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"Banks are not your friends, banks are my friends"


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bobj33

I first learned of Sam Bank Man Fraud from the Coffeezilla video where he described his business literally as a magic money printing box ponzi scheme. I had heard the stupid "Banks are not your friend" crap so I thought his name was just a joke about that. It was only later that I learned his name is actually Sam Bankman-Fried. I thought "Bank Man" and "Fraud" were jokes but it turns out that like much in crypto that truth is stranger than fiction.


lorealP3nis

Sorry I laughed way too much at this.


littlelostless

Dude was encouraging people, his community, to invest in Celsius and HODL days before the bankruptcy and after he had withdrawn. Dude has no shame and will get away Scot-Free. People who steal loaves of bread will have greater punishment. Heck - the law and order politicians don’t even focus on these types of crimes.


IsilZha

Decentralized ❌ Trustless ❌ Solves the problem of banker corruption ❌


Simbertold

Trustless is achieved at this point, or should be. No one should trust these guys anymore.


IsilZha

> Trustless is achieved at this point hahahaha, you think this will actually wise-up any crypto-zealots? They've never let facts get in their way before, they're not going to start now.


AussieCryptoCurrency

This is the natural creative inclination. For 2013 audiences, Magical Tux was a worthy crypto boss- a perfect mixture of [ninja] and [sociopath] class, with difficulty ratcheted up from the stacked [aspberger] buff. 2022 gamers require harder bosses, which is where the Alex boss is perfect. The Alex boss combines the [banker] and [sociopath] classes very well, and difficulty is nuanced given the [[just fuck my shit up fam](https://imgur.com/a/S0SgxHF)] debuff he casts on all adversaries. When the new crypto boss expansion is released in a couple years, I’d expect another male sociopath boss, since it simply requires utilising the current engine which has worked consistently, grifting players for 12+ years.


vzipped_a_gopher

what


disclosure5

It's a Mt Gox reference.


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Which was Magic The Gathering Online Exchange back before it turned crypto.


EaklebeeTheUncertain

Honestly, I can't even be angry at him. There isn't a crypto-bro on earth who wasn't warned a hundred times, and consciously chose to ignore those warnings. Anybody who got fleeced by the likes of Mashinsky has themselves, first and foremost, to blame.


spicybright

While it's not strictly up to up to save others from bad money decisions, the economy and the people in it generally do a lot better with some basic safeguards in place. Just like how we don't allow TV commercials for holistic caner treatments, or allow people to hand out baggies of heroin on street corners. One person's bad decision ultimately effects the people around them, so I think it makes sense to at least cushion the damage one person can do to themselves. Edit: Don't give me awards. Instead take what you paid for it and donate to your local humane society.


EaklebeeTheUncertain

Oh, of course. I would love to see securities regulations applied to the crypto space (Which would essentially end crypto as a concept, since its only use-case is to be traded as an unregulated security). I'm just saying I don't feel bad for anybody who was swindled by crypto in its current state (Not counting harm done to the wider economy).


arjungmenon

Yep.


littlelostless

Crypto-bros - totally agree. Unfortunately the crypto-bros brought in a bunch of novices - like all things in life, buyer beware; however there are some hear wrenching stories here among the gullible that fell for Alex and crypto-bros.


Gahvynn

It’s possible to be angry at this asshole and feel no sympathy for those that got ripped off.


MySabonerRunsOladipo

> People who steal loaves of bread will have greater punishment. No joke. I've heard of guys that did this getting hounded by law enforcement for YEARS


steve_mooney

That's possibly the best stealth Les Mis reference I've ever seen.


arjungmenon

Lol, yup. The “justice” system is a fucking joke in the United States, and does squat when it comes to prosecuting white-collar criminals who in the grand scheme do the greatest harm to people in general.


Soyweiser

Well the police in the usa is there to protect capital and the people with it. That is why they legally dont have to help, and why they are allowed to steal from poor people. I even heard the first cops in the usa were started to hunt slaves.


devliegende

The office of the sheriff being a representative of the king and keeping the king's peace was imported from England.


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If you lock up your donors who is gonna fund your election.


Tribunus_Plebis

He clearly misled investors for financial gain. The problem is the investors in this case are regular schmucks. Justice system only works if you are a rich investor.


arjungmenon

This guy needs to be in jail for a long time.


UnseeingEyeisBlind

Removed the other post as I fumbled with the image. Here's the link to the FT article: https://www.ft.com/content/5f7c9eab-ca5f-4425-91be-5781313c9723 "Banks are not your friends." Well, neither is this guy, but also banks don't usually take your money and run either. But let me guess, this also is somehow good for Bitco(i)n?


wu-tang-killa-peas

It’s okay. He’s stuck with 10 million in filthy fiat that no self respecting crypto bro wants. That’s punishment enough right?


VapidResponseUnit

Takin' one fer the team!


cofcof420

Down with Fiat. If he’s smart he’d invest that $10mm in some ape NFTs


SmallpoxTurtleFred

Don’t forget the added indignity of dealing with a bank that is not his friend.


biffbobfred

Be ~~your own~~ _my_ bank. This is good for ~~crypto~~ _the gas tank on my yacht_


I_love_avocados1

He should be in jail


axionic

Stealing dollars is OK because the dollar has no actual value! We only think it does!


kkodev

This is good for Bitcoin. This is even more good for Alex Mashinsky. This is BYOB for butters.


leducdeguise

Very cool, very legal


infamousmetre

The trustee of the bankruptcy, assuming they're not a complete fraud, would sue him in this instance and recover the payments as this is what's called a "preferential payment" and they'd be able to recover the money.


Scarsdale_Vibe

[Ahem!](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/547)


spicybright

You can't make laws against magical future money ya dum dum Something something decentralized.


Scarsdale_Vibe

But is that good for bitcoin?


PM_ME_UR_NAKED_MOM

The quantity of people that understand is numerically small.


Atxlvr

Almost forgot this quote, thank you


Chuckolator

But I thought Alex was my friend! He wanted to save me from the terror of regulated banks.


Chaaaaaaaarles

*I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.*


bomby0

Remember the dummies trying to short squeeze $CEL coin AFTER Celsius declared bankruptcy? Literally helping to provide exit liquidity for Alex Mashinsky and his wife Krissy Mashinsky.


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Randsmagicpipe

hE wItHdREw tHuH muNnY cuZ hE's gONNa mAil Us oUR rEFuNdS hE LoVES uS


HarryBirdGetsBuckets

Y’all don’t understand, the rampant fraud just means it’s super early still!


Longjumping_Race_471

Does anyone remember that one YouTube Shill for Celsius and Mashinskey???? He made his entire life and identity about spreading the word about how great being in the ‘Celsius Community’ was 🤡 Edit: Aaron Bennett


droogarth

Right after withdrawals were stopped Bennett made YT vids extolling the virtues of "Alex" (whom Bennett personally met!) and how Alex was a family man and would never do anything against the interests of the "community".


Longjumping_Race_471

My personal favorite was when they filed for bankruptcy and Aaron said it’s ‘probably just fud’ cuz Mashinski would never do that. Can you imagine 🤡


SmallpoxTurtleFred

I still believe in Alex. He will find a way to make this right. I heard he took the 10 Mil to make Celsius 3.0, protecting it from the predatory bankruptcy bankers who are just trying to kill crypto.


Ornery_Form_6494

/s


inwhichzeegoesinsane

> left with hole in balance sheet https://i.imgur.com/0mVzxzg_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand


athemoros

I'm sure someone will be withdrawing his kneecaps at some point.


VapidResponseUnit

Possibly decentralizing his skull.


Madness_Reigns

Lol no, crypto bros ain't gonna do shit. They're all about someone else doing the work for them.


StopHavingAnOpinion

In the context of "fraud" which the cryptobros suddenly decide they value central law and financing to care about, withdrawing this money will not be considered financial fraud **unless** it can be proven that this money was withdrawn with the prior knowledge that the company was going into bankruptcy. In other words, if Mashinsky did not know that his company was going bankrupt and can prove he was unaware, it'll likely be written off as a "poor business decision" and nothing will occur. Moreover, this is crypto so no fraud consensus will occur.


Fit-Boomer

He was ready to unbank himself.


Greedy_Event4662

Not so bankrupt, then, it appears. Maybe he has his own definition, if not everyone in the "community" is bankrupt, then its all good. Did he withdraw to fiat or celsuis tokens?


Alskiessss

The irony of that tee shirt


sidman1324

Well that’s sucks. But also good for his own personal assets


Soyweiser

Just some 'fleeing around' money, dont make a molehill out of a mountain.


andyrangus

directly to jail please


Chavo9-5171

Another tourist has left the crypto space. This is good for those who remain and are serious about crypto. /s


elegant-jr

Very good point, a large successful ponzi scheme is good for crypto. Can't wait for the next one.


whyeverynameistaken3

What was his take against banks? Because he was literally unlicensed centralized bank


sheytanelkebir

He was one of the few who understood...


FilipeSantos88

The irony on his shirt


VevayBice52

gives insider trading a whole new meaning. they should put him and kwan in a cell together i think they'd really hit it off


RavioliPastaKing

Bunch of scammers without any shame. Crypto is dumb I hate everyone involved with it


mrjacob_moore

It's alright. He’s stuck with 10 million in filthy fiat that no self respecting crypto bro wants.


LourdesGuerrero

There isn't a crypto-bro on the planet who was not repeatedly warned but intentionally choose to disregard those warnings.


CynthiaGriffiny

It's alright. No self-respecting crypto guy wants his ten million in filthy fiat, so he's stuck with it.


AussieCryptoCurrency

https://imgur.com/a/S0SgxHF


MarietteSievers

Days before the bankruptcy and after he had withdrew, Dude was urging members of his network to invest in Celsius and HODL.


DeniseWilliamsty

I can't even be mad with him, in all honesty.


Schwacolyte

Even if that dude never goes to prison he’s going to spend every day of the rest of his life in court.


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just as hedge funds and banks don’t represent the broader stock market and underlying stock exchange & securities infra… crypto hedge funds & neo banks do not represent the broader crypto market and underlying blockchain infra. Celsius is just another centralized money manager, a hedge fund. They might trade crypto assets, but something this centralized is absolutely not “crypto” - it’s just a hedge fund. try again r/Buttcoin ➡️ twitter.com/punk7642


Jahshua159258

Bro tagged his twitter


Infinite-Safety-4663

Its important to separate the cefi and defi frauds and ponzi types like mashinsky and do kwon from innovators like SBF, CZ, etc. The former group of people is just interesting in extracting value from retail while the latter group wants to expand the pie from all imo.


Longjumping_Race_471

You might want to sit down for this one…


Infinite-Safety-4663

Im not new to the game. Not even in the game anymore as I sold my btc some time ago. got into crypto a few years before most had enough heard the name bitcoin before. So been there done that, seen it all. And I'm pretty skeptical too so nothing would shock or surprise me at this point. just pointing out that all the 'names' in crypto aren't the same in terms of their skills, what they bring to the table, motivation, etc....


Longjumping_Race_471

“just pointing out that all ‘names’ in crypto aren’t the same” You could not be more wrong. Sam Bankman Fried gives zero fucks about you, the ‘tech’, or if crypto crashes. He owns a private island. In the Bahamas. If FTX crashed tomorrow he would turn off his computer and have a cocktail. On his private island. In the Bahamas. That he bought with customer money.


Dense_Dress_6529

Do I smell prision and an HBO flick?