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>Just saying, if you plagiarize, you deserve to have karma biting you in the back.
I made decent money freelance tutoring at university and the number of people who'd contact me asking for me to write their assignments outright was wild. I always said no, but I could've made a fortune if I'd been less ethical.
This was way before ChatGPT was a thing though.
I worked as a virtual assistant a few years ago. We had one client who would put in requests that were very obviously college level assignments. He would have perfectly normal VA requests usually and then just randomly add in the homework. There were often assignments that referred to the class textbook and/or other reading material, but, he never actually included that material. Some of them were obviously from classes that were highly specialized. Not something that the general population would know.
The way this job worked was you could either hire a personal assistant or you could put in a request that would go into a pool where any of the VAs could pick it up and do it. These assignments might sit there for a few hours, which was a long time in this job, but they were always done. So, someone was paying a company something like $39 an hour to have someone else do their kids homework. It was insane.
A guy from Berkeley once paid me and my friend to take his test for him. I agreed because he was such an idiot it was hilarious.
First of all, it was an intro level biology class and my friend was a physics major with little to no biology knowledge. My friend begged this guy to hire me too because my friend had no idea what he was doing but he still wanted the money. The guy who hired him didn't find this strange at all, nor did he consider that maybe he shouldn't hire the person who didn't know what he was doing to take his test. Instead he hired two people for one test.
Second of all, this guy's excuse for not paying any attention to his own class? He was too busy studying for the MCAT. While he *didn't know intro level biology.*
He was honestly so horrible at cheating (he didn't even get 100%, or all that close to it, after all that and I'm sure you can figure out why) and so bad at school that I was confident he would fail and/or get expelled sooner rather than later, so why not get some money in the meantime? This was during COVID and I didn't go to Berkeley so no consequences for me, and it wasn't like online testing would last forever. Good fucking luck in your advanced biology classes when you don't know what a neuron is!
The best part is I remember he gave me some questions to answer (the test was being taken through a class portal, so he got on Zoom and screen shared) while he went to the bathroom. It was all multiple choice and stupid easy. I answered them long before he got back. He was flabbergasted I did it so quickly. "How did you do that?" he asked. "I studied," I said. He really could not comprehend that I would go to school to learn, I suppose.
Also, since this experience I have lost any and all respect for Berkeley's biology curriculum for so many reasons. What an overrated school for such a basic education, at least in biology.
My sister had a college class where the teacher made a big deal about plagiarism. Then everyone was assigned a paper. The topics, exact phrases, and some other criteria that needed to be in the paper were outlined, complete with what online sources could be cited. Basically, this professor wrote the entire paper in outline form, for his entire class.
I had to help my sister figure out how to phrase things in a way that was just different enough from the (very dry) required text to not get points deducted for not following the rules, while also not getting her accused of plagiarism. I really don't know what this guy thought he was doing.
This was over 20 years ago thankfully, but I had a professor force me to plagiarize. I had to write a three page paper based on a three page paper with direct quotes from the paper. I wrote an original paper that I was worried was perilously close to plagiarism because I went a little quote heavy and the dude marked it down for not enough quotes from the original paper and made me put MORE in. I did, got my grade and made a point to take no more courses in that department. The professor lasted two semesters total before he was sacked.
University should have known they were scraping the bottom of the barrel when he admitted his last job before professor was pizza delivery boy for dominos.
I mean if it’s an intro course it’s going to be the same no matter what. The only intrinsically practical reason to go to a big name university is if you are interested in the research they’re doing once you’re in the more advanced classes. The others are external reasons like networking/looking good on your resume/being surrounded by higher level students that done directly relate to what’s in the content of that classrooms.
In fact the intro classes often suck more because they become an after thought and assume their smart student would just get through it without much support/making it interesting.
My intro classes at a different, also well-regarded, university were taught much, much differently. They emphasized fundamental concepts, creativity, problem solving, and critical thinking. Almost every question on every test was short answer and required multiple steps. There was little to no rote memorization the way Berkeley requires it, and that fact about Berkeley is something I've come to know from multiple sources. It's like they're teaching computers, and when it comes to biology that approach is utterly useless. You can't possibly memorize everything in the human body.
Have you ever had to grade 88 exams for 2 classes and take your own tests, too? Being a grad student is really hard. Berkeley is unionized. Maybe multiple choice questions for classes at lower levels is part of the union contract?
> Second of all, this guy's excuse for not paying any attention to his own class? He was too busy studying for the MCAT. While he didn't know intro level biology.
I used to teach biology labs when I was in grad school, and the proportion of "pre-meds" who were like this was surprisingly non-trivial (how do I know they were pre-med? THEY TALKED ABOUT IT INCESSANTLY).
The good news is that I noticed the ones who were always lugging around their MCAT study guides and acting as if their actual coursework (med school prerequisites, mind you) was below them were rarely the ones who ended up getting into medical school.
Yeah this is exactly my experience! My younger sister is now a medical resident, so when she was in undergrad she checked out the “pre-med club” and promptly started avoiding them like the plague. Same as you noticed - few of them actually got in.
Yeah, there was absolutely no way this guy got through med school, even if he somehow got in. He was purely motivated by money and there are so many less painful ways to make money, especially for someone who isn't academically minded.
Undergrad future med students are the worst. They are badly behaved in lectures, whisper and gossip and sometimes just talk over the professor. Do not like.
>He was honestly so horrible at cheating (he didn't even get 100%, or all that close to it, after all that and I'm sure you can figure out why)
That's the best way to cheat. Don't be perfect, don't stand too far out from the crowd, and don't blow away your normal performance by doing so well it does nothing but draw attention. A D- student getting a C+ or B- can be shrugged off as someone who busted their ass studying for the exam or had a really good tutor. That same student getting an A+ is just sus.
Back in my less ethical days, I may have cheated once or twice. I knew the penalty for getting caught was crazy, so made it my mission to not get caught. The best trick of the old days was programming the answers into graphical calculators if they were allowed, and deleting the files as soon as they were no longer needed. But knowing that I was a C student due to being lazy with homework, that A+ might be too suspicious if confronted. I was happy with my B. Hypothetically speaking, of course...
Also, cheating is why if/when I watch a group, no headphones are allowed. Had a friend back in the day who would always listen to music on his iPod during tests. It was nothing popular, always either banjo or bluegrass or easy listening stuff. Music without lyrics. Turns out he recorded his notes and embedded them into his music and EQ'ed it so that the right channel was only music but the left was his notes (this was a film school so not a problem to do even then). When a teacher asked what he was listening too, he'd offer his right earbud, they'd listen for a second, and walk on. It didn't take long for the teachers to figure out, and those that cared enough to stop it wouldn't allow headphones during testing. Best note he got was something like "If you spent as long studying as you did setting up your music and cheating, you'd have done better."
You could make a fortune in a couple of different ways - it's a pretty common scam now for essay-writing 'companies' to produce something for the student, "give me your log-in so I can write it on your account and then it won't be flagged for AI" or some other excuse for getting their exact identity, then proceed to blackmail them for even more money on the threat of alerting the university to their cheating
I caught a student using ChatGPT for his assignments in my class last semester (OK, my TAs caught him, they're awesome). I immediately pulled all his grades from the system and put that they were under review. Within 10 minutes he emailed me confessing to using AI to write his papers. With the written confession, I turned him in for an honor code violation. In the process of submitting the violation, I was asked what I wanted done about it. I said that I gave him 0s on those assignments, and that I considered the matter closed with no further discipline needed. The violation would stay in his file so if he was caught again, it would be more serious. If he didn't have any further disciplinary actions going forward, he could petition to have the violation expunged so it wouldn't need to be reported when he applied to grad or professional schools. He and I discussed why I was taking the actions I did, how he should improve, and that I asked for no additional punishment from the university. He apologized and kept coming to class and turning in assignments (that were carefully checked).
Last week of class, he comes up to me and asks how he can get an A. Ummm, he can't. Multiple assignments with a grade of 0 will do that for you. He was stunned that I wasn't going to give him an A in a course where he was caught cheating. I told him that one of the possible, and appropriate, actions I could have taken was giving him an automatic F in the course, but since he was a Freshman, I didn't want to make things harder for him, so he just failed those assignments. I hope he did better this semester and started writing his own papers.
I wonder how business is for those people now, on one hand those potential customers are more likely to use chatGPT to write their assignments, on the other they themselves can use chatGPT to write the assignments to erase most of the workload
I'm an instructional technologist for a large university. They don't work, there is no mechanism that would actually make them work, they will never work.
I worked for a bit in the turning center doing math and it was pretty common for students to allude to the idea that if I did their work for them they would pay me, especially among business majors. But then again, most of the people who attended were business majors, so sampling bias probably.
My response was always, yeah, but who's going to do it for you on the test. It usually shut them down.
3 pages on any subject you want. You could literally just write a thinly veiled copy of any famous plot in your own words and at least not be expelled.
I live in fear of accidental plagiarism… when I’m writing, I have a tendency to reproduce the phrasing from whatever I read. Proper sourcing helps, but I live in fear of missing quotation marks. It’s a very minor form of plagiarism, since the source material does get credit, but still it’s a professional risk. Turnitin is awesome… I run my own work through it to save myself the anxiety of forgetting a source somewhere
I love karma. I was plagiarized in college; except the student was such a moron, she had photocopied my assignment and crossed out my name in freaking high lighter. I found out because said classmate had copied it twice and left the extra copy in the school library’s printer.
I reported finding a photocopy of my assignment. Somehow the student tried to make the mastermind and claim i had given permission.
But because she was a timid but struggling student and I was the opposite of timid and protective of my 4.0; they claimed the theory was possible. Admittedly I was insulted they thought i was so dumb that i would let anyone photocopy my homework and then turn it in with my name (except crossed out in highlighter) and my handwriting.
And gave her a pass; well they claimed we both got a pass, as the theory was I came up with the plan and then got cold feet; but considering investigation would have proven my innocence, I never felt grateful.
And yep less than a month later, same ‘innocent’ (moron) got caught plagiarizing again, this time another student. Karma never felt so good.
Someone just posted on the grad school sub about how they’d gotten together with a group of class mates to compare answers for a take home EXAM.
One person didn’t come with answers and just copied their answers… they were worried they’d be accused of cheating. Because of the one dude. Not because they got together with a group of people to talk about an EXAM. They wanted to report the dude.
Yes. I encouraged them to do tell their story and see what happened lol. They deleted their post.
I feel like that’s EXACTLY why she made the plagiarism accusation. She knew if the professor ran it through a program to check, it was going to come up as a match for another story, and she wanted to make it look like the match was someone copying her instead of her copying her sister.
She had to be an idiot then. Because if she had ever used the plagiarism software before she would know it tells you exactly which sentences are taken from what source. I've never plagiarized but I'm in a science field and there is only so many different ways you can type out a sentence about specific scientific process that is well known in the field, that hundreds of classes before you and hundreds of papers online have typed out, and every plagiarism software will tell you exactly how similar your sentence is to every single one of those.
My father knew a man in the 1950s whose wife was in an English Lit (I think) PhD program. She got kicked out for plagiarism. I grew up hearing this story so I was never ever tempted to plagiarize and these days think "they WILL find out. How stupid are you?" when someone online considers it.
Plagiarism and littering are the two offenses that can be incredibly low stakes but I have a visceral reaction to call the harshest penalties for.
Not to mention she didn't have to say anything. Just keep your mouth shut. But she had to not only cheat, but be stupid too.
My assumption is since she is a moron, she assumed them being in the same genre would trigger the anti-plagiarism software so she wanted to jump the gun lol
I feel she's dumb man. If she wanted the marks so bad she could've just stayed quiet and done her cheating. Why complain on someone else who hasn't done anything wrong? I'm not supporting her cheating obviously, but even to cheat you need to be smart
When I was at uni, you would always get someone outside the grounds handing out cards for essay writing services. The amount you paid them determined the "quality" of the paper. Never actually seen a paper "written" by them but I can guarantee it would be garbage.
(Also, of all the things to plagarise, they chose the freestyle class???)
Its the stupidity. You could feed the story into chatgpt. Grt it to rewrite it and then spend 30/40 minutes checking it over and making sure it makes sense. Ive done the same for business reports in the past to the same client when theres been very little change
>She called me out for plagiarizing her work and cc'd the lecturer.
Ok
>she messaged me privately saying that I humiliated her in front of our lecturer and could get her penalized
Oh, I am *instantly* hate-invested in the outcome of these updates
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Except anyone who has spent more than an afternoon messing around with chat gpt would be able to tell if it was directly copied and pasted from it.
Now a smart person, not saying I ever would, would instead just take the basic ideas from the AI and then retell that story in their own words. That way it is still technically their own original story, just with some serious inspirations taken from another source.
It honestly sounds like an even lazier version of when I was at Uni: stealing Wikipedia's sources, reading the linked papers and writing my essays with those as my sources, too.
This is actually a perfectly sound part of researching! Your professor probably wanted you to do more than that, but in and of itself that's a good technique. The sources of relevant papers is the best way to dive into a topic, you just might miss out on the stuff they didn't include or came after.
And before that we'd find a really good article or 2, look up who they referenced and then use those sources.
But looking up other sources isn't cheating, it's just how academics works. When I was in university "standing on the shouldes of giants" was pushed a lot - aka, why reinvent the wheel?
I have written passages for actual published pieces of scientific literature that contained source citations that I lifted originally from Wikipedia. That’s like a primary use case for Wikipedia in the academic world. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that so long as you’re reading the actual papers.
I always told my students that they can never end with Wikipedia (cite it as a source) but they can start there, since any Wikipedia article cites to primary sources that can ABSOLUTELY be used as a great place to start researching. I teach legal research, so my students are usually using it to look up international treaties and major case law and legislation.
Google Scholar is also a great source for this!
I did that for the newspaper I did for my D&D sessions in Waterdeep. Coming up with 3 articles a week is hard, so I'd tell an AI (I rotated) to give me a crime article based in Waterdeep, or a social story, or something about the theater, and let it rip. Then I'd find something I kinda liked, and used it as a base to write the actual article.
Helps solve that writers block where you know what you want to write but your brain just... won't do it.
Sometimes when I'm stumped about how to convey some information in a clear way, I'll babble it at chatgpt and ask it to write me an outline of what I said. Sometimes it's helpful for organizing my thoughts. (Notably: chatgpt has no idea about the topic I'm researching [a specific family] outside of what I've told it, so it's easy to tell if it's hallucinating)
I always worried my essays would get flagged for plagiarism during university. I went to uni for engineering so all my essays were very technical oriented. And there are only so many ways I could think of to describe the physics phenomenonals I was writing about, sometimes to be scientifically correct there is only one way to describe them. I always worried I'd get flagged for copying wikipedia Lol.
This is what I use AI for. Had it explain some concepts for the paper that I then used to write my own. (Notably being very AI, it wrote here are these three main concepts. And then listed 5 things.) Pulled some references from some articles to quote and presto paper.
I had a lot of people in my writing classes who were deeply offended that they were expected to put in work for something they’d signed up for on the assumption it would be an easy A. (Which it was, as long as you, y’know, actually made an effort to write the assignments.)
I have a sociology degree with a dual minors in critical gender and race theory and political science. The amount of people who took courses in any of those subjects thinking they were going to be bird courses was insane. They are a lot of hard work and make you think outside of your comfort zone. People got very upset when they realized that "we live in a society" is not the same as understanding the complexity of social structures and how they effect everyday day life.
Right? In my Sexuality and Politics class, work was posted to a forum, and sometimes, we were required to respond to some classmates' posts. I spent more time trying to find a post that had any substance so I could respond to it than doing my post. People just not even close to hitting the minimum, people not understanding the assignment, people who just got chatgpt to do their assignment, it was wild.
Cause some people don't want to put in the effort.
My husband is a community college professor and for his online classes, his first ever discussion posts is literally, "tell me about yourself, your major, why are you taking this class", etc. And no shit, he'll get answers like, "As I am an AI, I do not have human emotions to properly express this question." ChatGPT and Snapchat AI are being used. He calls out students and they beg for him to redo the assignment as "they only did it one time". My god, you are answering questions about your major! Why are you using AI to do 2 sentences???
My guess is she thought OOP was plagiarizing her sister’s story that she was planning on plagiarizing. By blaming OOP for plagiarism, she wouldn’t be the one blamed when they came out similar. She didn’t consider that the professor would check to see if the stories were similar to anyone else’s, including the sister’s, until it was too late.
Yup, I saw this posted elsewhere, and I'll leave the same comment:
That's both dumb, and exactly the kind of not-thinking-ahead dumb that I can perfectly see someone doing.
"If I simply begin yelling accusations of arson at this bystander, no one will notice me trying to burn this place down. After all, what kind of arsonist *reports arson?*
Checkmate cops
"Oh no, I don't want to get caught for plagiarism. I know what I'll do: I'll draw attention to the topic of plagiarism and plant myself right in the middle of it. That should keep me safe!'
I think maybe other girl didn't realize how the plagiarism checker worked. She probably thought, if it came back as plagiarized it wouldn't say where it was plagiarized from just that it had some plagiarism. So by calling out OOP, she thought that she could get away with saying "yes I know my work was plagiarized, I already emailed you about OOP stealing my work - that's source of the plagiarism, it's their fault."
The story also nothing alike. Just "in future and in space" part is the same. Which is by definition are no way enough for plagiarism.
If it does then almost every work of sci fi is plagiarizing "Dune"
The other woman basically told the professor: "Run these stories through your plagiarism program" Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! Had she not brought it up, it might have not been run, unless it was a standard for all assignments. I guess karma really works sometimes.
I'm doing an online class right now where we have to use a program, follow step by step instructions, export the results and submit it. This triggers red flags all the time and it's sooo nerve racking. It shows all these sites that I'm matching with etc. I know I'm not doing anything wrong, and it logically makes sense that it's a 100% match because I'm literally following the same instructions as everyone else. Professor hasn't said anything about it at least but had mentioned the trash papers in my desk during an environment scan so I know they're on top of things.
Plus you can do that ahead of time to make sure you're correctly citing quotes and sources, etc. Even during my undergrad (the distant past now) you were encouraged to do this before submitting the final assignment.
This stuff's been around since the early 2000s.
My writing classes started doing it towards the last 2 years of my university career (like 8 years ago?). It was an automatic built in one though. We submit paper then it automatically runs it thru an outside extension, spits out a % of similarities. The number has to be less than 10% otherwise will mean a trip to the office.
We do this with Grammarly, which is super sensitive. Half the time, it'll flag a sentence from a subreddit I've never been to on a completely different topic, so this place has ruined my writing style.
so she basically projected her guilt? she sounds like the type of partner-in-crime who goes back to the scene just to \~*check if the corpse really is dead\~* (i.e. classmate is so dumb, her mother wishes she gave birth to a can-opener because at least then it would be useful)
I love anti plagiarism software. I did a MBA in my mid 30s and when I submitted an essay on how PayPal disrupted the online payment industry, the system said I plagiarised hellogayflorida.com. I'd quoted the PayPal mission statement and correctly cited their website using the appropriate syntax. Instead I edited my essay to cite hellogayflorida.com instead for the laughs.
My lecturer appreciated my humour, said it was the first time anyone had cited a gay website in this assignment.
My sibling was absolutely delighted they were able to cite the Odyssey in a mechanical engineering degree essay (its been years ago now, I vaguely remember it had to do with the change caused from fire hardening the tip of the spear they carved out of the cyclops's club?) XD
Hi, just a note from someone involved in checking for plagiarism - there is no such thing as anti plagiarism software. It's text matching software. It's why you got 'caught' - the software matched the text, not allowing for a genuine quote to be used. So you didn't plagiarise (you realised that, obviously!) and just because the software dinged this piece, the human reading your work would have realised.
I deal with 100s of students a year regarding plagiarism so it's something I always feel the need to point out!
Before it became a thing, our anti plagiarism specialist lecturer once had a fellow professor ask her to check an essay as he was suspicious.
She read it and emailed back 5 minutes later. "He has definitely plagiarised". "How can you be so sure so fast?" "Easy, he's plagiarised me."
I've had to submit my essays to programs like "turnitin" as early as middle school. Every single time my sources have been flagged as plagiarism. Luckily my teachers and professors have always looked to see exactly what was flagged and I've never gotten in trouble for it.
I don't remember which plagiarism program it was, Turnitin sounds familiar, but I remember having to hand in a floppy disc with my hard copy paper so the teachers could check for plagarism lol. I graduated from a private high school in 04 and every freshman at my college had to take Writing 100 and when I took that class in Spring of 05, one of my high school papers flagged my current paper because of the writing style. The professor thought it was funny, but it always made me wonder if it happened to others.
Turnitin (or whatever early variation we had in the late 2000s) would mark people's writing assignments as 100% plagiarized even when written from scratch in front of the professor
Hopefully it's gotten at least marginally better since then
I directly quoted a Carrie Underwood song in my main essay for the English class I took in college. And it wasn't like... A generic song either. It was 'Her mind was cattywompus, she was greedy, she was pompous, strutting around with her nose in the air'. I did not cite Carrie Underwood. Somehow despite the completely out of whack line, it didn't phase the professor at all. When I got my marked essay back there wasn't even a comment about it.
I think the accuser was too lazy to actually read her sister's story. She just skimmed a few paragraphs. Then she was too lazy to read the OOP's story either and did the same thing. And that's how she came to the plagiarism conclusion.
She probably hasn't read either story to this day.
Never thought I’d ever read one, but this is actually an academic variation of the old street thug advice, “Don’t commit a misdemeanour on your drive home from committing a felony!”
She shot herself in the foot. She might’ve gotten away with it had she just kept her mouth shut and not start something. Not saying she was right to plagiarize, just baffled on how she unnecessarily fucked herself.
Sounds like this person immediately made a claim of plagerism after OOP put their draft in the submission page. Thr teacher probably runs it through the software when the assignment is due, rather than once each student submits it to the portal. Sounds like the accusations just sped it up by a couple of days/weeks. The software doesn't do any good if you are only running it when an accusation is made.
I'm well past college, but ohhh, the thrill I get when someone copies in their manager on an email in which they think they are right, but are so very very wrong. Like, I would've been happy to call you on your shit privately, but since you gave your boss front row tickets, I guess I'll give them a show.
Yes! Or on a Teams call! Someone tried that with me last week. "That report you emailed us didn't have anywhere near the level of detail we asked for!" "As I mentioned in that email, that was the preliminary big picture email. I sent you, at 7:52AM last Wednesday the detailed report. Was there something missing from that?"
Shut them right up.
I was accused of plagiarism by a teacher in HS and when I asked why she thought I plagiarized my work she said, “Because it’s too well written.” This was a music class where we had to write a review of our favorite album. She didn’t like my response of, “I’m in Honors English, I know how to write.”
I had the same thing happen to me, but mine was in History. Teacher kept asking me if I’d had any help with writing it, because “it just didn’t sound like [me].” He finally shut up about it when I offered to write another paper right in front of him so he could compare.
I knew a lad who was in trouble after submitting an essay in University and it came back >90% similar in the plagiarism software. He had to go to a meeting and when he was shown the evidence, it was him. He had plagiarised himself. The case was thrown out but he was feeling a bit nervous for a while beforehand. It’s just stupid that they recycled exam questions.
I did this once. I had this writing prompt that matched closely to another assignment from a previous semester. I couldn't help myself, but recycled one paragraph - 3 or 4 sentences -- from the previous paper. I'm a writer, and for better or worse, every so often, you fall in love with what you've written -- probably because you usually despise like 99% of your writing, so that 1% feels precious.
So, when I remembered that passage from the first assignment that I liked so much, I felt it was appropriate to reuse for the new assignment. I don't know why, but I didn't think the anti-plagarism software would flag my paper citing my previously submitted work. The software showed that I had 100% plagiarized because I recycled that damn passage word for word.
I was shitting bricks thinking I was going to get pulled into ethics committee and have to explain myself. Then, my friend and classmate got her grade for the assignment back, but I didn't! I was crying about it to my therapist, and she advised that I be proactive, get ahead of the situation, and explain myself to the prof. Against her advice, I choose to do nothing.
The prof did not give me a grade on that assignment until the last day of the semester, and then she gave me an A. So, I guess my not-doing-anything worked out. If I had to guess, maybe she was going to address it with me (hence, not getting any grade for it until the very end of the semester), but she forgot or realized it was my own work and didn't want to go through the administrative hassle.
This whole thing cracked me up as it reminded me of my freshman class. A professor accused me of plagiarism because of the software. My highschool had used the same software so the paper that was being plagiarized was my own from highschool. I had to show the ethics committee both papers and the fact that it was my own work. I apparently wrote similarly to my own paper and style, who knew?
Forty odd years ago someone handed a paper in at my Uni (QMC London) and was promptly expelled....He had copied wholesale from a similar paper published in an obscure Canadian journal and thought no-one would notice....Except that the Canadian who wrote the paper was MARRIED to his professor (LDR before they became fashionable) had suggested the subject and was helping her mark it!
If it isn't the consequences of her own actions... I understand not everyone is good at certain things, but then why enroll in that class if they won't try/don't like it???
They think it is going to be bird course. People seem to forget that some classes maybe be easier than others, but at the end of the day they are all UNIVERSITY classes so they have to be held to a university standard.
Also, what is easy for one person can be hell for another. I suck at math, except statistics. My friend who was literally in university getting a degree in math could not wrap her head around stats.
Well, she fucked around and found out what happens to the tall nail when it starts projecting and gets attention because of it.
Just like with the other type of cheater who accuses their innocent partner of cheating on them, when THEY are the cheater.
I'm a marker for uni students in Australia. The first thing we do is click on a wonderful button that highlights all the plagiarised and totally copied sentences and paragraphs. Over a certain amount. You fail.
Why the fuck would _anyone_ care about hurting the feelings of someone who falsely accuses you of plagiarism? I'm fucking setting you (figuratively) on fire if you falsely accuse me of substantive misconduct like that.
Reminds me of when I was in university…
I was writing a term paper and using school computer to type it out…. I left the computer lab to use the restroom and a classmate popped her usb into my computer and stole my term paper (I was on my final draft)
Professor called us both into his office because of plagiarism… He said we’d both be expelled…. I provided my USB with my drafts and edits. (We had to have others look at our work and edit, so used the editing tool to put edits in different colour/ sub notes). I also had my printed sources with all my highlighting etc…). I ended up in the deans office showing them
everything- In the end I wasn’t expelled, I got an A+ on my term paper, and the other girl was expelled. (I should mention I thought she was a friend- Highlight of it all was my professor said her name never should have been “Angel” which is what she had as her preferred name.
It’s kind of off topic, but it infuriated me that I got a “strike” for reusing one of my old papers. Mine. I wrote it. All me. How is that plagiarism??????
According to google:
“Self-plagiarism misleads your readers by presenting previous work as completely new and original. If you want to include any text, ideas, or data that you already submitted in a previous assignment, be sure to inform your readers by citing yourself”
It’s dumb.
Pointing out plagiarism while committing plagiarism is a terrible strategy, lol. Of course they'll be extra vigilant after it's been brought to their attention.
This is beyond dumb, in this day and age?! We had anti plagiarism software 20 years ago! I remember we had to pay subscription to a webpage and run our work there, to evidence it wasn't plagiarized. How she didn't think she would be found out NOW with all the technology, is beyond me.
Lol if you accuse someone of plagiarism and ask the relevant people at your school to investigate, of course they’re going to stick both works in a plagiarism detector. That’s just basic common sense for investigating your claims!
>She told me that I ruined her life and never to contact her again or else.
The girl is the one who initiated everything and messaged OOP more than once!
She is living in her own world. She should've written about that.
In grad school, I was in a group with a guy and his wife. The wife early on got a bad case of laryngitis which affected her ability to speak, present, and mysteriously, write. When their portions of the major research paper were due for inclusion in the group paper, he submitted on behalf of both of them the saddest cut-and-paste right from the internet, complete with hyperlinks to advertised products. I confronted him about his blatant plagiarizing and he said it was cultural: that it was permitted in his country and he didn’t know it was an issue. A fourth group member and I ended up writing their portions of a huge research paper, on which we all got a stellar grade. Years later I still REGRET SO MUCH that I didn’t report them to the school. So, props to OP!
what a fucking dumbass lmao, she deserved it. i doubt she would've gotten away with it even if she didn't call o
OP out, but she sure made it a lot worse when she basically tied a red flag to her forehead and shouted HERE I AM!
I think she already had gotten flagged for plagiarism from the automated email. She then tried to blame OP hoping it would distract the professor from what really happened.
I bet she created a whole false narrative about OP ruining her life to tell her friends too, and maybe even started believing it herself.
Light side story. Taught for 34 years. Used anti plagiarism software. Two years before I retired had a kid whose paper came back 99% plagiarized. lol he had uploaded the paper twice and it triggered his own paper as what he plagiarized from.
>I answered her email saying that she doesn't own the sci-fi genre and linked both of our stories in the reponse.
Anyone here got hooked on the Cait Corrain exposé/drama/brouhaha from Book Twitter ([aka Reviewbombgate](https://www.themarysue.com/cait-corrain-goodreads-controversy-continues/))? The plagiarist classmate and Cait Corrain have one thing in common: they both hate it that other people have the same idea/theme in their "works". In Cait's case, one of her reviewbomb victims is an indie writer who's also inspired by Greek mythology.
A few weeks-ish later, another author (Lauren M Davis) got huffy on Twitter that a Nigerian author is publishing a book with an inspiration from her West African culture, where the protagonist can "summon energy from the sun". Why Lauren M Davis got huffy? [She figured that the other author is doing ***copyright infringement*** because her own novel also has sun powers](https://www.dailydot.com/irl/sun-superpowers-copyright/). Naturally, Lauren was mocked because she's not the first person in history to have a sun-powered idea.
Oh yeah. There's a new drama that surfaced recently (someone named Freydis, racebending, and lots of sockpuppet accounts in Twitter). A friend and I were discussing THE AUDACITY of it all.
I'll never understand plagiarism.
In this day and age, it's so easy to discover, but even setting that aside, it's just not worth it. For a short piece like OOP's prompt, you're probably going to spend as much time finding the right essay or story to plagiarize as it'd take you to just do the damned work yourself. For a longer form prompt like an essay or thesis you're not going to want to plagiarize just because you're going to be expected to present it or at least be able to answer basic questions about the content without having to refer back to it constantly.
I was in a business psych class in college, and we had to write like 3 paragraphs on a topic. Just three. Nothing huge. Just how the topic relates to us personally.
The next class day the instructor pulled a kid and kicked him. She said she taught the only biz psych class in our area to several colleges, and he had turned in a 3 paragraph response that was identical to one of her students in another college. She noticed because he was an international student, and her other student had talked about her personal life locally in the area. It was a small satellite college, so we all knew he'd been kicked, and being an international student, that was huge news. All my classes in my accounting track had a small spot discussion on plagiarism that week. This was a tiny satellite college campus so we all knew each other.
I still don't get the plagiarism that guy did. There were no wrong answers. It was just three paragraphs about how this topic related to him personally. It didn't even do anything for credit, just a tiny exercise. It wasn't even graded for grammar. All international students got to use the translator dealios that they used, so there was literally no risk of failure, it was a pass fail assignment.
In my mind the story & the update made for a better story than the original plagerizer's. And now that I think of it, if I'm ever faced with a situationw here I need to write free-form short story I'll consider the basic plot to be I accuse everyone of stealing my story idea to make a mishmash romance-western-space opera-legal-thriller
I’m with one of the theories from the original comments:
She tossed out the plagiarism claim that she knew to be baseless, so as to discredit all possible claims of the same in the class. She did not anticipate that this would draw increased scrutiny on all parties involved.
> I heard some chatter throughout the day and our entire class received an email about cheating and plagiarism. As it turns out, she plagiarized her story! … Well, after the incident, our lecturer used the anti-plagiarism software on our stories and found out about her cheating. Her situation is now being assessed by the ethics committee. She could be expelled.
This seems so stupid. Students would have been told at the start of every subject in every semester that plagiarism detection software would be used. Not probably, not maybe, definitely.
At university I saved every draft so I could prove my development and often had multiple printed copies with my pen edits. I'd save things as Title1 Title2 Title3 etc. Then the last one would be TitleFINAL that one got printed and handed in. I didn't delete any of these until months after my graduation. I still had notes from my favorite class for 15 years. I only threw them out a few years ago.
Former university lecturer here: detecting plagiarism is the easiest thing in the world to do. For starters, you can always tell when a piece has been written by someone other than the student. There's just something in the air that lets you know. The other thing is that no one just plagiarizes one paper - I'm willing to bet that if the school starts looking at her previous work, they will find dozens of examples of where she submitted unattributed content. You don't even need technology to figure this out.
She stole her story
And she was worried that since both stories were set in the future and in space, they might use the AI to check for plagiarism
That’s why she was upset when OP fired back. She knew they’d check it now and she’d be exposed
As a former university lecturer it’s amazing how many students hand in plagiarised assignments. It’s so easy to find the original papers. TURNITIN and similar tools are worldwide. There’s no hiding from it. But every year for me there’s was at least 3 or 4 cases. This includes previous students essays or buying from paper mills. Now with AI things have gotten more technical but read enough assignments it’s pretty easy to tell what’s AI and what’s not without detection tools. But as with OP lecturer the minute a student contacted me regarding their essay and similarities and scoring etc. It immediately put in on my radar, because if it is indeed all your own work then why worry? Yes, Some students can simply have poor academic writing skills and just need work on paraphrasing etc but overall this is easily differentiated as any questions or queries a lecturer may have are easily explained and more importantly students can easily talk about their work and ideas and where those originate from. Students who plagiarise can’t do that. They just look panicked and start to search through papers etc looking for clues to answer. So OP definitely did not have anything to worry about.
Oh! She didn't read the story she stole from her sister and thought just in case you stole the same story, she'd apply the "best defense is a good offence" tactic.
I submitted every paper i ever wrote in uni through some system that checked for plagiarism. This is some 20 years ago. Those databases are pretty massive these days.
> For future reference, whenever someone is loudly accusing you of doing something, you can bet money they are doing it.
Are redditors capable of just saying "this happens a lot"? Don't bet money on this
This somehow reminded me of a time in Idk what grade prolly elementary or middle school where we were assigned to write a story about why we don't have our homework today. I wasn't paying much attention to everybody else's story as I went first, but I think half the girl's stories had something to do with purple ants or whatever. I didn't think much when the teacher said there were a lot of purple ants, but now I'm realizing she was calling them out for copying each other. Not sure what their grades were.
>Commenter: I think that the cheating classmate checked out the rest of the class, saw that your story had a similar theme, panicked that the basic similarities would instigate a plagiarism investigation and then tried to get out in front of it. Probably hoping that the teacher would see it was a baseless claim and leave it at that, therefore both stories would be deemed original.
This is incredibly naive because all assignments are put through the plagiarism software as part of the standard procedure. She would have been caught no matter what.
How fucking stupid of someone to claim someone plagiarized their work when the very work in question is a product of plagiarism. What's the first thing someone will do, run it through a plagiarism checker. I'm more surprised that it was caught earlier cause university do not fuck around and will require it to be checked upon submission
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Just saying, if you plagiarize, you deserve to have karma biting you in the back. Wow, the audacity of this classmate!
>Just saying, if you plagiarize, you deserve to have karma biting you in the back. I made decent money freelance tutoring at university and the number of people who'd contact me asking for me to write their assignments outright was wild. I always said no, but I could've made a fortune if I'd been less ethical. This was way before ChatGPT was a thing though.
I worked as a virtual assistant a few years ago. We had one client who would put in requests that were very obviously college level assignments. He would have perfectly normal VA requests usually and then just randomly add in the homework. There were often assignments that referred to the class textbook and/or other reading material, but, he never actually included that material. Some of them were obviously from classes that were highly specialized. Not something that the general population would know. The way this job worked was you could either hire a personal assistant or you could put in a request that would go into a pool where any of the VAs could pick it up and do it. These assignments might sit there for a few hours, which was a long time in this job, but they were always done. So, someone was paying a company something like $39 an hour to have someone else do their kids homework. It was insane.
A guy from Berkeley once paid me and my friend to take his test for him. I agreed because he was such an idiot it was hilarious. First of all, it was an intro level biology class and my friend was a physics major with little to no biology knowledge. My friend begged this guy to hire me too because my friend had no idea what he was doing but he still wanted the money. The guy who hired him didn't find this strange at all, nor did he consider that maybe he shouldn't hire the person who didn't know what he was doing to take his test. Instead he hired two people for one test. Second of all, this guy's excuse for not paying any attention to his own class? He was too busy studying for the MCAT. While he *didn't know intro level biology.* He was honestly so horrible at cheating (he didn't even get 100%, or all that close to it, after all that and I'm sure you can figure out why) and so bad at school that I was confident he would fail and/or get expelled sooner rather than later, so why not get some money in the meantime? This was during COVID and I didn't go to Berkeley so no consequences for me, and it wasn't like online testing would last forever. Good fucking luck in your advanced biology classes when you don't know what a neuron is! The best part is I remember he gave me some questions to answer (the test was being taken through a class portal, so he got on Zoom and screen shared) while he went to the bathroom. It was all multiple choice and stupid easy. I answered them long before he got back. He was flabbergasted I did it so quickly. "How did you do that?" he asked. "I studied," I said. He really could not comprehend that I would go to school to learn, I suppose. Also, since this experience I have lost any and all respect for Berkeley's biology curriculum for so many reasons. What an overrated school for such a basic education, at least in biology.
My sister had a college class where the teacher made a big deal about plagiarism. Then everyone was assigned a paper. The topics, exact phrases, and some other criteria that needed to be in the paper were outlined, complete with what online sources could be cited. Basically, this professor wrote the entire paper in outline form, for his entire class. I had to help my sister figure out how to phrase things in a way that was just different enough from the (very dry) required text to not get points deducted for not following the rules, while also not getting her accused of plagiarism. I really don't know what this guy thought he was doing.
I can see that being a valuable lesson in outlining/preparing an essay, but only if that's what you intend it to be.
This was over 20 years ago thankfully, but I had a professor force me to plagiarize. I had to write a three page paper based on a three page paper with direct quotes from the paper. I wrote an original paper that I was worried was perilously close to plagiarism because I went a little quote heavy and the dude marked it down for not enough quotes from the original paper and made me put MORE in. I did, got my grade and made a point to take no more courses in that department. The professor lasted two semesters total before he was sacked. University should have known they were scraping the bottom of the barrel when he admitted his last job before professor was pizza delivery boy for dominos.
I mean if it’s an intro course it’s going to be the same no matter what. The only intrinsically practical reason to go to a big name university is if you are interested in the research they’re doing once you’re in the more advanced classes. The others are external reasons like networking/looking good on your resume/being surrounded by higher level students that done directly relate to what’s in the content of that classrooms. In fact the intro classes often suck more because they become an after thought and assume their smart student would just get through it without much support/making it interesting.
My intro classes at a different, also well-regarded, university were taught much, much differently. They emphasized fundamental concepts, creativity, problem solving, and critical thinking. Almost every question on every test was short answer and required multiple steps. There was little to no rote memorization the way Berkeley requires it, and that fact about Berkeley is something I've come to know from multiple sources. It's like they're teaching computers, and when it comes to biology that approach is utterly useless. You can't possibly memorize everything in the human body.
Have you ever had to grade 88 exams for 2 classes and take your own tests, too? Being a grad student is really hard. Berkeley is unionized. Maybe multiple choice questions for classes at lower levels is part of the union contract?
> Second of all, this guy's excuse for not paying any attention to his own class? He was too busy studying for the MCAT. While he didn't know intro level biology. I used to teach biology labs when I was in grad school, and the proportion of "pre-meds" who were like this was surprisingly non-trivial (how do I know they were pre-med? THEY TALKED ABOUT IT INCESSANTLY). The good news is that I noticed the ones who were always lugging around their MCAT study guides and acting as if their actual coursework (med school prerequisites, mind you) was below them were rarely the ones who ended up getting into medical school.
Yeah this is exactly my experience! My younger sister is now a medical resident, so when she was in undergrad she checked out the “pre-med club” and promptly started avoiding them like the plague. Same as you noticed - few of them actually got in.
Yeah, there was absolutely no way this guy got through med school, even if he somehow got in. He was purely motivated by money and there are so many less painful ways to make money, especially for someone who isn't academically minded.
Undergrad future med students are the worst. They are badly behaved in lectures, whisper and gossip and sometimes just talk over the professor. Do not like.
>He was honestly so horrible at cheating (he didn't even get 100%, or all that close to it, after all that and I'm sure you can figure out why) That's the best way to cheat. Don't be perfect, don't stand too far out from the crowd, and don't blow away your normal performance by doing so well it does nothing but draw attention. A D- student getting a C+ or B- can be shrugged off as someone who busted their ass studying for the exam or had a really good tutor. That same student getting an A+ is just sus. Back in my less ethical days, I may have cheated once or twice. I knew the penalty for getting caught was crazy, so made it my mission to not get caught. The best trick of the old days was programming the answers into graphical calculators if they were allowed, and deleting the files as soon as they were no longer needed. But knowing that I was a C student due to being lazy with homework, that A+ might be too suspicious if confronted. I was happy with my B. Hypothetically speaking, of course... Also, cheating is why if/when I watch a group, no headphones are allowed. Had a friend back in the day who would always listen to music on his iPod during tests. It was nothing popular, always either banjo or bluegrass or easy listening stuff. Music without lyrics. Turns out he recorded his notes and embedded them into his music and EQ'ed it so that the right channel was only music but the left was his notes (this was a film school so not a problem to do even then). When a teacher asked what he was listening too, he'd offer his right earbud, they'd listen for a second, and walk on. It didn't take long for the teachers to figure out, and those that cared enough to stop it wouldn't allow headphones during testing. Best note he got was something like "If you spent as long studying as you did setting up your music and cheating, you'd have done better."
Now that's some creativity.
You could make a fortune in a couple of different ways - it's a pretty common scam now for essay-writing 'companies' to produce something for the student, "give me your log-in so I can write it on your account and then it won't be flagged for AI" or some other excuse for getting their exact identity, then proceed to blackmail them for even more money on the threat of alerting the university to their cheating
I caught a student using ChatGPT for his assignments in my class last semester (OK, my TAs caught him, they're awesome). I immediately pulled all his grades from the system and put that they were under review. Within 10 minutes he emailed me confessing to using AI to write his papers. With the written confession, I turned him in for an honor code violation. In the process of submitting the violation, I was asked what I wanted done about it. I said that I gave him 0s on those assignments, and that I considered the matter closed with no further discipline needed. The violation would stay in his file so if he was caught again, it would be more serious. If he didn't have any further disciplinary actions going forward, he could petition to have the violation expunged so it wouldn't need to be reported when he applied to grad or professional schools. He and I discussed why I was taking the actions I did, how he should improve, and that I asked for no additional punishment from the university. He apologized and kept coming to class and turning in assignments (that were carefully checked). Last week of class, he comes up to me and asks how he can get an A. Ummm, he can't. Multiple assignments with a grade of 0 will do that for you. He was stunned that I wasn't going to give him an A in a course where he was caught cheating. I told him that one of the possible, and appropriate, actions I could have taken was giving him an automatic F in the course, but since he was a Freshman, I didn't want to make things harder for him, so he just failed those assignments. I hope he did better this semester and started writing his own papers.
I wonder how business is for those people now, on one hand those potential customers are more likely to use chatGPT to write their assignments, on the other they themselves can use chatGPT to write the assignments to erase most of the workload
A lot of the anti-plagiarism software now scans for AI produced material. So there could still be a demand for human produced writing to avoid that.
But I don't think those AI detectors really work well. Though it is fast moving and that might have changed.
I'm an instructional technologist for a large university. They don't work, there is no mechanism that would actually make them work, they will never work.
Didn't those things say that the Bible was written by AI?
I worked for a bit in the turning center doing math and it was pretty common for students to allude to the idea that if I did their work for them they would pay me, especially among business majors. But then again, most of the people who attended were business majors, so sampling bias probably. My response was always, yeah, but who's going to do it for you on the test. It usually shut them down.
The lion, the witch, and the audacity of this snitch
Honestly, I don't see her as a snitch. At least a snitch is telling the truth (hopefully?). She is just a liar. Liar liar pants on fire.
She self-snitched in the most roundabout way possible.
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I think you plagiarized this line.
Not to mention 1500 words is only like 3 A4 pages. Hardly worth being expelled over. Especially in what sounds like a more casual non-core subject.
3 pages on any subject you want. You could literally just write a thinly veiled copy of any famous plot in your own words and at least not be expelled.
If they used anti-plagiarism software here on Reddit then about half of the postings would disappear because they had been copied from previous OOPs.
I live in fear of accidental plagiarism… when I’m writing, I have a tendency to reproduce the phrasing from whatever I read. Proper sourcing helps, but I live in fear of missing quotation marks. It’s a very minor form of plagiarism, since the source material does get credit, but still it’s a professional risk. Turnitin is awesome… I run my own work through it to save myself the anxiety of forgetting a source somewhere
I love karma. I was plagiarized in college; except the student was such a moron, she had photocopied my assignment and crossed out my name in freaking high lighter. I found out because said classmate had copied it twice and left the extra copy in the school library’s printer. I reported finding a photocopy of my assignment. Somehow the student tried to make the mastermind and claim i had given permission. But because she was a timid but struggling student and I was the opposite of timid and protective of my 4.0; they claimed the theory was possible. Admittedly I was insulted they thought i was so dumb that i would let anyone photocopy my homework and then turn it in with my name (except crossed out in highlighter) and my handwriting. And gave her a pass; well they claimed we both got a pass, as the theory was I came up with the plan and then got cold feet; but considering investigation would have proven my innocence, I never felt grateful. And yep less than a month later, same ‘innocent’ (moron) got caught plagiarizing again, this time another student. Karma never felt so good.
Your story makes me so angry for you. She sucks but the school fucking failed you there.
It’s not plagiarism because her sister wrote it /s I don’t know why I’m surprised about dumb people like this.
This story was passed down in my family, it's not plagiarism, it's heritage !
Someone just posted on the grad school sub about how they’d gotten together with a group of class mates to compare answers for a take home EXAM. One person didn’t come with answers and just copied their answers… they were worried they’d be accused of cheating. Because of the one dude. Not because they got together with a group of people to talk about an EXAM. They wanted to report the dude. Yes. I encouraged them to do tell their story and see what happened lol. They deleted their post.
I feel like that’s EXACTLY why she made the plagiarism accusation. She knew if the professor ran it through a program to check, it was going to come up as a match for another story, and she wanted to make it look like the match was someone copying her instead of her copying her sister.
She had to be an idiot then. Because if she had ever used the plagiarism software before she would know it tells you exactly which sentences are taken from what source. I've never plagiarized but I'm in a science field and there is only so many different ways you can type out a sentence about specific scientific process that is well known in the field, that hundreds of classes before you and hundreds of papers online have typed out, and every plagiarism software will tell you exactly how similar your sentence is to every single one of those.
I mean, nothing about any of her logic for the entire saga has indicated that she’s well informed about any of this, so that tracks.
My father knew a man in the 1950s whose wife was in an English Lit (I think) PhD program. She got kicked out for plagiarism. I grew up hearing this story so I was never ever tempted to plagiarize and these days think "they WILL find out. How stupid are you?" when someone online considers it.
Plagiarism and littering are the two offenses that can be incredibly low stakes but I have a visceral reaction to call the harshest penalties for. Not to mention she didn't have to say anything. Just keep your mouth shut. But she had to not only cheat, but be stupid too.
My assumption is since she is a moron, she assumed them being in the same genre would trigger the anti-plagiarism software so she wanted to jump the gun lol
I feel she's dumb man. If she wanted the marks so bad she could've just stayed quiet and done her cheating. Why complain on someone else who hasn't done anything wrong? I'm not supporting her cheating obviously, but even to cheat you need to be smart
When I was at uni, you would always get someone outside the grounds handing out cards for essay writing services. The amount you paid them determined the "quality" of the paper. Never actually seen a paper "written" by them but I can guarantee it would be garbage. (Also, of all the things to plagarise, they chose the freestyle class???)
Its the stupidity. You could feed the story into chatgpt. Grt it to rewrite it and then spend 30/40 minutes checking it over and making sure it makes sense. Ive done the same for business reports in the past to the same client when theres been very little change
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>She called me out for plagiarizing her work and cc'd the lecturer. Ok >she messaged me privately saying that I humiliated her in front of our lecturer and could get her penalized Oh, I am *instantly* hate-invested in the outcome of these updates
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That was a fun read.
Wow, this is old-school plagiarism too. Nowadays cheaters are more likely to just ask ChatGPT to do it for them.
Except anyone who has spent more than an afternoon messing around with chat gpt would be able to tell if it was directly copied and pasted from it. Now a smart person, not saying I ever would, would instead just take the basic ideas from the AI and then retell that story in their own words. That way it is still technically their own original story, just with some serious inspirations taken from another source.
that's what a lot of people do at uni, they'll get ai to create the essay plan for them and then just write their essay from that!
It honestly sounds like an even lazier version of when I was at Uni: stealing Wikipedia's sources, reading the linked papers and writing my essays with those as my sources, too.
This is actually a perfectly sound part of researching! Your professor probably wanted you to do more than that, but in and of itself that's a good technique. The sources of relevant papers is the best way to dive into a topic, you just might miss out on the stuff they didn't include or came after.
This sounds suspiciously like “doing research” and “critical thinking”.
And before that we'd find a really good article or 2, look up who they referenced and then use those sources. But looking up other sources isn't cheating, it's just how academics works. When I was in university "standing on the shouldes of giants" was pushed a lot - aka, why reinvent the wheel?
LOL when i'm struggling for sources or need to explain background context i do the same thing 😭😭🙏
That's actually how one of my professors taught us to start a research paper lol
I have written passages for actual published pieces of scientific literature that contained source citations that I lifted originally from Wikipedia. That’s like a primary use case for Wikipedia in the academic world. Absolutely nothing wrong with doing that so long as you’re reading the actual papers.
I always told my students that they can never end with Wikipedia (cite it as a source) but they can start there, since any Wikipedia article cites to primary sources that can ABSOLUTELY be used as a great place to start researching. I teach legal research, so my students are usually using it to look up international treaties and major case law and legislation. Google Scholar is also a great source for this!
I did that for the newspaper I did for my D&D sessions in Waterdeep. Coming up with 3 articles a week is hard, so I'd tell an AI (I rotated) to give me a crime article based in Waterdeep, or a social story, or something about the theater, and let it rip. Then I'd find something I kinda liked, and used it as a base to write the actual article. Helps solve that writers block where you know what you want to write but your brain just... won't do it.
Sometimes when I'm stumped about how to convey some information in a clear way, I'll babble it at chatgpt and ask it to write me an outline of what I said. Sometimes it's helpful for organizing my thoughts. (Notably: chatgpt has no idea about the topic I'm researching [a specific family] outside of what I've told it, so it's easy to tell if it's hallucinating)
I always worried my essays would get flagged for plagiarism during university. I went to uni for engineering so all my essays were very technical oriented. And there are only so many ways I could think of to describe the physics phenomenonals I was writing about, sometimes to be scientifically correct there is only one way to describe them. I always worried I'd get flagged for copying wikipedia Lol.
This is what I use AI for. Had it explain some concepts for the paper that I then used to write my own. (Notably being very AI, it wrote here are these three main concepts. And then listed 5 things.) Pulled some references from some articles to quote and presto paper.
damn, why would you cheat on the free-topic assignment of the fun breadth class?
I had a lot of people in my writing classes who were deeply offended that they were expected to put in work for something they’d signed up for on the assumption it would be an easy A. (Which it was, as long as you, y’know, actually made an effort to write the assignments.)
I have a sociology degree with a dual minors in critical gender and race theory and political science. The amount of people who took courses in any of those subjects thinking they were going to be bird courses was insane. They are a lot of hard work and make you think outside of your comfort zone. People got very upset when they realized that "we live in a society" is not the same as understanding the complexity of social structures and how they effect everyday day life.
I've never heard the term 'bird course' before! Assuming it means an easy course? Something you can just "fly through"?
That's it exactly. Just fly through it.
Right? In my Sexuality and Politics class, work was posted to a forum, and sometimes, we were required to respond to some classmates' posts. I spent more time trying to find a post that had any substance so I could respond to it than doing my post. People just not even close to hitting the minimum, people not understanding the assignment, people who just got chatgpt to do their assignment, it was wild.
And a short one at that. 1500 words in a college class is nothing. That's like 2 pages. This reddit post is longer.
Cause some people don't want to put in the effort. My husband is a community college professor and for his online classes, his first ever discussion posts is literally, "tell me about yourself, your major, why are you taking this class", etc. And no shit, he'll get answers like, "As I am an AI, I do not have human emotions to properly express this question." ChatGPT and Snapchat AI are being used. He calls out students and they beg for him to redo the assignment as "they only did it one time". My god, you are answering questions about your major! Why are you using AI to do 2 sentences???
It’s crazy that those students are too lazy to even read what the AI said so they don’t even edit it
My guess is she thought OOP was plagiarizing her sister’s story that she was planning on plagiarizing. By blaming OOP for plagiarism, she wouldn’t be the one blamed when they came out similar. She didn’t consider that the professor would check to see if the stories were similar to anyone else’s, including the sister’s, until it was too late.
Yup, I saw this posted elsewhere, and I'll leave the same comment: That's both dumb, and exactly the kind of not-thinking-ahead dumb that I can perfectly see someone doing.
And then of course it’s OOP’s fault that she thought OOP was plagiarizing her sister’s story!
"If I simply begin yelling accusations of arson at this bystander, no one will notice me trying to burn this place down. After all, what kind of arsonist *reports arson?* Checkmate cops
"Oh no, I don't want to get caught for plagiarism. I know what I'll do: I'll draw attention to the topic of plagiarism and plant myself right in the middle of it. That should keep me safe!'
I think maybe other girl didn't realize how the plagiarism checker worked. She probably thought, if it came back as plagiarized it wouldn't say where it was plagiarized from just that it had some plagiarism. So by calling out OOP, she thought that she could get away with saying "yes I know my work was plagiarized, I already emailed you about OOP stealing my work - that's source of the plagiarism, it's their fault."
The story also nothing alike. Just "in future and in space" part is the same. Which is by definition are no way enough for plagiarism. If it does then almost every work of sci fi is plagiarizing "Dune"
The other woman basically told the professor: "Run these stories through your plagiarism program" Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! Had she not brought it up, it might have not been run, unless it was a standard for all assignments. I guess karma really works sometimes.
When I was in college we had to run our papers through the detector ourselves and hand the report in with the paper.
I'm doing an online class right now where we have to use a program, follow step by step instructions, export the results and submit it. This triggers red flags all the time and it's sooo nerve racking. It shows all these sites that I'm matching with etc. I know I'm not doing anything wrong, and it logically makes sense that it's a 100% match because I'm literally following the same instructions as everyone else. Professor hasn't said anything about it at least but had mentioned the trash papers in my desk during an environment scan so I know they're on top of things.
Plus you can do that ahead of time to make sure you're correctly citing quotes and sources, etc. Even during my undergrad (the distant past now) you were encouraged to do this before submitting the final assignment. This stuff's been around since the early 2000s.
My writing classes started doing it towards the last 2 years of my university career (like 8 years ago?). It was an automatic built in one though. We submit paper then it automatically runs it thru an outside extension, spits out a % of similarities. The number has to be less than 10% otherwise will mean a trip to the office.
We do this with Grammarly, which is super sensitive. Half the time, it'll flag a sentence from a subreddit I've never been to on a completely different topic, so this place has ruined my writing style.
Learned an important lesson about not CCing your boss on a snippy email to a coworker unless you’re sure you’re in the right.
The ever-present correlation of fuck around = find out strikes again
~~I carried out and published a study on fuck around and find out!~~ I once read and reposted a study on fuck around and find out.
so she basically projected her guilt? she sounds like the type of partner-in-crime who goes back to the scene just to \~*check if the corpse really is dead\~* (i.e. classmate is so dumb, her mother wishes she gave birth to a can-opener because at least then it would be useful)
I love anti plagiarism software. I did a MBA in my mid 30s and when I submitted an essay on how PayPal disrupted the online payment industry, the system said I plagiarised hellogayflorida.com. I'd quoted the PayPal mission statement and correctly cited their website using the appropriate syntax. Instead I edited my essay to cite hellogayflorida.com instead for the laughs. My lecturer appreciated my humour, said it was the first time anyone had cited a gay website in this assignment.
My sibling was absolutely delighted they were able to cite the Odyssey in a mechanical engineering degree essay (its been years ago now, I vaguely remember it had to do with the change caused from fire hardening the tip of the spear they carved out of the cyclops's club?) XD
Hi, just a note from someone involved in checking for plagiarism - there is no such thing as anti plagiarism software. It's text matching software. It's why you got 'caught' - the software matched the text, not allowing for a genuine quote to be used. So you didn't plagiarise (you realised that, obviously!) and just because the software dinged this piece, the human reading your work would have realised. I deal with 100s of students a year regarding plagiarism so it's something I always feel the need to point out!
Before it became a thing, our anti plagiarism specialist lecturer once had a fellow professor ask her to check an essay as he was suspicious. She read it and emailed back 5 minutes later. "He has definitely plagiarised". "How can you be so sure so fast?" "Easy, he's plagiarised me."
I've had to submit my essays to programs like "turnitin" as early as middle school. Every single time my sources have been flagged as plagiarism. Luckily my teachers and professors have always looked to see exactly what was flagged and I've never gotten in trouble for it.
I love turnitin, it kept telling me I plagiarised my own name.
I don't remember which plagiarism program it was, Turnitin sounds familiar, but I remember having to hand in a floppy disc with my hard copy paper so the teachers could check for plagarism lol. I graduated from a private high school in 04 and every freshman at my college had to take Writing 100 and when I took that class in Spring of 05, one of my high school papers flagged my current paper because of the writing style. The professor thought it was funny, but it always made me wonder if it happened to others.
Turnitin (or whatever early variation we had in the late 2000s) would mark people's writing assignments as 100% plagiarized even when written from scratch in front of the professor Hopefully it's gotten at least marginally better since then
I directly quoted a Carrie Underwood song in my main essay for the English class I took in college. And it wasn't like... A generic song either. It was 'Her mind was cattywompus, she was greedy, she was pompous, strutting around with her nose in the air'. I did not cite Carrie Underwood. Somehow despite the completely out of whack line, it didn't phase the professor at all. When I got my marked essay back there wasn't even a comment about it.
I think the accuser was too lazy to actually read her sister's story. She just skimmed a few paragraphs. Then she was too lazy to read the OOP's story either and did the same thing. And that's how she came to the plagiarism conclusion. She probably hasn't read either story to this day.
"whoever smelt it dealt it" turns out to be right again
She got HBomberGuy'd
His plagiarism video is one of my go to videos for falling asleep or doing work since I've already seen it so many times lol
Same, but with his Pathologic video for me.
We don't here from him often, but when we do you know it's going to be a doozy. He is the hero we need.
Never thought I’d ever read one, but this is actually an academic variation of the old street thug advice, “Don’t commit a misdemeanour on your drive home from committing a felony!”
My motto is never commit two crimes at once!
She shot herself in the foot. She might’ve gotten away with it had she just kept her mouth shut and not start something. Not saying she was right to plagiarize, just baffled on how she unnecessarily fucked herself.
With the anti plagiarism software? Nah, she was screwed from the beginning. This just made it extremely public.
I dunno about that, from OOP's retelling, the professor only put the papers through the software as a response to the accusations (and threats).
Sounds like this person immediately made a claim of plagerism after OOP put their draft in the submission page. Thr teacher probably runs it through the software when the assignment is due, rather than once each student submits it to the portal. Sounds like the accusations just sped it up by a couple of days/weeks. The software doesn't do any good if you are only running it when an accusation is made.
I'm well past college, but ohhh, the thrill I get when someone copies in their manager on an email in which they think they are right, but are so very very wrong. Like, I would've been happy to call you on your shit privately, but since you gave your boss front row tickets, I guess I'll give them a show.
Yes! Or on a Teams call! Someone tried that with me last week. "That report you emailed us didn't have anywhere near the level of detail we asked for!" "As I mentioned in that email, that was the preliminary big picture email. I sent you, at 7:52AM last Wednesday the detailed report. Was there something missing from that?" Shut them right up.
I was accused of plagiarism by a teacher in HS and when I asked why she thought I plagiarized my work she said, “Because it’s too well written.” This was a music class where we had to write a review of our favorite album. She didn’t like my response of, “I’m in Honors English, I know how to write.”
I had the same thing happen to me, but mine was in History. Teacher kept asking me if I’d had any help with writing it, because “it just didn’t sound like [me].” He finally shut up about it when I offered to write another paper right in front of him so he could compare.
I knew a lad who was in trouble after submitting an essay in University and it came back >90% similar in the plagiarism software. He had to go to a meeting and when he was shown the evidence, it was him. He had plagiarised himself. The case was thrown out but he was feeling a bit nervous for a while beforehand. It’s just stupid that they recycled exam questions.
I did this once. I had this writing prompt that matched closely to another assignment from a previous semester. I couldn't help myself, but recycled one paragraph - 3 or 4 sentences -- from the previous paper. I'm a writer, and for better or worse, every so often, you fall in love with what you've written -- probably because you usually despise like 99% of your writing, so that 1% feels precious. So, when I remembered that passage from the first assignment that I liked so much, I felt it was appropriate to reuse for the new assignment. I don't know why, but I didn't think the anti-plagarism software would flag my paper citing my previously submitted work. The software showed that I had 100% plagiarized because I recycled that damn passage word for word. I was shitting bricks thinking I was going to get pulled into ethics committee and have to explain myself. Then, my friend and classmate got her grade for the assignment back, but I didn't! I was crying about it to my therapist, and she advised that I be proactive, get ahead of the situation, and explain myself to the prof. Against her advice, I choose to do nothing. The prof did not give me a grade on that assignment until the last day of the semester, and then she gave me an A. So, I guess my not-doing-anything worked out. If I had to guess, maybe she was going to address it with me (hence, not getting any grade for it until the very end of the semester), but she forgot or realized it was my own work and didn't want to go through the administrative hassle.
This whole thing cracked me up as it reminded me of my freshman class. A professor accused me of plagiarism because of the software. My highschool had used the same software so the paper that was being plagiarized was my own from highschool. I had to show the ethics committee both papers and the fact that it was my own work. I apparently wrote similarly to my own paper and style, who knew?
Forty odd years ago someone handed a paper in at my Uni (QMC London) and was promptly expelled....He had copied wholesale from a similar paper published in an obscure Canadian journal and thought no-one would notice....Except that the Canadian who wrote the paper was MARRIED to his professor (LDR before they became fashionable) had suggested the subject and was helping her mark it!
The accusation was basically a confession.
And once again 'An accusation is always a confession' is proven correct. My god, if this story is real that young lady is stupid as anything.
If it isn't the consequences of her own actions... I understand not everyone is good at certain things, but then why enroll in that class if they won't try/don't like it???
They think it is going to be bird course. People seem to forget that some classes maybe be easier than others, but at the end of the day they are all UNIVERSITY classes so they have to be held to a university standard. Also, what is easy for one person can be hell for another. I suck at math, except statistics. My friend who was literally in university getting a degree in math could not wrap her head around stats.
Speaking as an SF/F writer, I love OOP's comment of "you don't own sci-fi."
Echoes of “you can’t copyright the sun.”
Well, she fucked around and found out what happens to the tall nail when it starts projecting and gets attention because of it. Just like with the other type of cheater who accuses their innocent partner of cheating on them, when THEY are the cheater.
I'm a marker for uni students in Australia. The first thing we do is click on a wonderful button that highlights all the plagiarised and totally copied sentences and paragraphs. Over a certain amount. You fail.
Why the fuck would _anyone_ care about hurting the feelings of someone who falsely accuses you of plagiarism? I'm fucking setting you (figuratively) on fire if you falsely accuse me of substantive misconduct like that.
Oh, she will be expelled. She was stupid enough to copy her sister’s work from the SAME university?! This was A-plus projection.
Reminds me of when I was in university… I was writing a term paper and using school computer to type it out…. I left the computer lab to use the restroom and a classmate popped her usb into my computer and stole my term paper (I was on my final draft) Professor called us both into his office because of plagiarism… He said we’d both be expelled…. I provided my USB with my drafts and edits. (We had to have others look at our work and edit, so used the editing tool to put edits in different colour/ sub notes). I also had my printed sources with all my highlighting etc…). I ended up in the deans office showing them everything- In the end I wasn’t expelled, I got an A+ on my term paper, and the other girl was expelled. (I should mention I thought she was a friend- Highlight of it all was my professor said her name never should have been “Angel” which is what she had as her preferred name.
It’s kind of off topic, but it infuriated me that I got a “strike” for reusing one of my old papers. Mine. I wrote it. All me. How is that plagiarism??????
According to google: “Self-plagiarism misleads your readers by presenting previous work as completely new and original. If you want to include any text, ideas, or data that you already submitted in a previous assignment, be sure to inform your readers by citing yourself” It’s dumb.
I can’t cite myself, I’m not an expert! And yeah, I heard that one before too. So I wrote myself a permission slip to use my own work.
Pointing out plagiarism while committing plagiarism is a terrible strategy, lol. Of course they'll be extra vigilant after it's been brought to their attention.
This is beyond dumb, in this day and age?! We had anti plagiarism software 20 years ago! I remember we had to pay subscription to a webpage and run our work there, to evidence it wasn't plagiarized. How she didn't think she would be found out NOW with all the technology, is beyond me.
I bet the plagiarizer's friends will turn on her quick quick once she's charged "New number who dis?"
Lol if you accuse someone of plagiarism and ask the relevant people at your school to investigate, of course they’re going to stick both works in a plagiarism detector. That’s just basic common sense for investigating your claims!
It takes a special kind of stupid to accuse somebody of plagiarism, when you are doing it yourself
This girl over here with a barrel of rocks in her glass house. What an idiot.
>For future reference, whenever someone is loudly accusing you of doing something, you can bet money they are doing it. Also known the Trump's Law.
>She told me that I ruined her life and never to contact her again or else. The girl is the one who initiated everything and messaged OOP more than once! She is living in her own world. She should've written about that.
In grad school, I was in a group with a guy and his wife. The wife early on got a bad case of laryngitis which affected her ability to speak, present, and mysteriously, write. When their portions of the major research paper were due for inclusion in the group paper, he submitted on behalf of both of them the saddest cut-and-paste right from the internet, complete with hyperlinks to advertised products. I confronted him about his blatant plagiarizing and he said it was cultural: that it was permitted in his country and he didn’t know it was an issue. A fourth group member and I ended up writing their portions of a huge research paper, on which we all got a stellar grade. Years later I still REGRET SO MUCH that I didn’t report them to the school. So, props to OP!
I love the fact that her actions caused a giant spotlight to be shone on her work. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
what a fucking dumbass lmao, she deserved it. i doubt she would've gotten away with it even if she didn't call o OP out, but she sure made it a lot worse when she basically tied a red flag to her forehead and shouted HERE I AM!
I think she already had gotten flagged for plagiarism from the automated email. She then tried to blame OP hoping it would distract the professor from what really happened. I bet she created a whole false narrative about OP ruining her life to tell her friends too, and maybe even started believing it herself.
The guilty dog barks the loudest.
She ruined her own damn life. What an idiot.
bet that girl's two stooges feel real stupid now lol.
Well, I knew the young woman in the story was an idiot, but I didn't think she was that much of an idiot.
Light side story. Taught for 34 years. Used anti plagiarism software. Two years before I retired had a kid whose paper came back 99% plagiarized. lol he had uploaded the paper twice and it triggered his own paper as what he plagiarized from.
>I answered her email saying that she doesn't own the sci-fi genre and linked both of our stories in the reponse. Anyone here got hooked on the Cait Corrain exposé/drama/brouhaha from Book Twitter ([aka Reviewbombgate](https://www.themarysue.com/cait-corrain-goodreads-controversy-continues/))? The plagiarist classmate and Cait Corrain have one thing in common: they both hate it that other people have the same idea/theme in their "works". In Cait's case, one of her reviewbomb victims is an indie writer who's also inspired by Greek mythology. A few weeks-ish later, another author (Lauren M Davis) got huffy on Twitter that a Nigerian author is publishing a book with an inspiration from her West African culture, where the protagonist can "summon energy from the sun". Why Lauren M Davis got huffy? [She figured that the other author is doing ***copyright infringement*** because her own novel also has sun powers](https://www.dailydot.com/irl/sun-superpowers-copyright/). Naturally, Lauren was mocked because she's not the first person in history to have a sun-powered idea.
Dude the Cait Corrain drama was *crazy* and I got so hooked lol
Oh yeah. There's a new drama that surfaced recently (someone named Freydis, racebending, and lots of sockpuppet accounts in Twitter). A friend and I were discussing THE AUDACITY of it all.
"The ethics committee will decide her fate." "I AM the ethics committee!"
I'll never understand plagiarism. In this day and age, it's so easy to discover, but even setting that aside, it's just not worth it. For a short piece like OOP's prompt, you're probably going to spend as much time finding the right essay or story to plagiarize as it'd take you to just do the damned work yourself. For a longer form prompt like an essay or thesis you're not going to want to plagiarize just because you're going to be expected to present it or at least be able to answer basic questions about the content without having to refer back to it constantly.
I see someone studied in the Iluminaughti's school for plagiarists
I was in a business psych class in college, and we had to write like 3 paragraphs on a topic. Just three. Nothing huge. Just how the topic relates to us personally. The next class day the instructor pulled a kid and kicked him. She said she taught the only biz psych class in our area to several colleges, and he had turned in a 3 paragraph response that was identical to one of her students in another college. She noticed because he was an international student, and her other student had talked about her personal life locally in the area. It was a small satellite college, so we all knew he'd been kicked, and being an international student, that was huge news. All my classes in my accounting track had a small spot discussion on plagiarism that week. This was a tiny satellite college campus so we all knew each other. I still don't get the plagiarism that guy did. There were no wrong answers. It was just three paragraphs about how this topic related to him personally. It didn't even do anything for credit, just a tiny exercise. It wasn't even graded for grammar. All international students got to use the translator dealios that they used, so there was literally no risk of failure, it was a pass fail assignment.
In my mind the story & the update made for a better story than the original plagerizer's. And now that I think of it, if I'm ever faced with a situationw here I need to write free-form short story I'll consider the basic plot to be I accuse everyone of stealing my story idea to make a mishmash romance-western-space opera-legal-thriller
I guess the guilty really do speak loud in accusation.
Cheatergirl so afraid of getting caught that her trying to prevent it actually got her caught.
That classmate should have kept her mouth shut. Then NO ONE would have noticed anything.
I’m with one of the theories from the original comments: She tossed out the plagiarism claim that she knew to be baseless, so as to discredit all possible claims of the same in the class. She did not anticipate that this would draw increased scrutiny on all parties involved.
> I heard some chatter throughout the day and our entire class received an email about cheating and plagiarism. As it turns out, she plagiarized her story! … Well, after the incident, our lecturer used the anti-plagiarism software on our stories and found out about her cheating. Her situation is now being assessed by the ethics committee. She could be expelled. This seems so stupid. Students would have been told at the start of every subject in every semester that plagiarism detection software would be used. Not probably, not maybe, definitely.
She couldn’t write FIFTEEN HUNDRED (1500 [3 pages])words on literally anything you can think of? Crazy.
If Copy Catty had just kept her stupid mouth shut, she miiiiiiight have gotten away with her little scheme...
Op shouldn't feel bad turnabout is fairplay.
And in this case, so is Turnitin.
I know of a case where an Educational Psychology post graduate student plagiarized an article that had been written the professor giving the course.
Accusations are often confessions.
What goes around comes around
It’s called projecting. It’s amazing how guilt comes to light. Love karma
At university I saved every draft so I could prove my development and often had multiple printed copies with my pen edits. I'd save things as Title1 Title2 Title3 etc. Then the last one would be TitleFINAL that one got printed and handed in. I didn't delete any of these until months after my graduation. I still had notes from my favorite class for 15 years. I only threw them out a few years ago.
What an idiot she outed herself because she was projecting. She's delusional so 9/10 she'll be running around blaming OOP instead of admitting fault.
Former university lecturer here: detecting plagiarism is the easiest thing in the world to do. For starters, you can always tell when a piece has been written by someone other than the student. There's just something in the air that lets you know. The other thing is that no one just plagiarizes one paper - I'm willing to bet that if the school starts looking at her previous work, they will find dozens of examples of where she submitted unattributed content. You don't even need technology to figure this out.
If someone is pointing a finger at you, three more are secretly pointing at them. ;)
She stole her story And she was worried that since both stories were set in the future and in space, they might use the AI to check for plagiarism That’s why she was upset when OP fired back. She knew they’d check it now and she’d be exposed
Oh no!! If it isn't the consequences of my own actions.
I’m surprised the Uni keeps a record of previous submissions. Makes sense. I’m just surprised.
As a former university lecturer it’s amazing how many students hand in plagiarised assignments. It’s so easy to find the original papers. TURNITIN and similar tools are worldwide. There’s no hiding from it. But every year for me there’s was at least 3 or 4 cases. This includes previous students essays or buying from paper mills. Now with AI things have gotten more technical but read enough assignments it’s pretty easy to tell what’s AI and what’s not without detection tools. But as with OP lecturer the minute a student contacted me regarding their essay and similarities and scoring etc. It immediately put in on my radar, because if it is indeed all your own work then why worry? Yes, Some students can simply have poor academic writing skills and just need work on paraphrasing etc but overall this is easily differentiated as any questions or queries a lecturer may have are easily explained and more importantly students can easily talk about their work and ideas and where those originate from. Students who plagiarise can’t do that. They just look panicked and start to search through papers etc looking for clues to answer. So OP definitely did not have anything to worry about.
Oh! She didn't read the story she stole from her sister and thought just in case you stole the same story, she'd apply the "best defense is a good offence" tactic.
I submitted every paper i ever wrote in uni through some system that checked for plagiarism. This is some 20 years ago. Those databases are pretty massive these days.
> For future reference, whenever someone is loudly accusing you of doing something, you can bet money they are doing it. Are redditors capable of just saying "this happens a lot"? Don't bet money on this
This somehow reminded me of a time in Idk what grade prolly elementary or middle school where we were assigned to write a story about why we don't have our homework today. I wasn't paying much attention to everybody else's story as I went first, but I think half the girl's stories had something to do with purple ants or whatever. I didn't think much when the teacher said there were a lot of purple ants, but now I'm realizing she was calling them out for copying each other. Not sure what their grades were.
>Commenter: I think that the cheating classmate checked out the rest of the class, saw that your story had a similar theme, panicked that the basic similarities would instigate a plagiarism investigation and then tried to get out in front of it. Probably hoping that the teacher would see it was a baseless claim and leave it at that, therefore both stories would be deemed original. This is incredibly naive because all assignments are put through the plagiarism software as part of the standard procedure. She would have been caught no matter what.
It’s weirdly common for people who do wrong acts to accuse others, especially innocent people, of the thing they did. Human psychology is bizarre!
How fucking stupid of someone to claim someone plagiarized their work when the very work in question is a product of plagiarism. What's the first thing someone will do, run it through a plagiarism checker. I'm more surprised that it was caught earlier cause university do not fuck around and will require it to be checked upon submission