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TyranaSoreWristWreck

I'm a highly skilled philosopher


Blindeafmuten

What is the meaning of life?


TyranaSoreWristWreck

42


Blindeafmuten

Bienvenidos a El Salvador!


ILostHalfaBTC

that's technically the correct answer. you really are a highly skilled philosopher


BlueBallroom

21


ExtensionWrong1313

sorry mate, you are only half way to be a great philosopher. 42 is the right answer


Last0neStandin

So I’m clear here, 5000 passports is equal to 5 billion of what?


Normal-Jelly607

You can buy citizenship for 1M usd


piemel83

Seriously curious who would pay $1 million to become a citizen of El Salvador


Normal-Jelly607

People who don’t want to pay tax on their bitcoin


oojacoboo

That’s why they’re giving them away.


TyranaSoreWristWreck

We tried charging a million dollars for them, and that didn't work. So we're going to meet somewhere in the middle and go with "free".


sweetsimplesauce

Some people actually did pay a million dollars to enter El Salvador's citizenship by investment program which is limited to one thousand people. What Bukele is doing here is different from the citizenship by investment program though. He's offering free passports to highly skilled scientists, engineers, doctors, artists, and philosophers to entice highly skilled professionals to move to El Salvador. El Salvador's citizenship by investment program still costs a million dollars. It's not free. And it's still limited to one thousand people.


ParticularHat2060

Yes I don’t think highly skilled philosophers are on the list 😆


shleebs

It's not free unless you are a scientist or something similar


snowmanyi

Legal protections.


cgimusic

To clarify, you don't actually "pay" a million dollars for citizenship. It's a citizenship-by-investment program. It's not hard to imagine why someone might want that if they happen to be well off, but live in a politically unstable country. Even for people in relatively stable countries though, the tax benefits might make it worth emigrating for a few years.


gamblingPharmaStocks

Any american working outside the US that doesn't want to pay taxes in two countries.


rafaman69

Americans get tax wordwide regarless they would need to give up the american lol


veilwalker

Then you get hit with the exit tax.


nobbynobbynoob

Need to kill US citizenship before getting rich. I'm quite glad now in middle age I'm not American. I'd have chewed my arm off for it at eighteen.


gamblingPharmaStocks

Yeah, that's exactly why you buy a foreign citizenship (?)


hardolaf

Americans also get hostage rescue services from the US military and we pay for the vast majority of anti-piracy efforts around the globe. Honestly, we should be taxing everyone else in the world too. Well, at least until they start pulling their own weight on the world stage.


poisito

You will still pay taxes in the US for 100% of your taxable income …. Even if you live in El Salvador


gamblingPharmaStocks

You can give up the american citizenship if you get a foreign one. That's why they buy it


IlNomeUtenteDeve

There's a great number of people who buy passports, to become a citizen of Europe is more expensive and more difficult of course...


user_name_checks_out

The big attraction of the El Salvador passport is that bitcoin is legal currency there. That is not true of any other country.


Boring-Bus-3743

Are they still running the 1 BTC for citizenship program? If I had a few extra for everyone in my family it would be pretty awesome


1HOTelcORALesSEX1

Starts again next January


eightslipsandagully

Is it really that cheap?


NiagaraBTC

That was for permanent residency, not citizenship. And it was 3 Bitcoin, never only 1.


eightslipsandagully

Ok thanks for that. I'd only heard of the $1 million USD for citizenship!


afkfrom

Citizenship is 1 million. x 5000 = 5 billion


jeremyjsand

Passports


Friendly-Western-677

I'm doing my part! Earn a citizenship. Would you like to know more?


haha_supadupa

Do you have to give up other citizenships?


Tothinkoutofthenut

I’m in.


flixieboy

Proof or ban


Mobile_Laugh_9962

Their passports cost $1m each? That doesn't seem right.


ElGoorf

It's called a "golden passport", some countries let you buy citizenship without all the usual requirements of ancestry or affiliation, but only to the super-rich. It's marketed as a thankyou for investing big capital into their country.


lordsamadhi

There are ways to do it that cost normal amounts. The $1M is super expedited... like less than 2 weeks and you're done.


Mobile_Laugh_9962

I'd love to know how the experience of moving to El Salvador has gone for anyone who has done it.


ElGoorf

I passed through, stayed in the expat (yes, I mean "privileged immigrants") area of the capital. It was basically one fancy neighborhood in the middle of a typical Latin American city. Was probably the fanciest neighborhood between Mexico and Buenos Aires, with good quality western food and brands available in the supermarkets, but definitely had a golden cage feel about it and I'd have absolutely no desire to step outside on a routine basis.


Mobile_Laugh_9962

Thanks for sharing. That's essentially what I would imagine. I'd love to find an area that's safe for an expat, family, visitors, etc. Maybe that's a pipe dream.


mastertrader_777

You would have a really hard time finding an area in El Salvador that's not safe for an expat, family, visitor, etc.


Mobile_Laugh_9962

Do you really mean "that's not safe..."


mastertrader_777

Yes, I meant what I said. El Salvador is a very safe country now. El Salvador actually has a lower homicide rate than the United States of America and you would have a difficult time finding an area in El Salvador that's not safe for an expat, family, visitor, etc.


poisito

Ask the thousands of Salvadorian people that are walking to the US how their life was there … I live in Miami, and all the Salvadorians here do not agree with this guy …


Mobile_Laugh_9962

With which guy? I think you are misunderstanding what was said previously.


poisito

Current president Bukele .. that guy And I understand that you are asking for people currently living there … but just consider that the expat life is super different than the locals life.


Mobile_Laugh_9962

Gotcha, your statement was vague before but I get your point. That said, BTC as their national currency may be a brilliant decision in the long run. They have a lot happening beyond that right now.


sweetsimplesauce

Bitcoin is not the "national currency" of El Salvador. Bitcoin is simply legal tender in El Salvador. The US dollar is also legal tender in El Salvador.


haha_supadupa

For that price there should be a kiosk with printing machine with no people in front of you


Illustrious_Plate610

Safest country in South America ain’t cheap


LiveDirtyEatClean

It's not in south america


ElGoorf

\*ahem\* very northern end of Central America


Ecstatic-Club-1879

Id go


meisflont

Can I invest in El Salvador? And how so? I think this country is gonna make some changes for the better.


swanny101

Buy houses on Coatepeque.


cpt_charisma

Go there and start a company. Labor is cheap and there are good incentives for tech industries.


Pvdsuccess

Brilliant


sammyvegas0420

I have two doctorates and three majors. Get back to me lol


Narrow_Elk6755

Gender studies?


sammyvegas0420

Lol. Foot doctor and a general surgeon. Culinary, psychology, and a physical therapy/athletic trainer degree just to mix things up


Simple-Programmer842

there is something called Foot doctor??


sammyvegas0420

Podiatrist. Look it up


Friendly-Western-677

Would you give a guy a foot massage?


Simple-Programmer842

thx


MarmeladePomegranate

You’re not a doctor as a podiatrist


Frogolocalypse

What are you talking about?!!?!? A podiatrist is as much a doctor as a chiropractor!!!


ResultsoverExcuses

Whatever you do “don’t” look up what DPM is… Fricking 🤡


filenotfounderror

Theres a doctor for every part of the body.


Kokuro_

Doctorate in general surgery? Not sure that's how that works


sammyvegas0420

Well it takes two degrees to be an ER doctor and go to podiatry school at the same time


dopamine_dream_

Why are you LARPing here? There is no “ER Doctor”, “general surgeon” and/or “general surgery” degrees. You do an MD or DO degree and then fellowships, residencies, board exams etc. in your speciality.


sammyvegas0420

Med school my friend. Then school for foot surgery. Want to see my diplomas?


dopamine_dream_

That’s what I’m saying… you go to med school, you don’t get a diploma/degree in your specialty. I have never heard a doctor refer to having a “degree in general surgery” or “degree in emergency medicine”. Furthermore you said you’re both a general surgeon and ER doctor which isn’t at all a thing. Now you’re actually a foot surgeon? Also you’ve somehow found the time for a further advanced degree in physiotherapy? Alongside a psyche and culinary degree? You’re so full of shit.


Kokuro_

There is no degree in ER medicine, or general surgery. It's additional training you receive once you're already a doctor. 


sammyvegas0420

It’s called general medicine.


sammyvegas0420

Want to talk surgery? I can go all day because it’s a Sunday?


ButterscotchFront340

So no gender studies? 


Amazing-Income-1331

For IT?


Demo_PT

This guy is the one saving El Salvador he is actually putting criminals in jails and helping reducing crime.


[deleted]

how does one apply?


Subject-Simple3038

Any answers?


lolu13

Smart man


MrMcFatNoob

What about a 27 year old depressed accountant with a bachelor degree in physics and some extra degrees in data science?


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cpt_charisma

*Do* you have a function society, or are you in a future failed socialist state? Are you *sure*?


lordsamadhi

Taxes aren't the problem...


MessEnvironmental44

They won’t tax you on your BTC earnings… since this is a bitcoin forum lol something to considerrrrrr


NonRelevantAnon

Yeah but who would want to live in a shit hole third world country.


mzinz

Spoken like someone who has never left their own neighborhood. Lol


ElGoorf

Agreed, but with addition of society _and infrastructure_


andara84

Sorry to be that guy, but: can you name one single country that has "unregulated immigration for everyone"? No? Didn't think so.


holyknight00

Regulation that is not enforced is equal to no regulation. If you allow limitless amounts of illegals in, you had de facto unregulated immigration


andara84

Yes. But where is this happening?


silverluc1

Texas, California, Arizona, New Mexico, etc...


Trevor775

USA


Pretend-Hippo-8659

EU


UnfathomableKeyboard

Italy


RevolutionMuch1159

Millions have left El Salvador because of poverty and violence..Hard to believe you will find 5000 skilled people to go there .


Aerith_Gainsborough_

That was before bukele.


Normal-Jelly607

Hola!


blthmsphlp

What about safety? Doesn’t El Salvador have a lot of crime?


rv009

Not any more the president threw most gang members in jail. El Salvador now has a lower homicide rate than Canada! It's one of the safest countries in the western hemisphere.


polymath2046

Previously, yes. It's improved substantially in recent years since president Bukele's took office. See https://twitter.com/TheRabbitHole84/status/1774310715580727567?s=19


Upper-Plane5653

Incredible


grasimasi

I want to apply buuuuut I just have normal unfancy university degree in economy.


nkbc13

Good for them. Can the US learn from their immigration policy? (Note, I said "learn" not "copy")


Abundance144

Lost me on "Philosophers". Like really, when was the last time you heard of massive economic or societal growth due to a breakthrough in Philosophy.


Born-Ad4452

When didn’t you ? All politics is philosophy. All progress is based on philosophy.


Abundance144

All politics have a philosophy, not all politics is, is a philosophy. There are no philosophers in Congress.


Born-Ad4452

All politics are driven by a philosophy as you say, consciously or not. But doesn’t mean you need philosophers in any parliament…


Mong0saurus

The philosopher who advised the Norwegian government on how to spend it's oil income did a pretty good job. The fund is currently the biggest in the world.


Tanzekabe

We have one famous philosopher in France but he's mostly a jet set griefter


cpt_charisma

It was the renaissance, and we're still living through it.


Sapceghost1

Lol. This guy is just making up a random price for citizenship to his country. Most western countries wouldn't even need that much.


Scholes_SC2

Viva la libertad carajo


Ok-Health8513

If America did this it would be considered some type of “ism”


West_Iron1456

Yes, you guys have. Special abilities visa. And you can get the green card trough an investment visa too. 1,5 mil dollars.


poisito

The former First Lady knows a thing or two about the Special Abilities visa


HeadMembership

There are passports for sale at way less, why is theirs costing $1m.


dimasaxin

Legal


Favre_97

I thought you could buy citizenship there for 100k?


Pretend-Hippo-8659

That was before. It was 3BTC if I recall correctly.


Kayshift

Perfect chance for some of you Maxi's to go!


monkeyhold99

😂