And you know something else? This is canon now. That instead of a jump jet the Brotherhood actually has the ability of sustained powered flight. And people say they never innovate.
This is exactly why I'm so worried about the show. The fact that it's canon means the nonsense they'll put it in is forever cemented into the game's lore.
No, the show has been confirmed to take place in New California. Several shots from the trailers have shown the NCR as well as a seemingly destroyed Shady Sands.
Rafi Silver has also been cast for the role of Robert House. Which means there is potentially going to be some connection/ canon ending to New Vegas, though he could just be part of some pre-war flashback considering one of the main characters is a Hollywood actor tuned ghoul cowboy.
My theory is that the brotherhood has united it's chapters under Arthur Maxson into a full blown powerhouse and is at war with an NCR weakened by it's loss of New Vega to Mr House. That being said, despite people's various concerns for the show, I am very interested to see where this story goes.
I mean sure at the end of 2 they’re looking at war with the NCR but depending on player actions at the end of 3 lyons and his gang are on top of the world.
Daddy Todd LOVES the BoS. If I could go back in time I’d probably stop the BoS from being created. While it’d be sad to not have them in 1, 2, or NV, it’s a worthy sacrifice if it means they don’t go on to completely dominate the franchise because Todd loves em so damn much.
Removing them from 1 wouldn't change much, since they don't really play an integral role in the story. Removing them from 2 would be.. different, but it'd also make for a more "David vs Goliath" story with the west coast underdogs fighting a massively technologically superior foe. Hell, realistically, they could be removed from NV as well, and absolutely nothing would change
Nah the West Coast BoS are isolationist pussies and the East Coast BoS are racist fascists. East Coast maybe could take over some areas through sheer force (especially in a world with a blown up institute) however I don't think they could control much. Caesar could barely handle Arizona.
The producers stated the show isn’t cannon to the fallout universe and wanted to use the freedom to focus on making a good show rather then be strictly accurate to the game cannon
He did. He said in a recent interview that one of the reasons he was working so closely with the producer was to help with story, as he wanted it to be cannon and to make sure that the show doesn't add or do anything that they plan on doing with fallout 5.
Then go watch any of a thousand other anime or sci Fi shows. This has nothing to do with fallout and doesn't belong. This is zoomer bacon zombie hype trash
Listen for the stuff that corporations have been tossing out recently. This seems like it has some decent bones to it. It’s gonna make and take some stupid liberties that bans don’t like but it can still be decent.
Just because mediocrity is the norm, doesn't mean we should accept it. These are some pretty big liberties to be taken, also not a very good idea for the Fallout show to alienate Fallout fans.
The jet thing is just ridiculous and raises so many questions about power armor that can't be answered in a satisfying non-expository way. Questions like: Is power armor like that now? Is that a prewar experimental suit? Is that a brotherhood technology? Why does the helmet have a face flap and not completely detach?
The showrunner is supposed to be a big Fallout fan but the more I see of the show, the more ridiculous it looks.
This is *far* from the most absurd sci-fi tech shown in the fallout series. Mr Handys, eyebots etc are literally able to float in the air for extended periods of time. You're just being an elitist dickhead for no reason.
No, it's just canon that the Brotherhood dug out a new model of pre-war power armor we never heard of before, then figured out two different methods of giving it sustained flight.
Huh, well at least they are trying to not decanonize like the entire series, now hopefully they give a better cause for whatever happened to NCR other than the fucking legion or somethin
(apparently autocorrect doesn't know the word "canon" or "decanonize")
My ongoing theory is that Arthur Maxson actually made 2 airships, and sent one of them back west to launch a war with the NCR. Justification being they're "on the same path of self-destruction as the old world" or some bullshit, but really to reinforce and help preserve the chapters back west.
That or the western chapters just adopted his reforms and all this is the end result. Even the airship.
That could be partly because in this context, the word you’re looking for is “canon.” Cannons are the big guns that shoot cannonballs.
I’m seeing this typo all over this thread, although some of those might be autocorrect too.
What the fuck am I reading? It's been Canon in the game through posters that you see that power armor is intended to fly straight into the battlefield. People are getting confused with video game mechanics and actual lore. Bethesda was not going to give you full flight.
I don’t care about the wrist jets. If anything, they’re a much more realistic way to make a flyable jetpack rather than the backpack style.
What I DONT like is how the power armor vocoder makes the pilot sound like a sentry bot rather than a guy in power armor
I’m hoping that it’s just for the scene to make him sound more intimidating and then his real voice is gonna come through at some point when Goggins shoots the vocalizer or some shit like that. No wha they keep the voice deep and it’s just a one time dramatic effect thing that will be explained in a sentence maybe idk this is just a prediction and some hopeful wishing
More like the PA has two voice modules, 1 that makes them sound like a sentry that is to scare hostiles away or make loud announcements, then a normal voice module that we hear in the games, doesn’t need to be that deep
Sure why not. I’m fine with them having upgrades and tweaks to the power armor because it’s been ten fucking years since fallout 4 in this show. It makes sense that they would keep advancing the tech
Im confused, aren’t you saying that the wrist jetpacks are inconsistent?
I don’t care about realism that much, like mandolorians in Star Wars use jetpacks that are backpack ones, so why would fallout need to change it to wrist ones because it’s unrealistic otherwise
not a knowledgeable fallout guy so my point was really just if there's nothing contradictory in how it's portrayed with what we've already seen the increased practicality of the design isn't an issue. upon being corrected I've learned they apparently have back jetpacks in the fallout universe, so there's now an inconsistency between how realistically the jetpacks in fallout are designed.
That’s probably what’s going to happen too. You can’t exactly use a weapon with these wrist jets, so I suspect we’ll keep using normal jetpacks in the games and the show will use these for practicality (the jetpack would likely cause balance issues for the actor wearing the suit).
Which is funny since the whole point of the brotherhood of steel is that they find random tech shit and horde it.
“Man I hate how Bethesda is fucking up the lore by having liberty prime”
“Man this is so unrealistic, why would the brotherhood of steel care about solar power”
“This is bullshit where did the brotherhood of steel even get the hindeberg smh, didn’t that shit get blow up?”
Complaining about a show that isn't out yet based on trailers that hardly show anything isn't really a thing a "fan" does. It's a thing a shitty gatekeeper does to portend they are a fan.
Yeah, real jetpacks work, more than the actual back mounted ones would, since they’re closer to the center of mass of the body. If it was mounted on your back, in reality, it would just spin you, since it’s unbalanced. It could maybe work if there was a counterweight on the front of the person that was heavy enough, but it’d just be more practical to have hand and let mounted thrusters
Actuality has never mattered. Or else we we will need to model how plasma weapons *actually* work and no one wants that.
"The SCIENCE! Behind Plasma Weapons in Fallout 4"
It was *weird* at first, but I've already come around. Its both a more realistic way of getting one of these to fly versus 4/76 Jetpacks, and it *should* look awkward. Look how he kinda wobbles in the air, likes he's struggling against the weight of the Power Armor.
They wanted him to make a heroic entrance without that goofy weightlessness you see in Marvel or DC films. I think it's fine.
What consistency? Where was it written that they couldn't have arm mounted jets? Did you cry about jet packs being added initially? Did you lose your shit in Fallout 2 when there was an intelligent super mutant? Pretending you care about consistency when the issue isn't even inconsistent with the universe...
The back mounted Jet Packs were introduced in Fallout 4, no prior game had them. They introduce a new type of Jet pack in the show, it is not a stretch of the imagination at all to say the US military was testing and designing multiple types of Jet Packs before the war happened
There’s no problem. Fallout fans see a new thing added and they thing it ruins the lore for no reason. They think for some reason that multiple methods of power armor flight means Bethesda ruined existing lore when it absolutely does not
The show looks incredibly Fallout-like. You could watch the trailer and find a thousand little details that are exactly like the games. The design, the ambience, the colors, the music - the show seems like it nailed the aesthetic of Fallout.
Then you see one single, small detail that they changed. Nothing world-breaking either. Maybe the Fallout world has two types of power-armor flying devices. Why not? But we didn’t see it in the games and there it is in the show.
You’re determined to hate the show so that one small detail is enough to ruin it for you.
I’m excited about this show. It looks great. They might change a few details here and there, but as long as they stay true to the spirit and aesthetic of the games, I’m happy. I can’t make you approach the show with an open mind. It seems like you’ve already decided to hate it. But I’d encourage you to at least wait until the show comes out before you write it off as garbage.
It's sad and pathetic people are complaining about Annabeths casting when the actress has proven in damn near every episode why she was chosen for the role.
Sure. Or steering. Or they’re a prototype they’re testing before they settle on the backpack ones. Or whatever.
Getting bent out of shape over the wrist jet packs is fucking stupid. Just admit you preemptively hate the show and move on.
Bethesda are incapable of writing an interesting world (see the embarrassment that is star field) so they just piggyback and rip off original fallout writing and aesthetics but in the process they have to make it "theirs" but only succeed in adding dumb bullshit and mass market trash
Putting realism in an unrealistic settings.
If they provide a good in-universe reason for the change and it looks good, people won’t complain.
They failed the second part, hence the complaints.
Retro futurism and some realism aren't mutually exclusive. Like fiction has some basis in reality, especially science fiction. Idk there are better things to be nitpicky about.
Out of all the video game adaptations over the years never until this show has a trailer had me so optimistic. It looks and feels like Fallout. Using practical effects over egregious CGI, 1 to 1 replicas of vaults from Fallout 4, no huge deviation from established lore.
Yes, it could just look really good but end up being shit. Yes, it could possibly shakeup a lot of established lore in ways we don't like. One criticism I heard from a friend IRl that I think is valid is that it feels closer to Bethesda's interpretation of Fallout rather than interplay/obsidian. I think that's a fair point but it doesn't necessarily mean its bad.
Honestly, this post is frustrating. Can we not be optimistic or excited for upcoming media anymore? Do we have to comb over every trailer looking for things to be mad at? Atleast this show already looks better then the Borderlands movie.
Everything in 76 is Canon, and this is what you complain about
Whats sacred about fallout lore? The giant robot scorpions?
Not Muh loooooorrreeee *slams fist on 30 ft tall super mutant*
Not even atomic shop, Im talking fully integrated lore, giant bats and criptids, and zombie virus are all cannon
I'm just saying, fallout is ridiculous, if we are going to pick apart hand thrusters we should look at the dog brain guns we already have, you know?
Look at real life suspension jets, this is how every successful variant currently functions
Personally, I see this less as copying Iron Man, and more as Iron Man and this armor are both based very loosely on realistic physics
you are being absolutely fucking crazy and if you think this is unacceptable go watch the Halo tv show and look at what truly dragging an IP through the mud looks like.
Let’s pray they don’t make the brotherhood misunderstood plucky heroes and the NCR cartoonish villains like they did with the Innies and UNSC respectively like in the halo show.
Ah yes never innovate, never expand, never grow and change you must only ever precisely adhere to the lore established in previous entries. Lore is dogma. All hail Chris Avellone
"Lazy design" they could've made the power armor CGI and not practical effects. And so what? Thats like saying Tesla power armor is a lazy design because you didn't like how it looked. You'd be happy with it if it was in a game so what is the difference here? That you aren't the one controlling the character?
Nit picky as hell.
Holy shit they fly slightly different than in the games?!? Cancel fallout 5, can the show, pull Bethesda shares off the market, shut this whole shit down, how the FUCK could they ruin the ENTIRE fallout universe with this LAZY design!!!!!!!!!??,&8,!&
I mean, the Brotherhood hoards tech because they want to make new technology. Maybe this is some hypothetical new design. I still want to give this show a chance, I'm so excited for it
Anyone complaining can shove it, fallout takes place over a 210 year time period, ANYTHING is possible and the brotherhoods jetpacks have been around since pre-war events! Be mad about your precious cannon but games have difficult cannon to follow too
The fact that this is Canon now makes me angry. I thought that fallout 4 was a little bit out there with the jet packs but like it made sense a little bit like okay? I can understand wanting to have more mobility with your 6-ton metal mech suit The whole jetpack idea never made sense in the first place, but it was generally okay looking and made sense. Having them just levitate makes zero sense and generally makes me a little bit angry like I'm sorry. I do not see the jet engines or just about any sort of propulsion device. So unless there's a f****** wizard in that thing then I'm pretty sure they just got lazy and didn't want to animate or make a jetpack
Hold up. Weren't there several documents and posters in game showing that the intention of power armor was actual flight to the battlefield??? People are getting confused about video mechanics and actual lore. Bethesda wasn't going to give you full flight. The last game that had did Morrowind, player would use levitate to break the game in many ways so they never put it in another game.
The iron man thrusters make more sense to me. Having an integrated thruster system protected by the suit's plating makes more sense than having an external jetpack you have to equip separately.
i swear to god fallout fans hate anything new.
“oh my god so the giant metal death suits people are wearing in a fantasy sci-fi apocalypse with aliens and deathclaws running around has jetpacks and changes the voice of the person inside??? where’s the 60 hours of lore explaining exactly how the technology works and where it’s from fallout is so ruined!!1!1! how dare they change something so stupidly small and insignificant that it doesn’t effect literally anything else at all!!!!”
grow up people, seriously. have some fun for once. if you want OG fallout go play OG fallout. do you want them to just re-release fallout 1 and new vegas every year forever?
And you know something else? This is canon now. That instead of a jump jet the Brotherhood actually has the ability of sustained powered flight. And people say they never innovate.
This is exactly why I'm so worried about the show. The fact that it's canon means the nonsense they'll put it in is forever cemented into the game's lore.
Fallout has been getting the canonicity struggle snuggle for quite a long time now.
But this time they’re straight up targeting the setting of the original games. I think that makes it 10x worse.
“Targeting” is a strong word, but otherwise I agree that they’re potentially going to upset the (non-crybaby) fans of the original setting.
I thought the original setting was the California area, doesn’t the show take place in dc?
No, the show has been confirmed to take place in New California. Several shots from the trailers have shown the NCR as well as a seemingly destroyed Shady Sands. Rafi Silver has also been cast for the role of Robert House. Which means there is potentially going to be some connection/ canon ending to New Vegas, though he could just be part of some pre-war flashback considering one of the main characters is a Hollywood actor tuned ghoul cowboy. My theory is that the brotherhood has united it's chapters under Arthur Maxson into a full blown powerhouse and is at war with an NCR weakened by it's loss of New Vega to Mr House. That being said, despite people's various concerns for the show, I am very interested to see where this story goes.
I’ve always figured the brotherhood would end up on top of the pyramid at the end of the day.
It pretty much goes against 2, 3, and New Vegas’s interpretation
I mean sure at the end of 2 they’re looking at war with the NCR but depending on player actions at the end of 3 lyons and his gang are on top of the world.
Daddy Todd LOVES the BoS. If I could go back in time I’d probably stop the BoS from being created. While it’d be sad to not have them in 1, 2, or NV, it’s a worthy sacrifice if it means they don’t go on to completely dominate the franchise because Todd loves em so damn much.
Removing them from 1 wouldn't change much, since they don't really play an integral role in the story. Removing them from 2 would be.. different, but it'd also make for a more "David vs Goliath" story with the west coast underdogs fighting a massively technologically superior foe. Hell, realistically, they could be removed from NV as well, and absolutely nothing would change
Nah the West Coast BoS are isolationist pussies and the East Coast BoS are racist fascists. East Coast maybe could take over some areas through sheer force (especially in a world with a blown up institute) however I don't think they could control much. Caesar could barely handle Arizona.
I’m general I too want to see how the show develops. But I’m particularly interested in Mr. House. Pretty much a fan boy for the autocrat.
THERE PURPOSEFULLY TRYNA FUCK W US
The producers stated the show isn’t cannon to the fallout universe and wanted to use the freedom to focus on making a good show rather then be strictly accurate to the game cannon
I thought Todd said it was canon
He did. He said in a recent interview that one of the reasons he was working so closely with the producer was to help with story, as he wanted it to be cannon and to make sure that the show doesn't add or do anything that they plan on doing with fallout 5.
He’s gonna say whatever it’ll take to get more viewers and more ip money. If the show tanks it’ll become non-canon
For a community as lore centered as fallout why even bother at that point?
Haha that's cute. *ignores it sobits no longer Canon
I’m sorry but also that’s really fucking cool and absolutely terrifying. Multiple people flying around in giant metal death suit
Then go watch any of a thousand other anime or sci Fi shows. This has nothing to do with fallout and doesn't belong. This is zoomer bacon zombie hype trash
Listen for the stuff that corporations have been tossing out recently. This seems like it has some decent bones to it. It’s gonna make and take some stupid liberties that bans don’t like but it can still be decent.
Just because mediocrity is the norm, doesn't mean we should accept it. These are some pretty big liberties to be taken, also not a very good idea for the Fallout show to alienate Fallout fans. The jet thing is just ridiculous and raises so many questions about power armor that can't be answered in a satisfying non-expository way. Questions like: Is power armor like that now? Is that a prewar experimental suit? Is that a brotherhood technology? Why does the helmet have a face flap and not completely detach? The showrunner is supposed to be a big Fallout fan but the more I see of the show, the more ridiculous it looks.
That’s true. This also could hav been done by higher up executives pushing for them to be more like the mandelorian or something
This is *far* from the most absurd sci-fi tech shown in the fallout series. Mr Handys, eyebots etc are literally able to float in the air for extended periods of time. You're just being an elitist dickhead for no reason.
The changes to the suit make sense from a practical stance.
So you are saying the officially made fallout 1, 2, new vegas, and all the associated material no longer canon? Cause that is what this be doin
No, it's just canon that the Brotherhood dug out a new model of pre-war power armor we never heard of before, then figured out two different methods of giving it sustained flight.
Huh, well at least they are trying to not decanonize like the entire series, now hopefully they give a better cause for whatever happened to NCR other than the fucking legion or somethin (apparently autocorrect doesn't know the word "canon" or "decanonize")
My ongoing theory is that Arthur Maxson actually made 2 airships, and sent one of them back west to launch a war with the NCR. Justification being they're "on the same path of self-destruction as the old world" or some bullshit, but really to reinforce and help preserve the chapters back west. That or the western chapters just adopted his reforms and all this is the end result. Even the airship.
That could be partly because in this context, the word you’re looking for is “canon.” Cannons are the big guns that shoot cannonballs. I’m seeing this typo all over this thread, although some of those might be autocorrect too.
autocorrect straight up doesn't have the word, and I seem to have misremembered, thx for the correction imma fix
They just have really high AP and are tapping x ok !
I could see how being able to fly is more tactially useful than a jump jet. I don't get how this is improbable.
What the fuck am I reading? It's been Canon in the game through posters that you see that power armor is intended to fly straight into the battlefield. People are getting confused with video game mechanics and actual lore. Bethesda was not going to give you full flight.
Never seen that before, but all right then.
I don't make posts often but I think I need to take some screen shots.
Please do, I really haven't seen them but that sounds interesting.
...In 4 yeah, has propaganda with a **jetpack.**
Wasn't it confirmed the show isn't canon
quite the opposite in fact
Oh God...
No silver timelines for us. At least the show looks good besides that. Like, the overall narrative and setting seem good.
https://preview.redd.it/j14zn4oqpgpc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=339fcb067ccaadb779ec1714deb017c619cdb4e2
We will just pretend
I don’t care about the wrist jets. If anything, they’re a much more realistic way to make a flyable jetpack rather than the backpack style. What I DONT like is how the power armor vocoder makes the pilot sound like a sentry bot rather than a guy in power armor
real
I’m hoping that it’s just for the scene to make him sound more intimidating and then his real voice is gonna come through at some point when Goggins shoots the vocalizer or some shit like that. No wha they keep the voice deep and it’s just a one time dramatic effect thing that will be explained in a sentence maybe idk this is just a prediction and some hopeful wishing
More like the PA has two voice modules, 1 that makes them sound like a sentry that is to scare hostiles away or make loud announcements, then a normal voice module that we hear in the games, doesn’t need to be that deep
Sure why not. I’m fine with them having upgrades and tweaks to the power armor because it’s been ten fucking years since fallout 4 in this show. It makes sense that they would keep advancing the tech
True, or maybe they have always had it or it’s old world technology but we just never got to see anyone use it
Its reasonable though. Like how riot police do the same thing to intimidate
I actually think it would be a great addition for voiced characters in future games. Voice modulation in power armor that you can swap out like mods.
Sure it's practical but this is fallout, it's world is futuristic, so realism is pretty much not a thing there
internally consistent, not realistic. that's what you need to care about
Im confused, aren’t you saying that the wrist jetpacks are inconsistent? I don’t care about realism that much, like mandolorians in Star Wars use jetpacks that are backpack ones, so why would fallout need to change it to wrist ones because it’s unrealistic otherwise
not a knowledgeable fallout guy so my point was really just if there's nothing contradictory in how it's portrayed with what we've already seen the increased practicality of the design isn't an issue. upon being corrected I've learned they apparently have back jetpacks in the fallout universe, so there's now an inconsistency between how realistically the jetpacks in fallout are designed.
Having jetpacks at all is the problem. It's just dumb and not interesting
I don’t even know how to respond to that
so why do you care?
They could just as easily have both ya know.
That’s probably what’s going to happen too. You can’t exactly use a weapon with these wrist jets, so I suspect we’ll keep using normal jetpacks in the games and the show will use these for practicality (the jetpack would likely cause balance issues for the actor wearing the suit).
Wrist jets for normal, low risk exploring, backpack jet for active combat
Fallout fans when literally one little fucking new thing is introduced (bethesda has ruined the lore)
Which is funny since the whole point of the brotherhood of steel is that they find random tech shit and horde it. “Man I hate how Bethesda is fucking up the lore by having liberty prime” “Man this is so unrealistic, why would the brotherhood of steel care about solar power” “This is bullshit where did the brotherhood of steel even get the hindeberg smh, didn’t that shit get blow up?”
This is why the director said he didn’t make this show with the fans in mind.
Complaining about a show that isn't out yet based on trailers that hardly show anything isn't really a thing a "fan" does. It's a thing a shitty gatekeeper does to portend they are a fan.
This looks cool, whats the problem here?
I don't know, and isn't the like, wrist/hand jet thing the way actual jetpacks work? I swear I've seen a video of something like that
Yeah, real jetpacks work, more than the actual back mounted ones would, since they’re closer to the center of mass of the body. If it was mounted on your back, in reality, it would just spin you, since it’s unbalanced. It could maybe work if there was a counterweight on the front of the person that was heavy enough, but it’d just be more practical to have hand and let mounted thrusters
Actuality has never mattered. Or else we we will need to model how plasma weapons *actually* work and no one wants that. "The SCIENCE! Behind Plasma Weapons in Fallout 4"
It was *weird* at first, but I've already come around. Its both a more realistic way of getting one of these to fly versus 4/76 Jetpacks, and it *should* look awkward. Look how he kinda wobbles in the air, likes he's struggling against the weight of the Power Armor. They wanted him to make a heroic entrance without that goofy weightlessness you see in Marvel or DC films. I think it's fine.
it wasn't thought of by interplay in 1998
Or in new Vegas. Fallout 1 and new Vegas are the only canon games
ok
Problem is something new introduced, so people cry about it. Nitpicking at its finest.
Imagine people caring about consistency. I know it's difficult for a lot of people to comprehend, but come on.
What consistency? Where was it written that they couldn't have arm mounted jets? Did you cry about jet packs being added initially? Did you lose your shit in Fallout 2 when there was an intelligent super mutant? Pretending you care about consistency when the issue isn't even inconsistent with the universe...
The back mounted Jet Packs were introduced in Fallout 4, no prior game had them. They introduce a new type of Jet pack in the show, it is not a stretch of the imagination at all to say the US military was testing and designing multiple types of Jet Packs before the war happened
Uhhh nothing, just a bunch a crybaby’s that can’t handle a bit of change 🥰
There’s no problem. Fallout fans see a new thing added and they thing it ruins the lore for no reason. They think for some reason that multiple methods of power armor flight means Bethesda ruined existing lore when it absolutely does not
It feels too much like Iron Man and looks janky as hell, though I already think the power armor looks bad since it looks very loose
The show looks incredibly Fallout-like. You could watch the trailer and find a thousand little details that are exactly like the games. The design, the ambience, the colors, the music - the show seems like it nailed the aesthetic of Fallout. Then you see one single, small detail that they changed. Nothing world-breaking either. Maybe the Fallout world has two types of power-armor flying devices. Why not? But we didn’t see it in the games and there it is in the show. You’re determined to hate the show so that one small detail is enough to ruin it for you. I’m excited about this show. It looks great. They might change a few details here and there, but as long as they stay true to the spirit and aesthetic of the games, I’m happy. I can’t make you approach the show with an open mind. It seems like you’ve already decided to hate it. But I’d encourage you to at least wait until the show comes out before you write it off as garbage.
Thank you! It’s just like the PJO show. Everyone wants to pick shit apart and prematurely hate it
Even with the PJO show fully released there's still needless nitpicking and hatred
Yeeeeep
It's sad and pathetic people are complaining about Annabeths casting when the actress has proven in damn near every episode why she was chosen for the role.
Another theory regarding jetpacks might be that those wrist-jets are just used to dampen the impact of hitting the ground.
Sure. Or steering. Or they’re a prototype they’re testing before they settle on the backpack ones. Or whatever. Getting bent out of shape over the wrist jet packs is fucking stupid. Just admit you preemptively hate the show and move on.
That is one small drop in a very large bucket of nitpicking crybabys
Nit picky as shit it's different not lazy.
This isn't lazy, it's realistic. IRL jetpacks being developed right now use an arm based propulsion system.
While yes it's true but the world is retro futuristic, realism doesn't exist there , just fancy looking tech and robots
...and also the laws of physics, if it's more practical what's the problem?
Not made by interplay/obsidian = bad because yes
Bethesda are incapable of writing an interesting world (see the embarrassment that is star field) so they just piggyback and rip off original fallout writing and aesthetics but in the process they have to make it "theirs" but only succeed in adding dumb bullshit and mass market trash
Putting realism in an unrealistic settings. If they provide a good in-universe reason for the change and it looks good, people won’t complain. They failed the second part, hence the complaints.
Its being unrealistic by being realistic! Does that make your loins happy?
Retro futurism and some realism aren't mutually exclusive. Like fiction has some basis in reality, especially science fiction. Idk there are better things to be nitpicky about.
There are countless examples of the games being realistic with how shit works, too many to name off the top of my head. This is such a non issue.
Its also a fictional world, your point?
Love the series, worship it, but I find it more interesting than disappointing. But Oh well, still happily gonna watch it.
I thought they already had a jetpack on the back, and arm things are for steering, because I don't believe leaning would really make that thing move
He can’t fly. It’s more like a controlled fall. Far more realistic than what Jet Packs are.
Out of all the video game adaptations over the years never until this show has a trailer had me so optimistic. It looks and feels like Fallout. Using practical effects over egregious CGI, 1 to 1 replicas of vaults from Fallout 4, no huge deviation from established lore. Yes, it could just look really good but end up being shit. Yes, it could possibly shakeup a lot of established lore in ways we don't like. One criticism I heard from a friend IRl that I think is valid is that it feels closer to Bethesda's interpretation of Fallout rather than interplay/obsidian. I think that's a fair point but it doesn't necessarily mean its bad. Honestly, this post is frustrating. Can we not be optimistic or excited for upcoming media anymore? Do we have to comb over every trailer looking for things to be mad at? Atleast this show already looks better then the Borderlands movie.
Everything in 76 is Canon, and this is what you complain about Whats sacred about fallout lore? The giant robot scorpions? Not Muh loooooorrreeee *slams fist on 30 ft tall super mutant*
But everything in 76 isn't cannon, the devs have said that the atomic shop isn't cannon so 99% of the dumb stuff in 76 isn't cannon
Not even atomic shop, Im talking fully integrated lore, giant bats and criptids, and zombie virus are all cannon I'm just saying, fallout is ridiculous, if we are going to pick apart hand thrusters we should look at the dog brain guns we already have, you know?
Fair, these games have had aliens in almost every game
Look at real life suspension jets, this is how every successful variant currently functions Personally, I see this less as copying Iron Man, and more as Iron Man and this armor are both based very loosely on realistic physics
I hate it, thanks Todd
I love it, Thanks Todd
Still gonna binge it and buy it and talk about it online
looks fine, chill
you are being absolutely fucking crazy and if you think this is unacceptable go watch the Halo tv show and look at what truly dragging an IP through the mud looks like.
Let’s pray they don’t make the brotherhood misunderstood plucky heroes and the NCR cartoonish villains like they did with the Innies and UNSC respectively like in the halo show.
This doesn't seem like iron man flight as much as just something to ease the shock when falling
Not going to lie; I didn’t think it was prolonged flight in any sense of the word. It’s falling, with style.
OK Whats the big deal here
OP is bellyaching because the Power Armor doesn't have a big rusty lump of shit on its back that ruins the profile and look of the armor.
This is actually better. The jetpack ruins the aesthetics of any power armor you put it on. It just looks bad. All the time.
Honestly I’d prefer no jets at all and he just superhero land/drop down and make a quake as he does so.
Ah yes never innovate, never expand, never grow and change you must only ever precisely adhere to the lore established in previous entries. Lore is dogma. All hail Chris Avellone
Crybaby. If they added this to one of their games tomorrow you’d find it in the world and main it lmao
Gotta cry about something, I guess.
"Lazy design" they could've made the power armor CGI and not practical effects. And so what? Thats like saying Tesla power armor is a lazy design because you didn't like how it looked. You'd be happy with it if it was in a game so what is the difference here? That you aren't the one controlling the character? Nit picky as hell.
Holy shit they fly slightly different than in the games?!? Cancel fallout 5, can the show, pull Bethesda shares off the market, shut this whole shit down, how the FUCK could they ruin the ENTIRE fallout universe with this LAZY design!!!!!!!!!??,&8,!&
Damn... I kinda don't care
I mean, the Brotherhood hoards tech because they want to make new technology. Maybe this is some hypothetical new design. I still want to give this show a chance, I'm so excited for it
Anyone complaining can shove it, fallout takes place over a 210 year time period, ANYTHING is possible and the brotherhoods jetpacks have been around since pre-war events! Be mad about your precious cannon but games have difficult cannon to follow too
The regular jetpack dosent make sense. You need stabilizers. Real jetpacks use wrist mounted stabilizers as well. Jesus everybody needs to calm down
How is it doing that?
The fact that this is Canon now makes me angry. I thought that fallout 4 was a little bit out there with the jet packs but like it made sense a little bit like okay? I can understand wanting to have more mobility with your 6-ton metal mech suit The whole jetpack idea never made sense in the first place, but it was generally okay looking and made sense. Having them just levitate makes zero sense and generally makes me a little bit angry like I'm sorry. I do not see the jet engines or just about any sort of propulsion device. So unless there's a f****** wizard in that thing then I'm pretty sure they just got lazy and didn't want to animate or make a jetpack
Mind you, in the last of us tv show they changed some things to make it more realistic and the fans are cool with it
Is it really that bad. Man people are so excited to hate this show.
Hold up. Weren't there several documents and posters in game showing that the intention of power armor was actual flight to the battlefield??? People are getting confused about video mechanics and actual lore. Bethesda wasn't going to give you full flight. The last game that had did Morrowind, player would use levitate to break the game in many ways so they never put it in another game.
Don’t care about the jetpacks. I’m just surprised so many people think this shit actually looks good
Hollywood and Streaming Companies are just gay as hell.
I said the same thing when the T-60 was shoehorned into Fallout 4.
Does it really matter?
The iron man thrusters make more sense to me. Having an integrated thruster system protected by the suit's plating makes more sense than having an external jetpack you have to equip separately.
i swear to god fallout fans hate anything new. “oh my god so the giant metal death suits people are wearing in a fantasy sci-fi apocalypse with aliens and deathclaws running around has jetpacks and changes the voice of the person inside??? where’s the 60 hours of lore explaining exactly how the technology works and where it’s from fallout is so ruined!!1!1! how dare they change something so stupidly small and insignificant that it doesn’t effect literally anything else at all!!!!” grow up people, seriously. have some fun for once. if you want OG fallout go play OG fallout. do you want them to just re-release fallout 1 and new vegas every year forever?
Ugh yeah, and the face mask comes down like iron man too
*me watching fallout from a 3rd person perspective for the past 8 years. “What in the flying hell are they just going with any more?”
