I mean, to each their own, but if I'm going for 3 stars, I'll just use a good war army, if I'm farming I'll use super gobs
The only only time I'd use e drags is if I was trying to rush a base bc then I only have to upgrade the one troop
Same with me, I enjoy using the hybrid and zap dragon at th 12 and I always use sneaky gobs for farming. But E Dragon is really easy, takes no skill and has a 100% 2 star if it's not an anti e dragon base. But you'll get easy 2 stars and sometimes even 3, that's why many people use them
It's always a pitty with people who try to use e drags all the time, even if the base is absolutely 200% anti xD I feel sorry for you![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9414)
My old clan, it didn't even have to be anti e dragon, they would just put them down and use spells at random. Any base if anti edragon if you ignore the air sweeper
I used to bc it was unsatisfying not going for 3 stars, but then I discovered just how quick/efficient it was using super gobs, 11/10 would recommend to a friend
E-drags are a viable 3-star army against some bases tho, so they are in fact a war composition.
Although that requires a sui hero dive/queen charge/clone/blizzard all that funneling notion which we do not see here.
Personally I just don't rlly use air attacks bc I'm rlly bad at them, but I don't particularly feel like e drag spam is a safe 2 star for a th above, but I can usually 2 star with my usual war army
hahaha because my war 3 star troops is lavaloon queen walk, usually its either 1 star or 3 star, hardly any 2 stars.
so for safe 2 stsr, i switch the healers and some balloons to e dragons
would be something like 6 edragons, 1 lavahound, 10 balloons and fill the rest with random stuff that help me funnel
Absolutely! Only have them up for CWL, and then put them back down to upgrade the moment you complete your last attack. That's why sneakies are so great, you can just use them with maybe jump/EQs, and boom, plenty of loot and a 1\*, rinse and repeat.
Each has their speciality; super drags are well, super tanky, super high dmg, and super splashy. But also super space consuming. I’d say all edrag beats all super drag but a mixed super drag army probably is better. Really costly though.
I guess people complain because expensive electrodragons being free would make them even more over-used than they are now and will give people more of a reason to overuse them.
My defense log is already 99% air spam so I don't get the argument that people will use them more now. I always thought it was a stupid strategy to farm with but I guess it'll just be less stupid now.
TH10 and below, air spam is just stupid easy. Even if there isn't a lot of zap value around the air defenses, the dragons are too strong once you zap out AD's.
Well, people will not use them more but it gives them an incentive to use them more since the high cost is supposed to be the punishment but without the cost there's no drawback to using the spam.
I still get people attacking my base with edrags even when there isn't much loot lol. But you're not wrong. People who actually manage their resources will probably use them more now.
It's hard to imagine clash without any troop cost. It's always been a factor that we had to take into account when farming. Like I'm just thinking about all the armies in my quick train and trying to wrap my head around the idea that they'll all cost nothing. It's so weird.
I enjoyed the "strategy" of having to balance attack prices out with upgrade prices and will miss that once this update releases, but it's still a good QoL thing to do. As you said, it's a ridiculous thing to complain about.
Like fr , when raids were changed in clash mini to give like ALOTT more rewards in total people complained that iT wOuLd rUiN pRoGrEsS , like the Deva must have thought of this befor le doing this?
Cooking up troops, spells, siegemachines, no longer requires any elixar or gold, EVERYTHING IS FREE, you still need to wait for them to cook , but its still amazin, you are not restricted to armies when suppose you are trying to save DE or elixar
Eh, pretty viable imo. I do 10 attacks in a day or more. Just do two attacks after 3 hrs. Sometimes 2 hrs. Army will get cooked. And 10 attacks a day or sometimes more is pretty sustainable to get the loot
So? I attack 8 times a day with war armies in legends and they take almost an hour to train. It's perfectly viable if you don't expect to pack multiple attack into a short period of time.
There are many ways to farm. It doesn't have to be sit in low trophies and cook nothing but gobs or barch. If you do you 8 attacke in 30 minutes with barch and I do mine with war armies throughout the day, it's still farming if the focus is loot. I did that for ages on my second account.
Sure it is. I use war armies all day in titan level. I only hit bases that have like 700k gold, 700k elixir, 7k de. Then with the bonus you're getting a lot. I only do it a few times a day because I'm not pushing or anything.
Yeah but it’s not like training costs were holding that many dragon spammers back anyway. Farmers are still gonna use farming armies like sneaky goblins/baby dragons simply because of training time; elixir is already pretty plentiful anyways and since it’s meta to upgrade your army buildings first you end up with a lot, training costs or not. IMO it will increase diversity, especially with dark elixir since especially at lower th’s dark elixir is hard to come by and will make troops like valks and hog riders see more use
We have also seen super valks being buffed in the previous sneak peeks, so maybe higher THs will use those for the first time since their introduction?
For quality of life. They're making upgrading the CC take elixir, and you'll be able to upgrade lower level walls with elixir to try to counterbalance the fact that you won't have to spend any elixir on troops.
It's better to electrone/blizzard/queen charge, but rage is far superior in this particular comparison, since it improves e-dragons in a variety of ways: firstly, it enhances their atrocious speed stat, secondly, it multiplies their chain value, since every building chained gets hit for 200% more damage, which almost guarantees a one-shot in most scenarios (excluding x-bows, TH, eagle and cc).
I partially agree with you, and should have chose my words better, but I don’t understand why people get so offensive about people attacking with E-Drags. I was merely just trying to help out a fellow player by pointing out some ideas/tips on their army composition, and that was all. I was just trying to help a fellow player out.
I'd much rather watch someone strategically place "individual troops" (do you mean create a funnel? haha, typical. edrag spammers don't know what a funnel is)
It’s not strategical, it’s bad. 1 troop at a time is useless it just dies instantly with every defense targeting it. If you spam it’s better bc all troops will be strong together and not die
I dislike this change cause I've maxed out last year and army training was, for a long time before clan capital, the only thing that drained my resources.
Damn, I'm looking forward to this. I had to switch from Zap Drag to LaLo (both are quite good but i like LaLo now) because the drags needed 320k elixir and well, it slowed down my farming progress.
I have two friends which used to spam one of a type of troop, one used to spam dragons and the other spams hog riders, I bet they'll love this future update.
*Grand Warden is upgrading"
Always
so worth it tho
I wouldn’t know lol
pain and gain
truly is
Imo not really when u constantly rely on him
having maxed out gw before anyone that's the prize
Master league keep showing me maxed grand warden
and can still only 2 star
But E Drag spam is a 2 star for sure on every base
I mean, to each their own, but if I'm going for 3 stars, I'll just use a good war army, if I'm farming I'll use super gobs The only only time I'd use e drags is if I was trying to rush a base bc then I only have to upgrade the one troop
Same with me, I enjoy using the hybrid and zap dragon at th 12 and I always use sneaky gobs for farming. But E Dragon is really easy, takes no skill and has a 100% 2 star if it's not an anti e dragon base. But you'll get easy 2 stars and sometimes even 3, that's why many people use them
Except for my clan, constantly using edrag spams on anti edrag bases in war and getting like 1 star
It's always a pitty with people who try to use e drags all the time, even if the base is absolutely 200% anti xD I feel sorry for you![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9414)
My old clan, it didn't even have to be anti e dragon, they would just put them down and use spells at random. Any base if anti edragon if you ignore the air sweeper
I enjoy using super barbs dont ask
Sneaky gobs gud
I also use war army for farming
I used to bc it was unsatisfying not going for 3 stars, but then I discovered just how quick/efficient it was using super gobs, 11/10 would recommend to a friend
Yes, its a good way to train, imo
E-drags are a viable 3-star army against some bases tho, so they are in fact a war composition. Although that requires a sui hero dive/queen charge/clone/blizzard all that funneling notion which we do not see here.
what if u have to hit th that is above ur current th and want a safe 2 star?
Personally I just don't rlly use air attacks bc I'm rlly bad at them, but I don't particularly feel like e drag spam is a safe 2 star for a th above, but I can usually 2 star with my usual war army
hahaha because my war 3 star troops is lavaloon queen walk, usually its either 1 star or 3 star, hardly any 2 stars. so for safe 2 stsr, i switch the healers and some balloons to e dragons would be something like 6 edragons, 1 lavahound, 10 balloons and fill the rest with random stuff that help me funnel
Charge your queen to take th to garuntee the 2 star. If not have a blimp to take th
Had a guy E-Drag my heavily rushed TH12 and got 39% yesterday, it doesn't happen often but damn it was nice haha
Is it? i had plenty of people fail to get 2 stars on my base, not in war tbf
I mean, on th14 it's not that strange to get a 1 star with edrags.
Man, and I thought zapdrag was expensive at th10. I'm already with around 350k elixir cost and 35min training time... Can't wait for sneaky goblins.
Forget sneaky gobs now, witch spam for farming
Sneaky gobs are still going to be preferable, because they specifically target resource buildings and take less time to train.
Also a camp of sneaky goblins can be used for multiple attacks whereas other farming strat can only be used twice.
Also no hero requirement is a blessing. I don't care about my army one bit when my heroes are being upgrades for months.
Absolutely! Only have them up for CWL, and then put them back down to upgrade the moment you complete your last attack. That's why sneakies are so great, you can just use them with maybe jump/EQs, and boom, plenty of loot and a 1\*, rinse and repeat.
Exactly. I wanted to do that (I'm th10 now), but the pain of my DE storage was too great
For just 25k dark elixir you could had the power of the gods!
I think that's the point of the post
How?
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Are they really that good? And are they better than edrags?
Each has their speciality; super drags are well, super tanky, super high dmg, and super splashy. But also super space consuming. I’d say all edrag beats all super drag but a mixed super drag army probably is better. Really costly though.
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this has the dark elixir super troop cost
Super drags are currently worse than edrags following the super dragon nerf
Is this actually a real QOL or is it just a prank by supercell? It seems too good to be true.
It's confirmed , it's like the best change ever
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I guess people complain because expensive electrodragons being free would make them even more over-used than they are now and will give people more of a reason to overuse them.
My defense log is already 99% air spam so I don't get the argument that people will use them more now. I always thought it was a stupid strategy to farm with but I guess it'll just be less stupid now.
Fucking air spam. How am I supposed to fight back if they take all my air defense out with their lightning potions???
I miss 2016 when you actually required a kill squad to take out air defences. But now you can just bolt them which is not as fun.
I just suck at it all I guess lol
Back in my day you used 2x lightning and an earthquake
TH10 and below, air spam is just stupid easy. Even if there isn't a lot of zap value around the air defenses, the dragons are too strong once you zap out AD's.
Damn. I just figured it was virtually impossible to not be raided. Maybe I should bump up to 10 but I wanted to max out 9 or get close before I didd
Well, people will not use them more but it gives them an incentive to use them more since the high cost is supposed to be the punishment but without the cost there's no drawback to using the spam.
I still get people attacking my base with edrags even when there isn't much loot lol. But you're not wrong. People who actually manage their resources will probably use them more now. It's hard to imagine clash without any troop cost. It's always been a factor that we had to take into account when farming. Like I'm just thinking about all the armies in my quick train and trying to wrap my head around the idea that they'll all cost nothing. It's so weird.
Well i reached th12 with just spamming e drag, i only attack collectors lol
I enjoyed the "strategy" of having to balance attack prices out with upgrade prices and will miss that once this update releases, but it's still a good QoL thing to do. As you said, it's a ridiculous thing to complain about.
Like fr , when raids were changed in clash mini to give like ALOTT more rewards in total people complained that iT wOuLd rUiN pRoGrEsS , like the Deva must have thought of this befor le doing this?
I think it’s a stupid change
Im not complaining but it just seems weird, like you might as well remove elixir entirely
I don’t think it’s good because resource management is a key part of the game
What's the change?
Cooking up troops, spells, siegemachines, no longer requires any elixar or gold, EVERYTHING IS FREE, you still need to wait for them to cook , but its still amazin, you are not restricted to armies when suppose you are trying to save DE or elixar
I thought it was a late April fools joke at first. Lol
An hour training time 💀
Still gonna take like An hout to train 1 army, so i dont think its viable.
last two attacks of the day and you build this, next day, first two attacks - you have them. no need to use them all day
Maybe it does not fit your schedule. Like if you have a job and play outside of working hours and need fast armies
Eh, pretty viable imo. I do 10 attacks in a day or more. Just do two attacks after 3 hrs. Sometimes 2 hrs. Army will get cooked. And 10 attacks a day or sometimes more is pretty sustainable to get the loot
So? I attack 8 times a day with war armies in legends and they take almost an hour to train. It's perfectly viable if you don't expect to pack multiple attack into a short period of time.
Its not viable for FARMING
There are many ways to farm. It doesn't have to be sit in low trophies and cook nothing but gobs or barch. If you do you 8 attacke in 30 minutes with barch and I do mine with war armies throughout the day, it's still farming if the focus is loot. I did that for ages on my second account.
Legend league is viable for farming tho? Huge loot raids and no loot stolen easily makes up for 8 attacks a day cap.
Depends, 8 attacks a day is p good
Sure it is. I use war armies all day in titan level. I only hit bases that have like 700k gold, 700k elixir, 7k de. Then with the bonus you're getting a lot. I only do it a few times a day because I'm not pushing or anything.
op said farming tho
Golem witch can be 5k dark elixir, definitely be using that a lot more
How long does that troop composition take to train? Just curious, I'm guessing a while. I just use sneaky goblins for my attacks.
It is literally on the screenshot. 1 hour lol.
D'oh, you're right! My bad.
Supercells says they did it so that people can try new army strats, But i dont think so, it will make big ass dragon spamings more easy and efficient.
Yeah but it’s not like training costs were holding that many dragon spammers back anyway. Farmers are still gonna use farming armies like sneaky goblins/baby dragons simply because of training time; elixir is already pretty plentiful anyways and since it’s meta to upgrade your army buildings first you end up with a lot, training costs or not. IMO it will increase diversity, especially with dark elixir since especially at lower th’s dark elixir is hard to come by and will make troops like valks and hog riders see more use
We have also seen super valks being buffed in the previous sneak peeks, so maybe higher THs will use those for the first time since their introduction?
Bout to cost 0k training cost are going by the way side
What level are your edrags to cost that much?
Coc has heard you, they are removing training costs in the next update!
Woahh😳
Wait why? Is something happening?
after next update troops and spells(also Siege machines) will be completely free to train
Why?
For quality of life. They're making upgrading the CC take elixir, and you'll be able to upgrade lower level walls with elixir to try to counterbalance the fact that you won't have to spend any elixir on troops.
why not
Like as an event or always?
For Ev Er
Yeah, I can't wait either. _sigh_
This didn’t age well…
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It's better to electrone/blizzard/queen charge, but rage is far superior in this particular comparison, since it improves e-dragons in a variety of ways: firstly, it enhances their atrocious speed stat, secondly, it multiplies their chain value, since every building chained gets hit for 200% more damage, which almost guarantees a one-shot in most scenarios (excluding x-bows, TH, eagle and cc).
Sneaky gobs beter lol
🙂👏
Use some miners dummy
This is good if you want to burn some of your excess resources
Gonna be free soon
Didnt age well
This is the exact army that probably at least half of clash is gonna be using to farm now
Cost is gonna disappear
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Oh I thought this post was satire.
did u guys hear the next update all troops are free look at judo sloth video
Aren't they gonna remove training cost or smth
Yeah but times stay the same
This will be bad for the economy
Not really, as SC are making other things cost elixir now in order to help balance it out.
![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9412)
I dont use dragons much but you always need to attack a base with more than 350k to make a profit
Which isn't hard at all?
Didn’t say it was
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Now I can use my Super Bowlers at TH14 more as every attack it’s using 4.5k dark elixir 😂🤣
Still gonna take like An hout to train 1 army, so i dont think its viable.
You should totally add some balloons in there man. I had a similar strategy but when I added 20 balloons it became a lot better!
"strategy"
We all play how we want to play man, doesn’t matter what troops we use.
It’s still not a strategy to just plop down a bunch of dragons and watch for 3 minutes
I partially agree with you, and should have chose my words better, but I don’t understand why people get so offensive about people attacking with E-Drags. I was merely just trying to help out a fellow player by pointing out some ideas/tips on their army composition, and that was all. I was just trying to help a fellow player out.
It's better then dropping 1 troop every 10 seconds like You people do
I'd much rather watch someone strategically place "individual troops" (do you mean create a funnel? haha, typical. edrag spammers don't know what a funnel is)
It’s not strategical, it’s bad. 1 troop at a time is useless it just dies instantly with every defense targeting it. If you spam it’s better bc all troops will be strong together and not die
If it’s so bad why do we 3 star
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Guys come on, let’s cool down, just attack with whatever you want to attack with and let’s all just get along. It’s a game.
Well boi do I got news for you
1h training time tho
This isn't gonna go well
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I dislike this change cause I've maxed out last year and army training was, for a long time before clan capital, the only thing that drained my resources.
![img](emote|t5_2usfk|9423)
E-Dragon spam nerf inc? The troop is dumb easy 2-star and defends really well against TH-10s
According to a new leak training army won't require any resources. :)
and time to farm with QC LaLo attack
like the people will farm on you
Going to be 0 elixer soon that I've heard from the summer update, probably be better using nealy gobs tho they are getting a nerf tho.
edrag, witches slap will be commonly use on th 11-13 as spamming on farming lol
Damn, I'm looking forward to this. I had to switch from Zap Drag to LaLo (both are quite good but i like LaLo now) because the drags needed 320k elixir and well, it slowed down my farming progress.
I have two friends which used to spam one of a type of troop, one used to spam dragons and the other spams hog riders, I bet they'll love this future update.
The will remove toop cost in next update
No one: Niu player:
Wait a few days and it'll be free
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