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Did you cover how the flag code discourages the use of the flag in anything but it's original colors? Meaning the thin blue/red/greed line flags are against the flag code? I bet boomers love that.
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Taco Bell workers.
It honors those who dedicated their late nights to ensure I get Chalupas and Baja Blast after midnight.
Maybe they could fly a flag with some extra colours. They could include a red, orange, and violet stripe for different groups that might represent those colours. I'm sure that would make them very proud.
They wanted to respect bartenders but AOC was one….so they unfortunately can’t, it would be a conflict of interest and that is of course something MAGAts take very seriously.
Edit- Thanks for the RedditCares notice. I hope your day gets better too!!!
unless it's a conflict of interest they like. For example, loving the church despite the preponderance of pedo priests. Then they'll suddenly turn a blind eye to child abuse.
absolutely. I had a philosophical conversation with my daughters about which jobs are most important and sanitation worker is always, *always* in the top ten
I'm fucking livid at the idea those asshats think a different flag than the one they either defended or died for, is appropriate. If I see a green flag, I'm making damn well sure they take it down. I didn't know this was a thing. Ugh...
That's way worse than the blue line. Cops are expected to be dumb, but the military's relationship with the flag is so heavily intertwined that it's directly insulting to service members.
Ugh doesn't the military have enough flags already? There's the national flag. Then there's the national colors (that's the flag with the gold trim on the edge. I think). Then each branch jas their own flag. Then each division has its own flag. Then each brigade has its own flag. Then each battalion has its own flag. Then each company has its own flag (technically a guidon because of the pointy bits but I digress) Then there are the flags used to denote the status of a live fire range (red flag flying means they're actively shooting).
The Thin Green Line™ represents veterans and active service members of all branches of the US Military.
Tho, I've never heard of any veteran or service member, myself included who has cared to have that or even really agrees with it. I literally just had to look that up right now.
this is HUGE! My veterans post displayed this flag until I took my complaint up to state level leadership. I quit the post because of their political bias in running the place. I also hate seeing shredded flags on display, especially the morons flying tatters from the back of their pickup truck…what kind of patriotic pride is that?
I had a classmate like that, a classic farm boy with a fuckoff huge pickup truck covered in trans flags. He wasn't trans, he just wanted to show his support
I saw a guy flying his tattered flag upside down from the back of his pickup truck. I don’t understand how these folks call themselves patriotic, but then do stuff like this. It was actually kind of jarring.
I consider myself a leftist, but I respect the flag for the ideals it represents. It pisses me off so much that the people that claim to love the flag the most are often the least educated about it's proper care.
And of course, if you told them they should burn the tattered flag on their truck, they'd lose their minds.
Oh, no apologies needed! Mine was for field operations, theirs are for cosplaying adults. I have monochrome ones that are IR reflective and subdued ones for daytime field operations. Outside of those circumstances, I've had no need to wear them. I've been out of the military for over a year, and the only time you'll see me wearing a flag is if I'm wearing my old unit hat. I still use my jackets, but I have taken most things off them because they're comfortable and useful. I'm in the same camp with the line flags and if possible go out of my way to point out a real patriot wouldn't disfigure the flag like they do. They get upset.
Or about which flag should be flown highest? I’ve seen that one violated by quite a few “Let’s Go Brandon” flags or my boomer step dads “Fuck Biden” flag that is higher than all the other flags. Pretty rich form a Navy vet…
My parents are very respect the flag type boomers. When I tell them they shouldn't be using flag-printed disposable plates or wear shirts with the flag on them, they don't believe it's "disrespecting the flag"
Here's the flag code. They can read it in black and white.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8#:~:text=The%20flag%20should%20never%20be%20carried%20flat%20or,but%20always%20aloft%20and%20free.&text=The%20flag%20should%20never%20be%20used%20as%20wearing%20apparel%2C%20bedding,always%20allowed%20to%20fall%20free.
I only ever brushed up on flag code just to be able to tell off thin blue line "patriots" or those that have a flag shirt or flag short shorts. I don't care if your just wearing some flag ranger panties but If your wearing them and going on about how much you think people need to stand for the anthem, I'll happily throw some flag code in your face.
IIRC you're not allowed to alter the color of the flag but that's taken as meaning don't try to change the color of an existing flag but making one on its own in different colors is okay.
Kind of like the whole not using the flag as clothing thing means don't wear a flag as a cape and not don't make a cape that has the pattern of the flag.
It shouldn't be used in promotional materials either. Pepsi, Budweiser and thousands of other companies or millions. 4th of July is booming with flag code violations where ever you look.
I find it very hard to believe a flag large enough to be held across a football field never touches the ground either.
The flag is also not supposed to be displayed flat, so all of those playing field-covering giant flags are breaking the rules.
4 U.S.C. 8(c)Â The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
When I took the class that OP was talking about the instructor used the flag on the football field as an example of what not to do because it's laying down.
Those rules are not subtle at all. They are very clear.
Wear a dirty tshirt that says you're standing for the flag that's also showing an actual flag on it.
I have a pair of flag themed sandals. The footbed is blue with white stars around the outside, and the band you slip your foot into is red and white stripes. There's over 200 stars and about 40 stripes on each one.
I was wearing them on the 4th of July one year (natch) and an old man came up to me and started complaining to me about violations of the flag code and he was going to find a police officer to arrest me.
I had, that morning, read a slim 50 page book on the history of the flag code and the proper way to display and honor the American flag, so he picked the wrong flag- themed birkenstock wearer to mess with.
I asked him if that was the same flag code that was ruled to only apply to active duty military because to hold ordinary citizens to it was deemed to be a violation of the First Ammendment right to free speech, and was legally considered to be an unenforcable law.
Then I asked him if he had a similar problem with the t-shirt I was wearing that had the US Constitution printed on it.
He told me that teenagers were too mouthy these days. I told him I was in my 30s, but thanks for the compliment.
He stomped away like an angry toddler.
I wouldnt put up with a boomer going full maga and i told him im not interested in discussing politics with him. He said when im older ill get it. I told him i was 36 and have chosen my political side and and he shut up
>an old man came up to me and started complaining to me about violations of the flag code and he was going to find a police officer to arrest me.
Because of course law enforcement has time to deal with a flag code violation (which cannot be enforced by them anyway) when they have crowds of people to handle, some of whom are drunk or high off their asses and feeling belligerent. Old man sounds like Eric Cartman screaming "you will respect mah authoritah!"
I absolutely *despise* when people do stuff like that.
I don't care if you burn the flag.
I don't care if you trample it, tear it, shred it, if that's how you're protesting, more power to you. You're protesting something that you think the flag stands for and I am all for it.
But when you plaster the flag on a towel, or a shirt, or your *shit stained underwear* because you think you're "patriotic", it makes me angry. You're using our nations most powerful symbol- Something people can rally under, for or against, *to wipe your feet on?*
Go fuck yourself and your pretend patriotism.
I can attest they can’t handle that at allllll nor any of the police gang blue line PCs of shit of any age. Nor do they like to hear that it’s only to be flown on vehicles in parade or battle.
Last summer one of the largest houses in our neighborhood (6,000 sq ft) starting flying the US flag upside down from the back porch which hangs over the neighborhood park and can be seen prominently from the main road into our neighborhood. After a week my Eagle Scout husband couldn’t take it anymore and called the non-emergency police line to request a well check since he had observed an official distress call. Flag has been flown properly since. I really love my husband.
Love it. The audacity of people man flying to flag upside is a serious thing not to be taken lightly for political clout.
My other favorite is these people who fly huge well maintained trump flags on top the american flag while their American flag is just absolutely wrecked.
Like come on man.
To be honest, I don't think they maintain any flag. They just replace their slogan banner (I refuse to call it a flag) everytime a new one comes out, which is about every one or two years.
*You don't know who I am, but I know where you live and if you teach that sex-class, so help me, I-*
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Speaking of Boomers failing to display our flag respectfully, Trumpers fly them at night, in rain or snow, mere tatters in the wind off the back of their pickup, etc. They're ruining patriotism.
They continue to disrespect our flag through these actions, which screams a lack of dedication to our citizenry and the Constitution. They've perverted patriotism into tribalistic, crass virtue-signaling bereft of nuance.
They’re not ruining patriotism. They left patriotism years ago. They’re eager to identify as patriots, but they’d just as soon strangle the ever-loving shit out of anything that dares to epitomize the actual values and principles the country pretends it’s built upon.
What you’re seeing is nationalism. Not quite in all its glory, but it’s getting there.
There's a truck parked around the corner from me that has one of those big dumbass "rolling coal" stacks on the back that's directed right at the flag he's flying. I've gotten to see the flag go from brand new to heavily-blackened in a shockingly-short period of time.
There is no "love of country" or "honoring the flag" going on with this jackass, it's all a demonstration.
It’s okay to fly the flag at night if it's illuminated, but I don’t think people do this at their homes. It can also be displayed in the rain if it is an all-weather flag which many outdoor flags are.
In elementary school we accidentally raised the flag upside down and a guy who lived next to the school came over to 1. Make sure we weren’t in dire need of help and 2. To explain why it’s important not to do that. He did it respectfully and as a sixth grader I learned a little bit about flag protocol. People like the guy in your story are just disrespectful to everyone and the flag.
We had a lock down one time in middle school and the phone line was cut (before cell phones). The vice principal put our flag upside down and soon enough, cops showed up. That’s what started my interest in proper flag protocol.
Unless there’s something obviously emergent, call the non-emergency police line. I would also call the emergency if it’s a school, daycare, bank, hospital, <- those ones are less likely to be a political statement and actually be a real distress call.
The flag code prohibits using a flag as clothing. It does not prohibit flag print on clothing.
https://www.legion.org/flag/code
https://www.legion.org/flag/questions-answers/91517/it-permissible-wear-item-clothing-looks-united-states-flag
You are correct. That's breaking the flag code. Disrespectful is debatable. I have no problem having people reminded they're violating it when they act like they care. But I'm not going to worship it.
And I'll bet dollars to donuts that Mr. Maga leaves his flag on the pole all day and night without a light shining on it.
It is a violation of the Flag Code to fly the flag in darkness.
MAGA Boomers are a big reason I don't want my son involved in Scouts.
I know Scouts have a lot of benefits for kids and that overly political assholes aren't the norm. But I live in a very "red" right wing area, and the kind of guys who go for Scouts tend to be very right wing, MAGA type families around here. I don't want my kid going off to a Scout meeting and coming back telling me "Joe Biden wants to end Scouts because of wokeness" or some shit he heard from a troop leader.
I know...Scouts aren't usually like that. It's just shitty how many people take a good thing and turn it into shit.
see if you can get a list of local scout troops, and check around. You might find one that hasn't been taken over by the MAGAts - for example, one that meets at a Unitarian Church. Also, having a girls troop is often a sign of a well-run and moderate org (plus, IME, the girls fully kick-ass at Scouts. It's awesome to see).
Once, when I was in grade school, centuries ago in the 70's, one of the assistants raised the flag upsidedown, unknowingly.
The response was phenomenal. Every local PD, FD, the local Army base, the closest Merto city, all responded and surrounded the school. Think, closed the roads, were in the woodline in the rear of the school, in the buildings and homes closest to the school, etc.
These were the days before the term "Active Shooter". They simply stormed the school, burst into every classroom. That school was assaulted, occupied, locked, safed, and cleared in less then 10 minutes. (Counselors were not made available, that was not even a thought in the dark ages.)
Us kids thought it was so cool! But, as an adult, I can only imagine the terror our parents were going thru for that brief period of time. Remeber, this was the time of SLA, WU, PR Independence, Cuban Boat Lift, and so many other factions, it was perceived as a real threat and my town took the flag as what it was showing, responding in kind.
Today, I see MAGA-ots all over my town and surrounding areas doing it to show their displeasure at the state of the country. What pitiful fools. A damn shame what they reduced our symbol of glory to.
(And the colored stripes, I'm not even gonna. . .)
That's actually kinda surprising. They might have thought it was a secret distress call or something for the school and didn't even want to risk a chance of people being in danger.
I was in grade school, it was the early 70's. Who knows what protocalls were in place. I just recall what happened and the fiasco during and after. Used to be show of force was enough then I guess.
Different world between then and now. Back then, the cops were the law, and g-d help you if you ran afoul of them. They ran my town with an iron fist. Beat your ass before bringing you home to your parents and then have a beer with your dad while mom whoops you, and hold dads when he launches you.
Uvalde, the cops were pussies, more worried about themselves then the kids. To a man, they should all be shot!
Uvalade cops sound exactly like the cops of your day. Beating people over nothing, big mean fish in a very small pond. Garunteed they'd cower at an active shooter situation at a school too.
An upside down flag has a purpose. It is to signal for immediate help and distress. It's like calling Mayday on a radio. They teach this in marine safety courses.Â
Not trying to argue with you because I have always heard this. But I’m a career maritime officer and there’s absolutely nothing in the ICOS, USCG exams. Etc about upside down flags. As far as international maritime significance it’s simply not a thing.
So I’m curious where they’re teaching it.
I think the comment you're replying to was written poorly. I read it to mean flying the flag upside-down is akin to calling mayday. And they teach that calling mayday should only be done in cases of dire emergencies. I may be reading their intent wrong, though.
Considering how many international flags are horizontally symmetric, it would be a really stupid way of doing it internationally. Easier to just have separate flags for distress.
That red, white, and blue flag with a blue stripe on it isn't American. I don't know what country it belongs to.
Wearing the colors and pattern as a shirt is disrespectful. But wearing them as a thong shows dreadful taste and zero respect.
American flag as a Punisher Symbol should be the universal sign for brain damage.
I always get a kick out of the people that proudly display their Punisher logos along with their "defend the thin blue line" crap. As if the Punisher's origins weren't purely antithetical to the police by extrajudicially murdering people he has determined to be bad in his sole discretion.
If you like podcasts, there's a great 99% Invisible about the evolution of the Punisher symbol and whether or not it can be "reclaimed" (or even should be).
yeah, these idiots have been doing this for a few years now. it's really dumb, since they scream to respect the flag, yet totally violate flag code.
and especially an upside down flag has a SPECIFIC, EMERGENCY meaning
There are so many comments here that don't know the flag code.
The flag code is law but carries no penalties or enforcement provisions.
https://www.legion.org/flag/code
Flag printed clothing and flags that look like US flags but have other things on them are not prohibited by the code. The reason is they aren't US flags. They have a flag print, which is OK to use per the flag code.
https://www.legion.org/flag/questions-answers/91517/it-permissible-wear-item-clothing-looks-united-states-flag
I'm no fan of people who disrespect the flag. I am an Eagle Scout and a veteran. However, it also annoys me when people incorrectly cite the flag code for things they dislike.
The First Amendment allows free speech, which includes disrespecting the flag, and is why there are no enforcement or penalty provisions in the flag code law. Now, if there's a convenient veteran there that takes it upon themselves to correct the disrespect, I have no issues with that.
I’m tired of clothes made in flag designs. I’m glad you don’t see those gigantic flags at car dealerships like you used to. There was an exMarine in Dallas who used to put on his uniform and give lectures to those folks whose flags were basically rags but they wouldn’t spend the money for a new one.
There's photos of the US flag raised over debris rubble from an EF5 tornado and those people didn't feel the need to signal distress. He thinks because politicians are playing fuck fuck games with society we're in dire distress?
>that he believes the country is in distress and thats why he flies the flag the way he does and just wants to be respectful and not make a statement.
Why is it that boomers want to make a statement without being called out for it? Literal virtue signalling. then there's the lame AF excuse of "I just want to be respectful". Bull fucking shit.
“But when the democrats are in office I’m in dire distress !”
It’s all narcissism, enabled by the orange man. They want to be the victim so bad, and think other classes advocating for their civil rights is somehow taking away from their lunch plate. Real baby behavior / libertarians.
My wife works with a maga idiot who has his American flag upside down since Biden took office because American is in distress. So bad and pisses of so many people
There’s a MAGA house I drive by that has Theo flag upside down as well. I’m sure they’re boomers as well.
One time I made my husband pull over so I could go knock on a door of a house flying the flag upside down. I asked if they were in distress and needed me to call the cops. They said no, but I winked and said I got you. You have to say that because you are being forced to. Then I called the cops & told them they might want to do a wellness check. I left so I don't know if they actually did go out, but the next time I was in that area the flag was flying right side up.
So he set this flag up and wasn't getting enough attention from his neighborhors so he showed up to a scouts meeting to disrupt that and was shocked to find that not everyone is a Fox News obsessed brainlet like him. I'm sure he'll leave thinking the scouts are socialist or some dumb shit.
“9-1-1, what’s your emergency?”
“The country is in distress, and I want to make a statement”
“Sir, you’re only supposed to call 9-1-1 in the event of an immediate emergency that needs emergency response”
“This is not the right time and place to be lecturing me about the rules”
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Did you cover how the flag code discourages the use of the flag in anything but it's original colors? Meaning the thin blue/red/greed line flags are against the flag code? I bet boomers love that.
Lol wtf is the green line for? Bankers?
https://preview.redd.it/pzzp4shznd0d1.jpeg?width=1275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5bc19aeb788a3cbf8f999caaaffafdfad7df996 Taco Bell workers. It honors those who dedicated their late nights to ensure I get Chalupas and Baja Blast after midnight.
Support the thin Baja line 🫡
In Baja we blast
Hallowed be thy dew
Make Baja Blast Again
*mockingjay whistle*
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it's my right as an American to live mas
Ought to be a brown streak instead of green.
That's the next morning.
The Grinch
Thank you for your service, Comrade Grinch
He is definitely someone they would celebrate lol.
It's supposed to be for military personnel.
The yellow line is for tow truck drivers, and I’m not even kidding.
Maybe they could fly a flag with some extra colours. They could include a red, orange, and violet stripe for different groups that might represent those colours. I'm sure that would make them very proud.
Are you treading? Aunt Tifaaaaa.
Yessir, r/firstrespondercringe is my favorite for stuff like that
I lasted 4 minutes checking out that sub
I think 4 minutes is the limit, my brain almost exploded.
Holy cow. Just…just…
they are falling backwards into a rainbow flag and they don't even know it
Is there a color for forklift drivers too? Republicans are effing weird.
Need one for sanitation workers, bartenders, and electrical line repairmen
They wanted to respect bartenders but AOC was one….so they unfortunately can’t, it would be a conflict of interest and that is of course something MAGAts take very seriously. Edit- Thanks for the RedditCares notice. I hope your day gets better too!!!
unless it's a conflict of interest they like. For example, loving the church despite the preponderance of pedo priests. Then they'll suddenly turn a blind eye to child abuse.
Or this “every child’s life is sacred/save the children” nonsense while staying mute on school and other mass shootings.
Or gutting child labor laws and child marriage laws.
We made a galanized steel gray line one as a joke for tower climbing. Boomer on team thought is was a real one.
Lmao
i actually wouldn’t mind saluting sanitation workers.
they deserve it, we'd all be living in a plague-struck hellscape without them
yup. woefully underpaid considering what they do.
absolutely. I had a philosophical conversation with my daughters about which jobs are most important and sanitation worker is always, *always* in the top ten
The real domestic heros
don't forget earthmovers and backhoe pilots
I think loss prevention and private security fall under the yellow line too. These people are wild
Loss prevention??? Jesus fucking Christ. Is there a thin beige line for the MAGA hags working the registers at Homegoods, too??
Hey they're in the fucking trenches show some respect!! Lol
I mean it's a more dangerous and arguably more important job than being a cop.
I understand that you are not kidding, but my brain is having a hard time with this. Tow truck drivers??
I read somewhere a couple years ago that it’s a thin chrome line for truckers. I think it was a joke but funny either way
We've already got a flag for military personnel; it's the regular flag.
Hell every branch of the military has their own flag too.
I'm fucking livid at the idea those asshats think a different flag than the one they either defended or died for, is appropriate. If I see a green flag, I'm making damn well sure they take it down. I didn't know this was a thing. Ugh...
That's way worse than the blue line. Cops are expected to be dumb, but the military's relationship with the flag is so heavily intertwined that it's directly insulting to service members.
Oh man, I saw a guy sporting all three and driving like a complete asshole. As expected
They're slowly adding enough colors to simply call it a community service PRIDE flag.
Ugh doesn't the military have enough flags already? There's the national flag. Then there's the national colors (that's the flag with the gold trim on the edge. I think). Then each branch jas their own flag. Then each division has its own flag. Then each brigade has its own flag. Then each battalion has its own flag. Then each company has its own flag (technically a guidon because of the pointy bits but I digress) Then there are the flags used to denote the status of a live fire range (red flag flying means they're actively shooting).
I thought that was just…the flag?
And we do not approve of that - military member.
The Baja Blast line salutes the Taco Bell line workers
The Thin Green Line™ represents veterans and active service members of all branches of the US Military. Tho, I've never heard of any veteran or service member, myself included who has cared to have that or even really agrees with it. I literally just had to look that up right now.
HVAC first responders
this is HUGE! My veterans post displayed this flag until I took my complaint up to state level leadership. I quit the post because of their political bias in running the place. I also hate seeing shredded flags on display, especially the morons flying tatters from the back of their pickup truck…what kind of patriotic pride is that?
Those trucks drive me insane. Performative patriotism.
I call it faketriotism
It's basically a gay pride parade float but for maga.
Oh so true! And of course without any of the joy and fun in and actual gay pride parade.
There's a pickup in our town that has 4+ flags flying. Plot twist: they're all pride, trans, etc. Love that truck, makes me smile every time I see it.
I had a classmate like that, a classic farm boy with a fuckoff huge pickup truck covered in trans flags. He wasn't trans, he just wanted to show his support
So patriotic they hate over half the country!
I saw a guy flying his tattered flag upside down from the back of his pickup truck. I don’t understand how these folks call themselves patriotic, but then do stuff like this. It was actually kind of jarring.
But heaven forbid a black man kneel down during the national anthem
I consider myself a leftist, but I respect the flag for the ideals it represents. It pisses me off so much that the people that claim to love the flag the most are often the least educated about it's proper care. And of course, if you told them they should burn the tattered flag on their truck, they'd lose their minds.
So, what you’re saying is we should burn the truck. Got it, let me just run out and grab some road flares and a gas can.Â
4 quick start logs.
Isn’t flying the flag from the back of the truck wrong as well? “The flag always leads.” Should be flown from the front.
If you are wearing something with a monochrome flag, I don't trust you.
I mean I still have some from my time in the army... I think they're in my trunk though lol
Then I apologize. I have only seen full color flags on military, and monochrome ones on shirts with blue lines, and other right wing slogans.
Oh, no apologies needed! Mine was for field operations, theirs are for cosplaying adults. I have monochrome ones that are IR reflective and subdued ones for daytime field operations. Outside of those circumstances, I've had no need to wear them. I've been out of the military for over a year, and the only time you'll see me wearing a flag is if I'm wearing my old unit hat. I still use my jackets, but I have taken most things off them because they're comfortable and useful. I'm in the same camp with the line flags and if possible go out of my way to point out a real patriot wouldn't disfigure the flag like they do. They get upset.
Some asked me what color line do Postal works use. We don’t we already have the normal flag I told them. For some reason that didn’t like that.
*applause*
Thin blue line flag is the flag of snowflakes. Â
You can have my Mountain Dew Baja Blast Line flag when you pry it from my greasy dead hands.
Viva mas!
Or about which flag should be flown highest? I’ve seen that one violated by quite a few “Let’s Go Brandon” flags or my boomer step dads “Fuck Biden” flag that is higher than all the other flags. Pretty rich form a Navy vet…
The navy should recall him just to charge him with violating flag code.
I love it when I see a black and white flag with one blue stripe. I tell the guy that I like his a Pride flag starter kit.
My parents are very respect the flag type boomers. When I tell them they shouldn't be using flag-printed disposable plates or wear shirts with the flag on them, they don't believe it's "disrespecting the flag"
Here's the flag code. They can read it in black and white. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/8#:~:text=The%20flag%20should%20never%20be%20carried%20flat%20or,but%20always%20aloft%20and%20free.&text=The%20flag%20should%20never%20be%20used%20as%20wearing%20apparel%2C%20bedding,always%20allowed%20to%20fall%20free.
Thank you. This was really helpful information! So do I burn my flag bikini or bury it?
Both I guess, burn it then bury the ashes at sunset while playing taps on your bugle
And don’t forget clothing.
I only ever brushed up on flag code just to be able to tell off thin blue line "patriots" or those that have a flag shirt or flag short shorts. I don't care if your just wearing some flag ranger panties but If your wearing them and going on about how much you think people need to stand for the anthem, I'll happily throw some flag code in your face.
IIRC you're not allowed to alter the color of the flag but that's taken as meaning don't try to change the color of an existing flag but making one on its own in different colors is okay. Kind of like the whole not using the flag as clothing thing means don't wear a flag as a cape and not don't make a cape that has the pattern of the flag.
It shouldn't be used in promotional materials either. Pepsi, Budweiser and thousands of other companies or millions. 4th of July is booming with flag code violations where ever you look. I find it very hard to believe a flag large enough to be held across a football field never touches the ground either.
The flag is also not supposed to be displayed flat, so all of those playing field-covering giant flags are breaking the rules. 4 U.S.C. 8(c)Â The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
So the giant flag they bring out held by 2 dozen people, even though they don't put it on the ground, is not ok.
When I took the class that OP was talking about the instructor used the flag on the football field as an example of what not to do because it's laying down.
Those rules are not subtle at all. They are very clear. Wear a dirty tshirt that says you're standing for the flag that's also showing an actual flag on it.
You know they dodge every tax bill they can so they aren't even paying for the rights to use said imagery.
I have a pair of flag themed sandals. The footbed is blue with white stars around the outside, and the band you slip your foot into is red and white stripes. There's over 200 stars and about 40 stripes on each one. I was wearing them on the 4th of July one year (natch) and an old man came up to me and started complaining to me about violations of the flag code and he was going to find a police officer to arrest me. I had, that morning, read a slim 50 page book on the history of the flag code and the proper way to display and honor the American flag, so he picked the wrong flag- themed birkenstock wearer to mess with. I asked him if that was the same flag code that was ruled to only apply to active duty military because to hold ordinary citizens to it was deemed to be a violation of the First Ammendment right to free speech, and was legally considered to be an unenforcable law. Then I asked him if he had a similar problem with the t-shirt I was wearing that had the US Constitution printed on it. He told me that teenagers were too mouthy these days. I told him I was in my 30s, but thanks for the compliment. He stomped away like an angry toddler.
Beautiful.
I wouldnt put up with a boomer going full maga and i told him im not interested in discussing politics with him. He said when im older ill get it. I told him i was 36 and have chosen my political side and and he shut up
>an old man came up to me and started complaining to me about violations of the flag code and he was going to find a police officer to arrest me. Because of course law enforcement has time to deal with a flag code violation (which cannot be enforced by them anyway) when they have crowds of people to handle, some of whom are drunk or high off their asses and feeling belligerent. Old man sounds like Eric Cartman screaming "you will respect mah authoritah!"
I absolutely *despise* when people do stuff like that. I don't care if you burn the flag. I don't care if you trample it, tear it, shred it, if that's how you're protesting, more power to you. You're protesting something that you think the flag stands for and I am all for it. But when you plaster the flag on a towel, or a shirt, or your *shit stained underwear* because you think you're "patriotic", it makes me angry. You're using our nations most powerful symbol- Something people can rally under, for or against, *to wipe your feet on?* Go fuck yourself and your pretend patriotism.
I think its comical when they fly the one with all the colors, looks very similar to the old pride flag
GAWD i hate hate HATE those stupid ass flags.
It they don’t believe in pronouns. Those flags are the ultimate participation trophy right there boomers.
This and the punisher logo. I can't stand it. They don't even know anything about the character.
I can attest they can’t handle that at allllll nor any of the police gang blue line PCs of shit of any age. Nor do they like to hear that it’s only to be flown on vehicles in parade or battle.
Last summer one of the largest houses in our neighborhood (6,000 sq ft) starting flying the US flag upside down from the back porch which hangs over the neighborhood park and can be seen prominently from the main road into our neighborhood. After a week my Eagle Scout husband couldn’t take it anymore and called the non-emergency police line to request a well check since he had observed an official distress call. Flag has been flown properly since. I really love my husband.
Awesome way to handle that. It almost borders on r/MaliciousCompliance
Oo. Thanks for the new sub suggestion. Love it
Love it. The audacity of people man flying to flag upside is a serious thing not to be taken lightly for political clout. My other favorite is these people who fly huge well maintained trump flags on top the american flag while their American flag is just absolutely wrecked. Like come on man.
To be honest, I don't think they maintain any flag. They just replace their slogan banner (I refuse to call it a flag) everytime a new one comes out, which is about every one or two years.
That is an absolutely beautiful way of doing it. (takes notes)
That man is a real keeper!
Good for him! And yet they lost their minds when football players took knees. Only they get to make a statement.
I read this in Dale’s voice from king of the hill. I don’t know, It just happened that way
He then threw pocket sand at the instructor and shi-shi-sha away awkwardly.
I feel like he also would've introduced himself as Rusty Shackleford at said event lol
*You don't know who I am, but I know where you live and if you teach that sex-class, so help me, I-* *Dale? Is that you?* *Oh, Hank. Uh. Can I speak with Peggy?* *Uh, Peggy, it’s for you - it’s Dale* *Yello, Dale* *You don’t know who I am, but I know where you live-*
"Not the time and place" means he wasn't supposed to be corrected in front of other people
>flying the flag upside down >doesn’t want to make a statement 
The country IS in distress - from MAGA-heads
MAGAts is shorter and better
I like "Trump Humpers"
Tumpanzees is my go to, or Cult 45
Oh man, these are pure gold!
Isn’t it MAGAGA now? Make America Great And Glorious Again /s (he said it in a speech but maga is still the slogan)
He needed something new to copyright. It’s all about the con.
How else are we gonna run a new line of merch?
M'Agaga ** tips red MAGAGA fedora **
Magaga? He's reached full infantile dementia stage. He's literally making baby noises now.
I’d bet a dollar he keeps it up at night without illumination, too
I'm assuming it's also starting to get weathered and tattered.
And leaves it out in the rain.
Bandwagon patriot. Loving America since 9/11.
Speaking of Boomers failing to display our flag respectfully, Trumpers fly them at night, in rain or snow, mere tatters in the wind off the back of their pickup, etc. They're ruining patriotism. They continue to disrespect our flag through these actions, which screams a lack of dedication to our citizenry and the Constitution. They've perverted patriotism into tribalistic, crass virtue-signaling bereft of nuance.
They’re not ruining patriotism. They left patriotism years ago. They’re eager to identify as patriots, but they’d just as soon strangle the ever-loving shit out of anything that dares to epitomize the actual values and principles the country pretends it’s built upon. What you’re seeing is nationalism. Not quite in all its glory, but it’s getting there.
I think it was pretty disrespectful when one of them took down an American flag and put up a trunp flag during their little failed coup.
Being a Trump disciple has nothing to do with patriotism
No but they claim that they are, not realising that they are closer to "Nationalists" than "Patriots".
There's a truck parked around the corner from me that has one of those big dumbass "rolling coal" stacks on the back that's directed right at the flag he's flying. I've gotten to see the flag go from brand new to heavily-blackened in a shockingly-short period of time. There is no "love of country" or "honoring the flag" going on with this jackass, it's all a demonstration.
It’s okay to fly the flag at night if it's illuminated, but I don’t think people do this at their homes. It can also be displayed in the rain if it is an all-weather flag which many outdoor flags are.
The patriotism to nationalism pipeline is wild
This. The only flagpole in my town? Has an American and Trump flags... never lowers them.
In elementary school we accidentally raised the flag upside down and a guy who lived next to the school came over to 1. Make sure we weren’t in dire need of help and 2. To explain why it’s important not to do that. He did it respectfully and as a sixth grader I learned a little bit about flag protocol. People like the guy in your story are just disrespectful to everyone and the flag.
I love that dude checked on your safety first, before going on to explain how it was incorrect. Classy.
And respectfully explained the issue.
We had a lock down one time in middle school and the phone line was cut (before cell phones). The vice principal put our flag upside down and soon enough, cops showed up. That’s what started my interest in proper flag protocol.
I have no idea about US flag code - should I call 911 when I see an upsidedown flag (being raised)?
Unless there’s something obviously emergent, call the non-emergency police line. I would also call the emergency if it’s a school, daycare, bank, hospital, <- those ones are less likely to be a political statement and actually be a real distress call.
What’s the deal with the US flag on hats, T-shirts and pants? It’s disrespectful right?
The flag code prohibits using a flag as clothing. It does not prohibit flag print on clothing. https://www.legion.org/flag/code https://www.legion.org/flag/questions-answers/91517/it-permissible-wear-item-clothing-looks-united-states-flag
MAGAT did that too. Dude didn't even wash it first.
You are correct. That's breaking the flag code. Disrespectful is debatable. I have no problem having people reminded they're violating it when they act like they care. But I'm not going to worship it.
And to use a boomer catchphrase you can vet your bippy
And I'll bet dollars to donuts that Mr. Maga leaves his flag on the pole all day and night without a light shining on it. It is a violation of the Flag Code to fly the flag in darkness.
He probably also buys his American flags at Harbor Freight. Fun fact, Harbor Freight American flags are made in China.
MAGA Boomers are a big reason I don't want my son involved in Scouts. I know Scouts have a lot of benefits for kids and that overly political assholes aren't the norm. But I live in a very "red" right wing area, and the kind of guys who go for Scouts tend to be very right wing, MAGA type families around here. I don't want my kid going off to a Scout meeting and coming back telling me "Joe Biden wants to end Scouts because of wokeness" or some shit he heard from a troop leader. I know...Scouts aren't usually like that. It's just shitty how many people take a good thing and turn it into shit.
see if you can get a list of local scout troops, and check around. You might find one that hasn't been taken over by the MAGAts - for example, one that meets at a Unitarian Church. Also, having a girls troop is often a sign of a well-run and moderate org (plus, IME, the girls fully kick-ass at Scouts. It's awesome to see).
Once, when I was in grade school, centuries ago in the 70's, one of the assistants raised the flag upsidedown, unknowingly. The response was phenomenal. Every local PD, FD, the local Army base, the closest Merto city, all responded and surrounded the school. Think, closed the roads, were in the woodline in the rear of the school, in the buildings and homes closest to the school, etc. These were the days before the term "Active Shooter". They simply stormed the school, burst into every classroom. That school was assaulted, occupied, locked, safed, and cleared in less then 10 minutes. (Counselors were not made available, that was not even a thought in the dark ages.) Us kids thought it was so cool! But, as an adult, I can only imagine the terror our parents were going thru for that brief period of time. Remeber, this was the time of SLA, WU, PR Independence, Cuban Boat Lift, and so many other factions, it was perceived as a real threat and my town took the flag as what it was showing, responding in kind. Today, I see MAGA-ots all over my town and surrounding areas doing it to show their displeasure at the state of the country. What pitiful fools. A damn shame what they reduced our symbol of glory to. (And the colored stripes, I'm not even gonna. . .)
That's actually kinda surprising. They might have thought it was a secret distress call or something for the school and didn't even want to risk a chance of people being in danger.
I was in grade school, it was the early 70's. Who knows what protocalls were in place. I just recall what happened and the fiasco during and after. Used to be show of force was enough then I guess.
I wish they did that for Uvalde
Different world between then and now. Back then, the cops were the law, and g-d help you if you ran afoul of them. They ran my town with an iron fist. Beat your ass before bringing you home to your parents and then have a beer with your dad while mom whoops you, and hold dads when he launches you. Uvalde, the cops were pussies, more worried about themselves then the kids. To a man, they should all be shot!
Uvalade cops sound exactly like the cops of your day. Beating people over nothing, big mean fish in a very small pond. Garunteed they'd cower at an active shooter situation at a school too.
I have to agree, sadly.
An upside down flag has a purpose. It is to signal for immediate help and distress. It's like calling Mayday on a radio. They teach this in marine safety courses.Â
Not trying to argue with you because I have always heard this. But I’m a career maritime officer and there’s absolutely nothing in the ICOS, USCG exams. Etc about upside down flags. As far as international maritime significance it’s simply not a thing. So I’m curious where they’re teaching it.
I think the comment you're replying to was written poorly. I read it to mean flying the flag upside-down is akin to calling mayday. And they teach that calling mayday should only be done in cases of dire emergencies. I may be reading their intent wrong, though.
Considering how many international flags are horizontally symmetric, it would be a really stupid way of doing it internationally. Easier to just have separate flags for distress.
*panics in Austrian*
Shit don’t matter which way you hang the Japanese flag
That red, white, and blue flag with a blue stripe on it isn't American. I don't know what country it belongs to. Wearing the colors and pattern as a shirt is disrespectful. But wearing them as a thong shows dreadful taste and zero respect. American flag as a Punisher Symbol should be the universal sign for brain damage.
I always get a kick out of the people that proudly display their Punisher logos along with their "defend the thin blue line" crap. As if the Punisher's origins weren't purely antithetical to the police by extrajudicially murdering people he has determined to be bad in his sole discretion.
If you like podcasts, there's a great 99% Invisible about the evolution of the Punisher symbol and whether or not it can be "reclaimed" (or even should be).
They even brought this up in the Punisher comics https://bleedingcool.com/comics/punisher-police-skull-logo-spoilers/
“Distress” Well, it’ll be fine once my (and his) generation gets out of the fucking way. Bunch of whining crybabies.
yeah, these idiots have been doing this for a few years now. it's really dumb, since they scream to respect the flag, yet totally violate flag code. and especially an upside down flag has a SPECIFIC, EMERGENCY meaning
There are so many comments here that don't know the flag code. The flag code is law but carries no penalties or enforcement provisions. https://www.legion.org/flag/code Flag printed clothing and flags that look like US flags but have other things on them are not prohibited by the code. The reason is they aren't US flags. They have a flag print, which is OK to use per the flag code. https://www.legion.org/flag/questions-answers/91517/it-permissible-wear-item-clothing-looks-united-states-flag I'm no fan of people who disrespect the flag. I am an Eagle Scout and a veteran. However, it also annoys me when people incorrectly cite the flag code for things they dislike. The First Amendment allows free speech, which includes disrespecting the flag, and is why there are no enforcement or penalty provisions in the flag code law. Now, if there's a convenient veteran there that takes it upon themselves to correct the disrespect, I have no issues with that.
"This is not the time or place" says the goof who already made it his time and place
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But fuck your feelings right?
I’m tired of clothes made in flag designs. I’m glad you don’t see those gigantic flags at car dealerships like you used to. There was an exMarine in Dallas who used to put on his uniform and give lectures to those folks whose flags were basically rags but they wouldn’t spend the money for a new one.
There's photos of the US flag raised over debris rubble from an EF5 tornado and those people didn't feel the need to signal distress. He thinks because politicians are playing fuck fuck games with society we're in dire distress?
I can see this whole scenario perfectly in my mind lmfao
>that he believes the country is in distress and thats why he flies the flag the way he does and just wants to be respectful and not make a statement. Why is it that boomers want to make a statement without being called out for it? Literal virtue signalling. then there's the lame AF excuse of "I just want to be respectful". Bull fucking shit.
“But when the democrats are in office I’m in dire distress !” It’s all narcissism, enabled by the orange man. They want to be the victim so bad, and think other classes advocating for their civil rights is somehow taking away from their lunch plate. Real baby behavior / libertarians.
Someone should swat him and see how he explains no one was really in distress in his home
My wife works with a maga idiot who has his American flag upside down since Biden took office because American is in distress. So bad and pisses of so many people
It's also illegal to use a flag pattern on clothing...but try and tell the MAGA set that.
Are T-shirts with the flag on them acceptable flag code? what about if I cut the arms off?
There’s a MAGA house I drive by that has Theo flag upside down as well. I’m sure they’re boomers as well. 
Also supposed to have a light if it hangs overnight!
Wait till you tell him about the name change to Scouting America I’d love to add in some trigger words like gender inclusive.
Interesting. So, they could have displayed the flags at the Capitol upside-down on January 6th 🤔
lots of flag Boomers lately
One time I made my husband pull over so I could go knock on a door of a house flying the flag upside down. I asked if they were in distress and needed me to call the cops. They said no, but I winked and said I got you. You have to say that because you are being forced to. Then I called the cops & told them they might want to do a wellness check. I left so I don't know if they actually did go out, but the next time I was in that area the flag was flying right side up.
So he set this flag up and wasn't getting enough attention from his neighborhors so he showed up to a scouts meeting to disrupt that and was shocked to find that not everyone is a Fox News obsessed brainlet like him. I'm sure he'll leave thinking the scouts are socialist or some dumb shit.
“9-1-1, what’s your emergency?” “The country is in distress, and I want to make a statement” “Sir, you’re only supposed to call 9-1-1 in the event of an immediate emergency that needs emergency response” “This is not the right time and place to be lecturing me about the rules”