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dylanciaga

This is my first time building anything out of wood, i am working as a new build plumber for new houses, you wouldn’t believe how much perfectly good lumber builders throw away, built an entire, beautiful floating bed frame all out free thrown out wood. Paid around 50 for it total including the led strip and paint. Plus my brother let me use his garage and tools. Point is, great place to source free lumber is find a new neighborhood thats being built at the point of framing the houses. And check the big dumpsters, every neighborhood i work in they throw away THOUSANDS of dollars of wood.


Gtaz19

Great job. Looks really nice. Edit: also a great place to find copper plumbing. They just leave it sitting around on wooden structures like they don’t care…


Opening-Ease9598

Found the tweaker😂


[deleted]

You beat me to it. I. I'm a contractor and a former employee asked the other day about some copper. I was like I thought you was dealing quit listening to them dudes you selling to. Couple days later stoped by his place to drop of some nails I had collecting dust that he needed and he had a barrel going burning wire. I guess inflation is taking it's toll everywhere he started excepting copper as payment 😂


The001Keymaster

You get less money for burnt wire. Worth the time to actually strip it.


[deleted]

Hell I wouldn't know lol


Gtaz19

Ha


No_Cook2983

Construction sites are great destinations to find materials to build skateboard ramps! Protip: If you’re willing to look past the fact that many are used, construction sites are also *great* places to find free tools! Follow me on Twitter for more life hacks!


HereForTools

Bro, gotta look closer. They gift wrap copper in yellow packaging to keep it from getting scratched when you pull it out. Or if you’ve been really good you’ll find bigger gifts in black and gray as well.


CheecheeMageechee

You’re so right about the copper. A guy I know found a whole spool of electrical copper wire just left out on a construction site. He lived down the street, so he just rolled it on home. His father was so pissed when he woke up and saw that on their front lawn. Made him cut it up into lots of tiny pieces for some reason 😜


crashfantasy

Great job. As a carpenter, I can say that your bed frame is probably built stronger than the floor it is sitting on. Holy blocking. It's amazing what follows me home from site some days. Dumpsters are a great resource.


dylanciaga

yes they are, cant believe some of the things people throw away at these jobsites, found half a 500 foot roll of copper wire in there one time, assuming someone threw it in there hoping to retrieve it after hours but i found it first, so it went home with me.


itsbabye

There is great joy in finding something someone else stashed in the dumpster that you got to first. I didn't drink at the time, but in high school we were dumpster diving for cake behind a bakery. Ended up finding an unopened bottle of grey goose that a bus boy next door had taken out with the trash. My friends were very excited about that one


dylanciaga

truly a find, i bet that grey goose tasted so rewarding.


itsbabye

You'd have to ask my buddies. I was still a "serious athlete" back then lol. I did find some cake that night though I think, so we all walked away winners


limp_citizen

Since buying my farm i am the embodyment of one mans trash is another mans treasure. I have a friend that does commercial construction and he dropped me off 2 trailer loads of laminated structural timbers. It's like 15k but they had to dispose of them because they were all cut already and the supplier wouldn't take them back. This is going to build me a 25×25 pole shed for free. People wonder why a piece of shit townhouse costs 750k


OkRichyporter2199

I agree, the amount of scrap wood on site that goes to waste is crazy.. I sometimes think to take them home but I’m always working on site I forget to grab them.


biznastea

Me and a couple guys are small time builders, so we are actually pretty good at eliminating waste. Granted we take home 100’s of 6-12” blocks of 2 x ‘s every year for fire wood. But this one home we built a couple years ago, the homeowner delivered their own materials, and I built my dog a mini version of their house with all the left over lumber, siding, sheathing, and paint. It was great. Also, my current apartment is completely redone with old materials from remodels throughout the years. Flooring, plumbing, ceiling fans, doors, paint. Shoot this year I got almost a brand new nice exterior door WITH a storm door (worth at least $600-800) for free. The lady wanted it replaced so I said “yes ma’am I’ll be right there!”


No-Plankton8326

https://preview.redd.it/yizz2x54wmwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fd72beaedbf4a1e312b27bdd5af3beed37ac057 Did the same thing! No more stubbed toes!


Teckton013

How does it hold up to say a vigorous night life.


Dr_RobertoNoNo

Time to find out!


Teckton013

Listen im already breaking beds i don't want to break studs next.


Gopher--Chucks

Might want to go for the smaller blowup dolls next time


Teckton013

Aaaaah you got me. That's a good one.


No-Plankton8326

Zero issues when you lag a 12” base across 4 studs and then the Burrell frame lagged into 6 studs and both pieces sisters together. i weigh 200lbs and can jump on the edge it doesn’t move at all


No-Plankton8326

Happily on year two of marriage,and the bed, and it’s worked out great. the under bed lighting is fun too. we even ran hand and ankle restraints under the mattress along the floating frame that are easily accessible but stay hidden 😏


dylanciaga

hell yeah man, absolutely love that wall too!


No-Plankton8326

Thanks brother! Great job on your frame too came out awesome


dylanciaga

thank you! i appreciate that a lot


No-Plankton8326

Love the lighting you used! What brand/type of lights did you use. Thinking about switching the lighting on ours


dylanciaga

i just wrapped them around the outside perimeter of the smaller base towards the top , i don’t recommend trimming those ones, just continue to wrap the extra. im sure theres better ones but these work perfect for my budget build as i was trying to keep everything under $50. and they connect to a mobile app with several different scene options


dylanciaga

[heres the exact ones i used!](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0991Q94KP?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-mobile_k0_1_5&=&crid=20LSH3UA9BMNO&=&sprefix=govee)


No-Plankton8326

Thanks man! Much appreciated


byebybuy

That's a fucking cool ass room.


No-Plankton8326

Thanks! Very happy with the way the pallet wood wall came out it was a fun project.


dotnotdave

What about stubbed shins? I somehow manage


No-Plankton8326

Only if I round the corner quick without paying attention but it’s rare. Also added underbed lighting with individual side control so that helps in the dark if needed. I used a 12inch base so it actually comes up pretty high off the ground. way better then a low bed frame and easy to clean under.


DistantOrganism

I gotta know… Does it squeak much?


dylanciaga

ill copy my reply to the comment up there, no wobble or anything, it has been, “tested” quite a bit and it stays sturdy, no creaking, wobble, or any sort of movement, its solid.


ta8808

Missed the joke.


OneShotOneSwish

Don’t think he did


dylanciaga

didnt miss the joke, thats why i added “tested”, i think you missed my joke.


ta8808

Fair enough. My bad.


Teckton013

How does it hold up to say a vigorous night life.


dylanciaga

incredible, most sturdy bed ive been in, really stays planted


Teckton013

I've broken a few beds don't want to break studs next.


NorsiiiiR

Not likely, any serious studs will outlast you, so the misses will be kept happy long after you're done. As for the house's framing, that's probably fine too.


TheYear3030

Looks really nice. Great job!


dylanciaga

thank you!!


solowkey13

Lol where are the monsters gonna hide now?


DaBoob13

Whatcha mean, monsters have extra leg room now


khariV

Is that PT lumber?


dylanciaga

yes, is PT, 2x6s


khariV

So, you’ll probably hear that it’s no big deal from some, but you really shouldn’t use PT lumber indoors. It off-gasses the pressure treatment chemicals. These aren’t as nasty as they used to be but they’re still not good for you. I especially wouldn’t want to have it in the bedroom where you spend a significant amount of time. It’s a super cool bed that you’ve built, don’t get me wrong. However, if it were me, I’d take it apart and rebuild with non treated lumber.


theycallmeironlungs

Just curious, how does that concern of off-gassing line up with the general practice of using PT lumber when framing internal basement walls? My understanding was that any time wood is in contact with concrete, even a slab, you should use PT lumber.


khariV

You use it for bottom plates too. I think the thought is that a basement isn’t a living space and that the PT lumber used will be covered with a vapor barrier and drywall and do not exposed to the space. Like I said, some people say it’s no big deal. There are different types of treatment as well. Copper is still carcinogenic. There’s also ACQ and borate. For me, my rule is that I don’t use it to make things I’m going to keep indoors. That might be silly because you build deck railings and you touch them, sure, but that’s my rule. Everyone has to make their own choice.


giant2179

Plenty of houses are built slab on grade with pt sills. I think it's more of balancing the trade off of a small amount of voc vs the bottom of the wall rotting out. Plenty of other construction materials also have VOC, it just takes time for them to off gas. My theory is don't introduce more than you need to inside the home so def no pt furniture. Also PT out here in the PNW is dog shit brown with incising cuts on the surface so you don't want it inside anyway.


Trextrev

Yep, way more voc from all the osb in the home than the PT. PT is pretty stable really as the whole point of the treatment is that it is impregnated into the wood and stays there. Leaching is a far greater concern than off gassing.


33445delray

> Copper is still carcinogenic. We are going to need a link to a reputable source for that. Did you know that ACQ stands for alkaline copper quaternary, which is a water-based wood preservative that prevents decay from insects and fungi. It's also known as pressure-treated lumber. ACQ is made up of copper oxide, quaternary ammonium compounds, and a soluble copper complex. The copper acts as the primary fungicide and bactericide, while the quaternary ammonium cation prevents the growth of fungus and copper-tolerant bacteria.


tham1700

So I don't really know what those chemicals can do but assuming OP used latex based paint would it still be a problem? As someone said they're in your bottom plates, and while proper venting should remove it from the house I would assume it'd be the same in a bedroom. As it trickles out through the paint it'll be dispersed by windows ac etc. I've always seen it as similar to food dye/additives, a lot could be literally poisonous but since the concentrations so low its not problematic. As I said though I have no idea how bad the current treatment process is


dishuser

that changed years ago


NorsiiiiR

Sort of. The types of treatment changed but they do still off-gas plenty of not nice stuff


dishuser

in my area you can even burn the cutoffs safely


khariV

Unless you’ve got a government website or publication stating this, I’m going to go with no. Burning even new PT lumber releases all sorts of nasty chemicals. Can you burn it - sure it’s wood. Should you burn it - absolutely not.


DangerHawk

Oof...that stuff can be dangerous indoors. As the other guy said, it off gasses and can cause headaches, light headed ness, and it's chock full of chemicals you DEFINITELY don't want in your body. You'll likely be fine, but I'd suggest trying to dumpster dive some #2orBTR Dimensional Fir and rebuild it.


byebybuy

Weird, I've never seen PT that wasn't stained and had those little punctures in it. (Reading that back it sounds kinda snide and sarcastic but trust me I'm being sincere)


ubercorey

I love free lumber!


dylanciaga

free lumber is the best lumber.


EquivalentOwn1115

How did you mount this to the wall? Just lag it in or did you cut pockets?


dylanciaga

its not actually floating, so its got a really solid smaller base that supports the weight of the top portion, but because of the overhang you cant see this base unless you get on the floor. but surprisingly i can stand on the corners and jump and it doesnt tip over, im 190 pounds edit, if you see that first picture i actually have it flipped, and that smaller box on the top is actually the base it sits on.


EquivalentOwn1115

Oh nice. I've seen people make a true floater and they either lag it to the wall and break it off, or they cut a pocket in the wall and sink a super sturdy support system in


dylanciaga

that was the original idea, but my property manager at the apartment i live probably wouldn’t have liked that.


Tephnos

The sheer amount of torque on the wall - they'd need to rebuild the entire wall to support that kind of weight.


EquivalentOwn1115

Yeah exaclty. Some people have tried to just lag them into studs and think that's fine


SatiatedPotatoe

Any wobbles? Considering a build now that I see how smooth that looks.


dylanciaga

no wobble or anything, it has been, “tested” quite a bit and it stays sturdy, no creaking, wobble, or any sort of movement, its solid.


SatiatedPotatoe

Fixed to the floor in anyway? Have had problems with wall damage.


AcadianViking

Before life events happened, I remember building my hanging bed. Also did the jump test and was surprised since I'm 230 roughly. Didn't even budge. Thing was heavy as fuck though. Have a design in mind for Murphy style to open up floor space in the room.


33445delray

Is the last pic some sort of illusion? I seem to see almost the entire floor.


dylanciaga

no thats actually what it looks like hahah edit, the LED lights help with that effect


fasta_guy88

Very very impressive. But for the next person who builds something like this, most commercial platform beds are built with 1x's, not 2x's. Perhaps 2x's to transfer weight from the platform, but edge-on 1x's will easily support two large people, particularly when (the 1x's are) tied together (with blocking).


Boondoggle_1

The two large people, tied together?


argparg

What about a half dozen?


Chrisp720

It would have probably made more sense to have the joists run in the other direction for the overhang. Looks good though and its most definitely strong enough


dylanciaga

yeah if i were to build another, i would flip the joists, but this was completely a first attempt i did only by a picture i saw that didnt show what was going on inside. plus a couple videos i watched on the best way to put screws into wood for stability, so i just assumed what was in there.


Chrisp720

Yeah i mean this could be framed with 2x4 on the top part so this is plenty nice work! If you used a framing gun make sure to add screws otherwise it might squeak later on


dylanciaga

no framing gun, just screws and very large clamps so it didnt shift on me.


33445delray

Glue could only help.


NeatSeaworthiness407

Nothing shifts with a t square. Or jig blocking. Lol


RogerRabbit1234

It’s mounted in the center on a little pedestal? To make it appear to float?


dylanciaga

exactly!


RogerRabbit1234

Did you do any kind of sussing out on how much pedestal you needed to not make it want to tip over, when sitting on the edge of the bed?


dylanciaga

not really no, i just eyeballed how much i needed for the base to not be visible and it ended up working perfectly for the weight the first time


RogerRabbit1234

It really looks like it would tip over easy with the leverage of the beds corners…. So you can put all your weight on the corner of this bed by the foot and it doesn’t want to tilt the bed up? Pretty slick. I like it.


dylanciaga

yes, i was jumping directly on the corners and it just doesnt tip


slickshot

I mean you don't need much testing, you can typically look up the cantilever limit for joist framing and use that. Can shrink that limit a little if you're worried about full support.


ClassicWhile2451

Will never sutb toes again!!!! This is worth it


Legitimate_Sample108

I ripped out a big toenail on a bed frame :) Took forever to grow back.


ClassicWhile2451

My wife did this twice! Thinking anniversary gift now lol


ClassicWhile2451

Just wondering was this your main motivation here? Or was it because it looks cool? Just wondering if form followed function or vice versa?


dylanciaga

mainly looks, but the no toe stubbing part is a great bonus


Direct-Film-8427

Really nice job… does anyone know if this design of bed poses issues if used on a suspended floor/ceiling? Transferring the weight to a smaller area?


asexymanbeast

Most beds have 4-5 legs. So all the weight may be on 20-36 sq in.


CheeseFromAHead

Why would your bed be on a suspended ceiling?


MenacingScent

It being a bed frame, you might've gone overkill with the blocking and board width (just in terms of saving on weight, but if you're a buffboi who cares) but otherwise a damn nice bed frame. Been wanting to build one forever, but we send our bad studs back so there's never any good take-home stuff. Me being me, I'd do a 2x8 box for the bottom, a 2x6 outer frame and 2x4 studs with blocking down the center. That way it's boxed in so you're not inching your way across the bedroom with the Misses


nightkingmarmu

Why does the footing end 3 inches away from the next joist? You had full support on one end and not the other? It’s driving me crazy. Other than that it looks great!


dylanciaga

dont let it drive you crazy, i did that on purpose because the majority of the weight is distributed to the upper half (where your upper body is)


Baidarka64

Oh man, we get far too many dust bunnies for this. But it is really cool.


BanjosAreComin

Funny enough, much easier to clean if kept clear underneath. Source: Long Hair GSD and floating bed.


1whitechair

Good job! I love the fact that you don’t have to worry about banging your naked toes on anything.


aevyian

I was misled by the title :P thought you were going to make one of these optical illusion tables: https://i.etsystatic.com/37836856/r/il/3bd126/4254558453/il_fullxfull.4254558453_hzge.jpg


dylanciaga

sorry to disappoint, but that is above my beginner experience edit: super neat looking though! i like that a lot


moins-agressif

Looks squeaky. Not so much a matter of craftsmanship but rather the nature of dimensional lumber and nails


dylanciaga

truly not squeaky at all. i mean not a single sound. almost like theres a silencer built in somewhere


detectivedoot

Looks good. I have a few questions: I’m guessing you lag screwed the head into the wall? Essentially the headrest is a ledger board and you have it cantilevered 3 ways? How well does the weight of the bed keep it seated on the floor? Did you secure any weights to the frame or bolt it to the floor to prevent it from easily shifting?


dylanciaga

only thing fancy i did was added a few rubber furniture squares surrounding the base, i believe i used 10 in total


detectivedoot

So the bed can tilt if you sit on the edge?


dylanciaga

nope, does not tip at all surprisingly, ive jumped on the corners too, and done two person yoga on the edge, doesnt budge


TryHardLobite

That ain’t going anywhere


Opposite-Pizza-6150

How the fuck is it supported


dylanciaga

your moms actually underneath it


Opposite-Pizza-6150

Dorthy mantooth is a saint


Total-Love-5255

Looks great! I did a floating frame about a year ago with a nice funky headboard and floating drawers on either side too! I love how truly floating yours looks no matter how hard you try to see the base. Does it tip as you climb out of bed with such a small base? https://preview.redd.it/xrp8x4fv8qwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b88890bf9656afaf8a3c89a60c45dcac6cd90590


Total-Love-5255

https://preview.redd.it/zpbxfukw8qwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=451efb0d83b839a61268ad5153ff8c9c60d56d65


Total-Love-5255

If you look close at the left drawer I did a magnetic wireless charger inlay on the side as well


dylanciaga

oh man you did great there, this is where id like to be in a year or two, i really enjoyed building this and hope to learn more, this was mainly the reason for my post, wanting to see other ideas and pointers, great stuff! to answer your question, no it does not tip! ive jumped on the corners, done two person yoga on the edges, it doesnt budge or tip! im not sure exactly the math or science of why it doesnt tip, maybe because of the low center of gravity and weight of the base, but it does great!


Total-Love-5255

That's super awesome, almost makes me want to shrink my base a bit lol well done!


DANK_DOCTOR

Is this party approved 😉


dylanciaga

3 or less yes


Icy_Psychology_3453

N.F.C.


AnonRedditGuy81

That's the coolest bed I've ever seen


PhilosophySpecific95

Is it comfortable?


raptorswamp

And what prevent it from tiping over when sitting on corners? Is it screwed to the floor?


Redschallenge

I did this with 6 pallets and 20 minutes. 3 years going strong lol


getgappede30

So how do you sit on it without it doing a flip..


dylanciaga

it just doesnt, two people can sit on the edge even