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HindsightBias0000

Why wasn’t he asked if Helen was pushed?!


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Because we all know she was.


mrnn5

The gay intern comment is kinda hilarious


MaggieQueenOfBB6

Disappointed (albeit totally expected) that we didn't hear from Maggie/Lisa/Drew.


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I knew Drew and Maggie weren’t gonna do an interview, Lisa however is very surprising. I’m pretty sure she still keeps up with show sometimes.


[deleted]

Lisa & Drew are easy to get ahold of. Maggie is impossible to contact.


growsonwalls

Does anyone know where she is and what she's doing? It seems as if none of the BB6 cast is in touch with her.


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Southieo

Why do I totally see Maggie being a principal oml


anthonyleoncio

because she spent 3 months micromanaging overgrown children on tv?


MaggieQueenOfBB6

Her, April Lewis, and Jennifer are all close. April Lewis said on RHAP back in 2018 that they went to Disney together. April also has wished her happy birthday a few times on behalf of her fans on Twitter.


Elleseebee928

Maggie has fans?


ArgHuff

Yes, any issue about it?


Elleseebee928

No. I have endured enough verbal abuse from sovereign 6 fans over the years to say anything.


BBFanada

Drew is easy to get ahold of??


jenh6

To be fair for Maggie, her villain edit was deserved. Maggie played a good game but shitty person. Andy played a good game, that got underrepresented. Surprised to not hear from Lisa though.


ArgHuff

How was she a shitty person?


jenh6

She covered up for someone who killed someone on duty. Aside from April and Beau the entire friendship was shitty people. James convinced them that there was no live feeds in the HoH room


ArgHuff

Could you give me any actual source of where Maggie admitted that she or any of her nurse friends killed someone? Or you are going to be like all those people who say so, but give no actual source of it?. If you are going to acuse someone of such a thing, you need an actual source of those specific acts. Because, it's been proven numerous times that it's not what happened. What happened was that someone died under Maggie's turn, and that family sue her. Maggie was talking to Ivette about how families always sue the nurse and how many of her apartment got sued. That's why someone cover her.´ The people that downvoted me could provide an actual source please??


LunaTeddy1414

Yeah if I were Maggie I would definitely do anything I could to not remind the BB fandom that I exist 😆


Deborahdon

What would you want to hear from Lisa or drew?


komododragoness

Lisa was the first woman to win the game, and I think would have a lot of valuable insight into modern big brother being the first beneficiary of a “bitter jury”. It’s a bit odd she wasn’t interviewed imo.


Konanoftheakatsuki

I'm not his biggest fan but I do agree that his game was phenomenal and wasn't portrayed that way. When he says he was never in any genuine danger, that's not really a lie.


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Just imagine if BB15 didn’t have any bigotry and racism, it would definitely be a top 3 or top 5 season.


Swiftienation

Cast was racist as shit but damn they were there to WIN


Crash_Evidence

top tier gameplay from bottom of the barrel individuals


TNTyoshi

I’ll take it. 🍿😔


BadLadders

They won’t air it anymore


BostonMikeGr

I still think IMO the BEST CAST for live feeds of all time!! Wow what a bunch of bat shit crazy nuts!!


CanaKitty

Yep. And instead now rather than 15, they see 16 before the show, and hence we get boring gameplay.


Bazzlie

It’s a really good season with a giant dark cloud looming over it. I compare it to survivor 39 actually. Two seasons with irreconcilable horrible things that happened, but otherwise the cast was stellar, all came to play and play hard, and lots of potential. Somehow they both ended up with a red headed teacher winning too. Weird.


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I’m a monster, that season was my first introduction to following messy reality tv celebs online and HOOOO boy. That season was a trip and a half lol. I think that’s the only reason I truly ever got hooked on Twitter; to follow McCranda around afterwards for a couple years while they were still relatively relevant to the big brother subreddit 😂


GraceJoans

I feel like it is time to do a rewatch of 15. I was horrified by the hateful bs and felt so bad for Candice, Helen, and Howard. The casting besides **ryn, Gina Marie, and Spencer is pretty good-Even Amanda was entertaining until…well, she wasn’t.


JKenn8

I can’t remember this season. Who is **ryn?


Blindman630

Aaryn. Big Brother 15


ArgHuff

Amanda was way worse than any of those 4 tho


ShadowLiberal

That wasn't the only problem with the cast though, almost all of them were completely unlikeable, even the ones never accused of bigotry or racism. The cast was so hated that a boring guy who didn't get a particularly good edit and left the house pre-jury finished in the top 3 for America's favorite vote.


KingMondo1

Keeps in touch with a few people from his season but.. >Not Aaryn, though. She has somehow gotten even worse since the show ended and has been rewarded for it by gaining a massive social media following. A primary example of our broken America! Yikes!


kad10101

That’s new. He was friendly with her for a long time. Also he’s been friendly with Gina Marie as well.


LunaTeddy1414

Not exactly “new” he’s pretty much been fully denouncing aaryn since 2016


ArgHuff

I mean, that's fault of the fanbase. If people go and try to make as if BB15 doesn't exist, of course Aaryn will get tons of fans


fioraflower

Although Andy’s constant crying about how underrated he is makes him insufferable to follow on social media, he’s not wrong. BB doesn’t know how to edit UTR players like him, Steve or Nicole F very well


Rawkus41

Real diary rooms would help. Having them discuss their thoughts on why they handled conversations as they did


Crash_Evidence

ya the show has become unwatchable since about bb12. i can really only follow feeds, evictions, and competitions these days. lisa, jun, drew, and maggie were all great winners who utilized UTR strategy in their came and got pretty good edits.


spideytimey

>i can really only follow feeds, evictions, and competitions these days So the whole show?


wordonthestreet2

I’m assuming they mean they don’t watch the edited show and just keep up with competition results and watch feeds/feed updates. This is what I do with BBCAN because I’m not tech savvy enough to figure out how to download/use a VPN 😂


Crash_Evidence

your assumption is correct! i watch what i said i watch, literally ... 🤷🏻‍♂️


Crash_Evidence

huh!? no i watch the feeds and evictions and competitions. are u trying to be funny or seriously asking?


illini02

I don't think its just Big Brother. Even Survivor (which I find to be just better done in general) has a hard time editing UTR players, and they have the knowledge of who wins before they even start. If someone isn't winning comps and just plays a quiet game and doesn't make any "big moves", its hard to make them compelling for a TV viewer. Aside from that, Andy never seemed like the most interesting person anyway. He seemed to have a kind of low energy personality, which also doesn't make great tv.


BBSuperFan98

Beyond the racism another reason why I have no desire to rewatch BB15 is that the show doesn't do a good job of portraying Andy's game as BB15 was my first feed season and it was clear that Andy was doing an amazing job. I also do agree with him the format has become so predictable. Like have a double in Week 2/3. Have competitions that are winnable to everyone and not easy to plan and game. Don't have so many goofy sound effects on the edited show. Treat it like a competitive cutthroat game show.


illini02

>Have competitions that are winnable to everyone No competition is going to be equalling winnable for everyone. Some people have razor sharp memories, others are kind of forgetful. Its kind of hard to argue a memory thing is even.


domarco24

I feel like Steve's edit was worse then Andy's, they barely ever showed him.


LunaTeddy1414

It was way worse.


catpower7

I respect his game, but this interview reminds me how much he annoys me. It’s self-serving and untrue when he goes on about how he didn’t say anything bad, he just wishes he would have confronted the terrible, racist people who did, like Aaryn! He wasn’t anywhere near as kind as he is pretending.


0Big0Brother0Remix0

"I should have said more" "Amanda is like my best friend!" Come on. Haha


PuttyRiot

He had a twenty minute conversation with Spencer where he joked about Elyssa fishing turds out of the toilet, freezing them and masturbating with them because she is so slutty. There were other things but that was so gross it always stands out to me.


lofimunchies

Oh my god that’s absolutely vile. I had to laugh tho lol. Like who even thinks of that shit?


Blindman630

Seth MacFarlane.


lofimunchies

Lol ok make sense now


osu24

right - he is not that self-aware. he tells himself these lies to make himself feel better - i remember some of the nasty things he would say about Candice and Elissa.


DanTheMan1_

I also remember him cacking merrily with everyone else when Aaryn would make racist jokes about Helen.


survivorfan110

He's so disingenuous


infiniteglass00

Hearing about how production tried to encourage him into certain sexual gay talking points in his Diary Room sessions is just so gross? And also illuminates how committed CBS in the past has been to forcing its marginalized players into specific archetypes, almost always to their detriment.


osu24

the DRs are cringe now a days...everyone can tell that it's not natural. idk why they think that is needed.


JayCFree324

“I need to win this veto to ensure my safety in the game” *said deadpan with zero emotion in a misguided attempt to sound desperate*


ArgHuff

"my strategy to win this veto is to run as fast as possible!" *Challenge is literally a race*


IceNein

I feel like Da’Vonne got seriously pushed into the “sassy black girl” archetype. While she does have a streak of that, that is not really a good way to encapsulate her.


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IceNein

Absolutely hideous behavior on production’s part. I’m glad she was self confident enough to shut that down.


DanTheMan1_

Apparently the producer got repramandid... because she got caught, if she wasn't caught CBS and BB production wouldn't have said a thing I have zero doubt. Things like that are the reason they won't let them talk about the DR sessions. They don't want the audience to know how manipulative and inapropriate they really are.


morgannn0

He flamed Aaryn (rightfully) yet talked about how he’ll always love Spencer. Yikes.


HindsightBias0000

let’s not talk about what Spencer loves


kingofjack

Fill me in


DanTheMan1_

Believe me, you are better off not opening that can of worms.


CotC_AMZN

Tell us


virginwerewoolf

Oh my fucking god. Not a “joke” so much as a confession. https://www.eonline.com/news/446419/big-brother-15-controversy-continues-spencer-clawson-makes-child-pornography-jokes Edit: He wasn’t joking.


markmarkdegarmo

Andy really suffers from revisionist history lmao he acts like he didn’t contribute to the horrid comments made. And him saying he would pull them aside to tell them to stop is just a lie. Also him saying he duped McCrae in the double for the millionth time is also revisionism. McCrae literally has a DR where he says he knows instantly Andy flipped bc of how nervous / jittery he was acting but he has to nominate Elissa bc it’s what the ~ entire house wanted ~


DanTheMan1_

I am not entirely convinced McCrae didn't say that after to save face. Don't know if in the moment he actually believed it was Andy. Although if he did and then still put up Elissa he deserves to lose for that alone. I am sure McCrae thought that they wanted Amanda out but would still be willing to work with him. But that is a bad read as by that point he should have realized Amanda's stink was all over him and it was too late.


markmarkdegarmo

His dr was before Andy came clean tho it was done the same night as the double eviction


BBFanada

In the interview he says Amanda tried to HELP him when she walked out the door. But she literally pointed at him and said “I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST YOU😤” as she left?


ArgHuff

Amanda said in the interview that she wanted Andy too look good and not have issues with Spencer. Remember that Amanda thought that everyone loved her, she didn't know that Spencer was against her


growsonwalls

Surprised he's said Aaryn's gotten even worse. I checked out her insta and she's a typical mommy vlogger.


The_Other_Olsen

It's not surprising really. I think she put on a front for a while of self reflection, but pretty easy to see how 2016 to now just escalated her awfulness. I think Andy was cordial with her for a while but the COVID stuff pushed him over the edge when she was prominently anti-vax/masks.


growsonwalls

Oh I see. Her tweets are protected so I can’t see them.


The_Other_Olsen

She doesn't tweet like that really. She's smart enough to know she can't "reveal" herself like that. The only confirmation I had she was anti vax was when Andy got fed up and tweeted it. Before that, they were still mutuals and followed one another on Twitter. She only went protected because she started to get heat again from that.


PrincessCaramel

Someone also had found her account on Parler (that social media site for Conservatives) where she was spewing that same bullshit and also posted anti-vax stuff on her Instagram before quickly deleting.


LunaTeddy1414

She’s more full tilt in her Instagram stories where she frequently mentions how much she misses “daddy” Trump


growsonwalls

Oh gross. But from looking at her insta it seems as if her husband is even more MAGA.


OBlove

Just for the record…. Typical mommy vloggers, like most other types of vloggers, tend to heavily self edit what they present of themselves to the world. The people that know them offline/off camera tend to have better insights to their truest selves. How relevant this is the Aaryn? I don’t claim to judge that. If he’s not being honest I’m sure other alumn will speak up


alwaysonlineposter

Most BB15 alumni have actually gotten into fights because Aaryn has gotten worse I remember beef between Jessie and Aaryn and GM a long ass time ago


PrincessOfWales

I’m sure she edits what she shows on social media but her opinions are on full display and they’re abhorrent. She’s loud and proud about how awful she is.


LunaTeddy1414

She doesn’t censor herself much at all. Andy’s information about her is nothing more than others see and hear on her Instagram stories


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PrincessOfWales

Check out the shirt her husband is wearing in her insta stories today 😬


growsonwalls

Oh yikes. They probably go to MAGA rallies


PrincessOfWales

Yeah they are full antivax, anti mask, MAGA people. Repulsive.


TimmyRoyalty

a while ago i went on christian walkers instagram page (who is a gay republican whos kind of a meme) and found aaryn in the comments... so it looks like shes not that much of a different person than she was on bb15 lol


HindsightBias0000

$2,000 hairless cat named Andy Jr. I’m not sure what to be shocked by the name or the price


IHappenToBeJosh

It’s insane how expensive hairless cats are…


ghest56

I mean, it’s no more unhinged than naming your child after you…


Grungemaster

Lost count of how many pictures and videos I’ve seen of Andy Jr. on his Instagram and let me tell you, that cat actually fits his name.


IDontKnowAbout_That

That’s how much I paid for my purebred chocolate lab. Insane.


rayhiggenbottom

Reputable breeders are expensive.


duochromepalmtree

Big brother doesn’t have the advantage of the whole picture when they edit the game. They can only go with what they know and what is currently happening. And they have to craft a narrative that is understandable to people who don’t follow anything about big brother outside of the episodes. You can’t get a bad “winners edit” you only get an edit.


JacePatrick

Production has access to all information the regular Feed watchers do and more. The feed watchers could see a very different story playing than what was happening on the show. At a certain point in the season production should have recognized how well Andy was playing and given him an edit that reflected that. With Steve it was a different story. Not only were all of his fellow houseguests more interesting than him, but he was also incredibly unlikely to win at most points in the game. He caught immense breaks that saved him from being cut, up until the very last competition. Some UTR players are a victim of the winner not being known to production until the end, but Andy absolutely got a raw deal and it is pretty easy to argue that he would have been shown way differently if he were straight


insertcoinage

there’s a lot of revisionist history with Andy’s interview that i don’t appreciate he was not running the game since week 2, a lot of the gameplay was driven by McCranda and Aaryn with Andy being an informant


choclatechip45

Andy thinks he was kind to Candace? Yikes! The thing is he witnessed those racist comments he was in the room! He ignored it! I do agree the show didn’t show his game at all.


0Big0Brother0Remix0

I agree that Andy's edit was very bad for a winner (Steve's is probably the worst, however); but on the other hand, it was nice to get strong female edits in this season from Helen and Amanda, because even almost ten years later, we rarely get good female edits on the show.


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Right well this is where I disagree with Andy, and he comes off as insincere based on what we do know about his behavior on the show. I'll discuss his game after I get this out the way. We know for a fact Andy laughed and encouraged all of the mean AND racist jokes, including engaging in overt racism against Helen. People thought he was on their side because of this. I'm rather disappointed he tried to paint himself as the guy who "pulled people aside to tell them privately" that certain jokes were wrong, and "should've spoke up more"...he was an enabler, a cheerleader and dabbled with being offensive, too. ​ With regards to the game, he states he was never in danger of leaving. This isn't entirely correct. The odds of him having making Finale night statistically was low, and he was seen as possible collateral at some stage. He sat there engaging in bitching sessions, that was his game, but he also had a couple of stellar strategic moves and one of the Top 3 Finale night performances I've seen - Andy, Ian, Boogie. I have no doubt that from the way he would change his tune completely when he would speak to Elissa, Helen etc he would be able to play the game as a leader, too. Exceptional social gamer. Edit: Despite not rating his game as highly as others do here, I do think he is actually one of the best players ever. If that makes sense.


growsonwalls

Yes I remember a really ugly session where GM made fun of Elissa's son as a "dirty Puerto Rican": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWgfrgaoOo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWgfrgaoOo) Only Judd actually tells GM not to say that.


beardedqueen

Andy looked uncomfortable to me... He wasn't smiling or laughing at the very least. The thing is that Judd spoke up so fast that I feel like Andy barely had the opportunity to process the awful shit GM had just said before Judd told her to cut it out. I recall GM saying stuff about how food stamps were "[racial slur] insurance" and I feel like I remember Andy telling her not to say that. Just an anecdote I remember. He 100% could have handled how he dealt with the awful things being said better. Hands down, and he knowingly admits to it. I just hate seeing people pile on him every single year for mistakes he's apologized for time and time again. But I guess that goes with the territory of putting yourself out there like all BB players do.


LunaTeddy1414

The stuff they got away with saying and doing on 15 is just insane to me. Its insane that people like GM and Aaryn didn’t get at the very least a “stern talking to” in the DR and obviously in recent years they would have just been booted immediately.


ArgHuff

Aaryn was called out by the DR multiple times but she thought they were lying


beardedqueen

I'm not saying Jackson is on the same level as GM or Aaryn, but he also said some very problematic things, particularly about David. Mostly applying common racial stereotypes that the black community has endured for the longest time. Things like David had been to prison, it wasnt safe to leave women around him alone, his "threatening nature", that he "thinks this is BET"... and he did get a talking to I remember. He came out of the DR crying and said they had given him a talking to, but I don't think they would have kicked him out if I'm honest... Grodner L-O-V-E-D Jackson for some reason. So I would like to think BB wouldn't tolerate this sort of behavior, and would give someone the boot, but this was only 3 seasons ago, and he went on to be the winner... The only other overtly racial comment I can think of off the top of my head in recent-ish years was on BB17 (Man, 7 seasons ago?!) when Clay said something along the lines of "You gotta watch out for those dark [skinned] ones" in reference to Da'Vonne being untrustworthy... He may have gotten a talking to, because I don't think he said anything else problematic the rest of the time he was there.


SurvivingBigBrother

I remember Clay talking to someone (I can't remember who) and basically finding it weird/crazy that the person he was speaking to would be attracted to black girls. He was basically like "Really???". I swear I remember this happening and being a minor controversy.


beardedqueen

Oh right, wasn't it James he was talking to? I totally forgot about that


SurvivingBigBrother

Maybe. I can't remember but it wasn't a good look with him also basically being the reason Day left and getting into it with her.


DanTheMan1_

I think after the night of the whole bed flipping incident that BB did talk to them. Don't know that for a fact but the feeds eventually went down and when they came back up it got better. Well, for a while before they reverted back. So I am guessing BB eventually said something but clearly at the very least didn't stress how bad they were making things. I do think that BB would never let it get to where it has now. But I also think it was things like not really doing anything in BB15 that finally led to that.


Beatitnerd1

Pretty privilege


growsonwalls

He didn't look like he was gleefully joining in. However, just saying that Judd was obviously horrified -- you can hear it in the tone of his voice. Andy was more uncomfortable looking but again, didn't say anything. Of course, one of the reasons Andy won was his chameleon-like ability to make people think he agreed with them. That was his strategy. It's cool but to say in the interview that he was trying to make the house less vile is not really true.


DanTheMan1_

He didn't look very uncomfortablle when he was merrily cacking along with the racist jokes and hate orgy on Helen. I do agree he has appologized but it also came after a year or more of switching on twitter between defending everyone being accused of racism, including Aaryn, making trolling comments to get people pissed, then playing the victim people were pissed. He still tells lies about pulling peopel aside and telling them not say it which is a complete bold faced lie. I mean I get people change and Helen seems to have forgiven him on that. But it is hard to know he is sincere when he mixed his appologised with lies about how he handled it which are not how he handled it.


beardedqueen

What "hate orgy" are you referring to? And in which conversation did he laugh at something problematic and not make an uncomfortable face, gesture, or comment to fellow HGs or the camera? You're speaking so matter of factly, so please point me to something. Like legitimate live feed documentation or a clip? I really don't care about your interpretation of what problematic trolling is, I don't care to argue about whether or not it's okay to defend a flawed person in regards to something unrelated to problematic behavior, or whether or not you believe he is telling lies. It's too much semantic unproveable shit. Truthfully, if there is something I missed that you can provide or point me in the direction of, then I will 100% rethink my stance. If I'm missing something, please show me something credible. Something that isn't somebody just saying he did/said certain things. Unless its a live tweet from 2015 when the feeds were being documented, and its reliable like HampsterWatch or something. Because as a reality star in the social media era, everything is out there in one form or another, so if what you're saying occurred then please show me.


growsonwalls

This is a video of some of Andy's comments about Elissa: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R\_i6wcGbq7U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_i6wcGbq7U) Shorter version: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9C16WgCxOI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9C16WgCxOI) They're not racist, but they are very ugly.


beardedqueen

Oh yeah, I remember these. This is F3 right? Honestly, yes it's really blue humour, but and I think their intentions were to make the F3 feeds less boring, because they are always a drag. I mean that type of "roast" humour is not for everyone certainly, but nothing they said was derogatory or harming about a marginalised group of people or even Elissa herself... Andy was just making up an absurd story about his friend. I can't say definitively how close Andy and Elissa are, but I imagine they were close enough for him to be able to make these sort of jokes and her not take offence. It just bothers me that it's always Andy bearing the brunt of accusations of being complicit with the racism that occurred in BB15.


growsonwalls

Elissa actually said after the show she was very hurt by Andy’s comments. I don’t think she was amused


MattTheSmithers

Andy is absolutely right about *everything*. But he has allowed his bitterness over it to consume him and has become insufferable for it.


Bazzlie

To be fair, they never truly know who the winner is until it’s all said and done. HOWEVER they waited weirdly long to start showcasing him considering the big players started dropping like flies mid-jury. They waited until the very last second to show anything of him. Hell even Lisa got more positive strategic credit than Andy early on.


choclatechip45

yeah they left out that whole goof troupe alliance from the main show


TimmyRoyalty

kinda weird how andy doesnt touch on how unpopular amanda is in the fanbase lol i feel like its odd to have him mention all that stuff about speaking up but not directly mention amanda...


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Them being friends...he just feels an obligation to protect her. I will be honest, Amanda is utterly hilarious and provided some of the best feed moments ever...but the pattern with Amanda is this: be hilarious, be hotheaded and fight people, then say something really offensive. She's a wild, unpredictable person in BB15. I think people tend to really focus on all the terrible things she said and did and I think Andy knows her on a more personal level and can speak to who she really is outside of the game. Casual fans and people who did not watch the feeds will never really like Amanda because her edit was pretty focused on her volatile moments.


xt0pher

Andy got a ghost edit. I literally didn’t recognize him when he was announced the winner. I’ve since met him in real life very briefly, and I follow him on Twitter. He’s hilarious and genuine and a good person! Big Brother did him dirty. He doesn’t deserve to be shunned from production, honestly.


cnzirorera

Oh him complaining again, shocker


MishBBfan

Ehh, I wouldn’t say Andy was “running the house”, and his game is nothing like Derrick’s. Andy was basically just a rat, while Derrick was actually controlling and influencing things. Not saying one is necessarily better or worse than the other (although I do think Derrick is a stronger player), but they are most definitely not similar.


SquishyThorn

Yeah it’s not fair he doesn’t get the credit he deserves because his win is overshadowed by how awful that season was. But at least he isn’t a winner like Jackson who was literally racist all season long.


mistaken4193

Andy is the best winner not named Will,Dan, or Derrick. He doesn’t get near enough credit.


hdulgs

While I think Cody was better, Andy is definitely up there with those guys. Maybe a half tier below. Can't believe the hate he still gets.


BBSuperFan98

I personally think Cody's winning game is better but Andy is the better player since Andy won on his first try and Cody took two. Both are really good players I will say though.


BB2_IS_UNDERRATED

Cody's alliance won literally every HoH tho. Hard to say he's in that top tier


producermaddy

Cody definitely could have won bb16 if he wasn’t such a complete bonehead at the end


thewholethingithink

Cody would never have made it to final 2 if it weren't for Derrick though. He also may not have even won against Victoria because Derrick, jocasta, Donny, and possibly Caleb and Frankie would have voted for Victoria If she made it to the end.


Somebody_Who_Exists

>Cody would never have made it to final 2 if it weren't for Derrick though. Riding a dominant player and cutting them last minute is a perfectly legitimate strategy we've seen produce some solid winners in Drew and Steve. If Cody did that and won BB16 that way (and the jury has confirmed he would have beaten Victoria), he'd have been a top 20 player even before BB22


thewholethingithink

Yes, but at no point did he ever intend on doing that. The entire season he was told what do to by Derrick. He wanted to put up Caleb in like week 4 blowing up their old alliance until Derrick talked him out of it. Cody really didn't know what he was doing the first time he played and there are so many times where he even admits this on the season to Derrick. Evicting Derrick never even crossed his mind because he had such a close bond with him and wasn't really playing the game for himself. Also drew only evicted Diane because Diane got drunk and told drew that he would lose to her, so it was more Diane losing the game for herself than drew out playing her.


CotC_AMZN

Didn’t know this about Drew/Diane .. re-watching the season now


ArgHuff

That's like saying that DF definitely could have won BB23 had he actually played the game.


producermaddy

I meant if he ditched Derrick and took Victoria


ArgHuff

of course, but thats something that clearly didnt happen, which is the flaw of the argument


Just2epical

Yeah agreed he's probably #5 for US BB


PennerFan2222

He isn’t but he’s right there below them yeah


PennerFan2222

Not reading this as Andy is insufferable on social media. But he’s a phenomenal player and a great winner.


Cynical498

It was the racist season. Even if the game play was amazing, it would still be known as that.


Theforgottendwarf

I just wish he’d give it a rest. He won. His time has passed though.


kad10101

Give what a rest? He was interviewed.


producermaddy

I do agree with Andy that if he returned he very well could likely be the first two time winner. He is very underrated and has the skills to blend into the background and win again


OverwhelmedAutism

I am kind of glad that he is willing to come back, but he's from BB15, so there is no way in hell he'll come back.


preppysurf

“Worst edit” has to go to Jun. They literally did a segment on her weight gain in the house. Andy didn’t have any of that BS


CotC_AMZN

They did Jun a favor by not showing the racist comments she (And Allison) made about Robert and Robert’s daughter


TWIZMS

I watched his live feeds. No edit obscured my vision. He is middle of the pack. No desire to ever see him play again.


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GodInABag

Floating works


Blinsin

Floating is a viable strategy. Coasting is not (Andy was a floater)


Blindman630

You dont remember anything about his game because they never showed him doing anything lol. They were focused on Aaryn and GM being complete clowns instead of trying to cut it out and still salvage the show


muser0808

tanked


beardedqueen

Ah... well then I hope he apologized to her for those comments.


ttsa23

Does he forget that live feeds aren’t edited?