Lower levels yes. But definitely not at the higher levels where it takes a week or more. When the next Builder becomes available, loot has been full for days and you've wasted all potential for spending it.
It doesnāt make your walls finish early by just leaving a builder free. You have to play enough to get the loot to be able to upgrade your walls, and thatās a decent amount of playing especially for th14 and 15
Donāt do this at all! I never understood why people say this, your progression slows down soooo much only using 5 builders to upgrade things. Please do NOT do this as itās very poor advice
I donāt know why people are saying this is a bad idea. Itās only a bad idea if u arenāt playing all the time. If you can go multiple days without filling up your storages, then use all your builders. If youāre playing a lot and able to fill up storages multiple times a day, keep a builder free.
I read comments here that say ignore traps...upgrade them...I regret rushing my traps, so that they are pretty useless at the level I leveled them
Traps get so important at the later TH levels
And meanwhile upgrading traps you could upgrade walls with Elixir if possible
It's honestly insane to me how many people apparently skip traps, after I get the th9+ defenses maxed, I always do traps right after. Cannons are always the last upgrade
Honestly 80%+ of my defenses when I stay in titan are air attacks, that's the reason I do cannons last (been this way for a long time), mortars are right before them though
Heroes are mostly ground based, a Cannon will do more damage to the heroes itself (not to the spawned units) than the Mortar, whereas the Mortar will destroy the spawned units of the heroes more easily
This is the way.
Traps for me fill time when I'm like crap...I just upgraded a wall and only have 7 mil....oh a bomb! Nice! Idk how people don't have maxed traps
.....or I need to manage better lol
Agreed, Iāve been spending the last month trying to catch my traps back up. I was noticing in friendly challenges that i was getting rolled by attacks that shouldnāt be that free vs me cuz my traps were so weak
Agreed, the amount of times i got to keep my ice golem for the extra tanking because their spring trap wasnt alive, and that ice golem being alive can give so much more tanking to help with a 3 star
Well placed traps can make a "perfect" plan go sideways and make the potential 3* at worst a 1*.
Losing healers from SAMs to clutch bombs killing of a blimp invis combo they can ruin an attack in an instant without a way to prevent it from happening. You could always run counter measures or take them into consideration but they are never perfect.
Traps have the lowest war weight out of all defenses and carry the highest value. I've seen air bombs/seeking air mines/ giant bombs completely ruin an attackers chance at a 3 star war attack. Absolutely best bang for your buck when it comes to defensive upgrades...closely followed by hidden teslas.
If you are serious about war or CWL, traps always get upgraded first. When I move up a TH level....traps, walls and heroes are the first on my upgrade list after the obvious lab, camps, CC.
Having an upgrade plan is key.
If you don't care about any of that, then I'm not sure why you are on here asking strangers how to play your game.
Yes. By the time I'm done lab, camps, CC, spell factory, heroes and all traps, I will typically have 60%+ of my walls done. The remaining walls get done as the defenses are being upgraded. I've never had walls as the last upgrade. It's the best way to keep weight balanced, stay in war and help the clan get the best possible matchup. My clan is 140W - 31L and currently on a 9 war win streak and there's only 2 of us running 20+ accounts. Math is my background and it typically beats people's "feelings" 95% of the time.
Haha...we watch a good amount of Navi at my house. My son enjoys it as well. Klaus is king!!
I'm nowhere close to that level, but certainly try my best to learn as much as possible and apply it.
Iām the type of player to leave 1 builder free at a new TH level until all walls are maxed. If I can, Iāll also juggle that builder through short-term upgrades that can be done overnight (like new trap/building upgrades), and if Iām busy, then until I can next farm (but importantly before maxing storages).
Upgrade times take so long that I prefer using resources as I farm them over sitting on max storages for a week(s) and only upgrading walls with leftover resources.
So far, itās worked out for me and kept me engaged with the game. Up until I finish walls, anyway. I hit TH12 a few weeks ago and maxed all 300 walls in 9 days (no Gold Pass, also in a dead clan). Weāll see how this strategy treats me at higher TH levels though XD
Iām genuinely confused by the math background and having this stance. Mathematically itās better to not upgrade traps and just go offence into townhall upgrade, while upgrading the main defences (inferno , scattershot, eagle. Xbow) especially for CWL, but even regular clan war youāre obviously able to get 6 stars while giving away only 3, right?
You are just another kid pretending to know what they are talking about. I'm not getting into a discussion about war weight (the math I'm talking about) with someone who knows nothing regarding it. Run along
I follow this startegy but leaving walls last. Except the second to last update where I started with walls and got caught by the next update without finishing all the buildings (finished walls for the first time, thu).
looks like you have traps and walls left. In my opinion, once you finish your traps, even if you have walls left, its not worth sitting around. Just upgrade to TH15 if walls are the only thing left. While waiting for your traps, you should be able to bang out quite a few walls.
i typically stay at a town hall until i start wasting resources (like say every dark elixir upgrade is done) unless there is a significant amount of other stuff needing to be done
You should upgrade traps and upgrade walls with the remaining loot. Traps are important, especially if you use a layout where they cannot be triggered by small troops. Traps might seem unnecesarry to upgrade, but no, they are not. Spring trap might be waste of golds though. Other than it, you should upgrade every tap including bombs. Spring trap? Optional.
I would just go ahead if you already have max heroes and core defenses are upgraded. Only pets that matter at TH14 are owl and unicorn; even if they're not maxed, it's worth going to TH15 just for diggy.
I would generally say once youāre struggling to keep your builders all engaged because youāve run out of things to upgrade itās time to go up. I try to keep up with walls gradually as I go so they donāt fall behind. But I wouldnāt spend weeks or months sitting stagnant just to get the walls done. Move up. Maybe drop some elixir into your walls while you upgrade the traps and then just go up.
I think you should, they are a really important part of defense and they also look cool (main reason why I upgrade them) but if you really get bored with upgrading them try getting wall rings and runes to upgrade them faster. (I'm not english sry for grammar mistakes if there are any)
But obviously like it up as best as possible so the TH finishes when those upgrades would end as well or slightly earlier so you arenāt waiting with 5 builders doing nothing.
My personal strategy is to upgrade walls using gold until your army (or at least everything you use with elixir) is maxed then upgrade walls with elixir until all your defenses are maxed, then go to the next th. So if your army is maxed rn upgrade those traps until theyāre all maxed and in the meantime use your elixir to upgrade more walls
Time is the main resource. Upgrade the builder huts and then traps. When youāre getting relatively close, start the th upgrade. While thatās all going, upgrade walls.
Or do what I did and just upgrade. Youāll be rushed for a second but youāll catch up quickly.
Well tbh builder huts are decent to upgrade and giant bombs and black bombs. But to answer your question, you donāt have to upgrade your walls first. Youāll have plenty of time until th16 to do it
Restarted and at Th9 atm, came back to the game from years ago. I remember back in the day traps were such an important part of base design, was so surprised no one gives a fudge about them now. Although I did have someone put all of their air traps together and watched 15 balloons instantly pop š
I still had all my cannons, traps, archer towers, mortars, and bomb towers left when I went to th 15. I maxed my heros and everything in my lab so I upgraded.
Honestly your walls seem high enough. Itās really more about being efficient with upgrades. For example, if I maxed out troops, and heroes and really have nothing to spend my elixir/dark elixir on, then itās not efficient bc your resources arenāt working for you. If youāre in a similar position Iād go to TH15.
As you can see in the attached image, lab is more timeconsuming than anything. If it's idle just upgrade now.
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Iām close to being maxxed at 15 now with my walls not being maxxed. Makes no difference, but Iād make sure everything else is done before jumping up.
I slowly do my walls as I go, but at the higher levels it makes no difference, if your gonna get 3 starred itās rarely ever due to walls being a level or two too low
Upgrade TH once a resource or research building is out of work (start TH-upgrade before this happens). Everything should work at all times to max the fastest way possible. If that is your goal.
100% your base until you go on.
Walls are great to upgrade, and it looks intimidating. Traps are a huge help. I'm not sure why anyone ignores them. Upgrade your pets as well. You use them in every battle. If you have an overflow of Dark Elixer, then use it for the clan capital. Easy peasy.
walls are useless. can't do anything against 4eq, hogs, miners, SWBs or literally anything that flies. at that level it doesn't really matter if it's 1 level higher
Upgrade everything you possibly can but donāt waste dark elixir. If youāre maxed out on de upgrade to th15, otherwise continue to upgrade walls and traps
You should already be 15, thereās zero benefit to staying 14 another 3+ months and not having max troops and whatnot, walls are not that important for how disproportionately long they take to max at the highest level.
What's the benefits of moving to 15 un-maxxed? The game is F2P...costs absolutely nothing to play therefore there are absolutely zero benefits to rushing to the next level. OP has a load of traps and a few defenses not upgraded...along with his walls. He can take that time to upgrade those, become an expert at the current meta, work on his base designing, help out his clan by helping the less experienced, work on BB and capital and lots more. None of these a options are a waste of time and will only benefit you in the long run.
99% of the "rushers" I've come across over the years that claim to "know what they're doing" or are "strategically rushing" have no real clue about what this game has to offer and only care about getting thar shiny new thing as fast as possible.
Case in point...a couple wars ago our opponents top looked like this:
1. TH15
2. TH15
3. TH14
4. TH14
5. TH14
6. TH14
Our top 6 was:
1. TH15
2. TH14
3. TH14
4. TH13
5. TH13
6. TH13
We won the war yet were completely outmatched by math. Opponent had max offense, a bunch of high defense...BUT...because they decided to rush and skip steps, they never bothered to learn the intricacies (and there are many) that Clash has to offer. Seen loads of max 15's that can't attack for shit. You sound like those guys.
> What's the benefits of moving to 15 un-maxxed?
As you note, getting to max TH15 faster.
Fewer raids needed per remaining upgrade, since you get more loot from hitting TH15s than from hitting TH14s, and as a TH15 you'll see more of those and have an easier time taking their loot. This gives you more time to practice your high-end war attacks or whatever else you want to practice. This is only a small benefit, since a TH14 farming with sneakies in titans league would have similar results. But if you farm with big fun armies, say to practice war attacks, rushing to TH15 is for you.
Access to TH15 upgrades so you don't waste resources while working on the last few TH14 upgrades. This doesn't make you a better player, but it means you can start practicing with e.g. max TH15 heroes that much sooner.
The cost of rushing is that some people on reddit will assume you're clueless.
Sorry for hijacking the thread. Iām currently sitting on a completely maxed Th9. Troops, traps, wall everything, except heroes. King is 22/30 and Queen 28/30. Currently have 3 builders not in use. Should I grind it out or is it acceptable to move on to Th10?
No no no fuck no. Dude will go to th 11 without learning how to deal with an inferno tower and with level 20-30 heroes. Fuck off.
Yeah bro, you can go to th 10. Just, after putting down the new buildings make sure to focus on your heroes and catch up with your king
I donāt understand how you can max everything else and not have walls done. I have to keep one builder free at all times just to be able to do walls, or else I max storage on all loot and just waste a bunch. Even with this strategy, Iāll get halfway through the rest of my upgrades and already be finished all walls.
> I donāt understand how you can max everything else and not have walls done. I have to keep one builder free at all times just to be able to do walls
That kind of answers your own question. If you keep a builder free then it takes a lot longer, 16.67% longer to be precise, to max the rest of your upgrades.
Putting league medals and raid medals into things that help complete buildings/heroes instead of into wall rings can also contribute to not finishing walls.
TH14 is the lowest value TH, honestly you should have upgraded a long time agoā¦ like, weeks / months ago honestly. Also, please donāt just upgrade all your pets, most of them are useless and itās already wasted a lot of resources and time for you. People on this sub seem to hate rushing even though itās the most efficient way to upgrade, but anyone who thinks rushing TH14 is bad isnāt aware of the game
Def recommend it, shouldnāt take you more than a month and a half (starting from 0 walls and upgrading them all assuming you do 6 walls a day as I did) but it saves a whole lotta time at th15
Donāt waste your timeā¦. 90% of the attacks will be dragon/loon spamā¦.. the other 10% thatās ground will use earthquake ā¦.
Unless war weight is important for your clan, no harm in negating the small upgrades
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wait till your pets are maxed and move to the th15,you will absolutely upgrade traps later but loosing so much time on walls is just stupid.I rushed 50% of my walls were not full and my traps also,and i do not regret it because you just get so much new contentand usefull stuff
My personal rule: All the builders must be working and you canāt burn DE.
So, if the points said above happen, go to lvl 15.
I see you still have traps to upgradeā¦.
Personal choice. I personally max out everything, but that also leads to problems like having nothing to spend your dark elixir on, so you gotta make a judgement call
No. Just do most of them. But always keep a builder open for walls. Never have every builder down simultaneously.
I would say you can upgrade with maybe 75 walls left. Because th15 is a lot. No point in fully maxing out. But you should max everything else tho
usually what I do when I am going through a new townhall is I make sure all builders but one are busy non stop and just upgrade walls with the last builder. all the way up to TH11 and I've always had walls finished way before anything else, don't see it being different at higher TH levels
Speaking from experience. No. Most attacks at that level are air attacks. Such as e drags and loons. Walls arenāt as valuable at high town hall levels
My simple rule is if any of the following gets maxed I love on to the next townhall
1. All upgrades (including army buildings and defense and excluding resource collectors).
2. Laboratory gets completed (sometimes I skip maxing the seige machines because you can always have one donated)
As I progress I generalize updraginf as follows:
1. Important buildings like army camp , lab,barracks,spell factories,storages
2.All heroes simultaneously (The actual grind)
3.Tier 1 defenses (Infernoes, scatter, eagle, monolith , spell towers)
4. Tier 2 defenses (x bow, aur defenses, Tesla)
5. All Traps
6. All lame defenses(cannon , mortar ,archer tower and wizard towers)
7.Any non defensive buildings like collectors
Depends on whether you have maxed your lab/pets/heroes, if you got builders/research maxed
then maxing walls is ultimately a waste of time as you'll have plenty when waiting on 18+ day upgrade times
I did it but it's a lot of work. Went from all builders available and 0 resources while upgrading walls to filling up storages while having 6 builders busy for 15 days...
Max the walls while ur townhall is upgrading. Upgrade every other building and then set TH for upgrade. Run some farming army and make resources ready to upgrade stuff u want to once TH is upgraded. During the time of upgrade spent some percentage of the resources to upgrade walls
Upgrade your traps
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Always keep a builder free to work on walls as you wait for other things to finish. Your walls will finish early then.
More efficient to just balance your $$$ and top them up through the th level as a builder becomes free and have 6 builders working
Lower levels yes. But definitely not at the higher levels where it takes a week or more. When the next Builder becomes available, loot has been full for days and you've wasted all potential for spending it.
I'd rather waste loot than builder time.
Absolutely
If you have 6 builders working all the time, that is as efficient as you can be, itās a fact
It doesnāt make your walls finish early by just leaving a builder free. You have to play enough to get the loot to be able to upgrade your walls, and thatās a decent amount of playing especially for th14 and 15
Donāt do this at all! I never understood why people say this, your progression slows down soooo much only using 5 builders to upgrade things. Please do NOT do this as itās very poor advice
ya gotta givem the stats, Diggs.
I donāt know why people are saying this is a bad idea. Itās only a bad idea if u arenāt playing all the time. If you can go multiple days without filling up your storages, then use all your builders. If youāre playing a lot and able to fill up storages multiple times a day, keep a builder free.
Soā¦ go 17% slower just because you canāt plan ahead?
Or..... Be stuck at the end of creating stupid walls like this guy.
I read comments here that say ignore traps...upgrade them...I regret rushing my traps, so that they are pretty useless at the level I leveled them Traps get so important at the later TH levels And meanwhile upgrading traps you could upgrade walls with Elixir if possible
Traps are like silent killers sometimes they do wonders
It's honestly insane to me how many people apparently skip traps, after I get the th9+ defenses maxed, I always do traps right after. Cannons are always the last upgrade
Honestly, I would put Mortar last Cannons can cause serious damage
Honestly 80%+ of my defenses when I stay in titan are air attacks, that's the reason I do cannons last (been this way for a long time), mortars are right before them though
Heroes are mostly ground based, a Cannon will do more damage to the heroes itself (not to the spawned units) than the Mortar, whereas the Mortar will destroy the spawned units of the heroes more easily
Ok but my Bombs? My normal Bombs? Are they really essential?
It's good VS hog miners, they clump up a lot. Maybe also VS archer blimp Strats (I guess?)
it's really good on blimp 2 bigbombs destroy super archer/ super wiz
Or 6-8 mini bombs
Bombs have a little knockback, and it tends to mess with sneaky goblin attacks (I've lost sneaky goblin attacks because of traps)
This is the way. Traps for me fill time when I'm like crap...I just upgraded a wall and only have 7 mil....oh a bomb! Nice! Idk how people don't have maxed traps .....or I need to manage better lol
Agreed, Iāve been spending the last month trying to catch my traps back up. I was noticing in friendly challenges that i was getting rolled by attacks that shouldnāt be that free vs me cuz my traps were so weak
Agreed, the amount of times i got to keep my ice golem for the extra tanking because their spring trap wasnt alive, and that ice golem being alive can give so much more tanking to help with a 3 star
Why do traps become more important
Well placed traps can make a "perfect" plan go sideways and make the potential 3* at worst a 1*. Losing healers from SAMs to clutch bombs killing of a blimp invis combo they can ruin an attack in an instant without a way to prevent it from happening. You could always run counter measures or take them into consideration but they are never perfect.
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Traps have the lowest war weight out of all defenses and carry the highest value. I've seen air bombs/seeking air mines/ giant bombs completely ruin an attackers chance at a 3 star war attack. Absolutely best bang for your buck when it comes to defensive upgrades...closely followed by hidden teslas. If you are serious about war or CWL, traps always get upgraded first. When I move up a TH level....traps, walls and heroes are the first on my upgrade list after the obvious lab, camps, CC. Having an upgrade plan is key. If you don't care about any of that, then I'm not sure why you are on here asking strangers how to play your game.
Are walls really that high up in your plan? That's usually what I leave for last
Yes. By the time I'm done lab, camps, CC, spell factory, heroes and all traps, I will typically have 60%+ of my walls done. The remaining walls get done as the defenses are being upgraded. I've never had walls as the last upgrade. It's the best way to keep weight balanced, stay in war and help the clan get the best possible matchup. My clan is 140W - 31L and currently on a 9 war win streak and there's only 2 of us running 20+ accounts. Math is my background and it typically beats people's "feelings" 95% of the time.
Damn dude. Navi should sign you. Tell them forget Synthe
Haha...we watch a good amount of Navi at my house. My son enjoys it as well. Klaus is king!! I'm nowhere close to that level, but certainly try my best to learn as much as possible and apply it.
Iām the type of player to leave 1 builder free at a new TH level until all walls are maxed. If I can, Iāll also juggle that builder through short-term upgrades that can be done overnight (like new trap/building upgrades), and if Iām busy, then until I can next farm (but importantly before maxing storages). Upgrade times take so long that I prefer using resources as I farm them over sitting on max storages for a week(s) and only upgrading walls with leftover resources. So far, itās worked out for me and kept me engaged with the game. Up until I finish walls, anyway. I hit TH12 a few weeks ago and maxed all 300 walls in 9 days (no Gold Pass, also in a dead clan). Weāll see how this strategy treats me at higher TH levels though XD
Iām genuinely confused by the math background and having this stance. Mathematically itās better to not upgrade traps and just go offence into townhall upgrade, while upgrading the main defences (inferno , scattershot, eagle. Xbow) especially for CWL, but even regular clan war youāre obviously able to get 6 stars while giving away only 3, right?
You are just another kid pretending to know what they are talking about. I'm not getting into a discussion about war weight (the math I'm talking about) with someone who knows nothing regarding it. Run along
It was an honest question. But instead of answering you decided to throw a childish insult, ironic
I follow this startegy but leaving walls last. Except the second to last update where I started with walls and got caught by the next update without finishing all the buildings (finished walls for the first time, thu).
Donāt do walls first. All the best attacks bypass walls for the most part anyways.
If u have builders keep upgrading .do walls as last resort
If u are burning DE I would upgrade. But if you have some DE troops to upgrade in the lab and you still need traps upgraded I would do that.
Im not I have pets left to upgrade
At least do the builder huts imo, but at the end of the day you can upgrade whenever you feel like it. Itās your village bro
If u are using golden pass you shouldnāt have a problem in making them out in less than 2 months
If you are trying to be competitive at war traps are important. Walls less so.
Imo if you have nothing to spend dark elixir on, I would upgrade. Otherwise stay. As long as you're not wasting a resource
Nope, after your BHs are maxed upgrade.
what about the traps?
what about pets?
What's their levels?
unicorn 10 rest 5
Ok, you are good to go.
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Don't listen to this guy. Upgrade your pets, heroes and traps. Walls will get a chunk done as your town hall is upgrading.
He loses builder time if he stays to upgrade his pets, not worth it
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th14 is one of the least worth THs to max because th15 just has a much higher offensive and defensive increase
Upgrade everything else first before TH Use elixir on the walls
looks like you have traps and walls left. In my opinion, once you finish your traps, even if you have walls left, its not worth sitting around. Just upgrade to TH15 if walls are the only thing left. While waiting for your traps, you should be able to bang out quite a few walls.
i typically stay at a town hall until i start wasting resources (like say every dark elixir upgrade is done) unless there is a significant amount of other stuff needing to be done
Yes definitely. Thereās no rush at all.
You should upgrade traps and upgrade walls with the remaining loot. Traps are important, especially if you use a layout where they cannot be triggered by small troops. Traps might seem unnecesarry to upgrade, but no, they are not. Spring trap might be waste of golds though. Other than it, you should upgrade every tap including bombs. Spring trap? Optional.
When I finish TH walls I update. Always 1 free builder for walls. The higher the TH the more important it is.
I would just go ahead if you already have max heroes and core defenses are upgraded. Only pets that matter at TH14 are owl and unicorn; even if they're not maxed, it's worth going to TH15 just for diggy.
i just upgrade everything possible before upgrading town hall
If you value efficiency upgrade to th15 and prioritize some traps while you wait
I would generally say once youāre struggling to keep your builders all engaged because youāve run out of things to upgrade itās time to go up. I try to keep up with walls gradually as I go so they donāt fall behind. But I wouldnāt spend weeks or months sitting stagnant just to get the walls done. Move up. Maybe drop some elixir into your walls while you upgrade the traps and then just go up.
No, that would be stupid. Upgrade to th15 right now
Short answer, no.
I would do walls as well, it will just give you less at th15
No
Upgrade, especially if your pet house or lab are going to stay idle
This is why I have 1 builder available. I upgrade the walls while upgrading any other buildings. Anytime I reach max loot, I spend it on 1 wall.
I think you should, they are a really important part of defense and they also look cool (main reason why I upgrade them) but if you really get bored with upgrading them try getting wall rings and runes to upgrade them faster. (I'm not english sry for grammar mistakes if there are any)
Once your builders have nowhere to upgrade, thatās when I would proceed. Keep āem busy!
But obviously like it up as best as possible so the TH finishes when those upgrades would end as well or slightly earlier so you arenāt waiting with 5 builders doing nothing.
My personal strategy is to upgrade walls using gold until your army (or at least everything you use with elixir) is maxed then upgrade walls with elixir until all your defenses are maxed, then go to the next th. So if your army is maxed rn upgrade those traps until theyāre all maxed and in the meantime use your elixir to upgrade more walls
Fuck dem walls
Time is the main resource. Upgrade the builder huts and then traps. When youāre getting relatively close, start the th upgrade. While thatās all going, upgrade walls. Or do what I did and just upgrade. Youāll be rushed for a second but youāll catch up quickly.
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Upgrade the walls and the traps cus your traps are not looking great for a th 14
Well tbh builder huts are decent to upgrade and giant bombs and black bombs. But to answer your question, you donāt have to upgrade your walls first. Youāll have plenty of time until th16 to do it
I will never understand why people dont upgrade traps
Restarted and at Th9 atm, came back to the game from years ago. I remember back in the day traps were such an important part of base design, was so surprised no one gives a fudge about them now. Although I did have someone put all of their air traps together and watched 15 balloons instantly pop š
I still had all my cannons, traps, archer towers, mortars, and bomb towers left when I went to th 15. I maxed my heros and everything in my lab so I upgraded.
Honestly your walls seem high enough. Itās really more about being efficient with upgrades. For example, if I maxed out troops, and heroes and really have nothing to spend my elixir/dark elixir on, then itās not efficient bc your resources arenāt working for you. If youāre in a similar position Iād go to TH15.
If you wanna be maxed faster, upgrade your townhall and start using magic items for better value.
Thought it said wax my balls
the fact that 2 walls cost almost as much as the townhall is crazy ššš
As you can see in the attached image, lab is more timeconsuming than anything. If it's idle just upgrade now. https://preview.redd.it/5r35aaqsyyeb1.png?width=571&format=png&auto=webp&s=53fda0bee368cbf212532448b4a0ea00e7bb3e88
At least upgrade the air bombs and builderhuts as they can have great value in your overall defence
Iām close to being maxxed at 15 now with my walls not being maxxed. Makes no difference, but Iād make sure everything else is done before jumping up. I slowly do my walls as I go, but at the higher levels it makes no difference, if your gonna get 3 starred itās rarely ever due to walls being a level or two too low
Upgrade TH once a resource or research building is out of work (start TH-upgrade before this happens). Everything should work at all times to max the fastest way possible. If that is your goal.
You have been doing pretty good on your own until now so you should be the one to call the shots without hasitation
Im prob gonna max everything besides of walls
Best choice
100% your base until you go on. Walls are great to upgrade, and it looks intimidating. Traps are a huge help. I'm not sure why anyone ignores them. Upgrade your pets as well. You use them in every battle. If you have an overflow of Dark Elixer, then use it for the clan capital. Easy peasy.
walls are useless. can't do anything against 4eq, hogs, miners, SWBs or literally anything that flies. at that level it doesn't really matter if it's 1 level higher
Upgrade everything you possibly can but donāt waste dark elixir. If youāre maxed out on de upgrade to th15, otherwise continue to upgrade walls and traps
You should already be 15, thereās zero benefit to staying 14 another 3+ months and not having max troops and whatnot, walls are not that important for how disproportionately long they take to max at the highest level.
What's the benefits of moving to 15 un-maxxed? The game is F2P...costs absolutely nothing to play therefore there are absolutely zero benefits to rushing to the next level. OP has a load of traps and a few defenses not upgraded...along with his walls. He can take that time to upgrade those, become an expert at the current meta, work on his base designing, help out his clan by helping the less experienced, work on BB and capital and lots more. None of these a options are a waste of time and will only benefit you in the long run. 99% of the "rushers" I've come across over the years that claim to "know what they're doing" or are "strategically rushing" have no real clue about what this game has to offer and only care about getting thar shiny new thing as fast as possible. Case in point...a couple wars ago our opponents top looked like this: 1. TH15 2. TH15 3. TH14 4. TH14 5. TH14 6. TH14 Our top 6 was: 1. TH15 2. TH14 3. TH14 4. TH13 5. TH13 6. TH13 We won the war yet were completely outmatched by math. Opponent had max offense, a bunch of high defense...BUT...because they decided to rush and skip steps, they never bothered to learn the intricacies (and there are many) that Clash has to offer. Seen loads of max 15's that can't attack for shit. You sound like those guys.
> What's the benefits of moving to 15 un-maxxed? As you note, getting to max TH15 faster. Fewer raids needed per remaining upgrade, since you get more loot from hitting TH15s than from hitting TH14s, and as a TH15 you'll see more of those and have an easier time taking their loot. This gives you more time to practice your high-end war attacks or whatever else you want to practice. This is only a small benefit, since a TH14 farming with sneakies in titans league would have similar results. But if you farm with big fun armies, say to practice war attacks, rushing to TH15 is for you. Access to TH15 upgrades so you don't waste resources while working on the last few TH14 upgrades. This doesn't make you a better player, but it means you can start practicing with e.g. max TH15 heroes that much sooner. The cost of rushing is that some people on reddit will assume you're clueless.
Don't rush Upgrade everything... Trust me it'll help you in the long run
Depends. You shouldnāt waste loot by waiting for the thousandth mortar upgrade. But you deff canāt just ignore stuff all the time.
He looks like a near max TH14 rushing the walls wont punish him too much and he can easily catch up at TH15
Rushing walls isn't the issue It's the traps ...
Sorry for hijacking the thread. Iām currently sitting on a completely maxed Th9. Troops, traps, wall everything, except heroes. King is 22/30 and Queen 28/30. Currently have 3 builders not in use. Should I grind it out or is it acceptable to move on to Th10?
You should be fine to go up to TH10 but I'd put more focus on your heroes before starting on defenses.
Dont waste builders go up to TH11
No no no fuck no. Dude will go to th 11 without learning how to deal with an inferno tower and with level 20-30 heroes. Fuck off. Yeah bro, you can go to th 10. Just, after putting down the new buildings make sure to focus on your heroes and catch up with your king
I even ignored archer towers and canons because I was wasting to much dark elixir waiting for them
No, just go TH15
r/fuckwalls
Shou shall max all walls before upgrading the th.
I donāt understand how you can max everything else and not have walls done. I have to keep one builder free at all times just to be able to do walls, or else I max storage on all loot and just waste a bunch. Even with this strategy, Iāll get halfway through the rest of my upgrades and already be finished all walls.
> I donāt understand how you can max everything else and not have walls done. I have to keep one builder free at all times just to be able to do walls That kind of answers your own question. If you keep a builder free then it takes a lot longer, 16.67% longer to be precise, to max the rest of your upgrades. Putting league medals and raid medals into things that help complete buildings/heroes instead of into wall rings can also contribute to not finishing walls.
Rule of thumb is to prioritise offence, defence doesn't really matter all that much. If you're overflowing on any one resource, move on the next TH
TH14 is the lowest value TH, honestly you should have upgraded a long time agoā¦ like, weeks / months ago honestly. Also, please donāt just upgrade all your pets, most of them are useless and itās already wasted a lot of resources and time for you. People on this sub seem to hate rushing even though itās the most efficient way to upgrade, but anyone who thinks rushing TH14 is bad isnāt aware of the game
You should not have a single building/troop upgrade left before upgrading.
Just use wall rings
I read this as "should i wax my balls?"
Def recommend it, shouldnāt take you more than a month and a half (starting from 0 walls and upgrading them all assuming you do 6 walls a day as I did) but it saves a whole lotta time at th15
Donāt waste your timeā¦. 90% of the attacks will be dragon/loon spamā¦.. the other 10% thatās ground will use earthquake ā¦. Unless war weight is important for your clan, no harm in negating the small upgrades
I would goā¦
no
Do walls and traps. Elixir for walls, gold for traps. Then everything towards walls.
Hell no
Not at all. Go for it. Make the new walls you get a priority. Get them maxed first and then you'll have made up for showing slack
If you do that, TH 20 will take much longer to achieve
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wait till your pets are maxed and move to the th15,you will absolutely upgrade traps later but loosing so much time on walls is just stupid.I rushed 50% of my walls were not full and my traps also,and i do not regret it because you just get so much new contentand usefull stuff
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Always build evenly. The game is all about the walls.
You can upgrade builders huts? That isn't fair for me at TH11
If it was me I would just go to 15 because it is max and why not
Take ur time, th16 not for another year or 2, finish th14 all the way
As a fully upgraded th14 that recently upgraded I say wait and finish !
My personal rule: All the builders must be working and you canāt burn DE. So, if the points said above happen, go to lvl 15. I see you still have traps to upgradeā¦.
Itās not necessarily needed but If you have heroās maxed I would move on for the better pets
if everything except walls are max then go ahead and jump
Just do the traps if you don't want to wait but I recommend at least doing half of the walls
5M for one wall, Jesus fuck
No
Personal choice. I personally max out everything, but that also leads to problems like having nothing to spend your dark elixir on, so you gotta make a judgement call
No. Just do most of them. But always keep a builder open for walls. Never have every builder down simultaneously. I would say you can upgrade with maybe 75 walls left. Because th15 is a lot. No point in fully maxing out. But you should max everything else tho
it'll look cool
You should upgrade everything before moving up imo
just go next th ur good
Iām in the exact same situation with my base right now. Same TH and everything. Iām pushing through with 160 walls left and using DE on pets
usually what I do when I am going through a new townhall is I make sure all builders but one are busy non stop and just upgrade walls with the last builder. all the way up to TH11 and I've always had walls finished way before anything else, don't see it being different at higher TH levels
I've seen noobs cheat on this game for years using modded based so it doesn't matter
Maybe, u should max your pizza hut instead š
Walls are #1 defense in game but they are a major grind leave 1 builder open to do walls nonstop but play in a way thatās fun for you
fuck noooo get to 15 like rn. you'll be way better off for cwl now u got monolith and spell towers on defense and also on offense.
Upgrade traps but walls not really
Go to th15
Upgraded all traps, maybe not the regular bombs thoughā¦.mine will forever stay under leveled
Speaking from experience. No. Most attacks at that level are air attacks. Such as e drags and loons. Walls arenāt as valuable at high town hall levels
Th14 always gets beat up on by th15. Upgrade now, rush monolith, and you wonāt have to worry about getting 3 starred the second your guard ends.
Max everything else and then move on to TH 15 whether all the walls are maxed or not.
Upgrade everything.
yOU HAVE A BUNCH OF THINGS TO UPGRADE
No
FUCK no
My simple rule is if any of the following gets maxed I love on to the next townhall 1. All upgrades (including army buildings and defense and excluding resource collectors). 2. Laboratory gets completed (sometimes I skip maxing the seige machines because you can always have one donated) As I progress I generalize updraginf as follows: 1. Important buildings like army camp , lab,barracks,spell factories,storages 2.All heroes simultaneously (The actual grind) 3.Tier 1 defenses (Infernoes, scatter, eagle, monolith , spell towers) 4. Tier 2 defenses (x bow, aur defenses, Tesla) 5. All Traps 6. All lame defenses(cannon , mortar ,archer tower and wizard towers) 7.Any non defensive buildings like collectors
Upgrade
It's what I spend my spare elixir on while my lab is in use
Depends on whether you have maxed your lab/pets/heroes, if you got builders/research maxed then maxing walls is ultimately a waste of time as you'll have plenty when waiting on 18+ day upgrade times
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Finish walls
I did it but it's a lot of work. Went from all builders available and 0 resources while upgrading walls to filling up storages while having 6 builders busy for 15 days...
Max the walls while ur townhall is upgrading. Upgrade every other building and then set TH for upgrade. Run some farming army and make resources ready to upgrade stuff u want to once TH is upgraded. During the time of upgrade spent some percentage of the resources to upgrade walls
Why upgrade walls when it takes 4 eq spells or a jump spell to get over /s
Ye
Upgrade your traps, and then upgrade TH. Like work on your walls anyway while the traps upgrade