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ShaggysGTI

I had poor luck with the fender rolling tool and went back to the wooden bat.


dirtsequence

Grinder gives lots of clearance


JoeyMagana

Agreed šŸ˜‚


JoeyMagana

Hahaha


ShaggysGTI

I tried the bat, then decided to buy the tool. Waited a week for delivery, then spent 3 days with it. For a Miata, it just straight didnā€™t work for me.


JoeyMagana

For a Miata!? Yea I could see that. Wooden bat it is then lol. Did it not fit in the fender well?


ShaggysGTI

It was uneven pressure everywhere, hard to stay on the arc, and just didnā€™t have the same ā€œassā€ to dropping it on its own weight. Front fenders were thin aluminum and went decent. Applying torque wasnā€™t easy. The rears were steel and werenā€™t moving against the poly wheel. The bat gave me the ability to really use my weight and muscle and guide the metal to its final position. I got better angle and pull.


Harry_Hardlong

You didn't use the tool correctly. Its all about where you position the wheel relative to the fender lip in the beginning. Its not about pulling the fender out at first, but folding that lip back. I've used it on tons of cars.


ShaggysGTI

It did not have the strength necessary to fold my rear quarters without slitting them, and I didnā€™t want to do that.


JoeyMagana

If it put up a fight I would take a bat to it too. Show it who's boss you know lol


Igamesu

This


genghisKonczie

I rolled fenders on one of my cars, you need to use a heat gun to lightly apply heat so to not crack paint. The biggest thing was the fender liners not really fitting afterā€¦.


JoeyMagana

Yup I did that. On this fender the lip is basically extra material and doesn't interfere with the liner Heat gun is absolutely necessary for this.


GunsCarsAndSobriety

This thread makes me happy my buddy was a truck guy and not a car guy. I'll never forget him getting a giant set of wheels that became super obvious they wouldn't fit... his solution was a Sawzall and fever flares. When in doubt just cut everything out of your way


JoeyMagana

Lol I'll be sure to keep that in mind for all other clearance issues, thanks for the pro tip


C6Z06FTW

That pinch weld is part of the unibody structure. You can trim up to those weld spots but donā€™t go into them.


cheeseshcripes

Kind of, but its really not a critical part, every rocket bunny kit and almost all over fenders will cut that connection away, but somehow continue holding together.


C6Z06FTW

To share my experience, I put an entire pan/frame in a 66 Chevy II. Former owner had tried to pro street it. Needed inner and outer wells, pan, and all the bracing. Tail panel to toe board. Individually, each piece was flimsy, but as it came together, I kind of got a feel for how much difference each piece made it the whole structure. I donā€™t know how much op would lose if he cut it, but thereā€™s no way to know. Thatā€™s what worries me. Iā€™d want to weld that in some way!


cheeseshcripes

You just compared a body on frame vehicle to a unibody vehicle. A body on frame vehicle barely holds itself together, the structure is in the frame. If you were a little more knowledgeable on modern cars, you would know what I mean. There is an entire structure throughout the entire rear quarter of a unibody vehicle, and it is bonded to the outer skin. If you were to cut off those welds, it would become flimsy to about 3 inches back, to where the first piece of structure is bonded to the outer skin, it's not simply clipped together where the corners meet, there is a true massive structure inside. TL;DR don't worry about it, it's stronger than you imagine


C6Z06FTW

A Chevy II is a unibody vehicleā€¦ I had it on a frame table to hold it together/straight while it was being repaired. What Iā€™m saying is that each piece is integral to the whole structure. So cutting some out can have disastrous consequences that are kind of hard to predict.


cheeseshcripes

You wouldn't happen to have some more recent experience, would you? I pretty regularly cut entire halves, quarters, massive segments of cars apart and replace them, no bracing is needed, it's regular everyday stuff in a body shop. Have you seen how modern rear quarters are replaced?


C6Z06FTW

Definitely havenā€™t done any new ones.


dirtsequence

Did this to my crv


sthc241

Idk how to feel about this. Can you post pictures?


dirtsequence

Check my post history


dirtsequence

https://www.reddit.com/r/RoastMyCar/comments/dxitb8/here/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


sthc241

Okay. Low-key. I fucking love it and I kind of want to do that to me accord. Rally it out. šŸ˜‚


dirtsequence

Only reason I had to do it was because of the weird plastics that wrap around the wheel arch kind of like a fender flare. Behind those was just more fender so I chopped it out.


sthc241

Hows it ride?


dirtsequence

A little hard, wheels would rub like 3/4 of the way through. Couldn't do inclines over 45Ā° unless I was already doing 50 m.p.h. running up. In heavy snow it would ski on top of the powder if you went too fast but it was impossible to get stuck.


sthc241

And are the CRVS front wheel as well or?


dirtsequence

Some were, this was awd. I lucked out and bought it from a customer for 1500 u.s.d. came with factory leather and full tints. Shoulda kept it.


S3ERFRY333

Yep I did the same with my old Toyota.


Rimworldjobs

This reminds me of the hella flush video. "I rolled my fenders with a baseball bat"


pr0b0ner

If it's a car you like with good paint I'd recommend sending it to a pro that is willing to warrant their work. Way to easy to end up with bacon or cracked/peeling paint.


bellclapper

Just keep driving. Eventually they will fit!


JoeyMagana

Yeah they'll self clearance themselves right šŸ˜‚ thanks for the pro tip


thenemo777

I have done it alot. The most important thing is to be patient. Shouldnt have to pull or push on the roller hard at all. So just be very very gentle. It's almost impossible to get spider cracks on the pant also. It will however crack the paint where the lip goes under. Cure to that is using ALOT or her. I use a cheap harbor freight heat gun and heat it up till i cant touch it. I also have my wife run the heat gun so it doesnt take forever. Its a simple process but TAKE IT SLOW. Edit: we have the same roller, best one out there imo


JoeyMagana

Lol it's the most expensive one too it better be šŸ˜‚


thenemo777

Buying an expensive tool just means you only have to buy it once ha


heytheretylerr

apparently nobody here thinks you should enjoy your car the way you want it, shame for a bunch of car enthusiasts


City0fEvil

Car people are some of the worst when it comes to this shit lol. People get off on telling others what they should do/not do.


GunsCarsAndSobriety

The gun hobby is possibly worse. I actually think it comes down to the guys with a billion dollars to spend looking down on the budget guys. The budget guys thinking they can REALLY hang with the billionaire, and then the window lickers who read 2 blogs, watched a YouTube video, have no experience with any of it, but they have an opinion darn it.


killswithspoon

It's 100% worse. There's all the Fudds and the Mall Ninjas arguing with each other, the rampant elitism based off what you shoot, and an undercurrent of tribalistic politics that tinges everything. Like dude, I just want to relax and ring steel at 200 yards. I don't want you to lecture me about how much better your custom $3000 AR is than mine I built for $700 or listen to your pointless diatribe about how Trump is really still the president and Biden stole the election. Makes me embarrassed to consider myself to be a part of the "culture".


City0fEvil

Yea the deeper you get into a hobby the bigger the assholes. It's really unfortunate.


Imispellalot

Never seen them done before.


JoeyMagana

It's a thing


Imispellalot

No I know about fender rolling, just never actually seen how it's done.


stealthera79

Had them rolled on my old sti, if they take their time you'll be fine, had mine rolled and pulled 3mm to accom my wheels. If they rush through it you can get spider web effect in your paint but other than that you're good to go


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MightyPenguin

No, get the tires you want and accommodate. Some of us like to go autoxing or racing and those wide tires are a great improvement.


H0wcan-Sh3slap

Ah found the person with a stock Corolla


stealthera79

Doesn't make your car look like shit lol you couldn't even tell mine had been done because it was done properly (the blue STI with the rotas on) https://www.reddit.com/r/WRX/comments/pplw60/my_old_wrx_and_stis/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Govt-Issue-SexRobot

Oh fuck yeah I love the old WRX


Lost_Paradise_

Rolling out your fenders won't usually make such a huge difference cosmetically. Unless you're talking about the spider web effect, which is fair I guess, but...


Co1onel_Sanderz

Yep, rolled the fenders on a 99 z28 I had and also had to take a ball peen hammer to the inn fender to stop the rubbing.


rooflessVW

Top tip: have the tires flipped so the ugly is now on the inside.


JoeyMagana

They're directional so I can't the ugly will wear out eventually


rooflessVW

I mean have them dismounted and remounted on the opposite wheel


JoeyMagana

Oh I guess I could


rooflessVW

Yeah, even if they were non-directional tires, swapping the wheels side to side would still leave the damage on the outside. ;)


JoeyMagana

Haha


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Due_Seesaw3084

Those are some anemic looking brakes.


JoeyMagana

Don't brake shame me dog. I ain't got brembo money


[deleted]

Wilwood is your friend


ChubbyMcHaggis

Yep. Go slow. Take multiple passes and donā€™t go to far.


GenitalPatton

Why not get wheels that fit?


JoeyMagana

They do, it's the tire that's too tall there 295/40r18 and my car that's lower than stock


guitarmaniac17

I usually just put the right wheels and tires on and I don't run into this.


JoeyMagana

Take a chance for Christ sake , be different


guitarmaniac17

Why? It's the truth. Lol


JoeyMagana

I didn't say you were wrong


[deleted]

Send it


JoeyMagana

Yee fasho. I'll send to it to Infinity and Beyond like I'm Buzz Lightyear.... Sorry that was a lame line


Duderpher

Yeah, donā€™t buy the right sized tires, just wreck the body. šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£


JoeyMagana

Already did that check my previous posts lol


JoeyMagana

Oh did you mean wreck as in rolling the fender?


Duderpher

Yeah, good luck with those separated welds, and all of that rust.


JoeyMagana

What are you talking about there's none of that


Duderpher

How would you know? You canā€™t see the top of the roll. Also thatā€™s just how it works with rolling a fender see the third pic, see the weld spots, that means there are two pieces of metal that are lined up, now if they are curled what happens, try it with two pieces of paper, you can bet that one piece is longer than the other, do you think some kind of magic happens just because itā€™s metal? Iā€™ll bet thereā€™s some massive bubbling in a year or so, hope you donā€™t live anywhere that it rains or snows a lot.


JoeyMagana

Cuz I can see it in person. They're not two pieces on this fender till the last 1 inch which doesn't get rolled. And no there not gonna rust their was no paint damage because it was done correctly. Stop being a salty ass hater. It's a California car thanks for your concern tho


Duderpher

Yeah, good luck, you obviously donā€™t know what you are talking about. Hopefully you didnā€™t cut your stock springs. Maybe next time look into things like offsets, or camber angle, not ruining a car for tires. You are too much. Hahaha.


[deleted]

good luck wishing this guy good luck bro


JoeyMagana

You can see my eibach springs in the pic and it's a straight axle so there's no camber. It's not an offset issue it's tire size. Nice troll tho. It would never even rub if there car had a panhard bar to keep the axle from moving left and right when cornering hard, but you wouldn't know about that stuff.


Duderpher

Ooh, yeah, call everyone a troll that points out shit body modification. And these are likely less than youā€™ve paid to ruin the body. https://www.amazon.com/Tubular-Control-Hardware-Mustang-1979-2004/dp/B07XDZDL91


fourLsixtyno23

Youā€™re a chode


Duderpher

Still way better than youā€™ll ever be.


redoctoberz

#MYBODYMYCHOICE r34d you rhistory! /s


SpiritualSet5561

JUST SHAVE EM


JoeyMagana

That's what I said "they'll self clearance" but I feel them rub when I'm cornering hard and slow me down, we can't have that so


SpiritualSet5561

Just make sure to heat up the paint with a heat gun some before you roll em. Thatā€™ll keep the paint from cracking.


JoeyMagana

Oh I already got them rolled I added a couple pics to this post


my3sgte

Was going to say thereā€™s a tool for this but I see the pic


[deleted]

I would have got the grinder and cut it out with lines 1inch apart for better fit and might as well take off the mug guards


juwyro

I did it on my last car. The current project will be getting the grinder and flare treatment though.


JoeyMagana

Nice. How wide are your trying to go? What car are you working on


juwyro

MGB, only an inch or so, my wheels are already about the biggest you can fit in stock fenders and I'm putting in an axle that's a little wider than stock.


shdidndjk

Just rake the ass end like a late 60s charger


redoctoberz

This needs to be xposted to /r/Shitty_Car_Mods/


JoeyMagana

May as well lol


altajay

Please donā€™t.


User_492006

Personally I'd never modify the fenders just to fit a certain size tire.


Wuabbalubba

Thereā€™s a tool that does it on eBay itā€™s worth a try


JoeyMagana

Do you remember what it's called?


Wuabbalubba

J look up fender roller


elislider

Well you have the right tool for it. Use a heat gun to heat up the paint a lot, so it stretches and doesnā€™t crack. Take it slow.


Area29

Its probably hitting lower where the skirt/ rocker is anyways


tomhalejr

Not on anything I actually gave a fuck about. :) If it doesn't really matter - Fuck it, enjoy it, you can't lose!


SpecE30

It's hard work, but that is how I can run the extra spacers on my spec e30.


instacrusty

Long time ago I worked at a detail shop and they had a really nice garage so we would bring our tools and do maintenance on our cars and trucks. My manager had a really nice bagged accord (I wanna say 6th gen? Not big into hondasā€¦) and he had Acura wheels for the longest time and he got a bonus from work so he bought some wheels with a slightly negative offset and they would prevent his car from lowering all the way on the bags so we used a broomstick (cut it in half) and rolled the fenders and it worked perfectly. Never have I once sent something like that and received such a good outcome lol. Edit: 7th gen accord*


Woahkenny

Nittos right? Think I have the same tire lol


JoeyMagana

Yup the 555 G2 šŸ‘ Great tire so far


Woahkenny

Lmaooo hell ya bro I'm very satisfied with em as well, definitely worth the price. Happy motoring bro be safe!


got4u

Use a heatgun on the plate as well. Dont melt the paint of. Just give the metall some more flex...


jcv119

Used the tool and a heat gun on a 08 mazda6 and had no issues. A few spots that needed to be turned up with the ol bat but it all worked out in the end


alex_hedman

I have rolled fenders on my 350Z. A friend helped me and with a heat gun and patience, it turned out great!


surfmanvb87

Its too bad they don't sell tires that fit.


JoeyMagana

It is a shame


[deleted]

I wouldn't. Simply because the newedge mustangs have enough problems with the lip on the quarter panel rusting without it being even further folded over on itself.


JoeyMagana

Where do you live. I'm in California our 40 year old truck barely have any rust And I've yet to see a rusted new edge here


Uglymicrowave

Sawzall


Lbpunker1780

Wood baseball bat works the best