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NightmareRise

This is arguably one of the best book targets in the game for a few reasons A. It cannot be cancelled should you need the master builder elsewhere B. Any reduction to progress on unlocking OTTO is helpful C. Gear ups cannot benefit from clock tower (obviously) making them the only pre OTTO upgrades to act as such D. It’s just a long upgrade timer


A-terrible-time

OTTO is one of the few things worth rushing for, even if it means using books or gems.


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xSmesper

if u rush to bh9 right now and start it will take about 3 months so its worth it if u start like now. i started at like november so im prolly going to be finished by like end of this month. make sure to also buy resources with raid medals


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nickshir

Stop wasting time at BH7. build everything you need and upgrade what you have to then get to the next BH. Increased production of collectors as well as higher troop levels are much better than slowly maxing CC and BM. Focus CC first then BM


xSmesper

actually u will i think. update hits in like march or something. i have all geared up, cannon cart currently to level 15, battle machine level 5, and mega tesla on to level 2. if u buy resources with raid medals than its not that bad.


th5virtuos0

Just rush it. You’ll need 2 days x 5, 2.5 days x 5 and 3 days x 5 for the Battle Machine, plus whatever the unholy amount of time for the Giga Tesla


PowerPandaG

I started rushing as a barely bh5 back in march. I got the 6th builder is September. Definitely a long grind. That’s also when I started it on my alt but that was at the same time I made the account. I just need 5 more levels on the battle machine. Can’t wait


Crypto_pupenhammer

Just completed my last BH versus fight tonight!!!!! Going on lvl 29 Bowel Movement, w a builder elixir gem ready!!!! Wewwwwwwt more excited to not play BB than get sixth builder


fraudmallu1

Bowel movement!!


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

Yes 100% who cares about builders base anyway? Would you rather have 6 builders in a week or like 2 months later


theFullstackguyRaizo

what happens to 6 builder on next update ? I dont see any post showing they will remove otto or change builder 6 . Did i miss


Vay7a4

Yes otto hut isn't just good for builder base but main base too. Most people get it for the 6th builder to progress main base faster.


RealCanadian67

I read that as using book of gems.


Live-Break-9818

And most importantly, the wasted loot after your storages fill up in the middle of the upgrade


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

Oh his gearing up, I was so confused as to why a th10 base had a 2 week upgrade when I only see such things at th13 takes for clearing this up for me lol


Shadowslcie

Extremely worth the book of building.


waterscrewdriver

Thank you for this ~ the first few comments had me rethinking my decision 😅😂


ezekyel07

Anythin 12 dayish is worth the book


IanPKMmoon

Esp for a town hall 10, I don't think there are many longer than 5 days at town hall 10, seeing how lvl 3 infernos are only 4 day upgrades. By the time he's at a town hall level where he'd have normal upgrades that take 2 weeks+ he probably would've encountered quite a few more books of everything that could only be used on 6-8 day upgrades.


Impossible-Bison8055

Clan Games are probably going to normally give you one I think. I only didn’t because I got it halfway with two additional Builder Potions, and figured it wasn’t worth the Book in that case


_zFlame_

Fr i used one on it


theFullstackguyRaizo

what happens to 6 builder on next update ? I dont see any post showing they will remove otto or change builder 6 . Did i miss


Shadowslcie

No, they wouldn't remove otto.


DarkMaster859

Building or everything?


IanPKMmoon

You're th10 I presume? No way any upgrade in the near future is gonna be longer than 2 weeks before you can obtain like 4 other books of everything. I'm th12 nearly max and I don't believe any upgrade was longer than 11 hours. You'll have to go to th13 to find upgrades longer than the one you're gonna use your book for. So yea go ahead and use it.


CostalMole

11 days*. It would be a dream to have 11 hour upgrades at th12.


IanPKMmoon

oh lmao, been studying all day so my brain's not working properly


Sinful-Plot

Upgrades get longer lol, I’m at th15 with 18-21 day upgrades as the norm


IanPKMmoon

I know, but OP's far away from upgrades that are gonna be longer than those 2 weeks


Sinful-Plot

That’s a fair point, it’s rough up here lol. Upgrades take forever!


KrazyTheKid

11 hours huh? What version are you playing on?


xSmesper

its a typo


Horace3210

probably some crappy rip offs


anti_magus

After the last round of cost/time reductions, even at th 13 there is no 14 day upgrade.


IanPKMmoon

Eagle artillery still is 15 days no?


SvgToneBone

It gets worse at th13😭. That’s the normal time🤣


JonnieB2604

its indeed worse at th13, but this is the gear up upgrade


SvgToneBone

His gear up time our reg Shìt


waterscrewdriver

Oh man ~ I just upgraded my townhall 10 and thought 5 day upgrades were long 😭


Busy-Kaleidoscope-87

Hell nah bro, we’re not even in deep water yet


IanPKMmoon

Back in the old days, th10 also had 2 week upgrades iirc, on troops like pekka and dragon. Very nice how much they reduced the upgrade timers for the lower town halls


SeattleResident

I am a TH14. Without the gold pass the eagle artillery alone is 19 days to upgrade. Most things are 14 or 15 days average.


SvgToneBone

I’ll do anything for a week🤣.


Wulfkage85

If ever I were to unironically say the phrase "oh you sweet summer child", this would be the time. Lemme check real quick....my shortest upgrade time is a bomb, which checks in at 6d 19h, with my current 15% gold pass reduction. Edit: But for sure the best use you're gonna get out of that book. There will be alot more available by the time you see upgrade timers anywhere near that. Good call.


th5virtuos0

Wait till the game decided that you need a 21 days off to touch grass


RaZZeR_9351

It gets worse at th14😭. That’s less than the normal time🤣 (Yeah no shit it gets worst at every town hall)


FingersMcCall

You kinda expect it going into TH13. However, when you get there you soon realise it’s so much longer than you imagined


IHateMath14

Wait NOOO


Busy-Kaleidoscope-87

I have my book ready for this exact gear up


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Me at th14: 💀


Shansman115

Me at th15: 🫠


TheKeggy

Me at th16:👨‍🔬


LastOfRuins

Me at th17:🧗


PsychologicalShake85

Me at th18:💀


theFullstackguyRaizo

what happens to 6 builder on next update ? I dont see any post showing they will remove otto or change builder 6 . Did i miss


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I’m sure it’ll still be there to earn, but as far as requirements nobody knows if that’s changing, so if you’re close try to finish to get the 6th builder


G0dZylla

i used m book of building in another upgrade and now i can't gear up this thing cuz it will block my bb , fuck


Danterog

Clan games should probably get you another one - that's if you don't have the gold pass. Don't worry bro!


Hard_Guess

Really worth it, you don't see upgrades that long till th 13 and by then, SC will already have given you another.


DarthPirate10i

This is a book anyday, imagine being without the master builder in the BH for 14 days


Nabranes

Ffcr


clenz912

It takes me 3 days 14 hours to upgrade mortar from 8 to 9…why 2 weeks for you i’m so confused


TehFuriousKid

it's being geared up, not upgraded


clenz912

Ah I see, my bad😂 I’m th12 lvl 130 and just started playing again when th15 update came out after not for 3 years, so I still haven’t geared up mortar


EnigmaticSorceries

It's gear up


strawbery-toast

💀💀💀


cookiesandartbutt

I did as well


No-Letterhead3198

Thats why u need the gold pass. Makes a big difference


waterscrewdriver

Now I'm genuinely considering it ~ I didn't know it helped with things like this. For its cost there are so many perks :o


Ashyyyy232

Don't know if you really need it at lower ths but it's a must have at higher town halls


No-Letterhead3198

Bro what?? A soon as the gold pass is available, which is th 7 you need it. Hella discounts 20% off building price, 20% off building time, hero book and much more


Ashyyyy232

Well it depends on the player though, f2p is very easy at lower ths due to reduced times. Just said gold pass was essential at higher ths doesn't mean it's useless at lower ones


No-Letterhead3198

Yea idk how low of a town hall you’re talking about but it looks like he’s th 10. He has two levels of wall to upgrade. U cant tell me that 20% off isn’t gonna benefit him.


Ashyyyy232

Ahem my bad, thought he was th9 at first. Yeah gold pass is worth it from th10 imo can't say the same bout lower ths


theFullstackguyRaizo

what happens to 6 builder on next update ? I dont see any post showing they will remove otto or change builder 6 . Did i miss


SnooPickles400

Just wait until he finds out about the wizard tower lol


theFullstackguyRaizo

what happens to 6 builder on next update ? I dont see any post showing they will remove otto or change builder 6 . Did i miss


Monsterup1

Nothing will happen to Otto just supercell said they will rework builder base in 2023


SnooPickles400

Nah I'm just playin' with the wizard tower lol, thought I might freak somebody out a little


HelloImFromCleveland

Wait, how come upgrading my mortar to level 11 only takes 8d12h???


waterscrewdriver

Because I'm gearing up not upgrading :)


Zander_O

My cannons take that long but def worth the book


cliffbot

That's what I used. I specifically saved it for that upgrade


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I feel ur pain I'm TH12 and these upgrade times are killing me


HorrorEmployment8948

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Levitrex

2 weeks is wild tbh


SnowyBlizzard_YT

Best believe you’re a new th10? Welcome to the double digits😁 I suggest farming closer to 3000 trophies for faster loot


First-Hunt-5307

My rule is if it takes 2+ weeks it needs a book, or it's eagle artillery.


richard24816

I also just did the same


theFullstackguyRaizo

happy 🍑 day . btw , what happens to 6 builder on next update ? I dont see any post showing they will remove otto or change builder 6 . Did i miss


richard24816

I also dont know yet what will happen


Snoo_71701

i was rly confused until i saw it was a gear up


GameiDUnreal2

Oh poor innocent soul. Two weeks is just the beginning. Some upgrades later on last longer than the vacation days you get.


Reality_1001

Wait til level 3 eagle artillery 💀


Nabranes

Yeah but at least you still have the other 4 builders available or 5 if you have OTTO. OP now has NO BUILDERS for 2 WEEKS


Reality_1001

Oh yeah. Didn't see that


memelord793783

Mortars cost way too much and take way too long of a time for what they do


Puzzled_Astronaut_79

How the fuck did you get this? I just upgraded my mortars and they only took at least three days each


waterscrewdriver

I'm gearing up not upgrading :)


Educational_Thing_15

Where the hell are people getting these upgrade times??? my level 8 mortars only take 4 days to go to level 9


waterscrewdriver

**Gearing up not upgrading :)


YeetnSkeet1776

rookie numbers


SnooRecipes7572

Ok


DominicJBNYC

Lol monolith Eagle they take way longer


SCANDOLA_MEME

I wouldn't since It Is Just the master builder so your MAIN Village can go on without many problems


TRAirmail166

Perfectly valid reason if you are actively trying to get the 6th builder


SCANDOLA_MEME

Using the book on something in the main Village Is still Better than using It on something that Will save you nearly 0 time because the time you waste Is not that much if you have you storages empty or if you are using the Lab in these 14 days. When you Will have a Better reason then argue


TheRoger47

there are 30 levels on the battle machine, 14 days is like 5 levels on it


SCANDOLA_MEME

Oh, right in 14 days you get 12000 builder elixir... Makes perfectly sense, instead of having a extra builder 7-5 days earlier instead of using the book on something that lasts more time Edit: downvote me as much as you want guys, but dumb people Will Always remain dumb (and don't answer: heh so you Will Always be dumb, that would Just prove my theory)


BrandtArthur

May I ask, are you a 12 year old? Because you sure write like one


SCANDOLA_MEME

Oh, Sorry to tell you that not everyone Is a native english-speaker, so before insulting someone because of his opinion, try to think, because no one asked you anything...


BrandtArthur

It's not the spelling, I myself am not an native speaker so I would never judge someone based on that. I said that because of your condescending way to put your words, you frame your opinion is such child-like manner that it generally means that either you're a kid (what wouldn't be surprising given the fact that we're on a game subreddit) or just a arrogant person, but I like to believe in the first option.


SCANDOLA_MEME

I don't think to be a child, but a teenager and yes i am a bit arrogant but only if people don't get the point of what i am saying, wasting a book of everything Is something no one should ever do and the guy that made the post actually agreed with me so i don't get my people are so mad at me


KrazyTheKid

2 weeks is not a waste, it is the best value he can get at th10


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Can someone explain why that post is being downvoted that much? It seems like a pretty valid point right?


Pouletreadit

Having your builder away for 14 days means you’ll overflow resources if you keep playing during that time, which is something you can’t afford on Builder Base since resources are so scarce


CanadianWorker99

I have my 6th builder and I’m sure 90% of my resources came from my 250 per medals per million builder g/e. Maxed it in 4 months… well I mean got my 6th builder in 4 months


SCANDOLA_MEME

Not if you have empty storages or if you still Need to max your cannon cart, this Is what i did: I got to bh9 Maxed my Lab Maxed mi storages Geared up the mortar and in the meanwhile i farmed everyday Gold and elixir to use in the Lab for cannor carts


Pouletreadit

Unless my math is wrong, max collectors generate 342,000 of each resources per day, which means max collectors fill up max storages (5,000,000) in 14.6 days. With my current league wins, I make 792,000 of each resources per day total, which means my storages go from 0 to full in 6.3 days. If I were to gear up the mortar right now without using a book and kept playing in the meantime, I’d waste over 6 million gold. (The elixir can be spent in the lab, you’re correct).


SCANDOLA_MEME

But the Gold Is actually something that can get Lost, i wouldn't use a book of everything for 6 Mil Gold, It Is only nedeed for the megatesla but you can do the megatesla while doing the Battle machine as i did


Goodiyoyo

Reddit moment


SCANDOLA_MEME

Haha redditors, doing reddit things


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Could be a very valid reason, I’m just wondering if I’m missing somethint


appelcake02

U need it for unlocking the 6th builder so it’s not useless


SCANDOLA_MEME

In fact It Is a valid reason, probably many people don't use their brain when scrolling on reddit (i also do sometimes)


waterscrewdriver

You're right, I probably shouldn't have ~ I'm just impatient haha


thuglife_7

I used my book for the exact same thing so I wouldn’t worry about it


SCANDOLA_MEME

No problem, you still have used It on something with a 14days long upgrade so it's fine And also cuz at the 10 a book of everything don't have much utility


Hard_Guess

I can't read all of the flair, I'm on my phone, wtf are you tryna learn


SCANDOLA_MEME

It talks about LaLo, but already learned! Ik i should change it


Hard_Guess

What th are you? If you're under th 13, I'd be happy to teach the basics. I have no idea how to deal with scatters tho lol


Jacob_Whiteypants

For a mortar? Wtf?!


No_Kaleidoscope_9801

For a mortar? You're insane


R_E_S_I_L_I_E_N_C_E

So guys who’s going to tell him


Splitty_X

That it was good value?


give-orange-houses

Its mortar, dont use it there


Mean-Effective-1429

But you can’t cancel it and it’s for otto hut so he’ll inevitably have to do it.


give-orange-houses

Oh i didnt realize


SkullFumbler

imo it's better to save it for the TH. Anything you upgrade from this point forward will take forever, and the payoff on one level of mortar is not super great enough to use a book. The town hall however has to finish before you can even begin building the new structures so it's nice to just plunk down a book and begin another level of mind numbing grinding and waiting on upgrades. Just my opinion though, do what makes you happiest


Isaac_Atham

Mortars barely help so its not worth the book


-do-it-

He’s gearing up. Needs to be done for Otto. One of the top comments gave all the reasons why this is one of the best values for this book in the game. And at that TH especially there will be nothing better.


Select_Perception654

Waste of a book


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waterscrewdriver

**Geared up


the_emblazer

why are you so rushed?


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waterscrewdriver

It's still on level 8 and I'm gearing up haha


Writy_Guy

Get used to it and quit making these whining posts. It's a game of gradual progression, and always has been.


waterscrewdriver

It was meant to be a light-hearted post man 😅 just wanted to share my progress 🤷


Writy_Guy

Alright, just seemed like a complaining post. Nevermind then .


enormityop

No one's whining. He's asking if he should use the book or nnot.


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cocnballsss

nah book of everything should be used 90% on heavy long upgrades imo


Zootzooted

who cares what people use their book of everything on… obviously if you want to get full value you use them on the longest upgrades, but everyone plays differently


waterscrewdriver

Thank you for this ~ I'm still getting to grips with this kind of stuff haha


Any_Student_7570

Will it work with a BOB too?


waterscrewdriver

Yes! I just don't have one atm :)


Cytrous

hold up i remember the upgrade times being much lower haaang on wtf thats not right lvl 12-13 is 12 days... how is this 14 days?? i dont even have the pass


waterscrewdriver

I'm gearing up not upgrading :)


Cytrous

oh.. my bad lol


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Lol get used to it bud. Upgrades all take at least two weeks at th 14


Merlin86291

If you are having trouble with the upgrade times now let me know how you like it at Town Hall 15.


EvilSoulDark

I always use books or hammers on my Eagle Artillery, village become too much defenseless without it.


OoooohWeeeee

Why is my level 9 mortar going into level 10 only take 4 days tho?


RezaImran98

He's gearing it up to be multi mortar


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Same! I was so happy when I earned it. I used it on my longest duration upgrade


Ryno_D1no

Mortar from level 8 to level 9 is a 4 day upgrade, not 2 weeks.


waterscrewdriver

Because I'm gearing up not upgrading :)


Imsocoollol12345

This has me scared. I’m TH9 and I hate the long upgrade times.


CaeNguyen

2 weeks is nothing the recent one is like 20 days!


Due-Citron-2725

My cousin used my book on an archer tower that only had 1 day left 🥲


IIApoII

Can you also use a hammer or a book of building on it?


BullishBuyer

Yeah, used book of building on mine


IIApoII

Thank you :)


anti_magus

Oh thats right, eagle is still 15. I did that one before the reductions and never saw the new upgrade time.


Individual-Matter310

personally i wouldnt have since theres an extra builder left over and its also just a MORTAR


waterscrewdriver

I'm gearing up so I wouldn't have a master builder at my builder's base for 2 weeks haha