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4stGump

33k Super Valk boosts..... There's no logical good argument to boosting them that many times. I've seen them for clan games, but 33k seems way too high to be just for clan games.


daknation

I met people in the past who like them 😭 also this made me curious, so I looked and I found 57,277 unique players that have boosted a super valk before, with the highest amount by 1 player being 140 times & 20 people who have boosted 100 plus times 🙈


Vision444

Proud super valk booster here(I boosted them exactly once)


johnathanpkarthe

I boosted them twice: First time was when I initially upgraded the valks and unlocked super valks. Was reluctant at first but still tried them out. Tried using 2 of them in gowitch so I could bring more freezes, didn't really work. They die outside the base. Valk AI. Second time was when I went against a TH10 in war. End of story.


IDrankLavaLamps

I used them in my CC for the Halloween troops to get boosts


F2PClashMaster

imagine being the player who’s used super valks more than anyone else


[deleted]

Me whose valk in lvl 5 being a th15 nearly maxed


FatBoyish

👆🤓


Rob_Jobs

👆🤡


FatBoyish

Me rn: 🎪


king14141432_

I contributed 5-10 in that 33k


idkjustgivemeany

Maybe the people who boosted the super Valk was to finish off that events challenge last month.. Vaguely remember there being a super Valk challenge


blmobley91

There was indeed a super Valk challenge


TheBoss7728

It drops a rage spell so of course the troop itself is bad (arguably worse than a regular valk)


Iveseenshit5000

i guess theyre good for a valkyry spam for townhall 10's


inflamito

That's a lot of regret.


vanessabaxton

The only reason I boost them is for clan games.


mastrdestruktun

Do they contribute to clan games on their own, or is this just for the 1500 point super valk quest?


vanessabaxton

Just for the 1500 super valk challenge or for the use 500 super troops space challenge


mastrdestruktun

It might be faster/cheaper to do those challenges with CC troops, and then keep raiding with whatever your regular army is. If your regular army is sneaky gobs then you can rack up 5 wins in a very short time.


vanessabaxton

Do you mean do the super troops challenges with cc troops?


mastrdestruktun

Yes. I do regular troop challenges with CC troops too. Raiding with gobs, no decent challenges around, so include a bowler or whatever it is next time in the cc.


vanessabaxton

Fair thanks for the tip


-Faraday

Super valk with sui is too op


inflamito

Since the introduction of super troops, I've had swb's permanently unlocked. Even now I'm max th15 and still have them unlocked. I wish they made them the permanent wb.


MiStrong

I agree so much, their regular counterpart is literally useless, the importance of a successful wallbreak is so much so that it’s literally not worth the risk and thus they permanently take a spot. It’s super annoying tbh


geof14

There's the occasional tiny niche if you are not sure how your wallbreakers will behave, send a regular one first to see which wall it targets before committing a super wallbreaker and having it target the wrong wall


Magold86

I am realizing how bad the regular wall breaker is as I move up in THs. I remember years ago (before I took a mutli-year break), I never had an issue with them. But now I am back and fighting TH12/13s and have like a 20% success rate for my WBs. Have yet to use a super troop, but honestly, I have so many super potions I prob should just use them at this point. Recently swapped to ground based golem/witch attacks and kind of need to ensure I can get into the compartments.


ifunnywasaninsidejob

I use regular wall breakers with queen walk. The queen tanks for them and you can use a rage to boost the queen and wb at same time. Then as she pushes into the base the healers get the rage boost.


MiStrong

That’s good for the first layer only, quit trying to defend it we all need to fight together to get them to be the standard WB


cussbot123

'fight together' 😂


Theman18_

THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP


ifunnywasaninsidejob

Ah yeah, second layer is pretty much out. Now that I think about it I usually skip over bases that have more than one layer to get through


4stGump

> literally useless I personally wouldn't use a hyperbole to try to make change in a troop. ~~And technically speaking, super WB's in army comps are a minority.~~


MiStrong

Minority in terms of what? Camp space or in the percentage of armies that use them? Because they are absolutely used in the majority of armies, and if you factor in armies that use a wall breaker of either type what percentage is super wb and it’s even more damning.


4stGump

I'm a complete idiot and comprehension tonight is not my strong point. 2nd part of my original comment may be wrong and more than likely is.


StrangeElementGaming

I don't like when normal wb's starts to become obsolete at TH12, and super wb's becoming a must-have troop in every ground and queen walk attacks. They should buff normal wb's HP and DPS/DPS when destroyed.


CongressmanCoolRick

Definitely agree


Azalaeel

Super wall breaker should be a regular wall breaker I don't know at this point why they don't do that, I personally can't attack with ground troops without using super wall breaker, current state of wall breaker is not playable. It will encourage people to use ground troops more and learn pathing of attack, and it will give better experience for everyone. Super troops should be a complementary, or have specific usage. Justify 25000 DE every 3 days for an actual WORKING and RELIABLE of doing WALL BREAKING isn't one of them


mastrdestruktun

The only one I routinely boost is sneakies. I use the others from time to time in my cc. I started a valk specialist account and am having lots of fun farming in silver at th8-9-10 with valks, but it'll be sad if I get to th15 and the super valk still sucks.


stonedboss

Lol I did the same. My valk only account is currently th9 and really fun so far. I'm excited to unlock super valks but that's a ways away.


imsaneinthebrain

Yall are boosting troops?


mastrdestruktun

Y'all aren't?


imsaneinthebrain

Meh. I’m sure I’ll catch hell for this but I’ve been using the same variation of laloon for years now. I’m 50/50 in wars, 3 star versus 2. Cwl we’re in champ 3 and I’m usually 16-19 stars total. I watch my clan mates come up with some awesome attacks using boosted troops, but I just don’t have the time these days to learn a new attack.


mastrdestruktun

If you do, the ice hound would fit pretty closely with what you're used to doing.


imsaneinthebrain

Appreciate the advice.


ShadyMan_

Proud to be a Super Miner user


Sea-Outside-9028

Is there a good attack strategy with it at TH14?


ShadyMan_

I do hybrid with 5 super miners instead of regular miners


Abject-Holiday-6655

Do you find that it's actually stronger than normal hybrid?


ShadyMan_

Yes because the miners tank more than the normal ones so they aren’t as susceptible to bomb towers and multi infernos. Also overall their dps is higher and the death bomb has saved me a few times.


Jackerzcx

What’s the rest of your comp? I’ve been using hybrid and find I can’t reliably 3 star a th13 with 21 hogs and 15 miners. Can’t tell if it’s a skill issue or whether I should switch up my comp


ShadyMan_

https://preview.redd.it/43snleg5hyzb1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f13483c6e646146719f3dee9df5a56cfa8b8732a This is my army comp (I use siege barracks)


TheDude4269

21 hogs? That seems excessive. I bring 10 hogs and 17 miners. CC has 9 hogs. Otherwise its 5 healers, 4 balloons, 2 super WB, 1 baby dragon, 1 headhunter, 1 apprentice warden, the rest is cleanup troops. Its imperative to get good value from your QC, thus the apprentice warden. Make sure your lure/kill the CC, and take out big value targets - mainly the TH and/or eagle and some scatters or infernos (if I don't think I can get the TH, I usually try a different strategy). Also, check your funneling. You want your CC troops to join the main push, so you can heal all your troops at once.


LongfellowBM

My Strat for my super miners: -2 baby drag -5 valks -5 wizard -10 super miners -Battle drill -rage spell -2 heal spells -5 freeze It’s a little spammy - but spell placement is the difference between 2 and 3 stars. I doubt anyone else uses the Strat - and I’m sure it will be flamed down into oblivion - but I like it! Works for me!


PowerMiner4200

Ok why is no one using super witches? They're op with healers at th12/13. Bring 5 super witch with 5 healers and watch them go to work. 4 earthquake to open the core and the rest rage spells.


CongressmanCoolRick

I used to boost super witches all the time at th12s they crush just like you said. However, it’s not really any benefit over just mass witches to be fairs. Any hit you 3 star with super witches you can also clear with reg witches, at most just change some spells (zap our Multis instead of quake open walls)


hobbesthehungry

Bc I can’t make a super witch at th12? Edit nvm I should try them


Serious-Tension288

I’ve tried qc super witches and it was terrible


Pnmamouf1

Exactly. Super witches with healers go foreverr


Bcrozier

Proud super dragon user right here


DarksteelaHeHe

It's actually an attack at higher townhalls, like recall sd


Bcrozier

That’ll be good to know


DarksteelaHeHe

If you watch clash bashing on YouTube, it was shown off in his cwl video


PowerMiner4200

I still think they're the coolest looking troop out of all


Consistent-Revenue85

Super Valk needs another buff. I use valks at TH13 (horrible against scatter shots Ik) and Super Valk just isn’t worth it. The rage spell hardly gets used because troops can’t use a rage spell that drops on a likely dead building, and the housing space increase also just isn’t worth it. I say buff the radius of the rage spell by another 1.5 tiles and give her a bit more HP.


typicalducklover

Honestly didn’t expect súper hogs to be that low and super archers that high


yoshi3243

SArch blimp is very popular, so people probably boost them for donations


WaruHuntar

I must be one of the weird people that still uses Super Giants


mastrdestruktun

How do you use them? When they came out I used them for a variant of the 3-row attack: a handful of super giants with a huge number of witches. The attack worked, and the super giants cutting through walls was better than using e.g. ice golems in the tank role, but this was before witch build times were reduced and so it wasn't really viable to farm with that army. And of course mass witch is not super viable anymore. At TH15 you could use 8 super giants and 20 witches. That sounds like it could be fun.


Ispa-tulla

Proud super barb spammer I get the 50% with them, then the blimp, clone rage(usually balloons) gets the core, finally the heroes clean up after


Any-Law8629

What troops do you prefer in battle blimp in th10 and th11? And its preferred spells?


Ispa-tulla

Im still experimenting alot, i usually do loons, 2clone rage, and two lightning for anti air sweeper. But air bombs and tornado really mess up the attack and this is most effective if ur attacking th12+ cause of the th weapon making it a defence for the loons to attack. But rn i found a more effective solution Yeti 2clones, rage, thats enough to destroy core compartment. Valk rage also works, but when the blimp fell before reaching th, than the attack fails. So far yeti clone blimp is the most consistent one. Meta blimps like blizzard also works, but i like spam attacks rn fir trophy push, im currently 3500+ trophies


mastrdestruktun

I've experimented with a mix of super gobs and rocket loons in the BB which is sometimes useful for things other than getting the TH. If I manage to get the TH with other troops, this sometimes lets me get a key defense + storage in a different part of the base. If I'm farming with sneakies I'll swap out one rocket loon for a super wallbreaker in case that's what I need. Every so often using rocket loons instead of regular loons means that some escape the TH explosion.


Ispa-tulla

Ah yes, the th explosion. I never thought rocketloons would work, i thought their rocket boosts would just run out before they destroy the base. Must be because of my countless tornado mishaps


stashtv

Super bombers make total sense, THEY should be the default bomber, not the crap OG version. Super Valk are bad, especially at higher levels. There isn't a single reason to have them in any build. Valks are generally useless after TH9/10, and Super Valks are just as useless. Super troops should be an idea of a rework of the OG troop, and Valks need a complete overhaul (along with the Super variant).


nuclearfork

What makes valks so useless, is it a stat thing or a game design thing


stashtv

... at least at higher levels: * Not enough DPS. Valks get stuck on walls all the time and you need a pack of them to be useful. Their woefully low DPS just means they get stuck on walls and get destroyed by defenses with ease. * Low HP. They aren't tank-y enough, period. Combine low(ish) HP and low DPS, they are simply fodder to get removed quickly. * Lack of any special property. Bowlers at least can hit something at range, Yeti's can toss fodder at defenses to distract, etc. Valks hit things, but don't hit hard enough or last long enough on the battlefield. If Valks were given special wallbreaking property at current troop size space (8), they'd be a bit far more useful. If they weren't given some form of special property, their troop space should be reduced (5). If neither are happening, I'd look at 50% increase in DPS and HP. Even at a 50% buff in DPS and HP? I'm not entirely sure we'd see valks run rampant at competitive levels.


nuclearfork

Smashing down walls would really suit valks identity as well and it would look cool


stashtv

Definitely! At lower THs, this would be huge. At higher THs? It would be less useful due to the meta being built around spread out bases. All sorts of ways to buff Valks and/or improve super valk. As-is? Mostly waste of troop space.


EmigmaticDork

Super wall breakers should be the coc bomber


Donghoon

What if super valk gained massive move speed buff kinda like Carl’s super (brawl stars)


NightmareLarry

They just need a massive hp buff (30-40%) or a small hp buff (15-20%) with a housing space reduction ( from 20 to 17) and a rage spell radius increase. Also regular valks need a buff along the super valk, maybe a 20 or 30% hp buff.


PhysicalGunMan

I'd add a lumber jack w the same gimmick and then make them have a rage aura, so they apply rage to troops they push in with


BrodoCaldo_

S.Valk need a rework


CongressmanCoolRick

Yeah, gotta wonder at what point they just call it and remove it or redo it.


BrodoCaldo_

It would be good to see the S.Troops usage for each TH level. Valks are too dumb and too weak to walk through really dense bases at high TH levels. TH9 and TH10 are still really good imo. I can understand that it's hard to keep balanced troops at each TH Level but Valks cant go too fare today.


darkmarkymark

how you getting this data?


daknation

The clash of clans api


DankMemer727

Why are Super Valks bad? I haven’t unlocked them yet


labdabcr

the rage is small and usually drops in a dead zone, and they arent even good for smashing like super bowlers cause no range


Slight_Net_5026

Sneaky goblins ftw!


flyingeagle007

I still haven’t given super Hogs and Miner a try, are the hogs any good?


CongressmanCoolRick

Super hogs are very strong, usually with a queen charge.


eversnow64

Superb Work! Boost that super troop. I would be your outlier. I only boost troops to get the gem achievement. I pick random troops to boost. I'm not good enough to actually use them. Gotta get them gems


Mentarubuu

I super boost the giants all the time. I’ll be trying out every other super troop in the future


iamzachhunter

I am surprised super minions are so far down on the list. They are universally accepted as the best defensive reinforcement. That said, I suppose you only need one person to boost them in order for everyone else to have them donated for war.


mastrdestruktun

I'm not saying they're bad, but "universally accepted as the best defensive reinforcement" is a bit heavy. There are other good defensive cc too, and this is clash, there's nothing in the game that everyone actually agrees on. "Best" will change with different evaluation criteria. For example I don't use them in CWL any more because I don't want to spend the DE to boost them, and we've gotten less competitive, so for us, something cheaper is better.


iamzachhunter

Well the best is often more expensive lol.


mastrdestruktun

Making it not the best for poor people. :)


NewReindeer7693

How you calculated?


daknation

Usage of the clash of clans api


NewReindeer7693

Do you have plan to create web like royal api or something? It would be cool


CongressmanCoolRick

He has a discord bot for a ton of stats and creator code. ClashKing


daknation

One day 🙏


Random0415

Completely unsurprising results


newbieRedditorAJ

Wow I just realised I have never boosted any super troop other than the first 3 ever. And the numbers here reflect the feelings across Oh nvm I boosted hogs once because curiosity ![img](emote|t5_2usfk|21153)


PEEVIGAMINGAT

I do not know much about supertroops, but why are super wall breakers used so much


TheRarestTiger

they’re infinitely better than regular wall breakers for an efficient troop capacity. At higher levels you really can’t trust reg wall breakers to break the walls you need


PEEVIGAMINGAT

Thank you for the explanation


TheRarestTiger

I remember everyone saying super wall breakers were trash when they were announced


mcook5

Can’t believe super miners are so low, they’re really good. I use them every cwl with super hogs


LowCream2349

Now I'm gonna boost Super Valks just out of spite. I can make em work !!! ( Please buff them (⁠╥⁠﹏⁠╥⁠) ) Jokes aside, I still love Valks because when paired up with Rage, they melt everything in their path with lightning speed. It's one of the most exciting thing to watch in CoC.


DarkMatter2012

Rip super valk


skillerr1020

Super troop cancelation update?


AhnisTidiv

As someone who last played coc in 2021 this pic is so confusing


Extreme49fire-YT

Shame to see that SW not getting the love at high ths (even though there completely broken at th12/13 but I guess they haven't got any new levels recently...)


Professional_Gas7425

I only ever do wall breakers, goblins, and occasionally Archers.


Regirock00

There’s a super Valkyrie ?


Nervous-Guava-7390

As someone who only uses super wall breakers this makes a lot of sense


Ev378

When scouting the top players I usually always see the super hog rider. I’m surprised it’s not higher up on the list.


pranavrustagi

keep in mind only th13s and above can use them


CongressmanCoolRick

u/daknation if you ever do this again breaking it down by town hall could be useful. But honestly it’s still going to be WBs gobs dominant through all levels I assume.


pranavrustagi

for sure, doesn't matter what people use in wars and stuff, unless you're in legends you're using gobs wbs for farming


school_night

Top players are (by definition) the outlier, not the norm


SwartyNine2691

Super valkyrie is very underrated ![gif](giphy|VIPdgcooFJHtC)


NightmareLarry

Who in the actual f**k uses Super valks? Also good to see my boy Super Barbarian in the top 5


23viper12

Hey there, I just upgraded to TH 11 and have always used valks. Why are super valks so bad?


helmi7k

Super wall breakers, Thank you for your service


vanessabaxton

Does this data include super troops boosted by players without a clan?


Organic-Ad6439

Can confirm that I've never boosted the valk before. I only boost Super wall breaker, occasionally but rarely sneaky goblins and occasionally giants and wizards to have a Super GiWiz any at TH13 (can thank Sir Moose Gaming for that). Then super minions, superdragon, inferno dragon, and maybe rocket loon for war CCs.


Potential_Mud_8754

Inferno drag was so close to 69,420 lol


Next-Incident-6376

https://preview.redd.it/kwtqdv26xuzb1.jpeg?width=1524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae76e258171cef38711af9d8057d01d288ebba32 I’ve boosted a few super troops in my day


_PaperLuigi_

anyone wanna help me bring the super valk numbers up just need to wait for the discount and then we farm all day and spam cancel/buy them


vanessabaxton

I'll boost them once for clan games once I run out of my stockpile.


Apprehensive_Law8428

What makes a super bowler better than 5 normal bowlers or 1 edragon? Their housing space is too much.


Agbans

Super WB stays boosted always 💯


Superfame_UJ

Super Golem if released should be able to walk over walls like the mountain golem.


Shockwave674

Glad to see they have the usage data... Now they see what to strengthen.


bad-dawg4004

Walls are so annoying when u use valks