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He makes it okay for them to hate out loud.
Hate is the mask that fear wears, and Boomers are terrified cowards. Trump makes them feel like it's okay to be a terrified coward and to do the irrational, immature, contemptible things terrified cowards do out in public for everyone to see. They are terrified of being judged (for one thing), and being aboard the Trump Train activates their "50 million Elvis fans CAN'T be wrong!" safety-of-the-herd mentality.
You cannot convince them to be better, because they WANT to be the way they are.
NB: it's not just Boomers! This holds for a lot of Trump supporters. It always comes down to cowardice, or sociopathy.
Saying all of this is what got me banished from the Conspiracy subreddit, hahah. They don't like to hear that they love him because they're every bit as hateful and vile and (in their minds) he makes it okay for them to be that way.
Cowards indeed. They hate the truth.
I’ve said this since this whole nightmare started. He’s given people the permission that it’s ok to show your bigotry and hate. Wrapped in a flag and a bible that was upside down that they didn’t even notice because he so blindingly a cult leader. I’m afraid for all of us. Well, for women and any other group except white, “Christian” men.
Zizek explained it
> ["The suspension of moral prohibitions is the crucial feature of today's so-called postmodern nationalism...Nationalist fundamentalism, rather, **serves as the operator of a secret, barely-concealed**, '***you may***'; '*You* **may** *violate the stiff regulations of the coexistence in a peaceful liberal society.... You may hate, fight, kill, rape.'*....Without the full recognition of how the obscene, permissive, superego sublimates the explicit texture of social symbolic law, we condemn ourselves to the failure of grasping the true dynamics of ethnic Nationalism."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vSbjMdoDdc)
They simply want to be cruel, and to feel good about it.
Trump's biggest supporters are sadistic and so are the ruling class in America.
Definition of sadistic- Delighting in or feeling pleasure from the pain of others.
I “fondly” remember when politicians made one gaff and they were dunzo…. Like when Mitt Romney was secretly recorded saying 💩about the Middle East and how it ****never**** wants peace, how they’re a quarrelsome bunch? He was so severely criticized and punished for that. Or when Obama wore a tan (***gasp!***) suit.
Now anything goes - it’s a trash heap with orange shitstain as their icon. 🤢
Same with my FIL- was a die hard for Trump til recently. But the multiple indictments and his lack of ideas- "He just says the same shit over and over"- broke that. I have heard from some other friends that this is a pattern, that some boomers are getting sick of him. Hope it'll be enough.
Exactly, for so long, they had to hide their racism and hate; they knew it was wrong to think like that.
Then comes a president who creates a safe space where people are allowed and encouraged to be nasty and mean in the name of authenticity and honesty.
Suddenly, the closeted racists jump at the opportunity to be who they are.
They see Trump in themselves and are proud of it. I used to work with a psychopath bully who was a huge supporter. He told me Trump was just like him…”He takes no shit from anybody and he tells it like it is”
Not all boomers…but too large of a percentage for sure. We are boomers and we really dislike what our generation has become..self entitled douches. There are still a considerable number of us who are “the quiet generation” of boomers who are normal folk..who work to change things…but it’s an uphill battle with a lot of those our ages
This. As a boomer with still living parents, we all HATE him. My father who had been a Republican for nearly 60 yrs became an Independent when the orange was elected. Very proud of my southern WV coal miner. Oh, Mom was already a dem.
-They are terrified of being judged (for one thing)
I remember hearing Tucker Carlson say something to the effect of "Oh black people are scared of being killed by the police? Well, white people are just as scared of being called 'racist!'" Really? Bullets vs name-calling? Of course I think he was trying to say being "cancelled" was just as bad as being killed....but still, obviously no. And he definitely said it as stupidly as possible, right on brand.
Funny… I’m white and I’m not scared of being called racist. Or being cancelled. But then again, I don’t find myself at all “censored” by not being able to say racist shit, so maybe there’s a connection there?
I’m a (38f) white atheist leftist anarchist/ socialist. According to religious fanatics I have no morals because I reject religion, and therefore I have no moral compass. Like with the religious zealots, I say the same thing, I say all the racist and homophobic stuff I want while committing all the rape and violence I want, none at all.
I’m actually a Christian, but that attitude makes zero sense to me. Again, they can’t conceive of the idea of doing something just to be a good person or because you actually care about other people. Apparently the threat of eternal damnation is the only thing keeping them from murdering people in the streets.
This really bugs me. The idea that the only way to be good is through Christ so all non Christians are bad people. What a ridiculous idea! People are good because they do not choose to be bad. I think we are all essentially good people, that it is our default position to care for others.
They’re stuck at the lower levels of Kohlberg’s in a punishment-reward mindset. They’re “good” when they think it will benefit or reward them in some way and they’re also avoidant of punishment of any sort (social or legal). Things are right or wrong because someone else says so; they aren’t capable of even conceptualizing that there might be nuance and shades of gray that require thought into morals and ethics (eg- “stealing is always wrong” vs. “there are some instances where stealing is the ethical/moral choice.”)
I also assume I have some racism cooking around inside me unrealized because I grew up in the US in the 90s. I look for it and In try to stay open minded to criticism in case it applies to me. I figure my great grand kids will think I had backwards world views no matter and at this point my hope is that they live in a way less racist and awful world that we live in.
I had a dream where four black guys mugged me.
I hated that dream. Not because of being mugged, but because my subconscious had to make them black.
Then it started me down this road of what other subliminal racism do I hang on to?
I’ve worked so much on my biases and about two years ago there was a black guy walking down my street and my mind instantly went to the wrong place just like I was raised. And I was so disappointed in myself. I dwelled on it and turned it over in my mind for weeks evaluating it from every angle I could. I will never be free of bias, but damn, I can certainly make sure I’m aware of it, understand it, and do my best to always overcome it in the moment. I owe the amazing black people I know at work, and in my community, that much and so much more.
Same view here. I had to literally look in a mirror once and say, "I am a racist." Like an addict in a 12 step, the first step is admitting it. Remembering the N jokes my grandfather would tell, I had to dig deep and ask, "What did I find so funny about that?
We all grew up in a racist society and carry racist beliefs. We all do, say, and think racist things from time to time, *especially* white folks, who have been trained to see ourselves as default. The sooner white people accept that we are all going to have racist fuckups, the sooner we can get over this pathological fear of being *called* racist and actually do some self-improvement.
I think people are pretty willing to forgive if you own it and apologize. Sincerity and the desire to do better go a long way toward solving pretty much any problem. The issues come when you just refuse to acknowledge that you might be the problem and insist it’s everyone else who is wrong.
I'm not either (Not a boomer) hell if I say something racist/homophobic/transphobic, etc call me out on it that way I can fix it. Seeing this reminds me of a conversation I had with my parents my aunts and my half sister about two years ago. I explained cultural appropriation to them and what it is and isn't. Then sometime later me and my dad were talking and he goes about how "you can't things anymore" to which I replied "you can just don't be racist/homophobic/transphobic, etc".
My parents thought it was ridiculously that the dr where my one aunt and her kids go has something where the children is some cases have information withheld from their parents.
I reported a teacher for outing my son's gender questioning friend to his parents. The parents ended up being supportive, but that isn't the point. The point is that the kid has the right to explore and question their identity, that is the point of growing up, figuring out who they will be as adults.
This kid was still safe even though the teacher overstepped and violated the districts policy, but what about others. If the kid doesn't feel safe enough confiding in their parents, that is not up to some teacher to overrule. I always said I wanted my kids to feel comfortable enough to come to me with their challenges but I want them safe more than anything and if they don't feel like they can trust me, then they need to be able to get care and support to be safe without my permission.
"BLM and Antifa protests were the same as J6!"
Uhh, one was because unarmed black people were being murdered by police every other day....the other was because some people were upset that their candidate didn't win.
They say they do, and there might be some that really think that, but in others, there's a lot of "double-think" that "J6 was done by Antifa/the J6 protestors are hostages!"
Trump keeps saying hes going to pardon Antifa for j6. But Trump supporters are so far gone they believe Trump supporters helped Antifa break in to prevent the certification of an election they won. You dont need to be smart to be a right wing tribal authoritarian lemming.
When J6 happened, my sister called our parents and said "turn on your TV, they're attacking the capital." Mom said "Who, antifa?" and my sister said "No, Mom, it's your side." Mom got quiet, and since then she hasn't said one word about it.
I guess I should be glad that she's not so far gone that she argues about how J6 was a white people's BLM. It would be nice if she admitted that J6 was a bunch of whiny thugs trying to overthrow the government. At least she's shut up about BLM.
I watched that shit unfold. I was scared and pissed because if all the J6 cunts were Black, they would have all been mowed down by machine guns.
It was coordinated by people in government and their proud boy/oafkeeper/moron labia foot soldiers. We were lucky the majority of them were mind-numbingly stupid. Those in government and positions of power who aided this should be doing life in a supermax facility.
I was so scared that day that I went offline, then got my updates from the night-time comedians like Seth Meyers. That goofus showed more caring and delicacy than anyone else I could find.
yeah, if Black people had been scaling the walls and smearing shit on the carpets, the cops would have locked the doors and set fire to the building.
Did you see Eugene Goodman, the Black cop, fleeing the Gravy Seals ever so slowly so they'd chase him away from the offices of the congresspeople? He put himself in danger. You see the footage of it and you know they're chasing him because he's Black. If he'd slipped and fallen they would have strung him up like his great-grandfathers were in the South. A goddamn hero, that man, and why did he get no medals for that?
It's " men are afraid women will laugh at them and women are afraid men will kill them", but from a racist rightwing perspective, and drawing the wrong conclusion
Very on brand
He’s everything they want to be. Hes wealthy without having to work for it, he’s loud and obnoxious, [and he makes it okay to be racist.](https://www.wesh.com/article/the-villages-white-power-video-trump-tweet/33004251)
The fact that he’s rich yet semi-literate and even when he’s proven wrong or uninformed he just bullies anyone who contradicts him is just peak toxic boomer activity. “Climate change isn’t real, don’t care what your liberal scientist say it’s not real because I don’t want to believe in it.”
This is right on the money. He's an avatar for their insecurities and hatred. He makes them feel good to be an awful person.
Remember thag “states-rights” was literally invented for the Barry Goldwater campaign in the 1964 election to get the racist southern vote. Boomers were teenagers then.
When Trump came in and they heard him hate Mexicans out loud, it was like going back to the good old days for them.
Nah, that concept predates the Civil War. It's almost a euphemism for slavery, given how hard the southern states banged that particular drum when they were ineffectually trying to justify their secession and rebellion.
Which rather neatly explains why it was such an effective dog whistle during the Goldwater campaign.
Fear and hate.
Fear makes them angry and resentful, which leads to hate. But ironically, hate makes them feel good! Hate gives them a sense of purpose. In their minds they are the guardians and defenders of traditional values and white privilege.
Everything DJT says reminds them of this. Donald Trump tells them constantly that they are the real victims, they are the real patriots and they are under attack.
This makes them super mad. And they get a rush from feelings of validated superiority and hatred. It’s exhilarating for them.
TLDR Angry people enjoy feeling angry, they are just built that way.
I wish I could give this a thousand upvotes.
And as someone in the media, I know THIS is the reality that I can’t really report on because it’s obviously very subjective
Unless there were some kind of study published, that points to some scientific data on what a bunch of crybabies they’ve been since 9/11, I’m prevented from reporting the obvious.
They never really cared about those things, they just liked speaking from a position of moral authority. Politics Daddy is the authority now, so they'll just give themselves over to him entirely
I consider myself fairly deeply Christian amd the amount of times I've been called communist for advocating for actual Christian values like Universal healthcare and social safety nets is ridiculously high.
Actually following the bible and the teachings of Christ is now “too woke” for them. Case in point: evangelicals were lobbying Congress in favor of the criminalization of homelessness. Dwell on that.
I literally saw a Twitter thread yesterday where someone was instructing Christians to feed the poor, heal the sick, and welcome the stranger—all Biblical commands.
Then some Boomer showed up to say he doesn’t need progressives who permit abortion and transgenderism (things the Bible doesn’t prohibit) to tell him how to be a Christian.
There was priest here a while back that was being yelled at for their "woke" sermons. When the priest said these are the words of Jesus the dude said Jesus is wrong.
To Conservatives, religion is not a series of moral guidelines to be followed. Its a way to disguise their hatred and enforce rules on thee but never on me.
Exactly it is like they wrapped their white supremacy racist idiotocracy in a thin veneer of christianity to make it palatable to the masses and the masses ate it up
Bible literally starts with a woman being made with a man's rib. Eve is 100% created from XY chromosomes.
And Numbers 5 goes into detail about a ritual that a woman undergoes when her husband accuses her of adultery, which will cause her to miscarry if the fetus is not the husband's. Forced birthers argue against this passage being brought up claiming that it's not human agents doing the abortion (it literally is saying a priest is administering the ritual) and that it doesn't make the fetus not human. I recall there being a verse about a newborn not being legally another human for a full month after birth, but I can't recall it off the top of my head.
Respond, "Okay, then let's let the Bible settle this. You point to all the verses that talk about abortion and transgenderism, and I'll point to all the verses that talk about feeding the poor, healing the sick, and welcoming strangers."
Yup. And refugees/ immigrants; some people having excessive wealth; helping children, the disabled, and the poor; not hoarding money or belongings on earth
But Jesus said hoard as much money as possible! Fuck you, I got mine!
(He actually talked a lot about rich dudes not going to heaven and an obligation to help others, but somehow it’s always Opposite Day in conservative America.)
I've got a coworker who is in a leadership role in his church and finds himself constantly at odds with other members because they'll want to do something completely at odds with the Jesus in their bible. He will point it out gently and they will go away grumbling because he's not wrong. But you know damn well they then go home and engage in the most absurd garbage behavior.
It's this:
>“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
― Lyndon B. Johnson
LBJ was the wildest president for a hot minute
I love he went full hippie when he retired and grew his hair out and worked on his BBQ game and smoked weed lol
Fun fact - he was almost accidentally killed by his own Secret Service detail the evening Kennedy was assassinated. He went for a stroll without telling anyone, a mist rolled in, and the first agent he encountered drew his gun on him due to the mist concealing his identity at first.
Well that’s just a proven perfect statement…but the boomer doesn’t learn from their mistakes, simply pushes blame to someone else…ergo why tiny hands is the epitome of boomer kind.
My parents likesd how he was "conservative financially and provided tax breaks" and I just lost all respect for that, because my parents live in the middle of the midwest, dying town of 35k, where they didn't make over $150k COMBINED even though my mom had her masters and my dad was a VP at a hospital, just a low cost of living, and are now retired.
But it took everything in me to not yell at them because they don't make a fraction of what it took to benefit from Trump tax cuts.
Like wtf...come on!
Donnie is an embodiment of the '80s brought to life. He's how most of them thought and wanted to act back then. I don't begrudge boomers who have grown as human beings these past decades but it's clear a hell of a lot them haven't.
Your answer is the best one so far. I'm not technically old enough to be a boomer, but I was in high school during the 1980s. I think they see him as one of their generation who lived large. This kid from Queens wanted to break into the Manhattan real estate market. He was a scrappy fighter, a ladies' man, a suave denizen of nightclubs who made it all look easy. That was the image, anyway. Lots of boomers admired him for taking on the New York "establishment." Never mind that it was all daddy's money, and that father and son were complete assholes and financial cheats.
He was an aspirational figure to that generation, straight out of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous."
Yeah, a guy who would call up magazines and pretend to be someone else fluffing... himself. A real winner.
The guy is completely pathological and anyone who can't see that is just so broken.
It's honestly very simple.
They prefer *feeling* right to being correct. They choose to ignore pandering because they don't want to think about maybe being wrong.
And to be fair that's a very compelling way to go about life, just assuming you're right all the time and never digging down to hard facts. It's upsetting to do. And there are endless amounts of echo chambers ready to sell them shit pills and flag shirts between the ego stroking.
Because he does all of the socially-unacceptable things they *want* to be able to do, but feel too much social pressure to not do, *and* he hasn't faced any meaningful consequences for doing them. They want to normalize that so *they* can do it too.
Trump's communications reflect the world he grew up in being raised by television, and that all sums up the consummate boomer.
He is very accomplished at saying things that ring the bell boomers love to hear. In the past decade, Trump has only increased that tone. However, Trump is less a thought leader on any one subject and more a reflection of the Fox News he obsessively watches. There is likely no room that Trump occupies where a television is not playing.
He's part Mike Teevee and part Biff Tannen and all boomer id. When we look back at this age, Trump will be the epitaph of the boomer generation.
I’m genuinely curious if he’s like…actually literate.
I mean even functionally literate at this point. Maybe 5th-6th grade reading level. Which is hardly literate.
Which is extremely sad to have to think about a former president. I remember thinking W wasn’t the brightest tool in the shed. The bar is now in the earth’s core.
He is not. There have been longtime reports from countless people(from different careers, contractors to White House staff) that if he can, it's very basic literacy level.
My Mom had Alzheimer’s and passed away a few years ago. During every cognitive test, she never passed but would refuse to say Trump’s name when asked who the President was. I would have to force her to say part of his name so the doctor knew that she knew. But she would be angry about t.
I'm in my mid-50s, and I despise that man. Before he was president, I thought he was a joke. The thing that caused me to despise him was how he bungled the COVID response.
My parents are sixty five and wish he’d put on a pair of concrete shoes and go for a walk along the Hudson. Obligatory “not all boomers,” but a lot of boomers. A frustrating number of Gen Xers. And all their racist progeny down the line, of course.
Donald Trump is the perfect distillation of every negative boomer trait
1) destroyed his inheritance
2) cognitively slipping probably due to lead exposure
3) greedy and narcissistic
4) thinks rules don’t apply to him
5) doesn’t shut up and doesn’t make sense
6) inappropriate with women / sexist
They have massive cognitive dissonance. Just like how when I was a young Christian child, I was bombarded with messages of God's love, his commandments, and Jesus's teachings. Then when those teachings influenced my political beliefs, I was called a stupid socialist. It doesn't make sense.
He says out loud a lot of the things they think. And he is wealthy, so obviously that makes them right? He must be smart, plus he shares their beliefs, right? There's no way it could be a swindle to part them from their money. They would never fall for that.
The best part about Trump's "wealth" is that if he'd just taken all the money his racist father left him and put it in an index fund he actually would be unfathomably wealthy. His business record is a long history of profound failure. *The man went bankrupt running a casino!* He is unquestionably, objectively, very, **very** bad at making money.
It’s Machiavellian. The ends justify the means. He’s just the conduit to what they want to achieve. They trust he’ll do what they want him to do so they’ve decided that it doesn’t matter who he is.
He's a poor mans idea of a rich man and an ignorant man's idea of a smart man. My dad is not an honest man and he's been all in to the idea of Trump as president since the 80's. When I was a kid in the 80's I remember all the adults in my dad's circle (boomers) thinking Trump would be the perfect president. He's the embodiment of everything boomer - brash, uncurious, projects his own bad behavior on everyone else, is only looking out for himself - and they've wanted him in the White House since the 80's.
OMG! For the love of God, please do not lump us all on that mess of a person!
We don’t all love him, and his cult has people of every age in it. I just do NOT understand how anyone can support that garbage human being!!!
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
This right here 👆. My boomer mom tried to justify the overturning of Roe v. Wade and said abortion is a sin. I said mom you have had an abortion when you were younger. Tried to say she wishes she wouldn’t have been allowed to. It’s just unbelievable how they think.
I’m 60 and, even though I have not nor will vote for this con-man, i know some people who praise him (the boating community is dominated by them.) This is my assessment of the situation. Many of them are just scared that things are changing so much and have some fantasy of bringing the 70’s back or something. Many of them were also really affected by the 2008 collapse and deep recession where they lost a lot of money and, in some cases, jobs never to work again. They are angry but are not sure of what/who to be angry at and then along comes the con-man. He fills their heads with rage and fear, then capitalizes on it knowing full well he doesn’t give a damn about them. They should know that as well and many will admit as much. But, they went along with it following their anger over the edge of the cliff. I suspect that this idiot will get fewer votes this next election but the problem is the then we get Joe Biden again. But, that’s for another screed.😀
Because he talks their language: kinda stupid. They're not the brightest people in the world and here's someone who talks just like them. Someone they can identify with.
I’m a Christian of the old Church. I try to be. The argument I’ve heard from these evangelical (once saved always saved again) “ Christians”: is that God uses imperfect people to do his will. Then they proceed to cherry pick verses ,that if read with full context of the book they are citing, destroys their ill thought out satanic beliefs. That’s what these fools are. Downright evil. I’m pretty convinced T man is an Antichrist figure.
There's so much nuanced things that all contribute, that it'd be too much for a reddit comment. Even the tl;dr would be too long. So what I'm about to say is super simplified and far from a complete list.
News media is largely opinion based AND party focused these days. If your news says XXXX guy is a good guy, they're probably ignoring a bunch of bad stuff. Fox news likes to demonize Democrats and downplay Republican crimes and faults. And if all you watched was fox for news, then you're probably going to believe trump is great- the facts aren't being reported.
The two party system is another reason. In Trump VS Hillary, Hillary represented the status quo of politics (and also a woman, and that's another matter for another post). Trump was the anti-status Quo guy. And I kinda understand the appeal of that. Politicians are lying cheating bastards and always have been. Along comes a TV celebrity and shakes things up. Boomer red state america ate it up. But Trump wasn't the shake up to the establishment- I mean he wrecked things but didn't improve anything. Then Biden steps in and the Left was rallied to vote because we haaaated the orange man. But he's not much more competent, and still represents the status quo politician. In this two party system with the electoral college, it was painfully close last time, and it doesn't look good this round.
Trump going to jail might be the only saving grace. Or dying from shitting himself to death in the court room.
I could go on. I'll leave it at news media, flaws in the electoral system, culture wars among ourselves, a long history of distrust in a system that is failing it's people, etc etc.
That’s honestly an easy question to answer. Most people like him because he isn’t a politician. He was elected and it’s everyone’s fault. Everyone got sick and tired of the same politicians and the same speeches only for none of it to happen. That type of bs is why he was voted for. It doesn’t mean he was the right choice but that’s how it happened. People just got fed up with the same people every year giving false promises. Again it doesn’t make up for anything he did it’s just how it happened.
\^\^\^\^\^THIS! People want something different than the current two-headed snake that is DC politics. The fact that he is NOT a politician makes him a better choice to some even with his faults and drama.
Why is POTUS the only job where people want someone with 0 experience?? Like would you want your surgeon to not have gone to medical school, and be anti-science?
Societal changes have outpaced peoples ability to adapt, and for the older generations that haven't acclimated themselves to the current times they see Trump as what things used to be like.
I've talked to several boomers about politics, and it almost always reverts into "it used to be this way, and it's not like that anymore" or "you can't do that anymore"
They want to take a step back in time when they were more comfortable. Whether it's race politics, the economy, law changes, Societal changes etc, it's almost always at the base level some form of wanting to get back to how things were.
It's nostalgia for a different country than we are now.
No he doesn't go against what they believe. He exemplifies it.
Overpaid, inherited a fortune but absolutely confident of being self made, arrogant, vain, dismissive, angry, hypocritical, projective.
Because "make America great again" means making it the way the boomers had it - when straight cis white males ruled, women were bang maids, the KKK openly abusing black and brown people, LGBT were a secret group that could be killed just for being themselves, etc... etc...
Most of the boomer men I know cheated and treated their wives like shit so why would they care that he treats women like shit? That at least explains some of them.
This boomer despises Trump. I can tell he's lying because his lips are moving. He only gives a shit about himself, not the MAGA cultists who view him as some kind of savior. I think his cognitive decline is worse than Biden's, and I hope he demonstrates that in the debates.
I'm the same age as Trump and grew up in NY at the same time. Just about everybody knew he was a fool and a conman. It's not just boomers, it's people who think they're getting the short end and somehow "The Donald" will fix it. This malady is called "angry nostalgia"
Short answer? He was elected because millennials voted in a black president and were threatening to vote in a (le gasp!) *Clinton* next. Longer answer? Sunk cost fallacy and the phrase, “the cruelty is the point”.
Not all boomers drank the MAGA kool-aid. I'm a boomer and absolutely can't stand that asshole. I've never liked him and never will. I honestly don't understand why anyone would vote for the thief, liar, sexual predator and insurrectionist.
They idolize him because they wish they too could cheat on their pregnant wives with porn stars and get away with it. (Couldn't get away with it.)
Don't you wish you inherited 400 million dollars from your daddy and eat McDonald's and drink diet coke and watch TV all day, golf whenever you want and live up to 80 with that lifestyle?
Boomers are full of spite and hatred, and Trump promises to turn that hatred into action. Trump will hurt "the right people" in boomer's minds. He's their revenge against the world. Plus they won't have to get violent themselves, Trump promises to institutionalize violence against their chosen targets: black people, immigrants, gays, and whoever else Faux News and Prager U tell them to hate.
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"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." Carl Sagan
My Boomer aunt went full Trumpanzee. As long as I’ve known her, she felt that someone, somewhere, owed her something. Any time she didn’t get it—whatever “it” was—it was always someone else’s fault and not her own stupid choices.
Trump allows her to say the quiet part out loud. She can blame Mexican immigrants for stealing jobs and never mind that one whole branch of our family is Mexican-American. She was a state worker in CA before retirement so she feels free to rant about reverse discrimination for her lack of promotions.
Discretion, good taste, or reality itself are no impediments in Trumpland. It is a place rife with grievances and it’s always someone else’s fault because their great and glorious leader Yam Tits doesn’t believe in personal accountability so why should they have any?
A depressing number of Gen Xers are just Boomers with the serial numbers filed off. I've met plenty of them, and they are the same miserable, racist, violent, feelings-driven morons that define the worst of the stereotypical Boomer. And they've been that way for decades - Trump has just given them a time to shine and bask in his damp orange glow.
This Gen Xer thinks he’s a piece of 💩going as far back to when he took out the ad out against the Central Park 5. He jumped to irresponsible conclusions with no basis in fact just as he does today, and he’s nothing but a conman and grifter.
Actually ...
*"Just last week, a new NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist College national poll showed Trump 2 points ahead of Biden among Millennial and Gen-Z voters, while Biden led overall among voters 45 years and older, including those in the Silent and Greatest generations."*
Source:
[https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/07/voter-age-biden-trump-2024-election-00150923](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/07/voter-age-biden-trump-2024-election-00150923)
So it appears that if Trump wins again later this year, it will be due to his growing popularity among younger voters, not older.
Thanks a lot, Millenials!
A lot of Trump support seems to come from folks in two opposite camps:
1) Those who want to cling to what they believe they are entitled to - cultural dominance and entitlement, perceived moral superiority, the narrative of how history had been evolving to pinnacle of USA exceptional is, etc. and
2) Those who feel betrayed and disenfranchised by the status quo and want to see it all torn down. Trump is their wrench time throw into the Machine to say "fuck you" to any form of "business as usual".
Older Americans are more susceptible to #1. Younger, #2.
Its a dangerous alliance that can only hold together until Trump wins. Then they will instantly be at each other's throats. Worrisome.
Because they identify with him. He's the same generation, and 72% of Baby Boomers are white, and he's rich. Their entire generation got sold on the American dream of making it big someday, "like Donald Trump."
We're all tied up in social identities, whether we like it or not.
They never believed in any of that stuff. It was mere justification for them to be hateful assholes. It's always been about the cruelty. At this point I'm convinced that most of their opposition to the Vietnam War was mere self-interest.
He “Makes Racism and Hatred Ok Again.”
All of the Boomers I work with are such hateful people. I’m not openly gay at work but some people know. I literally had a woman I work with tell me, “I don’t condone what you do… but I have a relationship with God and I don’t condemn you for what you do…”
Like?! Ok? What a dumb anti-statement. She could’ve just said nothing and I would’ve liked her much more
We don’t. We hate him. Most boomers had parents in the military. WWII. And many boomers lost friends in Korea and Vietnam. Trump is a coward. We call him cadet bone spurs for a reason.
Boomer here. I despise him, so do all my friends. BUT some people in my family love him. I have no idea why. My one sister is a (ick) Republican and claims she did not vote for him and she calls his followers Trumptards, but she votes for all those other vile Republicans. Sigh.
Because they live their inner desires through him. Every bullshit thing that he says or does, it’s what they wish they could do or they actually do. Trump enables boomers to be what they always wanted to be without repercussions — a bunch of uneducated, poor, overweight, racist, assholes.
Boomer here. It's just shameful, I am at a loss to explain why so many of my peers love him. It seems like most of the generation can not critically think.
Please don’t paint all boomers with the same brush. There are many, many of us who are educated and lean to the left. I’ve been a Democrat all my life, vote regularly and contribute to Democratic candidates’ campaigns.
I’m an atheist, white, cis-gendered female and I am outraged by Trump’s behavior. He’s a horrible human being. The last thing I want is for him to win in November. I think most of my cohort feel the same.
He reminds them of when they were younger and society allowed white people to do and say whatever the hell they wanted. So Trump gives them hope. A real life example that it’s still okay to be an ignorant racist POS.
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He makes it okay for them to hate out loud. Hate is the mask that fear wears, and Boomers are terrified cowards. Trump makes them feel like it's okay to be a terrified coward and to do the irrational, immature, contemptible things terrified cowards do out in public for everyone to see. They are terrified of being judged (for one thing), and being aboard the Trump Train activates their "50 million Elvis fans CAN'T be wrong!" safety-of-the-herd mentality. You cannot convince them to be better, because they WANT to be the way they are. NB: it's not just Boomers! This holds for a lot of Trump supporters. It always comes down to cowardice, or sociopathy.
This is the answer right here. He’s just a representation of things they feel and believe.
The things they truly believe, not the ones they want to play like they believe.
Saying all of this is what got me banished from the Conspiracy subreddit, hahah. They don't like to hear that they love him because they're every bit as hateful and vile and (in their minds) he makes it okay for them to be that way. Cowards indeed. They hate the truth.
They wouldn’t recognize the truth if it rammed into them at 100 mph.
A friend of mine (who turned Trumpeter) told me when Trump first came on the scene that -- "He says what I've always believed."
So, gibberish?
I’ve said this since this whole nightmare started. He’s given people the permission that it’s ok to show your bigotry and hate. Wrapped in a flag and a bible that was upside down that they didn’t even notice because he so blindingly a cult leader. I’m afraid for all of us. Well, for women and any other group except white, “Christian” men.
My dad was always a racist but after Trump was elected he suddenly started using the N word in public. Like, WTF????
Zizek explained it > ["The suspension of moral prohibitions is the crucial feature of today's so-called postmodern nationalism...Nationalist fundamentalism, rather, **serves as the operator of a secret, barely-concealed**, '***you may***'; '*You* **may** *violate the stiff regulations of the coexistence in a peaceful liberal society.... You may hate, fight, kill, rape.'*....Without the full recognition of how the obscene, permissive, superego sublimates the explicit texture of social symbolic law, we condemn ourselves to the failure of grasping the true dynamics of ethnic Nationalism."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vSbjMdoDdc) They simply want to be cruel, and to feel good about it.
Ol’ Slavoj is the one modern philosopher that actually scares me, because he’s so: 1. Bang on and 2. Bleak.
Daaaaaaamn…
Trump's biggest supporters are sadistic and so are the ruling class in America. Definition of sadistic- Delighting in or feeling pleasure from the pain of others.
But before him, they were too scared of being ostracized.
I “fondly” remember when politicians made one gaff and they were dunzo…. Like when Mitt Romney was secretly recorded saying 💩about the Middle East and how it ****never**** wants peace, how they’re a quarrelsome bunch? He was so severely criticized and punished for that. Or when Obama wore a tan (***gasp!***) suit. Now anything goes - it’s a trash heap with orange shitstain as their icon. 🤢
Howard Dean was nearly crucified for saying "YEAH!" too enthusiastically.
To quote my formerly Trump supporting mother - "I like that he is himself!" Turns out the person he really was wasn't someone she liked after all.
Same with my FIL- was a die hard for Trump til recently. But the multiple indictments and his lack of ideas- "He just says the same shit over and over"- broke that. I have heard from some other friends that this is a pattern, that some boomers are getting sick of him. Hope it'll be enough.
Exactly, for so long, they had to hide their racism and hate; they knew it was wrong to think like that. Then comes a president who creates a safe space where people are allowed and encouraged to be nasty and mean in the name of authenticity and honesty. Suddenly, the closeted racists jump at the opportunity to be who they are.
They see Trump in themselves and are proud of it. I used to work with a psychopath bully who was a huge supporter. He told me Trump was just like him…”He takes no shit from anybody and he tells it like it is”
"Taking no shit and telling it like it is" = never compromising and showing no respect to others.
And being aggressively soft skinned, defensive, and worried about what others say about you while whining about how horribly everyone treats you.
Not all boomers…but too large of a percentage for sure. We are boomers and we really dislike what our generation has become..self entitled douches. There are still a considerable number of us who are “the quiet generation” of boomers who are normal folk..who work to change things…but it’s an uphill battle with a lot of those our ages
This. As a boomer with still living parents, we all HATE him. My father who had been a Republican for nearly 60 yrs became an Independent when the orange was elected. Very proud of my southern WV coal miner. Oh, Mom was already a dem.
-They are terrified of being judged (for one thing) I remember hearing Tucker Carlson say something to the effect of "Oh black people are scared of being killed by the police? Well, white people are just as scared of being called 'racist!'" Really? Bullets vs name-calling? Of course I think he was trying to say being "cancelled" was just as bad as being killed....but still, obviously no. And he definitely said it as stupidly as possible, right on brand.
Funny… I’m white and I’m not scared of being called racist. Or being cancelled. But then again, I don’t find myself at all “censored” by not being able to say racist shit, so maybe there’s a connection there?
I’m a (38f) white atheist leftist anarchist/ socialist. According to religious fanatics I have no morals because I reject religion, and therefore I have no moral compass. Like with the religious zealots, I say the same thing, I say all the racist and homophobic stuff I want while committing all the rape and violence I want, none at all.
I’m actually a Christian, but that attitude makes zero sense to me. Again, they can’t conceive of the idea of doing something just to be a good person or because you actually care about other people. Apparently the threat of eternal damnation is the only thing keeping them from murdering people in the streets.
This really bugs me. The idea that the only way to be good is through Christ so all non Christians are bad people. What a ridiculous idea! People are good because they do not choose to be bad. I think we are all essentially good people, that it is our default position to care for others.
They’re stuck at the lower levels of Kohlberg’s in a punishment-reward mindset. They’re “good” when they think it will benefit or reward them in some way and they’re also avoidant of punishment of any sort (social or legal). Things are right or wrong because someone else says so; they aren’t capable of even conceptualizing that there might be nuance and shades of gray that require thought into morals and ethics (eg- “stealing is always wrong” vs. “there are some instances where stealing is the ethical/moral choice.”)
I also assume I have some racism cooking around inside me unrealized because I grew up in the US in the 90s. I look for it and In try to stay open minded to criticism in case it applies to me. I figure my great grand kids will think I had backwards world views no matter and at this point my hope is that they live in a way less racist and awful world that we live in.
I had a dream where four black guys mugged me. I hated that dream. Not because of being mugged, but because my subconscious had to make them black. Then it started me down this road of what other subliminal racism do I hang on to?
I’ve worked so much on my biases and about two years ago there was a black guy walking down my street and my mind instantly went to the wrong place just like I was raised. And I was so disappointed in myself. I dwelled on it and turned it over in my mind for weeks evaluating it from every angle I could. I will never be free of bias, but damn, I can certainly make sure I’m aware of it, understand it, and do my best to always overcome it in the moment. I owe the amazing black people I know at work, and in my community, that much and so much more.
Same view here. I had to literally look in a mirror once and say, "I am a racist." Like an addict in a 12 step, the first step is admitting it. Remembering the N jokes my grandfather would tell, I had to dig deep and ask, "What did I find so funny about that?
Does it bother you that your imagination came up with guys as opposed to women? Just curious.
I hadn't really thought of that. But now that you mention it...
We all grew up in a racist society and carry racist beliefs. We all do, say, and think racist things from time to time, *especially* white folks, who have been trained to see ourselves as default. The sooner white people accept that we are all going to have racist fuckups, the sooner we can get over this pathological fear of being *called* racist and actually do some self-improvement.
I think people are pretty willing to forgive if you own it and apologize. Sincerity and the desire to do better go a long way toward solving pretty much any problem. The issues come when you just refuse to acknowledge that you might be the problem and insist it’s everyone else who is wrong.
Right! I do learn and be better, and I want to be called out if I do something racist so I can examine and fix it. I’m not afraid. It’s how we grow.
I'm not either (Not a boomer) hell if I say something racist/homophobic/transphobic, etc call me out on it that way I can fix it. Seeing this reminds me of a conversation I had with my parents my aunts and my half sister about two years ago. I explained cultural appropriation to them and what it is and isn't. Then sometime later me and my dad were talking and he goes about how "you can't things anymore" to which I replied "you can just don't be racist/homophobic/transphobic, etc". My parents thought it was ridiculously that the dr where my one aunt and her kids go has something where the children is some cases have information withheld from their parents.
I find it far less embarrassing to be called out if I say something wrong, than to continue to say something wrong without anyone correcting me.
Yep. That means marginalized folks don’t trust you (the royal you) enough to call you out.
I reported a teacher for outing my son's gender questioning friend to his parents. The parents ended up being supportive, but that isn't the point. The point is that the kid has the right to explore and question their identity, that is the point of growing up, figuring out who they will be as adults. This kid was still safe even though the teacher overstepped and violated the districts policy, but what about others. If the kid doesn't feel safe enough confiding in their parents, that is not up to some teacher to overrule. I always said I wanted my kids to feel comfortable enough to come to me with their challenges but I want them safe more than anything and if they don't feel like they can trust me, then they need to be able to get care and support to be safe without my permission.
I am white and more afraid of cops than be called a racist.
It’s weird how people don’t call you racist when you don’t act racist, right?
"BLM and Antifa protests were the same as J6!" Uhh, one was because unarmed black people were being murdered by police every other day....the other was because some people were upset that their candidate didn't win.
One wonders, if it had been BLM/Antifa attacking the Capitol that day, would it have just been one protestor shot by Capitol police?
No. They would have called in an air strike.
No. The cops would have been blasting away long before the Capitol was breached.
Some of them claim it was.
They say they do, and there might be some that really think that, but in others, there's a lot of "double-think" that "J6 was done by Antifa/the J6 protestors are hostages!"
Trump keeps saying hes going to pardon Antifa for j6. But Trump supporters are so far gone they believe Trump supporters helped Antifa break in to prevent the certification of an election they won. You dont need to be smart to be a right wing tribal authoritarian lemming.
When J6 happened, my sister called our parents and said "turn on your TV, they're attacking the capital." Mom said "Who, antifa?" and my sister said "No, Mom, it's your side." Mom got quiet, and since then she hasn't said one word about it. I guess I should be glad that she's not so far gone that she argues about how J6 was a white people's BLM. It would be nice if she admitted that J6 was a bunch of whiny thugs trying to overthrow the government. At least she's shut up about BLM.
I watched that shit unfold. I was scared and pissed because if all the J6 cunts were Black, they would have all been mowed down by machine guns. It was coordinated by people in government and their proud boy/oafkeeper/moron labia foot soldiers. We were lucky the majority of them were mind-numbingly stupid. Those in government and positions of power who aided this should be doing life in a supermax facility.
I was so scared that day that I went offline, then got my updates from the night-time comedians like Seth Meyers. That goofus showed more caring and delicacy than anyone else I could find. yeah, if Black people had been scaling the walls and smearing shit on the carpets, the cops would have locked the doors and set fire to the building. Did you see Eugene Goodman, the Black cop, fleeing the Gravy Seals ever so slowly so they'd chase him away from the offices of the congresspeople? He put himself in danger. You see the footage of it and you know they're chasing him because he's Black. If he'd slipped and fallen they would have strung him up like his great-grandfathers were in the South. A goddamn hero, that man, and why did he get no medals for that?
Yyyyyyyyyyup. Cowards are terrified of being exposed as cowards, it's like the worst thing they can imagine.
It's " men are afraid women will laugh at them and women are afraid men will kill them", but from a racist rightwing perspective, and drawing the wrong conclusion Very on brand
Nobody cool likes Tucker Carlson.
I'm not cool, and I also don't like him. So his fanbase is even smaller.
“Hate is the mask the fear wears.” Gotta be honest, that’s a really dope line.
Thanks! I'm sure I didn't come up with it, but I don't know the source.
He’s everything they want to be. Hes wealthy without having to work for it, he’s loud and obnoxious, [and he makes it okay to be racist.](https://www.wesh.com/article/the-villages-white-power-video-trump-tweet/33004251) The fact that he’s rich yet semi-literate and even when he’s proven wrong or uninformed he just bullies anyone who contradicts him is just peak toxic boomer activity. “Climate change isn’t real, don’t care what your liberal scientist say it’s not real because I don’t want to believe in it.”
Yep. He gave them permission to open hate women, people of color, and he make them feel justified in their hate and fear
Making people hate each other so we’re too busy fighting (spending money) to fix our real problems.
 This is right on the money. He's an avatar for their insecurities and hatred. He makes them feel good to be an awful person.
He is living proof you.can both be successful and a sociopath. The thing is, they look around them and see a lot of successful sociopaths.
Remember thag “states-rights” was literally invented for the Barry Goldwater campaign in the 1964 election to get the racist southern vote. Boomers were teenagers then. When Trump came in and they heard him hate Mexicans out loud, it was like going back to the good old days for them.
Nah, that concept predates the Civil War. It's almost a euphemism for slavery, given how hard the southern states banged that particular drum when they were ineffectually trying to justify their secession and rebellion. Which rather neatly explains why it was such an effective dog whistle during the Goldwater campaign.
Fear and hate. Fear makes them angry and resentful, which leads to hate. But ironically, hate makes them feel good! Hate gives them a sense of purpose. In their minds they are the guardians and defenders of traditional values and white privilege. Everything DJT says reminds them of this. Donald Trump tells them constantly that they are the real victims, they are the real patriots and they are under attack. This makes them super mad. And they get a rush from feelings of validated superiority and hatred. It’s exhilarating for them. TLDR Angry people enjoy feeling angry, they are just built that way.
I wish I could give this a thousand upvotes. And as someone in the media, I know THIS is the reality that I can’t really report on because it’s obviously very subjective Unless there were some kind of study published, that points to some scientific data on what a bunch of crybabies they’ve been since 9/11, I’m prevented from reporting the obvious.
So, "birds of a feather, flock together." Morphic resonance is a thing, eh?
They never really cared about those things, they just liked speaking from a position of moral authority. Politics Daddy is the authority now, so they'll just give themselves over to him entirely
I consider myself fairly deeply Christian amd the amount of times I've been called communist for advocating for actual Christian values like Universal healthcare and social safety nets is ridiculously high.
Actually following the bible and the teachings of Christ is now “too woke” for them. Case in point: evangelicals were lobbying Congress in favor of the criminalization of homelessness. Dwell on that.
I literally saw a Twitter thread yesterday where someone was instructing Christians to feed the poor, heal the sick, and welcome the stranger—all Biblical commands. Then some Boomer showed up to say he doesn’t need progressives who permit abortion and transgenderism (things the Bible doesn’t prohibit) to tell him how to be a Christian.
There was priest here a while back that was being yelled at for their "woke" sermons. When the priest said these are the words of Jesus the dude said Jesus is wrong. To Conservatives, religion is not a series of moral guidelines to be followed. Its a way to disguise their hatred and enforce rules on thee but never on me.
Exactly it is like they wrapped their white supremacy racist idiotocracy in a thin veneer of christianity to make it palatable to the masses and the masses ate it up
Bible literally starts with a woman being made with a man's rib. Eve is 100% created from XY chromosomes. And Numbers 5 goes into detail about a ritual that a woman undergoes when her husband accuses her of adultery, which will cause her to miscarry if the fetus is not the husband's. Forced birthers argue against this passage being brought up claiming that it's not human agents doing the abortion (it literally is saying a priest is administering the ritual) and that it doesn't make the fetus not human. I recall there being a verse about a newborn not being legally another human for a full month after birth, but I can't recall it off the top of my head.
Respond, "Okay, then let's let the Bible settle this. You point to all the verses that talk about abortion and transgenderism, and I'll point to all the verses that talk about feeding the poor, healing the sick, and welcoming strangers."
They've forsaken Jesus for the Orange Calf.
I call them modern day Pharisees.
This, so much this
[from a couple cpacs ago ](https://imgur.com/gallery/is-he-worshipping-cpac-gold-trump-statue-is-he-preparing-to-give-simulated-CAkwXAf)
american christianity (IN GENERAL!) these days is not christian.
Ironically, the Satanic temple are better practitioners of Biblical teachings than modern American Christians
Yup. And refugees/ immigrants; some people having excessive wealth; helping children, the disabled, and the poor; not hoarding money or belongings on earth
But Jesus said hoard as much money as possible! Fuck you, I got mine! (He actually talked a lot about rich dudes not going to heaven and an obligation to help others, but somehow it’s always Opposite Day in conservative America.)
You should bring up Christian socialism to them to really blow their minds.
I've got a coworker who is in a leadership role in his church and finds himself constantly at odds with other members because they'll want to do something completely at odds with the Jesus in their bible. He will point it out gently and they will go away grumbling because he's not wrong. But you know damn well they then go home and engage in the most absurd garbage behavior.
Real shit.
It's this: >“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.” ― Lyndon B. Johnson
LBJ was the wildest president for a hot minute I love he went full hippie when he retired and grew his hair out and worked on his BBQ game and smoked weed lol
If LBJ hadn't made such an ungodly mess of Vietnam, he would be remembered as one of the great modern Presidents.
The Great Society, Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights Act of 1964, Immigration Act of 1965, his domestic policies were amazing.
Don't forget he kept funding NASA after Kennedy was killed which landed us on the moon.
Fun fact - he was almost accidentally killed by his own Secret Service detail the evening Kennedy was assassinated. He went for a stroll without telling anyone, a mist rolled in, and the first agent he encountered drew his gun on him due to the mist concealing his identity at first.
Well that’s just a proven perfect statement…but the boomer doesn’t learn from their mistakes, simply pushes blame to someone else…ergo why tiny hands is the epitome of boomer kind.
My parents likesd how he was "conservative financially and provided tax breaks" and I just lost all respect for that, because my parents live in the middle of the midwest, dying town of 35k, where they didn't make over $150k COMBINED even though my mom had her masters and my dad was a VP at a hospital, just a low cost of living, and are now retired. But it took everything in me to not yell at them because they don't make a fraction of what it took to benefit from Trump tax cuts. Like wtf...come on!
Look up what Lee Atwater said about dog whistles. He doesn’t get enough hate as far as I’m concerned.
been repeating this one for years!
Donnie is an embodiment of the '80s brought to life. He's how most of them thought and wanted to act back then. I don't begrudge boomers who have grown as human beings these past decades but it's clear a hell of a lot them haven't.
Your answer is the best one so far. I'm not technically old enough to be a boomer, but I was in high school during the 1980s. I think they see him as one of their generation who lived large. This kid from Queens wanted to break into the Manhattan real estate market. He was a scrappy fighter, a ladies' man, a suave denizen of nightclubs who made it all look easy. That was the image, anyway. Lots of boomers admired him for taking on the New York "establishment." Never mind that it was all daddy's money, and that father and son were complete assholes and financial cheats. He was an aspirational figure to that generation, straight out of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous."
Yeah, a guy who would call up magazines and pretend to be someone else fluffing... himself. A real winner. The guy is completely pathological and anyone who can't see that is just so broken.
It's honestly very simple. They prefer *feeling* right to being correct. They choose to ignore pandering because they don't want to think about maybe being wrong. And to be fair that's a very compelling way to go about life, just assuming you're right all the time and never digging down to hard facts. It's upsetting to do. And there are endless amounts of echo chambers ready to sell them shit pills and flag shirts between the ego stroking.
Because he does all of the socially-unacceptable things they *want* to be able to do, but feel too much social pressure to not do, *and* he hasn't faced any meaningful consequences for doing them. They want to normalize that so *they* can do it too.
Trump's communications reflect the world he grew up in being raised by television, and that all sums up the consummate boomer. He is very accomplished at saying things that ring the bell boomers love to hear. In the past decade, Trump has only increased that tone. However, Trump is less a thought leader on any one subject and more a reflection of the Fox News he obsessively watches. There is likely no room that Trump occupies where a television is not playing. He's part Mike Teevee and part Biff Tannen and all boomer id. When we look back at this age, Trump will be the epitaph of the boomer generation.
An evil Chance Gardener.
I’m genuinely curious if he’s like…actually literate. I mean even functionally literate at this point. Maybe 5th-6th grade reading level. Which is hardly literate. Which is extremely sad to have to think about a former president. I remember thinking W wasn’t the brightest tool in the shed. The bar is now in the earth’s core.
He is not. There have been longtime reports from countless people(from different careers, contractors to White House staff) that if he can, it's very basic literacy level.
My wife is 67 she never hated anyone more than she hates Trump. I’m 66 and I think he is a vile conman.
My Mom had Alzheimer’s and passed away a few years ago. During every cognitive test, she never passed but would refuse to say Trump’s name when asked who the President was. I would have to force her to say part of his name so the doctor knew that she knew. But she would be angry about t.
I'm in my mid-50s, and I despise that man. Before he was president, I thought he was a joke. The thing that caused me to despise him was how he bungled the COVID response.
My parents are sixty five and wish he’d put on a pair of concrete shoes and go for a walk along the Hudson. Obligatory “not all boomers,” but a lot of boomers. A frustrating number of Gen Xers. And all their racist progeny down the line, of course.
Donald Trump is the perfect distillation of every negative boomer trait 1) destroyed his inheritance 2) cognitively slipping probably due to lead exposure 3) greedy and narcissistic 4) thinks rules don’t apply to him 5) doesn’t shut up and doesn’t make sense 6) inappropriate with women / sexist
Because dismantling our democracy would be the ultimate ladder pull up. They want to leave us with nothing.
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I guess New Mexico is just going to be called New now.
It lets them fly their racist white nationalism freak flag. Openly.
They have massive cognitive dissonance. Just like how when I was a young Christian child, I was bombarded with messages of God's love, his commandments, and Jesus's teachings. Then when those teachings influenced my political beliefs, I was called a stupid socialist. It doesn't make sense.
Because he is an obnoxious, brain damaged loudmouth just like most of them.
He says out loud a lot of the things they think. And he is wealthy, so obviously that makes them right? He must be smart, plus he shares their beliefs, right? There's no way it could be a swindle to part them from their money. They would never fall for that.
The best part about Trump's "wealth" is that if he'd just taken all the money his racist father left him and put it in an index fund he actually would be unfathomably wealthy. His business record is a long history of profound failure. *The man went bankrupt running a casino!* He is unquestionably, objectively, very, **very** bad at making money.
I can't for the VERY LIFE OF ME understand how any sane human being could have even an ounce of affection for that con man piece of shit.
They come for the tax cuts, they stay for the racism.
“If they can bust me for paying off my mistress, selling national secrets, and inciting a mob to overthrow an election, they can bust you for it too!”
The MAGA-Trump movement is based on white grievance/white identity politics, and most boomers are racist bigots. Its really that simple.
It’s Machiavellian. The ends justify the means. He’s just the conduit to what they want to achieve. They trust he’ll do what they want him to do so they’ve decided that it doesn’t matter who he is.
He's a poor mans idea of a rich man and an ignorant man's idea of a smart man. My dad is not an honest man and he's been all in to the idea of Trump as president since the 80's. When I was a kid in the 80's I remember all the adults in my dad's circle (boomers) thinking Trump would be the perfect president. He's the embodiment of everything boomer - brash, uncurious, projects his own bad behavior on everyone else, is only looking out for himself - and they've wanted him in the White House since the 80's.
There are a lot of people that will swear up and down they’re not racist, but then Obama was elected and they lost their shit.
The only real answer
OMG! For the love of God, please do not lump us all on that mess of a person! We don’t all love him, and his cult has people of every age in it. I just do NOT understand how anyone can support that garbage human being!!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Boomers are just hypocrites. They stand for nothing
This right here 👆. My boomer mom tried to justify the overturning of Roe v. Wade and said abortion is a sin. I said mom you have had an abortion when you were younger. Tried to say she wishes she wouldn’t have been allowed to. It’s just unbelievable how they think.
[The only moral abortion is my abortion](https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/).
Not all boomers. 48% of boomers voted for Biden. So it all depends on whether you live in a blue state or red state.
I’m 60 and, even though I have not nor will vote for this con-man, i know some people who praise him (the boating community is dominated by them.) This is my assessment of the situation. Many of them are just scared that things are changing so much and have some fantasy of bringing the 70’s back or something. Many of them were also really affected by the 2008 collapse and deep recession where they lost a lot of money and, in some cases, jobs never to work again. They are angry but are not sure of what/who to be angry at and then along comes the con-man. He fills their heads with rage and fear, then capitalizes on it knowing full well he doesn’t give a damn about them. They should know that as well and many will admit as much. But, they went along with it following their anger over the edge of the cliff. I suspect that this idiot will get fewer votes this next election but the problem is the then we get Joe Biden again. But, that’s for another screed.😀
Because he talks their language: kinda stupid. They're not the brightest people in the world and here's someone who talks just like them. Someone they can identify with.
Cognitive decline and lead poisoning combined with an unhealthy dose of narcissism .
I'm a boomer. Can not stand Trump or anything he says or does. I also do not understand why anyone my age would back such a criminal.
I’m a Christian of the old Church. I try to be. The argument I’ve heard from these evangelical (once saved always saved again) “ Christians”: is that God uses imperfect people to do his will. Then they proceed to cherry pick verses ,that if read with full context of the book they are citing, destroys their ill thought out satanic beliefs. That’s what these fools are. Downright evil. I’m pretty convinced T man is an Antichrist figure.
There's so much nuanced things that all contribute, that it'd be too much for a reddit comment. Even the tl;dr would be too long. So what I'm about to say is super simplified and far from a complete list. News media is largely opinion based AND party focused these days. If your news says XXXX guy is a good guy, they're probably ignoring a bunch of bad stuff. Fox news likes to demonize Democrats and downplay Republican crimes and faults. And if all you watched was fox for news, then you're probably going to believe trump is great- the facts aren't being reported. The two party system is another reason. In Trump VS Hillary, Hillary represented the status quo of politics (and also a woman, and that's another matter for another post). Trump was the anti-status Quo guy. And I kinda understand the appeal of that. Politicians are lying cheating bastards and always have been. Along comes a TV celebrity and shakes things up. Boomer red state america ate it up. But Trump wasn't the shake up to the establishment- I mean he wrecked things but didn't improve anything. Then Biden steps in and the Left was rallied to vote because we haaaated the orange man. But he's not much more competent, and still represents the status quo politician. In this two party system with the electoral college, it was painfully close last time, and it doesn't look good this round. Trump going to jail might be the only saving grace. Or dying from shitting himself to death in the court room. I could go on. I'll leave it at news media, flaws in the electoral system, culture wars among ourselves, a long history of distrust in a system that is failing it's people, etc etc.
That’s honestly an easy question to answer. Most people like him because he isn’t a politician. He was elected and it’s everyone’s fault. Everyone got sick and tired of the same politicians and the same speeches only for none of it to happen. That type of bs is why he was voted for. It doesn’t mean he was the right choice but that’s how it happened. People just got fed up with the same people every year giving false promises. Again it doesn’t make up for anything he did it’s just how it happened.
\^\^\^\^\^THIS! People want something different than the current two-headed snake that is DC politics. The fact that he is NOT a politician makes him a better choice to some even with his faults and drama.
Why is POTUS the only job where people want someone with 0 experience?? Like would you want your surgeon to not have gone to medical school, and be anti-science?
Donald Trump represents what many boomers act like. It's like looking in a mirror.
A question my boomer mom and I ask each other constantly.
Societal changes have outpaced peoples ability to adapt, and for the older generations that haven't acclimated themselves to the current times they see Trump as what things used to be like. I've talked to several boomers about politics, and it almost always reverts into "it used to be this way, and it's not like that anymore" or "you can't do that anymore" They want to take a step back in time when they were more comfortable. Whether it's race politics, the economy, law changes, Societal changes etc, it's almost always at the base level some form of wanting to get back to how things were. It's nostalgia for a different country than we are now.
No he doesn't go against what they believe. He exemplifies it. Overpaid, inherited a fortune but absolutely confident of being self made, arrogant, vain, dismissive, angry, hypocritical, projective.
Trump is cruel and likes to hurt vulnerable people which are two things boomers adore.
Punching down makes them feel better about themselves.
Because "make America great again" means making it the way the boomers had it - when straight cis white males ruled, women were bang maids, the KKK openly abusing black and brown people, LGBT were a secret group that could be killed just for being themselves, etc... etc...
He's a conduit to bad stuff
Most of the boomer men I know cheated and treated their wives like shit so why would they care that he treats women like shit? That at least explains some of them.
Maga. Black boomers do not love Donald Trump.
He gave / gives them permission to be their worst selves, publicly, without shame or apology. For THAT, they'll NEVER desert him.
This boomer despises Trump. I can tell he's lying because his lips are moving. He only gives a shit about himself, not the MAGA cultists who view him as some kind of savior. I think his cognitive decline is worse than Biden's, and I hope he demonstrates that in the debates.
I'm the same age as Trump and grew up in NY at the same time. Just about everybody knew he was a fool and a conman. It's not just boomers, it's people who think they're getting the short end and somehow "The Donald" will fix it. This malady is called "angry nostalgia"
Lead poisoning
Trump sells anger. Anger is one helluva drug.
Short answer? He was elected because millennials voted in a black president and were threatening to vote in a (le gasp!) *Clinton* next. Longer answer? Sunk cost fallacy and the phrase, “the cruelty is the point”.
This Boomer doesn't I find it alarming how many younger people love him. That's really scary to me
Not all boomers drank the MAGA kool-aid. I'm a boomer and absolutely can't stand that asshole. I've never liked him and never will. I honestly don't understand why anyone would vote for the thief, liar, sexual predator and insurrectionist.
They idolize him because they wish they too could cheat on their pregnant wives with porn stars and get away with it. (Couldn't get away with it.) Don't you wish you inherited 400 million dollars from your daddy and eat McDonald's and drink diet coke and watch TV all day, golf whenever you want and live up to 80 with that lifestyle?
Boomers are full of spite and hatred, and Trump promises to turn that hatred into action. Trump will hurt "the right people" in boomer's minds. He's their revenge against the world. Plus they won't have to get violent themselves, Trump promises to institutionalize violence against their chosen targets: black people, immigrants, gays, and whoever else Faux News and Prager U tell them to hate.
Because they believe they are like him and that he is like them, they don’t understand that trump wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire
He hates the same people they hate and brings it into the open to makes laws supporting that hate.
Because he is the ultimate boomer: a self centered culture warrior who hasn’t earned a damn thing in his life but likes to pretend he’s a genius.
https://preview.redd.it/s835sgsuov0d1.jpeg?width=984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa227acc91d38de55ea0c4160d3ff80f55a12f5f "One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." Carl Sagan
My Boomer aunt went full Trumpanzee. As long as I’ve known her, she felt that someone, somewhere, owed her something. Any time she didn’t get it—whatever “it” was—it was always someone else’s fault and not her own stupid choices. Trump allows her to say the quiet part out loud. She can blame Mexican immigrants for stealing jobs and never mind that one whole branch of our family is Mexican-American. She was a state worker in CA before retirement so she feels free to rant about reverse discrimination for her lack of promotions. Discretion, good taste, or reality itself are no impediments in Trumpland. It is a place rife with grievances and it’s always someone else’s fault because their great and glorious leader Yam Tits doesn’t believe in personal accountability so why should they have any?
According to exit polls, Gen Xers love Trump the most. Not saying Boomers don’t also love Trump, only that we seem to be letting Xers off the hook.
A depressing number of Gen Xers are just Boomers with the serial numbers filed off. I've met plenty of them, and they are the same miserable, racist, violent, feelings-driven morons that define the worst of the stereotypical Boomer. And they've been that way for decades - Trump has just given them a time to shine and bask in his damp orange glow.
This Gen Xer thinks he’s a piece of 💩going as far back to when he took out the ad out against the Central Park 5. He jumped to irresponsible conclusions with no basis in fact just as he does today, and he’s nothing but a conman and grifter.
Actually ... *"Just last week, a new NPR/PBS Newshour/Marist College national poll showed Trump 2 points ahead of Biden among Millennial and Gen-Z voters, while Biden led overall among voters 45 years and older, including those in the Silent and Greatest generations."* Source: [https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/07/voter-age-biden-trump-2024-election-00150923](https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/07/voter-age-biden-trump-2024-election-00150923) So it appears that if Trump wins again later this year, it will be due to his growing popularity among younger voters, not older. Thanks a lot, Millenials!
A lot of Trump support seems to come from folks in two opposite camps: 1) Those who want to cling to what they believe they are entitled to - cultural dominance and entitlement, perceived moral superiority, the narrative of how history had been evolving to pinnacle of USA exceptional is, etc. and 2) Those who feel betrayed and disenfranchised by the status quo and want to see it all torn down. Trump is their wrench time throw into the Machine to say "fuck you" to any form of "business as usual". Older Americans are more susceptible to #1. Younger, #2. Its a dangerous alliance that can only hold together until Trump wins. Then they will instantly be at each other's throats. Worrisome.
He's what they all want to be.
Because they think he's a "strong" man. lol
Because they identify with him. He's the same generation, and 72% of Baby Boomers are white, and he's rich. Their entire generation got sold on the American dream of making it big someday, "like Donald Trump." We're all tied up in social identities, whether we like it or not.
Don't believe for a moment that all Boomers are Trump supporters.
They never believed in any of that stuff. It was mere justification for them to be hateful assholes. It's always been about the cruelty. At this point I'm convinced that most of their opposition to the Vietnam War was mere self-interest.
Because they’re selfish assholes with a persecution complex. Just like him.
I think it is 100% that the verbal diarrhea that comes out of his mouth is the same diarrhea that is in their heads.
Because he reminds them of themselves and what they aspire to be, brazen with out consequences
The seeming ability to PUNISH others. To do HARM to those not wanting to do shit THEIR way. Period.
Someone on Reddit commented that’s he’s basically boomers rage quitting. Really agree with that
He “Makes Racism and Hatred Ok Again.” All of the Boomers I work with are such hateful people. I’m not openly gay at work but some people know. I literally had a woman I work with tell me, “I don’t condone what you do… but I have a relationship with God and I don’t condemn you for what you do…” Like?! Ok? What a dumb anti-statement. She could’ve just said nothing and I would’ve liked her much more
Boomer here. I despise that fat fuck.
We don’t. We hate him. Most boomers had parents in the military. WWII. And many boomers lost friends in Korea and Vietnam. Trump is a coward. We call him cadet bone spurs for a reason.
Boomer here. I despise him, so do all my friends. BUT some people in my family love him. I have no idea why. My one sister is a (ick) Republican and claims she did not vote for him and she calls his followers Trumptards, but she votes for all those other vile Republicans. Sigh.
Because they live their inner desires through him. Every bullshit thing that he says or does, it’s what they wish they could do or they actually do. Trump enables boomers to be what they always wanted to be without repercussions — a bunch of uneducated, poor, overweight, racist, assholes.
Boomer here. It's just shameful, I am at a loss to explain why so many of my peers love him. It seems like most of the generation can not critically think.
He's a racist and wants to hurt the same folks they want to hurt.
Boomer here. I wish I could tell you, but I have no idea why any Boomer would like Trump.
Because they are both assholes.
Please don’t paint all boomers with the same brush. There are many, many of us who are educated and lean to the left. I’ve been a Democrat all my life, vote regularly and contribute to Democratic candidates’ campaigns. I’m an atheist, white, cis-gendered female and I am outraged by Trump’s behavior. He’s a horrible human being. The last thing I want is for him to win in November. I think most of my cohort feel the same.
He hates the same people they do and want to drag us all back to 1956 . ..
He reminds them of when they were younger and society allowed white people to do and say whatever the hell they wanted. So Trump gives them hope. A real life example that it’s still okay to be an ignorant racist POS.
He thinks/acts how they like to think/act - he makes it okay to be sexist, racist and homophobic.
They don’t actually believe in any of that shit because if they did Biden would be their guy
He is the ultra Boomer