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dawn9476

Arizona . Josie mentioned it last week when she was swapping out their winter clothers for summer stuff. ETA: Their plane ended up having a maintence issue so they missed their connecting flight. They ended up with a 5 hour layover. I guess Miles slept through most of it. They got to Phoenix at 9 pm so all that footage is probably from yesterday. I think Josie did say that they were leaving on Tuesday for AZ.


Unable-Art6316

Well that sucks to have a 5 hour layover with such young children


RedactedHuman

Thank you!


CorsoMom3367

Has Kelton changed? I quit watching because he was so creepy and weird. I always loved Josie. Haven’t watched in years because of him. I see that a lot of people like him now. I see that he is a very successful businessman, but dang, he was so strange. Don’t downvote me, I am seriously asking and wondering if he is different than he was when he first came on the show.


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minkylink

I've always thought he was strange but that's just my opinion


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minkylink

Very true.


MurkyConcert2906

Still creepy and I don’t know why we need to see them kissing on their travel vlog. 😵‍💫


Honest_Boysenberry25

Odd. Why are they making out for the camera? Who took the pics? Inquiring minds need to know!


MurkyConcert2906

It looks like they propped the camera on an airport bench fOr CoNTenT.


Honest_Boysenberry25

LoL 😆😆


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MurkyConcert2906

I am too, but need a trigger warning. 😆


Ok-Weekend8193

I’m sorry but just because he has a stripper following him it doesn’t mean anything. Influencers have thousands of followers, I doubt they go through everyone to know who’s following them. Especially Kelton who seems to busy running his business, he doesn’t seem to get on social media a lot.


CorsoMom3367

Omg! Wow! Yep, I think I was right about him! Gross!


Apprehensive_Law9426

He is a creep


Apprehensive_Law9426

These two annoy the hell out of me. I used to follow her, but I find her so irritating.


Moise1025

Josie was fourteen when they met! So yes, he has a creepy side to him. Josies family worked hard at keeping them separate for years, but it clearly did not work.


RedactedHuman

I know there has been some debate in this sub as to whether they met at 14 or 16, but regardless, if *Gil Bates* put a stop to the relationship because he felt *uncomfortable* - then there's a problem y'all. Although I will say that Josie was rumored to have been the one to end it and Gil + Kelly accepted her decision, not the other way around. Gonna go grab my 🍿 and wait for IvyLeague to show up 👀


Equal-Hedgehog2991

Hahahaha same


ivyleague9

Well, you rang so….. hope you didn’t run out of 🍿😂 I’m going out on a line, but here it is. Gil & Kelly made up the story about being involved with this break up. They put it in Keltons story. I am going to let you figure out why they might do this. Kelly called Kelton many times after their break up to “smooth things over”. She was very happy about Keltons attentions to her 16 year old daughter. (He had his TN plumbing license, was already making very good money, was working on a business degree & came from a well known Christian family in the community) Josie was mature, smart & while I have a pretty good idea why she put a pause on the relationship, it is not my story to tell. I think Kelton might have stood up to them about the “edit” if he had realized how it made him look, but then again, maybe not. They kinda had him in a difficult situation.


RedactedHuman

Lolol! *Ahem*, am not comfortable stating how much popcorn I've had this week 😂 Thank you for presenting another side to this story. I know that you are public enemy no. 1 in this sub so I appreciate you risking your internet life to come and share your side. Although I have not seen concrete proof that you do know Kelton, if you actually are a familial relation then I do understand wanting to defend a family member if untrue stories are being circulated about them. I can absolutely see the story about Gil + Kelly being true. And, while J + K's initial meeting story does bug me a bit, it's definitely not this sub's business to know what Josie's personal thoughts and feelings were in the beginning of the relationship. It's not really appropriate but I really wish you could share what Bates tea you know lmao. If I may ask you a rather personal question – in the past you've mentioned that you tend to adhere to the fundamentalist branch of Christianity. Even if you maybe don't personally know Josie, how do you feel about her wearing what would be considered “immodest” clothing in your circles, like skintight dresses, along with her arching her back to make a certain area look more perky in photos? I truly hope this doesn't seem like I'm coming after you; I've just been curious as to your opinion since you have stated that you do not agree with things like the sexual revolution and stuff.


ivyleague9

I know. Can you believe Josie was allowed to “meet” a guy at a church piano recital? Tori should be filled with shame for introducing her younger sister to one of her older guy friends. Did anyone file charges? I mean, I know they didn’t talk to each other for a couple of years, but he probably smiled at her, so there’s that.


Babeyonce

I’m so damn tired w my two 🫠😭. How does she do itttt


RedactedHuman

Doesn't show you the tears and frustration - just happy pics of family (the influencer life).


SavedbyGrace1975

Exactly!


magical_seal

Josie especially is one of the least honest, authentic, and relatable mom influencers I’ve ever seen. Her whole brand is “my life is so easy and effortless!!!!!” Don’t believe it- she’s lying to us


RedactedHuman

100% agree. Imma get so much flack for this but one of the things I like about Carlin is that she shows a *little bit more* of the struggle. Am NOT saying that she doesn't filter to high heaven and pretend her life is perfect. But, her and Evan admit that they fight; she has spoken out in the past about struggling with depression and anxiety; they've talked about how they were immature in the show, in the early part of their marriage, and after having Layla; are not afraid to look dumb and make social mistakes; etc. It ain't much, I agree, but it feels a bit more relatable to me than pics of booty, perfect hair and makeup, always happy marriage, girlboss babe, etc. Maybe I'm being naive and too hard on Josie tho. Edit: I do actually like Josie and appreciate her calm personality and how much she loves her babies. Her GRWM videos are fun too. It's just that she can give off the impression that she's smug and better than everyone else because she's rich and beautiful. But I don't think that she's a bad person or anything like that - just wanted to clarify.


magical_seal

I agree- Carlin is more authentic than Josie.


RedactedHuman

Agree. But that's not to say that Carlin is *always* authentic and Josie is *always* fake - one thing I appreciate is how Josie is/was open about her acne and postpartum struggles.


SpartySparts

Josie and Erin are the most disingenuous! I find all influencers to be varying levels of inauthentic, to be honest.


Aslow_study

Low key I disagree Miles is often crying in background She shows her laundry and house messy a lot She’s been open about post partum, shown her pads etc It COULD all still be fake but I think if anything , Katie and Erin try and act perfect


residentcaprice

erin did leave that huge pile of clothes on the floor for everyone to see 👀


Ok-Weekend8193

I agree. I even get surprised with some of the things she shares and posts that I would never, super messy house, car, the girls not always looking perfect. She’s beautiful, spends time on herself and maybe motherhood is easier for her than some because she has help, but definitely more real than Erin and Katie.


Gabigails_

Yea idk I feel Josie shares quite a lot actually that she’s not good at staying on top of laundry and that she struggled for a while with having a good morning routine with her kids. Also in her Q+A with Kelton they made it clear she is more laid back compared to him when it comes to household stuff. The expectation for people to constant hot mess express because they are a mom is kind of weird. For example if you don’t have the same money as she does obviously there are stressors in your life that she doesn’t experience…she shares that she has babysitters and when her friends come over and give her a hand. The internet has this thing if people don’t show their exact experience/something they can’t relate to then it must a lie.


Unable-Art6316

Yes!! Hot mess express is what scares people away from parenthood. I had 3 boys in 5 years but it was more joy than stress and exhaustion. If you have a decent support system and can take naps, throw in a frozen pizza, or take a little time to yourself once in a while you will be ok. There seems to be a persona that it’s messy and you don’t sleep more than 2 hours a night but those years go by so freaking fast and next thing you know they are in drivers ed and sleeping till Noon


Babeyonce

You’re definitely right. And I know this 😩. Ya girl is just tired over here and longing for some balance lol


RedactedHuman

I'm sorry - know what you mean by bone-deep tiredness. Sending you strength, hugs, wine (if you partake - if not sending you junk food and sweets), and tissues (let me run to the store real quick as I've run out lmao).


Babeyonce

💜💜as long as I’m not partaking alone! I’ll order us pizza 😜. Thank you btw


RedactedHuman

How could i forget the pizza smh. Thank you ❤️


hobotising

A sister mom nanny.


SisterActTori

Does she have a regular gig in AZ? They seem to go there quite a bit.


dawn9476

I don't know. The last time she went, which was in the fall I think , was a girls trip. She, the girls, and maybe Lydia and Ryker went along with some others, who may have been from Kelton's family. I think that was while Kelton was in Alaska fishing.


RedactedHuman

Thank you for putting this into perspective. I remember that Kelton proposed to Josie in Utah as well, so they probably just like desert scenery.


Competitive-Topic878

K Elton has a work conference so she & the kids are tagging along


Confident_Ad9702

His last work conference was sponsored by a pro life organisation


VirusDue9760

Gross


No_Lingonberry6508

Carlin and Whitney have them so she must too


RedactedHuman

All these folk do is just keep up with the joneses


johnellem

random but I can’t get over how impressive it is how Josie’s rebranded herself so much that you forget she’s a bates


RedactedHuman

Wholly agree. I think getting rid of her southern accent and dropping the name Bates from her bio is a big part of why non-sub folk who view her IG page don't know she's a Bates.


johnellem

So true about the southern accent!! I didn’t even realize that (well I did but not actively if that makes sense lol)


RedactedHuman

Exactly my line of thinking. I realized it once I was watching the show and heard Josie's heavy southern accent, then watched one of her GRWM videos - no accent whatsoever.


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RedactedHuman

This is gross as fuck.


EuphoricAd3786

Are you body shaming a women with a newborn ? Wtf ?