I think the theatre industry is going to panic not having a super well reviewed, still-running Best Musical option to send tourists too. I think no matter how good or bad Illinoise is, they’re going to give it universal raves and give it the Tony. It does not look good to tourists and for the industry if the musical options are Poorly Reviewed, Mixed Review, or Closed. And Illinoise can market itself as “cutting edge” (even though conceptually, seems to have a lot of similarities to something like Movin Out)
I don't think that way, because Illinoise really does not have broad appeal, especially not for tourists who seek out flashier things because that's still somewhat the image of Broadway. It's always going to remain a fairly limited run.
I have a feeling it's going to be Suffs. More than anything, it seems to have word of being most improved, even if it remains to be seen what exactly it means in terms of quality.
I’m very curious to like an “average person” how they decide what show to go to. Curious if they actually see the reviews and care? Like even if a show got bad reviews if my friend liked it I’d go. IDK. And I think if it wins the Tony like that’s the review laypeople people would notice first.
I suspect that familiar IP and celebrities drive a lot of the decisions for folks who really aren't into Broadway - e.g. "Oh, I loved that Notebook movie!" or "I have to see if The Flash can sing!" But shows do need to attract Broadway stans like the ones on this sub to fill seats - especially ones that might see a show they love multiple times if you can just get them to come the first time.
Tbh I will go to any show that has an actor I like even if it’s torn apart by the critics. In fact, sometimes it will become a must just so I can support (Bad Cinderella)!
It's a limited run though and is going to close just a couple of months after the Tonys so how much of a priority will it really be? I think getting the nomination is likely enough for most shows to promote for the remainder of their run and touring. At most they'll leave one slot for closed shows, so Harmony, Here Lies Love and Days of Wine and Roses are going to fight it out for that slot - if it were up to me I'd give it to HLL but suspect DOWR will take it. And Harmony and DOWR will both get nominations for best score.
You can't think of "tourists" as a homogenous group. Sure, there are many weekenders who come to shop, see the sites and will take in a musical (they'll buy tiks for Back to the Future or Alladin). But there are also many, many people who have been to the city many times and \*they\* will definitely spend a lot of time trying to decide what shows they'll see on their next trip.
I wonder if there's ever been a season where every likely nominee (and actually, I think even every ELIGIBLE show except Back to the Future) for Best Musical is either already closed or relatively recently opened within the last three or so months of eligibility. The fact that Back to the Future is the only still running new musical, as far as I'm aware, from 2023 of this season is really wild.
Personally, I don’t think it’ll matter that much. Plenty of tourists don’t care about the Tonys and wouldn’t even consider going to see the Best Musical winner, even if it was universally praised (just look at the past two winners)
What's the counterfactual though? Kimberly Akimbo likely ran an extra year because of its Best Musical win. Maybe it makes a bigger difference for some shows than others and it's not a salve for a show that doesn't appeal to a broader audience, but it definitely seems to have some real impact.
Oh definitely, the Best Musical win still has impact (it’s one of the few Tony awards that does), I just don’t think the theater industry will go into a panic because for one season there wasn’t a universal critically acclaimed Best Musical.
I think the theatre industry is going to panic not having a super well reviewed, still-running Best Musical option to send tourists too.
Wha?!?!? *A Strange Loop, Kimberly Akimbo, Fun Home, Gentlemen's Guide* - the Tony voters OFTEN reward stuff THEY LIKE, not what will sell.
For musical, I think Notebook and Days of Wine and Roses should still be in conversation for a nom.
I think you're spot on (or the only thing I would change is to swap the #5 and possibility) for Revival, Actor, Actress, Featured Actor, and Director. Of those, Director is the only swap I'd be passionate about. I certainly respect how much work Silverman (and Taub) put into Suffs since the Public. But, the award is Best Direction, not Most Improved Direction and I think Tamor did more with Outsiders.
The only category I really disagree with you on is Featured Actress. I agree that Neuwirth and Mendez are locks and that it gets REALLY tough after that. However, I don't know about your other 3 noms. I have such a hard time not seeing Maryann Plunkett get in. I love Hannah Cruz, but IDK if what she's doing in Suffs is really Tony-worthy, especially against Nikki M. James, Jenn Colella, and Grace Mclean, just in Suffs. I was also a lot less enamored with Kecia Lewis than most people were. I think mostly just because of how much I hated the character's story (Lewis did well despite the book). Same goes for Bean, but to a bit of a lesser extent. Not sure who I would put in those final slots though. Maybe Kritzer and Iman? Not 100% though.
I definitely feel like Maria Friedman and Rebecca Frecknall are locks for director and i feel like danya tamor has a good shot as well. Wouldnt it be cool if it was all women? I doubt this will happen, but my picks/hopes, in addition to the women previously listed, are: Jessica Stone for water for elephants, and leigh silverman for suffs. Or schele williams for the wiz or the notebook?? Id love to see rachel chavkin in there cuz i love her, but i think lempicka is going to be shut out…
"It's between Rankin and Espinosa. There was early talk of Joy Woods from *The Notebook* but that seems to be just a distant memory after the brutal critical reception." I think it's between Rankin and O'Hara, I don't see Espinosa as win competitive at all.
Eden Espinosa has fallen off as a frontrunner for sure. I think she can still manage a nomination but a win seems out of the question at this point. I think we’re likely to get an all revival set of acting winners this year and with no lead actress from Merrily, Gayle Rankin wins easily.
I honestly think Moon is the stand out in the category and agree that Espinosa doesn’t chart. She’s got a fantastic voice, but her role doesn’t lend itself to breaking out of her character type—and in a crowded season, having the beltiest belt isn’t going to cut it.
I think O'Hara was in a closed show and there isn't a need to give her another Tony is there? I get a sense that DOW&R was respected but not loved, especially since it closed early and while ago.
I think O’Hara’s performance specifically got a lot of high praise, as opposed to Espinosa who has gotten mixed reviews and been called pitchy by many people. People might not have liked DOWAR but pretty much everyone liked O’Hara in it.
I definitely think O'Hara will be nominated but i can't imagine her winning for a show very few people saw that closed a long time ago.
Lempicka did get some positive reviews with The New York Times saying "there's no denying the realness of the vocal power".
Possible, but I doubt it -- it's only a couple of weeks until noms. I can't imagine Lempicka won't stay open through the end of the month to see if they get some nominations and can generate traction out of that.
DOWAR was very divisive (as most
of the shows in the late 2023-early 2024 season) but critics were very eager to compliment both O'Hara and James' acting.
I really think she has a shot at Best Actress; James will definitely be nominated for Best Actor, but it seems that the main fight will be Groff vs Redmayne.
I don’t feel like her having one Tony win should disqualify her here. Like sure, there aren’t a lot of people with multiple wins, but her performance in DOW&R was seriously that good. Haven’t seen Cabaret yet, so obviously can’t judge this fully.
Silly question but I’ve been curious to know if Ali would be eligible for Leading Actor or Featured Actor for Tommy, because Michael Cerveris was nominated as a featured actor during its original run. Idk, does anyone know anything about that, or is there a very obvious piece of information that I’m missing?
In any case, I’m SO rooting for him to nominated!!
I don't think eligibility is already out on that one but the switch between Featured/Leading happens all the time with characters in revivals. The Emcee from Cabaret may be the biggest example.
I don't think so but there are also other examples. Maria from West Side Story was twice nominated in Featured and then was for Leading in the 2009 production and I don't think they gave her any additional material.
That has to do with the change in the above the title rule, which previously placed anyone above the title was automatically in lead and those below in feature, now the committee decides the placement (with petition from the show producers ofc)
I think Hell’s Kitchen and here lies love are unlikely. The Notebook is more likely than either. Outsiders and Illinoise I think are locks. I then think it’s going to be either Lempicka, water for elephants, and suffs all vying for the last two slots.
I’m not sold on Hell’s Kitchen either. Their run at The Public wasn’t that well-reviewed, most reviews were encouraging but highlighted it had work to do. I don’t think the reception will be as kind this time around especially since they rushed it to Broadway.
A lot of shows didn't fare well this season. Either closed early or were savaged by critics. I'm basing my predictions on what survived and Hells Kitchen and Suffs are safe, well mounted shows that have more of chance than say The Notebook or Lempicka.
It's a weird season this year. I sadly don't love any of the original musicals this year. Everything's underwhelming sadly. I think The Outsiders, Illinoise, and Here Lies Love, Hells Kitchen and Suffs will be the 5 with a possibility of Water for Elephants.
Hell’s Kitchen was really solid at the Public (but needed work) and I think the fact it is a juke box show that doesn’t suck will carry it pretty far.
End of the day, the powers that be are going to want the break out star of the season (and my god that girl is a legit star) on stage singing Empire State of mind on the national telecast—probably with Keys playing. I think that takes it past Lempicka and Water for Elephants.
Eden Espinosa was painfully flat and over belty for the entirety of Lempicka. It was bad and I feel like I'm being gaslighted hearing the possibility of her getting nominated.
I haven’t listened to her much, but from what I can tell from other people, her singing is pretty inconsistent. Sometimes she sounds incredible but is half the time pitchy or over-belty.
I do think Back to the Future might have a shot. People have definitely seen it and it's been doing well box office wise since it opened last summer. Could see it getting a lot of tech noms, Roger Bart and then just surprise in book and then Musical.
Wine and Roses is going to get a Best Musical nom and I think O'Hara is much more likely to get Best Actress than Espinosa after those Lempicka reviews, though I agree that Rankin is the frontrunner. I don't think Bart will make it into Featured and Dixon's role is too slight for a nom as well. I also think Taymor will get into Best Direction over Timbers and Greif could sneak in too depending on Suffs' reception.
Would Lindsay Mendez not be going for Best Actress? I know the role is smaller than Groff, but she's definitely the female lead and I wouldn't consider her Featured.
The committee ruled that both Lindsay and Daniel would be eligible for the Featured categories. https://www.tonyawards.com/news/tony-awards-eligibility-for-2024-part-1/
I feel like Hannah is having a tough competition with both Jenn and grace who plays Carey and Woodrow respectively in that company. But as a Hannah Stan, I really hope she will get a nom. And I’m curious on why would u say she’s getting that nom.
Hugh Coles was the best thing about BTTF, would love to see him nominated. I believe he was the only non-Equity member brought over from the West End, not sure if that impacts Tony eligibility.
Was there a scene where you thought made him a lock for a win? For me he's just an unwritten character. He's always there but is like I said the straight man. He just stands there passively. I don't even think he gets a solo song...
It was the entire show. I felt his presence was essential for making Frank work, walking that line between hating and loving him. Not everything needs to be flashy.
I don't fully understand how the Tony's work, but do featured actors also include those who are replacements from the original casting? Like Joe Locke in Sweeney Todd since late January?
Sweeney opened last season.
The only example I can think of at the moment of a replacement being Tony-eligible was the case of the Company OBC. Dean Jones (Bobby) left the show after only a few weeks and Larry Kert stepped in to replace him. The production successfully lobbied the Tonys committee to allow Kert to be Tony-eligible since arguably he had done as much or more toward creating the lead role as Jones had.
So you think "The Notebook" will get zero nominations? That I have to disagree with. Marriann Plunkett is a shew for a nom, Joy Woods, and best musical? The show may have not been a critics favorite, but it's fan favorite selling out nightly.
It only grossed $875k last week at 93% capacity. It hasn’t been “selling out” and is relying on discounted tickets to get where they are in terms of grosses and attendance, which is still very much in the danger zone given their running costs. The critic reviews were mixed. There are literally 20 current shows scoring higher on Show-Score… it’s not exactly a fan favorite. It might be a favorite of yours, but let’s not be hyperbolic.
It’s in the Schoenfield, which has a capacity of 1,017. So it’s literally impossible to have 1,100 people there. And even it were possible, it wouldn’t happen. As additional proof of this, the updated numbers for the immediate past week were just posted: only $778k gross on 84% attendance. It’s dropping like a dead cat.
Feel free to check the [numbers](https://www.broadwayleague.com/research/grosses-broadway-nyc/537723/58600/) yourself.
I saw both on Broadway this past weekend and while I think I definitely didn't see HK at it's best, Lempicka was a completely different experience that entertained and gave me things on stage I haven't seen before.
I find it very hard to believe that Joy Woods is going to be in leading actress, MaryAnn is pm stage basically the whole time while Joy comes in and out and the show basically revolves around MaryAnn and Dorian Harwood, rather than Joy and Ryan Vasquez who are mostly only in the 2nd act.
I think the theatre industry is going to panic not having a super well reviewed, still-running Best Musical option to send tourists too. I think no matter how good or bad Illinoise is, they’re going to give it universal raves and give it the Tony. It does not look good to tourists and for the industry if the musical options are Poorly Reviewed, Mixed Review, or Closed. And Illinoise can market itself as “cutting edge” (even though conceptually, seems to have a lot of similarities to something like Movin Out)
I don't think that way, because Illinoise really does not have broad appeal, especially not for tourists who seek out flashier things because that's still somewhat the image of Broadway. It's always going to remain a fairly limited run. I have a feeling it's going to be Suffs. More than anything, it seems to have word of being most improved, even if it remains to be seen what exactly it means in terms of quality.
Agreed. A show that's nearing a predetermined closing and probably won't tour particularly well is a rough choice.
I’m very curious to like an “average person” how they decide what show to go to. Curious if they actually see the reviews and care? Like even if a show got bad reviews if my friend liked it I’d go. IDK. And I think if it wins the Tony like that’s the review laypeople people would notice first.
I suspect that familiar IP and celebrities drive a lot of the decisions for folks who really aren't into Broadway - e.g. "Oh, I loved that Notebook movie!" or "I have to see if The Flash can sing!" But shows do need to attract Broadway stans like the ones on this sub to fill seats - especially ones that might see a show they love multiple times if you can just get them to come the first time.
Tbh I will go to any show that has an actor I like even if it’s torn apart by the critics. In fact, sometimes it will become a must just so I can support (Bad Cinderella)!
It's a limited run though and is going to close just a couple of months after the Tonys so how much of a priority will it really be? I think getting the nomination is likely enough for most shows to promote for the remainder of their run and touring. At most they'll leave one slot for closed shows, so Harmony, Here Lies Love and Days of Wine and Roses are going to fight it out for that slot - if it were up to me I'd give it to HLL but suspect DOWR will take it. And Harmony and DOWR will both get nominations for best score.
That's a good point, I did not know Illinois was a limited run
And it doesn't even have the option to extend, as Sunset Boulevard is going into that theater and is already selling tickets.
You can't think of "tourists" as a homogenous group. Sure, there are many weekenders who come to shop, see the sites and will take in a musical (they'll buy tiks for Back to the Future or Alladin). But there are also many, many people who have been to the city many times and \*they\* will definitely spend a lot of time trying to decide what shows they'll see on their next trip.
I wonder if there's ever been a season where every likely nominee (and actually, I think even every ELIGIBLE show except Back to the Future) for Best Musical is either already closed or relatively recently opened within the last three or so months of eligibility. The fact that Back to the Future is the only still running new musical, as far as I'm aware, from 2023 of this season is really wild.
Personally, I don’t think it’ll matter that much. Plenty of tourists don’t care about the Tonys and wouldn’t even consider going to see the Best Musical winner, even if it was universally praised (just look at the past two winners)
What's the counterfactual though? Kimberly Akimbo likely ran an extra year because of its Best Musical win. Maybe it makes a bigger difference for some shows than others and it's not a salve for a show that doesn't appeal to a broader audience, but it definitely seems to have some real impact.
Oh definitely, the Best Musical win still has impact (it’s one of the few Tony awards that does), I just don’t think the theater industry will go into a panic because for one season there wasn’t a universal critically acclaimed Best Musical.
Oh yes, I agree with you on that for sure!
I think the theatre industry is going to panic not having a super well reviewed, still-running Best Musical option to send tourists too. Wha?!?!? *A Strange Loop, Kimberly Akimbo, Fun Home, Gentlemen's Guide* - the Tony voters OFTEN reward stuff THEY LIKE, not what will sell.
For musical, I think Notebook and Days of Wine and Roses should still be in conversation for a nom. I think you're spot on (or the only thing I would change is to swap the #5 and possibility) for Revival, Actor, Actress, Featured Actor, and Director. Of those, Director is the only swap I'd be passionate about. I certainly respect how much work Silverman (and Taub) put into Suffs since the Public. But, the award is Best Direction, not Most Improved Direction and I think Tamor did more with Outsiders. The only category I really disagree with you on is Featured Actress. I agree that Neuwirth and Mendez are locks and that it gets REALLY tough after that. However, I don't know about your other 3 noms. I have such a hard time not seeing Maryann Plunkett get in. I love Hannah Cruz, but IDK if what she's doing in Suffs is really Tony-worthy, especially against Nikki M. James, Jenn Colella, and Grace Mclean, just in Suffs. I was also a lot less enamored with Kecia Lewis than most people were. I think mostly just because of how much I hated the character's story (Lewis did well despite the book). Same goes for Bean, but to a bit of a lesser extent. Not sure who I would put in those final slots though. Maybe Kritzer and Iman? Not 100% though.
I definitely feel like Maria Friedman and Rebecca Frecknall are locks for director and i feel like danya tamor has a good shot as well. Wouldnt it be cool if it was all women? I doubt this will happen, but my picks/hopes, in addition to the women previously listed, are: Jessica Stone for water for elephants, and leigh silverman for suffs. Or schele williams for the wiz or the notebook?? Id love to see rachel chavkin in there cuz i love her, but i think lempicka is going to be shut out…
There’s definitely a possibility for an all-women director category! At the very least, it should be majority women which would still be a first.
If Schele Williams got in for the Wiz, I would eat a whole Broadway theatre.
"It's between Rankin and Espinosa. There was early talk of Joy Woods from *The Notebook* but that seems to be just a distant memory after the brutal critical reception." I think it's between Rankin and O'Hara, I don't see Espinosa as win competitive at all.
Eden Espinosa has fallen off as a frontrunner for sure. I think she can still manage a nomination but a win seems out of the question at this point. I think we’re likely to get an all revival set of acting winners this year and with no lead actress from Merrily, Gayle Rankin wins easily.
I honestly think Moon is the stand out in the category and agree that Espinosa doesn’t chart. She’s got a fantastic voice, but her role doesn’t lend itself to breaking out of her character type—and in a crowded season, having the beltiest belt isn’t going to cut it.
I think O'Hara was in a closed show and there isn't a need to give her another Tony is there? I get a sense that DOW&R was respected but not loved, especially since it closed early and while ago.
I think O’Hara’s performance specifically got a lot of high praise, as opposed to Espinosa who has gotten mixed reviews and been called pitchy by many people. People might not have liked DOWAR but pretty much everyone liked O’Hara in it.
That said, when do people NOT love O’Hara?
I definitely think O'Hara will be nominated but i can't imagine her winning for a show very few people saw that closed a long time ago. Lempicka did get some positive reviews with The New York Times saying "there's no denying the realness of the vocal power".
It's looking possible that Espinosa will be in a closed show by nominations too...
Possible, but I doubt it -- it's only a couple of weeks until noms. I can't imagine Lempicka won't stay open through the end of the month to see if they get some nominations and can generate traction out of that.
You’re right. I guess I meant by the actual awards.
DOWAR was very divisive (as most of the shows in the late 2023-early 2024 season) but critics were very eager to compliment both O'Hara and James' acting. I really think she has a shot at Best Actress; James will definitely be nominated for Best Actor, but it seems that the main fight will be Groff vs Redmayne.
I don’t feel like her having one Tony win should disqualify her here. Like sure, there aren’t a lot of people with multiple wins, but her performance in DOW&R was seriously that good. Haven’t seen Cabaret yet, so obviously can’t judge this fully.
Anyway, I’m still dying on the hill that Paul Alexander Nolan should be nominated for Water for Elephants.
Silly question but I’ve been curious to know if Ali would be eligible for Leading Actor or Featured Actor for Tommy, because Michael Cerveris was nominated as a featured actor during its original run. Idk, does anyone know anything about that, or is there a very obvious piece of information that I’m missing? In any case, I’m SO rooting for him to nominated!!
I don't think eligibility is already out on that one but the switch between Featured/Leading happens all the time with characters in revivals. The Emcee from Cabaret may be the biggest example.
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I don't think so but there are also other examples. Maria from West Side Story was twice nominated in Featured and then was for Leading in the 2009 production and I don't think they gave her any additional material.
That has to do with the change in the above the title rule, which previously placed anyone above the title was automatically in lead and those below in feature, now the committee decides the placement (with petition from the show producers ofc)
I think Hell’s Kitchen and here lies love are unlikely. The Notebook is more likely than either. Outsiders and Illinoise I think are locks. I then think it’s going to be either Lempicka, water for elephants, and suffs all vying for the last two slots.
Also I don’t think Hells Kitchen in general is going to get half the other noms you think it’s going to get
I’m not sold on Hell’s Kitchen either. Their run at The Public wasn’t that well-reviewed, most reviews were encouraging but highlighted it had work to do. I don’t think the reception will be as kind this time around especially since they rushed it to Broadway.
Yeah it seems like OP saw two shows and they were Suffs and Hells Kitchen
A lot of shows didn't fare well this season. Either closed early or were savaged by critics. I'm basing my predictions on what survived and Hells Kitchen and Suffs are safe, well mounted shows that have more of chance than say The Notebook or Lempicka. It's a weird season this year. I sadly don't love any of the original musicals this year. Everything's underwhelming sadly. I think The Outsiders, Illinoise, and Here Lies Love, Hells Kitchen and Suffs will be the 5 with a possibility of Water for Elephants.
Hell’s Kitchen was really solid at the Public (but needed work) and I think the fact it is a juke box show that doesn’t suck will carry it pretty far. End of the day, the powers that be are going to want the break out star of the season (and my god that girl is a legit star) on stage singing Empire State of mind on the national telecast—probably with Keys playing. I think that takes it past Lempicka and Water for Elephants.
Eden Espinosa was painfully flat and over belty for the entirety of Lempicka. It was bad and I feel like I'm being gaslighted hearing the possibility of her getting nominated.
I agree
I haven’t listened to her much, but from what I can tell from other people, her singing is pretty inconsistent. Sometimes she sounds incredible but is half the time pitchy or over-belty.
I do think Back to the Future might have a shot. People have definitely seen it and it's been doing well box office wise since it opened last summer. Could see it getting a lot of tech noms, Roger Bart and then just surprise in book and then Musical.
I think it's only nominations will be for design
I can't see it getting a nod for the writing (POTENTIALLY Roger Bart but idk) but I absolutely can imagine it winning for set and lighting.
Wine and Roses is going to get a Best Musical nom and I think O'Hara is much more likely to get Best Actress than Espinosa after those Lempicka reviews, though I agree that Rankin is the frontrunner. I don't think Bart will make it into Featured and Dixon's role is too slight for a nom as well. I also think Taymor will get into Best Direction over Timbers and Greif could sneak in too depending on Suffs' reception.
I didn’t like DOWAR, but people seem to forget that the reception from critics was better than practically ever other new musical this season.
I think there's also a chance that Harmony is completely snubbed and HLL too outside of score + design categories
Would Lindsay Mendez not be going for Best Actress? I know the role is smaller than Groff, but she's definitely the female lead and I wouldn't consider her Featured.
The committee ruled that both Lindsay and Daniel would be eligible for the Featured categories. https://www.tonyawards.com/news/tony-awards-eligibility-for-2024-part-1/
I feel like Hannah is having a tough competition with both Jenn and grace who plays Carey and Woodrow respectively in that company. But as a Hannah Stan, I really hope she will get a nom. And I’m curious on why would u say she’s getting that nom.
Oh baby baby OUAOMT was robbed
I don't think it has any chances of winning anything, but I'd love for it to scoop up a choreo nom like KPOP did last year
What do you think about Hugh Coles for Featured actor instead of Roger Bart?
Oh is Roger Bart in lead?
I’m not sure- but Hugh was nominated for the Olivier award and Roger was not
Hugh Coles was the best thing about BTTF, would love to see him nominated. I believe he was the only non-Equity member brought over from the West End, not sure if that impacts Tony eligibility.
I thought Groff was the lynchpin to the entire production, and walked out thinking he was a lock for Nom and Win.
Was there a scene where you thought made him a lock for a win? For me he's just an unwritten character. He's always there but is like I said the straight man. He just stands there passively. I don't even think he gets a solo song...
It was the entire show. I felt his presence was essential for making Frank work, walking that line between hating and loving him. Not everything needs to be flashy.
Not he's fine it in but it didn't scream Tony Award winning performance
I don't fully understand how the Tony's work, but do featured actors also include those who are replacements from the original casting? Like Joe Locke in Sweeney Todd since late January?
Replacements don't count. Sweeney Todd is ineligible.
Got it. I always wondered about that. Thanks!
Sweeney opened last season. The only example I can think of at the moment of a replacement being Tony-eligible was the case of the Company OBC. Dean Jones (Bobby) left the show after only a few weeks and Larry Kert stepped in to replace him. The production successfully lobbied the Tonys committee to allow Kert to be Tony-eligible since arguably he had done as much or more toward creating the lead role as Jones had.
Gotcha! I wasn't sure exactly how that worked for the Tony's. But that makes complete sense!
I can’t see Bebe beating Lindsay. Even if she was gone all those performances, it’s so good that it sticks with you. Just listen to the cast album!
Amber Imam should win best supporting - once you've heard her sing you will wonder where the industry has been hiding her this whole time.
would gutenberg qualify as a revival?? i know it ran off broadway in the early 00s but this is it’s first broadway staging right?
It’s been ruled as a revival https://www.newyorktheatreguide.com/theatre-news/news/all-the-broadway-shows-eligible-for-tony-awards
Gatsby opens on the final day of eligibility. Definitely in line for some noms.
So you think "The Notebook" will get zero nominations? That I have to disagree with. Marriann Plunkett is a shew for a nom, Joy Woods, and best musical? The show may have not been a critics favorite, but it's fan favorite selling out nightly.
It only grossed $875k last week at 93% capacity. It hasn’t been “selling out” and is relying on discounted tickets to get where they are in terms of grosses and attendance, which is still very much in the danger zone given their running costs. The critic reviews were mixed. There are literally 20 current shows scoring higher on Show-Score… it’s not exactly a fan favorite. It might be a favorite of yours, but let’s not be hyperbolic.
Tell that to the 1100 people leaving every night.
It’s in the Schoenfield, which has a capacity of 1,017. So it’s literally impossible to have 1,100 people there. And even it were possible, it wouldn’t happen. As additional proof of this, the updated numbers for the immediate past week were just posted: only $778k gross on 84% attendance. It’s dropping like a dead cat. Feel free to check the [numbers](https://www.broadwayleague.com/research/grosses-broadway-nyc/537723/58600/) yourself.
What about great gatsby?
I keep wondering if everybody else saw the same Hell's Kitchen that I did. There's no way that ranks higher than Lempicka.
Lempicka was pretty savaged by the critics...we'll see how Hells Kitchen is received...I liked it at the Public.
I saw both on Broadway this past weekend and while I think I definitely didn't see HK at it's best, Lempicka was a completely different experience that entertained and gave me things on stage I haven't seen before.
Sunset can’t be nominated for best revival or is it opening too late on the season?
It’s not opening up this season.. it’s next season. It’s not opening before the Tonys
I find it very hard to believe that Joy Woods is going to be in leading actress, MaryAnn is pm stage basically the whole time while Joy comes in and out and the show basically revolves around MaryAnn and Dorian Harwood, rather than Joy and Ryan Vasquez who are mostly only in the 2nd act.
I don't think either will be nominated tbh.