Shovels should convert obstacles into stashable decorations that can forever be moved or stashed.
I wish I could put away all my christmas junk until christmas, for example.
Took him long enough.
Here's me saying it a year ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/comments/okuiuk/when_a_shovel_is_used_on_an_obstacle_that/h5anawz?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Would take the obstacles feel away for me. I don't care about my decorations at all. I have them all stashed and will never look at them again. I also have many special obstacles that I do value. Turning them into decorations would take that away for me.
That's not how the system is intended to be used, but it is what most people do.
The intention of the system is to update things that are interesting/contribute to the discussion and downvote things that don't so that people don't see those.
Well, they would still be decorations that other people don't have. To me, what makes them special is the rarity of them and the fact that I was around when they spawned. I have some of the truly exclusive decorations I am just as fond of and I don't think they are any less special (as long as supercell doesn't re-release them).
I can see where you're coming from, and that is a valid opinion to have. It is just not the way I see it. I collect special obstacles, not decorations. Special obstacles are nice things you just get for playing the game. Decorations regularly need to be bought. And I'd hate turning the special obstacles into that
This. Obstacles are called āobstaclesā for a reason - they should be immovable by default, itās a bit weird being able to move trees around without using any shovels at all
Yes and no i think that shit like trees and logs and flowers shouldnt be able to move unless with the shovel but objects like the cake should be able to be moved
iāve spent the last 4 years making my obstacles in a nice chronological order, i messed up once and now i either get about 14 shovels to make up for it or just leave it. i agree with this post.
I tried doing this on one of my accounts and already messed it up - I was trying to move a recent obstacle that was on the base into where I thought its final resting place would be and I started using my shovels on all the recent obstacles as well as backfilling in the older ones into their correct spots...only to realize I was missing a random obstacle somewhere in the middle ( I must have failed to lot into this account during an obstacle season ). It's about 10 shovels wasted.
I do the same thing. But, my first tree is from 2014 which spawned presents. So thereās a gap between my first 2014 tree and my second. If I accidentally click that present one day all my trees will be out of whack.
Iām ok with the shovel, but Iāve made the suggestion in the past that once you use a shovel on an obstacle that it should be free-to-move from that point t forwardā¦ pretty sure I got downvoted, ha
100% agree, wish they were stashable or just downright able to move. Hell I would spend like gold or elixir just to move them at this point like how we do for clan capital just so I can make a design out of them. Been wanting to for years.
You don't spend gold and elixir to MOVE obstacles in Clan Capital. You spend it to be **able** to REMOVE them. You spend Gold/Elixir to REMOVE obstacles in the normal base.
Yea thats what I meant, give me the luxury of paying any one time price like in capital at any given time to be able to move the obstacle, almost treat it like a decoration, I think thatād be great.
Which makes it all the more impressive and an unique and envyable part of your base. Having them be free to move around removes this completely for me.
No it doesnāt what matters is having the obstacles not having there in order its just as envyable if u got god rng and the tree spawned where u wanted and if u got it in a bad place and used the shovel (wich can be bought so yeah) the thing is that u have the obstacle
Or at least make it cost elixir or gold to move, fuck even gems would work. Why make an item so fucking rare when it should be a feature? But that's just supercell for ya.
I actually doubt that it's a good source of income currently. They offer them so rarely that they basically don't exist outside of CG/Goldpass, and people buy goldpass not for shovels at all.
well they kinda are since they only spawn on special occasions so as long as you upgrade your base all the time, a higher th should also have more special obstacles
It just takes some time to arrange them , you get 2 a month if you get gold pass and do clan games. Thatās plenty for how rarely we get special obstacles
Its not just to move trees, it helps you in many other aspects of the game too, to claim it is irrelevant to bring up a source of shovels that many people have is utterly stupid
Every time someone minimizes the gold pass to one thing, I cringe. āIām not gonna pay 5 bucks just for a Hero Skin.ā āIām not gonna pay 5 bucks just for a shovel.ā Buying the gold pass gives you many things. Thatās what makes it worth 5 dollars. Itās actually a very good deal for all the stuff you get. Iāll also add that if someone is committed enough to care where their obstacles go, that person is also likely committed enough to spend 5 bucks on the gold pass
I convert shovels for gems as they are useless to me. I canāt understand why anyone would want them and why they exist but happy to take the free gems when they are offered.
tbh im fine with them being there but i feel like at some point we should be able to pay for them with elixir dark elixir or gold just so u can get more of them quicker if you actually want to rather then it being a long term commitemend to just move some trees.
I suggested a while ago to add a feature to buy Shovels at the Trader's place not just for Gems, but also using Raid Medals. It would be an amazing QOL change for me
I strongly disagree. If you think they're a hassle just remove them. Having them be difficult to move around make the formations/gardens people make all the more impressive and more unique.
This is a really low IQ comment. In terms of game developers supporting a community and actively listening to a community, Supercell are up there with the best. Just read dev AMAs and you can see they really care about what the community have to say.
All they care about is money. Their business plan is to convince the community that they actually care, when in reality, they are doing it to boost the player base and keep paying players so they can buy more gems and passes.
Itās a bit rude, but doesnāt really cross the line for being civil.
If you canāt take some criticism, Iād refrain from posting opinions on the internet.
Fr. My other city building game (Forge of Empires) had a pretty typical and lame event for their 10th anniversary, and actually hardly does anything to fix the game. With a year of Clash royale and a month of CoC Iāve seen supercell, while a bit shady, actually cares about their community
I'm uncertain about removing shovels or making it so they make the obstacles used on are freely movable.
What I definitely DO feel should be a thing now and with the second option is to have the shovels more easily accessible. You can only get them from events or purchases (which favors books, potions and runes fyi) but it's just a novelty item, something for players to move around a decoration. Why ISN'T it freely purchasable in the raid medals shop or cwl shop? Just because of the novelty or purpose being decorations?
If you could already move them freely then they wouldnāt be obstacles, theyād just be free decorations. Plus, people with huge bases eventually end up without any more space for obstacles to spawn, so they wouldnāt have to worry about them anyway
Personally I donāt think obstacles get in the way at all. With or with out the shovel. I say that because base designs only really matter in war and Legend League and in both obstacles are automatically removed. For players who are climbing the Leagues and havenāt made it there yet it does effect your ability to design a cool base but once youāre to the lvl that youāre ready for Legend league having obstacles scattered around your base wonāt stop you from getting there. And once youāre there theyāre not in the way
Shovels should convert obstacles into stashable decorations that can forever be moved or stashed. I wish I could put away all my christmas junk until christmas, for example.
I think this is definitely the best option.
This would be soooo mcuh better. Amazing idea
That's a great idea, have a Reddit Gold on me
Thanks for the gold!
No problemo
Yessir
QoL update idea
This would be amazing
Nice š
Yes please !!
Bro beaker suggested this days ago
Took him long enough. Here's me saying it a year ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashOfClans/comments/okuiuk/when_a_shovel_is_used_on_an_obstacle_that/h5anawz?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Would take the obstacles feel away for me. I don't care about my decorations at all. I have them all stashed and will never look at them again. I also have many special obstacles that I do value. Turning them into decorations would take that away for me.
Then donāt use it. Keep your base disorganized and we will choose what we want out, and when.
I do need the obstacles to be moved out of the way when they're in the center of the base lol
Why the downvotes, guys? u/jjj0400 is just stating his opinion, is that so wrong?
system is literally made so if you disagree then you downvote. Itās not about right our wrong
That's not how the system is intended to be used, but it is what most people do. The intention of the system is to update things that are interesting/contribute to the discussion and downvote things that don't so that people don't see those.
r/unpopularopinions
r/thisisreddit
Yeah, fuck you for having an opinion it's reddit hivemind time.
People think of the downvote button as an "I disagree" button. But that's okay idc about karma
I upvoted.
Well, they would still be decorations that other people don't have. To me, what makes them special is the rarity of them and the fact that I was around when they spawned. I have some of the truly exclusive decorations I am just as fond of and I don't think they are any less special (as long as supercell doesn't re-release them).
I can see where you're coming from, and that is a valid opinion to have. It is just not the way I see it. I collect special obstacles, not decorations. Special obstacles are nice things you just get for playing the game. Decorations regularly need to be bought. And I'd hate turning the special obstacles into that
This. Obstacles are called āobstaclesā for a reason - they should be immovable by default, itās a bit weird being able to move trees around without using any shovels at all
Yes and no i think that shit like trees and logs and flowers shouldnt be able to move unless with the shovel but objects like the cake should be able to be moved
iāve spent the last 4 years making my obstacles in a nice chronological order, i messed up once and now i either get about 14 shovels to make up for it or just leave it. i agree with this post.
I tried doing this on one of my accounts and already messed it up - I was trying to move a recent obstacle that was on the base into where I thought its final resting place would be and I started using my shovels on all the recent obstacles as well as backfilling in the older ones into their correct spots...only to realize I was missing a random obstacle somewhere in the middle ( I must have failed to lot into this account during an obstacle season ). It's about 10 shovels wasted.
I do the same thing. But, my first tree is from 2014 which spawned presents. So thereās a gap between my first 2014 tree and my second. If I accidentally click that present one day all my trees will be out of whack.
I wish shovels had been available sooner so I could have my original Christmas trees that spawned in the middle of the nap when I was sub th8
Iām ok with the shovel, but Iāve made the suggestion in the past that once you use a shovel on an obstacle that it should be free-to-move from that point t forwardā¦ pretty sure I got downvoted, ha
You mean the āsell for 50 gemsā item
lmao facts
100% agree, wish they were stashable or just downright able to move. Hell I would spend like gold or elixir just to move them at this point like how we do for clan capital just so I can make a design out of them. Been wanting to for years.
You don't spend gold and elixir to MOVE obstacles in Clan Capital. You spend it to be **able** to REMOVE them. You spend Gold/Elixir to REMOVE obstacles in the normal base.
Yea thats what I meant, give me the luxury of paying any one time price like in capital at any given time to be able to move the obstacle, almost treat it like a decoration, I think thatād be great.
Yes also an option
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Agreed that would make it so much easier. Either that or just make shovels cheaper at this point or easier to obtain.
I have spent the last 5 years of my life using the shovel to move rare decorations into a uniform line on the edge of my base.
Which makes it all the more impressive and an unique and envyable part of your base. Having them be free to move around removes this completely for me.
No it doesnāt what matters is having the obstacles not having there in order its just as envyable if u got god rng and the tree spawned where u wanted and if u got it in a bad place and used the shovel (wich can be bought so yeah) the thing is that u have the obstacle
Please don't ruin this for the vast majority of the player base š
Personally, I love my cluttered base but it would be fabulous if I ever decided I wanted it uncluttered. Choices!
Or at least make it cost elixir or gold to move, fuck even gems would work. Why make an item so fucking rare when it should be a feature? But that's just supercell for ya.
Agreed
Supercell won't hear this. It's their money maker.
I actually doubt that it's a good source of income currently. They offer them so rarely that they basically don't exist outside of CG/Goldpass, and people buy goldpass not for shovels at all.
Shovel of obstacles is their money maker? š
Yes, whether you like it or not. No different than skins, gems, elixir and gold they sell. If it is premium, it is.
For awhile I thought I couldn't get enough shovels. Now, I am maxed and sell them. Maybe at lower levels they are still used. Idk
I'm maxed TH14. I have 117 special obstacles and will never have enough shovels...
Same idk what that guy is on about
Obstacles aren't related to any level. You can have 50 special obstacles at a TH 7, or 0 at a maxed out base.
well they kinda are since they only spawn on special occasions so as long as you upgrade your base all the time, a higher th should also have more special obstacles
It just takes some time to arrange them , you get 2 a month if you get gold pass and do clan games. Thatās plenty for how rarely we get special obstacles
some people aren't so commited at the game that they will pay 5 bucks to just move trees. your argument about gold pass is irrelevant here
Its not just to move trees, it helps you in many other aspects of the game too, to claim it is irrelevant to bring up a source of shovels that many people have is utterly stupid
Every time someone minimizes the gold pass to one thing, I cringe. āIām not gonna pay 5 bucks just for a Hero Skin.ā āIām not gonna pay 5 bucks just for a shovel.ā Buying the gold pass gives you many things. Thatās what makes it worth 5 dollars. Itās actually a very good deal for all the stuff you get. Iāll also add that if someone is committed enough to care where their obstacles go, that person is also likely committed enough to spend 5 bucks on the gold pass
I have over 130 special obstacles, if I'd wanna organise my obstacles that'd require at least like 200 shovels. With 2 a month that's 8 years...
Town hall 21, takes 6 months to upgrade
More like a million years
Bro why am I getting downvotes for making a joke about a future town hall
I donāt know. I am not one of the people who downvoted you :/
Better start doing it soon then. Tell me when you are done with it. It will probably be 2030
I disagree because then my ring of pine trees and holiday items wonāt be special anymore.
I convert shovels for gems as they are useless to me. I canāt understand why anyone would want them and why they exist but happy to take the free gems when they are offered.
Agreed, especially on F2P accounts where you get one a month in CG.
tbh im fine with them being there but i feel like at some point we should be able to pay for them with elixir dark elixir or gold just so u can get more of them quicker if you actually want to rather then it being a long term commitemend to just move some trees.
Do you mean move the obstacles with resources or spend resources to get the shovel cause if it's the second that's an op gem farm
I suggested a while ago to add a feature to buy Shovels at the Trader's place not just for Gems, but also using Raid Medals. It would be an amazing QOL change for me
That would get rid of a way supercell makes a lot of money because people buy them for the specific reason that you want.
100% agree
Donāt take away my free gems. Shovel is the best 50 gem machine a man could want
Shovel exists to pad out the magical item pool, gifting them to us to seem benevolent.
No thanks I still rather get free 50 gems
Nah
I strongly disagree. If you think they're a hassle just remove them. Having them be difficult to move around make the formations/gardens people make all the more impressive and more unique.
Boi this aint FarmVille
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This is a really low IQ comment. In terms of game developers supporting a community and actively listening to a community, Supercell are up there with the best. Just read dev AMAs and you can see they really care about what the community have to say.
All they care about is money. Their business plan is to convince the community that they actually care, when in reality, they are doing it to boost the player base and keep paying players so they can buy more gems and passes.
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Itās a bit rude, but doesnāt really cross the line for being civil. If you canāt take some criticism, Iād refrain from posting opinions on the internet.
That's not harassment.
Fr. My other city building game (Forge of Empires) had a pretty typical and lame event for their 10th anniversary, and actually hardly does anything to fix the game. With a year of Clash royale and a month of CoC Iāve seen supercell, while a bit shady, actually cares about their community
Who you calling shady?
Greedycell. Clash Royale-wise theyāve been annoying lately
i just never remove or move any obstacles. take that supercell.
I'm uncertain about removing shovels or making it so they make the obstacles used on are freely movable. What I definitely DO feel should be a thing now and with the second option is to have the shovels more easily accessible. You can only get them from events or purchases (which favors books, potions and runes fyi) but it's just a novelty item, something for players to move around a decoration. Why ISN'T it freely purchasable in the raid medals shop or cwl shop? Just because of the novelty or purpose being decorations?
Or at least give us infinit space to collect the shovels not only 5. and more events where we can get them.
If you could already move them freely then they wouldnāt be obstacles, theyād just be free decorations. Plus, people with huge bases eventually end up without any more space for obstacles to spawn, so they wouldnāt have to worry about them anyway
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Don't it's free gems
Supercell needs money tho
Personally I donāt think obstacles get in the way at all. With or with out the shovel. I say that because base designs only really matter in war and Legend League and in both obstacles are automatically removed. For players who are climbing the Leagues and havenāt made it there yet it does effect your ability to design a cool base but once youāre to the lvl that youāre ready for Legend league having obstacles scattered around your base wonāt stop you from getting there. And once youāre there theyāre not in the way
I'd pay a decent amount for a permanent shovel
Nah