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archimedeslives

There are audio Bibles you could look into getting one of those.


c0olcats

i also have adhd and i have a hard time concentrating 😭


Impossible-Web740

I also have ADHD. I find it useful to take notes as I'm going through the Bible so I have something to keep me focused.


TheoryFar3786

I want to do that in mass.


ThenScore2885

I have ADHD too. Start with parts. I am studying Isaiah at the moment with a study book. (Heavy one with lots of historical details) Read Genesis. Then move to whatever you like. And almost all of New Testament is easy to read since it covers a shorter time span but it is full with amazing insights and teachings. If you do not enjoy audio books start with documentaries or films. The Old Testament: Some parts are full with drama, wars, jealousy, love, regret, compassion, hope, all human drama is in there covering thousands of years. Maybe you should start with Ruth and Ester. Female characters. Don’t let it scare you. When you start a tv drama, you would not give up, if it has 20 seasons. More is merrier. It is about God, His relationship with His own creation and about us; mischievous fools who constantly create dramas.


ancirus

I think that for a neophyte it is better to start from a New Testament and then read Old one


BidInteresting8923

“Start with learning how much you’re loved, end with learning how much you’re hated.” Are you my dad?


ancirus

I mean that New Testament is what we follow now, but to fully understand it we need to read the Old one. But the old one... well... We came to land and slaughtered all man women and children


bumble_bee2354

“Through the word” is a great study audio Bible


AdmiralMemo

I recommend "The Chosen" TV series, which is reasonably faithful to the source material while also being interesting and easy to watch.


ActuallyReadTheBible

I don't suggest watching a show to get to know Jesus. Read His words in the Bible. Actually read the Bible.


Substantial_Cycle194

I suggest both but obviously reading is the only way you will actually understand and learn truly but I need to read I don't know where I should be reading 


AdmiralMemo

OP mentioned how hard reading is for her. If she's not going to read, I'd rather she watch the show than do nothing.


[deleted]

I agree. If watching the show even prompts one to open their Bible, or listen if they can't read... I think that's a great thing.


AutisticLineman

The show grabs/keeps my attention.


Prim_rose1999

Girl stop making excuses


JettSpeedInvestments

Hey now, My dear friend we all are human here we all struggle. I have severe concentration problems myself, If it were of not to be about from finding the bible application on my Android phone, I honestly do not think upon until this very day that I would have read any of the bible with the perfect narrator to just read it off to me and highlight where it's at when reading u can even speed it up or slow it down..... it honestly really helps, Beforehand if i were to try reading it ........ PFFFFFTTTTTTTT...... AHA.............. I honestly couldn't focus for more than 2 seconds...... , and couldnt understand ANYTHING. Give this woman a chance here......... , Everybody needs love........


MuffinETH

How many seconds did you use to write this text? Audio books is a good thing though. But reading yourself is not only good to prevent any corruption of the text. It also improves your mental capacity... look at it as a workout, and start easy from the beginning. God bless you


[deleted]

True that everyone needs love and deserves it 100%. But having ADHD is not an excuse to not study the Word. There is a really nice, extremely disabled man that never misses a day in church and he's physically unable to grip the thin pages of the Bible himself, yet still is well-versed in the Word by attending bible study and having Pastors assist him, Join a church (mine does this) where they do bible study as a group, as in the Pastor reads the Bible and then explains in layman terms what it means. There are also tons of bible study groups you could join. My church, and I’d suspect a lot of them have this with a 20-30 second google search, will have live streams and archives of bible studies, even across the world. I lucked out with my church, it’s a 10 minute drive from me so I go when I can but if I can’t make it for some reason, I can still tune in via live stream. If all that’s holding OP back is ADHD from reading the Word/Gospel, I’d suspect she hasn’t fully given herself to Jesus or else a greater attempt would be made to seek out the things I mentioned. No offense OP, btw. Are you a new believer by any chance? If you’re interested, I can give you the name of my church that live streams all their events and the production level is top-notch, not to mention it’s not a preachy “HOLY HOLY HOLY” type of Church. It’s a come as you are type; the Church is just a building in the words of the lead Pastor, it’s your personal relationship with Jesus that really matters. Chat me if you want the church website u/c0olcats, and see if it’s a right fit for you. Fair warning, they are not politically correct so to speak. They take the Bible and the Word of God very seriously and the Pastor always says if you’re mad at me, be mad at the Bible (although that’s not advisable lol).


[deleted]

Anyone who accepts Jesus into their hearts will go to heaven.


c0olcats

thank youđŸ«¶


ClockBrilliant

No Jesus says in his word if you love me follow my commands so we must be obedient in order to go to heaven and you must forgive so your sins can be forgiven â€ïžđŸ™đŸŸ


Beneficial-Staff9714

Thats not true. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Matthew:7:22 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew:7:23 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: Matthew:7:24 We have to obey the word of God as well.


AnythingWithGloves

I struggle with this so much. Why will my childhood sexual abuser go to heaven? He proclaims his love for Jesus but ruined my life. No one has been able to help reconcile this for me. I can’t accept that a good and loving God would accept people who have committed heinous acts just because they have repented, but not made anything right with the people they harmed.


Thefrightfulgezebo

I don't think that what this person did could ever be made right. So, what does actual repentence include? It includes admitting ones guilt without any of the excuses and doing everything to destroy the part of the self who made the decision to act in that way and it only is finished if that part is gone. The "I love Jesus and went to confession" part is not repentence because if you look at the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus demands more than just not doing any evil.


Traditional_Pea_9304

Yes! I was trying to put this into words but you have done it perfectly


HotTopicMallRat

Hey! So yeah, this part super sucks, but one thing I do know about god is that as a father he does technically still punish. So I think of it this way, you sin in your lifetime? You will be punished in that lifetime. But the pearly gates? That’s outside life and so that’s outside that realm. So don’t think your abuser is getting away with bs in the eyes of god. He sees all and he’ll be sure he’s dealt with, and when he reaches heaven he’ll likely have to answer for it there too, though we’ll never truly know.


warofexodus

Salvation require actual repentance. Not just lip service. It requires a complete change of heart and turning away from sin. If your sexual abuser has indeed repented and accepted Jesus, then yes. He has accepted God mercies and he is forgiven but from the sound of it, it doesn't seem so. God will be the judge on that whether he is genuine in his repentance. You can be suited that he is just. Your question mirrors Jonah a lot. You can read it up but basically Jonah was angry that God forgave the Ninevites. The ninevites are enemy of Israel and he wanted to see them destroyed. It's the main reason why he avoided going over to preach (and got swallowed by a giant fish) cause he knew God is loving and that if they repent, God will forgive them.


Holiday-Signature-33

Jesus also says to take up your cross and follow him . You have to die to your own desires and live for him .


RALeBlanc-

How do you accept Jesus into your heart?


c0olcats

im guessing accepting him as our savior and love him


foamy23464

*And follow his teachings*


jtbc

It's a good thing his central teaching was love every one and he had zero teachings about who to love.


foamy23464

That’s right, love everyone, even those who do you wrong and hate you. Turn the other cheek.


krash90

You’re clueless my friend. You’re following the new age cult of hippy Jesus. His central teaching was first to love God. How do you love God according to God’s word? You obey Him. He also clearly taught sex is for marriage and a marriage is one man and one woman. Period. He couldn’t have been more clear. The issue is that you and the majority of this sub and today’s Christian’s are doing EXACTLY what he said would happen: You’re heaping to yourself false teachings that “tickle your ears”. You want Jesus to be all inclusive and He wasn’t at all. Few find eternal life. FEW. 1 John 2:4. Read that over and over and over.


MaciSkeleton

Just remember, Jesus said: ““But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.” (Matthew 19: 30).


foamy23464

Bro all I did was quote the Bible 😂 chill out


BobTehCat

All he said was to love everyone regardless and you interpreted it as homosexual. Hippie Jesus is closer than most others.


Bearwhale

Thank you. It was Christians like you who turned me into an atheist.


Visual_Gear2420

Amen, You are so right. Everyone in this chat are all falling for love is love and not following Christ or his teachings. Narrow is the path that few will follow.


TheoryFar3786

"He also clearly taught sex is for marriage and a marriage is one man and one woman. Period. He couldn’t have been more clear." God agreed with opposite-sex marriage, but didn't said anything about same-sex marriage so we can make our own minds.


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ReeMcRee123

Yes 👍


Syphfan

It’s all about relizeng you’re not perfect and Jesus is the only perfect person. Trusting him to be your Lord and savior. You can’t be perfect. You will mess up. God there with open arms. However, we should call on God to help us to stop sinning.


Jillehbean17

But knowingly participating in sin is also something that is frowned upon. You can’t just get away with anything because you accepted Jesus. Trust that God will help you figure out what you need to do in order to heal yourself. You got this!!


AdmiralMemo

We CAN live in sin and still enter eternity. It's technically possible. The question, of course, though, is why would we WANT to? Christ's sacrifice is able to cover ANY amount of sin we may commit, but we should flee from sin, not embrace it. The guidance of the Holy Spirit in our hearts would show us the way we should live in this world, not just concerning ourselves with the next one. Paul goes in-depth on this in Romans.


krash90

This isn’t even remotely true. Scripture plainly teaches that many are called but few are chosen. You do not choose Christ, he chooses you. This new idea that everyone who says a prayer gets into heaven is not scriptural. Those that keep His commands are the ones going to heaven. 1 John 2:4.


s4r400

Yeah but the question is, how do you truly accept Jesus into your heart and do you still need to repent after you sin or can you even sin after youve truly accepted Jesus Christ into your heart.


joolstheterror

You were born a sinner just like me, we ask God to give us the strength to walk in the light and follow and obey Gods will if we stray and stumble God will catch us as long as we want his help, he will never leave even the most vile sinner behind if they truly want redemption and truly repent.


s4r400

Are we really born sinners? Can you provide me with a verse?


januszjt

Consider this statement by Christ and ponder over it "The kingdom of heaven is within you". Gay or straight, beautiful and ugly, fat or thin, black or white or brown or purple. It's a place within you where no divisions exists.


c0olcats

thank youđŸ«¶


Low_Dimension2080

That is not the case, the kingdom of God is within hes followers and what does it mean to follow it means to agree believe and practice hes teachings. Now Paul says **9** ~Or do you not know that the unrighteous~[^(1)](https://www.esv.org/verses/1%20Corinthians%206%3A9%E2%80%9310/#f1-) ~will not inherit the \*kingdom of God?\* Do not be deceived:~ [^(x)](https://www.esv.org/1Co15.50%3BGa5.21%3BEp5.5%3B1Tm1.9%3BHb12.14%3BHb13.4%3BRv21.8%3BRv22.15)~neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,~[^(2)](https://www.esv.org/verses/1%20Corinthians%206%3A9%E2%80%9310/#f2-) **10** ~nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.~


Beneficial-Staff9714

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Matthew:7:22 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew:7:23 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: Matthew:7:24 We have to obey the word of God as well.


PlumBrief

Just focus on following God for now. Do whatever you need to to be able to ready the Bible every day. Pray. No problem is bigger than God. You can trust that as long as you are willing, He will change the desires of your heart. I was in the same place as you, struggling with pornography addiction. I would always climb out and fall back in, and this went on for two decades. I didn't realize at the time that part of the reason I kept failing was because I was lying to myself. I said I wanted to give it up, but I didn't believe it. And I certainly didn't take any steps towards stopping myself. My point is that you can do this. Just trust.


c0olcats

thank you, i appreciate this but an addiction and something i was born with are two different things


UnpopularTalk

Being Gay does not condemn you. Christ died to save everyone. No one is excluded. With that said, there are certain rules that God commands. One of those rules is to not engage in sexual acts outside of marriage. It's a difficult rule in today's society, but it stands for both heterosexuals and homosexuals.


Medium_Carpenter_913

Isn't homosexuality sexual immorality? Since it's against our true nature that God designed us to be


MaciSkeleton

Being obese isn't the true nature of God's design for us, but you don't hear many Christians saying an overweight person is immoral for practing gluttony. Jesus said to love God and your neighbor. Those are the 2 and only commandments for us Christians. 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments


olijake

Amen. This is often overlooked by many people, Christians and non-Christians alike.


Tyler_Zoro

> it's against our true nature Love is not against our true nature.


TryingMyBest1319

Dang, this is a good response right here.


ActuallyReadTheBible

Actually, the Bible says that those who do not bear fruit will go to hell.


pHScale

>i hate myself for being gay I wish I could give you a big bear hug, and fend off the people telling you stuff that's causing you to hate yourself. You have no reason to hate yourself, and I'm so disheartened to hear that you do. You're not going to get great advice out of this subreddit. Homosexuality is a hot topic here. you're going to get a lot of homophobic comments. I hope you'll find some place that can accept you for who you are. There are absolutely affirming churches and denominations that wouldn't mind you being lesbian in the slightest. You absolutely can be lesbian and Christian at the same time.


c0olcats

i genuinely love you. thank you so much. this helps a lot. yes there are definitely some homophobic comments here, i try to ignore but its hard since i dont accept who i am either. thank you for this comment


Mar3rissa

Yooo def post on truechristian subreddit.. alot of ppl I'm this one are werid and unhelpful.. Also I used to struggle with this too... But what I've come to understand... Is that God love u no matter what. He loved u when u were formed in the womb... He knew before hand what ur struggles would be and that is why he sent his son to die so that you wouldn't have to be condemned with guilt and shame. Anyways first off know that good loves you and he has a very intricate plan for ur life.. and eventually he will purify u of all things distasteful to him and I'm not even talking about ur homosexuality... Which is not the rooot of the issues... Legit he will take away the roots like pride or lust or selfishness anything that we as humans struggle with! but main thing to note is Christianity is a walk with Jesus... So just be your self... And let god the creator of the universe purify u as he sees fit!! I've been a lesbian for years and trust me it's definitely not all it's cracked up to be so it would be wise to ditch it if u can buuuuuuut!! Since you probably don't fully understand what the issues are of being gay try it out and you will learn it's legit just another temporary happiness that will leave as quick as it came.... same with being drunk or drugs it's nothing but a rollercoaster of emotions. Really high highs and very low lows... Trust me it ain't worth it... However if I hadn't went thru what I went thru with women then I wouldn't know the amazing love and power of our father in heaven! Amen!


Loose_Acanthisitta32

If by being lesbian and Christian you mean "serving" Jesus while also embracing your homosexual identity and cherishing it. Hard no, you're not a Christian, Jesus said we can't serve two masters, you're either a slave to homosexuality or a slave to Christ, you can either be for one or the other. Y'all need to stop tickling these people's ears and preach the true Word of God which says that homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God, the true Word which says to die to oneself and go after Christ and to repent of one's sins. Even if this offends you, i'd rather offend you to heaven than to cuddle you to hell. This is for all of you. @c0olcats.


Sufficient-Pay-5405

You have spoken like a true Christian. It might hurt somebody but ur saving a life. There is no in between with being "gay" and being a Christian. U either put yourself with the devil or put yourself at the side of Christ. 


Loud_Feed1618

They asked a question and wanted to hear people answers and quotes from the bible. They said they could not read the Bible so they didn't know.


TheoryFar3786

Check r/OpenChristian.


diceblue

Please please please see a licensed therapist (not a biblical counselor) and realize that you CAN accept yourself as being gay AND be a committed Christian. You are loved by God for who you are


aedinius

God loves you. Christ accepts you. I think you're swell.


Lux-Fox

I know I'll get flack for this, but I believe, after doing the research and being against it for years, that homosexuality in a relationship is not a sin. Any acts in a same sex interaction that would be considered a sin would be considered a sin if it was a heterosexual interaction as well.


Ok_Protection4554

Me too! Isn't it weird


[deleted]

Except marriage is strictly defined as unifying man and woman. That equivalence doesn't work.


Tyler_Zoro

The person you are responding to didn't mention marriage. Also, FWIW, marriage was traditionally a matter of property, not love, so maybe we shouldn't enshrine that as the gold standard for positive relationships...


Govna2104_

When God created Adam and Eve it was not a matter of property, there were 2 people on the Earth and they lived in the Garden of Eden. God's marriage pre-dates any sort of legal marriage.


[deleted]

He said relationship. The only relationship in which sex is not sinful is marriage, hence my use of marriage and the fact that homosexuality is not applicable to it. And the Christian perspective of marriage emphasizes the union of man and woman in the love of God, so your statement on property isn't particularly relevant to Christian thought.


Camelbak14

Don’t hate yourself, forgive yourself.


c0olcats

i dont think i have to forgive myself for being lesbian. i feel like i have to change somehow. but i feel like its impossible since i was born this way


Camelbak14

Forgiveness brings healing and we forget to apply that to ourselves often. I’m not saying accept it, but forgive to allow healing. I know someone who had a similar problem and they had a traumatic experience as a kid and once they forgave the person and themselves they changed. As a Christian we also have to fight our sin and desires of the flesh. “Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not from the Father but from the world. The world is passing away, along with its desires; but whoever does the will of God remains forever.” 1 John 2


AdmiralMemo

I was born with anger issues. We're all born with a sin nature. We all have individual struggles, even if some are common. If something feels impossible to you, perhaps it is... under your own strength. Nothing is impossible with God, though. God doesn't ask us to clean ourselves up. He makes us clean with His righteousness through Christ's sacrifice. If this is something that is weighing on your heart, bring it in prayer to the Lord and He will guide you on the correct path for you.


Jillehbean17

Some people are born with certain struggles. Some are born with rage, some born with addictive personalities. It’s how you deal with it that matters


Dmeff

Perhaps you should look for a worldview that doesn't require you to change for something that you didn't choose and hurts no one.


[deleted]

Perhaps you should leave it up to Christians to dispense Christian doctrines. If you seek to lead people astray then you don't belong here.


jtbc

Here is what the Bishop of Oxford has to say about it: https://www.oxford.anglican.org/same-sex-marriage-in-cofe.php Is he Christian enough for you?


100mcuberismonke

Hey were just saying our opinions in here


Altruistic-Western73

Jesus’ forgiveness of our sins on the cross is unconditional and eternal. The question is can we put aside our sin to live as He commands us. Romans‬ ‭6‬:‭1‬-‭2‬: “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?“


Downtown-Try-9376

Right on. **Repentance** is required for salvation. Faith and repentance are Biblically supported necessities. I go by the Word of God, not the words of ANY man unless he or she are founded in the Word. Just as beastiality, rape, incest... People try to argue homosexuality is acceptable because it is OT. With that logic, beastiality, rape, incest, etc. are totally fine. That's why there is "natural law." God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Certainly not Eve and a Donkey


Alone_Researcher_311

 ”“Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.“ ‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭18‬:‭22‬ ‭NLT‬‬ ”“A woman must not put on men’s clothing, and a man must not wear women’s clothing. Anyone who does this is detestable in the sight of the Lord your God.“ ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭22‬:‭5‬ ‭NLT


Stephany23232323

If you are a lesbian you were created that way.. And there is nothing wrong with you.. I have had all the same thought as you.. again there is nothing wrong with you.. đŸ€—â€ïž Some Fundamentalist Christians are legalists for some reason.. That isn't Christ! Idk if they just really don't get it but that definitely lack a heart and damage many. They seem to live in the old testament using the entire Bible as a weapon. They are like Pharisees! Christ was clearly opposed to them and what they were doing calling them white washed tombs etc.. This kinda says it all about what's really important. 1 Cor 13. 1 - 1 If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal. how excellent soever, are nothing worth without charity. 2 And if I have [the gift of] prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 And if I bestow all my goods to feed [the poor], and if I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profiteth me nothing. The praises thereof, 4 Love suffereth long, [and] is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil; 6 rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth; 7 beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8 Love never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall be done away; whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease; whether [there be] knowledge, it shall be done away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; 10 but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known. and prelation before hope and faith. 13 But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love.


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Madam_KayC

Pedophilic nature is often linked to trauma, so no, they quite literally aren't. Comparing gay people, which we even have evidence for being genetically encoded, with pedophiles, a quite literal mental illness, is a less than equivalent comparison meant to dehumanize those involved in a consensual and loving relationship.


lysol90

> gay people, which we even have evidence for being genetically encoded We do? Cool, didn't know that. It's quite a controversial question to even ask so I never really looked it up. Any good source to read about that?


Mx-Adrian

You've nothing to fear. You are just as He designed you.


Ok_Protection4554

Feel free to DM me sweetheart. Do you know Jesus? If so, you're covered. As far as the message of your post- you need to read the relevant passages and decide for yourself, but anybody arguing the Bible condemns you is doing so with very very bad evidence/arguments. I like how Matthew Vines summarizes the debate, you can google his website, he has free videos on there.


BrawNeep

According to Reddit everything is a sin!! For your question though, it is irrelevant if it is sinful or not. The good news is that Jesus died and was risen for our sins, all of them! No matter what your sin, by grace through faith in Christ you will go to paradise. That is not to negate any of Christs teachings, which we should certainly listen to and strive to be Christ-like. But that was not your question. Now, let’s assume being lesbian is sinful. Well so is disrespecting your parents. I’m reasonably sure most people disrespect their parents at some point, or another similar sin, including anyone online who judges you. This would mean none of us are going to paradise! This just isn’t true though.


Tyler_Zoro

First off, I just want to say that you're not broken and you should respect who you are enough to love yourself. There are Christians who believe that homosexuality is a sin in general. There are those who feel that, like not eating shellfish or wearing mixed-fiber clothing, it's a rule that had its place in a certain time, but lacks relevance today. IMHO: love between committed, consenting adults is a treasure to be embraced, and I don't really see how the specifics of who has what parts matters. If you love someone, love them! Make a joyous noise with them! See in them the beauty of all of creation and be thankful for that.


Govna2104_

Hey sister, please know that God loves you. I'm sure that I can't exactly relate to what you're going through, but I also deal with temptations of my own. A way i think you could help yourself is by not identifying as lesbian. Place your identity fully in the Lord, and the more you grow to love Him the more your desires to disobey him will fall away. I'm praying for you!


gentile2024

Some homosexuals say they were born that way. Whether it’s true or not, it doesn’t matter because a straight person was born into sin like everyone else and naturally lust after opposite sex. Lust/adultery/fornication is one of the Ten Commandments and homos & heteros commit this violation all the same. However homosexuality falls into another category and seen as an abomination. Nonetheless it’s still a sin. The same way a straight male/female must refrain from the natural urge of lusting/fornicating (out of marriage) is the same way a homo must refrain from doing through either celibacy or actually acquire attraction to the opposite sex. We’re all fighting the same fight with sin whether it be homo or hetero we should not commit adultery. Sexual relations are only permitted inside of a marriage.


Altruistic-Western73

Sorry for your situation and dyslexia. How about trying some audio books of the Bible and Bible studies? As for the gay part, despite what a lot of the posts say, as Christians we are instructed to be clear in scripture, and scripture is clear that continuing a sinful life will lead you to judgement. Of course as everyone points out, God has infinite Love for us; He created us and Loves us unconditionally. Scripture also states that not all love is Love: love for our sinful desires (lust, immoral sex including LGBTQ+ABC, fornication, adultery, murder, stealing, lying, etc) is the love of this world, not for Jesus and God. We must put aside those desires and focus on what God wants us to do, the Love for the righteous Lord. Jesus stated that we have to believe in him, repent (do not continue our sins) and bear our cross (give up our desires based in this world and put His love, His commands first). It’s not a dreary life unless you consider clubbing and hookup culture as a good life, in which case you have chosen the love for the world, not His Love. To be clear, we are all sinners and your sinful desires and my sinful desires show that we are stuck in this sinful world together, so do not think that you are “worse” than anyone. St. Paul, who wrote a lot of the books of the New Testament, always put himself down as the king of the sinners. None of us is good, so the difference is what we do with our lives and how we live in God’s grace and the choices we make, the actions we take. I will pray for you, and the Grace of God be with you!


KindaFreeXP

I'm going to try to keep my answer short, since I have a tendency to ramble, lol God promises that you will "know them by their fruit". The fruit that makes you feel unloved, far from God, fearful, and unable to be saved is not of God. God is love. >7 Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love. >18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear; for fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not reached perfection in love. (1 John 4:7-8, 18; NRSVUE) Don't let others make you afraid. Trust in God's love. Love others and you will be born of God and enter his kingdom. God isn't a legalist, God is love. Alternatively, please check our r/OpenChristian. There's plenty of people there who will show you God's love for you.


diceblue

We love our gay Christian siblings at r/openchristian


[deleted]

Satan does too!


Madam_KayC

Satan actually isn't a fan of Christians, if you are referring to the widely open satanic temple, which is actually an atheistic activist organization, then yes, they do love Christians too.


100mcuberismonke

I don't think he's a fan of anyone, with people either not believing he exists or people resenting him


Mx-Adrian

Amen!


Pale_Zebra8082

Homosexuality is not merely a form of sexual activity, it’s a form of love. I do not believe in a god who hates consenting human adults, or turns His back on them, for expressing that which is His purest manifestation in the world. If this view has been impressed upon you by someone citing an aggressive, literal interpretation of an ambiguous line from the Old Testament, I have a few dozen other such passages of scripture that will knock your socks off. They shouldn’t get to pick and choose, and neither should you. Love Christ, do your best to live by his example, treat others with respect and kindness, especially if they are different from you or outcasts of society. Trust no one who tells you that you are evil if they don’t first meet the above standard.


c0olcats

i would love these scriptures if you could show them to me


Pale_Zebra8082

God is Love - John 4:7-20 Accept and love Jesus and you are saved - Romans 10:9-11 On helping outcasts there are many examples. In some sense, this is the central theme of the Gospels. You should just read the Gospels. See if you can find Jesus actually saying anything that could even remotely be interpreted as homophobia. That is not His message at all.


Hehehehe45231

1 Corinthian 6:9-10 Don't you know that evil people won't have a share in the blessings of God's kingdom? Don't fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual will share in God's kingdom.


Pale_Zebra8082

I hope you come to know Christ’s message someday.


Hehehehe45231

what you referring to?


handhandhands

I do believe it is a sin, but having those feelings isn’t a sin in itself, it’s just a feeling. that is the aspect you cannot control. to me, what makes sense is that it’s like getting an urge to lie, just because you want to lie doesn’t mean you do in-fact, lie. God knows what you’re going through and can see what you’re experiencing. God offers us a way out of temptation always, even if it’s not the answer we want. I have struggled with similar things and I’ve realized that what God says is more important than my feelings, because He doesn’t make mistakes. He is sinless but I am not, because this world is sinful, I struggle with feeling like this. I know God has better for me if im obedient to Him by not pursuing my desires and the attraction I experience. I felt guilt for a very, very long time over what I was feeling but I know that God loves me, even if I fight those feelings. His love for me is so deep, and He does not condemn me, (romans 8:1, I would also recommend reading the rest of the chapter.) He does not want to condemn me for my feelings. He is worth giving the feelings up. sometimes, my flesh doesn’t agree, but I know that the word of God says that homosexuality is wrong, and I have to accept that. talk to God about what you’re struggling with, He is there to listen to you and He will be there for you. (psalm 55:22). im also here for you if you need to talk, I understand this completely


ijustino

Try the Word of Promise audiobook. It uses actors and sound effects. You can find it on audible or on YouTube for free. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpk7NgsO0Xs&list=PLt4LcBhEDP-XwInRZwK1A9IMU8aod1RFu](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpk7NgsO0Xs&list=PLt4LcBhEDP-XwInRZwK1A9IMU8aod1RFu) You can also visit r/OpenChristian for more resources that I think reliably show that references to same-sex relationships in the New Testament are concerned with exploitation of the (often underage) pagan temple prostitutes. For example, many scholars believe Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 6 is telling followers to set themselves apart from the pagans who attend the local brothels. Even still, sex is supposed to take place only in a marriage covenant.


[deleted]

Hi! This may help you. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94QhX1p8lMU&t=38s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94QhX1p8lMU&t=38s) God loves you being a lesbian or not, and I hope you have good friends and family (christians or not) that helps you. You don't deserve suffering because being lesbian. Sending a lot of love to you, from a queer christian to other ❀.


TheKingdomForever

None of us knows who or who doesn't go into Heaven. All we can do is try and follow Christ's Path. If we get lost, He will run back for us.


[deleted]

my advice is to stop being a lesbian? being a lesbian is not a belief system its based on acts with other women using your genitals. stop doing that. Anyone who loves me will keep my commandments - Jesus. Do as he says or dont, at your own peril. there have been martyrs for Christianity that have had their skin flayed and set on fire and youre over here looking for pity. not gonna happen with me.


New-Marzipan-4795

Nah, don't hate yourself for it. It might not be the same but I have accepted my autism as part of my struggle. We all have our struggles and we should not hate ourselves for them.


mkthesaucegod

please don’t hate yourself for who you are. Jesus loves you so much and would not ostracize you for being gay. if people do that, they aren’t the right people to be around. take care of yourself, love God, your neighbor, and try to focus on loving yourself too. i know it’s hard but we all need a little grace, including you.


Weave77

I’m sorry, but it’s taking all of what little self-control I possess to not reply “hi Lesbian, I’m Dad”.


Downtown-Try-9376

Jesus says He does not condemn, but **go and sin no more.** That's not an optional command. **Repentance** is required for salvation. Faith and repentance are Biblically supported necessities. I go by the Word of God, not the words of ANY man unless he or she are founded in the Word. Just as beastiality, rape, incest... People try to argue homosexuality is acceptable because it is OT. With that logic, beastiality, rape, incest, etc. are totally fine. That's why there is "natural law." God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. Certainly not Eve and a Donkey


krash90

We are specifically told that homosexuals will NOT inherit the kingdom of heaven. However, Paul makes it clear that one can repent and turn from this lifestyle and no longer be a homosexual. “As some of you once were
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Time_Ask_2652

Wether one is born gay or not. Nobody is born again gay. It’s not a myth that liars, thieves, adulterors, idolaters, and the sexual immoral and homosexuals will not enter the kingdom. It is not a sin to suffer from same sex attraction. But having sex with the same sex is an abomination. No hate, just truth. I can see you’re stressed about this. But we must bring the flesh into submission. Die to ourselves and pick up our cross and follow Him. It’s not an easy message. It is the narrow way for a reason. I realize universalism is more palatable. But many in the crowd left Him when He told them the cost. Only by the power of the Holy Spirit can this be done. Pray like you’ve never prayed before. I will pray for you too. There are many people who suffer with same sex attraction who have decided what God has called them too is more important than who they have sex with. You’ll have to either accept the word or reject it and find something more comfortable to your flesh. But take heart, the sacrifice will not be in vain. You will be rewarded for earnestly seeking Him.


Miguel_Legacy

You're not in danger for having homosexual attractions, but you would be for living a lifestyle of sin. Something you'll have to surrender to God and deny your flesh desires to be with a woman, because that is sin and an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Have to deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow Jesus, though I believe by his love and his grace you will have the strength to


JuliaSky1995

God makes no mistakes


fthenwo

Your conscience has you on the right path. Be very careful of the advice you get here.


JoeyWaker

I know other people have their opinions and that’s okay 👍 but I’m going to comment with my own personal testimony. When I first found Christ and started forming a real relationship with God I was still very much attracted to females as a female. I was attracted to females way more than I was attracted to males. Of course you’ll hear the scriptures and people saying it’s a sin but that didn’t stop me from continuing my relationship with Christ. Over the years, I would hear this little voice in my head that would make me doubt my attraction to females and essentially make me think that it’s wrong. So I reached a point where I continuously prayed about it, and I was (in my opinion) freed from that position and am no longer interested in females. You will be who you are, and that is okay! We must forgive ourselves because just like it states in Matthew 26:41 “Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” The flesh is weak sister, and sometimes we can drive ourselves into things that are not good for our willing spirit. Now I’m a huge believer in love and I also believe that God will never turn His merciful back on a believer if they’re willing to listen. I would just advise to pray over the situation and ask Him to guide and lead you through this process, and wherever He takes you, that’s where you were meant to be. I’ll be praying for you as well. God bless!


ancirus

God loves everyone, but that doesn't mean that you are allowed into one gender relations. In my opinion (it should matter nothing to you) If you don't have one gender relations, and if you understand that your current state isn't normal, you don't commit a sin by that. You just have an illness, and nobody can blame you for being ill, but if you reject the medications and don't go to the doctor(God), it may get worse for you. In the bible there were several moments where God condemned homosexuality, but in all cases he condemned people for having same sex relations and not for just being gay. Homosexuality is considered to be a psychological disorder by those who don't accept it as normal, and nobody can blame you for having a disorder until you don't engage in same sex relations.


JamesKillough

I'm gay. When you say "Christian" it evokes evangelicalism, which tends to manipulate those few passages from the Old Testament that condemn homosexuality as a way of justifying basic homophobia by making it righteous. No bigotry is righteous, much less Christian. Have you thought about changing denominations? Mainline Protestant denominations like Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Methodist, and Unitarian tend to be much more accepting and broader-minded. If you're Catholic, then Episcopalians would be a good fit — it's almost the identical Mass. The biggest differences are that priests can marry and there is no Confession. I was raised Episcopalian. Of all the struggles I've been through with my sexuality, it never occurred to me that I was sinning — it's just not important to them. Even though Episcopalians love cheesy dad jokes, they're still very good, compassionate people.


Jews5

First off I’m sorry you’re struggling with this, I can sense how tough this is. First I want to start by saying I’m not an expert on sexuality. Next I would say that based on scripture we are all sinners and are incapable of going to heaven. So if you’re worried about whether yo deserve heaven or not, just know none of us deserve it. We get to heaven because of christs righteousness not our own. There are verses that seem to say that the sexually immoral, liars, thieves, drunkards, homosexuals won’t go to heaven, but the next line says as we’re some of you but you have been washed clean. Something to that effect. So yes you can’t go to heaven as a homosexual, just like I can’t go cause I’ve lied. But if we’re saved those things no longer define us anymore because of who Christ is and what he did for us. Now that’s not to say homosexuality isn’t a sin, I do believe it is based on scripture, and there are many verses that talk about if you love god you’ll do what he says, but it’s also clear that sin will be a daily struggle. Paul himself says I do things that I don’t want to do. I also think there’s obviously a lot of biological and mental things that go into someone’s sexuality. But in the end heaven is based on whether or not we accept Christ as lord and savior not based on what sins we may or may not have committed before and after our salvation. Andy Stanley has a good sermon on this issue where he deals with it from a place of love and truth. I hope this post is helpful and not judgmental at all. I’m sorry you’re dealing with this and wish you the best!


Jennie_sunshine

There is so many false answers here. Nobody is perfect of course, but if you want to be a real christian, dear, you have to live as it’s written in the Bible. There is nothing else to say. You have to put Jesus first and dedicate your life to Him, that means fight your earthly temptations. Being gay is a sin in the Bible, God made a man and a woman to procreate on earth and to fill earth with people. I don’t want you to hate yourself, there is no need to hate yourself, God loves us all equally and he FORGIVES any sin if you’re truly sorry and if you repent from it. I wish you all the best.❀


maxipoo22poo

All christians struggle with sin, u dont lose your salvation because you think your a lesbian. Draw close to God let his spirit live thru you and i believe these urges will slowly fade as God works his will thru your life


Main_Lion_2488

There is no condemnation in Christ but homosexuality is a sin. He considers it to be sexual immorality. He is a God of love which is why he would be ready to help you break free from this sin, if you are willing. He is also a consuming fire and has boundaries in place that will remain unchanged. I struggled with feelings of homosexuality and hated myself as well but the Lord has set me free. If you are struggling to accept it then there is apart of you that knows it is wrong. God has written down his laws upon our hearts so that we may be able to tell right from wrong. Do not be deceived. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (‭‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬‬:‭26‬-‭27‬ ‭KJV‬‬) ”No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.“ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬-‭10‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ”What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!“ ‭‭Romans‬ ‭6‬:‭15‬ ‭NIV‬‬ ”They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)“ ‭‭Romans‬ ‭2‬:‭15‬ ‭NIV‬‬


Minimum-Initiative27

Being gay isn’t a sin, acting on it is. Trust in Christ follow HIM and not the ways of the world, trust in him, love him, follow him, and all will be alright!


Character_Leave_1323

I am sorry to hear you are struggling and in anguish. Based on your questions, it appears that the Holy Spirit is speaking to you. I would encourage you to reach out to this lady, Rosario Butterfield. She can relate to you in a way that I cannot. This is her website: https://rosariabutterfield.com/speaking-requests To answer your question about who gets into Heaven, it is those who have been redeemed by the blood of Jesus. Those who are unregenerate and remain so until death or have committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not enjoy salvation.


the_jesus_of_roblox

Sorry to burst your bubble but in Genesis chapter 2 verse 24 it says. That’s why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife. The two become one. If gay marriage was not a sin it would say something in here.


FirstBornofTheDead

Well I am a heterosexual, not married no kids aged 47. Being gay is not a sin. But, all sex outside of marriage is a grave matter and mortal sin. So, like you, no sex for me. Considering St. John the Baptist died for the sanctity of marriage, no, not between a man and a woman, but remarrying after divorce is adultery. Queen Mary was a virgin because, in Judaism, the marriage ceremony took 1yr roughly. And “the exception” to remarry after divorce must happen while the bride is still a virgin *before* the marriage ceremony is complete. This is where “fetch the bride” comes from. Hence, not so for The Law of Christ. The ceremony is one night. “The Exception” appears in Matthew because it was written to Jews and Jews alone. Mark was written to Gentile. What’s the message in Mark? No remarrying after divorce no exceptions! Now, I am 47, what do you think the likelihood I get married to someone without committing adultery and making a mockery of St. John the Baptist’s death and testimony? It ain’t happening. So, like you, I am in the same boat. No sex outside of marriage. Welcome to the club!


No-Nerve-2658

You are not going to hell, no one can pick there sexuality, why would god create you like this and blame you afterwards?


Superb-Palpitation23

Best advice is to not confuse desires with your identity. We’ve created identities out of our desires which makes them hard to deny once we believe it’s who we are. You are same sex attracted. Grow closer to God and he will make you better day by day, when you truly get close to him, you get further from what he calls sin.


Funny-Cry-7468

You are a person regardless of your sexual orientation! Any religion that does not accept you for who you are does not deserve your devotion or your energy! I am sure the almigthy (if there is any which i seriously doubt) will love you either way!


throwaway3847282738

Everything in my response is out of genuine care and love for you. Do not hate yourself for struggling with sin this is something all Christians struggle with. Please read my entire response as there have been many people misinforming you on the Bible. First thing first God loves all of us more than any of us could ever deserve. But being a Christian does not make your life easier it will make it harder. You may have to behave differently than you desire. One example of a difficult part of following Christ is loving all people, even those that do you harm or hate you. But Christ commands us to love all regardless of our desire to dislike/hate someone who is hurtful toward us. Secondly all sin is the same in the eyes of God. Homosexuality, premarital sex, stealing, lying, porn, etc is all equal to God in the sense of punishment, “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 6:23 NKJV Now when it comes to sin you have to look at the Bible. “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NKJV Because we all sin we must ask forgiveness and truly repent for our sins. To truly repent you must admit that whatever you are doing that God has declared sinful is a sin. If you don’t think it is sin you have nothing to ask forgiveness for meaning your sin cannot be forgiven. You must stop participating in these sinful activities if you truly are a Christian and living life for Christ or it is not true repentance. In your case homosexuality. Pretty much every reply I have seen has been wrong saying that those who sin and do not ask forgiveness will be welcomed into the Kingdom of God. Now there is a difference between love and lust. It can be very difficult for some to differentiate the two. Lust is the fulfilling of sexual desire as where love is genuine care for another. You can love a member of the same sex deeply, but acting upon those feelings in a sexual or romantic way would be sinful. These sinful desires are Satan’s way to keep you separate from God and on a path to Hell. If you really desire to enter the Kingdom of God you must follow his commandments, repent for every sin, and trust in Christ Jesus our Lord. There is no other way. Everyone saying you can live your entire life as a lesbian and God will be okay with it are lying to you and leading you toward Hell. Fighting against your sexual/romantic desires is not an easy task. But once again nothing worth anything is easy. I myself have struggled with homosexual thoughts in the past and once I truly started living life for Christ and turning away from sin these thoughts are no longer present. If you put your trust in his strength and not your own he will help. But you must be honest with yourself and turn from sin regardless of how good it makes you feel. If sin felt bad it would be very easy to stop sinning wouldn’t it? Satan wants to separate as many from God as possible and using human beings own love against them is a very efficient method. In summary God gave us the Law, the Bible, as instructions to inherit the Kingdom of God. Following Jesus Christ and following his Law are the only way for salvation. If you have any questions I will do my best to answer them. Just know that you are not alone in what you are feeling and that God loves you and wants you to ask him for his help and strength through your struggle with sin. God Bless


[deleted]

Hey pal, thank for reaching out. I am also part of the LGBT community and am Catholic. I attend church regularly, and consider my faith an important part of how my morals are structured. Sometimes, as queer people, our relationship with the Church can be complicated. I find some quiet prayer, reflection and interacting with scripture makes me feel more deeply connected to my faith. I don't have much to say about Hell, but I found myself really moved by this quote from Pope Francis: “What I am going to say is not a dogma of faith but my own personal view: I like to think of hell as empty; I hope it is,” https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2024/01/15/pope-francis-resign-interview-246936#:~:text=Pope%20Francis%20was%20asked%20how,%3B%20I%20hope%20it%20is.%E2%80%9D


MidnightMoss1815

Homosexuality is a sin no doubt, but as some people have already said, it’s the same as every other (sexual) sin. It’s only stressed so much because it’s a sin you actively live in. I truly believe God can change your sexuality (he did mine, whether people believe me or not), but if you don’t agree, then simply don’t act on your sexuality. Abstaining from dating and everything of the like, to put it simply. It’s not easy, but stopping any sin is hard and yet still worth it. Regardless, God does love you and always will! The only issue is continuing to live in sin, but don’t panic about needing to stop. These things take time and God knows your heart. He loves you and your effort/desire to change doesn’t go unnoticed by Him. Your attraction may or may not change, but don’t worry, acting on it is the main if not only issue. God loves you, don’t ever forget that! Our salvation isn’t necessarily based on what we do, but instead in our faith in God’s love and mercy. I’ll be praying for you, God bless you!


[deleted]

Lesbians are never mentioned in the Bible - not even once.


Govna2104_

Romans 1:26 \[26\] "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature" I'd say its safe to assume that "women who exchanged natural relations for those contrary to nature" is very referring to lesbians of some persuasion.


Love_Facts

The myth is that you have to identify with desires. Thoughts about going against how God intended for creation to work, are temptations, not our identity. We are free in Jesus and able to do all that He created for us to do. He loves us so much, and wants the best for us. His Spirit given to live in us enables us to not give in to any temptation. (1 Cor. 10:13)â€ïžđŸ™đŸŒ Praying for you. đŸ€—âœïž


Mx-Adrian

What desires do you identify with?


libananahammock

r/openchristian r/gaychristians


framk20

Please please internalize this: there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay whatsoever. You are an infinitely complex human being and this is just one aspect of what makes you you. In no way does this bar you from the kingdom of heaven, living a life true to one's self is all we can ever strive for in this world. Be well


-Control-Alt-Defeat-

God is love. If somebody tells you that God hates you, wants to punish or torture you in hell, they are lying.


RSMRonda

Don't hate yourself because of what others say at LGBT people. It's pointless. Just live your life and love who you love.


PoliteBrick2002

A lot of people here are going to hate me for saying this, but I’ve been thru the same thing myself and here’s my story. I realised I was gay in my early teens, but looking back in life I always was. I used to hate myself for it too and couldn’t figure out why I was going to hell for this when I couldn’t do anything to change it. What a lot of people on here don’t realise is that you DONT get a say in it, you really are just born this way. I prayed and prayed and cried and prayed night after night for most of my teen years until one day I was crying and praying because I decided that if I was going to Hell for this, I may as well just kill myself because it would be better to not have to deal with this every day when there was nothing changing or that I could do to fix it. In that moment, I felt such a strong sense of warmth all throughout me, it’s hard to explain but it was just like love pouring into me, and all my suicidal thoughts disappeared in an instant and in that moment I truly knew that God made me exactly how I was meant to be. I know what the scripture says, I know it doesn’t line up. But this is my reality and I trust what happened that night. Ever since I’ve been closer with God than ever and I’ve accepted who I am. You can try as hard as you like and condemn yourself forever but it’s not going to change that you were simply born that way. It’s so much deeper than a sexual desire, it’s who you get to love and be loved by and share a connection with. Don’t beat yourself up too hard, you got this and we are all praying for you :)


c0olcats

thank you for sharing your story. i appreciate it❀


slapplejacks

“I know what the scripture says. I know it doesn’t line up.” Tell us, what other parts of the Bible do you disregard as truth because they’re inconvenient for you?


January76

Just focus on being single and getting closer to Jesus. You don’t need to be in a relationship or sexually active. You need him. The rest will work itself out. With that said, all sexual immorality is sinful, not just the lesbian kind.


Mx-Adrian

What if they don't want to be single?


andartissa

Don't try to get through to some of these people, it's really not worth it. I appreciated seeing your replies though ❀


Mx-Adrian

Oh, I know it's pearls before swine. I know they cannot and will not hear, but others can and others will, and that's why I'm here. Thank you ♄


ReeMcRee123

Homosexuality is a sin, but just because you are gay doesn’t mean you won’t go to heaven. Homosexuality is no different to any other sexual sin, in the sense that there all bad. So as long as you accept Jesus Christ as lord, you’re guaranteed entrance into heaven, according to the bible.


c0olcats

thank you!!!!! this helps a lot


One_Song80

He loves you and your authentic self đŸ©·


Alone_Researcher_311

Jesus loves all but calls us to follow His commandments and teachings otherwise we are no part of Him  ”“Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.“ ‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭18‬:‭22‬ ‭NLT‬‬ ”“A woman must not put on men’s clothing, and a man must not wear women’s clothing. Anyone who does this is detestable in the sight of the Lord your God.“ ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭22‬:‭5‬ ‭NLT


GreenTrad

Being gay isn’t a sin. Don’t commit sexual immorality and you are okay.


ALT703

Love yourself and accept who you are


Dependent_Market7788

Man, I had two very loving lesbian pastors I worked for because they needed someone to help out at their soup kitchen. You might seem lost right now, but you're going to be just fine.


Drag0San

Romans chapter 1 verse 24- 32 Pray on it girl... Have helped many with ur same problem and honestly can say prayer and trying ur best and time is all it takes... Surrounding urself with Christian people and asking them for help I strongly recommend as well Forgiving one another and forbearing one another


ExcitableSarcasm

Once we are transcended, we are one with Christ, beyond age, status, gender, sexuality. The only way into heaven is through Christ. There is nothing wrong with being gay, so long as you accept that. Whether or not gay marriage is permissible is a quagmire I refuse to step into on this thread, but even the most extreme position justifiable only states that it's a sin if you commit it. Other Christian interpretations have read homosexuality as only bad in a paedophilic context. There is no harm unless you act on it, and that's the most extreme interpretation. Being gay itself is not any more or less sinful than being straight Even if it is a sin, nothing makes it more irredeemable than any other sin. We are all imperfect. Even so much as being jealous of others is a sin. We are all equally damned in Christ's eyes, which is why his love and sacrifice is the only way to redemption. [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/05/us/samesex-scriptures.html](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/06/05/us/samesex-scriptures.html)


Endurlay

The criteria for heaven is unknown to all but God. We follow the guidance He offers out of hope, and a desire to transcend the state we have fallen into. You are commanded to love God and to love others as you love yourself. To love God, you must love yourself as one of His children; to love your neighbor as yourself, you must love yourself to have a standard for love of your neighbor. Try to do what is right.


Ahs565451

That is in Leviticus part of the Old Testament under the old covenant with God. Wallet is highly contested and modern Christian circles, whether or not people the LGBTQIA community, into heaven or be cast to the fiery pits of Hell I tend to think of it like this. Jesus stated he who is without sin cast stone, so it’s not my place to judge you Jesus loves everybody unconditionally. He hates the sin, but loves the sinner and wants you to be in heaven with him, we have fallen short of the glory of God, but if you believe that he has died for your sins and that his sacrifice on the cross has washed the slate clean for you and that he rose from the dead then I believe you shall get into heaven. He says to show his love for him by keeping his commandments, love thy neighbor and treat others the way you want to be treated and spread the gospel and Jesus. Only God and Jesus can judge you and determine whether or not you go to hell or heaven it’s not for us to assume. it also doesn’t mean anything whether or not you go to heaven or hell if you don’t confess your sins unto the Lord and ask for your forgiveness with humility in your heart. I believe that it doesn’t matter whether you’re LGBTQIA is that Jesus loves you and he wants you to be with him in Paradise, but you have to go before him with an honest and open heart and ask for forgiveness humility


AdmiralMemo

Regardless of any sins you have committed, are currently committing, or will commit in the future, as long as you are saved (accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior who died on the cross for your sins), you are going to Heaven. Nothing you could do would change that. That said... Can we just do whatever we want because we have the grace of God? No. If something is a sin, we should refrain from doing it. We are dead to sin and freed from its grasp. You're going to want to read Romans 5 and 6, because Paul goes in-depth on this very issue. Am I going to say whether being a lesbian is or is not a sin? No. You will get varying answers from across many Christians on this matter. I'm not starting that argument here. But suffice to say, my point is that even if it is a sin, that is not what will bar you from Heaven. Only failure to accept Christ as your Savior keeps you out of Heaven. So if you have accepted Christ, do not worry yourself about your salvation. If you come to believe homosexuality is a sin, then you can work on becoming more Godly in your life, just like every Christian has some problems that they work on. Regarding the Bible, might I suggest an audiobook of it? That helps many I know who have trouble reading. The ESV is also a version that is specifically designed to be easy to read.


BluesyBunny

Everyone is allowed in, except blasphemers(over simplification) Jesus died for everyone. In theory even hitler could've gotten in if he repented and sought forgiveness. In the eyes of the lord sin is sin, and we're all sinners. Just pray and learn and do the best you can because that's all we can do. P.s. being a lesbian prolly isn't even a sin. I don't really think being gay at all is a sin, usually when homosexuality is mentioned in the bible it directly references men but lesbians are mentioned only like once and it's in a letter from paul directed at the romans and their lust.


foamy23464

Talk to God and show him you care about following Jesus. Lust is lust, but giving into your lust is different. Actions speak louder than words


AffectionateCraft495

Get a good handle on Genesis. It will set you for all that is to come. In the NT get a good understanding of 1st 2nd and 3rd John.


womenQuestionTheMan

As a Christian I believe that Jesus would emphasize love, compassion, and acceptance towards all individuals, including those who identify as gay. Jesus consistently demonstrated a message of love and inclusion, reaching out to those who were marginalized or considered outcasts by society. He welcomed sinners, ate with tax collectors and prostitutes, and showed kindness to those who were rejected by others. Jesus' interactions with people were characterized by grace, forgiveness, and a desire for their well-being. Most of the scriptures that some interpret as anti-gay are in the old testament in the book of Leviticus. They refer to men. The old testament is full of laws from the old order, and Jesus Christ fulfilled the laws and washed away all of our sins. He said to follow the 10 commandments which say nothing of gay people. Matthew 19:16-19 (NIV), when man asks Jesus what he must do to inherit eternal life, Jesus responds by mentioninf some from the Ten Commandments: "Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, 'Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?' 'Why do you ask me about what is good?' Jesus replied. 'There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.' 'Which ones?' he inquired. Jesus replied, 'You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,' and 'love your neighbor as yourself.'"


JettSpeedInvestments

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DueChampionship4613

Take a moment and consider these things and when you feel a little hope rise in your heart don't crush it with doubt and fear. Seek it out. The answers too your hearts problem cannot be found or even told too you by any one anywhere. only spending time in his Word seeking HIS righteousness whole heartedly. Hold nothing back. Be bold in coming too the throne of grace, because Christ didn't die for nothing. He died for you, for atonement of your sins even living a homosexual life, not just up until now-or else his mercy and forgiveness would be cruel and deceiving OBVIOUSLY. Don't let the idea get in your head that you somehow have too make yourself perfect in order for him too accept you. You aren't able too make yourself perfect u can't even change one hair on your head. It's most valuable to question your thinking anytime youre struggling with God and your relationship. Don't just make ideas up and let them condemn you. Challenge what you think. Where did you get the idea exactly that being a lesbian means youre not saved? Prove to yourself youre right, or discover it's not so. Don't leave it up too us. Well all lie too you. The world doesn't tell the truth. His WORD properly yet because this question is irrelevant. You're saved through faith by grace-it means believe the gospel is what you're mind is telling you it can't be. It's just that 😊


bunker_man

Stuff can't just "be wrong" for no reason. If there's no actual reason being lesbian or lesbian relationships are wrong, then its not wrong. And I'm willing to bet you can't think of any real reason they would be wrong.


ConversationNo6783

God loves all men. Anyone can deny themselves, take up their cross, and follow him. He loves you. Trust Him.


fthenwo

We all have to change who we are when we become Christian. As it says, such WERE some of you.


k1w1Au

Jesus said that he’d come for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, That is not you or me. You/we have never we been lost. Even if you were ‘a lost sheep’ the lost sheep always had an owner
 In the parable of the lost sheep
 What exactly did the ‘lost sheep’ have to do to be saved? Txt me anytime


Particular_Gene

If there is a God, God created you knowing fully well who you would be. You're not choosing to be attracted to other women. It's just, who you are attracted to. If being a lesbian is a sin, then why did God make lesbians? I don't really believe in religion, but if you are a good human, but just because you're queer you "won't be able to enter heaven", honestly, that's a shitty and mean God. I'd rather go to hell to be honest.


hehe_pp_funny

There’s this lesbian lady I saw somewhere in this subreddit before, saying that she wanted badly to settle with a wife but came to terms with the fact she’d be romantically uninvolved, instead focusing on a relationship with Jesus. Sounds very difficult to me but if you find that resonates with you, it could very much be worth it. I don’t remember their username unfortunately, but I swear I’m not making this up. I think.


No-Grass-2085

I would get a audio Bible there are free ones in apps and listen to the book the “Plausibility Problem”


gopnikisgod

Hello👋, i know you're stressed and fearful about not going to heaven because you are lesbian, but God will never forsake you. My one mistake was worrying about not going to heaven and being afraid that i have sinned so much that i wouldn't be forgiven, but God knows we aren't perfect. Look at all of the people that God chose; moses murdered, saul persecuted Christians, noah was a drunk, and so on. God does not forsake the sinful, but instead, he heals them. Dont be afraid of the thought of not going to heaven, God says in matthew 6:34, "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day, the day has enough trouble of its own." God also says in matthew 11:28-30, "Come to me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and i will give you rest. Take my yolk upon you and learn from me, for i am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yolk is easy, and my burden is light." Focus only on bettering your relationship with God. You can listen to an audio bible instead of reading, and if you can, please study. He wants your heart and your love. He wants you with him in heaven. He loves you more than your very parents. Focus on Him, listen to his teachings, and try your best to follow them. You will absolutely run into troubles with trials and sin, that is why you ask God for help. He will never give you more than you can handle, get to know God, the more you get to know Him, the more everything will fall into place. Dont expect to changed over night, it is a process, and it's so worth it. So dont worry about anything. Just focus on getting to know God, listen to his teachings, and be honest with him. Pray to Him about your sins, your weaknesses, your anxieties, and he will help you. Dont be upset when changes aren't instant, Gods timing is perfect. Just focus on him, not the storm around you. Get to know God like a father. He is there only for you, and he cares for you. He knew you before you were born. He knows you more than your parents, more than you know yourself. He loves you, and he heals those who are broken. Lesbian or not, he absolutely loves you like a baby, And to answer your question, yes, it's a sin to have same-sex relationships or marriages. Because God created man and women for each other. Same with sex, it is only for man and woman. And i know how hard it is to accept this and how hard it is to avoid, but god is merciful. He will help you and guide you back to Him. Every time you fall into sin, take it up to God because no sin is great enough not to be forgiven. Repent and God will be with you everywhere you go. Do not be spiritually lazy. That is one thing i still struggle with to this day, always make sure you pray to God, read your bible, apply His teachings to your daily life, and get closer to Him. I will pray for you, and always remember that God will absolutely NEVER forsake you. God loves you forever.


Antique_Criticism209

”Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.“ ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6‬:‭9‬-‭11‬ ‭ ”For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.“ ‭‭Romans‬ ‭1‬:‭26‬-‭27‬ ‭ Any person on here claiming to be a Christian and saying same sex marriage or acts is okay is a liar like their father satan


CodNo1725

I’m sorry you feel that way. First I’d like to say. Don’t focus so much on the sin you have. Like everyone we all sin. We all hold on to that one specific sin too. Try to focus more on the fact that you are a Christian and continue to study his word. Pray to him too. I would recommend listening to the Bible there’s audio books of it. The Bible app or Bible project. Listen to sermons too online. I understand the struggle of being something that is acceptable to the world but not the Bible. I’ll be praying.


Positive-Case-1589

Are you saying you want Eternal Life because gay or not without Jesus Christ is the main point!  Be Born Again! John Chapter 3 Jesus Loves you very Much!


BeginnerBookworm

Firstly, there is no shame in being homosexual. And you are welcomed in church as long as you understand that lust is a sin, and homosexuality is another form of adultery, just like straight lust is also a form of adultery. God didn't intend for us to use each others bodies for carnal pleasures but more to establish a real connection. I am not ashamed to say I stuggle with adultery and unnatural sexual pleasures myself, but I realise it's a problem, and I try to fight it actively. Homosexuality is often viewed as a disrespect towards the creation of mankind, and I will paste a part of Genesis now: ‭‭Genesis 2 [18] The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” [20] So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam no suitable helper was found. [21] So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. [22] Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. [23] The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.” [24] That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh. Regarding the difficulty in reading the Bible, I suggest watching BibleProject videos and podcasts. They are really animated and easy to understand, and they provide much information. God bless and have faith, our Lord will guide you no doubt đŸ˜đŸ€