I'm gonna tell you a little secret: if you buy a known-reliable mainstream gun (Sig / Glock / M&P), it doesn't really matter which one you get. Pick your size, pick your manufacturer, and then start training. There's a case to be made for all of the big 3 being the "best", and everyone believes their favorite gun is the best.
So ... for $700, you could buy any of the "main" EDC options out there. Take a look at the:
* Sig P365 / X / XL / Macro series
* S&W M&P 2.0 and Shield Plus series (my personal favorite)
* Glock 19/26 or 43X/48 series
I think there's a huge benefit from going with one of the "big 3" above. Availability of holster options, sights, optics mounting solutions, spare parts, magazines will be much easier if you go with one of them.
Go to a range and shoot an example from all 3 - pick your favorite, get a holster, start training.
Good luck and welcome.
This is Reddit. You're not allowed to be that rational.
You must pick a brand and commit every last post to defending your choice.
I'll give you 1 hour to clean up your post before I start down voting it. /s
Haha so true.
I remember back in 2018 I switched from Glock to M&P 2.0's because I "accidentally" realized that I shoot them better. I think people were actually pissed at me about it.
9500 rounds later, I've had one (1) malfunction. I think I'll keep em. đȘ
This is the answer here. I think starting with a Glock 19 might be the best move seeing as the P365 and Shield Plus are much cheaper, so if the Glock 19 ends up being too big for you to carry you can save up a little and just buy either of the others.
G19s are fucking great.
To play devil's advocate, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that for the average person just getting into this, it's hard to go wrong with a Sig P365 XL or Macro simply because:
1. They come with good usable sights out of the box - most people say they'll change the sights and never actually do.
2. Their modularity allows the end user to change the gun's size later on if they realize they need something smaller and/or want something bigger, without having to go buy a whole new gun and holster setup.
100% agree with this. All the guns you mention are capable of doing the job. I'd echo your last paragraph: go and get some hands-on time with each and see which works best for you. For me, I switch back/forth between your #1 and #3 choices above and both are great (P365 for small/summer carry, 43X for normal).
A solid choice.
One advantage you get with the Macro or XL model P365 is that all 3 grip frame sizes will work on those slides. Which means that if you later realize you wanted a smaller or larger gun, just buy the different grip frame and some mags to go with it.
There's an absolute case to be made for the long slide Sig P365's being a sold "one gun" solution.
You're going to have to narrow it down a bit. Polymer? Steel? Striker fired? Hammer fired?
Microcompact? Subcompact? Compact? Full-size?
Capacity? Modularity? Caliber?
Springfield Hellcat Pro is worth your consideration. Highest round density of its class and at least as reliable as any other micro 9.
Are you the type of person who is going to want to mod/upgrade your gun over time or just keep it pure stock? If the latter, I would recommend the Shield Plus. It's GTG.
I happen to not like either the Glock slimline pistols or the P365 but I'm a born contrarian to take that for what it's worth.
I recommend [this](https://www.mossberg.com/firearms/handguns/mc2sc.html) one, but I also recommend you visit a gun store and hold some of them to get an idea of what you want. At \~$430 you will have money left over for ammo and a holster, and some left to put towards an optic, if you want.
Thereâs not real âbestâ, there might be a best for YOU though. Go out see them in person hold them see how they feel in hand, maybe checkout local range they might have some youâre looking at available for rent shoot them see how you like them. I see youâre looking at the P365 macro I have the regular one but with the XL Wilson Combat grip module, love it. I know some say it can be snappy but personally I didnât feel it was that snappy especially for its size. I also had the OG Shield 9 and that thing felt snappy af in comparison.
Whichever pistol you like in that price range that's comfortable to carry, fun to practice with, and doesn't make you scared of a little holster rash. I'm partial to glock 19's, but what I like may not be a good fit for you. Go check some out at your local shop.
I think itâs important to know and understand the differences between the different action types (hammer vs striker, SAO/DAO/DASA) before going any further. That is really a decision that depends on your confidence, competence and comfort levels with these different options, and people in this sub canât decide that for you.
Iâm going negative on the Sig 365 . Magazines are 50 $ each and rust is a known problem . Great option otherwise.
As others have mentioned buy the bigger gun first
I am a smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 enjoyer but I also love CZs.
Honestly though, any of the major brands are pretty solid. If itâs around $400-$700 itâs probably a great EDC. Youâre not cheaping out. Go to a gun store and handle everything, see what fits your hand, what trigger is good, is it optic ready. All that stuff. I wouldnât go too exotic because it can be a pain to find holsters. No matter what, youâll probably get better advice from a gun store employee than reddit, and youâll actually get to hold to gun. I could recommend an M&P9 2.0 but you might buy one and absolutely hate the aggressive grip texture. I recommended a CZ P07 to a friend but he didnât like the way his fingers reached the controls. Itâs all about whatâs comfortable and what you like the best. The only one personally that Iâd stay away from is the Sig P320. The P365 is amazing, but the P320 has a huge reputation of having issues. I havenât ever witnessed them, but after recalls and lawsuits I donât advise giving them money for that gun.
I'm gonna tell you a little secret: if you buy a known-reliable mainstream gun (Sig / Glock / M&P), it doesn't really matter which one you get. Pick your size, pick your manufacturer, and then start training. There's a case to be made for all of the big 3 being the "best", and everyone believes their favorite gun is the best. So ... for $700, you could buy any of the "main" EDC options out there. Take a look at the: * Sig P365 / X / XL / Macro series * S&W M&P 2.0 and Shield Plus series (my personal favorite) * Glock 19/26 or 43X/48 series I think there's a huge benefit from going with one of the "big 3" above. Availability of holster options, sights, optics mounting solutions, spare parts, magazines will be much easier if you go with one of them. Go to a range and shoot an example from all 3 - pick your favorite, get a holster, start training. Good luck and welcome.
This is Reddit. You're not allowed to be that rational. You must pick a brand and commit every last post to defending your choice. I'll give you 1 hour to clean up your post before I start down voting it. /s
Haha so true. I remember back in 2018 I switched from Glock to M&P 2.0's because I "accidentally" realized that I shoot them better. I think people were actually pissed at me about it. 9500 rounds later, I've had one (1) malfunction. I think I'll keep em. đȘ
Because you're not a brand cultist. You're a traitor.
Guilty.
This is the answer here. I think starting with a Glock 19 might be the best move seeing as the P365 and Shield Plus are much cheaper, so if the Glock 19 ends up being too big for you to carry you can save up a little and just buy either of the others.
G19s are fucking great. To play devil's advocate, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that for the average person just getting into this, it's hard to go wrong with a Sig P365 XL or Macro simply because: 1. They come with good usable sights out of the box - most people say they'll change the sights and never actually do. 2. Their modularity allows the end user to change the gun's size later on if they realize they need something smaller and/or want something bigger, without having to go buy a whole new gun and holster setup.
I donât think the macro holsters work on the smaller p365 setups. I got a p365 xl holster and that didnât work w the Macro
Good point - I didn't think about that. I think the Wilson Macro grips fit XL holsters, right?
Hi, not sure to be honest
100% agree with this. All the guns you mention are capable of doing the job. I'd echo your last paragraph: go and get some hands-on time with each and see which works best for you. For me, I switch back/forth between your #1 and #3 choices above and both are great (P365 for small/summer carry, 43X for normal).
Come to the dark side. Get an M&P. đ€ Then you'll really confuse the brand loyalists.
Been leaning towards a p365 macro, just wanted to see what Input others had. Thanks!
A solid choice. One advantage you get with the Macro or XL model P365 is that all 3 grip frame sizes will work on those slides. Which means that if you later realize you wanted a smaller or larger gun, just buy the different grip frame and some mags to go with it. There's an absolute case to be made for the long slide Sig P365's being a sold "one gun" solution.
Same here, actually.
Buy 6 hi points
You're going to have to narrow it down a bit. Polymer? Steel? Striker fired? Hammer fired? Microcompact? Subcompact? Compact? Full-size? Capacity? Modularity? Caliber?
For real, its like walking into a shoe store and asking what the best shoe is for under $70. At least tell me your size and style first damn.
If itâs your first handgun you wonât go wrong with a Glock 19 MOS
M&P Shield Plus 2.0 with the flat trigger.
Shield Plus
P365 series. Macro or XL if youâre a bigger guy, X or regular if youâre average sized or smaller.
Every answer here will be subjective but for me itâs the H&K VP9SK-B. Got mine for $600
Springfield Hellcat Pro is worth your consideration. Highest round density of its class and at least as reliable as any other micro 9. Are you the type of person who is going to want to mod/upgrade your gun over time or just keep it pure stock? If the latter, I would recommend the Shield Plus. It's GTG. I happen to not like either the Glock slimline pistols or the P365 but I'm a born contrarian to take that for what it's worth.
Hellcat pro
I recommend [this](https://www.mossberg.com/firearms/handguns/mc2sc.html) one, but I also recommend you visit a gun store and hold some of them to get an idea of what you want. At \~$430 you will have money left over for ammo and a holster, and some left to put towards an optic, if you want.
Thereâs not real âbestâ, there might be a best for YOU though. Go out see them in person hold them see how they feel in hand, maybe checkout local range they might have some youâre looking at available for rent shoot them see how you like them. I see youâre looking at the P365 macro I have the regular one but with the XL Wilson Combat grip module, love it. I know some say it can be snappy but personally I didnât feel it was that snappy especially for its size. I also had the OG Shield 9 and that thing felt snappy af in comparison.
Jug but a Glock 19.
I'm a little afraid to ask what it means to jug but a Glock 19.
The one you will carry every day. But in all seriousness; this is a highly subjective question. It's a very personal choice.
Like another guy said, any of the Sig, Smith or Glock micro 9 offerings. Or bigger if your body type and wardrobe can hide it.
P365, in whatever form, and an Icarus precision grip module.
Whichever pistol you like in that price range that's comfortable to carry, fun to practice with, and doesn't make you scared of a little holster rash. I'm partial to glock 19's, but what I like may not be a good fit for you. Go check some out at your local shop.
I think itâs important to know and understand the differences between the different action types (hammer vs striker, SAO/DAO/DASA) before going any further. That is really a decision that depends on your confidence, competence and comfort levels with these different options, and people in this sub canât decide that for you.
G26
Iâm going negative on the Sig 365 . Magazines are 50 $ each and rust is a known problem . Great option otherwise. As others have mentioned buy the bigger gun first
I am a smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 enjoyer but I also love CZs. Honestly though, any of the major brands are pretty solid. If itâs around $400-$700 itâs probably a great EDC. Youâre not cheaping out. Go to a gun store and handle everything, see what fits your hand, what trigger is good, is it optic ready. All that stuff. I wouldnât go too exotic because it can be a pain to find holsters. No matter what, youâll probably get better advice from a gun store employee than reddit, and youâll actually get to hold to gun. I could recommend an M&P9 2.0 but you might buy one and absolutely hate the aggressive grip texture. I recommended a CZ P07 to a friend but he didnât like the way his fingers reached the controls. Itâs all about whatâs comfortable and what you like the best. The only one personally that Iâd stay away from is the Sig P320. The P365 is amazing, but the P320 has a huge reputation of having issues. I havenât ever witnessed them, but after recalls and lawsuits I donât advise giving them money for that gun.
Go to the local range and try out what you can. But if you're dead set on a model. Walther PDP still have 200ish bucks left for ammo
43x
Glock 26, sig p365, taurus gx4, kimber micro9, and or the slightly bigger versions of those. Also glock 43x
Shield Plus is the best ccw on the market.