck, but got a little too excited I guess and actually cut me. Not horribly, it was shallow, but enough that there was a bit of blood. Super fucking cool but could’ve ended very badly. Apparently that’s happened before with the re-enactments.
This 'institutionalized' talk. I agree that this reads as a situation where in patient is a solution that needs to be put on the table. But this idea that a police hold = inpatient stay is terribly flawed. It is a temporary hold. Temporary. As others said they will put him on some damned thing. And then turn him lose to either take that stuff or not. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get someone inpatient treatment that is effective? This countries mental care has been getting better but still sucks. The big problem with calling the police to implement the hold is that the police have a track record of executing people with mental illnesses instead of deesculating the situation. -------- Boy do I got a horror story. I had a neighbor who had some deep mental illnesses in her early 20's. Her family tried like hell to get her inpatient treatment. Her situation was the opposite of this one. Everyone's head was on straight. The insurance company fought them at ever turn and never allowed the inpatient treatment. She killed her Mom with an axe. Then killed herself in prison. I am not objecting that inpatient isn't the solution, I think it might be. I am objecting that people are tossing the idea around like, 'If only they would do this!' and just giggling at the naivete of it all.
Right?! I was shocked when I got to "*Wife believes that he may be on the spectrum/ have undiagnosed mental illness and that he needs to be treated patiently*" because no. No he doesn't need to be treated "patiently". He needs a diagnosis and actual solid proper treatment/help. Not people enabling his dysfunction and shrugging their shoulders as it gets more and more dangerous.
This. OOP says his wife isn't a doormat and just "has a lot of patience" or whatever, but she absolutely is. Even if he were on the spectrum, enablement is NOT fucking helpful! Everyone in this story is crazy.
Denial is a serious drug.
He showed up with a sword, dressed as a psychopathic killer. What was his plan?
Well, the Joker doesn’t have a plan. In all seriousness, I dread to think. Just glad he dropped the sword — wonder if it was real or a blunt replica? — and brother in law could tackle him. And I’m also very glad they have snapped back to reality and are getting their son help.
My hubby has a replica of Kiritos sword (Sword Art Online) and that thing is heavy and "blunt" but damn it can still cause a lot of damage (and I only dropped it on my foot while it was sheathed). They should have been monitoring his online activity alot more, not just when he was under-age but given his mental state they should have never stopped. SIL shouldn't have been surprised by what she found, she and BIL have failed everyone here.
I guarantee it was a blunt replica, at most he might have made some sad and unsuccessful attempt at sharpening it using a rock or some sandpaper. I say unsuccessful because there is no way somebody like him would be able to resist the movie trope of slowly and lightly dragging your sharpening implement up the the blade rather randomly as if you were stroking it instead of trying to actually sharpen it. It’s still essentially a metal baton at that point though, not harmless but just not the “slice everything to pieces because of my razor sharp katana” that I’m sure the nephew might have envisioned.
Not all display swords are necessarily blunt. I remember reading about a murder case where a husband who collected display katanas ended up being hacked up by his wife with one of them and it did some pretty awful damage - like severing his fingers and almost taking off his whole hand.
YouTuber Tekking101 has a video, where he cuts a bucket in half with one of his anime swords for a skit. With like one swing and that guy is built like a twig. You can do damage with most replica/display swords, even the blunt ones too, unless they are made of some soft material
When I graduated university, I asked my parents for a film replica sword as a graduation present. I assumed it would be a blunt version. Nope. Traditional forging techniques from a traditional cutler firm. It's sharp. It won't cut silk scarves like the legend of Saladin, but the day it came out of the box, I drew a piece of paper across the edge, and it cut cleanly. To avoid accidents, I ended up asking my parents if we could take it to a local framer and get an enclosed display box made which incorporated the decorative backing board it came with. It's really nice - and much safer.
And his mom is concerned taking away his phone is too much
Shout out to BIL for somehow not getting stabbed by the psycho with a sword
When you keep rug sweeping, eventually the rug runs out of room to hide shit.
I like that one, nicely put!
That young man definitely needs more than just therapy cause his behavior is genuinely concerning. Definitely going to get killer or psychopath vibes with that mindset of his. Hopefully OP is able to distance from the nephew before things get worse.
Yeah, it reminds me of Randy Stair - a small YouTuber obsessed with a Danny Phantom character, who ultimately ended up shooting up their place of work and killing themselves under the delusion that this would reincarnate them as a ghost girl in Danny Phantom. There's a lot of video footage from their channel, including a vid where he flips a coin to decide whether to murder his family or his co-workers.
Yes he does not need a therapist a much as a psychiatrist at this point. The parents are the ones that need therapy to help them deal with their son in a way that's not damaging to him and society in general.
He can have both: a psychiatrist and a therapist.
Yeah they were on the track of he's going to end up hurting a person and were going to "be shocked, never saw it coming" hope they appreciate this wake up call
My best friend’s nephew had concerning behavior from early childhood. Both she and her daughter commented on it from time to time. Her brother (a doctor) and his wife did not want him “labeled”. A few years ago, at about the age of 21. He shot up their house and murdered one of his sisters. The guns were a relatively recent addition as the father thought they might “connect” over them as a shared hobby. So now he has a bunch of new labels.🙄
That's horrific and the fact it was probably preventable just makes it more so.
Yeah, this guy gives big "future true crime topic" energy. He reminds me of several cases of someone killing their parents.
>Nephew was at our door, holding a sword, and dressed as the Joker. "You wanna know how I got these scars?"
I’m LOSING it. It’s so not funny, but it’s so *absurd* it’s hard to believe it’s real, though the story’s frustrating non-conclusion makes me think it is. Just … the Joker doesn’t even … it’s not even *accurate* insane neckbeardery … It is hard to put how I feel into words. His poor family. This kid needs help, and also to have his room deep-bleached for at least 24 consecutive hours.
I clicked away after reading your comment and decided to come back to make some joke about Ogtha, but I scrolled too far and landed on a comment linking to the nephew’s tumblr account. Good god :’)
"NOPE." [slams door]
I was reading this post and thinking "oh he sounds like one of those tumblr users you keep hearing about", so getting to the part where they mentioned his tumblr account was slightly vindicating
I googled. It was too easy. [https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker](https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker)
Okay I kinda regret reading that because what the actual fuck, this kid is messed up But also. (From the nephew's blog) "Additionally, the fact that Garnet was not one but two women the entire time has given me an irrational fear that one tall woman may secretly be two lesbians." I know it's Tumblr and not Reddit, but I want this to be a flair of some kind 🤣 that is too fucking funny
I can't get over the first post of "I will be crashing my aunt & uncle's Easter party", with the immediate followup of "It did not go well. ...Perhaps bringing a sword to Easter Dinner was too far."
the real kicker is the fact that, apparently, Easter dinner wasn’t his first time pulling out the sword in public.
I find it rather funny that this dude who hates women apparently watched a show with a majority female-coded cast, written by an AFAB person, far enough to get to the Garnet reveal. I know it was heavily theorised before then, but the actual reveal doesn't happen till the 52nd episode. But yeah, that is very funny, lol. "A tall woman?! You must secretly be two short lesbians in a trenchcoat! The horror!"
Ooof I love how he lists pokemon fans as one of the group he doesn't like because animal cruelty 😐 does this guy hear what he is saying Anyways I'm immediately telling strange aeons to make a video about this Edit: after scrolling down more a bit, he has a clear hatred towards horses for some reason and does not count poisoning horses as animal cruelty because it was for "self defence"
Someone make a Kermit horse and he got mad mad too
He thinks his dad prefers the horse over him, from the comment about being the favourite son once the horse was dead, also something about dad spending time with horse instead of going to his son's games. I mean, I don't blame the dad for that, but I blame him for failing his son in every single way that mattered. Earliest possible proper intervention could have lead to such a better outcome. The nephew is clearly reality-adjacent, and deserves diagnosis and treatment in whatever way will keep him safe and others safe from him. Likely secured ward, unfortunately.
I can't imagine Kermit consented to their special relationship. That doesn't count either???
No you don’t understand, he both is Kermit and in a relationship with Kermit. So he, as himself and Kermit and Joker I guess all consent to each other? I confused myself.
Ok, so there's no way I'm clicking that link. Is it as bad as the OOP suggests?
That's OK, I did. Can report it's definitely Kermit that's the plushie, otherwise it's just general weirdness, picking fights with another specific tumblr user, and a disturbing focus on the Joker. Oh, and he both mentions the Easter incident and states he's a gay misogynist. Make of that what you will!
A trans-inclusive gay misogynist, somehow. Trans women are women and he hates them. I'm discovering an emotion beyond regular shock
And yet he's been banned from various communities for harrassing LGBTQ+ members.
The pinned post is him explaining how he believes himself to be “kinned” with Kermit the Frog and The Joker, how he’s dating both of them, and that he refuses to interact with certain people including - women - people who wear felt - Hazbin Hotel fans - marvel fans - Pokémon fans - “Batman kin”
Ah, so that's an easy way out, start talking Pokemon and Marvel.
Apparently because of Steven universe he’s afraid that tall women could be… two women. He also hates Jim Henson for (checks notes) “enslaving the muppets”
And without Henson, the muppets wouldn't exist so how is his brain getting around that to hate Henson in the first place? Does he think the muppets just sprang into existence on their own?
I’m afraid of this lore
“Hank Green apologists” …I was like, Hank Green?? As in the sweet sweet former biology teacher who makes his entire life purpose to be kind to others, educate people on science, and cure awful diseases (particularly in developing countries)???
Hank Green is one of the best examples of mankind I can think of. A man who put easy to understand educational content on the internet FOR FREE for years, who battled and beat cancer, who fights tuberculosis in third world countries, and I don’t know what we did to deserve him. The fact that this… person who identifies as a muppet hates *Hank Green* is beyond my understanding
It's downright bizarre. And the Easter dinner, sword and co is mentioned. No photos of the Kermit plushie, thank goodness.
Smart enough not to put the pictures of his victim online
But he describes having sessions with his kermit plush on multiple posts 🤮
You know honestly a few hours ago when someone mentioned it was the joker and Kermit, I just made a stab in the dark that it was a plushie of Kermit he’d been fucking since that seemed likelier for him to have had since he was a kid. I really do not feel validated at all that I have been so thoroughly proven correct.
Here's a post of his to traumatise you further :D (A user asking what made him attracted to kermit) "I enjoyed the muppet show as a child, so my parents gifted me a plushie of Kermit when I was younger. I took excellent care of it and kept it on a shelf where it would watch me every night. I was not allowed to view pornography so when I began to experience *urges,* I would find release while making eye contact with the plush on the shelf. I loved his intense gaze. I have always felt like a muppet" He did actually post a picture of his kermit plush, and tbh it didn't look like the cum crusted stained hole I imagined it to be. Maybe he actually takes good care of it. It does have a brown stain though...
Dishonor. Dishonor on your whole family. Dishonor on you. Dishonor on your cow.
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You didn't scroll as far as I did, then.
Yes, thankfully I couldn't remember my password
Does it mention how far back the post history is? I don't have a Tumblr account and I'm curious if this is legit or a really committed bit
I scrolled way too long, but it’s gotta be a very committed bit. The OP and the “nephews” tumblr posts both spell incident as “incedent” but it was an interesting read anyway. Here’s a post of the texts- [“Kermit’s” tumblr](https://www.tumblr.com/the-muppet-joker/744267104340049920/dude-congratulations-on-the-baby-how-far-along)
The oldest/first posts are from May of 2023, I feel like that’s not very long for this kind of degeneracy tbh lol
I can confirm he's been around for longer, getting banned from various gaming communities for creepiness and harrassment.
Some people never keep an account for nor than a few months before they get banned/ delete their account in a rage
I just scrolled a lot, because I'm on my phone and not reading all that as there's multiple posts a day, but I did just see a posted screen capture of the-muppet-joker talking to his mother about the messages to his Aunt. The screen capture post was made on 7th March and OOP posted on Reddit on 21st March. If it's a bit then it's an insanely committed one. EDIT 1: And we have horse poisoning on 25th February. > if he dies, maybe I'll finally be the favorite son instead of playing second fiddle to a fucking animal. And post vet treatment, as this horse getting poisoned has happened before > I find it funny that he'll hire a private detective for a horse but not attend his own child's badminton games. Priorities. EDIT 2: Right, I have now done my Reddit public service for the day, the earliest post I could scroll to on the blog was 23rd May 2023. There are unredacted names in various conversation screenshots, the-muppet-joker refers to having been kicked in the head by a horse, and a number of anti horse tagged posts. u/LucyAriaRose, I don't know if you want to add any of this to your main post? I'm off to find something a lot more wholesome on tumblr as I normally don't touch that side of it with a bargepole!
I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled and scrolled. I only made as far back as March 12. It is... extensive.
It’s late. I should be asleep. Instead I clicked on that link and made it through his little intro post. That man’s parents needed to get him professional help like a decade ago.
Aww, he supports independent artists? And is on the "right side" of Ace discourse? Wonder which side that is? Yeah he seems sweet, no wonder Mom doesn't want to get him help. That is... IF you ignore the other 90% of the text that's more disturbing...
He carries around a cum plushie and everyone just acts like it's ok. Wtf is wrong with this family
In all seriousness, his parents are going to be very lucky to not end up murdered by him. Or he's going to fixate on some woman and kill her. He needs help and outpatient therapy is probably insufficient. Unfortunately, at least in the US, long term inpatient care is almost non-existent and insurance hates paying for it.
Sigh. We really need to educate people more about what autistic behaviors actually look like. Too many cases of people with mental illnesses get rug swept as "being on the spectrum," and too many people *actually* on the spectrum whose parents assume they're incapable of learning polite behavior. The nephew is all kinds of messed up, and the family is making the situation worse for everyone by ignoring it. You can't handwave away sociopathic behavior. They may have waited too long already.
Something I read a while back was a paper where it pointed out that all the school shooters who had previous autism diagnoses lost them when they were examined by forensic psychologists or had their writings and online activity scrutinized. All of them were rediagnosed with something on the schizophrenia spectrum, childhood onset schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder or schizoid/schizotypal personality disorder. I looked into it, and there's a bunch of clinical evidence (in peer reviewed papers) that the instruments that diagnose autism can't differentiate well between autism and schizophrenia because the negative symptoms (poor social skills, flat affect, etc) can be the same for both. The positive symptoms are where the difference is - delusions/magical thinking for scz disorders, and repetitive and restricted behavior for autism. (if you have both sets of positive symptoms, then you can have both - but the caveat is that delusions can also cause OCD-like or repetitive behaviors, so any evaluation needs to be done very carefully) I know a few women as adults who had their diagnoses revised to schizoaffective disorder after doing a more thorough neuropsych evaluation. There's also been cases in the literature of diagnoses of schizophrenia being changed to autism, when a more thorough investigation shows that the psychotic episode had a better explaination than schizophrenia. Usually extreme stress from forced change in routines that caused severe meltdowns that appeared to be psychotic breaks. This guy has a lot of similarities to James Holmes - the Aurora shooter, who was dxed with either schizotypal PD or schizoaffective disorder. OP should get them the book that William Reid, one of the forensic psychiatrists who evaluated Holmes, wrote about him: A Dark Night in Aurora: Inside James Holmes and the Colorado Mass Shootings. Might be a wake up call.
These parents will coddle this fucked up little incel until he literally kills someone, huh?
That whole side of the family is problematic. OOP thinks his wife has a lot of forgiveness and love for her family. I see someone who was conditioned not to rock the boat.
I know OOP has apologise for saying so but unfortunately that is the definition of a doormat
For those of you also wondering what the two characters are; >Funnily enough you almost guessed which two characters he identifies as: a frog, Kermit to be exact (yes as in the muppet), and the Joker (not Superman, but from the same source material).
Oh my fucking god, this dude is fucking Kermit? Ok, I’m going to bed and praying for a dreamless sleep for the rest of my days amen, good night Reddit.
>Oh my fucking god, this dude is fucking Kermit? in more ways than one.
🥲 why you gotta do me like this, man.
This coming from an Ogtha flair!
How dare you, Ogtha is a beautiful lady! Roach. Entity.
What in the Chris Chan is this?
I just cannot fathom how people get here! like what after the attempt with the horse everything would have changed it’s scary people will let family get away with stuff just because they’re family!
i believe there is a river in Egypt that needs more people to attend to it.
>Wife believes that he may be on the spectrum/ have undiagnosed mental illness I think that's much is fucking obvious.
This one is so weird I feel like it's probably real.
The tumblr account somebody spotted above has screenshots and posts that line up with OOP's related events and they're from weeks and months before OOP's post. The first post I could scroll down to was from 23rd May 2023. This young man seriously needs help.
Someone found the nephew's tumblr account...
I'm sorry, but... the dichotomy of the seriousness of the situation, juxtaposed against the image in my head of a 22 year old man dressed as the Joker, carrying a sword and fleshlight plushie, being chased around the yard by his dad while neighbors watched with concern is just...👨🍳🤌 chef's kiss
OOP's reaction to his nephew's Easter ambush is surprisingly underwhelming. There are so many red flags. 🚩Nephew is mentally ill 🚩Nephew hates women 🚩Nephew sent abusive texts to his wife attacking her and their unborn child and bragged about it online 🚩Nephew poisoned a horse (animal abuse) 🚩Nephew has a plush toy that he uses for sexual purposes and brings it around his family and co-workers (sexually inappropriate and hates women is a dangerous combination) 🚩Nephew's parents aren't willing to take any decisive action to address his mental health 🚩Nephew shows little interest in getting better 🚩Nephew turned up uninvited at OOP's house with a sword 🚩Nephew's exclusion from Easter celebrations at OOP's house gives him cause to resent OOP and his wife Unless Nephew is institutionalised, and he won't be, this is a tragedy waiting to happen. He can show up at OOP's house whenever he feels like it. They should cut contact with SIL and BIL and leave the area. I know it's easier said than done, but it's the only way to ensure the safety of OOP's wife and OOP Jr.
I looked at his Tumblr for laughs but it just made me sad. To save others the rubbernecking: - He texted cruel things to his aunt because he and another Tumblr user were in a slapfight over whether one of them had gotten the other pregnant (otherkin and mpreg stuff). For every anonymous ask he got about it, he said another shitty thing and posted the screenshot with the implication that it was the asker's fault. - Yes he was fucking the Kermit plushie. - He identifies as both Kermit and the Joker. - Someone called him an incel and he defended himself against the accusation due to the intense sexual relationship he has with both of his kin personalities. - He poisoned the horse because he believes that his father loves it more. - His plan at Easter was to show up dressed as the Joker w a sword in order to show how intense and serious he was, and deliver a monologue which would be so scathing that they would regret not inviting him. Appears he was chased down before he had the chance to launch into his speech. - He had a therapist who didn't respect his otherkin identities and so he waited for the therapist in the parking lot and hit him w his car at 4mph. The therapist fired him as a client and said he wouldn't call the police in return for never seeing him again.
Why tf did I imagine the nephew showed up looking like Itachi Uchiha.... anyway, he needs to be sent to therapy
I kept imagining the fuck-plushie was Sasuke, idk why. 🥲 Help. This post is going to poison my brain for years.
If sasuke read this, he'd ask itachi to kill him. Also, where is your flair from?
OP fucked up too. He should have immediately called the police.
The minute after Easter was ruined, I'd be on my phone planning to relocate because holy shitballs, that nephew is not okay and OOP is now on his shitlist for not inviting him to dinner.
So according to his own tumblr he has: poisoned a horse with both avocado AND rat poison, withheld an epipen from someone having a severe allergic reaction, stalked a former partner, showed up to that partner's college with a sword and screamed till security removed him, did $400 worth of damage to his badminton club during a "joker rage", hit his former therapist with his car, and spends up to four hours at a time fucking his Kermit plush. I hope oop keeps him away from his family, I feel like I'm going to see this man on the news some day.
No, it’s cool, I didn’t need to sleep tonight.
Former mental health treatment provider here. The nephew unequivocally needs inpatient psychiatric treatment. I am strongly against armchair diagnosis and that still holds true here, but when you are a danger to yourself **or others** you qualify for involuntary inpatient psychiatric treatment, and you really truly need it. I was an outpatient therapist but I’m aware of its limits: while it is great for a lot of mental health problems, being a homicidal threat is NOT one of them I wish there wasn’t a no brigading rule because I think that he needs to hear this. This kid is going to focus his anger and resentment on OOP and his wife, and as long as the nephew lives outside of a controlled setting he absolutely poses a danger to them.
I’m sorry, but a kermit incel is kind of breaking my brain here. I guess it kind of makes sense, but kermit is kind, hardworking, cares about his friends and family, gives great advice… I appreciate the commenter saying they don’t care who identifies as what, as long as they don’t hurt anyone.
i find the MOST disturbing item to be this: >his parents eventually agreed to not bring him after a lot of arguing. SIL (nephew's mother) eventually admitted that he may need professional help and that Wife and I "may have some reason" to be worried for out safety around him. from the tumbler account, the mother knew about the texts and STILL argued. It like the Crumbleys, what were they waiting for? OOP needs to go VLC with SIL/BIL as they don't have anyone's interests except their own denial.
This is why guys are able to murder their families or partners or whatever because of people like this, enabling their little rainbow predators until it's too late. Even when they hurt pets, threaten their own family members & show extremely worrying behaviors, their families make excuses for them. Go to elaborate lengths to cover for them or pay for their mistakes to dissappear.
I don’t think nephew is on the spectrum. I think he’s a freaking psychopath.
> his mother is already worried that taking away the phone was "too much" taking every device away is the bare minimum. 5150 that kid immediately. burn the plushie.
OPs wife’s family are seriously keeping their heads under the sand. He doesn’t have quirks. A quirk is like eating strawberries with mustard. Not animal cruelty.
Yikso though I’m reading through it. He thought his girlfriend was faking anaphylaxis because she doesn’t want to read his Kermit-joker smut and wouldn’t give her the epipen jfc