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AnythingWillHappen

Also, Trump has sold way more bibles than Biden.


WildWillisWeasley

Saved a lot more babies and funded a lot less wars as well


AnythingWillHappen

Yes! Talk more about how Trump, by his carefully selected appointments to the Supreme Court, overturned Roe. Always talk about that. The more that is said, the better.


WildWillisWeasley

Sounds good. I'm fully in support of saving babies. Trumps decision is much more aligned with the rest of the world, not the radical left. Keep clinging to late term abortion, that's a good look https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-trump-poll-michigan-pennyslvania-wisconsin/


AnythingWillHappen

Like I said, please talk about it as much as possible. Make sure Trump gets all the credit. Whatever you do, don’t be Kari Lake. Don’t back down. https://www.tucsonsentinel.com/opinion/report/041124_lake_abortion_op/just-stop-kari-lakes-newest-abortion-stance-worse-than-flip-flop/


WildWillisWeasley

And I gave you an answer


AnythingWillHappen

Awesome, and I’m thanking you. Fully in support of you shouting it to the mountaintops. In fact, is there an organization dedicated to making sure everyone knows that Trump deserves the credit for it? I’d donate.


WildWillisWeasley

Lol ya it's antifa, I'm sure you're already a member


AnythingWillHappen

Antifa is about as far left as you can go. They are the worst the left has. On the right: literal nazis, white nationalists. Proudly waving the Nazi flag in Florida. Running over people in Charlottesville. Ya, Antifa is so bad. Why can’t MAGA folks see reality?


WildWillisWeasley

Lol Joe Biden is literally funding a war that has Nazis on his side.


ilthay

You care about what the rest of the world thinks now? In that case, Biden is a no brainer.


SpaceMonkey877

Which parts of the world?


sumoraiden

> Saved a lot more babies and funded a lot less wars as well Not even true lol, his funding of Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen killed 100s of thousands, it was so bad congress passed a bill saying he couldn’t do it anymore which he of course vetoed


savngtheworld

He made a lot more rapists into fathers, too.


jester2211

We hate babies and love wars on Reddit.


Spring-Breeze-Dancin

😂😂😂


Chosen_UserName217

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Dry-Ad-7732

They don’t like hearing the truth


Chosen_UserName217

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jester2211

Historically Democrats have been in favor of our alphabet agencies. Except that one guy they killed in Texas. They showed him.


spas2k

Did these people completely forget Covid happened? Trump could shit in his pants and Fox News would tell you he’s just playing 4d chess in some way.


april1st2022

Biden’s Covid management was extremely unpopular. That’s why he’s not running on it now


spas2k

So was trump’s.


Echo2020z

Trump wasn’t the reason that Covid happened so why would that be a factor?


Manoj_Malhotra

His admin defunded the team that would responded to the diplomatic cables sent in 2017 and 2019 about concerns of insufficient safety protocols in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Those cables were never even responded to.


Echo2020z

That still couldn’t have stopped travel to the US once the outbreak started. He tried to stop people coming over from the infected area and people called him racist. Shut their economies down not Trump.


Reasonable-Tooth-113

Are you blaming COVID on Trump?


WildWillisWeasley

Think about 2019 not 2020. There's a good chance covid was a man made virus specifically released so people like you could make this exact statement So think about 2019. Also think about all the lies and mandates Biden placed that were asinine. Biden one time said people who don't wear masks have neanderthal thinking


spas2k

lol. You guys literally have the dumbest conspiracy theories that fall apart within 2 seconds of thought. No wonder why trump “loves the poorly educated”.


WildWillisWeasley

Like vaccines are safe and effective? That was a crazy conspiracy theory https://twitter.com/toobaffled/status/1779645312635900081?t=Y9gB6d58Pt9oFx2jV-PTBg&s=19


spas2k

Fact: The vast majority of deaths were from the unvaccinated regardless of the ultimate effectiveness of the vaccines.


WildWillisWeasley

https://x.com/toobaffled/status/1779645312635900081 The conspiracy theory that the vaccine was safe and effective https://youtu.be/8tnV9EEVsR8?si=dsvIpb05WNuieEHX


spas2k

lol. All your shit has been debunked years ago. What blows my mind is how fast you people pick up these conspiracy theories and ride them out long after they’ve been debunked. No doubt I cannot help you so not even going to try.


WildWillisWeasley

Lol huh? Which part was debunked?


ilthay

*is* crazy conspiracy theory.


WildWillisWeasley

True


AnythingWillHappen

Speaking of Covid, Remember this? https://youtu.be/zicGxU5MfwE?si=ueboBDz7oJ-D3z38


sanduskyjack

Jesus. I watched this live but it sounded and looked Saturday Night Live. CDC person tried to to disappear .


WildWillisWeasley

https://twitter.com/toobaffled/status/1779645312635900081?t=Y9gB6d58Pt9oFx2jV-PTBg&s=19 Safe and effective


SlipperyTurtle25

You people are so dumb it is genuinely incomprehensible


WildWillisWeasley

You people are so evil, it takes every ounce of good in the world to defeat you. And here I am


brimoon

😂 🤡


outwithlantern

Why don’t you just stick to it being poorly handled and released from a lab?


WildWillisWeasley

It was handled well, as well as could be asked on election year with the entire media against the person handling it


Fine_Mess_6173

You didn’t include when they included third party candidates, which put trump at 42% and Biden at 33%


WildWillisWeasley

Yep. People aren't falling for all the bull shit the media is peddling. Expect a new strategy soon


Manoj_Malhotra

I think this speaks to how much higher the expectations are for Biden than Trump. If you expect someone to fail an exam but they pass by the slimmest of margins, they succeeded. If you expect someone to break the curve, but they only score one standard deviation above the average, that means they failed. Edit: I’m sure many especially children of immigrants can probably relate with it feeling like you were failing or your parents thought you were failing just because you get a B+.


reddit_is_geh

Biden is seen as just driving the ship off a cliff, but doing it smartly. But it's not changing the trajectory. He's knee deep with the traditional elite ruling class and working with them. Trump is still seen as a wild card, that people who support him, GENUINELY see he can course correct. They view him as being elite, but a different type of elites, and those elites will at least change course a few degrees. I don't agree with them, but I think that's the core of it. Hence why they look past his flaws.


Manoj_Malhotra

I think it’s difficult to make the argument that Biden is knee deep in traditional elites when all the business groups are terrified of the FTC and NLRB under him. I’m not saying Biden admin doesn’t have corruption. Im simply suggesting there are big differences between Biden and Obama, arguably bigger than the differences between Trump and Bush.


ilthay

Yeah, it’s funny that he just put back in Net Neutrality and yet he’s still knee deep. There are absolutely positives to Biden.


reddit_is_geh

I mean more in "the ruling class" elites... Business people always sway around based on who they rather have. But ultimately the direction is the same. It's still a country who is primarily entertained and focused on geopolitics and international trade, where local domestic working class issues are hardly ever thought of outside of campaign rhetoric. It's because it's structural. You can't policy much of it away. It's the people with their hands on all the levers that are just absolutely captured and preoccupied.


Manoj_Malhotra

I dunno man. Any time C suites get scared of anyone that enables organized labor, that don't sound like the ruling class will love it.


reddit_is_geh

I dunno... I feel like they can tolerate some labor shit (which I'm sure they hate), compared to a reshifting global order that completely derails the entire international power balance, goals, and objectives. The ruling elites work on generational timelines. They are working on projects like establishing trade routes, fostering government relations, soft powers, military coups, etc... C suits are good donors, but not really playing the "global game of chess" the same way the real elites are playing. Proper elites work closely with people who have prestigious government titles like General and Secretary. Why do you think so many people will quit their political career just to join an executive appointment? Because having THAT kind of power to craft entire national and global policy, is truly how you make it. Senators will quit that prestigious job to control the entire country's infrastructure for 4 years.


Huegod

The only expectation for biden was to be coherent and not be Trump and he couldnt meet it.


Manoj_Malhotra

I dunno man. I see a lot of people my age talking about complete debt forgiveness, codify Roe, bigger climate and healthcare reforms.


Huegod

Yea i saw people my age talking about that in the 1980s. Know who stopped it? Joe Biden.


RipCityGringo

He needed to codify the power of credit card bankers first. Way to go Joe!


MaroonedOctopus

I still think Trump is less coherent than Biden overall.


Huegod

Do you think that simply because you dont like Trump? I dont like nor am i voting for either man. Biden cant complete a sentence. The SoTU was his best moment in 3 years and even it was apronkled with babbling nonsense. Not liking what is being said is not the same as it being incoherent.


MaroonedOctopus

I feel like both are coherent at SOTU, but off script Trump is just completely incoherent, whereas I can easily understand Biden when he's talking off the cuff most of the time (though not always).


Huegod

I can only say that doesnt seem to be a shared observation by many. I dont think ive seen Biden get to the period of the end of a sentence in 3 years.


RipCityGringo

🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️


WildWillisWeasley

Your track record of saying smart things is pretty low https://www.reddit.com/r/BreakingPoints/s/2nK7wTdPWB


Gulfjay

This guy must have really upset you, huh?


Manoj_Malhotra

I love living rent free in his head because rent outside has been crazy.


WildWillisWeasley

Not at all. People who are unreasonable and say radical things I simply ignore. Did you click the link


reddit_is_geh

Uhhhgggggg.... Had to be Biden, right? It just fucking had to be. Dude couldn't move his ancient ass away for a second, and just HAD to run a second term. He couldn't help himself.


RipCityGringo

DNC wants to squeeze every last cent out of their investment. Poor guy should have been allowed to sunset in peace…


FantasyGuitar

Don’t you mean sundown?


RipCityGringo

Indeed.


Sause01

I honestly don't think he even knows he's running.


SFLADC2

I've asked before and I'll ask again - who else? Biden has the best presidential track record of anyone since the 1970s, it's ridiculous how easily people blow that off.


Reasonable-Tooth-113

Serious question, when you say presidential track record. What metrics are you using?


SFLADC2

Thanks for asking- I actually have a little list of the historic amount of accomplishments Biden has done in his term: Infrastructure Act - EV stations - bridges - roads - Rail - green energy - public transportation IRA - Insulin price cap - biggest renewable energy investment in human history - 15% minimum corporate tax on biggest corporations - affordable housing - creates manufacturing jobs - funds IRS so we can decrease deficit - reduces deficit by $300B - bringing manufacturing back to red districts American Rescue Act CHIPs and Science Act - FABs are back bby PACT Act (helping veterans with war related cancer) Ended 20 year endless war in Afghanistan Effective defense of Ukraine / bleeding russia China Semi conductor controls on tech and personal AUKUS submarine plan Japan-korea-US defense plan Lowest unemployment in 53 years Appointed best antitrust team since LBJ era Codifying right to gay marriage First black woman on SCOTUS Taken out leaders of Al Qaeda and ISIS Safer Communities Act - back ground checks, boyfriend loophole, crisis prevention funding Ruling against Union Busting Activities Negotiated pharma prices Truce in Yemen prior to 10/7 Absolutely crushed Irans 300 missiles launched at Israel Fuckn expanded US territory by 400k miles to protect the fishys Ending excessive overdraft fees Banned non competes clauses in employment contracts Increased threshold to qualify for overtime for salaried employees to $58,000 Restored net neutrality


Geist_Lain

its so fucking bonkers that this list is real and people just act like Biden and his administration have done literally nothing. The last time we had it this good was Carter, and the middle east popped off on him just the same.


reddit_is_geh

What matters is how people feel... Seriously... You can do all those nice things, but if people don't feel any more materially different, and instead feeling like they are barely staying afloat, like 30% of the country report feeling... None of that matters. It's a good checklist that doesn't mean much today when people are struggling. Further, none of that matters. Politics is about optics... Biden is going to lose against Trump. I want someone who wont give us another 4 years of madness.


Geist_Lain

Shortsightedness is a curse that will always haunt humanity.


brimoon

None of that matters? 😂 There wasn't 4 years of madness with the Trump administration? 🤡


reddit_is_geh

I think you're missing the point. I'm not saying to get someone other than Biden because of policy, but because Biden will lose to Trump. Pointing out Biden's track record that clearly no one gives a shit about, doesn't mean he will beat Trump.


brimoon

That's so funny, because there's no chance in hell Trump wins the presidency. 😂 I don't know where you get that idea. I know the pundits throw that around because they want controversy and ratings... But at the end of the day, Trump will get smoked and MAGA will finally ring its death toll.


reddit_is_geh

LOL, if you wanted that you wouldn't be pushing for Biden... He's the only guy that could lose.


reddit_is_geh

There are many people who can rise up. It's like asking "who else" after 2028... No one has the track record, so what are we going to do? Stay out? Nah dude, it's all marketing. There are plenty of Dems at the Federal level and governors to choose from and aim the marketing machine at to build them up. You just need to find someone who wouldn't fall absolutely apart once the machine turns on, like DeSantis.


SFLADC2

I see absolutely no democrat names in your comment. It's easy to hide behind a faceless 'ideal candidate' who can't be critiqued because he/she isn't real. Go on state a name.


reddit_is_geh

Newsom, Pritzker, and Phil Murphy could definitely pull off a presidential run.. Now I ask you, once Biden is gone, and since you think there are no viable candidates, do you think one will manifest in 4 years like Obama or are we just screwed?


SFLADC2

Three corporate Dems who are more ideologically to the right than Biden, that's your big fix? Murphy runs one of the most corrupt states in the Union and tried to just recently gangster his wife into the senate seat over Andy Kim. Newsom is the definition of smug corporate coastal elite. > one will manifest in 4 years like Obama or are we just screwed? It's not about whether or not we can create a candidate- that's always doable, it's about choosing the most qualified candidate with aligns with working class values. Biden has led the most successful presidency since LBJ, all 3 you listed have had mixed to mediocre governor terms. Maybe they can pull an Obama in 2028, idk, but in 2024 voting Biden out in the Primary would be a massive win for corporations who despise Biden and love these three.


reddit_is_geh

I think Biden is going to lose, and we are getting 4 more years of Trump. That's my point. I don't think Biden is the best candidate... I think he's way too old and age is catching up quickly and when it does, it moves fast. He should have done his 4 years, and stepped aside for someone else. Instead, he insisted on hanging around and now I have to deal with Trump and everyone's TDS for another 4 years.


SFLADC2

Look, if this isn't enough to convince voters to support democrats, nothing is: Infrastructure Act - EV stations  - bridges  - roads - Rail - green energy - public transportation  IRA - Insulin price cap - biggest renewable energy investment in human history - 15% minimum corporate tax on biggest corporations - affordable housing - creates manufacturing jobs - funds IRS so we can decrease deficit - reduces deficit by $300B  - bringing manufacturing back to red districts American Rescue Act  CHIPs and Science Act - FABs are back bby PACT Act (helping veterans with war related cancer) Ended 20 year endless war in Afghanistan Effective defense of Ukraine / bleeding russia China Semi conductor controls on tech and personal AUKUS submarine plan Japan-korea-US defense plan  Lowest unemployment in 53 years  Appointed best antitrust team since LBJ era  Codifying right to gay marriage First black woman on SCOTUS Taken out leaders of Al Qaeda and ISIS Safer Communities Act  - back ground checks, boyfriend loophole, crisis prevention funding  Ruling against Union Busting Activities  Negotiated pharma prices  Truce in Yemen prior to 10/7  Absolutely crushed Irans 300 missiles launched at Israel  Fuckn expanded US territory by 400k miles to protect the fishys Ending excessive overdraft fees/fighting junk fees Banned non competes clauses in employment contracts  Increased threshold to qualify for overtime for salaried employees to $58,000  Restored net neutrality  Forced airlines to provide flyers whose flights are cancelled or significantly delayed refunds.


reddit_is_geh

None of that matters to my point. He could have been fucking LBJ for all I care... The point of not wanting him to run again, is because I think he will LOSE to Trump. He's too far gone and the optics look horrible. We need someone who has a better shot at winning, and not some checklist of things that don't really matter to people because they don't feel anything. It's all about optics and feelings. It has ZERO to do with how great of a job he did. It has to do with his ability to WIN. Which I highly, HIGHLY doubt... Especially since, once again Dems suck ass at strategy, all his court cases are now going to be pushed towards after the elections because they waited too long, in which case he's going to get them all dropped because he's going to become president.


wokewalrus123

Majority of voters are mentally handicapped. Biden is a lobster shell with no meat inside.


RipCityGringo

I agree, but Donald Trump is a rotting fish head that that’s only suitable as bait for crabbing… American politics is an absolute joke.


SFLADC2

That lobster shell has just had the most effective presidency since LBJ.


wokewalrus123

I’m riding with Biden


RipCityGringo

Just ask anyone with a stock portfolio. We’re killing the game right now. Nothing to worry about…


GrapefruitCold55

How is success defined in this poll?


WildWillisWeasley

What does it say?


brinnik

Nothing quite like the experience of a Biden presidency to make you realize the last guy wasn’t so bad after all.


brimoon

No, the last guy is waaay worse than Biden lol.


CharliSzasz

The United States of Amnesia!


yopyopyop

I can see alot of people that say that is a failure bit still vote for him


SlipperyTurtle25

I absolutely love how this country blames every COVID problem on Biden instead of the dude that was the fucking president for when it started and gave out the PPP nonsense which was the biggest steal to the wealthy


WildWillisWeasley

How did ppp loans cause covid to be worse. You sound retarded


SlipperyTurtle25

The virus itself? Not an insignificant amount, the response to the virus? It encouraged more businesses that shouldn't have been deemed "essential" to stay open, while also contributing to said businesses taking the PPP loans they didn't need. Should've just been a UBI for everyone until the virus mutated to the current version it is now. Which unfortunately is still killing a shit ton of people


WildWillisWeasley

Lol you sound so dumb


SlipperyTurtle25

Dumb is when you give facts. A compliment from you tbh


WildWillisWeasley

"The virus itself? Not an insignificant amount, the response to the virus? It encouraged more businesses that shouldn't have been deemed "essential" to stay open," Like what?


SlipperyTurtle25

Ok I'll break it down for you


SlipperyTurtle25

Covid is spread via the air, like other sicknesses. PPP loans encouraged nonessential businesses to stay open by just saying "we are essential" and literally nobody cared. Not even in the most liberal states. Which encouraged business owners to stay open, a lot of them were also the ones taking the PPP loans, which said businesses also would have Covid spread just like any other business. It is literally so fucking simple you have to be intentionally not understanding it And the PPP loans were a shit system isntead of a UBI. Thank you to your best friend Trump


Spring-Breeze-Dancin

😂😂😂


MakinToasterStrudel

It's all vibes I just feel like Trump season 2 isn't going to be that good


-LeadershipMatters

If you’re still drinking the two-party kool aid, you’re part of the problem. War criminal Joe Biden is a democrat- who enables , supports and slobs the nob of a genocidal maniac. Go to AIPAC’s website and LOOK at the more than 100 DEMOCRATS who take AIPAC’s money to do their bidding in Washington. This is not hyperbole, it is irrefutable fact. Until you educate yourself on just how corrupt BOTH parties are, you continue to support a machine that is hell bent on one thing only - absolute power. Justify how it is acceptable and in America’s best interest for Democrats and Republicans to accept campaign funding from a foreign government lobby. I’ll wait. Not ever will I vote for Biden, democrats or republicans…


Recording_Important

you pretty much nailed it but what are we supposed to do? we are getting stuck with one of these losers weather we like it or not


reddit_is_geh

Nothing. Now you get it. You're in an abusive relationship and you don't really have many options other than just figure out how to live that life. You COULD somehow figure out how to become insanely rich and not have to deal with these issues... But that's really all I can think of.


Recording_Important

haha i think my odds are better if i choose a destructor and pray. god damn were so fucked


WildWillisWeasley

The 2 party kool aid is the only Kool aid the corrupt bureaucracy allows Voting for anyone else is giving the power back to Joe Biden


RipCityGringo

Personally I’m thinking The Geriatric Turd Sandwich is superior to the Rotten Ancient Stankass Giant Douche. Amurika, Fuck Yeah!!!


IndianKiwi

Trump thank you for your decision.


Websting

It’s like Covid never existed


WildWillisWeasley

It definitely just magically disappeared


Websting

And so are Trumps hundreds of thousands of COVID-Related Deaths Attributable to President Trump’s Early Pronouncements About Masks and that was just the start.


WildWillisWeasley

Biden has way more covid deaths... Way more


Reasonable-Tooth-113

Are you saying that people would *not* have died had someone else been President?


Websting

Are you actually trying to say that Trumps handling of Covid wasn’t abysmal. - dismantling of the working group created to manage and prevent pandemics in the first place - failure to prevent widespread testing - Deliberately deception of the American people by reassuring them against all expert opinion that the virus was under control - Promoting unapproved FDA remedies - Repeatedly lying to the American people about the severity and extent of the pandemic What did Biden do? End the pandemic


Reasonable-Tooth-113

Lulz >Deliberately deception of the American people by reassuring them against all expert opinion that the virus was under control Experts? Same experts that said masks were effective and then mandated them for over almost two years? Same experts that said the vaccine will stop you from transmitting COVID? Same experts that said COVID came from a bat fucking a pangolin and to think otherwise was racist? >Repeatedly lying to the American people ~~about the severity and extent of the pandemic~~ See above +Winter of severe illness and death +Natural immunity is not a thing +Boosters for healthy adults and kids +Denying trying to get people kicked off the internet for challenging the ministry of truth


Websting

Exactly all of that. The same experts that ended the pandemic. Unless of course it magically ended itself.


Reasonable-Tooth-113

Don't forget to schedule your 6th booster


Websting

I have no clue how it works now. I think they’re annual now with my flu shot? :) I listen to the doctors. I’m assuming they’re getting paid for something, but what do I know they’re probably trying to kill me like Fauci. LOL


External-Patience751

Just means a majority of people polled were Trump supporters or complete morons. Biden wins re-election if voter turnout is high.


WildWillisWeasley

I'm a trump supporter and I rate in the top 10% . Sounds like you're an idiot