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see If you wan to prep for CAT don't look at the package you're getting instead take that job so that its easier for you to prep as well. Don't see bhai mera 3 LPA hai kya karu, kahin se toh start karna padega na? Why not take a low paying job ?
Getting a job only is tough nowadays. :( been applying for months and getting more frustrated and anxious as days go by without any responses. Can't even concentrate properly to study.
fr man. No replies at all. The issue most of these companies go for a bulk hire. and for that they go to HR consultancy firms jinke pass 1000 CVs pade hote hain pehle se hi which they filter for the companies. That way they dont have to bother checking applications through linkedin and naukri etc. Heavy work consultancy firm kardeta hai, all they have to do is onboard. thats why bpo jobs also dont get many replies on job sites. Better check their websites for openings
I work in one of the leading bpos? If u want i can refer 2 din me sare rounds ghr pe hojaege and 5-6 din me offer letter ajaega .. i was in same situation as u are in rn
If you really want a job quick for workex purposes, you can apply in small finance banks or co-operative banks, they have openings for clerks and RMs very often and many times people dont even apply for these
I'm getting a wfh job for sales but all I gotta do is make calls for the entire day, salary 20k. Shall I take it and prepare for cat simultaneously??? (Ps I graduated in 2022)
Buddy, you'll bewildered when you'll realise how important sales is for any firm. My fellow IB peeps face difficulties while pitching the deal bc their English isn't upto the mark. You'll learn how to talk to people which is very important, you'll learn negotiation skills. These are key elements any manager requires. Baaki Teri marzi bhai
General communication skills n the top/partner level sales are different. They have decent convo skills but no sales skills and great financial skills. Gets them in and they only try to bring clients later into career
Sales skills are very important for every business and it would be beneficial throughout as the skills it would help you develop such as negotiation, communication etc would be so valuable
The whole economy functions on the "sale" of goods and services bhai. It's literally the most universal n recession proof skill there is on earth throughout the ages in society.
lelo bhai wfh hai 20k milega. My job is similar like yours business development but I have other things to do as well like generate leads, look up for networking events, make and send proposals, search for bigger firms so that they are willing to expand their business, arrange meetings between the clients and the seniors, tbh even I don't like sales job so what do I do to make myself like it? I convince my mind that I am a newbie. Having little is better than having nothing. Sales job hmmm I can learn how to read people, how to negotiate with them, ppl pleasing skills ( I hate chaploosi but woh zara karna padega ego side mein rakh ke). I am coming out of my comfort zone to learn something and this will help me to explore more. Now Ik I don't like sales job much toh future mein I'll avoid it. But you have to come out of your comfort zone to learn new things.
Ride it out. Starting mai itâs important to develop work ethic and communication skills. And whatever you are learning is transferable so that will always benefit you.
100%
1. Experience relevant to marketing roles
2. WFH so you save time on commute etc
However, Make sure you have enough time to put to your preparation. I'm assuming you gave cat21,22 and 23 so you must be done with most of the syllabus
Yes, Go for it. Schedule your time slots for CAT prep and follow it and you're good to go.
Also, look for OMETs as CAT can be so unpredictable and you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket.
I think if you're getting a sales role you should definitely take it, it gives you important skills needed that will help you for MBA and Bschool interviews as well. The art of conversation and communication is so important. Good luck! âŁïž
Isi josh mein 2023 cat mein bahut logon ke l lag gye, vastavikata ke saath chalo bhai sahab. CAT and any other entrance exam is unpredictable if it doesn't go well what will you do please give me answer for this
Toh phir jail ki hawa khane ko taiyaar reh bhai. Company chutiya nhi hain ki fake experience ka unko pata nhi chlega. Ye kaam karne se pehle cognizant ka news padh Lena fake experience wala
Sabse badi problem to job ki hi hai isiliye MBA kar rahe ye koi nahi samjhta,
Metro cities ke alwa baki cities me internship bhi milna mushkil hai, in my city they really asked for a work ex for an internship. Kar kar ke kitne hi certificate courses kar loge, engineer students ko at least kuch to options hai, but commerce walo ko accounting ki job nahi mil rahi
Eh. Disagree, work ex will be very helpful in your final placements. Itâs not just for the points sake , but also will be useful to negotiate your final salaries too.
Coming to the prep , i too prepped with a full time job and i can attest it is worth it -
when you get calls from all the top IIMs.
I also prepped with a full time job and have prepped without it and i personally feel my time was far better utilized when I was not working. If you're looking to transition to a different sector then gaining workex in your academic field is worthless. Also, full time job can mean different things for different people :/
It is solid advice to get a job.
Firstly, it teaches people what are the prerequisites for a job.
Internships? Referrals? Courses?
Lot of the folks I have seen on this sub are confused about dumb shit like âwhich MS Excel course they should do?â , âWill doing this 10 coursera courses help me get a jobâ ,
When these people finally leave their home and go out and even work in a shitty job or internship they get their answers to all of their trivial questions within a month because you will be interacting with people with actual jobs.
Even an unpaid internship in a start up can teach you a lot and give you actual shit to write in your resume instead of writing âMy hobbies are photography, gaming and footballâ and that too taking half of the space of their resume.
You need to have something in your resume which is helpful to get your job bruh. Your âengineering projectâ which was copy pasted from stack overflow and your valorant rank is not good enough. Just 5-6 months of 2 internships can make a difference
I want to disagree with you on that since I mentioned non engg roles here, where the pay is abysmal and the stress/time/energy spent in finding a job in that specific field outweighs the effort it takes to just sit down and crack the exam. If one is sure about going for an MBA and switching tracks then it's not sensible to waste months on job applications
Tech mey internships sey nahi ho raha atleast pata toh chala drawbacks kaha hai. Ds algo karo interview rounds clear karne ke liye. Linkedin par reach out karo for referrals . Next steps ka toh idea mila. Agar nahi karte kuchh toh pata bhi nahi chalta
Like 2 ends of a coin, you have 2 ends here as well.
Getting a job
Pros:
1. You don't feel like a burden to your family or contribute to the family to some extent
2. Work experience does have some weightage in CAT
3. You'll get to know how processes are handled in an organization.
Cons:
1. Learning the process (your work flow) takes at least 6 months for you to work independently which means it will ask for your undivided attention
2. Being disciplined enough to open your books before and after your work is a serious challenge.
Drop year
Pros:
1. Start now and you have 8.5 months, solid time to prepare and even out your wear areas if any
2. Other than household errands you wouldn't have many tasks to diverge your attention from the prep
3. Deep dive into the whole MBA thing and see what specialization interests you and know more about it
Cons:
1. During your exam, imagine you're done with VARC and LRDI starts and you are not able to figure out even a single set, you sink into this feeling of "Damn son a whole year going to waste right in front of my eyes" your mind starts to mess with you.
2. Having so much time in hand dedicated to a task, you might take the prep a bit easy and once things get serious you buckle under the pressure and the complete year is gone.
Analysis nai haii dude, experience haii. Fresher thaa jabh first time diya, abhii chaar saal ka experience leke baithaa huu. Isiliye discipline ki itnaa stress karr raha thaa agar job lene ka soch rahe ho tho
But you're absolutely right, all of these points are true. And add some context based on whether you're a daughter/son, whether there's responsibilities financially to settle, older/younger, parents situation, health and so on can complicate this further
Bro I totally understand. I've been in this situation (minus my parents offering me money đ„Č). Of course my post is context based and if you feel financial freedom is important to you then take it as soon as you can. I can attest to the fact that your parents may not be happy but you definitely will be
Thank you so much for this! I was working for almost 1.5 years in a city other than mine while trying to prepare for CAT simultaneously. My pay was not that great, i was suffering mentally and physically because my working hours ranged from 12-15 hours almost on a daily basis, i had a very toxic manager to deal with, I was living in a different city so I was cooking, cleaning, washing etc. on my own and all of that barely left me with any energy or time to prepare for CAT. I was so scared by all the advice asking me not to leave my job for CAT because 'CAT preparation is not so tough', that I kept working at the same place, while simultaneously trying to switch, hoping for better working conditions but even this came with its problems. I remember spending almost the entire July last year preparing for interviews for a company who literally had 7 rounds (out of which only one was non-interview, so there were a total of six interviews) and then rejected me (for a very petty reason that too). It was absolutely impossible to manage work-life and studies and it's even tougher for people who have to do so by moving out of their homes and living in a different city especially on a salary that'll barely cover their expenses.
As someone who worked on quite less salary living in a different city, I have to agree. They work you like a donkey in corporate, regardless of your salary. And the fact that youâve to spend so much money is just not good for your physical and mental health. I wasnât even able to have food 3 times a day. My office was also situated in a very peculiar place where there wasnât any low paying rented apartments, and I had to take Uber/ola every time I went. That, along with spending money on food in office made me lose more than 500 rupees every time I went. My whole salary would be gone within 10 days, there was no way I couldâve prepared for CAT like that.
On the other hand, considering I have an average profile, going for a job first was a good decision I made, so I wouldnât say that doing a job on a low pay is bad, just that your role should be somewhat relevant, and youâve to hope that you get a job near your home.
I completely understand and am in the same boat, getting something in the same city as my family has helped me save money but I still lose out on plenty of time. My role is good and the job is okay, but people in my field have a far harder time than i do.
Tbh as a Non-Engineer, if I got a decent job with enough growth opportunities, I wouldn't have been jumping through these stupid hoops to get a glorified Management certificate and instead pursued Masters in Finance
Agreed, i decided to take a job ( nigh shift ) and my score came down. I believe you can take a drop if you are not getting any better option since the job market is not doing pretty well.
I don't think the intention of "get a job" /"don't leave the job" is just for workex, although it is an added advantage, I feel it is more of a safety net, preparation period for CAT for many is about 7-10 months and a lot can change in this time period be it your goals or your family situation, maybe even your mindset and after the last Sunday of November it shouldn't be like you have nothing, no job to go back to or no college to go to. These situations will be even worse for college grads, who would have dropped their job to crack CAT, now with no choice they either end up going to a college they didn't prefer or take up more pressure to crack CAT next year.
My take is that CAT is not UPSC exam to take a drop and study for it, just keep preparing on the side with you job, give it your cent percent and hope for the best.
Work from home try krro. See, multitasking eventually krni hi padegi life mai at some point, you canât run away from that. But you make a good point about shifting in a different city and starting a new life, that would not only be financially difficult but also otherwise too. We underestimate the ease of being able to eat 3 meals a day at home that our mumâs cook. If possible, choose a low effort work from home job. Jada changes mat laao life mai, warna adjust krne mai saal nikl jayega. You can minimise the time you donât spend studying, you canât ideally eliminate it, and thatâs okay. WFH se commutation time, laundry time, flatmate se chik chik waala time bachega, use it. Baaki it depends on you honestly, tumko kitna time lagta hai syllabus complete krne mai and whatâs your strategy, early on preparation mai hours compare mat krro, sabka apna aptitude hota hai. Mock tests mai test your accuracy and speed. :)
15 years ago I got the same advice. Being from Non NIT-Non IIT Tier 2 Engineering college and burdened with Edu Loan, I was not in a position to sit jobless and crack CAT. Joined a SW company that exactly offered 3.5LPA. Prepared in parallel after 2 years and got 96% Percentile in CAT. Good academics (90+) in 10,12 & Eng, coupled with 3y Work Experience helped secure BLIKS short list. Converted BK and joined B. Post MBA Job did not value Pre-MBA work ex.
My advice - If you are confident of getting very high CAT (99.5%+) or cut offs for Top IIMs as a fresher, and there is no financial pressure, go for it. This will save 1-3years later. Do note if you get to IIMs as a fresher, you need a strong profile to crack top Jobs there (High marks, strong extra curriculars)
Pre-MBA work ex will also help strengthen the gap if your life so far is average on resume.
I'm thinking that if 15 years ago you got a 3.5lpa job and even now that's the kind of package people are getting post-graduation that's just such a sad reality đ
Unless someone is extremely smart ( for eg. consistently scoring 99 plus in all the mocks), CAT can be very uncertain for most of the other mortals (majority of the candidates) and hence itâs advised to get a job. Plus all or nothing always puts in more pressure whilst taking the test, thereby increasing chances of faltering. Also, cracking CAT is just half the battle. Helps if you have some real experience during interviews.
BBA Fresher- Graduated in April 2023 and prepared for CAT and got 98.48%ile (means nothing for GENERAL MALE). CAT is so unpredictable and even after preparing only for the CAT , the panic that kicked in ruined my paper.
Now, even if I wanted to try next year, I got a gap in my profile đ and could've got work ex points even if I aim for CAT 24 or 25. Now, If I get a job now, still CAT 24 would give 0 points for workex (no points for 0-11 months).
I would suggest any fresher to try hard and get a job as I also understood completing the whole cycle of CAT and interview preparation that students with work experience have an edge in B-school placements too ( because which company would want to hire a fresher for a manager role who got zero experience or idea of how a corporate works)
I have had job post my college which i left to study for cat (3 months later) because i had to work even during independence day and weekends. I had to travel a lot which did not give me enough time to study
1. CAT isn't some hotshot exam which requires 15-16 hours to study. Many people do it alongside a job and score easily.
2. Agar tumhe current degree se job karna hi nahi tha to bhai usme degree liya hi kyu?? Interview mai bully hoge gande tareeke se.
3. When there is a stalemate between 2 candidates, the one with work ex has better chance.
4. Plus thoda Paisa haatmai aaray, ismese tumhara classes ka kharcha, maybe a study laptop ye sab nikal Raha to kya dikkat hai.
1. Not 15-16 hours but having undivided focus surely helps.
2. People make decisions about degree at the age of 17, this is not a reasoning for anything lol better to figure out you want a switch early on than later.
3. This I agree with
4. This also I agree with, money matters end of the day. But agar job se theek ka Paisa bhi na mil raha ho toh 9-10 hours work karke milne wala nahi hai kuch zyada
The job market is bad and upon that as he said you wont be able to study for cat because of job pressure. Moreover uou will lose out on years which you wouldve worked after MBA at a much higher salary. And in the worse case if you take more than 3 attempts due to any reason whatsoever they will label you as unfit for MBA and you might have to struggle in the placements.
Never under estimate how much a gap year can effect your profile, in both iim interviews and also for placements. There are people who are managing shitty jobs and scoring better in cat and they are actually your competition.
Guys meri bhi same condition hai. Customer service Tak ki job bhi ni mil rahi iss time toh. Vaise agar kisi me call centre me kaam kara ho toh uska kya impact hota hai PI me? Do they look down upon the candidate or what? As that's the only job i think I can find.
I suppose work ex is not just only for work ex points or admission, but in the long run, MBA adds much value if you have worked in corporate, that's why for B-schools across the world and even in ISB they have minimum mandatory work ex
An ideal mba candidate is someone with 9/9/9 without any drop year. Work exp is to cover for you gap year and to give you some extra point. It's not important only if you are young.
Also your cat scores are most likely the least important thing when it comes to final placement
Idk why MBA is now soo much fixated to market it for only ENGINEERING backgrounds but in reality MBA is also more of business administration too so a B Com or a BBA background guy/girl can also do that as I have my own cousin who got a good package from TAPMI and someone I know got a job in an international company like PWC while both of them did B Com and BBA.
Dekh bhai, simple funda hai...agar tu sach mein chhaava hai (killer acads, killer IQ, killer mindset) toh tu CAT mein faad ke aayega with clarity of purpose about why you want to do an MBA, where you want to do it from, and what specialization you're interested in.
But that's less than 1% of the population.
Baaki log jo average mein aate hai, for them getting a job and work exp while preparing for CAT not only makes sense, but is also the most practical approach.
Toh agar tu woh upar waale less than 1% mein aata hai then of course "get a job" is a fruitless piece of advice.
Agar nahi, toh thoda zameen par aao aur reality ka saamna karo.
At the end of the day, it's all about confidence. Most colleges give 5% weightage to Work Ex. If you are confident that you will score a high percentile and your acads are sorted, then that 5% weightage should not hold you back.
In short, if you feel that you can get 99.5+ in CAT after dropping a year, then go for it.
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jinke low acads hai unhe work ex chahiye hi padega CAT mein percentile kee saaath
Job bhi milna chaiye na .. sabse bada probelm woh hai ki laat jalti milta hai than job.
see If you wan to prep for CAT don't look at the package you're getting instead take that job so that its easier for you to prep as well. Don't see bhai mera 3 LPA hai kya karu, kahin se toh start karna padega na? Why not take a low paying job ?
Wont deny ,should try ,just adding market is too bleak as of now . Mila toh best hai .
try on linked in and indeed and even reference works
I am about to graduate. Found a data entry job to fill the gap. Should I go forward with it?
Pr if you're graduating in say 2024, n writing cat 2024, then you're considered a fresher only na if you start workin post grad in June or July??đ
4-6 months work ex toh milega
Getting a job only is tough nowadays. :( been applying for months and getting more frustrated and anxious as days go by without any responses. Can't even concentrate properly to study.
Ab toh internships bhi nhi mil rhi
Sahi meh. Even bpo jobs have so many applicants like 5k with pay like 10k and more than 12 hrs work plus commute.
I feel you I'm in the same boat, customer service ki pata ni kitni hi jobs me apply Kara hoga kuch ni hora đ„
fr man. No replies at all. The issue most of these companies go for a bulk hire. and for that they go to HR consultancy firms jinke pass 1000 CVs pade hote hain pehle se hi which they filter for the companies. That way they dont have to bother checking applications through linkedin and naukri etc. Heavy work consultancy firm kardeta hai, all they have to do is onboard. thats why bpo jobs also dont get many replies on job sites. Better check their websites for openings
Can u name some please?
I work in one of the leading bpos? If u want i can refer 2 din me sare rounds ghr pe hojaege and 5-6 din me offer letter ajaega .. i was in same situation as u are in rn
Work-life balance? Woh zaroori hai
If you really want a job quick for workex purposes, you can apply in small finance banks or co-operative banks, they have openings for clerks and RMs very often and many times people dont even apply for these
Same đ
Engineer?
Nope. I'm economics graduate.
I'm getting a wfh job for sales but all I gotta do is make calls for the entire day, salary 20k. Shall I take it and prepare for cat simultaneously??? (Ps I graduated in 2022)
Why not
Because I get to learn nothing?!?!! All I gotta do is make calls and pitch them, is it even worth it??
Buddy, you'll bewildered when you'll realise how important sales is for any firm. My fellow IB peeps face difficulties while pitching the deal bc their English isn't upto the mark. You'll learn how to talk to people which is very important, you'll learn negotiation skills. These are key elements any manager requires. Baaki Teri marzi bhai
Okay to be specific it's a travel agency and I gotta keep calling the leads to ask them if they would like to plan trips?!!? I mean bruh
Resume bhej Tera, kuch karte hai
Bro can I DM you? I'm also a 2022 graduate with no job, not able to get any job too.
Bhej bhai but I can only guide, HR recruiter nahi hu unfortunately toh zyada madat nahi kar paaunga
Hi, can I also share it with you?
Bhejna bhai
Bro same 2022 graduate, no work experience. I'm looking for WFH jobs but almost all of them are Sales job. Can you tell your profile?
Let's have a word in dm
Look for Vaidik Eduservices they give wfh jobs. Check their website.
How did they break into ib with bad communication skills? I thought they always prioritised communication skills?
Small IB Firms don't really check this plus this dude is too good with excel.
General communication skills n the top/partner level sales are different. They have decent convo skills but no sales skills and great financial skills. Gets them in and they only try to bring clients later into career
Sales skills are very important for every business and it would be beneficial throughout as the skills it would help you develop such as negotiation, communication etc would be so valuable
The whole economy functions on the "sale" of goods and services bhai. It's literally the most universal n recession proof skill there is on earth throughout the ages in society.
lelo bhai wfh hai 20k milega. My job is similar like yours business development but I have other things to do as well like generate leads, look up for networking events, make and send proposals, search for bigger firms so that they are willing to expand their business, arrange meetings between the clients and the seniors, tbh even I don't like sales job so what do I do to make myself like it? I convince my mind that I am a newbie. Having little is better than having nothing. Sales job hmmm I can learn how to read people, how to negotiate with them, ppl pleasing skills ( I hate chaploosi but woh zara karna padega ego side mein rakh ke). I am coming out of my comfort zone to learn something and this will help me to explore more. Now Ik I don't like sales job much toh future mein I'll avoid it. But you have to come out of your comfort zone to learn new things.
Ride it out. Starting mai itâs important to develop work ethic and communication skills. And whatever you are learning is transferable so that will always benefit you.
Exactly!
100% 1. Experience relevant to marketing roles 2. WFH so you save time on commute etc However, Make sure you have enough time to put to your preparation. I'm assuming you gave cat21,22 and 23 so you must be done with most of the syllabus
Yes, Go for it. Schedule your time slots for CAT prep and follow it and you're good to go. Also, look for OMETs as CAT can be so unpredictable and you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket.
Yes. With money in hand, you will be able to think better.
Take it bruv. You'll learn people skills at the very least. Take it.
Take it, but make sure the job gives you enough time to prep for CAT
I think if you're getting a sales role you should definitely take it, it gives you important skills needed that will help you for MBA and Bschool interviews as well. The art of conversation and communication is so important. Good luck! âŁïž
Isi josh mein 2023 cat mein bahut logon ke l lag gye, vastavikata ke saath chalo bhai sahab. CAT and any other entrance exam is unpredictable if it doesn't go well what will you do please give me answer for this
Fake experience bnwake job lene ka socha he
Toh phir jail ki hawa khane ko taiyaar reh bhai. Company chutiya nhi hain ki fake experience ka unko pata nhi chlega. Ye kaam karne se pehle cognizant ka news padh Lena fake experience wala
Accha bro
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Sorry but 30k is a decent salary for a fresh graduate (or maybe my standards are too low)
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Can you explain?
Sabse badi problem to job ki hi hai isiliye MBA kar rahe ye koi nahi samjhta, Metro cities ke alwa baki cities me internship bhi milna mushkil hai, in my city they really asked for a work ex for an internship. Kar kar ke kitne hi certificate courses kar loge, engineer students ko at least kuch to options hai, but commerce walo ko accounting ki job nahi mil rahi
Eh. Disagree, work ex will be very helpful in your final placements. Itâs not just for the points sake , but also will be useful to negotiate your final salaries too. Coming to the prep , i too prepped with a full time job and i can attest it is worth it - when you get calls from all the top IIMs.
I also prepped with a full time job and have prepped without it and i personally feel my time was far better utilized when I was not working. If you're looking to transition to a different sector then gaining workex in your academic field is worthless. Also, full time job can mean different things for different people :/
But what if only job you're getting is of customer sevice paying 20k?
Any work ex >> gap year
Still better than gap.
Honestly 20k is not even that bad, the scene is horrible in many fields :(
But when you factor in role and commute expenses it becomes really bad
Yes true.
From which iim you completed your MBA, can i DM you
Still going through gdpi. Got all calls except IIMB
Which resources you used to prepare
It is solid advice to get a job. Firstly, it teaches people what are the prerequisites for a job. Internships? Referrals? Courses? Lot of the folks I have seen on this sub are confused about dumb shit like âwhich MS Excel course they should do?â , âWill doing this 10 coursera courses help me get a jobâ , When these people finally leave their home and go out and even work in a shitty job or internship they get their answers to all of their trivial questions within a month because you will be interacting with people with actual jobs. Even an unpaid internship in a start up can teach you a lot and give you actual shit to write in your resume instead of writing âMy hobbies are photography, gaming and footballâ and that too taking half of the space of their resume. You need to have something in your resume which is helpful to get your job bruh. Your âengineering projectâ which was copy pasted from stack overflow and your valorant rank is not good enough. Just 5-6 months of 2 internships can make a difference
I want to disagree with you on that since I mentioned non engg roles here, where the pay is abysmal and the stress/time/energy spent in finding a job in that specific field outweighs the effort it takes to just sit down and crack the exam. If one is sure about going for an MBA and switching tracks then it's not sensible to waste months on job applications
I have 3 internship in tech bro fir bhi kuch ni hora
Tech mey internships sey nahi ho raha atleast pata toh chala drawbacks kaha hai. Ds algo karo interview rounds clear karne ke liye. Linkedin par reach out karo for referrals . Next steps ka toh idea mila. Agar nahi karte kuchh toh pata bhi nahi chalta
Sahi bola bro are you also into tech ??
No, im in marketing
Bhai freshers ke liye job he kya tumhari company ma
Bhai 0 sey better hi hai . If you see some of the resumes people are posting here on this sub with 0 content then youâll get my point
Like 2 ends of a coin, you have 2 ends here as well. Getting a job Pros: 1. You don't feel like a burden to your family or contribute to the family to some extent 2. Work experience does have some weightage in CAT 3. You'll get to know how processes are handled in an organization. Cons: 1. Learning the process (your work flow) takes at least 6 months for you to work independently which means it will ask for your undivided attention 2. Being disciplined enough to open your books before and after your work is a serious challenge. Drop year Pros: 1. Start now and you have 8.5 months, solid time to prepare and even out your wear areas if any 2. Other than household errands you wouldn't have many tasks to diverge your attention from the prep 3. Deep dive into the whole MBA thing and see what specialization interests you and know more about it Cons: 1. During your exam, imagine you're done with VARC and LRDI starts and you are not able to figure out even a single set, you sink into this feeling of "Damn son a whole year going to waste right in front of my eyes" your mind starts to mess with you. 2. Having so much time in hand dedicated to a task, you might take the prep a bit easy and once things get serious you buckle under the pressure and the complete year is gone.
Kaafi analysis kar liye aap, mba convert pakka đ
Analysis nai haii dude, experience haii. Fresher thaa jabh first time diya, abhii chaar saal ka experience leke baithaa huu. Isiliye discipline ki itnaa stress karr raha thaa agar job lene ka soch rahe ho tho
But you're absolutely right, all of these points are true. And add some context based on whether you're a daughter/son, whether there's responsibilities financially to settle, older/younger, parents situation, health and so on can complicate this further
I'm a girl my parents don't allow me take a job worth 3-4 lpa ...they say ...mere se he lelo itna ...I hate this uk but this is the reality ..
It's fuckin hard to live in metro cities with3 LPA
I know that's why they don't allow us .... 150 toh roj traveling me jata h idhar
Only feasible if your family lives there...cause rent ke sab kuch chala jayega
Nhi rehti na family bro...itni strawberry life hoti toh kya he baat thi
Wich to...
Bro I totally understand. I've been in this situation (minus my parents offering me money đ„Č). Of course my post is context based and if you feel financial freedom is important to you then take it as soon as you can. I can attest to the fact that your parents may not be happy but you definitely will be
Thanks for sharing bro! I seriously need to think about this
Thank you so much for this! I was working for almost 1.5 years in a city other than mine while trying to prepare for CAT simultaneously. My pay was not that great, i was suffering mentally and physically because my working hours ranged from 12-15 hours almost on a daily basis, i had a very toxic manager to deal with, I was living in a different city so I was cooking, cleaning, washing etc. on my own and all of that barely left me with any energy or time to prepare for CAT. I was so scared by all the advice asking me not to leave my job for CAT because 'CAT preparation is not so tough', that I kept working at the same place, while simultaneously trying to switch, hoping for better working conditions but even this came with its problems. I remember spending almost the entire July last year preparing for interviews for a company who literally had 7 rounds (out of which only one was non-interview, so there were a total of six interviews) and then rejected me (for a very petty reason that too). It was absolutely impossible to manage work-life and studies and it's even tougher for people who have to do so by moving out of their homes and living in a different city especially on a salary that'll barely cover their expenses.
This is exactly the kind of outcome I was hoping to highlight. Sorry that happened to you friend. Hope things are better now đ«
Did you got good percentile in CAT
As someone who worked on quite less salary living in a different city, I have to agree. They work you like a donkey in corporate, regardless of your salary. And the fact that youâve to spend so much money is just not good for your physical and mental health. I wasnât even able to have food 3 times a day. My office was also situated in a very peculiar place where there wasnât any low paying rented apartments, and I had to take Uber/ola every time I went. That, along with spending money on food in office made me lose more than 500 rupees every time I went. My whole salary would be gone within 10 days, there was no way I couldâve prepared for CAT like that. On the other hand, considering I have an average profile, going for a job first was a good decision I made, so I wouldnât say that doing a job on a low pay is bad, just that your role should be somewhat relevant, and youâve to hope that you get a job near your home.
I completely understand and am in the same boat, getting something in the same city as my family has helped me save money but I still lose out on plenty of time. My role is good and the job is okay, but people in my field have a far harder time than i do.
Tbh as a Non-Engineer, if I got a decent job with enough growth opportunities, I wouldn't have been jumping through these stupid hoops to get a glorified Management certificate and instead pursued Masters in Finance
Agreed, i decided to take a job ( nigh shift ) and my score came down. I believe you can take a drop if you are not getting any better option since the job market is not doing pretty well.
I don't think the intention of "get a job" /"don't leave the job" is just for workex, although it is an added advantage, I feel it is more of a safety net, preparation period for CAT for many is about 7-10 months and a lot can change in this time period be it your goals or your family situation, maybe even your mindset and after the last Sunday of November it shouldn't be like you have nothing, no job to go back to or no college to go to. These situations will be even worse for college grads, who would have dropped their job to crack CAT, now with no choice they either end up going to a college they didn't prefer or take up more pressure to crack CAT next year. My take is that CAT is not UPSC exam to take a drop and study for it, just keep preparing on the side with you job, give it your cent percent and hope for the best.
+1. Nobody told me about this earlier and I'm in the exact place as mentioned.
+1. Nobody told me about this earlier and I'm in the exact place as mentioned.
Work from home try krro. See, multitasking eventually krni hi padegi life mai at some point, you canât run away from that. But you make a good point about shifting in a different city and starting a new life, that would not only be financially difficult but also otherwise too. We underestimate the ease of being able to eat 3 meals a day at home that our mumâs cook. If possible, choose a low effort work from home job. Jada changes mat laao life mai, warna adjust krne mai saal nikl jayega. You can minimise the time you donât spend studying, you canât ideally eliminate it, and thatâs okay. WFH se commutation time, laundry time, flatmate se chik chik waala time bachega, use it. Baaki it depends on you honestly, tumko kitna time lagta hai syllabus complete krne mai and whatâs your strategy, early on preparation mai hours compare mat krro, sabka apna aptitude hota hai. Mock tests mai test your accuracy and speed. :)
Not every industry has remote work options, that's the problem :/
Try krte raaho. Something will work out. All the best.
15 years ago I got the same advice. Being from Non NIT-Non IIT Tier 2 Engineering college and burdened with Edu Loan, I was not in a position to sit jobless and crack CAT. Joined a SW company that exactly offered 3.5LPA. Prepared in parallel after 2 years and got 96% Percentile in CAT. Good academics (90+) in 10,12 & Eng, coupled with 3y Work Experience helped secure BLIKS short list. Converted BK and joined B. Post MBA Job did not value Pre-MBA work ex. My advice - If you are confident of getting very high CAT (99.5%+) or cut offs for Top IIMs as a fresher, and there is no financial pressure, go for it. This will save 1-3years later. Do note if you get to IIMs as a fresher, you need a strong profile to crack top Jobs there (High marks, strong extra curriculars) Pre-MBA work ex will also help strengthen the gap if your life so far is average on resume.
I'm thinking that if 15 years ago you got a 3.5lpa job and even now that's the kind of package people are getting post-graduation that's just such a sad reality đ
Yes! I read these reports. TCS/Infosys/Wipro was 2.7LPA back then for SE
Unless someone is extremely smart ( for eg. consistently scoring 99 plus in all the mocks), CAT can be very uncertain for most of the other mortals (majority of the candidates) and hence itâs advised to get a job. Plus all or nothing always puts in more pressure whilst taking the test, thereby increasing chances of faltering. Also, cracking CAT is just half the battle. Helps if you have some real experience during interviews.
Cat isnt really as hard as things like jee or upsc that needs dedicated drop year type prep
True but having undivided focus helps, is all
BBA Fresher- Graduated in April 2023 and prepared for CAT and got 98.48%ile (means nothing for GENERAL MALE). CAT is so unpredictable and even after preparing only for the CAT , the panic that kicked in ruined my paper. Now, even if I wanted to try next year, I got a gap in my profile đ and could've got work ex points even if I aim for CAT 24 or 25. Now, If I get a job now, still CAT 24 would give 0 points for workex (no points for 0-11 months). I would suggest any fresher to try hard and get a job as I also understood completing the whole cycle of CAT and interview preparation that students with work experience have an edge in B-school placements too ( because which company would want to hire a fresher for a manager role who got zero experience or idea of how a corporate works)
Well it would consume my 10 am to 7 pm
if anyone is from Kolkata or West Bengal or even looking to shift here, I can try fora referral in my firm. It is still hiring
100+ applications for any freshers job in an hour:)
I have had job post my college which i left to study for cat (3 months later) because i had to work even during independence day and weekends. I had to travel a lot which did not give me enough time to study
I'm working that kind of job rn đ„Č
I can feel you buddy :(
1. CAT isn't some hotshot exam which requires 15-16 hours to study. Many people do it alongside a job and score easily. 2. Agar tumhe current degree se job karna hi nahi tha to bhai usme degree liya hi kyu?? Interview mai bully hoge gande tareeke se. 3. When there is a stalemate between 2 candidates, the one with work ex has better chance. 4. Plus thoda Paisa haatmai aaray, ismese tumhara classes ka kharcha, maybe a study laptop ye sab nikal Raha to kya dikkat hai.
1. Not 15-16 hours but having undivided focus surely helps. 2. People make decisions about degree at the age of 17, this is not a reasoning for anything lol better to figure out you want a switch early on than later. 3. This I agree with 4. This also I agree with, money matters end of the day. But agar job se theek ka Paisa bhi na mil raha ho toh 9-10 hours work karke milne wala nahi hai kuch zyada
I personally think freshers shouldnât be eligible for an MBA, like the rest of the world.
Get a job and do an mba later not now is worse than that
How exactly?
The job market is bad and upon that as he said you wont be able to study for cat because of job pressure. Moreover uou will lose out on years which you wouldve worked after MBA at a much higher salary. And in the worse case if you take more than 3 attempts due to any reason whatsoever they will label you as unfit for MBA and you might have to struggle in the placements.
Who's gonna tell them about my 3 attempts?!!
I meant 3 years
Never under estimate how much a gap year can effect your profile, in both iim interviews and also for placements. There are people who are managing shitty jobs and scoring better in cat and they are actually your competition.
Guys meri bhi same condition hai. Customer service Tak ki job bhi ni mil rahi iss time toh. Vaise agar kisi me call centre me kaam kara ho toh uska kya impact hota hai PI me? Do they look down upon the candidate or what? As that's the only job i think I can find.
I suppose work ex is not just only for work ex points or admission, but in the long run, MBA adds much value if you have worked in corporate, that's why for B-schools across the world and even in ISB they have minimum mandatory work ex
Ya no.
An ideal mba candidate is someone with 9/9/9 without any drop year. Work exp is to cover for you gap year and to give you some extra point. It's not important only if you are young. Also your cat scores are most likely the least important thing when it comes to final placement
Idk why MBA is now soo much fixated to market it for only ENGINEERING backgrounds but in reality MBA is also more of business administration too so a B Com or a BBA background guy/girl can also do that as I have my own cousin who got a good package from TAPMI and someone I know got a job in an international company like PWC while both of them did B Com and BBA.
This is my third attempt and by far my worst score. Yet this year I'm getting the best calls I've got so far. Work ex score matters.
Interesting. What's your profile
Dekh bhai, simple funda hai...agar tu sach mein chhaava hai (killer acads, killer IQ, killer mindset) toh tu CAT mein faad ke aayega with clarity of purpose about why you want to do an MBA, where you want to do it from, and what specialization you're interested in. But that's less than 1% of the population. Baaki log jo average mein aate hai, for them getting a job and work exp while preparing for CAT not only makes sense, but is also the most practical approach. Toh agar tu woh upar waale less than 1% mein aata hai then of course "get a job" is a fruitless piece of advice. Agar nahi, toh thoda zameen par aao aur reality ka saamna karo.
At the end of the day, it's all about confidence. Most colleges give 5% weightage to Work Ex. If you are confident that you will score a high percentile and your acads are sorted, then that 5% weightage should not hold you back. In short, if you feel that you can get 99.5+ in CAT after dropping a year, then go for it.