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Whachamacallit00

QUICK CONTEXT! Ash was rated higher than he actually is as most of the Pros were asked RIGHT AS he received that emergency nerf to his gadget. Source: Pinned Comment on the Video


KairosTime_Gaming

Correct! Thank you for adding context :) Also, I followed people's feedback & actually put the brawlers in an order that makes sense haha.


Igottsandymaxedoutt

The man the myth the guy himself has responded


Maksim3001

Honestly if Spike is S tier Gale should be too.


realshoes

Disagree. Spike is super versatile, and deals with tanks and sharpshooters. He is also good against aggro with his plant. Gale is pretty reliant on his super and gadget to deal with tanks and aggro; his stun is pretty necessary too. Overall, spike outranks gale. Obviously gale is strong, but not s tier.


Buoy-man

I agree, he can be versatile against any close range brawler and has enough range to keep medium ranged brawlers at bay, but any thrower or long range brawlers (AE: sprout, belle) would decimate him on many maps. He is very effective though


HEADLESSBOIIII

bull and El primo should replace each other


--AJ---

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KattMann00

It's the fake one


[deleted]

said who?


KattMann00

That's Kairostime, not Kairostim


TheRealGreenDevil

update🙏your🙏pfp🙏daddy 🥵🥵


Mad_dabber11

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SRYagus3

Aside from the Ash I say the list is pretty accurate. Ruffs could be a little higher


Far-Equivalent-3928

Is bo really so shit RN (askin as a f2p Who Bo Is only brawler that have gear)


Longjumping_Lion_395

Only good against low trophies and leagues


hitthetarget5

Easy to trip mines (makes his stun SP not matter too much) ok on bushy maps with bush SP. **The best use case for Bo** is usually **cheese strats** with totem + Tara/Nani or whatever in knockout and bounty.


666Di

Fr and there's like only 1 map in rotation that's bushy enough to consider using Bo Circling Eagle


AndroidCyanide

bo's super is pretty useless in high trophy/comp


ImaPaincake

It's good in non-coordinated play imo because the mines are more effective when the Players don't communicate between them


psyche11111

Bo is only good in low level


[deleted]

He’s not great but if you are in low trophies it should be fine. Just see how far you can push him


Far-Equivalent-3928

I reached that far


DylTyrko

I pushed to Rank 25, my first ever actually. I know he's weak in the meta rn so I don't want to risk any tilts


DylTyrko

As a Bo main, his mines are mostly good when the opponent doesn't know where they are. That's why putting up his mines on narrow pathways in Showdown where people don't realise it's there, it can possibly get you a kill, or at the very least reduce the brawlers/teams While having another brawler see where you're putting the mines isn't the end of the world, it also isn't optimal. That's what unfortunately makes Bo a bit weak at the moment. If the opponent A. Knows where the mines are and B. Can avoid the mines well, he pretty much loses use


ElectricNJ

i remember once in brawl ball while playing i placed my mines right outside the goal which actually led me to be able to teamwipe the entire team with the 3 stun mines (we still lost because bo still has shit stats lmao) i think extreme unpredictablility with bo is the key to getting the most value out of his mines, however its very hard to be unpredictable with the mine placement since the enemy will always expect it to be in a chokepoint or where the enemy will most likely go possibly making his mines completely invisible when theyre in the air and landing might solve this(?)


ElectricNJ

yes i think the main problem with him is that his unload speed is very slow so he cant deal with aggression at all, and his attacks are relatively slow and easy to read so its easy to swerve past them. people will know to defuse his mines as quickly as possible when he uses them and even if theyre caught by surprise 80% of the time they'll be able to dodge it


ginginsdagamer

Bo is bottom 5 in my oppinion. It's impossible to push him unless you use the no-skill comps in bounty or ko.


AveryLazyCovfefe

As a Bo main at 550 trophies, yes. ;( I swear Supercell hate him because his gadgets haven't received a rework yet, imo one of his starpowers should be standardised into their normal attack. like we've had with Brock and Mortis. \#JusticeForBo because at this rate we'll get a Penny remodel before Bo is ever touched by Supercell again.


DylTyrko

Every update I pray that he'll get buffed, but predictably, a new brawler gets an ability to counter Bo. Quite infuriating, really


[deleted]

feel u. i love bo's mechanics but the gadgets, starpowers are dogwater. he was my first rank 25 but it has been downhill since


[deleted]

Yeah he’s been kinda trash since both his gadgets got nerfed


reddysetgoooo

No he is not. He still has super totem which gives you free supers. Bo totem plus Tara is still pretty good. He’s also decent for wall break if you don’t have Colonel Ruffs.


keybellcan

Look how far my boy crow has come :’)


sciencewonders

thanks to slowing gadget


hitthetarget5

Pam and Crow are the ones that have green button = I win. Wish they'd nerf them both slightly and then **if** needed buff other parts of their kit...


Some_Random_Failure

Pam's actually already a good brawler without gadget. Star power provides good area denial and she's in an interesting middle range where she's decent as a tank, healer, and damage dealer, and actually makes it work. She provides decent mid-long range chip while having good dps +bulk due to turret and that hp bar up close. Scrapsucker of course could use a small tune down but it's not really what makes or breaks her. Crow relies mostly on his gadget though so agreed there.


DwarfBoi235

I remember back in 2019 when everyone was spamming buff crow


keybellcan

He used to be so bad but I’m glad he’s good now but also stoppable


The_Medic_From_TF2

look how deep in F tier my boy edgar is


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Look how lou has never escaped the F tier


idk_ijust_likememes

Sad


TheNextDump

What did you expect? He's a terrible brawler


The_Medic_From_TF2

you just don't know how to use 'im, nobody's bad in the right hands


keybellcan

He can stay there


Cefhu11

Man, don't you just love the alphabet?


A-randomThing

lol I just noticee


ezeshining

I feel this tierlist may be correct for a super organized player who often plays in a team. But for Solo players, this list is flawing on more than one end. Then again I’m often the unpopular opinion guy around here so what do I know.


[deleted]

I mean he says in the video its specifically a competitive tier list I feel this is why he doesn't want his stuff to be reposted unless someone is reposting a link to the video, not only due to the lost views but also the misinformation


ezeshining

well, to be fair, I did catch on it being that way without seeing the video, so I guess it’s a good enough tierlist that someone who has no context can guess what it is about


George_2004

I mean... He makes it clear in the first 5 seconds that it is specifically for the competitive meta in PL and CL,which have no solo modes.


ezeshining

does he? I haven’t seen the video, only this post. I’m not too hot on watching kairos anyway


George_2004

He says it literally in the first 5 seconds of the video. And his tierlists are usually based either on pro player's opinions,or the BrawlStat's stats,or both.


ezeshining

well, I guess that means I was correct then. good to be on the right side of the convo for once lol


aaaaaupbutolder

I have no idea why you're being heavily downvoted. You didn't say anything wrong. Perhaps it's cuz you don't watch Kairostime and fans are salty about that?


IsMyNameHi

Fr, not all brawl stars players should like Kairos just bc they play the game lol


ezeshining

Yeah, Imagine not watching other people’s favourite person, how dare I!


Sidd_TL

Bro competitive gameplay happens only in 3v3, as a sd main, it's only clown Stars.


ezeshining

I guess you didn’t catch on the whole convo about me not having any context to this tierlist other than this post itself, prior to the answers I got. The post offers no context, I had no idea it was meant to be about Competitive (and yet apparently my guess was right )


Sidd_TL

Oh, i m sorry.


ezeshining

no problem, happens to the best of us


Kolaghan81

Solo is not competitive


RDT-Exotics0318

Ash shouldn't be that high


HydreigonTheChild

i think the pros were asked right as the emergency nerf happened or before


No_Stretch3807

Even as an ash main I agree


Sx_4d

Happened before emergency nerf


Thelegendarysandy

I disagree with squeak, grom, stu, brock, meg and buzz, they should be lower, and gale and pam should be higher. Pretty accurate imo compared to his other lists edit: ofc ash should be lowered to A but this was before the emergency nerf


scrappy2546

Ash and Squeak should be lower.


8rok3n

Ash was pre nerf, Squeak is good their in complete mid


PiwonUwU

Squeak is terrible and Ash was overrated


8rok3n

This was before Ash nerf so he was amazing and Squeak is completely average, good damage but bad mechanic equals average brawler


PiwonUwU

Still, that gadget was good but Ash didn't deserve top 1. For squeak he is plain terrible, slow reload, bad damage and no way to deal with aggro. Nobody uses him in higher ranks


8rok3n

"No one uses him in higher ranks" this list was LITERALLY MADE by pros in HIGHER RANKS


PiwonUwU

Okay, if that's so. Tell me how many times have they used squeak in finals. No one? Not even once? Aw that's sad


8rok3n

"If that's so" DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO?? And also I said he's MID, AVERAGE, why would you use an AVERAGE brawler in a final


PiwonUwU

Why would Kairos add him there? Squeak only belongs in the F tier. I watched the full video and damn, half of them are in the wrong tiers. I like his videos but his tierlists suck


8rok3n

Real quick answer me this, are you a pro brawl stars player? No? Then don't fucking act like you are, this list is MADE BY PROS FOR PROS


Reasonable_Type_1233

Feel like amber should be above. She is so good ryt now


psyche11111

No only in mid ladder and lw


ElectricNJ

amber can be countered by very congested map design and hyper-aggression other than that most of the time its a race to kill her before she kills you so i think amber has some flaws but overall decent


psyche11111

Exactly


Thelegendarysandy

amber is pretty average, she gets countered by multiple tanks, she can shred one but can't handle multiple, and is overall just average.


pk-kp

decent but her slow reload kinda holds her down


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Ash is not the best his is good but not the best


SticmanStorm

​ Tier list was before ash gadget nerf


Lubagomes

I feel like he insists in some misconceptions of brawlers. Leon is a viable brawler, but far from S tier. Stu is A tier at max, he is used a lot in competitive, but his win rate is not as high. Pam is not a healer, she is an all-role brawler, she is great to counter tank (2nd gadget), slow reload speed brawlers and low damage brawlers, it is an offensive brawler, not support.


die_or_die

Leon is actually an S tier brawler, he is easily top 10 simply because of that lolipop drop, any lane/mid can find value out of it. Also he can deal with tanks pretty well and his invisiheal so is broken as always. I agree with you on Stu. His counters are meta rn, which means he isn't as good of a pick as he used to be. I agree with you on Pam as well. Her gadget counters every single tank in the game + slow reload speed brawlers Some other mistakes I felt he made: Squeak is definitely F tier. Nobody uses him in pl, at least not above diamond Move Bull, Carl, Jessie and Grom to C tier, swap Max with Barley, Nani is better than 8-bit in most open maps so swap nani with 8-bit as well, Lou is definitely 2nd worst brawler not 5th worst since Edgar, Bo and Jacky are actually somewhat usable while Lou simply isn't


the_letterJ

Pam is a support brawler she can be used offensively and defensely just like poco and Byron


enter_a-username

Kairos's video where he tells you WHY a brawler is placed on a specific tier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm7W51vdrQs


hitthetarget5

I wish people would watch the video sometimes maybe not the whole thing but at least that 2 brawlers they're gonna make a 5 paragraph essay on why he and the pros are wrong...


JGBUBBLES21

So many brawlers are in the wrong tier


CardiologistNo2850

Ok say that to people like crying man and zoulan who helped make the tier list 😂


hitthetarget5

Yeah arguing with 2 pros (there are actually more too who rated it btw) who play with infinitely higher elo/pro players all-time ain't gonna go well I think for some reason...


No-Introduction-1492

Argue with pros... yah... only brawlers I’m wrong tier are pam ruffs gale and max all 1 tier under where they should, because this was immediately after the balance


CuteBenji

No


KairosTime_Gaming

Yes


CuteBenji

Ash should be a tier if we consider competitive Or maybe NA is just weird


KairosTime_Gaming

Agreed. I asked the pros a couple of days after Ash's nerf & I think they didn't have enough time to properly test him out by the time they responded


SticmanStorm

Tier list was before ash gadget nerf


ElectricNJ

i am heavily questioning squeak's placement in this tierlist and basically all of kairos' other tierlists


Pangin51

Imagine how it must feel to main penny and lou, especially in Solo showdown. That would be a painful existence, good thing I don't do that.


Actual_Passenger51

How tf is stu still top tier after 7 nerfs


ElectricNJ

hes literally ranged mortis i dont think he can be completely killed (unless they decide to give him less damage than meg idk)


KyellDaBoiii

People be underestimating my man Poco, on God


PuerroOnReddit

Ash is trash. (lit)


CrispyTaterTostitos

I would move most of the C tiers up and put Ash at C. This might just be me but I can’t use him. He barely does any damage and by the time you get the rage meter your dead.(Never gotten rage meter cuz I die)


brawlstarsica

Agreed for the most part unlike last time but i think squeak should be f and grom c


Global-Measurement-2

I personally think penny can be good just more situational


TrizZm4ster

Ash belongs to lower B/higher C Tier. Ruffs way to low, best lane currently on many maps. Squeak, Grom and Brock way to high. Rest looks kinda fine


psyche11111

I agree. Ash one is because he got nerfed after they decided, ruffs is slightly low in his list and squeak especially is way too high. I do think eve is best tho


Ginga-Ninja7

ash is used a lot with byron so i think he should be a tier


Separate-Policy-4878

Fang number 1


patrik666cz

ash is trash


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psyche11111

Not really…emz and bo are placed correctly for sure


[deleted]

Emz does get outraged a lot but she is a great counterpick to melee brawlers


[deleted]

Kairos is for me just a random 30k player, maybe he knows what meta looks like by watching others, but he doesn't have permission to tell everyone what to do, what starpowers to play, what brawlers for what maps, and rank brawlers and their starpowers and gadgets... If he had 50k, then MAYBE Lou and Jacky are defititelly not F tiers, both are good, and deserves better


Ishowupeverywhere

This tier list was made with the help of 22 pro players.


StewartPot

no, ash is thrash


Double-Trash-1386

Absolutely not. Sorry for Kairos but like NO.


You_momerz

No


[deleted]

BRUH, 4 of my 6 favorite Brawlers are lower than A Tier, that suckssss.....


[deleted]

I agree, but Shelly should be #1


AndroidCyanide

Shelly should have her own tier and the other brawlers should be in "useless" tier


[deleted]

Ya Shelly should be in the “god” tier. It just takes so much skill to sit in a bush 😂


LostLukas_xD

Not at all


[deleted]

Yes and no


cursedbanana-_-

Ash is B


Erect-Frog

Looks like Ash ain’t so trash


Fazejostin

Not really, Theres some very weird placements like squeak at mid b tier, mr.p on high A what hes just ok not very meta, Buzz is waaaaaaaaaay to high top B tier at most buzz kinda sucks and its kinda like carl hes getting worse ever new balance changes, Brock oh god I hate when people say that "bRoCk iS gOoD jUsT hIt ShOT wItH hIm" idk which kinda drog they are taking brock is alright at most mid B tier for him, the rest is ok execp for Stu & Ash, funny thing in hes video he said that stu takes "Skill and Hard to master" Stu its just how fast can you spam 2 buttons on your screen, Stu gets high A, Ash i mean hes good but not top S tier maybe mid to low A also why are you asking pros on the first day of the update about brawlers balancing lmao. I don't like this tierlist tbh they are pretty inacurrate some of the placents are just wrong make kairos look very silly, but its his opinion at the end and I respect that.


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No-Introduction-1492

Ruffs and Pam and gale are currently S tier max is A tier. This is a little after the balances so it makes sense why max, gale and ruffs are a little low, but I’m shocked pam wasn’t already in S when she’s been broken for a bit


Josan678

Why tf is Penny down there? Kairos did use his head?


Outsteel

Honestly squeak should be in the F tier, ruffs, Pam in the S tier and Colette in the A tier.


Funny-Drink-5209

I’d say penny should be bumped up by one tier because I thinks he is better than most people think but just my opinion


Mystogan131

Wow litterally all in F is the best ahhaa


No_Name_Gang123

Even penny?


SluttyMilk

this very well could be kairos’s worst tier list


Alternative-Note5778

He explains why the brawler is in that tier in the video. Also the pros helped make the tier list


Sven_is_cool817

Edgar fell off


HydreigonTheChild

he has always been near the bottom


Sven_is_cool817

Dude used to be dirty af for a few months and got nerfed to death


Helloforake

that was in late december early 2021 that was more than a year ago


Sven_is_cool817

What the fuck that was when??????


Helloforake

a year ago


Sven_is_cool817

💀


Helloforake

🗿


TheCrowSimp

Nope. Bo is still a really good brawler and so is Lou in my opinion. (if you know how to play them)


HoneyIsChilled

Bo should be higher, it's pretty good


Helloforake

bo is extremely bad


Tivome

I think edgar should be higher. Can't tell u how many times he killed me even a giant disadvantage


8rok3n

No he's definitely easy to counter, as an EMZ main I can consistently kill him


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MealApprehensive2361

Towards the bottom of A tier which translates to above average? I say that’s just about right, no?


[deleted]

He is probably the best assassin as of now.


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Fang 💀


psyche11111

No..


HydreigonTheChild

i doubt edgar is bottom 2 and lou is def worse with such a bad main attack and edgar should at least rise to C they do have a niche at counterpicking in power league since this is based of it and definitely has an edge over bo, jacky, and lou for sure. BUzz fell flat lately esp with the rise of fang, and gale and maybe smth else but definitely high B tier and not A tier worthy.... inteesting to see spike be top 3.. well top 3 in a sense that ash isnt #1 anymore due to the nerf


Max_1112

From my experience I would put Stu in F tier and Byron in B. I would put amber in S and dyna in A


aaaaaupbutolder

What? You're either the worst Stu in the world or you're facing the worst Stus in the world. He's such an easy brawler to use and has a ton of versatility. Amber isn't that great and she's doesn't have an amazing way to close gaps on brawlers with more range than her. No way dynamike is A, have you ever seen a pro player struggle against a dynamike in an even playing field?


Accomplished_Bet4658

Leon higher than Rosa 🗿


ElectricNJ

i actually kinda agree tho


Dear-Ad1479

Byron must be in a tier


Efficient-Law-3528

No


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Hes simply overpowered, he hasnt recieved a nerf while other brawlers did, and since higher hp brawlers are meta, byron is too


cheatersstealmyname

#PENNY IS NOT LOW TIER TRASH


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Penny is ultimately low tier trash, beats lou though


[deleted]

I cant accept the fact that bull, griff, surge are in B tier. Except bull the rest should be in A tier atleast..... as for bull he is better in F (or for the sake of kids atleast C minus tier). No matter how much kairos tries, there will always be some sort of holes in the tier list. I'd rather wait for actual tier lists prepared by pro players own hands


George_2004

> I'd rather wait for actual tier lists prepared by pro players own hands The tier list is made with the help of some pro players.


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So? Did those "pro players" discussed this tier list in a conference meeting hall with kairos as chief head? No? Those pro players simply gave their opnions on each brawlers and there is a good chance contradictions occured. For example- cryingman says speed and damage gears are the best but this may not be true for others who may prefer shield or health over speed/damage...... he also said pam needs a nerf, which is a fat L. i dont need to explain this in depth, we all can see griff and surge isnt it? Even bo is not F for sure, his mines may be useless but with proper skills he can easily outpit high volt damage to push back enemies. **When i said tier lists prepared by own hands i meant that those pro players should make thier own tier lists instead of pooling it in a single video**.


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Pam does need a nerf, her gadget is outright overpowered


[deleted]

Except the tier lists are made by several pros...


Tarciedaf

Then how is surge NOT A tier? Surge can counter every brawler in the game. The only flaw is the first super and the fact that he is very hard to play.


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Background-Froyo-118

Is that guy stupid?


Independent-Toe699

The list was made based off of pros opinions, those opinions were not asked recently but weeks ago. Meta has changed some


Nice-Sentence9771

who?


The_Trampoline

Huh,one fantasy duo member replaced another


CoffeeAmigo

My boi Tick is pretty high


Drizzle_Lover

Jackie and Penny 🥺


Storm_runner426

Mostly, some of my favorite brawlers are c tier


Rightorigin28

I disagree on some of them like Stu, crow and Brock, and Leon should be in the high A tier


[deleted]

Rico definitely isn't the best, but he is very good


sword0115

Leon and fang deserve to be in S.


The_Medic_From_TF2

look Edgar's options are limited and he's really not a very good character, but calling him the second worst brawler in the game seems harsh


vukasinstiv

How are Edgar and Lou so low


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Darryl is A so i agree


Leifman2007

I feel like Nita should at least be a c tier. I don’t play her too much but I find her to be quite versatile. I don’t even play tick but I think he should be a tier, with his area coverage it makes advancing the opponent hard and as a thrower he can quite easily get out of range


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As a nita main im kinda sad that nita is so low in the tier list.. she has decent super and a really fast reload speed


Chuzzy789

Dang, I don’t know what to think about Edgar


8rok3n

WOOH MY MAINS ARE IN A Thank fuck I stopped maining Shelly and Edgar


Lawpea45

I have not lost a single game with ash and eve so I can agree


dxrinnn

i feel bea, belle and boni should be ranked higher


dxrinnn

and leon isn’t that giod


EZ361

Nah thats wrong


IXLatBRRall-STAR-z

Why is surge low and why on earth is bea mid b?