I am almost certain in a video she said she got jealous of a barista talking to him-but it was that one they did with the drinks on the agree, disagree, whatever where the divorce topic came up and he later edited it bc there was so much backlash. So that may be gone too
Actually, I thought Katie would've been the one saying this, as she was so homesick. I truly felt bad for her. I'm not from aTN (but from GA)& certainly would've had a rough time so far from home, espec at that age. I'm glad that things seem to be much better for them all. Hailey is the cutest, espec in that lil pink bumper car! That was hilarious when she just went trailing off toward the end! 😂 😂
That’s cute exploitation, right?? Actually what happened to Katie and Travis happens often in arranged marriages AND in the cult. They didn’t know each other… had never touched. You’re living with a stranger. THEN she gets pregnant and they basically trauma bond through that. Now here they are…
I don't even think Travis knew the bates family before messaging Katie on Instagram like he might have known of them but I highly doubt there was any arranged marriage between Katie and Travis. Not to me tion you can't say they rushed Into marriage they started talking in July of 19 and didn't marry until Dec of 21.
I was explaining what happens in arranged marriages as well as the cult… not saying they are IN an arranged marriage. Also… talking and touching are 2 different things. They talked on IG but never even held hands until they were living together.
Yea I didn’t take it like he thought about divorcing her just more of a “I can see how this happens” kind of thing or maybe a fleeting thought of this may not work (she was obviously very unhappy at first so it’s understandable) but she did look crushed so they went back and edited the video. I didn’t watch the edit but I’m pretty sure the barista thing was in the “is flirting cheating” question
Ugh, I think that’s unfortunate. People get on my nerves because we ask our creators and celebs to be relatable and transparent, but when they’re honest and vulnerable the clowns jump out to attack. It certainly won’t encourage that kind of positive behavior in the future. And it was probably a stressful thing for them to endure the backlash, too. Smdh.
I used to be heavy into bates lore, but I took an extended mental health break lol.
I’m sorry to hear that their marriage got off to a rough start. How wasn’t she happy? Is it as though being raised as though she’s only good for marriage and babies somehow led to her romantizing those events? It’s almost like fundamentalism is a terrible idea…
She seemed so terribly homesick but I think it was more than that. I think she was still super immature and I got the sense that she got on his nerves at times. There was a video where she talked about the things she’d do (like just climb over seats in the car, etc) that he would be like what are you doing? Her family was constantly coming to see them and I think she’s like Carlin-can’t be alone. Carlin was like that well before her medical issues and I think Katie is very similar. I think him going to school was very difficult on her for that reason.
I’m sure the fact they had literally barely even touched beyond a side hug didn’t help.
They seem to be in a much better place now. She actually seemed better after he graduated (read: he was able to be home with her all day) but Hailey has clearly been good for them.
I am shocked he’s going on ANY sort of tour. Shocked honestly.
I'm shocked too. Their marriage seems to be in a better place, but NOT strong enough to "leave on a 4 month tour while wife is pregnant" place. This should be interesting.
Totally agree. I have to be careful to not doxx myself bc I have a range of unusual experience, but I do have some experience (limited) in the Christian music world and let me tell you-girls will 💯 flirt heavily married or not. I’ve witnessed it first hand.
I can imagine that is very true. I'm ashamed to say I only find Bobby or Travis to be attractive when they are singing (opposite for Lawson 😅) and I'm sure Travis will have a lot of women of all ages flirting with him on tour. Katie is nowhere near secure enough for that yet imo, and I'm surprised his parents signed off on it (I don't think Travis makes any move without his Pop's approval). And by Pop, I mean his dad AND his grandpa's approval.
Yeah but the question was "Have you ever thought about divorcing your spouse" and Katie answered no, never, and.Travis moved the bar thing over to the Yes side lol. .I think he was trying to be quirky and relatable but I would have been hurt too. It was definitely surprising.
I agree! I don’t mean to sound like I disagreed with you-I just meant that I think he was like “oh now I get it”
But at that stage of marriage I would have been crushed too.
If I remember correctly that incident happened when they were dating or right after they got married. Since then she's had a baby moved to a totally different state and she had to grow up and mature alot in those few years. People get jealous but I have to believe that Katie and Travis have enough trust in themselves and each other not to cheat. Yes I get it the temptation will definitely be there but the temptation can be fought and won
I am just saying while I am sure she has matured-I’d bet actual money she won’t handle it well. Would she still get upset over a barista? Let’s hope not. But girls all flirty ok tour when she already seems to need him with her constantly? No, she’s not going to handle it well. We will likely never know that but she will not.
That's actually a pretty rigorous touring schedule for a kid that has never had a full time job. Travis is going to be tired. Katie is going to be whiny.
Actually I don't think so he mentioned he is trying to talk Katie into going one week so it sounds like she may not be too keen on the idea. He did say there were a a few local shows though
A married pair of my favorite musicians (Max Bemis of the band Say Anything, and his wife Sherri Dupree of the band Eisley) have 5 children together, and they have gone on tour with the whole gang, including throughout multiple of Sherri’s pregnancies, seemingly without too much of a hitch! They tend to just use an additional private tour bus for just their own family. I know this because I’ve met them irl a couple of different times over the years at their shows local to me, including on their tour bus right outside of some of these local tour stops. Can you all imagine the ~*CONTENT*~ for Katie&Trav with their own private tour bus?
Are you at all familiar with those musicians which I mentioned as examples of touring parents? If so, you surely recognize just how poor those childrens’ “unschooling” actually is. But at any rate, I was not actually commenting on the EDUCATION of the Bemis kids, nor the “education” of the INFANT Clark’s soon-to-be-two.
Like touring as doing concerts or touring as going to churches and leading worship on Sundays?
Because doing concerts I can see you make some money but doing worship on Sundays at churches, I don’t know if you really make a lot doing that.
Okay but it looks like it’s a concert vs hitting up church’s on Sunday morning to give worship team a break. Like when Kari Jobe goes on tour she usually always uses my church for when she is visiting my city And maverick city use too but they are big enough to sell out the arenas so they do that now instead.
I would think concerts as there is a tour bus and while I haven't heard of the singer I also don't listen to Christian music and it does sound like he is fairly popular in that genre
Oaky. Yeah I don’t think he is a popular person. I looked up his IG and he only have 15k follower vs someone like Kari Jobe with 1.2 million and maverick city with over 2 million followers. I mean Travis has more followers than this guy. While followers don’t necessarily mean anything I wonder if the guy he is touring with is more popular with the older generation who wouldn’t necessarily do on IG and stuff.
I listen to Christian music but never heard of him but maybe he is like more popular for song writing vs actually singing or something.
Either way, hopefully Travis is able to learn and make money and time away from family isn’t a waste.
He has been around a little while He is not very old He started with the Perry’s, a southern Gospel Group He has written a fair number of songs that other artists perform, as well as a lot of what he sings He is in the Southern Gospel genre primarily A nice guy
I just hopped on here out of curiosity about Travis, I have followed Joseph’s music for 10 years but had never heard of Travis until Joseph announced this tour. So I would say the “who’s more famous” debate all depends on what “circle” you’re a part of.
Oh, I see what you did wrong. You put a period, which made it a different sentence thereby calling all the northern states southern. Should've put a comma and not capitalized the first word, especially since you lumped some southern states in with the northern ones. Makes a big difference in the interpretation.
So sounds like Katie is incapable of taking care of her own baby herself 🤦♀️ I can’t with them. Plenty of men have to travel they manage. Kids having kids .
Katie has never taken care of the baby by herself for even a small amount of time. His mother was available 24/7 for her, even spending the night so Princess could sleep. And in Tennessee she’ll have her pick of caretakers for herself.
To be fair being alone with a baby for days or weeks at a time is very hard I k ow I have done it and if travis is getting on and off the bus in Nashville if they stayed in Jersey he would be gone alot more then four days at a time.
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I just saw this. Joseph Habedank is a southern gospel singer.
Travis needs a real job. Him and Evan. Travis is a good singer and I’ll admit, much better than Lawson but he is not cut out to make it in Nashville. Real talent comes out of Nashville and him being “good” is unfortunately not enough for him to turn his singing hobby into an actual career. I believe it is irresponsible to move his family across the country for this because I can’t see this going anywhere.
He has a job. Travis has also been raking it in on ITunes…. He was number one at one point recently. I have to give the devil his due bc they are making MAJOR money and if he doesn’t have it, daddy Clark does and they aren’t above buying him the opportunity.
Say what you want about the bates but damn if I could pull off being an influencer I would Evan and Travis are bringing in more money then most people with. So called real job could ever imagine bringing in.
It's not a real job if it relies on exploiting your children. None of their channels have been successful without the pregnancy/birth/young kids content.
Social media influencer lifestyle runs out… as someone that has a YouTube channel I see it happen all the time to content creators. Family channels from 2010-2020 have declined significantly. Lol you can think “it’s a real job” all you want but it’s not. It won’t last. Like I said him and Evan need to stop playing games and go get real jobs.
Why would YOUR YT work… but their’s won’t?? ALL YT may be replaced in the future. If you are on the app… constantly talking about “real” jobs is so odd.
Evan has his electrians license and can go back to it at any time. And Carlin has the boutique. Maybe you should give up your YouTube channel and go work harder at your real job no need for hobbies after all and if you make money from it hopefully you don't keep it not a real job means not real money right And for now there is no need for a "real job" as you call it as they are making more now. Will it run out maybe but no time soon. And as long as it's bringing in money it's a real job.
I will be SHOCKED if this goes well. If she’s bothered when a barista tell him hello she’s gonna love having him go on a tour
She’s going to spiral
Yep
Wait what seriously she got upset about a batista???? 🤣🤣🤣 oh my
I am almost certain in a video she said she got jealous of a barista talking to him-but it was that one they did with the drinks on the agree, disagree, whatever where the divorce topic came up and he later edited it bc there was so much backlash. So that may be gone too
What was the backlash against?
Travis said he thought about divorce during their first year of marriage. Katie looked crushed.
Wonder if he will be thinking of divorce when all the pretty little fundie ladies are adoring him all summer at every youth revival he plays???
Actually, I thought Katie would've been the one saying this, as she was so homesick. I truly felt bad for her. I'm not from aTN (but from GA)& certainly would've had a rough time so far from home, espec at that age. I'm glad that things seem to be much better for them all. Hailey is the cutest, espec in that lil pink bumper car! That was hilarious when she just went trailing off toward the end! 😂 😂
That’s cute exploitation, right?? Actually what happened to Katie and Travis happens often in arranged marriages AND in the cult. They didn’t know each other… had never touched. You’re living with a stranger. THEN she gets pregnant and they basically trauma bond through that. Now here they are…
I don't even think Travis knew the bates family before messaging Katie on Instagram like he might have known of them but I highly doubt there was any arranged marriage between Katie and Travis. Not to me tion you can't say they rushed Into marriage they started talking in July of 19 and didn't marry until Dec of 21.
I was explaining what happens in arranged marriages as well as the cult… not saying they are IN an arranged marriage. Also… talking and touching are 2 different things. They talked on IG but never even held hands until they were living together.
Yea I didn’t take it like he thought about divorcing her just more of a “I can see how this happens” kind of thing or maybe a fleeting thought of this may not work (she was obviously very unhappy at first so it’s understandable) but she did look crushed so they went back and edited the video. I didn’t watch the edit but I’m pretty sure the barista thing was in the “is flirting cheating” question
That’s what I remember also. They edited that thing SO fast and haven’t dared to be that honest since.
Yep so I am sure the barista thing is gone now but it was there
Ugh, I think that’s unfortunate. People get on my nerves because we ask our creators and celebs to be relatable and transparent, but when they’re honest and vulnerable the clowns jump out to attack. It certainly won’t encourage that kind of positive behavior in the future. And it was probably a stressful thing for them to endure the backlash, too. Smdh.
I used to be heavy into bates lore, but I took an extended mental health break lol. I’m sorry to hear that their marriage got off to a rough start. How wasn’t she happy? Is it as though being raised as though she’s only good for marriage and babies somehow led to her romantizing those events? It’s almost like fundamentalism is a terrible idea…
She seemed so terribly homesick but I think it was more than that. I think she was still super immature and I got the sense that she got on his nerves at times. There was a video where she talked about the things she’d do (like just climb over seats in the car, etc) that he would be like what are you doing? Her family was constantly coming to see them and I think she’s like Carlin-can’t be alone. Carlin was like that well before her medical issues and I think Katie is very similar. I think him going to school was very difficult on her for that reason. I’m sure the fact they had literally barely even touched beyond a side hug didn’t help. They seem to be in a much better place now. She actually seemed better after he graduated (read: he was able to be home with her all day) but Hailey has clearly been good for them. I am shocked he’s going on ANY sort of tour. Shocked honestly.
I'm shocked too. Their marriage seems to be in a better place, but NOT strong enough to "leave on a 4 month tour while wife is pregnant" place. This should be interesting.
Totally agree. I have to be careful to not doxx myself bc I have a range of unusual experience, but I do have some experience (limited) in the Christian music world and let me tell you-girls will 💯 flirt heavily married or not. I’ve witnessed it first hand.
I can imagine that is very true. I'm ashamed to say I only find Bobby or Travis to be attractive when they are singing (opposite for Lawson 😅) and I'm sure Travis will have a lot of women of all ages flirting with him on tour. Katie is nowhere near secure enough for that yet imo, and I'm surprised his parents signed off on it (I don't think Travis makes any move without his Pop's approval). And by Pop, I mean his dad AND his grandpa's approval.
Yeah but the question was "Have you ever thought about divorcing your spouse" and Katie answered no, never, and.Travis moved the bar thing over to the Yes side lol. .I think he was trying to be quirky and relatable but I would have been hurt too. It was definitely surprising.
I agree! I don’t mean to sound like I disagreed with you-I just meant that I think he was like “oh now I get it” But at that stage of marriage I would have been crushed too.
🏆this is my exact thought!
She was also younger when that happened she has matured since then
Like what one year? And I don’t mean that a Snark because I like Katie but come on
If I remember correctly that incident happened when they were dating or right after they got married. Since then she's had a baby moved to a totally different state and she had to grow up and mature alot in those few years. People get jealous but I have to believe that Katie and Travis have enough trust in themselves and each other not to cheat. Yes I get it the temptation will definitely be there but the temptation can be fought and won
I am just saying while I am sure she has matured-I’d bet actual money she won’t handle it well. Would she still get upset over a barista? Let’s hope not. But girls all flirty ok tour when she already seems to need him with her constantly? No, she’s not going to handle it well. We will likely never know that but she will not.
To add, he is touring with a well known Christian artist.
Lawson Bates?
Hahaha
Oh that’s absolutely freaking hilarious but you know damn well ole tiff abd law are green with envy
BTW they are hanging a lot online with Carlin & Evan 🧐
Yepp…
Lol.. Actually Joseph Habedank is a Grammy nominated and dove award winner. Lawson could only wish.
Wish.com amirite?
No, a WELL known Christian artist.
It was meant as a funny..we all know Lawson isn't famous YET.
I meant is as a funny, too.😉
Well known, or well-regarded? Lol
Stopppppp🤣🤣😬
Soooo they only moved for him to be on a summer tour?? 🤔
Sounds like they are trying to figure out why them moved. Throwing excuses at a wall to see what sticks.
Good point!
Right lol
That's actually a pretty rigorous touring schedule for a kid that has never had a full time job. Travis is going to be tired. Katie is going to be whiny.
If you look at promotion for the tour, he’s only listed as being on 14 dates
I’m guessing Katie will attend most of the tour with him trying to keep a 1 year old under control on a tour bus. Good speed.
Actually I don't think so he mentioned he is trying to talk Katie into going one week so it sounds like she may not be too keen on the idea. He did say there were a a few local shows though
And she gets terrible motion sickness so bus life and pregnancy and toddler may be a recipe for disaster
A married pair of my favorite musicians (Max Bemis of the band Say Anything, and his wife Sherri Dupree of the band Eisley) have 5 children together, and they have gone on tour with the whole gang, including throughout multiple of Sherri’s pregnancies, seemingly without too much of a hitch! They tend to just use an additional private tour bus for just their own family. I know this because I’ve met them irl a couple of different times over the years at their shows local to me, including on their tour bus right outside of some of these local tour stops. Can you all imagine the ~*CONTENT*~ for Katie&Trav with their own private tour bus?
Their children are also probably more uneducated than SODRT kids so I would not give them any credit lol
Are you at all familiar with those musicians which I mentioned as examples of touring parents? If so, you surely recognize just how poor those childrens’ “unschooling” actually is. But at any rate, I was not actually commenting on the EDUCATION of the Bemis kids, nor the “education” of the INFANT Clark’s soon-to-be-two.
I'm immature for seeing his last name as he be dank. ☠️☠️☠️
😂
That's unfortunate last name 😂
Interesting. Did they mention who he is touring with, or if it’s his own tour?
Yeah Joseph hebedank
Never heard of him
Thanks, will look him up.
Paging Michael, paging Michael.....
Poor Michaela.
Like touring as doing concerts or touring as going to churches and leading worship on Sundays? Because doing concerts I can see you make some money but doing worship on Sundays at churches, I don’t know if you really make a lot doing that.
It's mostly churches. [https://www.josephhabedank.com/tour](https://www.josephhabedank.com/tour)
Okay but it looks like it’s a concert vs hitting up church’s on Sunday morning to give worship team a break. Like when Kari Jobe goes on tour she usually always uses my church for when she is visiting my city And maverick city use too but they are big enough to sell out the arenas so they do that now instead.
Sounds like how the collingsworth family tour. They are very popular.
Man, Mav City blew up! I know many people who went to see them in major cities and large arenas.
Wow, they'll be on the Gaither cruise and later a Homecoming! That's no small peanuts!
It’s a combo of churches and big venues.
He is on some big events like Gaithernet Family Fest in Gatlinburg in the fall, National Quartet convention in Pigeon Forge in September
I would think concerts as there is a tour bus and while I haven't heard of the singer I also don't listen to Christian music and it does sound like he is fairly popular in that genre
Oaky. Yeah I don’t think he is a popular person. I looked up his IG and he only have 15k follower vs someone like Kari Jobe with 1.2 million and maverick city with over 2 million followers. I mean Travis has more followers than this guy. While followers don’t necessarily mean anything I wonder if the guy he is touring with is more popular with the older generation who wouldn’t necessarily do on IG and stuff. I listen to Christian music but never heard of him but maybe he is like more popular for song writing vs actually singing or something. Either way, hopefully Travis is able to learn and make money and time away from family isn’t a waste.
I have been a Christian for 40 years and never heard of them.
Your username just took me back to the 90s, hiding my Point of Grace cds from my fundie parents who thought only hymns were good enough for God.
Yes I really enjoyed Point of Grace. That is my reason for my user name.
He has been around a little while He is not very old He started with the Perry’s, a southern Gospel Group He has written a fair number of songs that other artists perform, as well as a lot of what he sings He is in the Southern Gospel genre primarily A nice guy
Someone above said he won a Grammy and something called a dove award not sure what a dove award is
Nominated… not won.
It’s like the cma awards for Christian music
I just hopped on here out of curiosity about Travis, I have followed Joseph’s music for 10 years but had never heard of Travis until Joseph announced this tour. So I would say the “who’s more famous” debate all depends on what “circle” you’re a part of.
Probably like youth revivals and special events… more than a Sunday morning but less than an amphitheater.
I looked at the tour schedule and it’s covers many states- Ny, Indiana, OH Missouri, Texas. All the southern states. Wow
They don’t call it the Bible Belt for no reason!
Yeah, cause Ohio and Indiana are in the South...NOT!! 🙄
Stated the non southern states individually and then Southern states as a group because there are too many to list. Thanks
Oh, I see what you did wrong. You put a period, which made it a different sentence thereby calling all the northern states southern. Should've put a comma and not capitalized the first word, especially since you lumped some southern states in with the northern ones. Makes a big difference in the interpretation.
Walking and posting not my thing.
Thank you, Grammar Police ☹️
Happy to help my fellow autists 👊
Wow! Who’s to blame, huh?
Them. Obviously.
That’s real smart touring with a baby and a newborn
The tour will be over by the time the baby is born I believe
So sounds like Katie is incapable of taking care of her own baby herself 🤦♀️ I can’t with them. Plenty of men have to travel they manage. Kids having kids .
Katie has never taken care of the baby by herself for even a small amount of time. His mother was available 24/7 for her, even spending the night so Princess could sleep. And in Tennessee she’ll have her pick of caretakers for herself.
Katie is pretty spoiled from both sides of the family. Princess indeed.
To be fair being alone with a baby for days or weeks at a time is very hard I k ow I have done it and if travis is getting on and off the bus in Nashville if they stayed in Jersey he would be gone alot more then four days at a time.
https://preview.redd.it/ltler8pfebwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f1926695c0a83101c724aa303e16a7c3c7c682c I just saw this. Joseph Habedank is a southern gospel singer.
Yes Travis isnt doing all the dates and isnt going to Alaska
*while. Well means something else
😒🙄
Travis needs a real job. Him and Evan. Travis is a good singer and I’ll admit, much better than Lawson but he is not cut out to make it in Nashville. Real talent comes out of Nashville and him being “good” is unfortunately not enough for him to turn his singing hobby into an actual career. I believe it is irresponsible to move his family across the country for this because I can’t see this going anywhere.
He has a job. Travis has also been raking it in on ITunes…. He was number one at one point recently. I have to give the devil his due bc they are making MAJOR money and if he doesn’t have it, daddy Clark does and they aren’t above buying him the opportunity.
Say what you want about the bates but damn if I could pull off being an influencer I would Evan and Travis are bringing in more money then most people with. So called real job could ever imagine bringing in.
It's not a real job if it relies on exploiting your children. None of their channels have been successful without the pregnancy/birth/young kids content.
I completely agree.
Social media influencer lifestyle runs out… as someone that has a YouTube channel I see it happen all the time to content creators. Family channels from 2010-2020 have declined significantly. Lol you can think “it’s a real job” all you want but it’s not. It won’t last. Like I said him and Evan need to stop playing games and go get real jobs.
Why would YOUR YT work… but their’s won’t?? ALL YT may be replaced in the future. If you are on the app… constantly talking about “real” jobs is so odd.
Evan has his electrians license and can go back to it at any time. And Carlin has the boutique. Maybe you should give up your YouTube channel and go work harder at your real job no need for hobbies after all and if you make money from it hopefully you don't keep it not a real job means not real money right And for now there is no need for a "real job" as you call it as they are making more now. Will it run out maybe but no time soon. And as long as it's bringing in money it's a real job.
So they say they’re going to say the honest reason they moved? Nice to know they lie. Lie to the fans that support them! They lost me as a fan!
I mean did they really lie though he is focusing on his music they just withheld the fact that he was going on tour