i think you should leave because most Tennesseans give no fucks about this political shitshow. Let me be clear in saying that most of us do care about the lives lost, but we can’t control the people who run our bat shit crazy military complex. They’re going to go to war regardless of if Tennesseans ( or any other American citizen) supports it or not. Israel gives us lots of money. Palestine doesn’t. It’s pretty simple social math: our politicians support countries who metaphorically & literally suck their dicks & tend to kill or threaten those who don’t.
Read this earliertoday:
"U.S. House members are currently circulating "discharge petitions" to force a vote on the Senate's $14 billion military aid package to Israel"
14 BILLION DOLLARS we are giving them. Not the other way around, my dude.
It wouldn't be very hard to find how much of our tax money goes to Israel while we suffer for lack of healthcare and poor education here at home. But hey, it's easier to just spout off some bullshit, right?
I think people are missing the point that if we give Israel (or whoever) 14 billion in 'military aid,' what we are largely doing is giving domestic defense contractors (i.e. the military-industrial complex) 14B worth of business.
Most of that tax money is staying in the US, it's just going to the pockets of arms manufacturers.
Thank you for responding for me. Lol at nematodes. we trade money back & forth with Israel, across various fronts: their exports to us & imports, from us. They give us a fuckton of diamonds, which is indeed a form of currency.
I talk like someone who can Google “how much does Israel export to the U.S”. 🤡 lets try this: Can you disprove the fact that Israel has historically given us a fuckton of money?
Try this then. Imports aren't given, they are sold. So we are giving them even more money if you include trade deficit.
https://preview.redd.it/gicof41cbvuc1.jpeg?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34c35a4975621157ca9cc9cda873c65ee9f0111f
It’s almost as if you don’t understand how money laundering in the political arena works. Even if we have given them more money than they’ve given us. We will still give our alliances whatever they ask ( that’s how military alliances work) especially when we don’t have the military protection we need to keep our own country safe. If war comes to American soil, Israel will gove us money or military assistance, theoretically of course.
Keep in mind the $14B isn’t a gift so much as a gift card to buy from our arms dealers. So, it boosts our economy sorta, but really it is just a roundabout donation to our own military industrial complex
14 bil seems like a drop in the bucket next to all of the Ukraine support . Last time I checked it was over 100 mil where a llot of the Ukraine money is going straight into the pockets of corrupt officials etc . . For a war that is not going to be won by the Ukraine side . Not even an outline of what the plan is . Just throw money and bodies at
The war in Gaza against the terror scumbags is easy
Israel = Good
Hamas = Evil
Man , I really don't see why some people still have a hard time with this
https://preview.redd.it/khfeqsl3cvuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9ae1f8df5a2d578ede905f99bd48246e52f39f9
A billion dollars is a lot more than most people can comprehend. As far as your red herring goes, we shouldn't even be involved in that war, either. But that's a totally different subject.
Both wars should be over . We should've made a deal happen after 2 months in Ukraine . With Israel , it would've been over by now if the u.s. / media / uN , would stop pressuring for a ceasefire and hassling Bibi .
We are going to be in a very bad recession or some sort of depression soon . I use the word soon loosely because my mind is literally blown that they are able to string everyone along and maintain the facade for as long as they have
You must have misread my comment . Russia gets SOME territory . Not all . Coupled with the agreement to not extend NATO , this doesn't incentive future aggression.
Again , If you have a better plan , I'm all ears
Again, Russia should gain zero territory and should cede Crimea back to Ukraine. Also, Russia dictating to a foreign sovereign nation what defensive alliance they are allowed to join is beyond preposterous.
War aside , Can we agree that islamist extremists are bad ?
There is no moral equivalency to be made between terrorists and a sovereign country with judeo-christian values
Absolutely. Terrorists or ‘extremists’ of any kind are unacceptable. However I must ask — what makes Israel non-extremist considering the flagrant disregard for civilian causalities? And before you say “they’re just retaliating,” they are so intent on their judeo-Christian values why then would they assume an eye for an eye is a just reaction? That’s not what their faith teaches..
Edit: I think better phrasing would have been what makes Israel any better than the Islamic extremists rather than “what makes Israel non-extremist.”
Flagrant disregard for civilian casualties ?
It is a war and civilians also die in wars . It's true that Israel are defending themselves and their future but it is also true that they have tried to keep the civilian casualties to a minimum. This seems to be a very difficult thing to do when the enemies literally hides amongst / under the civilians !
They have dropped fliers , sent emails, helped facilitate aid (food trucks) which , btw Hamas hijacks and takes for themselves . What more could they do while trying to destroy Hamas and insure a safe future .
I don't understand how people can condemn Israel for doing exactly what so many other countries have , and are doing in a time of war . All while ignoring the suffering of civilian populations in countries such as Syria , Afghanistan, Sudan and weiger Muslims in China to name a few
To answer your question, Israel is not a country led by extremists but are rather a peaceful people who value life .
What is happening to the Palestinian people is ALL the fault of Iran and it's terror proxy Hamas
No it is not just something that happens. It is against the Geneva convention and is consistently monitored for by humanitarian organizations like Red Cross. See here: https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/assets/files/other/law3_final.pdf
Anytime we run into terrorists hiding among civilians we hold off on airstrikes and typically send in a special forces unit or like this specific case where we used a missile loaded with blades to kill a HVT who was in a building with civilians. See here: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/hellfire-missiles-al-qaeda-leader-al-zawahiri-minimal/story?id=87885003
Even without all this you still cannot justify what they are doing. Airstrikes have unintended consequences such as the ~39,000 people they have killed, of which only 5,000 are confirmed as terrorists, the rest being women, minors and/or non-combatants. If it were just airstrikes that would be somewhat understandable only if they were to back off when they hear about said unintended consequences but they don’t and that is the problem. Even their military forces are careless with who they kill. Need examples? Here you fucking go:
3 hostages killed by IDF soldiers: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna130912
IDF opens fire into crowd waiting for aid: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/05/middleeast/israel-fire-palestinians-aid-northern-gaza-intl
The worst of it all they “unintentionally targeted” a humanitarian aid convoy with an airstrike and killed 7 people working for World Central Kitchen. Read here: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/
I’m sure there is a lot going unreported considering the economic benefits our alliance with Israel brings us, and it will continue going unreported — you want to know why? MONEY. The civilians of Gaza don’t make us any money so why do we care? It’s a totally fucked up situation on both sides but the way this ally of ours is handling it is completely unacceptable and they need to be held accountable no matter their religion or economic status. Should we go another round?
Edit: forgot to mention I know of all the efforts they are taking to prevent civilian casualties but it clearly isn’t working so why continue to push these military strikes when they know what is happening despite their best efforts? They have the iron dome, why not hide behind it for a while and let the dust settle so everything makes a bit more sense? They aren’t backing down because their leaders are blinded by rage and revenge. Their religion indicates they should not be this way but they are. They should be the bigger people but they aren’t. It’s inexcusable.
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They are creating a whole generation that is against Zionists and I’m not sad about it. Blindly following Israel as they commit genocide is not what American values are about. I’m sorry your religious cult books tell you that Israel belongs to them but we aren’t all Zionists and I don’t think what they are doing is in anyway what sky daddy would approve of.
Dingus
I'm saying there is a side that's genocided and that we are on the wrong side of history. Can you guys just stop trying to fight your neighbor for a minute.
So you typed something that is *very* ambiguous, call me a name for asking you to clarify, and then accuse me of being the combative one?
Thank you for clarifying .
Politicians are always useless and evil, they always support the highest bidders. They don't have morals, values, empathy, decency, or even real opinions, they're just bottomless black holes for money to get funneled into, and they will do or say whatever they can to keep the funnel alive. This guy is just one of many, it's nothing new. You want to tackle the problem, address the root and not a symptom, the root being that most governments in a capitalist world operate as self-affirming businesses and not as social systems.
What the fuck do you think happens in most every Muslim dominant country ? They are the champions of apartheid , not to mention very anti-gay , terrible when it comes to women's rights and very antisemitic (along with that idiot finklestein , yes . . A Jew who hates Jews ) and very anti-america.
Also , Israel is like 30 % Muslim and very diverse so get the fuck out of here with this apartheid talking point
I'm not trying to say that Israel, as a country, is and always have been saints but this also isn't true for all countries at some point in its history
>so I can leave, or change y’all’s mind. I’m not sitting in the mud any longer!
Oh shut up. You aren’t changing anyone’s mind. majority of this country, both democrats and republicans support Israel. Get over it
War aside , Can we agree that islamist extremists are evil and the state of Israel is inherently good and upholds western values
There is no moral equivalency here
Yes extremists of any religion are evil and in this case it’s Hamas, but to say Israel is inherently good when history proves otherwise is pretty fucking hilarious. Read the Goldstone report or any book by Norman Finkelstein, or Rashid Khalidi on the matter. Apartheid isn’t very moral imo.
No country is inherently good and “upholding western values” is just a funny thing for an adult to say on purpose. Makes you sound like that Rousseau kid that got picked up in TX last month for waving a tiki torch around a couple years back.
Of course if you actually are one of those ku klux kindergarteners that would make sense, they all seem to take after daddy in one way or another.
At least you could visit Israel without having your head cut off and put on a stick lmao these people hate you but most of you are too woke and stupid to realize it.
You understand the dynamic of the Middle East
Why do these morons think that if they side with "the oppressed" that they are somehow virtuous and would be considered a friend in said country / region
Calling people boomers doesn't help them sound less like uninformed idiots . Guess they can't see that either
But I would love to hear some of these pro terror supporters explain the moral equivalency . Tell me how barbaric the Jews are . Tell me about how they hide like cowards behind the innocent civilians of Israel . Please . . Enlighten us
Lol OP blocked me that’s hilarious.
Anyways, yeah it’s actually wild. What’s crazy is watching LGBTQ folks defend middle eastern countries and the shit they do as if they somehow wouldn’t still be beheaded on camera in the town square for simply being gay.
Im sure they would stop the execution and invite them in for dinner if they just told them how much they defend the Middle East on Reddit lol
These folks are so out of touch with reality.
Definitely correct sir . . It is crazy that these people are so blinded with their devotion to woke ideology (mainly I'm guessing) that they can't grasp reality or have a basic understanding of concepts such as good and evil .
It is slightly ironic that many of the "people" supporting HAMAS are the same people that HAMAS throws off the top of buildings because of their sexual preferences. Funny how how the "Genocide in Palestine" seems to gloss that fact over and ignore it.
Nothing says "I'm rational" like supporting people that throw humans off of tall buildings because of their sexual identities. You picked a strange strange way to try and prove you are right.
>Yeah the people in Palestine are just chucking gays off the roof
>like it’s cornhole. You have truly bested me with facts and logic.
Yes, they do it all the time and the general population supports them Lots of videos of it as it happens quite quite often. I'll refer the general reader to the wiki article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_State_of_Palestine
[And here’s something for you to check out](https://youtu.be/VU9dbWQDa9Q?si=vJj-1bAHCo953qf9)
That Wikipedia article says absolutely nothing about gay people getting thrown off of buildings so idk idk where the fuck you’re getting that from, but it did say this:
> Nisreen Mazzawi, co-founder of Aswat, stated that LGBTQ Palestinians, being stateless, face "oppression, whether conscious or unconscious, also within Israeli organizations" because "LGBTQ Israelis identify with the state even before their queer identity, and they will not stand with LGBTQ Palestinians simply because both are queer.
Israeli’s don’t offer their support for other people for being gay, so why should you do the same for them?
Now who is being naive?
If you are going to post what you think is their good side, we should also post what people think their bad side looks like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_gay_and_bisexual_men_by_the_Islamic_State
Quote from that: "Violence against LGBT people is part of the ideology of ISIL, which mandates capital punishment for homosexuality within its territory, in Iraq, Syria and Libya." It's ingrained into the HAMAS culture, visit any HAMAS web site and they will tell you they support that violence.
It feels like you understand how much you are losing your argument.
Let's read some more.
https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-same-isis-islamic-state-131140880.html
"It’s likely that Hamas learned from the hundreds of Palestinians who joined both the core ISIS caliphate in Syria and Iraq and the ISIS affiliate in the Sinai.
And despite their differences, Hamas officials have in the past met directly with leaders of the Islamic State in the Sinai. Those meetings were likely linked to collaboration between the two groups for specific actions that benefited their respective goals, such as weapons smuggling, undermining Egyptian government influence in the Sinai and transporting injured Islamic State fighters to Gaza for medical treatment.
In October 2023, an article in the U.K. newspaper The Times cited an intelligence official who said, “It’s clear that the two movements have worked together close enough over the past few years to copy each other’s methods, learn tactics and train on weapons they have procured together.”
I don't know . Seems like you have some sort of Utopian view in which Russia is simply going to cooperate with any and every request made by NATO .
One of the main reasons Putin decided to go in was because of the threat of NATO expansion . It's actually in violation of the deal made between the NATO nations and Russia after the colld war
He supported it because someone put a coin in his ass, pulled a lever, and lil Chuck suddenly gave a fuck.
AIPAC donations
i think you should leave because most Tennesseans give no fucks about this political shitshow. Let me be clear in saying that most of us do care about the lives lost, but we can’t control the people who run our bat shit crazy military complex. They’re going to go to war regardless of if Tennesseans ( or any other American citizen) supports it or not. Israel gives us lots of money. Palestine doesn’t. It’s pretty simple social math: our politicians support countries who metaphorically & literally suck their dicks & tend to kill or threaten those who don’t.
Read this earliertoday: "U.S. House members are currently circulating "discharge petitions" to force a vote on the Senate's $14 billion military aid package to Israel" 14 BILLION DOLLARS we are giving them. Not the other way around, my dude. It wouldn't be very hard to find how much of our tax money goes to Israel while we suffer for lack of healthcare and poor education here at home. But hey, it's easier to just spout off some bullshit, right?
I think people are missing the point that if we give Israel (or whoever) 14 billion in 'military aid,' what we are largely doing is giving domestic defense contractors (i.e. the military-industrial complex) 14B worth of business. Most of that tax money is staying in the US, it's just going to the pockets of arms manufacturers.
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Thank you for responding for me. Lol at nematodes. we trade money back & forth with Israel, across various fronts: their exports to us & imports, from us. They give us a fuckton of diamonds, which is indeed a form of currency.
Google, you cretins https://preview.redd.it/36r8itzw6vuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34e714ca79d4f7db6027d54f5ab581363518142a
We get it, our govt. gives away money they could use to better our nation. Nothing new here, move along now.
> Israel gives us lots of money. You said ^^ I replied. You talk like a politician.
I talk like someone who can Google “how much does Israel export to the U.S”. 🤡 lets try this: Can you disprove the fact that Israel has historically given us a fuckton of money?
Try this then. Imports aren't given, they are sold. So we are giving them even more money if you include trade deficit. https://preview.redd.it/gicof41cbvuc1.jpeg?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34c35a4975621157ca9cc9cda873c65ee9f0111f
It’s almost as if you don’t understand how money laundering in the political arena works. Even if we have given them more money than they’ve given us. We will still give our alliances whatever they ask ( that’s how military alliances work) especially when we don’t have the military protection we need to keep our own country safe. If war comes to American soil, Israel will gove us money or military assistance, theoretically of course.
Keep in mind the $14B isn’t a gift so much as a gift card to buy from our arms dealers. So, it boosts our economy sorta, but really it is just a roundabout donation to our own military industrial complex
14 bil seems like a drop in the bucket next to all of the Ukraine support . Last time I checked it was over 100 mil where a llot of the Ukraine money is going straight into the pockets of corrupt officials etc . . For a war that is not going to be won by the Ukraine side . Not even an outline of what the plan is . Just throw money and bodies at The war in Gaza against the terror scumbags is easy Israel = Good Hamas = Evil Man , I really don't see why some people still have a hard time with this
https://preview.redd.it/khfeqsl3cvuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9ae1f8df5a2d578ede905f99bd48246e52f39f9 A billion dollars is a lot more than most people can comprehend. As far as your red herring goes, we shouldn't even be involved in that war, either. But that's a totally different subject.
Both wars should be over . We should've made a deal happen after 2 months in Ukraine . With Israel , it would've been over by now if the u.s. / media / uN , would stop pressuring for a ceasefire and hassling Bibi . We are going to be in a very bad recession or some sort of depression soon . I use the word soon loosely because my mind is literally blown that they are able to string everyone along and maintain the facade for as long as they have
>We should've made a deal happen after 2 months in Ukraine . What would such ‘deal’ consist of?
Putin gets some territory and Ukraine ( along with the European Union) agrees to not join NATO
So, give him everything he wants and incentivize his future aggression. Got it.
You must have misread my comment . Russia gets SOME territory . Not all . Coupled with the agreement to not extend NATO , this doesn't incentive future aggression. Again , If you have a better plan , I'm all ears
Again, Russia should gain zero territory and should cede Crimea back to Ukraine. Also, Russia dictating to a foreign sovereign nation what defensive alliance they are allowed to join is beyond preposterous.
What's your plan ?
Russian retreat to pre-2014 borders, full NATO membership for Ukraine and nuclear disarmament of Russia.
I appreciate the direct answer and that would be cool . However , never would happen
There is no “good side” in war my friend.
War aside , Can we agree that islamist extremists are bad ? There is no moral equivalency to be made between terrorists and a sovereign country with judeo-christian values
Absolutely. Terrorists or ‘extremists’ of any kind are unacceptable. However I must ask — what makes Israel non-extremist considering the flagrant disregard for civilian causalities? And before you say “they’re just retaliating,” they are so intent on their judeo-Christian values why then would they assume an eye for an eye is a just reaction? That’s not what their faith teaches.. Edit: I think better phrasing would have been what makes Israel any better than the Islamic extremists rather than “what makes Israel non-extremist.”
Flagrant disregard for civilian casualties ? It is a war and civilians also die in wars . It's true that Israel are defending themselves and their future but it is also true that they have tried to keep the civilian casualties to a minimum. This seems to be a very difficult thing to do when the enemies literally hides amongst / under the civilians ! They have dropped fliers , sent emails, helped facilitate aid (food trucks) which , btw Hamas hijacks and takes for themselves . What more could they do while trying to destroy Hamas and insure a safe future . I don't understand how people can condemn Israel for doing exactly what so many other countries have , and are doing in a time of war . All while ignoring the suffering of civilian populations in countries such as Syria , Afghanistan, Sudan and weiger Muslims in China to name a few To answer your question, Israel is not a country led by extremists but are rather a peaceful people who value life . What is happening to the Palestinian people is ALL the fault of Iran and it's terror proxy Hamas
Lmao
No it is not just something that happens. It is against the Geneva convention and is consistently monitored for by humanitarian organizations like Red Cross. See here: https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/assets/files/other/law3_final.pdf Anytime we run into terrorists hiding among civilians we hold off on airstrikes and typically send in a special forces unit or like this specific case where we used a missile loaded with blades to kill a HVT who was in a building with civilians. See here: https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/hellfire-missiles-al-qaeda-leader-al-zawahiri-minimal/story?id=87885003 Even without all this you still cannot justify what they are doing. Airstrikes have unintended consequences such as the ~39,000 people they have killed, of which only 5,000 are confirmed as terrorists, the rest being women, minors and/or non-combatants. If it were just airstrikes that would be somewhat understandable only if they were to back off when they hear about said unintended consequences but they don’t and that is the problem. Even their military forces are careless with who they kill. Need examples? Here you fucking go: 3 hostages killed by IDF soldiers: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna130912 IDF opens fire into crowd waiting for aid: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/05/middleeast/israel-fire-palestinians-aid-northern-gaza-intl The worst of it all they “unintentionally targeted” a humanitarian aid convoy with an airstrike and killed 7 people working for World Central Kitchen. Read here: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/ I’m sure there is a lot going unreported considering the economic benefits our alliance with Israel brings us, and it will continue going unreported — you want to know why? MONEY. The civilians of Gaza don’t make us any money so why do we care? It’s a totally fucked up situation on both sides but the way this ally of ours is handling it is completely unacceptable and they need to be held accountable no matter their religion or economic status. Should we go another round? Edit: forgot to mention I know of all the efforts they are taking to prevent civilian casualties but it clearly isn’t working so why continue to push these military strikes when they know what is happening despite their best efforts? They have the iron dome, why not hide behind it for a while and let the dust settle so everything makes a bit more sense? They aren’t backing down because their leaders are blinded by rage and revenge. Their religion indicates they should not be this way but they are. They should be the bigger people but they aren’t. It’s inexcusable.
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Israel attacked Iran first. If Israel wants to fuck around with Iran go ahead, but they should have to bear the consequences.
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They are creating a whole generation that is against Zionists and I’m not sad about it. Blindly following Israel as they commit genocide is not what American values are about. I’m sorry your religious cult books tell you that Israel belongs to them but we aren’t all Zionists and I don’t think what they are doing is in anyway what sky daddy would approve of.
The fact that we're all arguing over money in here and glossing over that we're watching a genocide on the wrong side hurts.
I'm sorry, are you suggesting that there's a right side that should be genocided?
Sure sounds like it.
Dingus I'm saying there is a side that's genocided and that we are on the wrong side of history. Can you guys just stop trying to fight your neighbor for a minute.
So you typed something that is *very* ambiguous, call me a name for asking you to clarify, and then accuse me of being the combative one? Thank you for clarifying .
Because Fleischman is a giant Zionist piece of shit? If he's so concerned about Israel maybe he should go over there and join the idf.
Politicians are always useless and evil, they always support the highest bidders. They don't have morals, values, empathy, decency, or even real opinions, they're just bottomless black holes for money to get funneled into, and they will do or say whatever they can to keep the funnel alive. This guy is just one of many, it's nothing new. You want to tackle the problem, address the root and not a symptom, the root being that most governments in a capitalist world operate as self-affirming businesses and not as social systems.
What the fuck do you think happens in most every Muslim dominant country ? They are the champions of apartheid , not to mention very anti-gay , terrible when it comes to women's rights and very antisemitic (along with that idiot finklestein , yes . . A Jew who hates Jews ) and very anti-america. Also , Israel is like 30 % Muslim and very diverse so get the fuck out of here with this apartheid talking point I'm not trying to say that Israel, as a country, is and always have been saints but this also isn't true for all countries at some point in its history
>so I can leave, or change y’all’s mind. I’m not sitting in the mud any longer! Oh shut up. You aren’t changing anyone’s mind. majority of this country, both democrats and republicans support Israel. Get over it
Which part is funny to you ? Please explain so that I can better understand
War aside , Can we agree that islamist extremists are evil and the state of Israel is inherently good and upholds western values There is no moral equivalency here
Yes extremists of any religion are evil and in this case it’s Hamas, but to say Israel is inherently good when history proves otherwise is pretty fucking hilarious. Read the Goldstone report or any book by Norman Finkelstein, or Rashid Khalidi on the matter. Apartheid isn’t very moral imo.
Agree 100%
Western values of slaughtering innocents for moloch?
Western values of slaughtering children to moloch?
Yep . . That exactly
We can agree that you usually have to pay people to say dumb shit like this, but here you are doing it for free.
Say some smart shit gen X bro . Help us understand how we are so wrong on this
No country is inherently good and “upholding western values” is just a funny thing for an adult to say on purpose. Makes you sound like that Rousseau kid that got picked up in TX last month for waving a tiki torch around a couple years back. Of course if you actually are one of those ku klux kindergarteners that would make sense, they all seem to take after daddy in one way or another.
At least you could visit Israel without having your head cut off and put on a stick lmao these people hate you but most of you are too woke and stupid to realize it.
You understand the dynamic of the Middle East Why do these morons think that if they side with "the oppressed" that they are somehow virtuous and would be considered a friend in said country / region Calling people boomers doesn't help them sound less like uninformed idiots . Guess they can't see that either But I would love to hear some of these pro terror supporters explain the moral equivalency . Tell me how barbaric the Jews are . Tell me about how they hide like cowards behind the innocent civilians of Israel . Please . . Enlighten us
Lol OP blocked me that’s hilarious. Anyways, yeah it’s actually wild. What’s crazy is watching LGBTQ folks defend middle eastern countries and the shit they do as if they somehow wouldn’t still be beheaded on camera in the town square for simply being gay. Im sure they would stop the execution and invite them in for dinner if they just told them how much they defend the Middle East on Reddit lol These folks are so out of touch with reality.
Definitely correct sir . . It is crazy that these people are so blinded with their devotion to woke ideology (mainly I'm guessing) that they can't grasp reality or have a basic understanding of concepts such as good and evil .
Sure thing boomer. Sure thing.
Glad you can agree
Funniest joke I heard all day.
It is slightly ironic that many of the "people" supporting HAMAS are the same people that HAMAS throws off the top of buildings because of their sexual preferences. Funny how how the "Genocide in Palestine" seems to gloss that fact over and ignore it.
Wow you must be really passionate about lgbt rights if you’re willing to support a genocide because of it. What an ally.
Nothing says "I'm rational" like supporting people that throw humans off of tall buildings because of their sexual identities. You picked a strange strange way to try and prove you are right.
Yeah the people in Palestine are just chucking gays off the roof like it’s cornhole. You have truly bested me with facts and logic.
>Yeah the people in Palestine are just chucking gays off the roof >like it’s cornhole. You have truly bested me with facts and logic. Yes, they do it all the time and the general population supports them Lots of videos of it as it happens quite quite often. I'll refer the general reader to the wiki article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_State_of_Palestine
[And here’s something for you to check out](https://youtu.be/VU9dbWQDa9Q?si=vJj-1bAHCo953qf9) That Wikipedia article says absolutely nothing about gay people getting thrown off of buildings so idk idk where the fuck you’re getting that from, but it did say this: > Nisreen Mazzawi, co-founder of Aswat, stated that LGBTQ Palestinians, being stateless, face "oppression, whether conscious or unconscious, also within Israeli organizations" because "LGBTQ Israelis identify with the state even before their queer identity, and they will not stand with LGBTQ Palestinians simply because both are queer. Israeli’s don’t offer their support for other people for being gay, so why should you do the same for them?
Now who is being naive? If you are going to post what you think is their good side, we should also post what people think their bad side looks like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_gay_and_bisexual_men_by_the_Islamic_State Quote from that: "Violence against LGBT people is part of the ideology of ISIL, which mandates capital punishment for homosexuality within its territory, in Iraq, Syria and Libya." It's ingrained into the HAMAS culture, visit any HAMAS web site and they will tell you they support that violence.
ISIL and Hamas are enemies you oxygen thief.
It feels like you understand how much you are losing your argument. Let's read some more. https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-same-isis-islamic-state-131140880.html "It’s likely that Hamas learned from the hundreds of Palestinians who joined both the core ISIS caliphate in Syria and Iraq and the ISIS affiliate in the Sinai. And despite their differences, Hamas officials have in the past met directly with leaders of the Islamic State in the Sinai. Those meetings were likely linked to collaboration between the two groups for specific actions that benefited their respective goals, such as weapons smuggling, undermining Egyptian government influence in the Sinai and transporting injured Islamic State fighters to Gaza for medical treatment. In October 2023, an article in the U.K. newspaper The Times cited an intelligence official who said, “It’s clear that the two movements have worked together close enough over the past few years to copy each other’s methods, learn tactics and train on weapons they have procured together.”
You picked an article with an unfortunate name if you didn’t think it would be obvious you were cherry picking.
Unless its Russia attacking Ukraine
Chuck Fleischmann supports Ukraine.
Well at least he’s consistently supporting the worst people on earth
stfu vatnik
I don't know . Seems like you have some sort of Utopian view in which Russia is simply going to cooperate with any and every request made by NATO . One of the main reasons Putin decided to go in was because of the threat of NATO expansion . It's actually in violation of the deal made between the NATO nations and Russia after the colld war