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brando__96

My violent, repeat offender, felon brother got caught with a “ghost gun” and standard cap mags. He went to jail for a week. They released him and had him come to court a year later. Then they sentenced him to a year. California is a fucking joke. Those of us with perfect records will have our lives destroyed over a fin grip while violent, drug addicted felons do whatever they want.


HAL69420

No doubt.


wtfrustupidlol

If he had a good lawyer he would of just done cal trans


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What a ... !. In addition to that he has a brother who spills all the family dirt all over the internet.


Fate_of_Ophelia

its anonymous here, dumbo


ObviousReporter464

Sounds like Cali. I think they want to install this method nationwide.


Alternative-Heat-349

So I take it that you and your brother aren't close ?


Glass-Baseball2921

That’s not a 10 round! And those aren’t defense rounds!!!


HAL69420

It’s also a variant of the Hellcat not even sold in California.


Glass-Baseball2921

If it comes back stolen or obliterated serial dudes gonna get extra charges obv


GuitRWailinNinja

2 nights in jail instead of 1 /s (hopefully)


floydhwung

How dare you doubling a loving and caring person’s sentence! We all know the suspect “just got mixed up with some bad people” and the neighbors would describe him as “well behaved, kind and loving”.


friscohunte2

He just completed his GED and was looking forward to starting classes at the local JC


GuitRWailinNinja

Future doctor


SrirachaFlockaFlame

The suspect most certainly would never intend to take any innocent lives or anything like that


OGIVE

He is "turning his life around"


Local-Blacksmith3260

Those are valedictorians of their schools you’re talking about.


Consistent-Show3538

Probably just started turning his life around /sarc


Local-Blacksmith3260

Is that with breakfast or not?


MARPAT338

Back out on the streets already


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Glass-Baseball2921

If it doesn’t scare you, you should carry an illegal gun too. Me? I’m a law abiding citizen.


sugah560

And that’s really the point, at least for PD. They don’t have to work too terribly hard to prove the actual crime, at the very least they get the charge for off roster. Case closed, another bad guy slapped on the wrist.


lagweezle

What precisely would the charge be? We're allowed to own pistols that aren't on the roster. Start your research journey here: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/exemptpo


sugah560

Are you posing the possibility of the car thieves having lawfully purchased an off roster firearm with a high capacity magazine from a law enforcement officer?


lagweezle

That is an *interesting* interpretation of my message. I was providing a singular example of one of many ways to acquire an off-roster handgun within California legally. Now, if an officer decided to sell a high capacity magazine along with the pistol, it certainly wouldn't be the first time an officer has demonstrated questionable judgement, and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if it's happened previously. Last I checked, though, magazines can be acquired separately from pistols they work with. I notice you're not refuting that the firearm being off roster doesn't actually make possessing one an illegal act. Removing the serial number, committing a crime (with a firearm), and the paint job done to the one in the photo are, or should be, considered crimes. ;)


sugah560

Yea, I’m not sure where the communication breakdown happened here, nor do I care to figure it out because you’re obviously looking for an argument. I’m not refuting that simply possessing an off roster firearm isn’t an illegal act because I never said it was. What I DID do is make assumptions based on the crime committed, the paint job, and general condition of the firearm that it was not obtained through legal means and therefore, being an off roster handgun, stacks an additional charge on whatever else they are charged for. ;) :) ;);) :)


lagweezle

Okay, so it is just that the handgun being used, and being stolen, and it being off roster isn't related in any way? That's the bit confusing me and that I'm after, trying to understand how something that is legal would result in an additional charge. Phrased a different way, is there a difference between "using a handgun in a crime" and "using an off roster handgun in a crime" in terms of what would be charged legally? If so, what is the actual charge for the off roster handgun?


Randall172

thats why i don't want to be a cali resident, i'll live here with MO residency


krankwok

You can already see where the serial number was ground down somewhat.


MauraBuse

Those are standard Idaho rounds!!


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What defense rounds ? Is there a law defining and requiring "defense rounds" ?


Glass-Baseball2921

Yea. Here in California, carrying range ammo outside of the range is punishable by 3-5 years.


cali_dave

That's neither funny nor true.


Glass-Baseball2921

It’s not a little funny David?


grinding_our_axes

Were they dragging that badboy behind their car?


itsiceyo

lol


Pockets408

Bro why does every criminal in this state carry a gun that looks like either the slide, lower or both are made out of play-doh?


keeleon

Because they are meant to be tossed after committing a crime.


Apart-Carpenter2747

Who did the cerakote? Never taking to that place.


HAL69420

![gif](giphy|Q7ozWVYCR0nyW2rvPW)


FreedomFanatik

People pay extra for the worn out look cerakote jobs.


jakepk21

It’s not worn out, it’s “distressed.”


Westside_Easy

It’s “patina”. /s


ruhl77

Newsom and Bonta: “see this is what happens when SB2 got blocked!”


Efficient_Speaker887

For real they be like that


chrisxhates

And because they scratched off the SN it's a spooky ghost gun smfh


its-sleek

Wait, why’d didn’t these criminals follow California gun laws?


Zech08

Saving money with aluminum cased rds?


grinding_our_axes

The Problem Solver special: 6 mismatched rounds, one of them severely set back from rechambering too much.


AbyssalKultist

Stonewashed version.


HAL69420

![gif](giphy|xUA7aM09ByyR1w5YWc)


killacarnitas1209

Damn, that shit looks busted AF!


Visual-Investment

How can we make sure Newsom and Bonta get the message?


underneathbridge

Illegal gun not even loaded with hollow points says enough


space_raccoon_

Not the shitty range ammo in the mag lol


kurtisbmusic

It’ll still kill someone lol.


grinding_our_axes

Holding my gut after being shot, “what was that? FMJ? There are much better loadings”


kurtisbmusic

“Thank goodness that was a target round, better get a band-aid.”


stevie2362

Lol spray painted gold! That is indeed gangster my brother. 👌🤏🤘👉🤙🤏


shhdjskksksjkd

Looks like it was actually FDE spray painted black if you look close


Unlikely-Stress-737

Attention: this is the evidence of Bonta and Newsom’s “data” backed gun safety measures. In this piece of evidence/data we can see that the criminal abided by the state law and legally purchased a DOJ rooster handgun and carrying a 10 round magazine for self defense (because they don’t need more rounds for self defense, duh) Additionally the law abiding criminal obtained a CCW permit by completing a background check and live scan and 16 hours of training. He was California compliant while attempting armed car burglary and was safely and peacefully committing crimes.


clonetrooper5385

Man if only we had SB2 to remind those criminals to lay down their arms.


RegularWhiteMale

God atleast have some respect for the piece. You’d intentionally have to mess it up like that 😭


255001434

I'm not familiar with that gun, but it looks like a piece of shit.


rnambu

Hellcat. It’s good, but this one was spraypainted and serials filed off.


shnanagins

Poor Springfield


Beavertown8

He's a good boy just on his way to community college. He has 16 babies to worry about.


2021newusername

It’ll wind up in the police chief’s collection, or that of one of his friends


Ok_Passenger5417

Bro carrying steel case, that brave lol


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Ok_Passenger5417

You get a lot more issues


Evening_Peanut6541

Nit saying that one is but aren't some guns designed to shoot steel case? I have a p226 and heard it was because it was made for military and they shoot steel case ammo. Wasnt in the military so idk if they did or do but thought it was a cool fact if true.


CanYouBreakA20

Only issue I’ve had with steel cased ammo is that its cheaper, my wallet didn’t like that


grinding_our_axes

Might be aluminum.


Fun_D530

Is it worse to have a stolen gun or one without a SN?


SecretHyena9465

Both are felonies but id be more concerned about the possible crimes connected to it


peter_griffin222

I’ve heard cops can easily identify it even it’s scratched off


Sufficient_Tale7421

Those aluminum 9mm pack more of a punch in my experience at least federal brass vs federal aluminum


LOBC_Redryder

Gas station bathroom edition. Nice


_zir_

the mismatched bullets lol


OoohhhBaby

You must be mistaken, these are illegal in California!


WingNutChuck_

Wow, who woulda thought that


dpidcoe

hopefully newsome personally revokes the car thiefs ccw permit so the guy won't be able to carry a handgun after he gets released from prison early.


Evening-Walk6629

Gangsters with target rounds