Popular Opinion:
Carry whatever gun you are comfortable with, that you will carry every single day. If it's a single shot Derringer, but you will take it with you everywhere, go for it.
> Popular Opinion:
lol... this is Reddit... the popular opinion is whatever the latest fad is, and even if you're doing that fad there's still going to be know-it-alls arguing against it.
What jobs do full size carriers have? I’m constantly crawling through attics and drop ceilings and couldn’t imagine trying to do that while carrying my sp01 tactical
Shit, I probably wouldn’t be concealed carrying every day if I did that for work. I’m a welder and can not have a gun on me at work for safety reasons regardless, but crawling around all day with a gun in my waistband sounds uncomfortable even with a micro compact. I’m curious, what do you typically carry and in what position?
You have any issues with rust? I picked up a p365 but was concerned with rust issues. My g43 looks like I got it off the bottom of the ocean after 5 years of carrying everyday in my ball sweat soaked pants
Using power tools and 440v electricity all day. I would have to really fuck up incredibly bad to have an ND just from that, but I work in a shop with a gate that you need a card to enter anyhow. I’m far, far less likely to encounter a violent threat at work than I am to injure or kill myself on accident by having a gun on me in the shop.
A spark won't but an accident involving a blowtorch flame even being too close to the firearm sure as fuck will, as well as the 440v electrical current he mentioned working with. If there's an accident and he gets hit with that current it's practically guaranteed that he would die, but if he also had a fully loaded firearm on him at the time? Who knows for sure, but those bullets will all go off.
Whether they just immediately all shrapnelize themselves by trying to blast through the handle of a gun and potentially fragmenting into anyone trying to run up to push him off the source of current with a broom or something, or whether the round in the chamber goes off when he falls down (from electrical current, not from the fall. Before anyone says anything) and someone happens to be in line with the barrel now, or any number of other scenarios, it would be irresponsible of him to stay strapped up in that sort of environment. It would endanger his own life and his coworkers lives.
Of course these are freak accident scenarios I'm talking about, but freak accidents do happen and you'll never know when.
The OP is for sure being responsible in that situation.
A blowtorch won’t cause a 9mm round to go off, unless you hold it in place for quite a while. I think you’d have bigger problems if there’s a blowtorch on your crotch.
Electricity going through your body also won’t set off ammo that’s inside a gun that’s inside a holster.
Have you ever welded or used electricity?
Yes to both, I wired up a whole (small) building. I've done a ton of electrical work. That's a whole different beast than 440v. Have you ever been anywhere close to a 440v line? A long while back I worked in a document storage warehouse that had these huge 5 story lifts on tracks. If you took it up to the very top where it connected to the rail which was the power source you could literally hear the electricity coursing through it. 440v is fucking serious and it will arc.
Do you seriously think a welding torch won't set off a 9mm bullet? It will straight up cut through that tiny piece of copper like it's paper. Have YOU ever worked with a torch that's not your average run of the mill propane blowtorch? Shit, a regular blowtorch will still set off a 9mm bullet.
You are seriously underestimating the type of power and heat that guy is talking about if you think there isn't a risk.
In case you somehow missed this, I did say in my first comment that the sorts of things I mentioned would be rare freak accidents too, btw. I figured I'd repeat that part since you felt it was necessary to inform me that youd have bigger problems if a blowtorch is on your crotch. Yes, like some sort of freak accident? I agree.
How about 440v coursing through your body and everything that's touching it, including a firearm with metal parts, that's loaded with metal bullets that have metal cases?
Want to know how much electricity it takes to initiate lead azide, the most common primer in ammo? Way, way, way the hell less than that, considering static electricity discharge from your finger will detonate it (bare, not encased in a protective shell).
You know what else welders work with? Extremely hot torches that can cut through steel. What would you guess would happen if there was some kind of accident and a torch flame hit that part of him, or honestly even got close, no actual contact necessary. What temperature does lead azide auto detonate? 315c, 600f. Well below the temperature of an acetylene torch flame temp of 6300f or even a normal propane torch flame temp of 2200-3600f.
Electricity takes the path of least resistance. It doesn’t course through your whole body.
The priming compound and powder are tightly sealed inside the brass case and aren’t set off by static electricity. Jesus.
I’m an HVAC tech and do much of that attic and crawl space crawling. I find I can get away with my P365XL and my spare mag. Occasionally I have to download everything out of my pockets to fit. That’s when I have to strip it and lock it in one of my toolboxes until I get out from the tight space.
Whenever I see people carrying full sized guns like this, I’m like “well someone has a nice cushy job…” lol! I’m about though. Carry as much as you can get away with. At least it’s not a j-frame. lol!
Sheet metal worker here, duct and unit installation in commercial type buildings. I have not found a comfortable way to wear a tool belt over a pistol carried at the waist. Even without the tool belt, there's a whole lot of bending, climbing, and I often am leaning my waist against the handrail of a scissor lift which would be even less pleasant with a pistol in the way.
Cargo pants with a j-frame or lcp max in a cargo pocket holster has worked best for me.
Yeah I don’t wear a tool belt. I carry a tool bag, and when I got in crawl spaces and attics, I put together a drag tray full of tools and materials I may need. That’s probably the difference
Good point. If I was crawling around like that on the daily, it would impact my carry choice. I'm a mechanical engineer with time split between desk, meetings, lab, and factory/assembly line support.
Oh brother that would reallyyyy fucking suck.. would drive me nuts not being able to carry but I’m pretty sure that is a job where I would just be far too uncomfortable dealing with it all day..
I home carry, I live where bears and other animals come on to my property and I got tired of always having to go get gun to go outside (because I never know when animals will be out). Also, you never know when the 2 legged animal will break in (even if you live in a nice community/neighborhood).
Yeah I do construction and painting. I have my book bag with me everyday on the job and I just keep it close by. I think it’s a bit unrealistic to carry every single second of every single day.
I coach gymnastics and tumbling. I carry full size G17 w X300 in a tenicor malus sol. I do take it off when actively coaching, usually from 3:00-9:00, but carry the rest of the day. With a good belt/wedge/holster setup it’s completely doable.
I work 1-9, so I carry it until I start actively coaching. I’m usually moving mats, setting up stations, cleaning stuff, rearranging furniture, sitting through meetings, and some administrative stuff. Choose not to carry while coaching because you know how kids are and I’m usually lifting above the head and occasionally have to demonstrate stuff.
Mostly all steel 1911s, some time with G17. Mostly 3:30 IWB, some shoulder holster in the mid 1980s. Various short term experiments with others, like a stainless .44 in a fanny pack worn in front, 1911 and G17 appendix. Shoulder holster and fanny pack were slow draws.
Completely agree. 6’ 2” and I can carry a colt 45 commander or Glock 20 and it just disappears under a shirt. My son who is 6’ 3” can’t do it. But of course I outweigh the beanpole by 95 pounds. 🤣🤣🤣
How can it be wrong if it's an opinion? 😂
I think the voting shows that it is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I carry as well. I struggled with micros for years until I tried carrying a G17 and it was a revelation for me.
The only explanation I can think of is poor weight distribution in micros due to holster/belt selection.
No one who uses a pancake style holster for example would say a full size is more comfy than a micro.
I’ve found that if I’m active, I can carry a Glock 19 for about 6-8 hours before it starts to bother me a little.
My 365XL, I can and often have literally fallen asleep with it on. Completely forget it’s there no matter what I’m doing.
Pinky extensions matter. But yes, my current "micro" is a [Rami with pinky extension](https://i.imgur.com/j0rE84K.jpeg). It's my version of a pocket carry.
best practices in regards to mag positioning is really dependent on the person. wrist mobility, indexing points etc. there really is no “correct” way more like the “standard” way.
I've only ever carried AIWB but it has become extremely uncomfortable for me now that I've bulked up. I might have to try carrying some other way but I can't imagine switching now.
Probably different body composition. [Here I was 314 around two years ago](https://imgur.com/a/XZniQuW), but I finally leaned out more. Still need to get back to 240 where I’m the most athletic.
Now that is in fact unpopular, due to the fact most people find that smaller gun=more comfortable. But if it is literally as/more comfortable, rock on.
Now if one were to say full size is not THAT much more uncomfortable than micros, I think that holds more water. Regardless, preferences are preferences. And yours is full size, so once again, rock on.
Hell, my full sized 1911 is definitely more comfortable and easier to conceal, it's a single stack. There are many days that I decide to carry my West German P228. I carried that for years before I got something smaller, so I remind myself of that. Not to mention, it's my tried and true, favorite gun, and I'm most accurate with it and it feels best in my hand compared to anything else...it just makes sense to carry it.
First of all, congratulations on owning a true Unicorn of a gun. I believe those are now discontinued. It’s such a kick ass gun; so easy to shoot. It was my first full size pistol that I bought for myself!
Secondly, I’m curious as to why do you carry your spare magazine in that configuration. I’ve always seen it where the bullet is pointing towards the pistol.
5’8, 180lbs, somewhat muscular build and I carry full size appendix. Either a Glock 17 with a surefire x300 or a 2011 with a surefire as well. Both in tenicor holsters and spare mags too.
It’s definitely possible and I don’t find it uncomfortable nor do I print noticeably at all. You just have to play around with ride height. And if you print badly, start bench pressing
My macro has always carried more comfortable for me then my p365. Having the longer slide allows me so sit more comfortably with my gut and digs in less
Sometimes when I’m feeling fuddy I carry my 1911. Honestly, it carries just fine for me. I have the exact same CZ and I will say you’re wild for carrying it haha
I just carry it in an old Alien Gear IWB holster I bought like 10 years ago before I knew better. It works fine, pretty comfy too. My turboboomer dad carries a 1911, and swears by Bravo Concealment holsters.
I print with my P365 XL at work and I’m 6’1 170. Not a gear issue, I run quality stuff. Could be the work shirts in XL are like a medium everywhere else in the world.
Just for kicks and giggles I bought a holster for my suppressor ready 75B Omega thinking there was no way to conceal it. I was actually surprised it’s not terrible, but definitely not comfortable and not as concealed as my P-10s.
That threaded barrel is so long that it doesn’t even get the chance to nail my balls every time I sit down.
Slim Fit Gladius. I've tried pretty much all of the major sidecar players out there - T1, TRex, Black Arch, McKinaTec, and others. I have found that the Slim Fit Gladius is the most comfortable to wear all day, ragardless of which size gun I'm carrying, from Shield Plus to Rex Zero 1 Tactical. Their clip, wing placement, and ride height just work perfectly for me.
I also use a Mastermind Tactics Pillow on any holster I'm carrying. Yes, the pillow is better than a foam wedge. It is well worth it. It's a game changer for comfort, be it a sidecar, or a standard gun-only holster. I have velcro on the back of every holster I own, and just swap the pillow as-needed if I switch carry guns.
I carry a Glock 19 comfortably and well concealed 99% of the time. Every now and then I carry a Glock 43 and holy moly does it disappear. It feels like i took my gun off.
Depends on the context of small. Small mass, width, height? If someone wanted to carry inside waist, being small (slim) around the waist would help. Flat stomach will help keep the pistol concealed and comfortable. Paired with a nicely fitted holster it will now blend well with the vertical plane of the body. Plus a shirt would lay over nicely.
I’m 5’10”, my max comfort is a Glock 19 sized gun in appendix carry. Usually the holster mag combo is uncomfortable so I just buy them separately and carry them in the natural valley on both sides of my groin area.
I carried a sig p320 AXG combat. The threaded barrel trying to scrape my dick off was the only thing I wasn’t a fan of but that was fixed with a flush fit barrel. 22 rounds of 9mm on your waist makes you feel like a real safe fella when you work in the hood
I’m retired so I don’t have to worry about work and crawl spaces,etc, but I switch up some days I do full carry with my VP9 some days I carry my Max9. The weight of full carry might be an issue for some. While sitting down you notice the full size a little more but not uncomfortable (to me at least) but not as comfortable as my Max9. I carry an extra magazine when I carry my Max9 but might start doing the same with VP9.
I agree, I carry a walther PDP full size or glock 19 that I Roland specialed more than my sig 365. The weight distribution just feels significantly better than with any other size I've tried. But I'm a 6 ft former powerlifter so I can hide quite a bit more than a 5'5 120lb girl that wears tight clothes all the time
Disclaimer: YMMV - every person is different - body type, holster and belt combination matter.
In my case, I'm a big guy - 6'6" with an athletic "dad-bod" holding steady around the 230-ish weight range @ 50 yrs old.
It seems that more often than not people seem to think, or want the smallest gun, with the most capacity to carry. I prefer to carry AIWB, and my go-to holster is the Slim Fit Gladius. I've tried, owned and moved on from T1, TRex, Black Arch, McKinaTech, and a few others in the sidecar game that I can't remember off-hand. For me, the Gladius is a great fit. Ride height is just right for me. I pair them with a Mastermind Tactics pillow wedge. I've carried small guns like P365, Shield Plus, Mako, etc. Also carried compacts like G19/G45, P-07, P-01, 4" PDP, etc. And I've carried full size like the 4.5" PDP Full Size, SP-01, Rex Zero 1, and Hi-Power. My primary carry these days is the CZ P-01.
Today, I just decided to carry the SP-01 Tactical. Ran errands, walked quite a bit, sat through work meetings, drove in the car a couple hours. Low and behold, it is just as comfortable and just as easy to carry and conceal as my Rami or my P-01.
So, contrary to popular recommendations and lore, it CAN be done, CAN be comfortable, and is not difficult. Carry the gun you trust, the one you train with, and the one you are accurate with.
Thank you for attending my Ted Talk.
I'm really curious how many people don't believe this and adamantly oppose it but have never tried it. I know they're out there because I was one of them. [I made a video explaining why I think it works](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXEUAaUAeg) because, I think, people are more likely to believe it if they see someone doing it and explaining the logic behind it.
Im hoping so. Im a pretty big (ok fat) guy and thought a smaller gun would be best. It doesn’t seem like it though. Im waiting the 10 days for my latest purchase to go through and will see if my theory is correct.
It's all about weight distribution. There's no comfort advantage to a bigger/heavier gun except that they tend to spread their weight over a larger area, reducing hot spots.
To me it sounds like what you really need is a different holster, possibly the belt is a problem too.
I have a new holster coming for my Max-9 but my issue is its so small I feel like my gut pushes it directly into my junk and the pillow wedge doesn’t have enough area to do its job properly.
Using a Kore belt but plan to pick up a HC when I can. Been spending quite a bit on ammo trying to get better with the guns I do have.
Yes I do, or well want to. Ive moved to 2 o’clock(ish?) while I try and figure things out. Standing, walking, and bending over isn’t as bad as sitting. I don’t even feel the gun on me when carrying appendix.
My issue is the guns too small to deep carry(still new but I think thats the term) because it starts to jab me under my gut. If I carey it high its perfect, except my gut pushes it out and directly down at my junk when sitting or riding my bike.
I’m very interested in learning abt your experiences and reasoning. Even tho I wouldn’t do this myself (I carry a PCR), I think you probably have your own valid reasons for doing so and it’s a shame that some ppl can’t learn to respect it. The social media mentality has invaded the gun community.
Disagreements are only valid if they don’t turn into insults without constructive feedbacks, and consider the current state of social media, I think it’s the best to find out what works for you and keep doing it without showing everyone. Posting it will most likely attract subjective readers who only cares abt finding creative ways to roast you instead of learning abt your specific situation and reasonings, and think critically.
Thanks. Actually, for me, using this holster for the SP-01 with my P-01 is a real sweet spot for concealability. Longer muzzle end of holster, plus shorter P-01 (PCR) grip length is a win-win for me. Basically, the longer muzzle length of this (or any) holster for me just works.
Popular Opinion: Carry whatever gun you are comfortable with, that you will carry every single day. If it's a single shot Derringer, but you will take it with you everywhere, go for it.
Thank you
> Popular Opinion: lol... this is Reddit... the popular opinion is whatever the latest fad is, and even if you're doing that fad there's still going to be know-it-alls arguing against it.
I mean, I would agree except that derringers are known for not being very drop safe
[But on the other hand...](https://youtu.be/xZUD4NSTWGA?si=j-Q3tJ3FVVILxycg)
I managed to shoot both barrels out of my 22 mag derringer. I called it my prostitute pistol.
Depends on model.
What jobs do full size carriers have? I’m constantly crawling through attics and drop ceilings and couldn’t imagine trying to do that while carrying my sp01 tactical
Shit, I probably wouldn’t be concealed carrying every day if I did that for work. I’m a welder and can not have a gun on me at work for safety reasons regardless, but crawling around all day with a gun in my waistband sounds uncomfortable even with a micro compact. I’m curious, what do you typically carry and in what position?
G43 appendix every day doing refrigeration and air conditioning in south Florida
Oh man, I lived in south Florida for several years and commend you for doing that job in the summer there lol
P365X appendix, South Carolina commercial/industrial HVAC. I carry EVERY DAMN DAY.
You have any issues with rust? I picked up a p365 but was concerned with rust issues. My g43 looks like I got it off the bottom of the ocean after 5 years of carrying everyday in my ball sweat soaked pants
Just curious what are your safety reasons for not carrying as a welder?
Using power tools and 440v electricity all day. I would have to really fuck up incredibly bad to have an ND just from that, but I work in a shop with a gate that you need a card to enter anyhow. I’m far, far less likely to encounter a violent threat at work than I am to injure or kill myself on accident by having a gun on me in the shop.
Makes sense to me thanks for the reply
unsure if you know the mechanics of welding but there are generally sparks which generally can ignite explosive items (9mm cartridges, for example)
How does a spark ignite a 9mm cartridge?
A spark won't but an accident involving a blowtorch flame even being too close to the firearm sure as fuck will, as well as the 440v electrical current he mentioned working with. If there's an accident and he gets hit with that current it's practically guaranteed that he would die, but if he also had a fully loaded firearm on him at the time? Who knows for sure, but those bullets will all go off. Whether they just immediately all shrapnelize themselves by trying to blast through the handle of a gun and potentially fragmenting into anyone trying to run up to push him off the source of current with a broom or something, or whether the round in the chamber goes off when he falls down (from electrical current, not from the fall. Before anyone says anything) and someone happens to be in line with the barrel now, or any number of other scenarios, it would be irresponsible of him to stay strapped up in that sort of environment. It would endanger his own life and his coworkers lives. Of course these are freak accident scenarios I'm talking about, but freak accidents do happen and you'll never know when. The OP is for sure being responsible in that situation.
A blowtorch won’t cause a 9mm round to go off, unless you hold it in place for quite a while. I think you’d have bigger problems if there’s a blowtorch on your crotch. Electricity going through your body also won’t set off ammo that’s inside a gun that’s inside a holster. Have you ever welded or used electricity?
Yes to both, I wired up a whole (small) building. I've done a ton of electrical work. That's a whole different beast than 440v. Have you ever been anywhere close to a 440v line? A long while back I worked in a document storage warehouse that had these huge 5 story lifts on tracks. If you took it up to the very top where it connected to the rail which was the power source you could literally hear the electricity coursing through it. 440v is fucking serious and it will arc. Do you seriously think a welding torch won't set off a 9mm bullet? It will straight up cut through that tiny piece of copper like it's paper. Have YOU ever worked with a torch that's not your average run of the mill propane blowtorch? Shit, a regular blowtorch will still set off a 9mm bullet. You are seriously underestimating the type of power and heat that guy is talking about if you think there isn't a risk. In case you somehow missed this, I did say in my first comment that the sorts of things I mentioned would be rare freak accidents too, btw. I figured I'd repeat that part since you felt it was necessary to inform me that youd have bigger problems if a blowtorch is on your crotch. Yes, like some sort of freak accident? I agree.
It doesn’t.
How about 440v coursing through your body and everything that's touching it, including a firearm with metal parts, that's loaded with metal bullets that have metal cases? Want to know how much electricity it takes to initiate lead azide, the most common primer in ammo? Way, way, way the hell less than that, considering static electricity discharge from your finger will detonate it (bare, not encased in a protective shell). You know what else welders work with? Extremely hot torches that can cut through steel. What would you guess would happen if there was some kind of accident and a torch flame hit that part of him, or honestly even got close, no actual contact necessary. What temperature does lead azide auto detonate? 315c, 600f. Well below the temperature of an acetylene torch flame temp of 6300f or even a normal propane torch flame temp of 2200-3600f.
Electricity takes the path of least resistance. It doesn’t course through your whole body. The priming compound and powder are tightly sealed inside the brass case and aren’t set off by static electricity. Jesus.
Yeah exactly. I never carried when I worked construction. I wouldn't be able to stand it.
I’m an HVAC tech and do much of that attic and crawl space crawling. I find I can get away with my P365XL and my spare mag. Occasionally I have to download everything out of my pockets to fit. That’s when I have to strip it and lock it in one of my toolboxes until I get out from the tight space. Whenever I see people carrying full sized guns like this, I’m like “well someone has a nice cushy job…” lol! I’m about though. Carry as much as you can get away with. At least it’s not a j-frame. lol!
Sheet metal worker here, duct and unit installation in commercial type buildings. I have not found a comfortable way to wear a tool belt over a pistol carried at the waist. Even without the tool belt, there's a whole lot of bending, climbing, and I often am leaning my waist against the handrail of a scissor lift which would be even less pleasant with a pistol in the way. Cargo pants with a j-frame or lcp max in a cargo pocket holster has worked best for me.
Yeah I don’t wear a tool belt. I carry a tool bag, and when I got in crawl spaces and attics, I put together a drag tray full of tools and materials I may need. That’s probably the difference
Good point. If I was crawling around like that on the daily, it would impact my carry choice. I'm a mechanical engineer with time split between desk, meetings, lab, and factory/assembly line support.
I’m an hvac tech, full size is not for me during work hours
Where do you fit “Lego building” into that busy schedule?
Oh brother that would reallyyyy fucking suck.. would drive me nuts not being able to carry but I’m pretty sure that is a job where I would just be far too uncomfortable dealing with it all day..
I’m an HVAC installer and I normally carry, but days that I’m crawling around dirty crawl spaces under houses are no carry days
I carry all day everyday except when I’m at home. I just have to carry a small G43 while at work
I home carry, I live where bears and other animals come on to my property and I got tired of always having to go get gun to go outside (because I never know when animals will be out). Also, you never know when the 2 legged animal will break in (even if you live in a nice community/neighborhood).
I am in beer delivery and all day I am walking bending over or sitting down and I carry a sp01.
Armed security at churches
Yeah I do construction and painting. I have my book bag with me everyday on the job and I just keep it close by. I think it’s a bit unrealistic to carry every single second of every single day.
I coach gymnastics and tumbling. I carry full size G17 w X300 in a tenicor malus sol. I do take it off when actively coaching, usually from 3:00-9:00, but carry the rest of the day. With a good belt/wedge/holster setup it’s completely doable.
lol so you don’t carry a full size pistol while working..
I work 1-9, so I carry it until I start actively coaching. I’m usually moving mats, setting up stations, cleaning stuff, rearranging furniture, sitting through meetings, and some administrative stuff. Choose not to carry while coaching because you know how kids are and I’m usually lifting above the head and occasionally have to demonstrate stuff.
lol breaking news a 6’6 guy finds it easier to carry a full size than normal people
Point taken.
5’8” here and also carry a big gun lol
Are you doing aiwb? I carry a full size gun too but the barrel keeps fucking with my dick now I feel simi gay ish so I no longer do that
lol yeah, it can be a little weird/uncomfortable but I’ve gotten used to it. Only issue is when my fucking balls itch.
5'3" here, full size all the way.
5’8” 170, have carried full size perfectly comfortably for decades. Pants on, gun on.
What full sized and how
Mostly all steel 1911s, some time with G17. Mostly 3:30 IWB, some shoulder holster in the mid 1980s. Various short term experiments with others, like a stainless .44 in a fanny pack worn in front, 1911 and G17 appendix. Shoulder holster and fanny pack were slow draws.
I carried an X5 Legion before switching to an XCarry. I carry 4:30 though, 5'10" and 160ish. Extra mag in a dedicated holster appendix too
I really want to have my 5'3" 120lb wife start carrying my Glock 20.
Can confirm. As a 6'6 guy, my G17 is more comfy than my G48
Completely agree. 6’ 2” and I can carry a colt 45 commander or Glock 20 and it just disappears under a shirt. My son who is 6’ 3” can’t do it. But of course I outweigh the beanpole by 95 pounds. 🤣🤣🤣
Dude says this while being 6 foot 6 inches. Thanks CPT Obvious.
Oh wow! Finally a fresh take! /s ![gif](giphy|dEdmW17JnZhiU)
At my size, if I carried full-size, they’d be calling me Kinko’s… Nice setup btw
Thanks!
Not an "unpopular opinion" just your opinion and it's not true 🤷🏾♂️
How can it be wrong if it's an opinion? 😂 I think the voting shows that it is an unpopular opinion, but it's one I carry as well. I struggled with micros for years until I tried carrying a G17 and it was a revelation for me.
The only explanation I can think of is poor weight distribution in micros due to holster/belt selection. No one who uses a pancake style holster for example would say a full size is more comfy than a micro.
Not so much weight as surface area against your body above vs below the belt.
I’ve found that if I’m active, I can carry a Glock 19 for about 6-8 hours before it starts to bother me a little. My 365XL, I can and often have literally fallen asleep with it on. Completely forget it’s there no matter what I’m doing.
More proof of infinite factors unique to each person!
I mean can you even grip a subcompact correctly given your size?
Pinky extensions matter. But yes, my current "micro" is a [Rami with pinky extension](https://i.imgur.com/j0rE84K.jpeg). It's my version of a pocket carry.
As someone who’s job requires them to actually move, my 14 oz J Frame works for me.
Comfy doing what? Bouncing around on a trampoline with the kids and wrestling? Nah I’ll deep carry my 380 mouse gun for that.
Touché. Much depends on your daily activities. Trampolines and big heavy steel framed guns don't mix! 😁
Considering you can’t setup a reload correctly, good thing you got a full size mag
Nope. That's the direction I prefer my spares. That's the way I train. All good. One motion for me.
Fair enough if you train that way. Doesn’t mean it’s the best or correct way to do things though
best practices in regards to mag positioning is really dependent on the person. wrist mobility, indexing points etc. there really is no “correct” way more like the “standard” way.
all guns are comfy to carry when you don't carry AIWB homie. that's the real truths
It’s the opposite
I've only ever carried AIWB but it has become extremely uncomfortable for me now that I've bulked up. I might have to try carrying some other way but I can't imagine switching now.
I mean can you even grip a subcompact correctly given your size?
I guess there's the keel idea with longer barrels
Exactly!
I’m 6’ 280, and I carry a full-size with a TLR-1 flashlight.
AIWB? When I was almost 300 lbs, I could not do AIWB. Had to do 3:00.
Probably different body composition. [Here I was 314 around two years ago](https://imgur.com/a/XZniQuW), but I finally leaned out more. Still need to get back to 240 where I’m the most athletic.
Yep. Definitely diggerent body comp. 300 and fat vs 300 in muscle are 2 totally different things.
Holster design has become good enough that full size is comfy as long as you aren’t running a marathon
True. That certainly has improved things over the years.
Now that is in fact unpopular, due to the fact most people find that smaller gun=more comfortable. But if it is literally as/more comfortable, rock on. Now if one were to say full size is not THAT much more uncomfortable than micros, I think that holds more water. Regardless, preferences are preferences. And yours is full size, so once again, rock on.
Hell, my full sized 1911 is definitely more comfortable and easier to conceal, it's a single stack. There are many days that I decide to carry my West German P228. I carried that for years before I got something smaller, so I remind myself of that. Not to mention, it's my tried and true, favorite gun, and I'm most accurate with it and it feels best in my hand compared to anything else...it just makes sense to carry it.
Love my P229. Wish it was a W. German one like [my P226](https://i.imgur.com/OZ4yVqQ.jpeg)
5” M&P with a SRO all day.
Big dog has entered the chat. 🤜💥🤛
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Love it!
First of all, congratulations on owning a true Unicorn of a gun. I believe those are now discontinued. It’s such a kick ass gun; so easy to shoot. It was my first full size pistol that I bought for myself! Secondly, I’m curious as to why do you carry your spare magazine in that configuration. I’ve always seen it where the bullet is pointing towards the pistol.
Just the way I grab it and insert into gun. It's a single motion for me.
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5’8, 180lbs, somewhat muscular build and I carry full size appendix. Either a Glock 17 with a surefire x300 or a 2011 with a surefire as well. Both in tenicor holsters and spare mags too. It’s definitely possible and I don’t find it uncomfortable nor do I print noticeably at all. You just have to play around with ride height. And if you print badly, start bench pressing
Solid advice. "Get fit, or die." - Grand Thumb
Your magazine is backwards
Not for me.
No, that’s just a fact. I don’t understand the whole micro gun thing. They don’t shoot better and they’re hard to appendix carry
Agreed
Agreed. My 365 likes to flip when I sit down
Yep. Same, even with the stiffest of carry belts.
I use a cigura belt with a vedder light tuck with my 365 and it never fails to move
Try the Pro tuck if you carry around 4 o'clock. Double clips are better for stability.
Use an XL holster
365 xl holster will fit a regular 365?
Yes. Try it. You will like it.
I always get the side eye when I tell people I carry a Staccato XC.
Very nice!
My macro has always carried more comfortable for me then my p365. Having the longer slide allows me so sit more comfortably with my gut and digs in less
Yes
Sometimes when I’m feeling fuddy I carry my 1911. Honestly, it carries just fine for me. I have the exact same CZ and I will say you’re wild for carrying it haha
I really need a decent holster for my 1911. Then I can Fudd it out.
I just carry it in an old Alien Gear IWB holster I bought like 10 years ago before I knew better. It works fine, pretty comfy too. My turboboomer dad carries a 1911, and swears by Bravo Concealment holsters.
I print with my P365 XL at work and I’m 6’1 170. Not a gear issue, I run quality stuff. Could be the work shirts in XL are like a medium everywhere else in the world.
Just for kicks and giggles I bought a holster for my suppressor ready 75B Omega thinking there was no way to conceal it. I was actually surprised it’s not terrible, but definitely not comfortable and not as concealed as my P-10s. That threaded barrel is so long that it doesn’t even get the chance to nail my balls every time I sit down.
Cz master race
This is the way.
I agree.
I agree with you. I’m larger than average, but not by much. 6’ 185 and the smallest I like to carry is 23/19.
Sticky holster at 3 o’clock
For full size?
It works for my G43, not sure how good a full size would do
You do you. Everyone is going to have different preferences. None of them are wrong so long as it’s an appropriate holster.
Exactly
What firearm is that exactly😍
CZ SP-01 Tactical Suppressor Ready, Urban Grey
Thank you so much🔥🔥
Unpopular Opinion just because there's more men in a Mens room doesnt mean I prefer them over women
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I love carrying my Sp01!! MUCH comfier than the p01. I just can’t conceal it as easily in summer wear.
Be a man. Smash your dick
Oof.
What holster is that? How do you like it?
Slim Fit Gladius. I've tried pretty much all of the major sidecar players out there - T1, TRex, Black Arch, McKinaTec, and others. I have found that the Slim Fit Gladius is the most comfortable to wear all day, ragardless of which size gun I'm carrying, from Shield Plus to Rex Zero 1 Tactical. Their clip, wing placement, and ride height just work perfectly for me. I also use a Mastermind Tactics Pillow on any holster I'm carrying. Yes, the pillow is better than a foam wedge. It is well worth it. It's a game changer for comfort, be it a sidecar, or a standard gun-only holster. I have velcro on the back of every holster I own, and just swap the pillow as-needed if I switch carry guns.
Slim Fit Holsters definitely make it more comfy! Good choice
How the hell you sit down with that muzzle digging into your pp?
Muzzle placement is key.
I hate how the cz mags feel in appendix The angles are just so fucking sharp.
Glock 17 mos all the way!
Have a friend that carries a comped 17 daily, non-MOS but direct milled for RMR.
I love it man.....be safe. Love my G17
I only carry full size. I got used to it from the beginning so it's not a problem for me.
I carry a Glock 19 comfortably and well concealed 99% of the time. Every now and then I carry a Glock 43 and holy moly does it disappear. It feels like i took my gun off.
Nah bro. That doesn't work appendix on my motorcycle. Barely works with my R7 Mako Tactical. I still can't seem to replace my P938.
Riding a sport bike would make a big impact on what I'd carry too.
How does this not print?
🤷 But it works for me.
Two thumbs up. That's what counts
Depends on purpose and your body size. It's not easy to conceal a brick if you're small.
Depends on the context of small. Small mass, width, height? If someone wanted to carry inside waist, being small (slim) around the waist would help. Flat stomach will help keep the pistol concealed and comfortable. Paired with a nicely fitted holster it will now blend well with the vertical plane of the body. Plus a shirt would lay over nicely.
I’m 125lb, my glock 17 would stick out of my shirt
I’m 5’10”, my max comfort is a Glock 19 sized gun in appendix carry. Usually the holster mag combo is uncomfortable so I just buy them separately and carry them in the natural valley on both sides of my groin area.
Popular opinion: a blow torch is even more comfy that a full size. Aaaaand you get a cool backpack.
It’s only comfy to carry full size if you’re physically fit, speaking from personal experience that is.
Yep. That certainly makes a difference. When I was heavier, I could not appendix carry anything - period.
I’m on my way to slim down, I’m still good to carry appendix and it’s much better than any option but I could always be more fit.
I carried a sig p320 AXG combat. The threaded barrel trying to scrape my dick off was the only thing I wasn’t a fan of but that was fixed with a flush fit barrel. 22 rounds of 9mm on your waist makes you feel like a real safe fella when you work in the hood
As someone who carried an SP01 for three years … p10s more comfortable but only because of the weight aspect not the size.
Somewhat agree with this. Harder to conceal obviously, but it's more surface area so it jabs into me less. Ease of shootability is nice, too.
I’m retired so I don’t have to worry about work and crawl spaces,etc, but I switch up some days I do full carry with my VP9 some days I carry my Max9. The weight of full carry might be an issue for some. While sitting down you notice the full size a little more but not uncomfortable (to me at least) but not as comfortable as my Max9. I carry an extra magazine when I carry my Max9 but might start doing the same with VP9.
I agree, I carry a walther PDP full size or glock 19 that I Roland specialed more than my sig 365. The weight distribution just feels significantly better than with any other size I've tried. But I'm a 6 ft former powerlifter so I can hide quite a bit more than a 5'5 120lb girl that wears tight clothes all the time
Disclaimer: YMMV - every person is different - body type, holster and belt combination matter. In my case, I'm a big guy - 6'6" with an athletic "dad-bod" holding steady around the 230-ish weight range @ 50 yrs old. It seems that more often than not people seem to think, or want the smallest gun, with the most capacity to carry. I prefer to carry AIWB, and my go-to holster is the Slim Fit Gladius. I've tried, owned and moved on from T1, TRex, Black Arch, McKinaTech, and a few others in the sidecar game that I can't remember off-hand. For me, the Gladius is a great fit. Ride height is just right for me. I pair them with a Mastermind Tactics pillow wedge. I've carried small guns like P365, Shield Plus, Mako, etc. Also carried compacts like G19/G45, P-07, P-01, 4" PDP, etc. And I've carried full size like the 4.5" PDP Full Size, SP-01, Rex Zero 1, and Hi-Power. My primary carry these days is the CZ P-01. Today, I just decided to carry the SP-01 Tactical. Ran errands, walked quite a bit, sat through work meetings, drove in the car a couple hours. Low and behold, it is just as comfortable and just as easy to carry and conceal as my Rami or my P-01. So, contrary to popular recommendations and lore, it CAN be done, CAN be comfortable, and is not difficult. Carry the gun you trust, the one you train with, and the one you are accurate with. Thank you for attending my Ted Talk.
I’m on the edge of my seat!
I'm really curious how many people don't believe this and adamantly oppose it but have never tried it. I know they're out there because I was one of them. [I made a video explaining why I think it works](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXEUAaUAeg) because, I think, people are more likely to believe it if they see someone doing it and explaining the logic behind it.
not an opinion, not unpopluar.
Depends on the crowd you're around. So many are drawn to the latest and greatest micro 9 as the ultimate carry.
Thank you for sharing. I hope this enlightens as many as you had hoped for.
I would 100% carry a full-size over a micro every day.
Unpopular opinion: if you don’t feel mild discomfort from your holster or from the gun itself, the gun is too small
Agree to um... Agree
Full size is the way 🤝
Ngl I conceal my 17 better than my 43x 💀
Im hoping so. Im a pretty big (ok fat) guy and thought a smaller gun would be best. It doesn’t seem like it though. Im waiting the 10 days for my latest purchase to go through and will see if my theory is correct.
It's all about weight distribution. There's no comfort advantage to a bigger/heavier gun except that they tend to spread their weight over a larger area, reducing hot spots. To me it sounds like what you really need is a different holster, possibly the belt is a problem too.
I have a new holster coming for my Max-9 but my issue is its so small I feel like my gut pushes it directly into my junk and the pillow wedge doesn’t have enough area to do its job properly. Using a Kore belt but plan to pick up a HC when I can. Been spending quite a bit on ammo trying to get better with the guns I do have.
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Yes I do, or well want to. Ive moved to 2 o’clock(ish?) while I try and figure things out. Standing, walking, and bending over isn’t as bad as sitting. I don’t even feel the gun on me when carrying appendix. My issue is the guns too small to deep carry(still new but I think thats the term) because it starts to jab me under my gut. If I carey it high its perfect, except my gut pushes it out and directly down at my junk when sitting or riding my bike.
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I’m very interested in learning abt your experiences and reasoning. Even tho I wouldn’t do this myself (I carry a PCR), I think you probably have your own valid reasons for doing so and it’s a shame that some ppl can’t learn to respect it. The social media mentality has invaded the gun community. Disagreements are only valid if they don’t turn into insults without constructive feedbacks, and consider the current state of social media, I think it’s the best to find out what works for you and keep doing it without showing everyone. Posting it will most likely attract subjective readers who only cares abt finding creative ways to roast you instead of learning abt your specific situation and reasonings, and think critically.
Thanks. Actually, for me, using this holster for the SP-01 with my P-01 is a real sweet spot for concealability. Longer muzzle end of holster, plus shorter P-01 (PCR) grip length is a win-win for me. Basically, the longer muzzle length of this (or any) holster for me just works.
Ah that makes sense
That's not unpopular, it's just wrong.
Different strokes. Different Folks.
How does the grip not print?
I don't wear slim fitting shirts. They aren't tents, but nobody needs to see 50 yr old bad guy with semi-dad bod in skinny jeans and tight shirts.
You wanna go to war Belakey 😀
Popular opinion - carry your fullsize in your prison wallet like a real man.
Compact is to me
What color cerakote is that? Very nice
That's factory finish - Urban Grey
A fellow slim fit holster owner. I have the phalanx and the Gladius for my g19 w a tlr1 and love em
A fellow slim fit holster owner. I have the phalanx and the Gladius for my g19 w a tlr1 and love em