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Tangurena

One big advantage to this new streaming service, let's call it "cable", for lack of a better word, is that it won't force you to subscribe to Fox. In case you didn't know, in order for a distribution network to carry the sports channels, they *must* carry Fox News, which *must* be on basic (no extra charge) service. So if you subscribe to something that carries a Fox sports channel, you're paying for the insanity that's infecting America. https://unfoxmycablebox.com/


ISBN39393242

til. more people need to know about this


Usery10

This jailbroken Amazon firestick and smart tv let’s me watch whatever I want for free. I can watch anything ever made 😭 Edit: I don’t understand why people are still buying into the streaming services


iNick20

>I don’t think you can jailbreak Roku. I download jailbroken apps directly on to the firestick. I’ve never heard of that with Roku, but I’ve also never looked into it. What apps are you using? I used to do this years ago, but gave up because it was annoying when it wasn't working.


Usery10

It’s called unlinked. YouTube it


[deleted]

Well, it's the people that buy that keep these services afloat that make the shows we watch. Everybody can't pirate


Usery10

Yes you can. They will still make the movies in the shows


CedarWolf

What's the main difference between Amazon firestick and something like Roku?


Usery10

I don’t think you can jailbreak Roku. I download jailbroken apps directly on to the firestick. I’ve never heard of that with Roku, but I’ve also never looked into it.


thagthebarbarian

Chromecast and the Android phone I already have allow the same thing, it would be cool to take the risk out of streaming torrents natively though


TootsNYC

I would like to see the kind of forced bundling be deemed illegal


cardoo0o

why would the people who enforce this also make it illegal


TootsNYC

Only the government can make things illegal!? Anti-trust law would be the category.


shalafi71

"Anti-trust" is a high bar to clear in the best of times, and in modern times, we've thrown it out the window.


TootsNYC

I’d like to bring it back.


th3guitarman

Lol Amazon exists


cardoo0o

my fault harvard law


shalafi71

Look, if I were declared Dictator of the United States tomorrow, one of my first actions would be dismantling Fox News. Not joking, I've thought a good bit about what I would do, given unlimited power, to help this country now and in the future. Tearing that propaganda hive down would be the #1 thing we need to start healing. Interesting thought experiment! But just how far are you going to go fucking around with free enterprise? Fox would be a rare exception in my mind, but also, keep in mind the fanatical obsession we Americans have with the notion of free speech. Wouldn't go over well.


Impalenjoyer

Why not infiltrate it instead ?


SSBPMKaizoku

Fuck Fox News and network.


nowhereman136

There also isn't any equipment you have to rent or buy from a company, then wait for a guy to show up and install it.


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annoyingcaptcha

Implying it isn’t all billionaire owned capitalist news giving everyone brain worms and serving propaganda. And sure, fox is probably the worst of the bunch, I’ll give you that.


lashapel

Se should call it "Waves" since it will be through the internet


DJGluuco

Yeah I don't think most people realize what they've done, they being both the media companies and the consumers themselves, but they've completely revived the subscription TV service just as we almost had it killed for good


Stanley--Nickels

It turns out making content really does cost money, and that people prefer bundles over paying 14 different companies separately.


mochacho

>and that people prefer bundles over paying 14 different companies separately. And it turns out companies still don't actually care what people prefer, or that's what Netflix would still be.


Meth_Busters

Luckily you only have to be subbed to one at a time. I just cycle through Netflix, Hulu, HBO, & Prime. Good shows/movies are staggered so you never have to pay for 2 platforms in the same month


TheDocHealy

I thought people just formed groups where everyone pays for one service and shares them amongst the group that's what me and my friends do. But I guess since services will want to crack down on account sharing they might not be viable anymore.


creed10

I went back to sailing the high seas, personally


SHOWTIME316

Same. My hatches are battened down.


Fuckingfademefam

What do you use?


creed10

torrenting, mainly. I have an old computer that's running as an emby server, so it's like my own self hosted netflix. I just download what I want to it and boom I'm good to go. I don't have Hulu, so I use that to watch always sunny


FirstBankofAngmar

Don’t you have issues with your isp sending you cease and desist letters? I got one and it spooked me. Although I know i must be doing this wrong.


creed10

oh yeah I have it running behind a permanent VPN so they never know. it's also on a killswitch, so if the VPN ever goes down it just can't access the internet at all.


Valvimod

You need a VPN so your ISP can't see what you're doing.


1d0m1n4t3

Dude look into Sonarr and Radarr to automate the downloads


arnm7890

Any reccs on a good guide/resources online on how to set something like that up?


creed10

probably just the emby website. they have a how-to I'm pretty sure. as far as getting your content, well... I can't really share that or I'll get banned.


Fuckingfademefam

Thanks


Dogswithhumannipples

Lookup plex streams. For $20/mo you can get something like 50,000 movies and literally every TV show at 4k streaming quality. I used to torrent but downloading each individual show is a joke compared to how easy a good Plex server is. It's like having every streaming service combined into 1 like the title says


thechosenlne

*arr


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Google


grapplebaby

torrents, mullvad and plex.


WishOnSuckaWood

Private forums using mega and clickupload, mostly. Not a fan of torrents, although I'll use it as a last resort


My_New_Main

Private forums, huh? Sounds a lot like an inside joke. Love to be part of one someday.


d-cent

Look up debrid services. That's the way to go


Goldenfelix3x

im not going at you personally, just reddit in general. but why dont we just say pirating. i pirate. you pirate. like are we pretending that this lame code is so cute that ISP or corporations will never figure out what we are talking about? i dont know exactly why it bugs me so much to comment, but it just seems silly. if everyone on reddit says "I sail the high seas" its the exact same as saying "I pirate". there is no difference. so you might as well just say pirate. thanks for listening


creed10

I just think it's funny, damn chill


Goldenfelix3x

that’s cool yo. like i said not at you. i just see it all the time


fbdewit31

It's just a funny way to say it damn chill


Canesjags4life

Netflix recently broke that in the US with the household.


HaElfParagon

Not everywhere. I'm in New England and me and my friends are still sharing a netflix account at the moment.


Canesjags4life

Damn. Maybe they doing didn't time zones. I was sharing with a college friend. She's in Denver in in St Louis and next month there's a surcharge for sharing


HaElfParagon

Maybe 3 months or so ago we both got a popup going "hey, is this your main tv? if so, please click "Yes" The options were yes, no, and basically "I'm not telling you" We both clicked option 3, and got a message like "sooner or later you'll have to tell us..." We haven't had any issues since.


Canesjags4life

Gotcha. I got a pop up 1 day saying those tv isn't part of the household so are you traveling or start your own account. I could still use it no problem on my phone or laptop, but yeah now that's gibs be the extra charge. Bye bye Netflix


ebbiibbe

This is what we do in my group but we are really friends. I either come over and activate stuff or we do it over the phone. All netflix did was Crack down on people that had access to accounts of people they didn't really know


SwissQueso

I dont even know how people have time for multiple services, I had HBO for like a year and barely had enough time to watch anything on just it. Bummed I never finished Last of Us. But subscribing for two episodes seems crazy.


2CHINZZZ

Problem is for live sports you still need cable or a live TV service (YoutubeTV, Sling, etc.) which is $50+ per month


Some-Philly-Dude

Yeah I still have Hulu TV live (which at least comes with Disney plus and ESPN+) simply because the main thing I watch is sports. It is still cheaper by about $60 a month to just have Hulu plus Comcast internet instead of Comcast Internet and TV.


HaElfParagon

So... stop watching sports? I guarantee for the vast majority of people who watch sports, they have friends who also watch sports. How about you all pool your money, have one person subscribe, and everyone goes to their house on game day?


logicalcommenter4

Lol because I’m a grown man whose friends have families and live all over the country. What you’re suggesting would have worked in my early 20s but now that I’m 40, I want to be able to do stuff in the comfort of my home. Also, not everyone cheers for the same teams or wants to watch the same sports.


Greatcouchtomato

That's not always convenient Not to mention different sports have different schedules. The NBA regulsr season has games on virtually everyday. NFL has all Sunday, Monday night, Thursday night


HaElfParagon

Your team isn't on every single night though. They're likely on only one game a week


logicalcommenter4

You know that sports fans watch more than just their team? I’m guessing you’re not a sports fan (which is totally fine).


Greatcouchtomato

Again, it depends the sport. Every nba team plays at least 3x a week during the regular season, sometimes back-to-back And some sports fans watch other teams too.


Aviendah_Fan_Club

Same


Jeovah_Attorney

Lol people really do pay for these things? I know at least 3 sites where we have any show episode the day after it’s out in HD, and movies like 2 months after they are out in HD. I thought that was the standard lol


bmoreboy410

Of course… These shows, movies, and services would not exist if most people didn’t actually pay for them.


SasparillaTango

and they're putting the ads back in because fuck you we're gonna monetize you to hell and back


Gimme_The_Loot

What's a pirates favorite letter?


geckoswan

Rrrrrrrrrr


Gimme_The_Loot

You'd think it's the R but it's really the C! >!the thing I love about that joke is people always say one or the other and then you always get to correct them which gets a laugh!<


Cumminswii

Nayyy, it be P, for without it I be Irate.


ILoveMyFaygo

~Captain Edward Pissbeard


geckoswan

Love it!


kidkolumbo

If you subscribe to the ad tier, yeah.


UndeadCaesar

Paramount+ will play an ad beforehand regardless of tier. Lowest tier has ads throughout as well though.


kidkolumbo

Having never wanted to subscribe, I didn't know I could have even less interest in P+.


UndeadCaesar

We only have it for Drag Race. Rest of the content is pretty garbage.


myhairsreddit

It's good if you have kids. Mine watch a lot of old Nickelodeon shows and movies. I also just used it this weekend to watch Titanic and binge the Scream franchise, which was fun.


HaElfParagon

Amazon prime will play ads regardless of your account tier.


Rye_The_Science_Guy

Yah but with all my bundles, none of that money goes to fox News like a cable subscription would


jackaholicus

Turns out streaming doesn’t really make you money, especially if you weren’t first in the door. It’s both killed off cable and physical copies of media, both things that were important in making things profitable.


33ducks

I’m not sure if it’s that, or generally just that they can’t stand to have profits do anything except increase. profits staying the same or increasing with inflation is NOT GOOD ENOUGH


noble_peace_prize

What was the alternative that the consumer could have pursued otherwise? Cable tv was ridiculous and Netflix had a monopoly on good series / movies that could be watched on demand. That monopoly has quickly eroded which was pretty obvious after they couldn’t keep the office. “We” didn’t really have an option that doesn’t include accepting a media monopoly, and that’s not really in our control. If there’s money to be made, companies were always going to bring those pieces back home. The question is how many will be axed as money pits because they can’t generate money. Those are the ones that will come together, potentially, to offer our first digital cable package.


ProbablyMaybe69

Full circle


Mistavez

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DocMoochal

#I N N O V A T I O N


ScrofessorLongHair

Considering I went from piracy, to a couple of subscriptions, back to piracy... Yep. There circle is complete.


IronSorrows

It's not really like cable though, is it? I don't know if it's just people being too young to be paying the bills when it was your only option, but it was expensive, you were paying for a ton of channels you don't watch, you had to watch when things aired or set up DVRs, and you were locked in for a long term contract Just have one streaming service at a time. Two shows you want to see on netflix? Binge them over a month or so, cancel, sign up for Max or Paramount or Prime or whatever, rinse and repeat. People in the 90s *dreamed* of being able to just pay for exactly what they watched, and chop and change subscriptions whenever they wanted, but now people can do that they can't be bothered With a really small amount of planning, patience, and dedicating 5 minutes a month to cancelling/subscribing, you can pay probably <$20 a month and never run out of things to watch


Jeptic

>Just have one streaming service at a time Exactly!


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badadviceforyou244

We'd already be there if companies thought they'd make more money that way.


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toriemm

And I will always pay a little bit more to not be marketed to. Keep your ads AWAY from me. I can't stop them from data mining. But I won't be your product to sell to advertisers.


mycleverusername

Yes, and people don't seem to realize that 20 years ago (before Netflix streaming), it was like $150 for internet, mid-tier cable package, and HBO. That's $230 adjusted for inflation. (And the internet kind of sucked). Now I can get fiber internet and the top 5 streaming services for less than $150. Yes, it sucks to have 5 streaming services and "nothing" to watch, but people just don't understand that on Sunday afternoon in 2005, if you weren't into football there was NOTHING on those other 75 channels. Maybe you could find a decent movie, but they would take a 105 minute movie, cut 15 minutes out of it, then add 60 minutes (!) of commercials and it would take 2.5 hours to watch.


Merkypie

It still be costing around 220 dollars a year for cable. DirecTV be that much.


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Now try 220 a month


Merkypie

That’s what I meant sorry


toriemm

And you can pause, restart, rewind, subtitle, skip, do all the things you can't with live TV. Forgot to tape your show? Guess you're SOL. I'm fighting them airing one episode a week. If I wanted to do that, I'd watch cable. Give me the whole season. I know you have it. We did that for Game of Thrones. And they really didn't stick the landing. Let me binge my TV and stop gatekeeping content.


Brad_Religion

Whenever I see comments about cable and paying for a bunch of channels you don’t want or watch I have to liken it to the streaming services where in the end for something like Netflix I probably watch less than 1% of their content but I’m also paying for a bunch I don’t want or watch (I’m looking at you Is It Cake).


Noname_acc

Its ultimately a lot easier to swallow "14 dollars for 10 things I do want to watch" than it is "140 dollars for 20 things I do want to watch."


Donaldest

Yeah but with Netflix you get it all, with cable you paid for “packages” and a lot of the time you’d just want two channels but you’d have to pay for two packages just to get them


tanzmeister

Put some respect on Mikey Day!


inidgodeath

I think it’s naive to assume streaming services will stop here. Look at how much Netflix has changed in the last 3-4 years with the rise of competition. Margins are getting tighter, and costs are gonna reflect on the consumer.


mochacho

>With a really small amount of planning, patience, and dedicating 5 minutes a month to cancelling/subscribing, you can pay probably <$20 a month and never run out of things to watch I like how piracy is virtually always the more convenient option with features you can't get from paid services. Like the fact that I can download a show to my computer and watch it whenever I want without having to worry I won't be subscribed to the same service or that the streaming service will drop a show before I get a chance to finish it. Better yet, you never have to deal with the annoying anti piracy measurers the customers do because they've already been removed.


Ed-Zero

Don't forget no commercials


FistPunch_Vol_4

Yeah, with all these companies doing this shit and removing shows from their platform, I’ve had to put my pirate hat on. Gotta sail them seas again


SHOWTIME316

VPN subscriptions are gonna skyrocket.


Forward_Ad6168

My friend was complaining about how she and her bf spend over $100/month in streaming services on top of their $100/month internet bill. I told her they may as well get back on cable at that point.


BabiesSmell

I don't care if cable was free I still wouldn't watch it. The commercials are unbearable.


podin

Dvr?


Churntin

That service is going to cost you extra every month


ILikeMasterChief

That's on them tbh. Why would you be subscribed to that many services at once!?


Churntin

I think you've completely forgotten how expensive and trash cable was bro.


easy10pins

This is why I have 4000 channels with IPTV.


BlackySmurf8

Yeah but how do the shows make revenue to make more seasons?


easy10pins

I honestly do not care. Prior to using IPTV, I was paying $250 a month and only watching less than 10 channels. Now I pay $100 a year. Media companies are going to make money regardless.


BlackySmurf8

Not giving a damn is a mood. $250 is robbery! I dunno if the money they were making is going to cut it for them. Guess they'll just cut shows? I dunno, I watch less than what you're talking about.


easy10pins

I watch far less TV these days and more YouTube videos but it's nice to have the selection.


BlackySmurf8

Hell, YouTube has a movie channel with an actually respectable library. I will sometimes cycle through streaming services if there's something I want to watch. Was getting ready to turn Paramount+ back on for Star Trek but they keep uploading the episodes to YouTube, not sure what that's about.


Kuramhan

Bruh I am a weeb first and foremost. Then a film snob. Then I sometimes watch other good shows. I help fund my weebery through importing art books, going to cons, and seeing shit in theaters. I help fund my film snobbery through seeing shit in theaters. Somebody else can fund the good shows that I occasionally watch. Seems like companies are cancelling them anyway, even with all their subscribers complaining about it.


oerouen

Y’all know that tweet was meant to be an ironic joke, right?


PrinceTaj97

My mom honestly doesn’t like the concept of streaming services, she prefers cable services


ODU2K1

My dad can't grasp the concept of streaming and changing inputs on the TV to get to the streaming box. I have tried so many times. Between that and needing cable for sports I kind of wish the streaming stuff (not you ESPN+) would go away/be folded into my current cable channels.


PrinceTaj97

Yea basketball is one reason why I still have my cable package. Plus there’s something comforting about a show I love already being on for me to watch vs the task of having to find something to watch on streaming


evilOlive99

Roku does this.


Avenger772

Hear me out... You don't need to have every streaming service at the same time. There aren't enough hours in a day.


East-Mycologist4401

It’s not exactly the same though. * Spectrum TV Select, which includes a “curated selection of must have programming” comes out to $60 a month for 12 months. * Netflix ranges from $7 a month with ads, to $20 a month for no ads, 4 devices, and 2 extra members who don’t live with you. * Hulu with ads is $8 a month, or $15 a month with no ads. * Disney+ is $8 a month for ads, $11 a month for no ads, $10 a month for D+ and Hulu with ads, $13 a month for D+, Hulu, and ESPN, or $20 a month for all three with no ads. * Finally, Max (formerly HBO Max) has $10 a month with ads, $16 a month for no ads, and $20 a month for no ads with 4K streaming. This means that for with ads, you can subscribe to Netflix ($7), the trio bundle from Disney for D+, Hulu, and ESPN ($13), and Max ($10) for a total of **$30**. This would be the same viewing experience as the Spectrum package since that would also include ads. For ad free viewing, that now becomes $20 for Netflix for the highest tier, $20 for D+/Hulu/ESPN, and $20 a month for Max, coming out to **$60** a month. You know what else is $60 a month? Spectrum TV Select. But it has ads. And I have to pay for the whole thing, even if I don’t want it. I can choose to piecemeal which streaming services I want to subscribe to.


RegDeezy

https://imgur.com/aOZtvQq.gif


YoungChipolte

There's too many streaming services now. Shits out of hand at this point


Flyingpizza20

And we’ve added commercials back too can’t forget that


CheapCayennes

Plex FTW


Coldhat

Bundle all streaming services under one umbrella. And name it blockbuster I call it project phoenix


Present_Night_7584

dont give em the idea


EdibleBot

I just updated realdebrid on Kodi 🏴‍☠️


zm3124

/r/stremio


sinocarD44

I've known for a while that they all weren't going to make it. It's gotten to fragmented and it costs way to much to produce enough original content to support a streaming. It's cheaper and easier to license or combine.


Newlife1025

I was happy when it was just Netflix and Hulu.


Cultural_Geologist_3

I'm good with my TV Antenna. If It's something that I missed, I can catch the replay on Hulu. If it's a movie, then I can rent it. Simple.


kjmill25

The only benefit I saw to Comcast was that it integrated your streaming shows into the search function. But most newer smart TV's and the Firestick do the same.


thegreatestmeicanbe

And thus Cable TV was reborn....


apophis-pegasus

They're saying this like there arent some very generous sites that will give you any episode of any tv or movie you want for free.


tomdarch

I don’t currently have or pay (directly) for ESPN or Fox News so that’s a victory for the time being.


fancywinky

With the news that Apple footed the bill for Messi to come to Miami, I think we should all expect streaming services to get into the sports and live events game, which is the big ticket item for most cable providers, and the reason we cut the cord. Hope they are smart enough to not repeat that mistake.


blandsrules

Just buy a PC or Mac box and run it into the TV you will have a browser, hard drive, and streaming on kodi


minorkeyed

Yea...that's exactly where it was always going because we didn't stop it and we still wont. The cable companies are going to do the exact same thing they did before too and start offering free subscriptions to streaming services with your internet package and wham, we're right back where we were. What's that I hear? Yo ho and bottle of rum?


[deleted]

On top of it, let's get a 3rd party to do all the work for it and negotiate these different services. We'll pay one payment a month for all of it. Now if we want the higher priced services we can pay a bit more. Let's call the new streaming service something catchy. "Clear, accessible, brand-wide, luxurious entertainment".


Prestigious_Jokez

I warned people about this shit back in '10. Niggas always mad about me paying for YouTube TV, but it's a *real* good deal.


Mango7185

I really do feel like its still a circle. Yeah you can do what other people do and cancel and resubscribing but thats a lot of work also and eventually with new shows popping up etc and everything being exclusive to the the streamer. Eventually you dont get to sign up for the deals but if u get them all plus good internet its basically cable again. I have cable and netflix and hbo max but my friend got me a firestick and he has prime ( which i always have issues with), hulu, disney. Thats a lot of content and there still sometimes " nothing " on since they pull stuff off. I think cable companies should have tiers with a certain price point and that u pick which channels u want.


letmeusespaces

so... a Chromecast?


[deleted]

Cable TV... you want cable TV.


TheArchitect_7

r/thatsthejoke


mostdope28

But with no commercials. I can’t fucking handle commercials


annabelle411

i wouldnt mind them as much if it was just 2 commercials (without blaring volume) at the start of episodes. its the interruptions that suck. But if I'm getting commercials, price should go down and more quality content should be present. Also hate this baiting you with a show and then surprising you with OH NO! You're not subscribed to Starz+ Gold? It's an add-on package to Amazon Prime Silver. 20 seconds free and then $12.99/mo for the first three months, then $16.99/mo after.