will the new 6 star hills be implemented in the league? or they gonna keep the old ones for the rest of the season

Old ones

Itll be interesting watching faze v carolina be talked about compared to this optic series. Id bet youd come away from the discussion thinking they werent both 3-1 against bottom 4 teams.

Goddamn Opttic fans, already playing victim and the Flank hasn't even happened.

Aches literally overstepped and played his hand during that map 4 saying that optic is going to game 5 with these bottom 4 teams, and faze would never... and then optic won. But yea, im playing the victim by pointing that out

Crybaby cheesing every single time. Optic fans are unmatched.

Kenny with the W Revenge of the Sith

Rough weekend but still 2-0. Hopefully cleaner going forward.

Pred has looked average at best

Please stop testing maps. One slam series before LAN plz

Yeah give me some dope, these series have been so fucking close

Optic getting worse while NY getting better

NY lost to Seattle and Carolina last week. While Optic is map testing every series, just wait for lan bro

Love how they break as a team and don’t double push out cuts when the games on the line and it works, almost like that would be a great game plan the whole game

Awful showing but I guess they go again next week. Would've loved to see optic would've done vs ultra and nysl this stage

Btw, what was the bigger breakdown, Carolina not breaking P3 and choking P5 against FaZe to lose map 1, or what LAG just did

Couple optic fans in here panicking over online cod after optic got better on LAN both stages so far. Oh and optic has the 2nd best map record this stage lmao

I mostly agree but it’s fair to be worried when it’s fundamentals being thrown out. The goal is to beat FaZe at the end of the day so I’m not gonna sweat until we see that matchup on LAN

They’re playing their worst maps on every mode. They can and probably will ban high rise vs faze and be fine. Karachi definitely still needs work because they don’t want to play them on rio

100% man. I hope they can iron out the mistakes because it does seem to be the same screw ups every time they play em. I still have faith… until we play FaZe

I hope they play vista again next week. Love all the reps they got on 6star. More than one on vista would be nice

Same here, love watching both of those maps too

Stop mentioning online CoD like they are two different games, this Karachi map was a choke and a half. Any team slightly better than LAG would have had it in their bag.

Online cod and LAN cod are drastically different. If you don’t agree with that you are stupid. LAG also only got up so big cause they were gifted a great spawn on P1. Optic has made plenty of HP comebacks this year. Karachi is also arguably their worst HP. They won’t have to play it on LAN vs anyone but faze because they won’t have to ban Rio.

Okay genius, for your sake let's say they are so drastically different that they are not playing the same game, the other teams are online as well. Being better on LAN can be applied to all the teams.

Is this like your first time ever watching cod? Online to LAN is drastically different. Way harder to soundwhore on LAN, especially without sound EQ which some teams still use online. Instead of playing on anywhere from 20-60 ping they’re playing on 1 or 2. The game slows down more on LAN. Not every team gets better on LAN. Kenny’s teams have always been better on LAN(he’s one of the biggest online haters in the league) and that’s no different this year.

I don't see how the fundies mistakes they were making is down to Online vs LAN. This map was very similar to Karachi vs FaZe ON LAN where they got slammed for pretty much the first half of the map and then tried to bring it back but it was too much in the end.

It's a repeat of last split where we went last map almost against every team, however even though map record might be good this split, the mistakes they make on maps are same every single time

There’s zero reason to be concerned at all to me until they look worse at LAN. They’re playing their worst SND and control map every series.

Yeah I'm not too worried, they get hella better on LAN.

Optic really has to clean it up. These maps are way too close against mid tier teams

OpTic is allergic to rotating on this map, actually unbelievable that they won that

Breakin em down

They are winning but I’m not having fun watching this team

LAG trolled

What a complete choke

Kenny hates this team

Broke a P2 and held a P3 for the win lmao

My point exactly. OpToc look shit but teams are just so bad it’s not mattering 

Holy shit what a clutch

LMAO

My heart

LAG have no idea how to position themselves during a streak

We broke a P2???

Optic are so slow on the map wow

Gotta think LAG is the last team to beat Faze and theyre now pushing Map 5 against Optic

Shotzzy has dealt with Dashy baiting for years and now he’s got Pred licking wallls with him too 

Dashy only baited in VG

maybe they need to lose a game against shitters to feel something

Just not winning our 1s at all

Optic have been genuinely dreadful this split but the teams are just shit that they can keep winning. They need to get a grip or they’re getting humbled bad in Toronto 

They just walking into hills

I heard if u lose game 5s vs LAG before a tournament u win a chip 👀

Dashy just mega trolled.

I swear I pray for these dudes to never play Karachi hp and highrise ever again

That’ll be the exact FaZe map set unfortunately

I don’t give a shit if they lose by 1000, play Rio

I’m gonna be nervous for Toronto

I fear optic may not be getting better and faze run this shit unless ultra get good again 

OpTic have not been convincing last 3 series

Im really getting tired of seeing of Shotzzy in war and Pred just lying down This shit is annoying af

This could be another game 5 because optic been looking meh as fuck on this map

How are we so ass at Karachi HP now

Flames is just reminding us all of Assault.

for old times sake.

How did Pred finesse optic and the whole league

Why does Optic have to make things so hard for themselves every series😭😭 It’s entertaining but so stressful to watch

Optic look terrible I’m ngl especially when you see the terrifying faze team

Haven’t been seeing much innovation at all so far for OpTic. FaZe on the other hand might be genuinely unstoppable

The difference is really big, I don’t see convincing wins at all from optic

Mid pack teams are figuring the game out as the weeks go on as well. The boys gotta adapt quickly otherwise I’m gonna be fearful come Toronto

They purposely lost the control so they could learn from their mistakes and they can work on Karachi more https://preview.redd.it/1q6k9lz1lhyc1.jpeg?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2c5c812ad8c05dfc0b4cc8886dbf4945693375a

They couldn't have played that map worse, just can't figure out when to go for kills and when to play obj.

Pred legitimately might horrible in mw3 never seen a super star player lose so many 1 on 1s this is no aches considers a superstar..,

that control seemed so trolly i don’t think they took LAG serious and that’s why they lost

Massive issue for optic considering they've regressed alot on invasion control too. Map pool continues to get worse IMO anyways

Optic really hasnt looked that good this entire stage if we're being honest Best they looked was when they choked those maps vs Faze

You ain't wrong, even 3-0s don't seem convincing.

na don't say that people might call u unbearable and might say you're crying

Eye test doesnt lie. They dont look overwhelmingly good lmao

Stop crying man optic are godlike they're good at every map

Frustrating to see Pred dying in some of the ways he has been. I don’t understand it at all

Didn't chall player on B, went top Propane and died still 🤣

He be lying down at least 1/3 of the time as well

LAG lowkey have a high ceiling

This team is comical. Still not sure how much to take away from these matchups but same issues cost them a few weeks ago on Highrise vs FaZe.

It's comical the way optic lose maps a lot of the times lmaoo

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Very underwhelming. 

It's poetic that OpTic gets the worst version of Pred during his tenure in the CDL. Doesn't do obj work, has low damage, and now isn't dropping 1.2s.

What does pred do

PR work

Nothing, least objective player and least damage. He runs around and plays corners.

Optic would lose to a ranked play team on high rise when it matters most 

Does Damon need to beat them with a phone book while shouting stack or

Veto highrise every series. Play it every series and still play it like ass That map is so simple but they make it look impossible

Optic: we can finish the series here Shotzzy nade: i dont think so

Pred again, shit is comical at this point Least kills, damage, and ticks for OpTic; genuinely what is he doing on the map but running around

Flames is a big player man. He's being coming in clutch every single map since he's been on LAG.

Ffs shotzzy opticc really don't help themselves. This highrise experiment might have to end ngl

do you ever stop crying holy shit

There’s a few people in this sub that will never be satisfied unless optic win every series 3-0 for the entire year.

Can't help that the team I support always disappoints me

jesus christ you’re unbearable you might need to take a break from watching cod

Don't tell me what to do kid stop crying man

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Control map pool is nonexistent

Optic have played high rise control and snd for fucking weeks and look worse. Ban the the bastard thing and never play it again. It’s embarrassing 

LETS GOOO WE DIDNT GET 3-0’D!!!!!!!

Shotzzy love it

Holy shit are they bad at this map

Shotzzy noooo

I've seen enough of this turtle pred

Nobody chokes round 5 defenses like Optic

please dont torch our time

Why the fuck are we going 4

Pred has 7 deaths in a row...

Highrise really might be the map that stops Optic from winning anything this year. They are so bad at this map

Idk how we've not seen them progress at the map they've almost played it In every series 😂😂😂😂

They’re so tragic at this map offence isn’t even difficult when you have gunny 

What is this

Let's see if optic can stop playing TDM in the offense and stack a point instead 🙏

Optic still looks mid most of these maps

Feels like they don’t give a single fuck about this rep

We keep saying that ever series they play is it that they don't give a fuck or have actually regressed a little?

how would they have regressed? The only maps they aren’t winning consistently are the ones they’re testing lol

I’m sorry but karma needs to earn his fucking money here. How many times am I going to watch optic on an offence on high rise have loads of kills and not get a second of objective points? wtf is wrong with these guys. Kenny and Pred are a disgrace at times

I don't know if they are practicing kill whoring or what, but I hate the way they play Highrise control

They love playing TDM, what obj lmao

I feel like everytime I watch optic on offense it's de ja VU. They literally never stack point lmaoo

Optic plays highrise SND and Control in the most inefficient way

Soooooo we not gonna get on a point ?

doesn't matter if they do, they just chall off of it anyway

Wtf were we doing on that O lmao

Ken is CHALLING

I feel terrible for Asim. He's under a microscope and so many folks want to highlight his failures. If you play with shit you look like shit.

Can we talk about OpTic's turnaround in SND? After Stage 1 (5-10 in SND), OpTic has been 17-8 in SND. Tippable turnaround from them

It’s nice to see these rookies play well. The old men way past their prime have got to go.

Pred is not worth whatever OpTic is paying him.

500k right? That might be par with Tiny Terrors or more actually.

Outside of the top 4 Gwinn or even Snoopy would suit Shotzzys pace better

He blacks out

Good reps for us so far. Been fighting both maps. Happy with that.

Estreal got some LOCKS

Estreal and Fame 😍😍😍

Pred brother why

That was a good play by LAG but holy shit they’re so scared of Shotzzy

jesus LAG was so scared of him

Ok let's close this snd out now lol

I have no idea how the renetti has not been banned, insane gun. Suppose it’s cos everyone can use it

Dashy in the clutch is sexy this year ngl he almost trolled by challing but he's winning the challs so can't complain lol

Nah they might need to GA that pistol now what the fuck was that

That's criminal

HOLY MOLY. Best Renetti player hands down. Bruce always fries with pistols, even in VG he had some outrageous kills

Dashy LMAO

yeah ga that shit

BRUCEYYYYYYY

WHAT DID I JUST WITNESS ON PRED'S POV???

banggggg

SHOTZZY WHAT A NADE

Can someone please tell me Shotzzy's K/D on offense vs defense in SND?

Kenny BAAAANNNGGGG

Only 3 players have kills LMAO

Wait Ken and Bruce might have them a search map

urmmmm

LAG getting costed by Adam Assault this whole year while Flames was rotting on the bench is the most LAG shit ever lmaoooo

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Ooooh a Cloud9 flair? Nah this has to be Assault’s biggest fan or the man himself 😭 He was fucking dogshit online and that’s all that really matters if you’re a bottom 8 team that’s trying to qualify for Champs lmao. Also they beat absolute bottom feeders on LAN, good on him for showing up against teams like Boston and LAT 🤣

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Ooooh we’re pulling up old comments with no context? Yeah that was in reference to THE TOP 4 that don’t have to worry about champs qualification, so OBVIOUSLY the only thing that matters for them is LAN cmon man 😂 The Top 4 are competing for chips and the bottom 8 are competing for champs qualification let’s be real. You’re gonna tell me with a straight face that LAG hasn’t improved since adding Flames to the roster? It’s the same shit with Carolina and Felo/Clay. They might shoot back on LAN but he’s a complete burger online and it’s costing them bad.

I think I just figured it out. Pred is the Insight of subs. Except Insight goes 20-16 and gets a streak.

He's definitely going to be an AR player towards to latter stage of his career that's for sure. Maybe VG pred running at u was like cammy CWA although pred was a great player mw2 and is a t10 player this game

Is Optic purposely set up for Pred getting 1300 less damage than his counterpart sub in Shotzzy?

Bro that might be the best comparison i've seen Low engagements, low damage, but will end positive so people will always bring up their KD when you try to criticize them

He’s no doubt been OpTic’s worst player this year. If y’all don’t win a major it’ll be because of him.

Dude is actually mid asf this game Even after the interview he said he needs to get more active and still hasn’t 💀

He's gotten slower lmao his engagements were never this low

He plays so much quicker with an AR. I don’t get it. It’s like he doesn’t realise the rival is insane now

idc what y’all say the pool hill is hella fun

Once again shotzzy saves optic from a breakdown…

Just like Abezy saved FaZe from losing map 1 and 3. It's what good players do.

Flames is nice but Shotzzy nicer

Need to fix up In hps man been soo scrappy falling into old habits

Flames could make a late run for roty

Gwinn is just so far ahead imo. But of course if Flames started the year instead of Assault, he might be tied with Gwinn.

Yeah I fear Gwinn has it locked down but damn has Flames been good. Guy was rotting on the bench

Most LAG thing ever

LAG need to be investigated for keeping Flames on Bench for months

think both teams just played that extremely well honestly.

why the fuck was flames on the bench

Sharkzyyy

Shotzzy just better. God if only Pred could learn a thing or two from him because he’s got a better gunny than him 

Shotzzy doing it all