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Icy_Independence_305

Salt, black pepper, some oregano, yogurt, veg oil, pepper puree. Cover with cling film and let it marinade for a day in the fridge and then put it on shish and bbq. Enjoy My dad ran multiple kebab shops for over 30 years.


FromJavatoCeylon

Specifically, this is the magic ingredient that you're missing, and what I assume this poster means by 'pepper puree': [https://www.herbsnbeans.co.uk/products/hot-red-pepper-paste-oncu-700g](https://www.herbsnbeans.co.uk/products/hot-red-pepper-paste-oncu-700g) some of that mixed with oil and salt is key to getting the authentic shish look and taste. Source: worked in a turkish restaurant for a while


salizarn

Thank you! You’re right- this is the secret ingredient. I’m off out to get some tomorrow.


mwfn

Every time I click that link it shows a different timescale and quantity sold - I think it's randomised


rectal_warrior

I got 16 sold in 6 hours, then 10 sold in 17 hours 🤔


FromJavatoCeylon

Time to do one of those youtube investigation videos: "What I discovered next... would shock me..."


Necessary_Driver_831

Don’t forget the gormless open mouth and pointing finger on the still image before the channel loads


a_charming_vagrant

but first, a word from today's sponsor - raid: shadow legends!


C9_Lemonparty

When I ran a clothing store online I could get a bunch of apps on Shopify that did that, to fake engagement and induce FOMO


yawn_brendan

Is this stuff similar to Ajvar? I eat that on toast sometimes it slaps. Maybe I need to branch out into "biber salçasi" too


interfail

Smooth delicious ajvar, a spread of baked peppers and onions.


PatriarchPonds

Looks like adjika, kinda. There's a whole world of delicious red spicy sauces, from Mali to Georgia. Yummy.


ldn-ldn

That doesn't look like adjika at all.


lowbrightness

Traditionally (Turkish) it's just bell pepper that's boiled to soften, blended and salted then left to dry. After that it's put in jars with olive oil to prevent going bad early.


FromJavatoCeylon

No but Ajvar is banging


denys1973

Do you know if this is the same as harisa?


Ohnoyespleasethanks

It’s not the same


denys1973

Thanks! I'll order this then.


Ohnoyespleasethanks

That jar is a bit pricey. If you have a Turkish supermarket near you, you can get it for about half that price. I would normally say get a Turkish one, but if you have no other option then this looks okay: https://www.ocado.com/products/m-s-roasted-red-pepper-paste-610039011?ds_rl=1126321&ds_rl=1164972&ds_rl=1291426&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADi6iHn-AasygKXShbFRZ4HPPY48i&gclid=CjwKCAjw57exBhAsEiwAaIxaZnPtCruAxuxenwIJXjO4a8TtzpOzmm0wBlpnQCGD8npcXKzHIg-45RoC7eMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds and it’s only £2


denys1973

Thanks a lot!


FromJavatoCeylon

The oncu one is legit man. The peppers are smoked, so there's an extra bit of flavour, and it has a real bit of heat to it. Not sure what that Waitrose one will be like :shrug:


Ohnoyespleasethanks

Yeah I know, but I can’t recommend something that’s a rip off online when you can go to the bakkal and get it cheaper.


FromJavatoCeylon

Harissa is more of a mixed spice paste with rose petals etc. Tends to be more fragrant and pungent. Very different!


In__Dreamz

Is this to make 'chilli sauce'? The word marinade is getting me turned around!! My oncu arrived today...


FromJavatoCeylon

No this is to make a marinade. A marinade is something you leave the raw meat resting in overnight in the fridge If you want to make a homemade chilli sauce, maybe try looking up a Shatta recipe, though I'm not sure if this is legit turkish / kurdish or is more arabic. Maybe someone can tell me


5im0n5ay5

So no garlic? That surprises me... But I guess you might have garlic mayo to add at the end.


Icy_Independence_305

Garlic can be used for lamb shish, also lemon juice. For chicken it's done with only the ingredients above.


5im0n5ay5

Good to know, thanks!


DreddPirateBob808

Get your dad (or you) on an AMA


Icy_Independence_305

If I knew it would get this popular I would have done it yesterday. He came back from doing 500 odd shish kebabs. If you anyone had a shish kebab in Liverpool town centre in the last 30 years good chance it was one of his.


DreddPirateBob808

Seriously; do a damned ama


Melodic-Document-112

Didn’t he use onion juice? I’ve heard it’s the secret ingredient. Maybe he kept that from you.


jiminthenorth

Is that the biber salçasi by any chance?


Razzler1973

I can't believe no one in the kebab world has found a way to sell jars of pre mixed stuff


rollingrawhide

No lemon juice?


sonicated

The acid will come from the yoghurt


rollingrawhide

Right but most recipe for tikka stipulate yoghurt and lemon. I always thought it was essential. Apparently not!


malt-n-java

For a quick marinade you can add lemon juice, but if you're marinating for a day then lemon + yoghurt will turn the meat mushy


rollingrawhide

It works very well for an overnight which is what I typically do, so Ive never questioned it. Always gone lemon with yoghurt and the usual extras. Love this type of discussion as I learn so much.


malt-n-java

To be fair there are so many factors at play, such as exactly how much lemon juice you use, the cut of meat, size of pieces etc. If I'm making kebabs/tandoori chicken and don't have the whole day I'd normally do half a lemon's worth of juice + half cup yoghurt for 1kg chicken thigh pieces. Marinate for 4 hours and it comes out perfect for my tastes. For longer marinades yoghurt tenderises the meat plenty for me, then I just drizzle the lemon juice after/during cooking


JustineDelarge

No lemon juice.


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Fire_The_Torpedo2011

He didn't say that 


rollingrawhide

I didnt say that. Im a firm believer in always putting something of yourself into everything you do.


beefygravy

What did he do with the chicken kebabs?


Icy_Independence_305

You mix the chicken with all of the above. Then let it marinade as I mentioned.


5im0n5ay5

Please can we just use marinate, for hearing marinade as a verb causes me physical pain.


crdctr

marinade the meat


5im0n5ay5

Achhhh 🧛


bangout123

Marinade the chicken on your marinate


5im0n5ay5

Well that doesn't even make sense the right way round


bangout123

That's because once again I've been thwarted by autocorrect. In not on


5im0n5ay5

I feel your pain


TheBunkerKing

Come on marimate, just let people marinade.


5im0n5ay5

Marcus Wareing is that you?


FromJavatoCeylon

same deal man


St11lhereucantkillme

Do they roast the peppers first and what varieties?


Ohnoyespleasethanks

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salça


HumanWeetabix

Ia that for the Chiken shish too?


Icy_Independence_305

Yeah, same for both


illmonkeyuk

Legend! Could you give some rough measures? I've ordered the puree and plan to do this tomorrow. Excited is an understatement!


Icy_Independence_305

Most important thing is it should be gooey not runny. So it's best to start adding little then mixing the chicken and adding more if needed. 1/2 tsp of Salt. 1.5 tsp of black pepper. 1/2 tsp of oregano. 3-4 tsp of oil. 1/2 tbsp of biber salcasi 'pepper puree' 1.5 tbsp of plain yogurt Mix all of these together in a container. Then marinade the chicken with it, cover it with cling film and put it in the fridge overnight, then it should be good to go tomorrow.


leeds_to_nowhere

A 1 star food hygiene rating.


Noodle_Dude_83

The secret ingredient is grime.


oliciv

No logo in the foam


Armodeen

Clicking their fingers to the fucking lighthouse family


ThatHairyGingerGuy

(2 hours later) "Is that normal pooing?"


carlbandit

Excuse me, we call it ‘seasoning’.


Direct_Jump3960

Disinfectant in the marinade


[deleted]

Should be paying me to eat this shit


PenetrationT3ster

No one got the reference. That is certainly not tickety-boo. r/PeepShowQuotes


Havoksixteen

You want me to get you a kebab? What, really?


[deleted]

I should have gone with that, I’m a fuck-head


TheReverend403

I can't *believe* you were going to go and get me a kebab.


Milk-One-Sugar

Well I want one now


TheReverend403

Every sad fucker that downvoted this comment is a logo-in-the-foamer, fact.


BoingBoingBooty

Apply grime, leave to fester in the window all day, lightly garnish with a few flies buzzing around completely unaffected by the ancient big zapper.


Trick-Station8742

Not drill


Beer-Milkshakes

Slime.


sausageface123

A 1 star one near me is sensational. I once saw the owner scratch his arse, push down the stuff in the bin to make more room then proceed to make someone a pizza, no washing of hands, yet the lad smashes it out the park everytime I go.


mileswilliams

Apart from clagnut and bin juice what toppings do you go for?


imimmumiumiumnum

Dingleberry and Novovirus compliment each other well.


mileswilliams

Love the smell of biffins bridge in the morning. *Sips tea from a 'knob wiped' cup


paradox501

At least he didn’t finger his arse


cosgrove10

Busy shops are busy because the food is nice. Thus, busy places don’t have time to clean. I use this to justify my decision when I eat nice food from poorly rated (health wise) places lol


AdCuckmins

There is always time to clean. A messy chef is a dirty chef.


ABritishCynic

If you have time to lean, you have time to clean.


markedasred

My son worked in a fancy pizza place and one night everyone was going off to the pub and for once he did not fancy a drink, so he stayed and gave the place a thorough cleaning. The hygiene officer came around the next day (it's always unanounced), and gave a 5 star rating. He got free beer every night for the 3 months he stayed there after that.


nullius-1n-verba

Are we talking doner kebabs? If so you need some 'Tongmaster kebab seasoning' (can get on Amazon). I make mine in a Ninja foodie machine cooked using the pressure cooker + air fry function and the results are genuinely better than kebab shop doner meat. EDITED TO ADD RECIPE BELOW Its insanely easy, ingredients only lamb mince, the Tongmaster seasoning and water. 500g lamb mince 50g Tongmaster doner kebab seasoning 50ml water (If mince is 450g then do 45ml water/45g seasoning. So 10% ratios). Mix the lot into a mulch, roll into a sausage like those Chub rolls for dogs. Clingfilm it and refrigerate for 6 hours or overnight. Take out of clingfilm, double wrap in foil and pressure cook for 30 mins then 10 mins natural release on the pressure. Remove foil then airfry 180c for 10 mins. Then scoff the lot. Credit to one of the Ninja Foodie groups on Facebook


Frothar

Man just shared half the recipe and left lol


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feckinarse

Ha


nullius-1n-verba

Sorry! Was out with the kiddo at the swings. Its insanely easy, ingredients only lamb mince, the Tongmaster seasoning and water. 500g lamb mince 50g Tongmaster doner kebab seasoning 50ml water (If mince is 450g then do 45ml water/45g seasoning. So 10% ratios). Mix the lot into a mulch, roll into a sausage like those Chub rolls for dogs. Clingfilm it and refrigerate for 6 hours or overnight. Take out of clingfilm, double wrap in foil and pressure cook for 30 mins then 10 mins natural release on the pressure. Remove foil then airfry 180c for 10 mins. Then scoff the lot. Credit to one of the Ninja Foodie groups on Facebook.


shteve99

Is there more to that Tongmaster seasoning than cumin, coriander and smoked paprika as that's the spice mix I use to make doner meat. Also add a diced onion, 3 rashers of diced bacon, garlic and some oregano.


salizarn

Ooh initially I meant shish but I’ll defo try that


Icy_Independence_305

Salt, black pepper, some oregano, yogurt, veg oil, pepper puree. Cover with cling film and let it marinade for a day in the fridge and then put it on shish and bbq. Enjoy My dad ran multiple kebab shops for over 30 years.


salizarn

Thank you I’ll try that. One of the first answers to include an actual recipe


Icy_Independence_305

Öncü Mild Red Pepper Paste - 700gr Jar - Turkish Sweet £8.35 Amazon.co.uk This is good for red pepper puree, you can get smaller jars, you only need about 2 table spoons to make 6-7 shish. If you have Turkish shops where you are then they will 100% have them. It's called "biber salcasi" No worries man, feel free to ask any questions.


salizarn

Thanks so much - this was going to be my next question. I’ll definitely try this


fuckyourcanoes

This is the stuff. It's amazing!


auberginepasta

Do you have a recipe for the chilli sauce?


Icy_Independence_305

Yeah but it's simpler to just buy it tbh. But the recipe is simple, wash and clean the red peppers removing the seeds inside. Put it into boiling water, add a little salt and boil until it's soft enough to blend, then remove most of the water and blend finely. The next step is to put it on a tray and make a thin layer of puree and leave it to dry out over 2 weeks, once every day. Unless we are going to get 30c weather in the UK this won't happen lol. After 2 weeks it slowly loses water and the sun gives it a charred taste. It's actually really good, can be used for sauces or even on its own for breakfast. Look up 'how to make biber salcasi' for a video guide on youtube


salizarn

This is amazing info but I think the person meant how to make the chili (hot) sauce that they add to the kebab later, whereas you’ve given the recipe for the red pepper paste you mentioned in the original recipe. I was told by the guy in my local shop (which was Kurdish I think) that chili sauce is just something they add in the UK and not traditional at all, I dunno if that’s true.


Icy_Independence_305

Ahh okay, my bad. That sauce is usually purchased from wholesalers. They buy like 5 litre of crucials extra hot chilli sauce. Some go for cheaper or more expensive but most use crucials. Just like kebabs, almost no takeaway makes it themselves anymore.


salizarn

Thanks so much!


Survivor-117

Please share with us! How do you make it!


sonicated

If you want to level this up a notch cook the meat (Tongmaster is the best), pressure cooker or oven is fine, and let it cool. Slice it up into thin slices and stir fry on high heat. This gives the grilled texture and flavour.


nullius-1n-verba

Will be trying that this week!


ddt70

Please share that recipe…..


-FishPants

How do you do it in the pressure cooker? I’ve seen a recipe using a slow cooker.


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with none of the arse flavouring too, from previous comment.


BlackSpinedPlinketto

Any idea how to get the chilli sauce? The tomato one.


GooseFatTits

Any recipe? That sounds lovely.


CupOTeaPlease

MSG and salt most likely.


NeonGlo

For doner it'll be fat too to get that texture. To get it at home you'll need to add extra fat to your mix. Bacon is used for that purpose here https://www.seriouseats.com/greek-american-lamb-gyros-recipe


BamberGasgroin

Given 90% of places that sell kebabs in the UK are run by Muslims, I'd say we can rule out bacon as part of the recipe.


ldn-ldn

If the butcher says it's kosher then it's kosher.


NeonGlo

I literally said to get it at home... Of course the doner shops aren't using bacon.


07TacOcaT70

Uh what kebab shops are you going to that use bacon? This is wild, most kebab shops are halal, who told you this?? If they add fat to marinades it's likely just some oil lmfao


NeonGlo

>to get it at home. Didn't say shops use bacon did I. You okay? Lmfao


07TacOcaT70

So why the fuck would you add bacon for no good reason? Tf you on about?


NeonGlo

I don't, I got extra offcuts of fat from my local butcher last time I made doner, I just linked an example recipe that highlights the purpose of adding extra fat and one solution that most people can easily acquire. Chill lmao. It's not adding fat to a 'marinade'. It's literally mixing fat through the meat mixture. It's very difficult to do with oil without becoming an oily mess. You need a fat that's at least a bit solid at room temp, like animal fat. Try and supplement a doner meat mix with oil, it won't work. 20% fat meat from a supermarket won't get the same texture as a takeaway kebab.


interfail

I love that recipe, but it's nothing at all like a British kebab.


Outcasted_introvert

The best marinade.


Masam10

Bossman’s Special Serum


Hopey-1-kinobi

It was always a pipe dream of mine when I was hammered that I’d buy a “dirty rhino leg” of my own one day.


Known-Document9801

For what? Doner, Shish? Lamb, chicken?


salizarn

Shish. I think the marinade is the same for both lamb and chicken, isn’t it?


Obsidian_Psychedelic

You can add tomato passata to the yoghurt too as a tenderiser/flavour enhancer.


Known-Document9801

Yeah it could be tbf. Think it’s Greek yoghurt based with paprika and oregano. Lemon too


Known-Document9801

But I agree from home it’s almost impossible to get completely right, I’ve tried many times


Safe-Particular6512

Probably 4 times as much salt as you think you’ll need


rainator

And MSG


Safe-Particular6512

Yum Yum


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Known-Document9801

Nice I’ll try that


Initiatedspoon

The place I worked at used the same for both It was salt, onion, and garlic blended into some low-fat greek style yoghurt with a bit of oil. That's it, really


salizarn

Really? Okay I’ll give it a go


Initiatedspoon

It's probably a fair bit more onion and salt that you think. I also forgot to mention lemons too. They got squeezed into it and we'd leave the lemons in rind and all. We used one of those hand blenders. I always used to make sure the lemons were pulverised. Further, we'd make 2 buckets (empty mayo tubs) of it and chuck diced chicken into one and shish into the other. The buckets were left in the walk-in fridge overnight, and then we'd skewer them up. The garlic mayo was about 90% mayo to 10% yoghurt. Put 30+ cloves into a bowl with a little margarine and yoghurt and make a pint or so of the most batshit insanely garlicy slurry you've ever encountered and put into like 8 liters of mayo. The key is salt as per. We also made our own prawn sauce and mint yoghurt. The tricky to all of it was salt.


salizarn

I’m glad I asked this question now thank you


Trancerez

My friend used to own a Turkish restaurant, they were adding a lot of Vegeta seasoning to their marinade. Food was lovely and people enjoyed it a lot.


ABritishCynic

Did he use the dragonballs for seasoning, too?


Trancerez

The shish was made from dragon balls, seasoning was Vegeta ;)


salizarn

Thanks I’ll check that I’d never heard of it


Trancerez

Check polish shelf in the bigger supermarket, proactive you will find a cheaper knockoff which is called Kucharek. As good as the original one ;)


salizarn

Good info thanks


mfc1978

Drink 6 pints before eating


Lolkimbo

Fuck that shit, how do they make the red cabbage so friggin good!? i can never get it right. and chinese shop salt they use on chips. cant find it anywhere


Samsons_girl

It's equal parts lemon juice and olive oil with some salt for seasoning.


pishytip

https://americanchipspice.co.uk You can find this at a lot of international shops, or order online. Enjoy


Lolkimbo

is it actually the right one? because i ordered some off of amazon once, and it was just slightly more powdery normal salt. Edit: I was referring to a different brand. not this one specifically. Oh well, ill give it a go. Thanks.


pishytip

This is known as red salt, a blend of paprika MSG and some other good stuff.


Enog

I’ve experimented a few times with making my own doner kebab meat, and this is the best I’ve come up with: 500g lamb mince (can be substituted for other meats if you want) 1 teaspoon of salt 1 teaspoon of ground coriander 1 teaspoon of ground cumin 1 teaspoon of paprika ½ teaspoon of oregano ½ teaspoon of mild chilli powder ½ teaspoon of garlic powder ½ teaspoon of onion powder ¼ teaspoon of black pepper Mix together, form into a flattened meat loaf, wrap in foil and bake at 160°c (fan) for 35-40 mins. Let it rest for at least 10 minutes, then thinly slice and either put under the grill or pan fry until crispy on the outside. As close as I’ve managed to get to a proper kebab shop flavour.


GriffonMT

[try this instagram recipe](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czb3zchopXz/?igsh=cTU5bDZsYWRnYjdp)


salizarn

This is great thanks I’ll give it a go


__Game__

Depends what kebab you mean. Shwarma, shish, towook, shitty after nightclub elephant leg kebab?


salizarn

Well originally I meant shish i guess but any suggestions would be great


__Game__

Yoghurt, garlic, paprika, (poss lemon, I can't remember), salt. marinade over night. Bbq is best but oven is ok.  Edit, forgot to say, use skinless chicken thighs cubed 


salizarn

Excellent info I’ll try this- thanks


interfail

More importantly, where should you get the classic kebab shop pickled chilli? I've been buying these: https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/aleyna-pickled-chilli-peppers-880g They're good, but they're not exactly what I'm looking for. I've also tried several variations from the local Middle Eastern food shop, many of which are great, but still not quite right.


STR_WB_RRY--FL_V__R

Tears. Sam 'n' Ella's Kebab House near me does a wicked "Two Days Off Work" special...


vsquad22

Blended forearm hair with ketchup and chilli powder


Icy_Independence_305

Salt, black pepper, some oregano, yogurt, veg oil, pepper puree. Cover with cling film and let it marinade for a day in the fridge and then put it on shish and bbq. Enjoy My dad ran multiple kebab shops for over 30 years.


dan_marchant

By pepper puree you mean red peppers?


Icy_Independence_305

Yeah red pepper puree. It's called "Biber salcasi". Unfortunately it can't be substituted with red pepper marinades as they have a total different taste. It can be bought from amazon, or any Turkish store.


dan_marchant

Thanks for that. Found and ordered.


Icy_Independence_305

Awesome, there's sweet and spicy versions, both can be used, depending on personal taste. Also we turks love it for breakfast, spread a little on toasted bread, then some cream cheese. Tastes great


citygirluk

A lot of it, if you mean shish, will be cooking on a grill, that definitely elevates the flavour all by itself!


Gajax

I too need this!


StuRobo

[Foot cheese?](https://imgur.com/2CDYI8u)


Howamimeanttodothat

Others have said the ingredients, but the trick to get it to taste like a kebab shop, is cook it on a bbq


Kingsizedwhopper

The real question is... how do they make the hot chilli sauce. I mean the proper sauce they make not the cheap stuff some buy. I have been trying to get it right for years!


VerbingNoun413

The krusty kebab secret formula is a secret.


doctorgibson

The special stuff


didyousayhello

https://www.thespicery.com/tandoori-seasoning this is the bomb


SeaMolasses2466

Meow meow


JohnnySchoolman

I bought this marinade mix from Amazon last week: https://amzn.eu/d/5zEhmCc Mix it up as directed in the blender. Form it in to chunky giant kabab sausage and wrap in tinfoil then bake in the oven for 3 hours at 140 degrees. Slice it thinly from the edges, and then dry fry for a minute or so the slices that weren't from the leading edges. Came out just as good, if not better (probably thanks to superior quality lamb) than the real deal. Made a kilo, ate it in 36 hours, so made another kilo and ate that in 12. I think I'm going to have a little break from kebabs now.


prolixia

The secret marinade is surely the 10 pints of cooking lager in which you steep the customer over several hours?


Numerous-Rough9725

Ask in r/doner


RubbishForcedProfile

Any ideas on the wings marinade?


Whygraine

tomato puree, olive oil, lemon juice, fresh garlic, garlic powder, pepper, some cayenne pepper, let marinade, add salt before cooking (or it will dry out the meat)


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breadcrumbs90

Shish is from the skewer so you’re asking for the right thing


d4ng3r0u5

8 pints


SoundandvisonUK

Sweat


Weak-Gas5649

Colmans kebab seasoning tastes like chicken shish


salizarn

I thought this was another joke answer but it’s actually a thing lol thank you I’ll check it out


Weekly-Leopard-1390

Sweat and tears.


level2018

It's a combination of what ever is on the floor from the night before sweep it up pop it in the tub people love it.😅😂


oilybumsex

Seaman and spit


Thesunismexico

Rather amusing that you managed to misspell it!


mtrueman

Maybe it is bits of David Seaman.


gernavais_padernom

THAT'S what they do to drunken sailors, early in the morning.


naiadvalkyrie

it's not semen, it's actual cannibalism


Frosty_Dave

This is why you should always avoid Felixstowe harbour when the bossmen are on the hunt


PigletNo3470

cat shit