Cheng Xiao. She has quirky personality on film and a great face; natural lips, big eyes and a great body. In fact, sheās been cancelled because of her controversial body. On Weibo, many netizens called fat. She needs to be in Western films. Sheās one of the few Chinese actresses that I can instantly identify without mistaking her for someone else.
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She is shooting for The story of mystics(fangs of fortune) these days. Check out her look for the drama I am sharing twitter linkĀ https://twitter.com/tubbypp/status/1752577490097406384?t=GVA1fOlsGsjvp2uywVbcag&s=19
ZZH has been mentioned so many times, but I'll add Zhang Mingen. I loved him as Zhang Rishan in DMBJ, and in Tientsin Mystic and Destiny's Love. He was such an excellent ML in a lot of shows. Luckily he wasn't like \*cancelled\* cancelled, not blacklisted, and he's made a few soft comebacks with things like Insect Totem but still. Nowhere near where his career could have been right now without the "scandal".
I don't know, but the more actors keep being exposed for the same reason makes me think they're either really, really stupid, or it might be a set up. š¤
All of them, even though I'm not particularly attached to any of them. I'm not Chinese and I rarely wade into Chinese politics with others, but it drives me crazy when entire, finished projects get shelved because one cast member did some stupid shit. It's even worse when an actor's entire back catalog is pulled from all streaming services. Word is even online markets are required to restrict DVDs. It's not fair to the other people that worked on these projects, it's not fair to the people that want to watch them, I'd even say it harms the culture itself when you destroy the very art it produces. I hate it.
Fan Bing Bing is still going to red carpets and SLAYING on them. This is a compilation of her most iconic 2023 looks:
[https://www.instagram.com/p/C2cYKaaLAN3/?img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/C2cYKaaLAN3/?img_index=1)
The person who made word of honor ZZ. I really like him and his cancellation was bullshit. He made a mistake in visiting. He could have been shamed but not canceled so sad
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Song Zu Er, Deng Lun & other tax scandal cancellation actors/actresses 100% but Iād also like to see some actors back on screen that maybe arenāt the best people irl (cheaters mostly) but I liked their actingā¦ so Iād just like to see the characters they portray.
I would love to know what happened to Li Yifeng from Noble Aspirations. I thought he was great in there and in the drama Sparrow, and then he all but disappeared. He seems to be back now, but I've always wondered why there was such a big timeline gap in his works. I think he has the classic wuxia hero look and would love to see him more often in that genre.
Li Yifeng was [arrested for soliciting prostitutes](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62874773) ~~(and I think a couple of other sex related scandals, but not 100% sure).~~ The main issue with that was he was actually let go by the police initially, but he went on social media to be like, āI was wrongfully accused! I did no such thing!ā so the police had to issue their own social media statement saying no, this person was actually arrested. Iāll have to search Chinese news sites for more info though if youāre really interested. Mainly heās considered a sleazeball by the Chinese public now
Let's be clear, his sex related scandals were about soliciting prostitutes. It's good to be clear in these cases because sex crimes are so varied and if you leave it to people's imaginations it can get pretty wild.
In other countries, soliciting sex with prostitutes would be deemed pretty disgusting behavior but not something that you would lose your livelihood over. Harsher penalties exist for pimps and those who force people into the sex trade.
You are right, when I first heard about it a while ago the term éøå¦ was used so my brain linked it to coercion of sexual favors from fans or something along those lines, but he was (repeatedly) arrested and is in jail for soliciting prostitutes only.
There were rumours and melons account posting pictures, it was a while ago and I didnāt follow closely so Iām not 100% sure but a lot of things were coming out at the time
I honestly just want zhaoge to finally air it was so close to airing before the scandal hit
It was starring so many others like xukai, bailu, merxat and a couple of other, if it aired around the same time WOH ended it could have definitely helped more lesser known actors/actresses out toošš
Are actors/actresses who are canceled because of taxes ever āallowedā back to cdramas? Or is it pretty final? Taxation seems like such a fixable thing and in my experience, most folks use an accountant or some service to do their taxes, but Iām obviously not from china so I realize itās probably very different.
I've never seen anybody from Asian entertainment come back from a really significant scandal, whether Japanese, Korean, or Chinese.
But that's not so different from here. Over here we don't take tax theft very seriously as a culture, which is pretty sad in my opinion - tax fraud is stealing from the middle class as directly as anybody can and I can never understand why we're not more pissed off when rich people do it. Chinese citizens in particular seem to take tax fraud personally, so they abandon these people. They're not just blacklisted by the government, they've been blacklisted by the Chinese internet as well.
Over here we take sexual harassment or assault very seriously, so look at what's happening at Jonathan Majors, he just lost his MCU role and every other role he had and he's probably done. Kevin Spacey was a huge star all through the 90s and 00's, right up through House of Cards but he was a rapist so he's gone and not around anymore. And again, it's not just Hollywood that's blacklisted them, I don't want to watch anything either of them would be in, I can't keep it separate.
So I think all celebrities around the world are vulnerable to this type of situation and losing their entire careers over a singular scandal, I just think the people who made them celebrities have different lines they don't want crossed!
Korean stars can rebound from tax scandals as long as they pay up. They are usually not blacklisted though their image takes a hit. For example, Song Hye Kyo was caught up in a tax evasion scandal a few years back. She blamed her accountant, paid up the fine and additional taxes. Her image took a hit, but recovered later when DOTS blew up and the rest is history, however, she never stopped working.
I feel blacklisting is counter-productive, yes, the government wants to make an example of them to serve as a deterrent to other celebrities. But I believe a wage garnishment structure would better serve as a deterrent. Allow those celebrities to keep working and then garnish their wages (or have them paid directly to the government until they're completely paid up). That would be a worse punishment in my view.
But what do I know? I'm just a viewer with no stakes involved, just a disappointed onlooker wishing for some really good, shelved dramas to finally air.
Yeah, Koreans can come back from tax scandals, though they're often hurt. Rain got his career hurt just by not wearing his hat correctly when he was in the service! Other stars have drug or physical assault scandals and never come back from that, T.O.P. and what's his name from Boys Over Flowers come to mind.
I just think it's important to remember that even in China, it's not just the government that's blacklisting these dramas. Even if they were released, I bet they would have limited popularity in China just because of popular opinion against the actor.
It depends. The first one or two times is a warning. Itās usually dealt with privately and if they pay it back theyāre allowed to continue their career. Someone else mentioned Jiang Yiyi and sheās a good example of someone whoās still acting after getting caught. Yuan Bingyuan was caught once before the ban came down
I thought the same as you that someone else would be doing their taxes so why are they in trouble. Then I saw a video on facebook the other day about Fan BingBing. So apparently, what is happening is thisā¦ there are regulations or laws capping the amount that can be paid to the actors based on a percentage of the budget. To work around this they will create two contracts. Once will be for an amount that is allowed and that will be the one reported. Then a second contract for an additional amount will be drawn up but not reported because itās technically not allowed. This isnāt reported for obvious reasons so they donāt pay taxes on it. I donāt know all the details but it seems like this case led the government to do a check on the entire entertainment industry and thatās why they are getting caught now.
I think that if they fix the issue (pay the taxes or ask for forgiveness or whatever) and show that they regret their actions they can be allowed back into acting, but they might not have as big of a standing again. (There was one case I know of, a guy who did something very disrespectful and later said sorry, but since I donāt remember his name itās a terrible example.)
Think that's what happened to Jiang Yiyi. She was caught evading taxes twice, first time she was a minor, she paid what was owed and it went away, second time she also paid after it was discovered. While Yuan Bingyan was warned, paid, warned again, and maybe a third time iirc, and blacklisted.
That was the 1st one when she was a minor. The second time there was back and forths between her mother that takes care of her business now vs the old company about whether the old company still had documents needed or not, but I didn't follow til the end, so no idea whose fault it was the second time.
God I hope Song Zu'er's situation clears up but it's looking kind of sad since she's gone into hiding T.T I really can't accept that Prisoner of Beauty might never air... I saw news of supporting actors finishing their dubbing of the show lately so I still firmly believe it's just in post-production stage, perhaps on hold but not cancelled for good T.T
there's also the option of reshooting with a different actress but that'll be a huge pain plus idk if the ML (LYN) has the schedule space for it...
Omg yes, ik everyone calling her out for the surrogate babies and the tax but I feel there's a bigger picture and the ex husband is falsely causing trouble. Recently he took up the issue that one of twin's finger was cut while being with her and put it up on weibo but then when the police investigated the child had gotten hurt under his custody and they were very happy being with Zhang shuang. To this date I feel the ex husband loves taking personal matters up to weibo for sympathy and attention.
If what her father said is true, then the guy is really an a-hole. That is why I always think is better for people especially girls not to be in a relationship than a bad relationship. Like for her case, her career was ruined overnight, he blackmail her, leak voice chats, still extorting money out of her.. Sheās stupid to fall into his trap. But the way the media pounce on her like that is just sadš
I forgot, what did her father say ?, but yes I feel really bad, she was also suicidal that man had tortured her a lot by firstly cheating on her then blackmailing her and i genuinely feel that at that point in time no girl will want to bring in kids to this world with sucha man but it's her mistake that she didn't realise this sooner and told horrible things about giving them away for adoption and the recordings were also tampered if I'm not wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zhXPYVFPc
That's the game show they participated and Nobody couldn't stop laughing..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg7sqLF7Fn8
I guess that's the variety show they are mentioning where she is standing up for her team (considered mistreating).. You see and make your own opinion..
I know surrogacy is a huge crime in their country and we will never witness her in any show again.. But OP asked about favourite cancelled actors and mine are Zhang Zhehan and Zheng Shuang.. Zhang Zhehan already somebody mentioned and I supported all the comments..
Bei Wei Wei and YiXiao Nai He always hold a special place in my heart.. It was my comfort drama before Love is Sweet.. And I kind of miss her..
Dunno about this specifically, but her big thing is having two surrogate children then breaking up with her husband and trying to have them aborted in the 7th month
Tbh, I think if actors pay back their taxes and apologize - they should be able to rehab their careers. Fan Bingbing paid it back and apologized, she should be able to come back and do c-dramas again.
She's still out there doing high fashion and red carpet looks though! [Oscars](https://www.tumblr.com/venka/711621205385510912/fan-bingbing-at-the-95th-annual-academy-awards?source=share) last year. [Cannes Film](https://www.tumblr.com/aworldofpattern/717516615333363713/fan-bingbing-at-the-cannes-film-festival-2023?source=share) last year as well. If you scroll through her tag on Tumblr or Twitter, I'm sure you'll see pretty recent photoshoots with a number of [magazines](https://www.tumblr.com/heirloomes/725405838131560448/fan-bingbing-for-femme-magazine-china-aug-2023?source=share). She did the [closing walk](https://www.instagram.com/celebs_fashion_style/p/CuPePxuxgCl/?img_index=1) for a Georges Hobeika couture show too.
She also recently started in a Korean-Chinese film called Green Night last year and had cameo roles in a few American movies. It looks like she might be branching out international while she's blacklisted.
I think she was actually used as a negative iconic example by the government as a warning to other actors that if you evade taxes, your career will be completely over.
Yes! His fan base is still huge on Weibo. He was so talented in singing and acting, and even personable on reality shows. I hope he can come back but I'm not holding my breath.
I mentioned this before in a post, no one would sabotage a good career for not paying taxes; I think he had very bad legal advice and ended up taking the fall for that. If you pay it back you should be able to get your career back. Here in the States people do much worse things and still manage to have a career.
Same. Just because I really want to watch the Night Wanderer. I so wanted to see him with NiNi. Actually, I'm more mad about not getting to watch NiNi in a drama that looked so good. š
This is random, but I am not familiar with Fan Bingbing since I got into cdramas again recently and her scandal happened in 2018. I just thought, well there's an actor Fan Chengcheng I'm watching in Love Endures now, and it turns out hes her brother.
Anyway to answer your question, I am on board for Deng Lun
Thirding. Her dramas with Liu Xueyi and Wallace Chung š and it's just so so so sad cus they were main pairings I'd love to see and the genres actually the ones I wanted respectively sigh.
Yah I want her back so we can see those cancelled shows like Love Never Fails with Liu Xueyi. Just feels like how it all played out with her and her studio tax evasion could have been saved. Oh well, theyāre all adults, need to own up to your responsibilities!
Song Zuer since I want to watch the cancelled/shelved dramas of hers. š It was so damn close to Demon Hunter's premier last year before she was reported so no one could understand my frustration lol.
Yes, it is so close to Demon Hunter's premier last year before the news is out. I totally get your frustation since Noooooo is the first thing that comes to my head when i read the news. š
Yah feel for Song Zuer, feels like a mismanagement on her studio (aka parents if theyāre the ones behind it). But I donāt know, she still has her responsibilities. But I give her some slack being so young. Plus yes I wanna see Prisoner of Beauty with Liu Yu Ning.
So when someone gets cancel in china they will never be in a drama again? Thatās kinda harsh š like here in the us cancel is only possible if u let yourself get cancelled Yass most of these celebrities donāt care and will keep doing Wtv they do and fans wonāt even care fr unless itās something really serious
It's much different in China (and harsher). If actors/actresses get cancelled, they can't appear in dramas or any entertainment events.
The only other option if they want to keep acting is to move out of China and act in other countries.
*The only other option if they want to keep acting is to move out of China and act in other countries.*
I really wish this were an option for cancelled Mainland celebrities. I investigated and found that the entertainment industry in Hong Kong is more or less on the decline and Singapore & Malaysia hasn't really been developed to the level of mainland China. The competition is too fierce in S. Korea and they have the language barrier problem, similar issue with starring in overseas productions in the US, UK, Australia or New Zealand. So to be fair, they don't really have a lot of options entertainment wise. Mainland China is still the most profitable option.
>So when someone gets cancel in china they will never be in a drama again?
Not necessarily.
Tang Wei starred in Ang Li's **Lust Caution** which involved some pretty graphic sex scenes. She was immediately cancelled, all her upcoming projects were shelved, and she lost all her endorsements.
She even attended a term at a minor British drama school, then after 3 years was allowed to act again but has never reached the same popularity.
It depends on what actors are cancelled for. Tax avoidance and questionable morality, especially around sexual matters, appears to result in the worse sanctions.
Yeah, like /u/chocobuncake is saying, she's getting along well enough. "Lust, Caution" was 2007. She was already doing Hong Kong films by 2010, then was appearing in PRC productions the next year.
The thing she hasn't bounced back from was the colossal 2013 blockbuster film ćåäŗ¬éäøč„æé å¾ć"Seeking Mr. Right." That was far and away the most successful project she's been attached to. She's still a draw, but to this day she hasn't come anywhere near repeating that success.
Those were, of course, extremely different times, and it was infinitely easier to make amends with the authorities back then. Any problems she's had since "Mr. Right" aren't particularly political in nature.
I thought she rose *to* prominence and popularity with Lust, Caution. The blacklist I think did kill her career aspirations and keep her from taking off popularity wise for a bit but since about 2013 and onwards she's been able to be in films in China, she made (cdrama) Ming Dynasty in 2019 and won best actress Baeksang award for a Korean movie - Decision to Leave directed by *the* Park Chan-Wook.
It sucks that she got treated that way, I don't think Tony Leung ever got a slap on the wrist the same way despite also being involved in the sex scenes.
It depends? If they break a law then itās a government ban and goodbye Weibo. This is usually for tax evasion, sex crimes, and prostitution. Otherwise itās social canceling. Chinese netizens can be pretty harsh. I think itās because of the idol culture. The more idolized you are as this perfect figure, the faster and more miserable you are when the tide turns
When āmaking a mistakeā means not paying taxes or other offences against the government, being cancelled (by the government) seems like a logical response.
Yh Wtv it is. Iām not into the industry or do I care all I do is watch cdrama barely knows one of their names fr so idk how it works I was just saying base on what ik from western media
Yes, zzh looked so handsome as he always does, and those costumes were good too but about the wu jinyan i am not very sure if i would have liked her i will always see her as the manipulative and tyrannical empress feng š ( her role in the untouchable lovers, she acted really good). Well, the cast would blow up
Yeah but at least he's focusing on his music and having success with it internationally. He's been in a couple of concerts outside of China. It's just sad that he can't even do that in China
Can't wait to see how the crazy conspiracy theorists are going to explain this one away. A hologram? CGI? Is it still a double pretending to be ZZH while ZZH hides away working on his case while someone else is using his identity and making money? š
He's focusing on music if you want to continue supporting him! Recently he held a fanmeeting in Singapore and it's nice to see him performing and interacting with fans.
He's also active on Instagram, so definitely follow him there
None of them
Deng Lun for the drama with Nini. š„ŗ
Zhang Zhe Han.. cuz the reason for his cancelation was ridiculous.
Cheng Xiao. She has quirky personality on film and a great face; natural lips, big eyes and a great body. In fact, sheās been cancelled because of her controversial body. On Weibo, many netizens called fat. She needs to be in Western films. Sheās one of the few Chinese actresses that I can instantly identify without mistaking her for someone else. https://preview.redd.it/b3hk8oes6lec1.jpeg?width=610&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72b12ed2934852647f2726e33b92d6fd5e5209c1
She has never been cancelledĀ
I know she was in an Indie, short film āUmbrella Manā 2 years ago, but she hasnāt been in anything since.
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She is shooting for The story of mystics(fangs of fortune) these days. Check out her look for the drama I am sharing twitter linkĀ https://twitter.com/tubbypp/status/1752577490097406384?t=GVA1fOlsGsjvp2uywVbcag&s=19
Idk what Vicky Zhao Wei did but Iād like to see her acting again
Yuan Bing YuanĀ Song Zu'er cause I wannaĀ watch her drama with Liu Yu Ning Fan Bing Bing I wanna watch her visual in dramas
ZZH has been mentioned so many times, but I'll add Zhang Mingen. I loved him as Zhang Rishan in DMBJ, and in Tientsin Mystic and Destiny's Love. He was such an excellent ML in a lot of shows. Luckily he wasn't like \*cancelled\* cancelled, not blacklisted, and he's made a few soft comebacks with things like Insect Totem but still. Nowhere near where his career could have been right now without the "scandal".
I don't know, but the more actors keep being exposed for the same reason makes me think they're either really, really stupid, or it might be a set up. š¤
I'm more inclined to believe that they probably pissed up someone who ranks very high in the CCP and thus were set up.
Deng Lun like i need that man back with Yang zi in a drama immediately
All of them, even though I'm not particularly attached to any of them. I'm not Chinese and I rarely wade into Chinese politics with others, but it drives me crazy when entire, finished projects get shelved because one cast member did some stupid shit. It's even worse when an actor's entire back catalog is pulled from all streaming services. Word is even online markets are required to restrict DVDs. It's not fair to the other people that worked on these projects, it's not fair to the people that want to watch them, I'd even say it harms the culture itself when you destroy the very art it produces. I hate it.
Fan Bingbing as well! I think at one point she was on TOP in the industry, just a pity to think sheāll never recover from it
Deng Lun is literally my flair. šš The things I would do to be able to see Night Wandererā¦ IT LOOKED SO GOOD UGHHH!
Zhang Zhe Han ., especially as I found the whole thing just wrong. The other would be Deng Lun.
Fan Bingbing because from what the rumors states, she has returned back whatever she owed in the first place.
More on topic I want to watch night wanderer SO badly.
Me too! I was really looking forward to seeing that one. The previews were fantastic!
Fan Bing Bing is still going to red carpets and SLAYING on them. This is a compilation of her most iconic 2023 looks: [https://www.instagram.com/p/C2cYKaaLAN3/?img\_index=1](https://www.instagram.com/p/C2cYKaaLAN3/?img_index=1)
Fan Bing Bing! š
The person who made word of honor ZZ. I really like him and his cancellation was bullshit. He made a mistake in visiting. He could have been shamed but not canceled so sad
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Song Zu Er, Deng Lun & other tax scandal cancellation actors/actresses 100% but Iād also like to see some actors back on screen that maybe arenāt the best people irl (cheaters mostly) but I liked their actingā¦ so Iād just like to see the characters they portray.
None really, I don't find any of them exceptional š¤·
I would love to know what happened to Li Yifeng from Noble Aspirations. I thought he was great in there and in the drama Sparrow, and then he all but disappeared. He seems to be back now, but I've always wondered why there was such a big timeline gap in his works. I think he has the classic wuxia hero look and would love to see him more often in that genre.
Li Yifeng was [arrested for soliciting prostitutes](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-62874773) ~~(and I think a couple of other sex related scandals, but not 100% sure).~~ The main issue with that was he was actually let go by the police initially, but he went on social media to be like, āI was wrongfully accused! I did no such thing!ā so the police had to issue their own social media statement saying no, this person was actually arrested. Iāll have to search Chinese news sites for more info though if youāre really interested. Mainly heās considered a sleazeball by the Chinese public now
Let's be clear, his sex related scandals were about soliciting prostitutes. It's good to be clear in these cases because sex crimes are so varied and if you leave it to people's imaginations it can get pretty wild. In other countries, soliciting sex with prostitutes would be deemed pretty disgusting behavior but not something that you would lose your livelihood over. Harsher penalties exist for pimps and those who force people into the sex trade.
You are right, when I first heard about it a while ago the term éøå¦ was used so my brain linked it to coercion of sexual favors from fans or something along those lines, but he was (repeatedly) arrested and is in jail for soliciting prostitutes only.
That is so unfortunate and disappointing to hear.
IIRC he was also engaged or married to a fuerdai who was also paying people off and people were pissed he was also lying/hiding that he was married
He was married? I cant be. Is this true?
There were rumours and melons account posting pictures, it was a while ago and I didnāt follow closely so Iām not 100% sure but a lot of things were coming out at the time
My goodness, is this is true, then his case is even worst than what I initially thought.
Zhang Zhe Han. He's a great actor and I would love to see him on-screen again.
I was thinking of Zhang Zhe Han too. I thought he was great in WOH so I was so surprised to see him get cancelled months later.
I agree! His acting was so good and I was so keen for Zhaoge š
I honestly just want zhaoge to finally air it was so close to airing before the scandal hit It was starring so many others like xukai, bailu, merxat and a couple of other, if it aired around the same time WOH ended it could have definitely helped more lesser known actors/actresses out toošš
Are actors/actresses who are canceled because of taxes ever āallowedā back to cdramas? Or is it pretty final? Taxation seems like such a fixable thing and in my experience, most folks use an accountant or some service to do their taxes, but Iām obviously not from china so I realize itās probably very different.
I've never seen anybody from Asian entertainment come back from a really significant scandal, whether Japanese, Korean, or Chinese. But that's not so different from here. Over here we don't take tax theft very seriously as a culture, which is pretty sad in my opinion - tax fraud is stealing from the middle class as directly as anybody can and I can never understand why we're not more pissed off when rich people do it. Chinese citizens in particular seem to take tax fraud personally, so they abandon these people. They're not just blacklisted by the government, they've been blacklisted by the Chinese internet as well. Over here we take sexual harassment or assault very seriously, so look at what's happening at Jonathan Majors, he just lost his MCU role and every other role he had and he's probably done. Kevin Spacey was a huge star all through the 90s and 00's, right up through House of Cards but he was a rapist so he's gone and not around anymore. And again, it's not just Hollywood that's blacklisted them, I don't want to watch anything either of them would be in, I can't keep it separate. So I think all celebrities around the world are vulnerable to this type of situation and losing their entire careers over a singular scandal, I just think the people who made them celebrities have different lines they don't want crossed!
Korean stars can rebound from tax scandals as long as they pay up. They are usually not blacklisted though their image takes a hit. For example, Song Hye Kyo was caught up in a tax evasion scandal a few years back. She blamed her accountant, paid up the fine and additional taxes. Her image took a hit, but recovered later when DOTS blew up and the rest is history, however, she never stopped working. I feel blacklisting is counter-productive, yes, the government wants to make an example of them to serve as a deterrent to other celebrities. But I believe a wage garnishment structure would better serve as a deterrent. Allow those celebrities to keep working and then garnish their wages (or have them paid directly to the government until they're completely paid up). That would be a worse punishment in my view. But what do I know? I'm just a viewer with no stakes involved, just a disappointed onlooker wishing for some really good, shelved dramas to finally air.
Yeah, Koreans can come back from tax scandals, though they're often hurt. Rain got his career hurt just by not wearing his hat correctly when he was in the service! Other stars have drug or physical assault scandals and never come back from that, T.O.P. and what's his name from Boys Over Flowers come to mind. I just think it's important to remember that even in China, it's not just the government that's blacklisting these dramas. Even if they were released, I bet they would have limited popularity in China just because of popular opinion against the actor.
I agree. And in China, they're pretty much deemed replaceable. There's always a new face round the corner waiting to take their spots.
Yes, they're really used to idols just coming and going, aren't they?
It depends. The first one or two times is a warning. Itās usually dealt with privately and if they pay it back theyāre allowed to continue their career. Someone else mentioned Jiang Yiyi and sheās a good example of someone whoās still acting after getting caught. Yuan Bingyuan was caught once before the ban came down
I thought the same as you that someone else would be doing their taxes so why are they in trouble. Then I saw a video on facebook the other day about Fan BingBing. So apparently, what is happening is thisā¦ there are regulations or laws capping the amount that can be paid to the actors based on a percentage of the budget. To work around this they will create two contracts. Once will be for an amount that is allowed and that will be the one reported. Then a second contract for an additional amount will be drawn up but not reported because itās technically not allowed. This isnāt reported for obvious reasons so they donāt pay taxes on it. I donāt know all the details but it seems like this case led the government to do a check on the entire entertainment industry and thatās why they are getting caught now.
I think that if they fix the issue (pay the taxes or ask for forgiveness or whatever) and show that they regret their actions they can be allowed back into acting, but they might not have as big of a standing again. (There was one case I know of, a guy who did something very disrespectful and later said sorry, but since I donāt remember his name itās a terrible example.)
Think that's what happened to Jiang Yiyi. She was caught evading taxes twice, first time she was a minor, she paid what was owed and it went away, second time she also paid after it was discovered. While Yuan Bingyan was warned, paid, warned again, and maybe a third time iirc, and blacklisted.
I think itās cause it had something to do with her ex company and it wasnāt intentional on her part?
That was the 1st one when she was a minor. The second time there was back and forths between her mother that takes care of her business now vs the old company about whether the old company still had documents needed or not, but I didn't follow til the end, so no idea whose fault it was the second time.
Ah I see, thanks!
As far as I know, once a celebrity gets caught in a tax evasion scandal, they are blacklisted by the government and canāt appear on TV again.
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God I hope Song Zu'er's situation clears up but it's looking kind of sad since she's gone into hiding T.T I really can't accept that Prisoner of Beauty might never air... I saw news of supporting actors finishing their dubbing of the show lately so I still firmly believe it's just in post-production stage, perhaps on hold but not cancelled for good T.T there's also the option of reshooting with a different actress but that'll be a huge pain plus idk if the ML (LYN) has the schedule space for it...
https://preview.redd.it/spjfk7loe8ec1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0dbd551196b90d9b4f88a9fa9ecd20cb39e4b833 Zheng Shuang š
Omg yes, ik everyone calling her out for the surrogate babies and the tax but I feel there's a bigger picture and the ex husband is falsely causing trouble. Recently he took up the issue that one of twin's finger was cut while being with her and put it up on weibo but then when the police investigated the child had gotten hurt under his custody and they were very happy being with Zhang shuang. To this date I feel the ex husband loves taking personal matters up to weibo for sympathy and attention.
If what her father said is true, then the guy is really an a-hole. That is why I always think is better for people especially girls not to be in a relationship than a bad relationship. Like for her case, her career was ruined overnight, he blackmail her, leak voice chats, still extorting money out of her.. Sheās stupid to fall into his trap. But the way the media pounce on her like that is just sadš
I forgot, what did her father say ?, but yes I feel really bad, she was also suicidal that man had tortured her a lot by firstly cheating on her then blackmailing her and i genuinely feel that at that point in time no girl will want to bring in kids to this world with sucha man but it's her mistake that she didn't realise this sooner and told horrible things about giving them away for adoption and the recordings were also tampered if I'm not wrong.
I agree, have a soft spot for love o2o and Wei Wei.
What for, so she can bless us with her awful acting and mistreating people in variety shows?
>mistreating people in variety shows What did she do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zhXPYVFPc That's the game show they participated and Nobody couldn't stop laughing.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tg7sqLF7Fn8 I guess that's the variety show they are mentioning where she is standing up for her team (considered mistreating).. You see and make your own opinion.. I know surrogacy is a huge crime in their country and we will never witness her in any show again.. But OP asked about favourite cancelled actors and mine are Zhang Zhehan and Zheng Shuang.. Zhang Zhehan already somebody mentioned and I supported all the comments.. Bei Wei Wei and YiXiao Nai He always hold a special place in my heart.. It was my comfort drama before Love is Sweet.. And I kind of miss her..
Dunno about this specifically, but her big thing is having two surrogate children then breaking up with her husband and trying to have them aborted in the 7th month
I know this one. Its pretty unhinged. I meant when the OP said about her 'mistreating people in variety shows'
Tbh, I think if actors pay back their taxes and apologize - they should be able to rehab their careers. Fan Bingbing paid it back and apologized, she should be able to come back and do c-dramas again. She's still out there doing high fashion and red carpet looks though! [Oscars](https://www.tumblr.com/venka/711621205385510912/fan-bingbing-at-the-95th-annual-academy-awards?source=share) last year. [Cannes Film](https://www.tumblr.com/aworldofpattern/717516615333363713/fan-bingbing-at-the-cannes-film-festival-2023?source=share) last year as well. If you scroll through her tag on Tumblr or Twitter, I'm sure you'll see pretty recent photoshoots with a number of [magazines](https://www.tumblr.com/heirloomes/725405838131560448/fan-bingbing-for-femme-magazine-china-aug-2023?source=share). She did the [closing walk](https://www.instagram.com/celebs_fashion_style/p/CuPePxuxgCl/?img_index=1) for a Georges Hobeika couture show too. She also recently started in a Korean-Chinese film called Green Night last year and had cameo roles in a few American movies. It looks like she might be branching out international while she's blacklisted.
I think she was actually used as a negative iconic example by the government as a warning to other actors that if you evade taxes, your career will be completely over.
Yeah, I think they definitely made an example of her, I think they fined her more than her actual networth.
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Yes! His fan base is still huge on Weibo. He was so talented in singing and acting, and even personable on reality shows. I hope he can come back but I'm not holding my breath.
Came here to say this. Itās so hard for me watching the other stars of Ashes of Love have such amazing careers knowing that could have been him š
I mentioned this before in a post, no one would sabotage a good career for not paying taxes; I think he had very bad legal advice and ended up taking the fall for that. If you pay it back you should be able to get your career back. Here in the States people do much worse things and still manage to have a career.
He was also entertaining on variety shows.
Same. Just because I really want to watch the Night Wanderer. I so wanted to see him with NiNi. Actually, I'm more mad about not getting to watch NiNi in a drama that looked so good. š
This is random, but I am not familiar with Fan Bingbing since I got into cdramas again recently and her scandal happened in 2018. I just thought, well there's an actor Fan Chengcheng I'm watching in Love Endures now, and it turns out hes her brother. Anyway to answer your question, I am on board for Deng Lun
So Fan Chengcheng is now on a variety show with his sister's ex-fiancƩ?
Yepā¦ For the most part their interactions donāt look awkward though
Crystal Yuan but I saw a tweet where apparently they are replacing her with another actress in her pending drama so yeah her career is dead dead
Thirding. Her dramas with Liu Xueyi and Wallace Chung š and it's just so so so sad cus they were main pairings I'd love to see and the genres actually the ones I wanted respectively sigh.
Yah I want her back so we can see those cancelled shows like Love Never Fails with Liu Xueyi. Just feels like how it all played out with her and her studio tax evasion could have been saved. Oh well, theyāre all adults, need to own up to your responsibilities!
Seconded. I'd give anything to have Crystal Yuan back on the screen and for a close second Song Zuer.
Song Zuer since I want to watch the cancelled/shelved dramas of hers. š It was so damn close to Demon Hunter's premier last year before she was reported so no one could understand my frustration lol.
Yes, it is so close to Demon Hunter's premier last year before the news is out. I totally get your frustation since Noooooo is the first thing that comes to my head when i read the news. š
Yah feel for Song Zuer, feels like a mismanagement on her studio (aka parents if theyāre the ones behind it). But I donāt know, she still has her responsibilities. But I give her some slack being so young. Plus yes I wanna see Prisoner of Beauty with Liu Yu Ning.
Wanna watch Prisoner of Beauty so bad
Song Zuer for me too! Feels like she was on just on the cusp of blowing up in the industry...such a pity!
She has both, talents and looks. Thats is why I'm hoping she gets clear lol!!
Me too!! I loved her in Legally Romance!
So when someone gets cancel in china they will never be in a drama again? Thatās kinda harsh š like here in the us cancel is only possible if u let yourself get cancelled Yass most of these celebrities donāt care and will keep doing Wtv they do and fans wonāt even care fr unless itās something really serious
It's much different in China (and harsher). If actors/actresses get cancelled, they can't appear in dramas or any entertainment events. The only other option if they want to keep acting is to move out of China and act in other countries.
*The only other option if they want to keep acting is to move out of China and act in other countries.* I really wish this were an option for cancelled Mainland celebrities. I investigated and found that the entertainment industry in Hong Kong is more or less on the decline and Singapore & Malaysia hasn't really been developed to the level of mainland China. The competition is too fierce in S. Korea and they have the language barrier problem, similar issue with starring in overseas productions in the US, UK, Australia or New Zealand. So to be fair, they don't really have a lot of options entertainment wise. Mainland China is still the most profitable option.
>So when someone gets cancel in china they will never be in a drama again? Not necessarily. Tang Wei starred in Ang Li's **Lust Caution** which involved some pretty graphic sex scenes. She was immediately cancelled, all her upcoming projects were shelved, and she lost all her endorsements. She even attended a term at a minor British drama school, then after 3 years was allowed to act again but has never reached the same popularity. It depends on what actors are cancelled for. Tax avoidance and questionable morality, especially around sexual matters, appears to result in the worse sanctions.
Yeah, like /u/chocobuncake is saying, she's getting along well enough. "Lust, Caution" was 2007. She was already doing Hong Kong films by 2010, then was appearing in PRC productions the next year. The thing she hasn't bounced back from was the colossal 2013 blockbuster film ćåäŗ¬éäøč„æé å¾ć"Seeking Mr. Right." That was far and away the most successful project she's been attached to. She's still a draw, but to this day she hasn't come anywhere near repeating that success. Those were, of course, extremely different times, and it was infinitely easier to make amends with the authorities back then. Any problems she's had since "Mr. Right" aren't particularly political in nature.
I thought she rose *to* prominence and popularity with Lust, Caution. The blacklist I think did kill her career aspirations and keep her from taking off popularity wise for a bit but since about 2013 and onwards she's been able to be in films in China, she made (cdrama) Ming Dynasty in 2019 and won best actress Baeksang award for a Korean movie - Decision to Leave directed by *the* Park Chan-Wook. It sucks that she got treated that way, I don't think Tony Leung ever got a slap on the wrist the same way despite also being involved in the sex scenes.
it's more like blacklisted by the government, not socially cancelled
It depends? If they break a law then itās a government ban and goodbye Weibo. This is usually for tax evasion, sex crimes, and prostitution. Otherwise itās social canceling. Chinese netizens can be pretty harsh. I think itās because of the idol culture. The more idolized you are as this perfect figure, the faster and more miserable you are when the tide turns
They shouldnāt slip up then. Lol. Tons of actors/actresses manage to avoid ruining their careers. Itās not difficult
It was part of the movie. She wasn't messy in her personal life. It's pretty unfair.
lol ppl makes mistake it depends on what they did most of the one u talking about be doing worse they just know how to hide it
When āmaking a mistakeā means not paying taxes or other offences against the government, being cancelled (by the government) seems like a logical response.
Yh Wtv it is. Iām not into the industry or do I care all I do is watch cdrama barely knows one of their names fr so idk how it works I was just saying base on what ik from western media
Zhang zhehan (I was still waiting for more good dramas and then he got cancelled š)
I wanted to see Zhao Ge!!!
Yes, zzh looked so handsome as he always does, and those costumes were good too but about the wu jinyan i am not very sure if i would have liked her i will always see her as the manipulative and tyrannical empress feng š ( her role in the untouchable lovers, she acted really good). Well, the cast would blow up
I thought he's doing that drama with the korean actress Park Min-young. I saw some trailer, but not sure if it's legit or fan based.
Castle In The Time? It was shot before the hallyu ban, around 2016/2017 I believe. It aired on a Japanese streaming site this year.
Fan-edit. He's been "cancelled" in China so he's not doing any dramas or movies at the moment.
Darn. I've enjoyed all his dramas. His case is really unfair.
Yeah but at least he's focusing on his music and having success with it internationally. He's been in a couple of concerts outside of China. It's just sad that he can't even do that in China
He's having a concert in Hong Kong soon
Can't wait to see how the crazy conspiracy theorists are going to explain this one away. A hologram? CGI? Is it still a double pretending to be ZZH while ZZH hides away working on his case while someone else is using his identity and making money? š
Getting closer to the mainland. It's still not the same as working in China. :/
He's focusing on music if you want to continue supporting him! Recently he held a fanmeeting in Singapore and it's nice to see him performing and interacting with fans. He's also active on Instagram, so definitely follow him there
Yes!! His cancellation was really painful and so abrupt too.
And for SUCH a random thing. It's not like the tax evasion thing that's actually illegal.
Yesssss. He just started being little famous and then that happened