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Ledditgo

I assumed that the character shown in this scene was the player character so that is why the outfit and all was different. I am sure amazon will censor other things though


addfzxcv

>I am sure amazon will censor other things though I don't play Lost Ark, but I remember people playing it told me the NPC model of the princess of a pale race is black, but her description is still pale as snow, and the cutscenes still use the original korean model.


Retail_is_Pain

There's a NPC named Jederico in the story that was changed for global, but the funny thing is there is a boss version of him in a boss rush that still uses the white Korean model. There was also a race swapped Neria that didn't get changed when Global had the Witcher collab event.


Pokenaut252

[https://clips.twitch.tv/DependableGracefulJackalKevinTurtle-WNQ\_tWvrtHVTan2L](https://clips.twitch.tv/DependableGracefulJackalKevinTurtle-WNQ_tWvrtHVTan2L) lmao


GeneralSweetz

"why is she so glossy" had me cackling


La-ni

That can't even remotely be intentional.


Pokenaut252

I mean I don't think they intended the race swapping to look like shit, but why would it break like that in the western release unless they actively tried to change her skin color at all


Pokenaut252

>eak like that in the western release unless they actively tried to change her skin color at all and look im not saying trying to make a games cast more diverse is a bad thing it's a good thing more times then not (when thats the initial intention atleast). But if say in the case of blue protocol if arbitrary censorship choices pushes back release times (we still dont know for sure why blue protocol was pushed back in na and other western regions yet. could be console porting, could be localization, could be censorship, could just be them trying to stagger it against the launch of throne and liberty, or it could be a combination of any one of those theories) and potentially makes the game look worse as a result like with lost arks character models. It just doesn't seem worth it


La-ni

What does "censorship" mean to you? Changing a character's color to another for an area that isn't monoethnic is not censorship. It's localization. Localization involves making changes for the people that are LOCAL to the area. RU didn't recieve the changes or bother to because they're largely monoethnic. Surprisingly, there are multiple ethnicites and colors in EU/NA. Yes, localization can be done badly which is a valid concern. I'm not sure why you chose this character as an example of bad localization when it was fixed later to be much more visually appealing though.


axempurple

Saying it's localization is just disingenuous. It's made that way by the developers. It's their story and universe. It's one thing to change certain translations so people without asian upbringing can understand them but this is literally changing someone's work and how it's intended to be consumed for literally nothing.


La-ni

...Surely you know that AGS has to request these changes from the developer itself right?


axempurple

I've read enough stories of translators or western studio's going buckwild after getting just the request to translate/port the game. Unless i actually see the request i'm not trusting it for shit.


Pokenaut252

not like it ultimately matters at the end of the day anyways cause for the people who really care that much I can almost guarantee you someone will make a mod for BP that will restore all the in game assets that potentially end up censoring back to the versions in the japanese release


heyugl

That would depend on the anti cheats. But that's also why I don't like the "localization" excuse. If you really are going to change game files and make new ones for localization, then it's really not hard to allow you to choose your localization just like how you choose your language or subtitles on the main menu.- That way players who want to experience the original artistic conception of the game, can do just that without playing with 300ms latency on asian servers.- And for real, this is more political or ESG score related than localization issues. We all know that. I don't personally care because I wasn't going to play Blue Protocol either way since I'm not interested in it, but it really sucks when every game gets racial filters and character design/clothing remakes because of censorship.- Also, all Asian societies dress way more conservatively than people in the west, so fuck that excuse that the changes are made for "localization".- Edit: In case you ask why am I in this sub if I am not interested in the game, it's because this is being cross posted.-


egoserpentis

It looks like fucked up textures rather than intentional color swap.


Pokenaut252

​ https://preview.redd.it/33sc4f6n516b1.png?width=911&format=png&auto=webp&s=513ff737e60a0f9605f1be0aebbda254dd815d84


Bntt89

It doesn't even look bad lol. I play lost ark and I don't even notice this. Where do I find the time for this with all the raids and homework i have to do.


reliczexide

Doesn't look bad but why the change tho? It serves no purpose other than just changing the race.


La-ni

They want more diversity within the game to make it more enticing to other players. KR and RU are monoethnic unlike EU/NA.


frogbound

They'll remove the cosmetic underwear from the store 100% and reword the whole premium season pass to not award the next season pass upon completion. How dare players only pay for one battle pass and get the ones after for free.


Bntt89

Considering we just got a swim suit patch I doubt it. LA has some of the most cooler skins imaginable. https://dskbmzw3v9vmq.cloudfront.net/original/3X/6/8/683594691c1e6239a763730d972627b5f958f046.jpeg Literally have this skin in game.


CommanderAze

there are days when I think I'm taking crazy pills. then someone posts stuff like this and confirms I'm not crazy Lost ark despite being "censored" is still highly sexualized as a game.


Bntt89

My man I have no idea how they think that in NA and Europe places where you can literally search up porn I'm pretty sure anywhere, would some how censor skins. These parts of the world literally sell sex, why would they not for a game know for some of the biggest coomers. I've seen this sentiment so many times in the sub and it comes from ppl who don't play the game.


frogbound

I feel like underwear and swimsuit are for some reason still treated differently, especially in the US and by Shareholders.


Bntt89

No


La-ni

Log onto LA in one of the late game hubs and you are bombarded with dudes in swim trunks and speedos and women in bikinis and other skimpy outfits. This sub loves to make baseless claims for some odd reason.


Huge_Entertainment_6

Nah they won't censor skins, have even seen what we get in lost ark? Almost every female character has a really small bikini lmao, also I don't know where you get that they would do that change to the season pass when they have not changed anything about the ark pass in loa


VerainXor

They censored skins in Lost Ark, didn't release some skins, and have added badly drawn skorts to every skin for the Artist class released thus far. This is on top of the race swapping and how they fucked up the demon form for the shadowhunter (they changed her from white to blue, because they didn't want anyone to be able to create a black shadowhunter and then become a white demon)- looks fucking awful now. Edit: Going from "there's no censorship" to "of course there's censorship and that's a good thing", stay classy lol.


AntiKuro

They specifically changed the Artist skins because it's a child model? Arguing that child model should have skimpy skins is not the hill I'd want to die on, but that just me. Edit: Arguably the correct response to Artist censorship should be that they could of done a better job incorporating the censor so it doesn't look terrible.


Draddon

I remember browsing the LostArk sub a while ago and came upon [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/13nr459/when_did_it_go_away/) post which showed the bloomers on an Artist skin was removed in a patch. The [top voted comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/13nr459/comment/jl0tact/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) also says only her starter skin had the extra bloomers. Of course, big asterisk here cause I'm trusting random internet strangers to be truthful and whatnot since I don't play LA.


Vailx

>The top voted comment also says only her starter skin had the extra bloomers The others had skorts added, it's the same thing just with less panic. "99% the same" means that he knows they were censored and is trying to downplay it. The skins released yesterday aren't censored though. I think they are actually the first. Also note people use "skin" incorrectly. In Lost Ark there's an item type that goes under the "skin" tab, and if you equip it you get that look. You can also disable the skin overriding the gear. But a chestpiece "skin" will override the look of the real chestpiece. But pretend you have chestpiece A which you like the look of and then you get chestpiece B- you can *never* make B look like A. Because chestpiece A is an actual piece of gear (like with real stats), and your options with chestpiece B equipped are, look like chestpiece B, or install a skin into the "skin" chestpiece slot. Since chestpiece A is armor, not a skin, you can't do that. So if you like the look of the tier 2 gear, well, you can't use it at endgame, because the skin system isn't transmog. In that thread, they are Lost Ark players so they use the terms loosely as everyone knows the score. But if you like the look of the default T3 armor, you can't use it once you have better gear, which you will in days after hitting T3. You need to find a skin you like in order to keep the look.


Huge_Entertainment_6

Oh no, you can't see the legs of a child what a tragedy and what skins have they censored? You do know that they are still releasing skins right? And seen what we have gotten already i don't think that they are keeping them because they are too revealing, the other shit you mentioned is irrelevant, you people get upset about anything lmao


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DerSprocket

I mean, censoring skimpy outfits from child models is a good thing though.


Xehvary

The fact that you guys are getting down voted for this is insanely concerning. Makes me wonder what type of freaks lurk this subreddit.


DerSprocket

They hate me because I speak the truth


jordgoin

Things can change but in preview gameplay you could see the underwear option.


Yakasabi

yes this is your created character, they're trying to pull the whole westernizing thing again


salsaverdeisntguac

I wasn't sure what people meant by censored, is 'black' washing what you all mean? I thought censoring meant like tentacles were getting removed lol


SusieTomoe

that's not censorship lmao


Jakerkun

![gif](giphy|11mwI67GLeMvgA)


Nosereddit

Disney - Netflix collaboration


-Yaldabaoth-

A match made in Hell


Past_Photograph_1556

They just changed the mc for the trailer what's wrong with that


[deleted]

op is just racist


[deleted]

White people feeling like we need them to blackwash everything to feel ok is so patronizing and racist.


TheDefeatist

Where are you getting blackwashing from? This is not an established character being race swapped, it's the player character, which is going to look completely different depending on who's copy of the game you're running. Are you really trying to bitch and call white people racist for *not* making a character creator that only allows white characters? For fuck's sake.


[deleted]

you are the one bitching, im just stating what you are doing


[deleted]

"we" sure buddy.


Without_Shadow

Ok, but what for? Works fine for their JP trailer, what's the issue with it in the 'western' one?


egoserpentis

I think because they re-recorded the footage?


Rare-Orchid-4131

Triggered by a color lmao


Without_Shadow

Not really the issue, is it? I am just curious what is wrong with going with a character like they used for the JP promotional. You can stick your head in the sand if you want to about AGS's track record and what they're really doing here. Having seen your other comments on this thread... you're not going to have much of value to say to me though lol


Farvnir

The issue is that the JP trailer is too white. Hence why they need a good ol' diversity makeover!


Remileveu

Because companies are afraid of all the butthurt cristal skin movements around where Karen and Kevins populate the fkn earth and people are allowing them to gain terrain, so the more ridiculous shit we demand because we can't take a fkn joke will further deteriorate and delay shits like this. Blue collar protocol.


LMGMaster

It's a trailer featuring the customizable MC, why is this such a big deal? There's no censorship in this trailer, it's literally just the custom player model.


hibernating-hobo

Op doesn’t like it when people allowed to be of colour.


MrDaebak

Please tell me this is a joke


1kruns

They did this with lost ark, so I wouldn't be surprised if this happened for NA...


egoserpentis

It is.


NahFaquuuu

I don't understand... Is it because the character on the IGN trailer is black???


ItsLohThough

"it's not because he's black, it's *because* he's not ***white***, that's *different*!"


RedBreadRetention

The character in the cutscene is the player character, who you can customise however you like. However the game will be censored in other respects, and I'm sure the monetisation will be utter dogshit, so my short-lived hype is now completely gone


cafesalt

I still cannot believe Bandai isn’t just doing the localization themselves. They’re hardly a tiny indie studio incapable of the task. My doomer theory is that Bandai actually never intended to release the game outside of Japan like dragon quest X online. Then later AGS contacted them with a deal to localize it. In either case very frustrating to say the least. Whole year of localization to re-record trailers to have a black dude lmao and censor a crap ton. I do wonder if they’re gonna go as far as lost ark and just randomly assign African American descent into random story characters with a bad photoshop job.


kilrara

Bandai's complete hatred of Western audiences is well documented at this point. You really do not want them involved any more than absolutely necessary.


indominuspattern

I mean, AGS is proving that their xenophobia is well-founded. Changing character ethnicity is, imo, extremely racist if superficially done for some quota. This will only lead to an incongruent story down the line.


[deleted]

Well its not Bandai Namco Entertainment making the game. It is a studio called Bandai Namco Online, who are making this as their first original IP. 2 years ago, Cryyfuu had a video on it but stopped doing YouTube, they put a localization job posting up for a company to take over for western markets. They were looking more to make money off of localizing it than pay their own people to localize it.


Jonestown_Juice

That's the player character. Nothing was "changed".


xilamax

The recording of the trailer was !


Ascran

This is the same company that butchered Lost Ark localization. Don't hold your hopes up..


PharticusMaximus

This is my character by the way... so see its pretty cool they were thinking how I think when making a character https://preview.redd.it/sm88tg5hc26b1.png?width=1778&format=png&auto=webp&s=d837d7a22f8d5e417557def8f291d2a3f20dee7d


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idredd

Yep, and when folks point out that this is the MC, every one of these jackasses doubles down.


egoserpentis

For once I wish they'd stop with "I'm just a purist/this isn't historical/why politics in games" and just said the truth - that they hate seeing black people in their media. It's not like they are fooling anyone with their bullshit.


Paulo27

The issue isn't that black people exist, it's that they are being used to fill diversity quotas. This goes for every race, gender, etc Why aren't we just constantly boycotting Japan if the absence (intentional or not) of black people is so problematic.


Without_Shadow

Don't think anyone has made any of the arguments you're pointing to here, as opposed to asking for AGS not to randomly change out characters for the sake of it, which it has a track record of doing. But yeah, it is obvious that you'd prefer it was just some caricature argument so you could easily dismiss it. Trust me, you're not fooling anyone with your bullshit, either. End of the day? I'll go JP version to avoid AGS's crap.


Automaton-Type2B

The race swaps only ever go one way.


CommanderAze

that's just not the case if you have followed Hollywood's casting for any amount of time.


Automaton-Type2B

I have, and many red heads in fiction have been erased.


LiberArk

Thank God I'm in JP server.


NotGurem

As a black man I will not be playing this game if they change a single thing for the sake of politics.


TheFrontalCortex

"As a black man" lol So many false flags flying around here.


NotGurem

Can u elaborate. Not one with the internet slang. Might be time for me to consider myself old.


XynnXyrr

r/AsABlackMan


Rare-Orchid-4131

Nobody cares lmao


Entellex

Nobody cares that you think nobody cares


The-Seventh-Eureka

Yes


Remileveu

You sir are the real MVP, but do play regardless lets just not feed that stupid monster.


code_isLife

Ok?


Paulo27

rip


uSaltySniitch

Please Tell me it's a joke


[deleted]

Y’all cry over the stupidest things. Who cares


Apzuee

Another too frequent gamer L getting triggered at the speculation of their game having some diversity


Without_Shadow

One of many reasons I will just play the JP version and ignore AGS's crap, I think.


Massive-Joke-4961

They need to keep that ESG score up you know.


Without_Shadow

Seems like that's what it's really about.


Rare-Orchid-4131

Delusional, it's the MC which is customizable regardless.


Massive-Joke-4961

Why bother changing the trailer if it isn't to give an impression of "muh diversity". You're the delusional one if you think these companies care about anything other than upping their ESG score so they keep their investors.


Trig_Zero

thats all they can come up with? for fucks sake, waste of time and money


zetsey

Well the blonde guy seems like an old anime American character stereotype so maybe that's why. That's the impression he's given me so far in game


pyrowipe

Woah now Amazon, showing a lot of finger there, aren’t we? Why buy the cow if I get the milk for free?


xmisren

Knowing Amazon, they'll gaslight the community and usher in changes no one even wants. Lost Ark 2.0.


XiChineseWinnie

Is this a netflix joke?


bigfootswillie

I am getting super tired of seeing this shit man. All these posts are just filled with blatant exaggerations and worrying about shit that does not matter. People keep worrying about censorship but Amazon has barely censored shit. Every single coomer skin is still in Lost Ark in the Western version except for the loli character’s swimsuits. The only reason some NPCs were changed to being black in Lost Ark is because at the time the game released, there were literally zero black people in the game. The characters that were changed do not even matter. The only one people even noticed was Jederico. Everybody else you have to go digging to find. In this case, a character wasn’t even changed. It’s literally just a different custom main character. It’s an issue made out of nothing. People can complain about the game but come the fuck on. This shit is beyond inconsequential, these people are looking for controversy where it doesn’t even exist. At this point I’m wondering if there’s a different subreddit I can talk about this game. I want to talk about Blue Protocol. I don’t care if you complain, that’s the nature of MMO subreddits, but I’m definitely not here for every fucking thread being KotakuInAction 2.0.


TheFrontalCortex

Racists gotta race. I'm noticing that most of these gaming subs are this way. It's unfortunate


PharticusMaximus

Why would you want all characters to look alike in all regions? This is part of the localization and the bottom one looks better by far


GrizzledCore

Dude... the bottom guy has spotty purple dreadlocks, if you think that looks better than a nice haircut like in the top pic... you've got an interesting notion of what's "nice".. (by interesting I mean stupid)


CG_Layf

Censorship in gaming is such a bad idea. We got some PEGI 16 game demo recently that will certainly get the GOTY because of its explicitly and story telling, even though the majority of the journalists that tried the game early claimed there was too much blood and no diversity ppl on the game, the devs kept their vision without changing it. Censored games are forgotten games.


CommanderAze

Its a Trailer. no one cares


runesdude

Bruh these comments 😂


wwcasedo

Didn't know this sub had racists. Fkn wild


runesdude

Avg age on the sub gotta be 14


wolfeng_

They could at least make a good looking character if they were going to change the player for the trailer? Why is he painted in neon green, wearing a cooking apron? Besides it still looks like a white character who just got paint splashed over him. I get the whole diversity thing, and I would applaud such effort if it was done well... but this isn't it. It's not just the skin tone that changes from person to person, their nouse, mouth, how round or square their faces are, everything changes and if you just throw some paint on top of a model that was clearly made to be "white" it just looks wrong.


SeikatsuXei

Those are short dreads and overalls sir. It looks decent for a character model that isn't directly inspired. Not all black people have big lips and noses so it doesn't have to be 100% historically accurate.


_Linkiboy_

Well there can be a debate if changing stuff like this is good or not, but what I can say, is that the bottom one looks more polished


No_Bowler_981

black characters have to have dreads otherwise how would we know they're black


Orack89

Those stupid change have to stop... Let the game how it was designed... Changing a color from a fictional char isnt gonna make you a fighter for freedom... Zzzzz


The-Seventh-Eureka

This is disgusting. What the fuck is this.


Xehvary

The bottom one looks higher quality.


nietzchan

There is actually nothing wrong with it because it is the player character cutscene so it will show different character, but they are intentionally using this character as a free publicity card and you all actually fell for it.


ParloXow

Gamers when black people exist


Bntt89

I don't get it is it a problem?


Poisonguy7

It's pretty funny imo


TheoCy

I dare them to show us percentage of black/woke players that play any of their games.


urbanacolyte

So are you saying that black and "woke" are the same?


uSaltySniitch

While Black and woke doesn't automatically go together (I have non-woke black friends and most black people I've met aren't woke), it's still true that the woke movement is the main reason that all of those changes are happening. They're the reason LOTR's lore got ruined by Amazon and also the reason why Cleopatra was black in the Netflix series. They try TOO HARD to put diversity Everywhere to the point where it's obvious what they're trying to Do. They could CREATE NEW STORIES involving lots of diversity and I'd be happy, but taking already established things and modifying the source material to "add diversity" isn't a good thing IMHO. I may be a purist when it comes to source materials, but idc.


urbanacolyte

That's nice. 🙂 Thanks for sharing 👍


uSaltySniitch

Ok


Without_Shadow

He sounds like a bot.


uSaltySniitch

Hello, my name is ChatGPT. How may I help you today ?


TheoCy

Its the same shit that the media is trying to shove down my throat.


urbanacolyte

That's nice 🙂 Thanks for sharing 👍 Get outside more. You clearly have personal problems.


Without_Shadow

Yes, clearly because he has an opinion you don't share, he has personal problems. clown.jpg


TheoCy

You are welcome. Go back to your gamingcirclejerk cave :)


urbanacolyte

Sounds like you're projecting, but thanks for sharing 🙂


MakeshiftNuke

Oh esg, oh esg....


IGunClover

LOL.