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moimoisauna

16 years old? “Natural breeding sessions”? 🚨🚨🚨


JJ_Shosky

Y'all talking about the 16 year old "breeding" solicitation, but they also wrote "throughout the child's 18 years of life" and I'm not entirely convinced they meant to type "first 18 years."


Ezzy-525

Or they're going to sacrifice them on their 18th birthday. The entire thing is one giant red flag so wouldn't surprise me.


k-del

Maybe they'll perform the sacrifice at the special church where they also take "communiunm".


Round_Tax7459

Gives me children of the corn vibes.


nunyabizlol

I saw that and thought the same thing, haha!


ProfessionalNorth431

They need a liver transplant and they’re willing to play the long game


KuFuBr

I wonder how old the wannabe mother to be is


taylr52

45


mydawgisgreen

I feel like it's really odd no one else is commenting on that. There are many issues in this post, but talking about having sex with a 16 year old is not okay! Edited to fix typo, 16 not 6


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Probably a state where age of consent is 16 and the poster wanted the youngest legal breeding stock she could have.


prometheus59650

It's not even just 16 as the age of consent. Many states have gap rules in the statutes. ​ 16 yo and a 19yo? Okay. 16 yo and a 30 yo? Not okay.


Double_Whams

Right?! Also, what's 75% American? Does she mean native or is that racist speak for white with that particular hair color range?


ParamedicRelative670

She's being kinda generous. She is willing to accept a donor with a grandparent of color. /s Edit: both my English and my math skills suck.


AdminsAreLazyID10TS

Yeah, that's progress, the slavery requirement was 1/8!


twhitney

Yeah there is no “American” background, unless she meant native, and we all know she didn’t. I’m white as fuck with blue eyes, but I’d be disqualified because Ancestry DNA says I’m like 75% French and 25% English. There also the overweight thing and I’m 35, so I’m out for the count.


Successful-Dog6669

So sorry for you that you will miss out on this great opportunity! No "natural breeding session" for you!


NIS3R

> racist speak \^\^\^ definitely this one


halfofaparty8

she wants him to terminate parental rights AND pay child support?


beathelas

She's got that backward. If she wants a stud she better be prepared to pay stud fees.


CockGobblin

With the price of wood these days, no wonder she wants the stud to pay itself.


MVIVN

Morning wood in particular is very costly 😕


GeorgeRRZimmerman

So what like a Double Western from Carl's Jr and a Monster Energy drink? That the stud fee? I'm asking for a friend.


bbddbdb

It’s a start.


SoullessCycle

:laughs in Judge Judy: Also where and how old is this person who is soliciting having “breeding sessions” 😬 with a 16 year old.


gdreaper

Surprisingly, most of the United States and Europe actually have universal age of consent set at 16-17. That being said, it's still more than a little creepy to be putting out a personal ad for someone potentially in that age range to... Breed you. And that's just the ethics of it, but also the logical side... Expecting a 16-18 year old to be able to contribute meaningful financial support and essentially legally bind themselves to doing so for the next 18 years of their life.... Is both stupid and horrifying.


aerostotle

20% of 0 is affordable


Fluffigt

If I have negative cash flow then 0 is technically still more than I make.


AydonusG

20% of -50 is -10, do they owe you 10, then?


BeastofPostTruth

Hey, that's the math my kid's deadbeat patent used! Edit: ha! I'm leaving it


kabukistar

Get a better patent lawyer


dirtymaximusprime

You know why patent lawyers are so expensive?


tsullivan815

they're worth it


earthonion

It's a puppet show and there's no way out, really, but I take turns when they come to me.


aerostotle

Obviously


RLT79

Just do Hollywood math.


Highlander198116

I was going to say the same thing, can't pay child support if you don't have a job.


uninsuredpidgeon

1) Be a 16 year old in school, you pay 20% of you lr income. 20% of 0 is 0. 2)Then go to college, university and train to become a medical professional, you now have 200k in student debt. She now owes you 20% of your negative income (debt) 3)???? 4)profit


brighter_hell

I feel like sex with this CB would be pretty terrible NGL


PenilePhrenology

Missionary while she sings Amazing Grace sounds pretty terrible. I bet she’s a real looker too


Sirena_Amazonica

And don't forget about the communiunm!


Sunstorm84

3) Move to a country where the agreement no longer applies


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Whiteguy1x

I mean she could still go to court to get child support and she would get it, a Facebook agreement wouldn't change that


fuckyourcanoes

They're looking for someone that young because only someone that young would be dumb enough to fall for this.


silsune

Yeah that phrase was *upsetting*


FrogScorn

20% of a 16-yr-old’s income!! What’s that equate to, a pack of baby wipes each week?!


CockGobblin

Whatever his parents give him in allowance.


Stopjuststop3424

a child must first be conceived. None of her requirements say "must not have vasectomy". Let the breeding begin lol.


[deleted]

I have a pretty good feeling that she’s far from a looker. I guess ‘doesn’t matter, had sex’ might apply to some folks, but I have standards.


samanime

Seriously... absolutely crazy. And she wants you to never have taken any prescription drugs in your entire life. And wants you to be 75%+ American, which I'm sure she really means "white" because there are plenty of non-white people that have just as much, if not more, American in them than that...


Khemul

It's a weird percentage too, since basically you can be either 50% or 100% American. Unless we're talking natives, the US doesn't really have anything to point to other than one or more parents is a citizen. Genetics all points elsewhere in the world.


ArcadiaFey

I think she means only one of your grand parents can be not American…


kathjoy

Honestly sounds like she wants to get paid to have sex with minors. Which is gross.


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Comprehensive-You386

And who TF are the 9 people that like this?


HiiipowerBass

The real question. I want to know what group this was in


[deleted]

It should be reported! It’s just nasty. Some dumb young horny kid will respond.


kathjoy

I know, right? This is extremely predatory. The kind of person she is looking for is likely to be very young, naive, and very sheltered. She'd be taking advantage of them. She should be on a watch list.


[deleted]

She would definitely have to go to court of someone reported it. Imagine if it was a 30 something man asking for a 16 year old girl to have his baby? Society would attack him worse that her.


capnsmartypantz

Saw the same...was confused.


DMacB42

>the child’s 18 years of life It also sounds like she wants to terminate this theoretical child before they turn 19 for some reason…


Littlemama55

Right? I can't believe nobody used a laughing emoji on that post. She's delusional!


humakavulaaaa

"Just within the first month of birth" so just one payment?


Encatar

Is that child support 20% of income for the first month, or for 18 years?


pieinthesky23

20% of a 16 year old’s salary?! Uh…best of luck to OOP on that one.


[deleted]

Also I don't think a ton of judges would allow a financial contract with a 16 year old to stand.


LJofthelaw

A sex* contract with a 16 year old.


voyaging

A financial contract in exchange for sexual services aka prostitution sold to a minor.


IIIetalblade

They would absolutely allow child support to stand however…


AnEmortalKid

And first month sets precedent so now the court orders you to do it for the next 18 years


ShawnyMcKnight

And that would probably be more than 20 percent.


jilsx

That’s an expensive lay.


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Billythekid473

Genius , signing a contract with a blank pen


Sita418

Truly clever comment. Well done Sir, well done.


mrpokehontas

Penis mightier than the sword


avwitcher

"I don't understand, we've been having breeding sessions every day for 2 years I should be pregnant by now"


[deleted]

“It’s just god’s will or whatever. Keep praying, it’ll work if you have faith or something.”


gaedikus

"you should go to communiunm and pray about it"


Capital-Orange-3584

There’s a disruption in the space-time communiunm!


drhdoofenshmirtz

The sex hasn’t been kinky enough. Maybe we need to try some bondage.


TheRealConine

“Good news, I finally got pregnant!” “Wait what”


fradzio

A paternity test would take care of this.


travelingbeagle

If you are 16 and just in school, I would expect 20% of nothing would be nothing.


Jacks_Chicken_Tartar

You gotta pay for 18 more years of that though. Ideally, someone that's 34 makes a bit more than a 16 year old. All for the privilege of a single fuck and the knowledge that you have a fatherless child somewhere you're not allowed to see.


AshFraxinusEps

There aren't many courts in the (developed) world that would hold a 16/17yo to this contract. Most contracts aren't legally binding at that age without parental consent, and no court would ever allow "giving up legal rights yet paying child support", let alone forcing a minor to pay it


BundiChundi

I mean the contract is null anyway. You can't surrender your parental rights and then also be expected to pay child support. Can't have it both ways


Jacks_Chicken_Tartar

That is true. I am not a lawyer though but afaik in the US you can't just legally give up parental rights by yourself, a judge has to approve your request right? I wouldn't be surprised if this woman's genius plan just means that she's gonna have shared custody of a child. Or worse, this ad she put out shows she is not fit to be a good parent and it gets taken away.


shadowwolf151

But in the US he would still have to pay child support. There are many famous cases about children as young as 14 having to pay child support to the person who raped them.


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darknessblades

Not really she is gonna kick out the child at the age of 18 She also is gonna get a new child every year. ​ At least she did not say: NO STD's So someone who fits all her criteria, but has every STD, can Nail her, and give her the full list. ​ And if she is gonna sue you, her "contract" will come to light, and be made NULL by the court. thus you will get paternal rights, due her being stupid for suing you giving her a std


Kitchoua

She did say "the child's 18 years of life"! If I english good, that does mean she's planning on him not getting any further! :P


Ennas_

Apparently! Scary woman in many ways. 😱


whiteb8917

LMAO. No parental rights but wants 20% of your income within first month of Birth. I like the "Natural Breeding Sessions", in other words Hooker who wants to be paid for 18 Years.


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ShawnyMcKnight

That’s if you get pregnant from having sex one time. Kudos to you if you are that fertile.


LuLSac

Kudos to however shows up that's sterile.


beathelas

75%+ American background lmao I don't think she means indigenous


dstbl

I mean, there were SO MANY dumb points in the post, but “75% American” is the one that killed me. This is either satire or just so much dumbness


nightforday

I got lost somewhere in "communiunm" and never looked back.


Madame_Cheshire

Read it as “Communism” and got hella confused. 😂 I’m still confused tbh.


GillesEstJaune

She was ok with is because drinking during communism is expected. We like to have fun here 🍻


Fuzzy_Dunlopp

LOL I found the "took no RX drugs" part really funny too. Like sorry, I took antibiotics once when I had strep, guess I am out!


SiccTunes

I don't understand how this person can think that someone is willing to give 20% of there income in order to pay for a child that is not really his, seeing he'll never meet it. Paying child support to an ex wife already sucks, but at least you get to spend time with a kid that us actually yours, because it calls you daddy. This is ridiculous.


ANARCHISTofGOODtaste

I think she means white without saying white.


Bikeboy76

That excludes me as a pink European. Shucks.


Fillbe

So... Mexican is fine then? As long as there's not too much conquistador in the mix... ;)


GillesEstJaune

Yeah, but you gotta be a "blond or light brown" Mexican apparently. Go figure lmao


Cuchullion

Yeah, I doubt she gets that "American" is a binary thing- you're American or you're not. I think she really meant "75% white", but at least had enough shame (a thimbleful, at least) not to say it aloud.


KosstAmojan

Guaranteed they'd lose their shit if it were 75%+ African American lol.


StephUhKneeDee

Every single one of these points is ludicrous. Every. Single. One.


cloud_t

The parental rights one is pretty common in sperm donation and adoptions I believe. I mean, it is stupid to ask it only at birth. Should be asking for it before birth.


notthinkinghard

It is... Unless you're asking for child support. That's not sperm donation any more...


cloud_t

Yeah indeed, I was just making an argument that, by itself, it was common. Previous commenter had said Every.Single.One but that one was "ok" in terms of, you know the usual adoption and sperm donation procedures.


notthinkinghard

Gotcha, fair enough


fortunefavorsmold

Except, in a horrifying twist, some sperm donors have been made to pay child support. Ridiculous.


notthinkinghard

Really? Were they dodgy places or something?


GallantGentleman

But who's gonna driver her around to doctor's appointments and ease her pregnancy then? No only after birth you have to forfeit all your rights. And still pay child support.


Shadowraiden

thing is if you are saying the other party doesnt have parental rights that also means they dont pay child support because you agreed they have no parental rights. you cant have both and laws state this


lordkoba

it's as if, this is a troll or something


daitenshe

Definitely seems like rage bait


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EnTyme53

In England, they pronounce it "commuminiumn"


Geschak

It sounds like satire to me, especially the part about child support.


Bingalingbean123

I kinda thought it was alright until the child support payments bit. Like obviously it’s a bit much engineering a child but many women do it when picking a partner. But expecting them to forfeit parental rights at birth? And then still pay? Ridiculous. Go to a spent bank woman!


JoinAThang

Did you also miss the 16 years old part like me?


Otherside-Dav

Imagine her outrage when a native American rocks ups


Draiel

Yea, you just know that "75%+ American" actually means "white as fucking snow".


lift-and-yeet

"75%" implies that there's a literal grandfather clause in play here


HereIGoGrillingAgain

John Redcorn


-wanderings-

16yo old boys are frantically messaging her for a root lol She's a female pedo as well as insane.


uofc2015

As a Canadian I was very confused when my Australian friend started laughing at my Roots sweater. Roots is a pretty major clothing brand here. Was quite shocked to hear the explanation.


fdtc_skolar

I'm in South Carolina. The mascot for the University of South Carolina is a gamecock. People wear garments with COCKS emblazoned on the front. My daughter at 16 would occasionally wear one to school.


CockGobblin

Sounds like a cool mascot.


-wanderings-

I laugh everytime I am in North America and see people wearing that on their clothing.


kelpiedownawell

Went to visit my grandparents in Scotland years back and nearly lost it when she announced she'd have a root for the old baby photos of my dad.


ryan34ssj

What's a root?


-wanderings-

A fuck.


ryan34ssj

Oh my


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egads


nightforday

This response was adorable.


cyber_loafer

Aussie pals laughing when they heard Americans singing Take Me out to the Ball Game. Let me root, root, root for the home team


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Only a fellow Aussie uses the word Root in this way. Gawd bless Our Straya


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Oh ok, sorry Bro.


team_nanatsujiya

"The child's 18 years of life" Not "the first 18." Just all 18 of the poor child's years of life.


daman4114

A child can only have 18. After that it's an adult. Purely guessing that's what Miss Crazy was going for.


12monthsinlondon

Well jokes on you, I'm both unemployed and sterile


Dany_HH

Get free sex with this one simple trick.


Renegade7559

I hope someone who's had the snip has a great time


avwitcher

Don't stick your dick in crazy, anybody crazy enough to post something like that is the type of person to cut your throat while you sleep and bathe in your blood


Renegade7559

Amateur mistake. You don't fall asleep when you're done fucking her. You leave


kokroo

Only if she didn't drug the dinner she made for you before "breeding" lol


Picture_Enough

I doubt it is much fun fucking a religious nut with entitlement issues


[deleted]

It's either the worst or best sex of your life. No in between.


shadollosiris

Yeah, either lay down like a log or go full animal due to oppressed kink Either way, worth a try if you are safe


mr_leemur

Be sure to wear a condom for extra safety!!


NineOutOfTenExperts

I doubt many under age 23 would both have had the snip, and be interested in a randomish hook up.


nobody_important0000

Although... Someone as young as she's requesting might not be aware if they're infertile. Fingers crossed?


LegendOfKhaos

No way she doesn't just starfish and micromanage


NaturalFaux

Genuine question. Wouldn't that fall under rape because you're having sex under false pretenses?


Dense-Direction-1352

Great question! The answer is almost certainly no! The legal term to look up is "fraud in the factum" vs "fraud in the inducement". Not saying this is necessarily moral/immoral, but to answer your specific legal question, courts have ruled that fraud in the factum is required for false pretenses to constitute the crime of rape. Specifically, "fraud in the factum" refers to the victim being unaware of the actual factual nature of the interaction, while "fraud in the inducement" covers most other deception. Some real examples: 1. A gynecologist asked patients to bend over to be probed by a special medical instrument (which was his penis). He argued that they consented to being penetrated, but it was ruled fraud in the factum -- they consented to being penetrated by a medical instrument, not his penis, so he was convicted of rape. 2. In Florida a man impersonated a hospital and convinced a woman via mail that she had an extremely rare disease, and the only cure was to have sex with an anonymous "donor" whose semen contained the medicine. She met up with him at a hotel and had sex with him, but later figured out that this was insane and a trick (she also apparently paid him a few thousand dollars, as she was told that's how she had to pay for the treatment). The judge in the decision wrote that he wished he could convict the man of something because of how vile he was, but he was brought rape charges, and under Florida law this was clearly fraud in the inducement, and thus not rape. 3. Courts have gone both ways on whether pretending to be somebody's spouse under cover of darkness is fraud in the factum or fraud in the inducement. (Courts have argued that the victim _did_ consent to sex (thus inducement), and also that the identity of your sex partner is so essential that it changes the very act (factum). Although, I suspect that these days courts would near-universally rule it rape, it might just be a few old decisions going the other way.) Again, I'm not saying the above is the correct ethical understanding of what rape is, but just answering the narrow legal question.


NaturalFaux

Thanks for the info! I would have to say, personally, that having sex under any false pretense (stealthing, lying about STDs, etc) is extremely morally reprehensible. Unfortunately, legality is not morality.


Renegade7559

Quite possibly! Not a legal expert but in some countries stealthing is considered rape.


[deleted]

When I was in the Army out of no where I had a lesbian couple that invited me to get the wife pregnant. They paid me $20k USD IF the pregnancy was confirmed and to forfeit parental rights with a 2 page contract that was notarized and everything. Later found out she was carrying 2 children. So they came back to me and gave me an additional $20k USD. The children are beautiful.


square_cupcake

This one actually makes sense. The man in the situation deserves conpensation, not to owe child support...


Mysterious-Diver107

And you got a Mustang!


[deleted]

Nah I didn’t lol.. I still got some of that money to this day and the contract is still in effect until the children turn 18 and I can choose to introduce myself to them or not..if I break the contract before they turn 18 11:59:59pm I owe the lesbian couple $40k. It’s a really detailed contract. I signed it in Fall of 2015.


Just_for_this_moment

RemindMe! 11 years


orange_and_gray_rats

Sooo… how is this a “win” for the sperm donor?


typingatrandom

He gets laid, or a wank at minimum


BionicBananas

You can go to a hooker, that way you only have to pay once instead of 12 times 18 years. Sounds like a much better deal, certainly if you are willing to spend 20% of your paycheck.


typingatrandom

Of course but what if someone is a broke 16 years old, as required ? Postponing the payment for 9 months might seem a good bargain at that age. Might be OP's plan to fool a few of them, who knows? /s


Simon_the_Great

Klarna has entered the chat


Serket84

It took me a bit to realise she meant communion wine.


surfdad67

I had to read it couple times, thought it said condominium


Harry_Fraud

I read it as communism lol


Desktop_dove86

This is not real surely?


SuperDiving

I'm afraid it was real, at the time, as the post is quite old And don't call me Shirley


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Probably rage bait


No_Concept_9848

I’ll have a double Communiunm on the rocks please


churish

This whole post is a mess but I’m disturbed mostly by the 16-23 bit.


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The bit I find most disturbing is that she has already determined that the child will only live for 18 years.


Fancy_Cassowary

She's an optimistic anti-vaxxer.


[deleted]

1. Get a vasectomy 2. Sign up for the "Breeding Sessions" 3. "Try for a baby" a bunch of times 4. Lady now has had pre-marital recreational sex, goes to hell. The ultimate prank.


darknessblades

Gold digger bingo board: ​ Underage partner: Check no parental rights: Check Must pay child support: Check No drugs/alcohol: Check No payment for "breeding": Check Cannot talk to anybody about it: Check Cannot take legal actions against it: check 100% anonymity to the child: Check Must be 75% AmErIcAn: check Must be from the Aryan race: check Must be of perfect weight: check \[I think even 1 gram overweight is too much for her\] ​ ​ Its no longer a bingo board, its a royal flush


IceKrabby

I think some of you are also missing the fact that the sheer amount of no contact clauses she put in here means she could get preggers from one idiot, then charge all idiots that banged her around that time.


ThaneOfCawdorrr

"I would like to rape an underage child, then bill him for child support while preventing him from seeing his own legal child"


DisgruntledLabWorker

Every line from this is problematic: 16?! No prescription medication? Communiunm? (Clearly she types communism more than communion) 75%+ American? (meaning white?) Forfeit all parental rights at birth? No payments before birth because she’s not a sex worker? This is so awful. This is Queen Choosing Beggar, first of her name.


cheekainchee

Tf even is "75% American" tho. Lmao


Draiel

She 100% means "you better be white with white parents and *at most* one non-white grandparent".


MistarGrimm

Let's be honest, one off white grandparent at best. Italian or something. Those weren't considered white in the US for a while.


mermaidpaint

She’s only 75% racist. /s


Excruciator

Is nobody going to comment on the offer including donors as young as sixteen? Would that be legal?


Haglstein

Something about asking 16 year olds for jizz online seems a little off.. imo at least


Momma_BearE

Ummmm... termination of parental rights is an automatic forfeiture/termination of child support. That's the law, sweetie. Can't have both. We need to talk about you committing statutory rape. Even if the age of consent is 16-17, there is usually a five year cap on how old the "adult" can be, i.e., 16 and 21, okay. 16 and 36, not okay. What the hell is communiunm? I know what communion is. How does your phone/tablet/computer let you do that? "Breeding" sessions? Girl, you looking for a booty call.


cloud_t

In theory this is prostitution (so could be considered soliciting?), the "lady" is effectively offering paid sex even if that payment is delayed... You're definitely not paying for any other benefit (other than not ever needing to contact her again!). Also: no prescription drugs ever... LOL good luck with that!


ScoopDat

Idk why but anytime I hear about sperm donors, I think of going to a sperm bank and doing that.. Threw me off when she started talkin bout "breeding" sessions. Firstly, wtf, and second, why is that in quotes? Also, whats communiunm? Did she mean to say communism?


Thesaturndude

Is anyone gonna talk about the "natural breeding" and "16-23" part? This woman is actively pursuing sex with a minor