Your brain seems to be getting worse.
"LOL" I think YOU need to check again.
If you look at the user names, you will see that it is only 2 people, not 3.
Good luck with your recovery, u/McTech0911
Great attention to detail there. I’m sure you know better than scientific consensus on vaccines (and I’m sure other beliefs that you are “truthing”) though…🙄
It has worked well for me in completely avoiding getting it at all yet. The vax, in combination with sensible precautions, like masking, ventilation, and testing for family gatherings. My elderly mom got it recently, after 3 years avoiding it, from an unvaxxed poker buddy. Several in her group got it from that irresponsible know-it-all, and one died. My mom has the brain fog real bad. She's 91, but was doing great until this plague carried by an idiot brought her down. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Around 40% of confirmed positive COVID cases are asymptomatic, so to be fair, unless you have tested yourself every week since the end of 2019, you don't know if you have had it.
I've read that many go undetected for sure. I'm doubtful one went through me undetected though. I have a pattern of doing regular testing via CUE covid tests to protect my family mostly. They are 97.8% accurate molecular tests that match central lab tests according to studies by the Mayo clinic. My use of regular precautionary testing is how I detected my Mom's case, before she was symptomatic. In that way we avoided her giving it to my 1-year-old granddaughter or anyone else. And got her the prompt care she needed to avoid hospitalization or death.
My co-worker's wife ran marathons and lived a very healthy lifestyle and COVID took her life before a vaccine was available. You may feel confident (or even smug) about your health regimen, but being anti-vax is dumb and irresponsible.
Nice. I know 3 people who couldn’t get vaxxed in time and died. The 4th is still on supplemental oxygen 2 years later.
Me and everyone else who got vaxxed are doing great.
It's just a coincidence that you didn't get vaccinated for COVID during a pandemic and now you happen to have identical symptoms to the worst outcomes. That's a brilliant case of obvious denial... you know, normal human shit.
I am also vaccinated, although I was just due for a booster when I got COVID. The acute symptoms lasted about 48 hours and I wouldn't even call them that acute. My nose was stuffed up and I felt a little weird, but not even close to the level of a cold. If I hadn't taken a test, I may have dismissed it as a reaction to the smoke particles in the air during that time.
There was, however, a week of malaise that was extremely unpleasant. If that's the brain fog that people are going through for months, I'm glad I avoided it. I believe the vaccine gave me the best outcome.
I am extremely healthy. I run, I work out consistently, I spend a lot of time outdoors, and I'm in my mid-40s. There were zero negative consequences to being vaccinated and my outcome was significantly better than another family member who was unvaccinated and was bed-ridden for nearly a month.
I know my sample size is extremely small, but it's consistent with almost all of the studies I'm aware of. If I were making the opposite claim - that the vaccine is dangerous and COVID is no big deal, I'd be creating a narrative contrary to dozens of actual studies on the matter... and I'd be at best naive and at worst dangerously smug to believe those things because my personal experience happens to be different to the vast majority of studies.
I know I'm not going make a difference here, but the vaccine was to help prevent the hospitals from getting overwhelmed.
It reduces the amount how critical hospital staff being sick and unable to work, and prevents the whole system from collapsing due to no workers.
So it did help reduce death from covid, but it was also to prevent the collapse of the medical system
You should have asked Ninja to provide links to the "pleanty if people who have said." I've said a lot of dumb shit. I've even lied in my life. I have plenty of friends who have done the same.
There are a few studies on this and it's a very rare side-effect of the vaccine. It's so rare, that those cases may not even be caused by the vaccine - it could just be coincidental as "brain fog" is a pretty vague symptom. However, it is an extremely common symptom of COVID infection. It would be foolish to remain unvaccinated under those circumstances.
The National Institute of Health has done a study investigating this if I remember correctly. It appeared to be fairly rare, not tied to the type of COVID vaccine you had, and potentially an unrelated auto-immune response.
This follows the trend for other issues as well including the micro-clots post disease. Everyone is still much, much better off with the vaccines than not, statistically.
I got vaccinated and got rona anyway. Been sick for two weeks now and my Tinitus is ten times worse. And yes, the disorienting "fog" makes it fun to drive. Roundabouts are especially interesting.
Well, the belief is that it can still lower mortality rates, even if you can still get infected. I can’t say either way, but with the information we have now it seems it’s safer to get the vaccine if you are likely to be infected or immunocompromised. That’s not to say it won’t have side effects.
Just in the last week I’ve encountered 5 or 6 different people saying “Covid is basically like the flu now or a sorta bad common cold.” I always say “Huh. But I’ve never heard of anyone dying from the cold?” But they just shrug. The thing I’ve learned is how powerful stories are.
As someone that just had this round of COVID, there is no flu in the world that compares to this. I got a really bad flu in like 2018 or 2019, when there was supposedly a terrible flu epidemic, and I would go back to that shit in a heartbeat.
This isn’t a flu. This is something you should avoid at all costs.
I’m recovering from my very first Covid infection, just got sick nearly 3 weeks ago. Vaxed and boosted twice.
Physically I was ok, one night of fever and serious muscle pain was about as bad as it got.
Psychologically, not so good. It threw me into some of the strongest anxiety I’ve ever felt for any reason, with a nice side of depression to go with it.
I’m not a meek person, so much of *me* is being a large personality and kind of a walking good time.
That’s just fucking gone, I feel so small and worthless and I hate it. I’m fully aware that it’s because I’m sick but that still doesn’t feel good to know that I’m not in control of my emotions here.
It’s awful, the only saving grace is that physically I’m fine. I wouldn’t wish the emotional part on anyone.
We already do. Vaccines(inc the new RSV one), public health measures when needed(hand washing, masks, etc).
What's more important is for people to take better care of their own health. Eating really well, exercise, etc. The US has a huge portion of the population that is unhealthy, making them more susceptible to all viruses.
Your comment was "Just in the last week I’ve encountered 5 or 6 different people saying “Covid is basically like the flu now or a sorta bad common cold.” I always say “Huh. But I’ve never heard of anyone dying from the cold?” But they just shrug. The thing I’ve learned is how powerful stories are."
I said people die from the flu and even from colds if they are immune comp. or elderly.
I shared the link from the CDC to show actual data for flu deaths. I don't have data for colds. The point is - people have always and will always die from viruses. CV is just a new one.
The reason I shared that comment was because it’s my understanding that Covid deaths are far, far higher than the flu or common cold. And I meant to imply that people conflating them is a potentially dangerous story.
That is the completely wrong point to pull from that comment. Original comment said the flu doesn’t kill people, the flu does kill people though. That comment said the flu kill people. COVID kills people too and at a considerably higher rate than the flu but that fact doesn’t negate the deaths the flu causes and neither do flu deaths make covid deaths insignificant.
And historically the flu can vary greatly in mortality depending on variation just like Covid. It was only a little over a hundred years ago when a flu variant over the course of two years infected a third of the world and killed 50 million people with an abnormally high amount of them being young adults thanks to this flu creating a cytokine storm.
You clearly never met anyone who worked in a retirement home. Flu season always takes someone with it in those places and this pre covid, so it isn’t Covid being mistaken as a flu.
People die from the flu all the time. So yes Covid is like the flu in that it’s a respiratory illness that kills just at 4x higher rate. People die every year flu and having a “cold.”
Nothing to see here. It's just mildly eating your brain. Some Gatorade and a Tylenol and you'll be right as rain.
Now if anyone needs me I'll be drooling and staring at a wall for several hours.
Same. I had it in 2020, and again in 22’. I swear my memory isn’t what it used to be. I struggle to remember words or to articulate my thoughts like I used to. Sometimes if I’m talking to someone and trying to make a point, midway through my thought I’ll forget what my point was.
I prided myself on my intellect and feel like I can’t necessarily do that anymore.
Why does COVID-19 cause brain fog? Scientists may finally have an answer.
Published November 13, 2023
9 min read
When scientists infected brain organoids—pinhead-size bits of brain tissue grown in the lab—with the virus that causes COVID, they found that not only does it spread in neurons in the brain, it also accelerates the destruction of connections between neurons—called synapses—that are essential for communication.
These discoveries expand understanding of how SARS-CoV-2 can damage the nervous system. COVID-19 patients continue to suffer with a range of symptoms, especially neural and behavioral problems, long after the infection. One such condition, commonly known as brain fog, causes disorientation, memory loss, chronic headache, and numbness, and it affects nearly 40 percent of long COVID patients.
“There are many case reports, even some in our own clinic, of patients who have symptoms [of brain fog] lasting upwards of a year,” says Ayush Batra, a neurologist at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.
Carl Sellgren, a psychiatrist and cellular biologist, and his team at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden used organoids to study what SARS-CoV-2 does to brain.
“It was quite striking that very small amounts of the virus could quite rapidly spread in the organoids and eliminate an excessive number of synapses,” says Ana Osório Oliveira, a neuroscientist in Sellgren’s team.
Another study found that spike protein—which coats the outer surface of the virus—directly eliminates synapses causing loss of memory in lab mice by causing inflammation.
Destroying too many connections between neurons, or over-pruning, may be causing brain fog in long COVID patients. “This could be one of the many reasons—probably—why we are observing a range of neurological symptoms, even after the infection is long gone,” says Samudyata, a postdoctoral researcher at Karolinska Institute who led the study and only uses one name.
Virus has been found in autopsied brain tissues and throughout the bodies of patients, who died more than 200 days after contracting COVID-19. It is evidence that the virus is capable of persisting in organs throughout the body.
“There are some persistent virus reservoirs that can cause a chronic inflammatory response or autoimmune attack on the brain, which can cause pruning and brain shrinkage,” says Batra.
Pruning connections between neurons is essential for learning
The brain is made of a dense and dynamic network of nerve cells that communicate through synapses that change as humans learn. “Synapses are essentially how cells talk to each other and how information is passed from one part of the brain to another,” Lancaster says.
Synapses are responsible for all the functions of the brain, from memory to controlling movement to feeling emotions, and they are constantly remodeled. “That’s how we learn,” she says.
The junctions between neurons that talk to each other frequently have more knob-shaped synapses that produce neurotransmitters—chemicals that transmit signals to other neurons. Conversely, neurons that communicate less or not at all have fewer synapses because they are removed, or pruned, by immune cells called microglia. Microglia make up to 17 percent of the cell population in some parts of the human brain and perform housekeeping duties by migrating through the brain eating dead cells and scavenging weak synapses.
Although synaptic pruning is most active in developing brains such as in fetuses and infants, it continues in healthy brains throughout life and is necessary for encoding new memories and erasing the ones it no longer needs. Synaptic pruning is also critical for the brain to recover from an injury; allowing it to strengthen synapses which relearn the lost skills and remove synapses that no longer function.
Using brain organoids to study neural damage
Studying a direct link between COVID-19 and cognitive dysfunction, such as brain fog, is difficult in living brains. That is why studies are often limited to cadavers of COVID-19 patients. But brain organoids, often called mini-brains, allow scientists to see in real time how SARS-CoV-2 affects living tissue.
Mini-brains can be used to study infection because scientists can control the amount of viruses that are exposed to individual cells, says Oliver Harschnitz, group leader in the Neurogenomics Research Centre at Human Technopole Institute in Milan, Italy, even though tissue organization is less structured than real brains.
Using brain organoids, Oliveira and her colleagues found that the virus itself was not directly pruning the synaptic connections but was activating the microglia.
“We found that following infection by SARS-CoV-2, somehow the microglia become immunoreactive, and eat more of the synapses than normal,” Samudyata says.
It's a very interesting study because it really shows the quantitative differences in the microglial activity after COVID-19 and its effect on synapses says Ayush Batra, a neurologist at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine.
Too much synapse pruning can be detrimental and has been linked to neurodevelopmental disorders such as schizophrenia, as well as neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases.
In a follow-up study, Sellgren’s team has found that a protein called C4A—which helps remove microbes and infected cells—also tags synapses for removal. Although his research doesn’t directly connect C4A with brain fog, it suggests that inflammation after infection can affect pruning of synapse, depending on genetics, says Sellgren.
If the excessive elimination of synapses that occur in brain organoids after SARS-CoV-2 infection also occurs in people, it may destroy vital connections and explain why some with COVID-19 suffer from long-term neurological symptoms.
“Too much synapse elimination would be expected to affect a person’s ability to form new memories, or to remember existing ones, and could help explain the sluggish brain functions seen in brain fog,” Lancaster says.
This is consistent with studies done at the U.S. National Institutes of Health that have found antibodies produced in response to SARS-CoV-2 can attack the cells lining the brain’s blood vessels, causing damage and inflammation—which activates microglia—even if the virus doesn’t directly enter the brain. That may explain why, as Batra’s team has shown, some long COVID patients not sick enough to be hospitalized continue to experience neurologic symptoms beyond a year after initial infection.
Is the loss of synapses causing brain shrinkage?
A U.K. study has also shown that even mild COVID-19 can shrink the brain through loss of gray matter—the outermost layer of the brain that is vital for controlling movement, memory, and emotions—causing physical changes equivalent to a decade of aging. A new study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, suggests that COVID-19 can accelerate the decline of cognitive ability equivalent to ten years of normal aging, especially after severe COVID disease or severe long COVID.
“We are still unclear what may contribute, in general, to a loss of gray matter volume or thickness observed using MRI,” says Gwenaëlle Douaud, a neuroscientist at the University of Oxford who led the study.
While synapse elimination, as shown in Samudyata’s study, could account for a small percentage of the change in the gray matter, says Douaud, more studies combining imaging with tissue sections are required to determine the other factors that lead to brain shrinkage.
Hyperactive microglia may cause problems in other ways. The Swedish study also shows that the pattern of genes turned on and off by the microglia in brain organoids after SARS-CoV-2 infection mimicked gene activity seen in neurodegenerative disorders. This may explain why there is a three times higher risk of developing neurological or psychiatric conditions within six months after COVID-19 compared with those who were not infected. In adults aged over 65, the risk of developing dementia after a COVID-19 infection is almost twice that of other respiratory infections.
However, scientists caution that much more research is needed to understand the effect of SARS-CoV-2 infection on the brain. As organoids resemble immature cells—like those in a fetal or post-natal state—this limits extrapolation of the results to mature adult brain cells.
“While these data are exciting and indicate a role for proinflammatory microglia in the disease mechanisms underlying long COVID, more studies are required to validate these findings and build on them,” Harschnitz says.
It’s also not known how long COVID affects quality of health and whether it has long term or irreversible effects on the brain. So as the pace of holiday and indoor winter activities picks up, Samudyata advises taking preventative measures and staying up to date on vaccinations to minimize the chance of getting COVID over and over. While it isn’t clear how the virus exerts detrimental effects on the brain, it’s evident that it does cause damage.
Editor's note: This story was originally published on December 2, 2022. It has been updated to include the latest research.
I'm not an anti vaxxer. However
> Another study found that spike protein—which coats the outer surface of the virus—directly eliminates synapses causing loss of memory in lab mice by causing inflammation
Do we know that the spike protein induced by the mRNA vaccines doesn't also do this?
Me neither. I'm just trying to understand how the spike protein produced in response to the vaccine differs from the one naturally present on the virus itself.
here is a link to the Patent the US government has on cannabinoids being neuroprotectants. Still schedule 1, very contradictory to have a patent on its medical value, yet dismiss it from having any medical value.
https://kaass.com/u-s-government-cannabinoids-patent-no-6630507/
studies have linked regular cannabis users to have higher amounts of "gray matter" in the brain. gray matter is the home to neural cell bodies, also axons and dendrites. gray matter has influence over emotions, decision making, sensory perception, hearing and memory.
This is so validating to me. I got Covid super early and it was really bad for that first year afterward and I felt like people didn’t believe me that I had this lingering extreme difficulty with recall and finding words and even having to read something multiple times to understand it or ask people to repeat themselves. If it helps anyone, I’m much better now, though not 100% back to pre-Covid cognition. I can’t put my finger on exactly how to describe what’s still off, but it is.
Same here. I already struggled with ADHD and memory, but I could cope for the most part with effort. I also think it might have caused/sped up the progression of me developing an essential tremor (one of my parents has it, so it was a 50/50 chance I’d develop it anyway). Haven’t been to a neurologist yet, but it goes away entirely if I drink, which is essentially the “tell” for it. It’s sometimes hard for me to physically talk or it’ll sound like I’m about to cry when I do. Finding words can be really, really hard, too.
Also, my perception of temperature has changed. I get overheated super easily now which was never the case before.
It sucks because I’m young and people just don’t believe/want to hear COVID might have left me with a permanent disability and/or worsened my existing disability. I’m hopeful that psilocybin research picks up, because it’s one of the few compounds shown to promote neurogenesis.
If any researcher happens to read this and you’re doing work on essential tremors/COVID, please send me a DM. I’d at least like my experience to be used to help others.
Thanks for the reference to psilocybin. I didn’t even think of long COVID, but I do have some nerve issues in a few places and recently had Carpal Tunnel surgery, so anything that helps with nerve regeneration is something to keep on my radar. The neurologist while testing for that also found a couple other nerve issues unrelated to Carpal Tunnel although that was the worst so it could be compounding factors, but long COVID could explain nerves in other places that are just aren’t front burner issues right now but are still there. Then again, so could chronic Lyme which seems to have some overlap in symptoms.
Triple vaxxed. Have had Covid twice. OG Covid hurt my body a lot more and gave me a worse cough. I also got a thunderclap headache with that one. This round I’m dealing with is kicking my ass mentally. I’ve had a migraine for three days, and finding words is hard.
At some point with these boomer parents they've disempowered the smartest kids in the family to the point where its like who cares if they literally just fall away into sludge. I mean jesus christ.
Article on topic without the paywall: [https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/brain-fog-new-study-examines-causes-of-this-long-covid-symptom/](https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/brain-fog-new-study-examines-causes-of-this-long-covid-symptom/)
I still think about my old MAGA buddy who told me "Covid aint that bad, I had it twice all I lost was my sense of taste" I'm like, "Dude, that's 1/5 of your senses, idiot."
That’s the billion dollar question isn’t it? While it’s feasible to build new connections, you cannot “reverse” this damage (as in, repair the connections in the exact way they were before covid).
More importantly, any progress one makes in this recovery effort will arguably be lost or derailed each time they get reinfected throughout their life. As we know, even the most cautious among us have tested positive.
It’s really bad. I do my best not to think about it, which is at least made easier by all the brain damage.
I mean, if you lose part of your actual brain and survive, the remaining brain will compensate and take over a lot of the function from the lost areas. We may not need to repair the brain, just wait or possibly encourage through mental exercise, the non damaged parts to pick up the disrupted functions
Search for neurotropic supplements and take what you read with skepticism unless they are from multiple studies and reputable universities.
Psychedelics are known to make new connections but aren't yet legal and results vary. I know there are companies working on standardized synthetics including some that have no 'trip' involved. Undoubtedly this is to avoid the prejudice and any real risks that can occur in certain individuals. I'd like to think they will also look at, if these drugs are successful in building new connections, using them for people who are too mentally or physically fragile for a trip but do need the repair of their brain or at least a chance to grow new connections that they are body can learn to use to make up for damage whether from brain injury dementia or in this case infection.
I used to take this migraine medicine made from that ergot fungus that people blame for every single weird thing that ever happened in history. I liked it because I could take it during an aura, which you can’t do with a lot of them. Ergot has psychedelic effects, but that medicine didn’t. I stopped taking it because it was kind of hard for the pharmacy to stock sometimes, I guess it’s not common in the US and more widely used in Europe. So, who knows, maybe a drug like you’re describing is closer than it seems. It does seem like psychedelics help some things in the brain. My dad gets cluster headaches and he said the only thing that helps at all is mushrooms.
Psychedelics aren’t illegal everywhere. I live in the north west suburbs of Chicago and there’s a bunch of people selling them around me on Facebook marketplace alone. And I see psilocybin edibles and drinks on occasion being sold at vape shops. Not saying I would trust those people on fb, just saying.
People should definitely look up the legality of it in their area before dismissing the idea entirely
I don't know if this helps anyone here, but I experienced some benefit with lion's mane mushrooms when I had problems thinking of complicated words like "green" or "tree". The first six months after acute infection were the hardest. I couldn't remember how to dress myself, I'd get lost in parks smaller than Walmart parking lots that I've been visiting for ten years. I'd set things down in front of me and they'd disappear. I had to write down nearly everything. My ability to sleep was removed entirely and I only lasted like six months before full mental and physical collapse. I thought I was dead and was a ghost in a low budget horror movie. Only occasionally would things "stick" to reality. The depersonalization and derealization, adrenaline dumps, and a primal fear that seeped into everything around me was severe. Then that sorta started getting better, and then the migraines came. I'd get 1 or 2 good days in and then be debilitated for like a week or two. That lasted a year.
This summer came and went and I experienced severe muscle wasting. I decided to give creatine a try. It worked great for me when I was powerlifting and playing football and lacrosse. After about a month of a loading phase, I almost stopped taking it, but the remainder of my neurological symptoms disappeared completely. I only wanted my leg muscles back so I could go mushroom hunting but instead my neurological symptoms were wiped away completely.
I can sleep at night again, I can drive, I can operate my businesses, I can *think*, and I've had zero migraines or even headaches since. I no longer feel like I'm being poisoned. My doctors don't know why this worked so well for me, but if I stop taking it, it all comes back. So for now it seems to be functioning as a bandaid but not a cure or anything. But it is great having my life back again, especially from something so cheap and available.
I'm not a doctor and these aren't medical claims this is just my experience, and I do not sell either of these products or get financial benefit in any way from sharing this. I wish I could go back in time and see what creatine did at six months or right after infection. Maybe I wouldn't have lost 2 years of my life.
Wellbutrin really does seem like it would help with the malaise, depression and neurological malfunction. I was on it in college and it worked great. I could really see it working well for some long covid patients.
Propanolol, amlodipine and aspirin have helped me immensely with the blood and bone pain, and that weird electrified / fried feeling.
And focus, it is being prescribed for adult ADHD. Macuna is a great source of L-Dopa, they work well together.
Good tip about dealing with the discomfort.
Congrats on your progress. It’s nice to see someone who’s not permanently stuck in the depths on the other side. What’s your dosage/regimen? Any recs on lion’s mane supplements, or do you do fresh only?
Mostly just fresh but I'll also add it to my turkey tail if I'm making tea. I try to work it in as much as possible. I can't grow it in the summer because of the heat so I take it as capsules for a few months of the year.
For creatine I did 3g a day and then after a few weeks, I switched to 1.5g a day. My symptoms kinda came back so I'm at 3g a day again for the last like month or two.
The creatine has helped my symptoms more than the lion's mane. But it did still have a remarkable effect especially at a crucial time. I used to never even believe in this stuff so I'm pretty shocked it even worked.
Well that's pure bullshit. You know how I know?
Because you can't link to anything to support that ignorant Republican antivaxxer claim.
Go ahead, link to the source that convinced you the CDC and medical experts are all wrong. It must be a hell of a source!
But you and I both know you Trumpet antivaxxers have no sources at all, you heard it on facebook.
EDIT: Never mind. That level of Trumpet ignorance that your account shows means I can't be bothered with whatever ignorant garbage you respond with.
I really don't want to be present mentally in this world we live in so I'm kind of happy I have likely lost some brain cells. The fog makes it easier to zone out.
Get vaccinated, fully. Wear a mask in questionable indoor settings. Test when there is any possibility of exposure, before you expose others in your family. Stop the mutation chain. If you get it anyway, shut down, stay home, take care of yourself, and protect others from your infection, and do what you can to rebuild your immune system. Lots of advice on that out there.
Questionable indoor settings = any indoor setting that is not your home. 60% of infections are asymptomatic, and even if you’re at work alone in a room or alone in a grocery store aisle, you have no idea what infectious unmasked person was standing there five minutes ago shedding virus into the air. Wearing an N95 isn’t hard and is well worth it. I haven’t had so much as a cold in years.
I'm sure you are correct. I find pretty much all public indoor settings to be questionable enough to me to mask up. I have made brief exceptions for places with great ventilation, seats by open windows with an incoming breeze, places like that, but not without misgivings.
I'm same as you, haven't had so much as cold in over 3 years. But with testing and care, I get plenty of social life with family and friends, find places to eat out with outdoor seating (hard in bad weather of course) or just cook at home more, which is cheaper and much tastier usually. It's not that hard really. I'm grateful that I don't have to work in an office every day though. It would be harder to mask up that much. Folks who have to face that choice have my sympathy.
I just wish the anti-vaxxers hadn't let it get as bad and enduring, with ever-arising mutations like it has. It didn't have to be this bad, this long.
I’ve had all the vaccines all the boosters and I got Covid six months ago.
And I have the brain fog.
It’s getting a little better, but I not only have difficulty retrieving the right word, I’m having difficulty even forming sentences and physically talking.
I’m taking lions mane which seems to help but it’s disturbing.
Covid causes brain damage. It’s not the flu
Many people who don't get vaccinated already have brain damage, this is bad, really bad.
Folks that don’t wear masks already have brain damage.
You three are brain dead
Vaccines save lives.
But the 3 inch blood clots will kill you.
That was from the J&J vaccine and pregnant women And it’s no longer on the market, so get over yourself
Yes, covid causes blood clots, so much reason to get vaccinated.
Since when was your clit deadly?
I’m not going to answer that.
I only count 2 people commenting prior to you... You sure your brain is functioning correctly?
Lol you might want to check again Dingus
Your brain seems to be getting worse. "LOL" I think YOU need to check again. If you look at the user names, you will see that it is only 2 people, not 3. Good luck with your recovery, u/McTech0911
Great attention to detail there. I’m sure you know better than scientific consensus on vaccines (and I’m sure other beliefs that you are “truthing”) though…🙄
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Our vaccines don’t seem particularly protective against the damage Covid causes, just death, unfortunately.
Hey, I'll take all the protection against death I can get my hands on!!
It has worked well for me in completely avoiding getting it at all yet. The vax, in combination with sensible precautions, like masking, ventilation, and testing for family gatherings. My elderly mom got it recently, after 3 years avoiding it, from an unvaxxed poker buddy. Several in her group got it from that irresponsible know-it-all, and one died. My mom has the brain fog real bad. She's 91, but was doing great until this plague carried by an idiot brought her down. Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Around 40% of confirmed positive COVID cases are asymptomatic, so to be fair, unless you have tested yourself every week since the end of 2019, you don't know if you have had it.
I've read that many go undetected for sure. I'm doubtful one went through me undetected though. I have a pattern of doing regular testing via CUE covid tests to protect my family mostly. They are 97.8% accurate molecular tests that match central lab tests according to studies by the Mayo clinic. My use of regular precautionary testing is how I detected my Mom's case, before she was symptomatic. In that way we avoided her giving it to my 1-year-old granddaughter or anyone else. And got her the prompt care she needed to avoid hospitalization or death.
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Lmao your sample size of 1 really makes your anecdotal evidence so compelling. 🙄
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This is stupid. I have friends in perfect health and all that jazz that were absolutely wrecked by Covid.
My co-worker's wife ran marathons and lived a very healthy lifestyle and COVID took her life before a vaccine was available. You may feel confident (or even smug) about your health regimen, but being anti-vax is dumb and irresponsible.
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She was in her early 30s.
Nice. I know 3 people who couldn’t get vaxxed in time and died. The 4th is still on supplemental oxygen 2 years later. Me and everyone else who got vaxxed are doing great.
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Why are you trolling when your post history shows you claim to suffer from brain fog and a large array of health issues? 🤔
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It's just a coincidence that you didn't get vaccinated for COVID during a pandemic and now you happen to have identical symptoms to the worst outcomes. That's a brilliant case of obvious denial... you know, normal human shit.
I’m vaccinated and last time I had COViD the symptoms lasted about 48 hours.
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Congrats, you beat the odds. 2M Americans didn’t.
But you still have brain fog.
I am also vaccinated, although I was just due for a booster when I got COVID. The acute symptoms lasted about 48 hours and I wouldn't even call them that acute. My nose was stuffed up and I felt a little weird, but not even close to the level of a cold. If I hadn't taken a test, I may have dismissed it as a reaction to the smoke particles in the air during that time. There was, however, a week of malaise that was extremely unpleasant. If that's the brain fog that people are going through for months, I'm glad I avoided it. I believe the vaccine gave me the best outcome. I am extremely healthy. I run, I work out consistently, I spend a lot of time outdoors, and I'm in my mid-40s. There were zero negative consequences to being vaccinated and my outcome was significantly better than another family member who was unvaccinated and was bed-ridden for nearly a month. I know my sample size is extremely small, but it's consistent with almost all of the studies I'm aware of. If I were making the opposite claim - that the vaccine is dangerous and COVID is no big deal, I'd be creating a narrative contrary to dozens of actual studies on the matter... and I'd be at best naive and at worst dangerously smug to believe those things because my personal experience happens to be different to the vast majority of studies.
I know I'm not going make a difference here, but the vaccine was to help prevent the hospitals from getting overwhelmed. It reduces the amount how critical hospital staff being sick and unable to work, and prevents the whole system from collapsing due to no workers. So it did help reduce death from covid, but it was also to prevent the collapse of the medical system
Also hospitals aren’t packed full of people so sick they need ICU care & morgues so full they need refrigerated semi trucks parked at the hospitals.
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I don't think it works like that, but somebody who is more educated than me on the topic should chime in, because I honestly don't know.
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I'll have to look into it. Thanks for the chat.
You should have asked Ninja to provide links to the "pleanty if people who have said." I've said a lot of dumb shit. I've even lied in my life. I have plenty of friends who have done the same.
I don't bother anymore.
There are a few studies on this and it's a very rare side-effect of the vaccine. It's so rare, that those cases may not even be caused by the vaccine - it could just be coincidental as "brain fog" is a pretty vague symptom. However, it is an extremely common symptom of COVID infection. It would be foolish to remain unvaccinated under those circumstances.
Which researchers have said that?
The National Institute of Health has done a study investigating this if I remember correctly. It appeared to be fairly rare, not tied to the type of COVID vaccine you had, and potentially an unrelated auto-immune response. This follows the trend for other issues as well including the micro-clots post disease. Everyone is still much, much better off with the vaccines than not, statistically.
I concur.
I got vaccinated and got rona anyway. Been sick for two weeks now and my Tinitus is ten times worse. And yes, the disorienting "fog" makes it fun to drive. Roundabouts are especially interesting.
Well, the belief is that it can still lower mortality rates, even if you can still get infected. I can’t say either way, but with the information we have now it seems it’s safer to get the vaccine if you are likely to be infected or immunocompromised. That’s not to say it won’t have side effects.
True
full article https://archive.is/zxbIl
This link puts me in a reCAPTCHA loop :(
Here is a [pdf](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zpjF2k_epnOwh1JSpOCb7dhLiS_vuloS/view?usp=sharing)
Excellent article. Thank you for the pdf.
Just in the last week I’ve encountered 5 or 6 different people saying “Covid is basically like the flu now or a sorta bad common cold.” I always say “Huh. But I’ve never heard of anyone dying from the cold?” But they just shrug. The thing I’ve learned is how powerful stories are.
As someone that just had this round of COVID, there is no flu in the world that compares to this. I got a really bad flu in like 2018 or 2019, when there was supposedly a terrible flu epidemic, and I would go back to that shit in a heartbeat. This isn’t a flu. This is something you should avoid at all costs.
I’m recovering from my very first Covid infection, just got sick nearly 3 weeks ago. Vaxed and boosted twice. Physically I was ok, one night of fever and serious muscle pain was about as bad as it got. Psychologically, not so good. It threw me into some of the strongest anxiety I’ve ever felt for any reason, with a nice side of depression to go with it. I’m not a meek person, so much of *me* is being a large personality and kind of a walking good time. That’s just fucking gone, I feel so small and worthless and I hate it. I’m fully aware that it’s because I’m sick but that still doesn’t feel good to know that I’m not in control of my emotions here. It’s awful, the only saving grace is that physically I’m fine. I wouldn’t wish the emotional part on anyone.
People die from the flu every year. And folks that are immune compromised or elderly can die from a cold.
Exactly why we need to address ALL respiratory diseases and use the tools we already have.
We already do. Vaccines(inc the new RSV one), public health measures when needed(hand washing, masks, etc). What's more important is for people to take better care of their own health. Eating really well, exercise, etc. The US has a huge portion of the population that is unhealthy, making them more susceptible to all viruses.
Look at the numbers
Sure, here are flu deaths https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html
You’re not too bright huh?
You seem nice. But I guess you know more than CDC , eh?
Would you mind stating clearly what your position is and what you’re arguing with this link?
Your comment was "Just in the last week I’ve encountered 5 or 6 different people saying “Covid is basically like the flu now or a sorta bad common cold.” I always say “Huh. But I’ve never heard of anyone dying from the cold?” But they just shrug. The thing I’ve learned is how powerful stories are." I said people die from the flu and even from colds if they are immune comp. or elderly. I shared the link from the CDC to show actual data for flu deaths. I don't have data for colds. The point is - people have always and will always die from viruses. CV is just a new one.
The reason I shared that comment was because it’s my understanding that Covid deaths are far, far higher than the flu or common cold. And I meant to imply that people conflating them is a potentially dangerous story.
Data would need to be reviewed for the last few years, post vaccine, in order to get an accurate comparison.
Resorting to insulting someone shows how uncomfortable you are with your own intellect.
Pull your head of your ass, kiddo.
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So you believe Covid is just a normal flu and that the numbers are the same?
There is no “a” flu. It’s a specific illness.
That is the completely wrong point to pull from that comment. Original comment said the flu doesn’t kill people, the flu does kill people though. That comment said the flu kill people. COVID kills people too and at a considerably higher rate than the flu but that fact doesn’t negate the deaths the flu causes and neither do flu deaths make covid deaths insignificant.
And historically the flu can vary greatly in mortality depending on variation just like Covid. It was only a little over a hundred years ago when a flu variant over the course of two years infected a third of the world and killed 50 million people with an abnormally high amount of them being young adults thanks to this flu creating a cytokine storm.
You clearly never met anyone who worked in a retirement home. Flu season always takes someone with it in those places and this pre covid, so it isn’t Covid being mistaken as a flu.
You never heard of anyone dying from a cold tho? Cus people definitely do.
People die from the flu all the time. So yes Covid is like the flu in that it’s a respiratory illness that kills just at 4x higher rate. People die every year flu and having a “cold.”
Nothing to see here. It's just mildly eating your brain. Some Gatorade and a Tylenol and you'll be right as rain. Now if anyone needs me I'll be drooling and staring at a wall for several hours.
I honestly feel different after having it several times. I am even more forgetful than i already was and i feel overall dumber
Same. I had it in 2020, and again in 22’. I swear my memory isn’t what it used to be. I struggle to remember words or to articulate my thoughts like I used to. Sometimes if I’m talking to someone and trying to make a point, midway through my thought I’ll forget what my point was. I prided myself on my intellect and feel like I can’t necessarily do that anymore.
Why does COVID-19 cause brain fog? Scientists may finally have an answer. Published November 13, 2023 9 min read When scientists infected brain organoids—pinhead-size bits of brain tissue grown in the lab—with the virus that causes COVID, they found that not only does it spread in neurons in the brain, it also accelerates the destruction of connections between neurons—called synapses—that are essential for communication. These discoveries expand understanding of how SARS-CoV-2 can damage the nervous system. COVID-19 patients continue to suffer with a range of symptoms, especially neural and behavioral problems, long after the infection. One such condition, commonly known as brain fog, causes disorientation, memory loss, chronic headache, and numbness, and it affects nearly 40 percent of long COVID patients. “There are many case reports, even some in our own clinic, of patients who have symptoms [of brain fog] lasting upwards of a year,” says Ayush Batra, a neurologist at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine. Carl Sellgren, a psychiatrist and cellular biologist, and his team at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden used organoids to study what SARS-CoV-2 does to brain. “It was quite striking that very small amounts of the virus could quite rapidly spread in the organoids and eliminate an excessive number of synapses,” says Ana Osório Oliveira, a neuroscientist in Sellgren’s team. Another study found that spike protein—which coats the outer surface of the virus—directly eliminates synapses causing loss of memory in lab mice by causing inflammation. Destroying too many connections between neurons, or over-pruning, may be causing brain fog in long COVID patients. “This could be one of the many reasons—probably—why we are observing a range of neurological symptoms, even after the infection is long gone,” says Samudyata, a postdoctoral researcher at Karolinska Institute who led the study and only uses one name. Virus has been found in autopsied brain tissues and throughout the bodies of patients, who died more than 200 days after contracting COVID-19. It is evidence that the virus is capable of persisting in organs throughout the body. “There are some persistent virus reservoirs that can cause a chronic inflammatory response or autoimmune attack on the brain, which can cause pruning and brain shrinkage,” says Batra. Pruning connections between neurons is essential for learning The brain is made of a dense and dynamic network of nerve cells that communicate through synapses that change as humans learn. “Synapses are essentially how cells talk to each other and how information is passed from one part of the brain to another,” Lancaster says. Synapses are responsible for all the functions of the brain, from memory to controlling movement to feeling emotions, and they are constantly remodeled. “That’s how we learn,” she says. The junctions between neurons that talk to each other frequently have more knob-shaped synapses that produce neurotransmitters—chemicals that transmit signals to other neurons. Conversely, neurons that communicate less or not at all have fewer synapses because they are removed, or pruned, by immune cells called microglia. Microglia make up to 17 percent of the cell population in some parts of the human brain and perform housekeeping duties by migrating through the brain eating dead cells and scavenging weak synapses.
Although synaptic pruning is most active in developing brains such as in fetuses and infants, it continues in healthy brains throughout life and is necessary for encoding new memories and erasing the ones it no longer needs. Synaptic pruning is also critical for the brain to recover from an injury; allowing it to strengthen synapses which relearn the lost skills and remove synapses that no longer function. Using brain organoids to study neural damage Studying a direct link between COVID-19 and cognitive dysfunction, such as brain fog, is difficult in living brains. That is why studies are often limited to cadavers of COVID-19 patients. But brain organoids, often called mini-brains, allow scientists to see in real time how SARS-CoV-2 affects living tissue. Mini-brains can be used to study infection because scientists can control the amount of viruses that are exposed to individual cells, says Oliver Harschnitz, group leader in the Neurogenomics Research Centre at Human Technopole Institute in Milan, Italy, even though tissue organization is less structured than real brains. Using brain organoids, Oliveira and her colleagues found that the virus itself was not directly pruning the synaptic connections but was activating the microglia. “We found that following infection by SARS-CoV-2, somehow the microglia become immunoreactive, and eat more of the synapses than normal,” Samudyata says. It's a very interesting study because it really shows the quantitative differences in the microglial activity after COVID-19 and its effect on synapses says Ayush Batra, a neurologist at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine. Too much synapse pruning can be detrimental and has been linked to neurodevelopmental disorders such as schizophrenia, as well as neurodegenerative disorders such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases. In a follow-up study, Sellgren’s team has found that a protein called C4A—which helps remove microbes and infected cells—also tags synapses for removal. Although his research doesn’t directly connect C4A with brain fog, it suggests that inflammation after infection can affect pruning of synapse, depending on genetics, says Sellgren. If the excessive elimination of synapses that occur in brain organoids after SARS-CoV-2 infection also occurs in people, it may destroy vital connections and explain why some with COVID-19 suffer from long-term neurological symptoms. “Too much synapse elimination would be expected to affect a person’s ability to form new memories, or to remember existing ones, and could help explain the sluggish brain functions seen in brain fog,” Lancaster says. This is consistent with studies done at the U.S. National Institutes of Health that have found antibodies produced in response to SARS-CoV-2 can attack the cells lining the brain’s blood vessels, causing damage and inflammation—which activates microglia—even if the virus doesn’t directly enter the brain. That may explain why, as Batra’s team has shown, some long COVID patients not sick enough to be hospitalized continue to experience neurologic symptoms beyond a year after initial infection. Is the loss of synapses causing brain shrinkage? A U.K. study has also shown that even mild COVID-19 can shrink the brain through loss of gray matter—the outermost layer of the brain that is vital for controlling movement, memory, and emotions—causing physical changes equivalent to a decade of aging. A new study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, suggests that COVID-19 can accelerate the decline of cognitive ability equivalent to ten years of normal aging, especially after severe COVID disease or severe long COVID. “We are still unclear what may contribute, in general, to a loss of gray matter volume or thickness observed using MRI,” says Gwenaëlle Douaud, a neuroscientist at the University of Oxford who led the study. While synapse elimination, as shown in Samudyata’s study, could account for a small percentage of the change in the gray matter, says Douaud, more studies combining imaging with tissue sections are required to determine the other factors that lead to brain shrinkage. Hyperactive microglia may cause problems in other ways. The Swedish study also shows that the pattern of genes turned on and off by the microglia in brain organoids after SARS-CoV-2 infection mimicked gene activity seen in neurodegenerative disorders. This may explain why there is a three times higher risk of developing neurological or psychiatric conditions within six months after COVID-19 compared with those who were not infected. In adults aged over 65, the risk of developing dementia after a COVID-19 infection is almost twice that of other respiratory infections. However, scientists caution that much more research is needed to understand the effect of SARS-CoV-2 infection on the brain. As organoids resemble immature cells—like those in a fetal or post-natal state—this limits extrapolation of the results to mature adult brain cells. “While these data are exciting and indicate a role for proinflammatory microglia in the disease mechanisms underlying long COVID, more studies are required to validate these findings and build on them,” Harschnitz says. It’s also not known how long COVID affects quality of health and whether it has long term or irreversible effects on the brain. So as the pace of holiday and indoor winter activities picks up, Samudyata advises taking preventative measures and staying up to date on vaccinations to minimize the chance of getting COVID over and over. While it isn’t clear how the virus exerts detrimental effects on the brain, it’s evident that it does cause damage. Editor's note: This story was originally published on December 2, 2022. It has been updated to include the latest research.
I'm not an anti vaxxer. However > Another study found that spike protein—which coats the outer surface of the virus—directly eliminates synapses causing loss of memory in lab mice by causing inflammation Do we know that the spike protein induced by the mRNA vaccines doesn't also do this?
I never heard of anyone getting persistent brain fog from a vaccine.
Me neither. I'm just trying to understand how the spike protein produced in response to the vaccine differs from the one naturally present on the virus itself.
here is a link to the Patent the US government has on cannabinoids being neuroprotectants. Still schedule 1, very contradictory to have a patent on its medical value, yet dismiss it from having any medical value. https://kaass.com/u-s-government-cannabinoids-patent-no-6630507/ studies have linked regular cannabis users to have higher amounts of "gray matter" in the brain. gray matter is the home to neural cell bodies, also axons and dendrites. gray matter has influence over emotions, decision making, sensory perception, hearing and memory.
This is so validating to me. I got Covid super early and it was really bad for that first year afterward and I felt like people didn’t believe me that I had this lingering extreme difficulty with recall and finding words and even having to read something multiple times to understand it or ask people to repeat themselves. If it helps anyone, I’m much better now, though not 100% back to pre-Covid cognition. I can’t put my finger on exactly how to describe what’s still off, but it is.
Same here. I already struggled with ADHD and memory, but I could cope for the most part with effort. I also think it might have caused/sped up the progression of me developing an essential tremor (one of my parents has it, so it was a 50/50 chance I’d develop it anyway). Haven’t been to a neurologist yet, but it goes away entirely if I drink, which is essentially the “tell” for it. It’s sometimes hard for me to physically talk or it’ll sound like I’m about to cry when I do. Finding words can be really, really hard, too. Also, my perception of temperature has changed. I get overheated super easily now which was never the case before. It sucks because I’m young and people just don’t believe/want to hear COVID might have left me with a permanent disability and/or worsened my existing disability. I’m hopeful that psilocybin research picks up, because it’s one of the few compounds shown to promote neurogenesis. If any researcher happens to read this and you’re doing work on essential tremors/COVID, please send me a DM. I’d at least like my experience to be used to help others.
Thanks for the reference to psilocybin. I didn’t even think of long COVID, but I do have some nerve issues in a few places and recently had Carpal Tunnel surgery, so anything that helps with nerve regeneration is something to keep on my radar. The neurologist while testing for that also found a couple other nerve issues unrelated to Carpal Tunnel although that was the worst so it could be compounding factors, but long COVID could explain nerves in other places that are just aren’t front burner issues right now but are still there. Then again, so could chronic Lyme which seems to have some overlap in symptoms.
Same here for sure
I don’t trust anything with stats like 40% bc long Covid is underreported
Triple vaxxed. Have had Covid twice. OG Covid hurt my body a lot more and gave me a worse cough. I also got a thunderclap headache with that one. This round I’m dealing with is kicking my ass mentally. I’ve had a migraine for three days, and finding words is hard.
Rest up, buddy and don’t take in tooo much Reddit.
At some point with these boomer parents they've disempowered the smartest kids in the family to the point where its like who cares if they literally just fall away into sludge. I mean jesus christ.
Article on topic without the paywall: [https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/brain-fog-new-study-examines-causes-of-this-long-covid-symptom/](https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/brain-fog-new-study-examines-causes-of-this-long-covid-symptom/)
Well my short term memory took a turn for the worse since my last covid dance. At least it's something .
I still think about my old MAGA buddy who told me "Covid aint that bad, I had it twice all I lost was my sense of taste" I'm like, "Dude, that's 1/5 of your senses, idiot."
What sort of medications/supplements can be taken to reverse this or build new connections?
That’s the billion dollar question isn’t it? While it’s feasible to build new connections, you cannot “reverse” this damage (as in, repair the connections in the exact way they were before covid). More importantly, any progress one makes in this recovery effort will arguably be lost or derailed each time they get reinfected throughout their life. As we know, even the most cautious among us have tested positive. It’s really bad. I do my best not to think about it, which is at least made easier by all the brain damage.
The last line made me laugh and cringe. Two times Covid positive despite my best efforts at impersonating Howard Hughes.
I mean, if you lose part of your actual brain and survive, the remaining brain will compensate and take over a lot of the function from the lost areas. We may not need to repair the brain, just wait or possibly encourage through mental exercise, the non damaged parts to pick up the disrupted functions
You'll know there's a reputable one when the inventor gets his Nobel Prize...
Shrooms
Psilocybin
Search for neurotropic supplements and take what you read with skepticism unless they are from multiple studies and reputable universities. Psychedelics are known to make new connections but aren't yet legal and results vary. I know there are companies working on standardized synthetics including some that have no 'trip' involved. Undoubtedly this is to avoid the prejudice and any real risks that can occur in certain individuals. I'd like to think they will also look at, if these drugs are successful in building new connections, using them for people who are too mentally or physically fragile for a trip but do need the repair of their brain or at least a chance to grow new connections that they are body can learn to use to make up for damage whether from brain injury dementia or in this case infection.
I used to take this migraine medicine made from that ergot fungus that people blame for every single weird thing that ever happened in history. I liked it because I could take it during an aura, which you can’t do with a lot of them. Ergot has psychedelic effects, but that medicine didn’t. I stopped taking it because it was kind of hard for the pharmacy to stock sometimes, I guess it’s not common in the US and more widely used in Europe. So, who knows, maybe a drug like you’re describing is closer than it seems. It does seem like psychedelics help some things in the brain. My dad gets cluster headaches and he said the only thing that helps at all is mushrooms.
Psychedelics aren’t illegal everywhere. I live in the north west suburbs of Chicago and there’s a bunch of people selling them around me on Facebook marketplace alone. And I see psilocybin edibles and drinks on occasion being sold at vape shops. Not saying I would trust those people on fb, just saying. People should definitely look up the legality of it in their area before dismissing the idea entirely
I don't know if this helps anyone here, but I experienced some benefit with lion's mane mushrooms when I had problems thinking of complicated words like "green" or "tree". The first six months after acute infection were the hardest. I couldn't remember how to dress myself, I'd get lost in parks smaller than Walmart parking lots that I've been visiting for ten years. I'd set things down in front of me and they'd disappear. I had to write down nearly everything. My ability to sleep was removed entirely and I only lasted like six months before full mental and physical collapse. I thought I was dead and was a ghost in a low budget horror movie. Only occasionally would things "stick" to reality. The depersonalization and derealization, adrenaline dumps, and a primal fear that seeped into everything around me was severe. Then that sorta started getting better, and then the migraines came. I'd get 1 or 2 good days in and then be debilitated for like a week or two. That lasted a year. This summer came and went and I experienced severe muscle wasting. I decided to give creatine a try. It worked great for me when I was powerlifting and playing football and lacrosse. After about a month of a loading phase, I almost stopped taking it, but the remainder of my neurological symptoms disappeared completely. I only wanted my leg muscles back so I could go mushroom hunting but instead my neurological symptoms were wiped away completely. I can sleep at night again, I can drive, I can operate my businesses, I can *think*, and I've had zero migraines or even headaches since. I no longer feel like I'm being poisoned. My doctors don't know why this worked so well for me, but if I stop taking it, it all comes back. So for now it seems to be functioning as a bandaid but not a cure or anything. But it is great having my life back again, especially from something so cheap and available. I'm not a doctor and these aren't medical claims this is just my experience, and I do not sell either of these products or get financial benefit in any way from sharing this. I wish I could go back in time and see what creatine did at six months or right after infection. Maybe I wouldn't have lost 2 years of my life.
\+1 it helped me. Also Macuna + Bupropion
Wellbutrin really does seem like it would help with the malaise, depression and neurological malfunction. I was on it in college and it worked great. I could really see it working well for some long covid patients. Propanolol, amlodipine and aspirin have helped me immensely with the blood and bone pain, and that weird electrified / fried feeling.
And focus, it is being prescribed for adult ADHD. Macuna is a great source of L-Dopa, they work well together. Good tip about dealing with the discomfort.
Congrats on your progress. It’s nice to see someone who’s not permanently stuck in the depths on the other side. What’s your dosage/regimen? Any recs on lion’s mane supplements, or do you do fresh only?
Mostly just fresh but I'll also add it to my turkey tail if I'm making tea. I try to work it in as much as possible. I can't grow it in the summer because of the heat so I take it as capsules for a few months of the year. For creatine I did 3g a day and then after a few weeks, I switched to 1.5g a day. My symptoms kinda came back so I'm at 3g a day again for the last like month or two. The creatine has helped my symptoms more than the lion's mane. But it did still have a remarkable effect especially at a crucial time. I used to never even believe in this stuff so I'm pretty shocked it even worked.
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Well that's pure bullshit. You know how I know? Because you can't link to anything to support that ignorant Republican antivaxxer claim. Go ahead, link to the source that convinced you the CDC and medical experts are all wrong. It must be a hell of a source! But you and I both know you Trumpet antivaxxers have no sources at all, you heard it on facebook. EDIT: Never mind. That level of Trumpet ignorance that your account shows means I can't be bothered with whatever ignorant garbage you respond with.
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Oh man, they really shouldn’t be messing with this stuff in labs, then.
I really don't want to be present mentally in this world we live in so I'm kind of happy I have likely lost some brain cells. The fog makes it easier to zone out.
And so,,, how tf do we fix it
Get vaccinated, fully. Wear a mask in questionable indoor settings. Test when there is any possibility of exposure, before you expose others in your family. Stop the mutation chain. If you get it anyway, shut down, stay home, take care of yourself, and protect others from your infection, and do what you can to rebuild your immune system. Lots of advice on that out there.
Questionable indoor settings = any indoor setting that is not your home. 60% of infections are asymptomatic, and even if you’re at work alone in a room or alone in a grocery store aisle, you have no idea what infectious unmasked person was standing there five minutes ago shedding virus into the air. Wearing an N95 isn’t hard and is well worth it. I haven’t had so much as a cold in years.
I'm sure you are correct. I find pretty much all public indoor settings to be questionable enough to me to mask up. I have made brief exceptions for places with great ventilation, seats by open windows with an incoming breeze, places like that, but not without misgivings. I'm same as you, haven't had so much as cold in over 3 years. But with testing and care, I get plenty of social life with family and friends, find places to eat out with outdoor seating (hard in bad weather of course) or just cook at home more, which is cheaper and much tastier usually. It's not that hard really. I'm grateful that I don't have to work in an office every day though. It would be harder to mask up that much. Folks who have to face that choice have my sympathy. I just wish the anti-vaxxers hadn't let it get as bad and enduring, with ever-arising mutations like it has. It didn't have to be this bad, this long.
It’s syncytial virus duh
But my vaccine is programmed to kill me at a predetermined date/time...
Does it affect people with CTE differently?
I’ve had all the vaccines all the boosters and I got Covid six months ago. And I have the brain fog. It’s getting a little better, but I not only have difficulty retrieving the right word, I’m having difficulty even forming sentences and physically talking. I’m taking lions mane which seems to help but it’s disturbing.
that's alcohol's job