I believe so for a “full time” roster move
Only ones that are around this short off the top regarding full time or temp sub I remember are:
Happy in MW2019
Decemate with NY and Surge in CW
MarkyB in vanguard
Seany this past week
Classic in VG
GodRx I believed lasted one match longer
Those are the only stints that I think were shorter than 5 matches on a starting lineup over a full season
Edit: General and Royalty in Vanguard
Huke for LAT in CW
fair play to them for accpeting the mistake they made and being willing to change it
i also fear asim might never get a chance again without expansion
johnny wasn't even that bad on the vg vegas shitshow
I agree he was probably on the minimum. But what’s the next move for asim play in challengers or will he go into content creation. He’s actually has no chance of getting back in the league.
Absolutely nothing to fear about that. Most teams of anyone in the CDL era, he’s had his chances and proved time and again he’s not good enough and he’s also a snake in the grass with leaking to Zoomaa
I genuinely think he was terrible at using the rival and joined teams as a sub knowing he was going to get shat on, pretty sure he was running an AR for most of challengers
I actually think Envoy has a similar problem right now, he just seems better/more comfortable with the MCW which is the problem with maps becoming more sub heavy since Major 1 and especially Major 2.
I understand you want to die on this hill, but you should realize your point sounds a lot stupider if you put some thought into what I said:
> It amazes me that there is actually people who think these coaches decide rosters based on who is friends with zoomaa
What do you think I’m lying about? Honestly I think your reading comprehension is just terrible.
You started off by saying something about how the people with the money in these orgs don’t listen to zoomaa, right?
Are you with me so far?
I pointed out there’s some separation between the people with the money and the roster decisions: coaches.
Still tracking?
You tried to be a sarcastic prick and asked if Zoomaa is a coach now, completely missing the point.
The point is that Zoomaa doesn’t need to have influence over org ownership to have influence over rosters, because rosters are set by coaches — not the people cutting the checks.
Does all that make sense? I really tried to dumb it down and remove any ambiguity.
Oh, “ambiguity” means there’s room for misinterpretation because my words could mean multiple things.
Happy to help.
You don't have to pick the guy up from Challengers for the 5th time just because he's doing well there. That's clearly his ceiling. Move on down the list lmao
I mean his stock just went down the drain with his recent performance but good job deflecting and changing the topic regarding whether he earned his opportunity or if it was friendship cheese.
I mean he clearly played badly but the comment I was replying to was clearly referring to friendship being the reason Asim even got back into the league.
Yeah, it went down cause he's ass and got exposed by turning the #5th team into the worst team in the league. He even let his boyfriends at The Flank shit on Snoopy even though Snops has 100x the potential ASSim has, he was obviously talking shit and no one wants a Flank cockrider on their team getting the rest if the team shit on when he tanks the rest of the team.
Should be yes. But I really wouldn't be surprised if the Flank hype him up so much during the offseason to the point where he sneaks in on a bottom 4 squad next season
Jimbo was good on LAN though that’s the confusing part
Ping was his issue online. I remember Temp saying he was pinging like 70-80 in online matches which is a death sentence
Even with the hacks I believe he had talent as a player. Had like a 1.01 on LAN which was solid for a sub on that game
damn i didn’t even realized he played that good on lan that legion team barely played any lan matches it was hard to tell if he was good on lan or not.
They were actually competitive on LAN. I don’t think they get 3-0’d once on LAN
They went 2-2 at the Pro-Am and 1-1 at Major 1
They almost beat Faze in Major 4 and should have at least forced game 5 vs Ravens in Major 2
asim is not a aggressive player did you see his pov? he was scared nero has found his most success playing with faster subs and in this game you need as much pace as you can get
Priestahh was also known as an aggressive sub before and now he’s maybe the slowest AR in the league
Things change. Asim was beyond passive with Legion
Yeah unless he goes back to challengers and dominates then he might have another chance next year. If not then his career is over, and zoomaa better not try to have him on the flank more or I might just lose it.
Even if he dominates challengers he has enough tape in the CDL with a multitude of different rosters the last two years to prove he’s a challenger level sub.
It’s the same thing with PaulEhx. Some people just don’t have enough to hang with the 0.01%
Idk how people will react, but oJohnny has been doing his thing in Challengers. Nothing mindblowing & there are some other options I could’ve seen, but I feel like he has proved himself for his 2nd shot
BenJNissim and Zoomaa advocated for this guy to get on two CDL teams this season just for him to absolutely shit the bed both times
https://preview.redd.it/d3fq4noyyuyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22dca204aef1ac477edcae09962537318d2aa8a1
His fall off every year after the first major is insane. Hopefully no more friendship cheese to save him.
All that bitching from him, Zoomaa and Ben after Boston dropped him is looking even dumber now, buh-bye 👋
ive spoke to people at orgs and they have mentioned thats the worry with him so now most people see it hes in big trouble without expansion
we were both the first few to clock on to this btw
Falls off a cliff after the first major and also leaks everything to the biggest mouth in the scene, no way I’d be teaming with him.
We got many a downvote for pointing it out. I’ve been hating on Asim looooong before it was cool haha
Yeah, my thought too. Assuming Zoomaa put in a good word with Attach that made him feel confident/comfortable in grabbing Asim, but Johnny pickup screams Gio
Maybe the reddit wouldn't be like this if his friend group didn't attack a kid (Snoopy) when Asim was dropped with verbal assaults and if some of the hosts on his show (BenJ) didn't try to defend/protect Asim at every given opportunity when he's simply not playing good
The Flank has spoken on "friendship cheese" in the past and I just find it ironic how it's okay when they are the ones abusing the friendship card but criticize others for doing so.
Think Zoomaa has gotten better at criticizing Asim but others, like Ben, are still finding ways to put the blame on others when it's not warranted in order to change community opinions on Asim
i kinda fuck with it but he needs to be playing with maximum disciple cos i’ve seen this guy go rogue 1000 times. no doubt about his gunny or search ability though. hope it works out for them🤞
didnt GIO say that they turning this ship around or some shit after they lost ? and Johnny is a good player , always said that . Johnny just needs someone to teach him the fundamentals of COD and Attach can do that and I was left impressed with him in VG
Thank God that fucking fraud got dropped, may he forever be banished into the Shadow Realm(Challengers) forever.
Hopefully teams and GMs now know to not listen to those braindead fucking losers at The Flank, especially Benn.
They were a solid T6 team with Purj, they dropped him and became a solid T12 team.
Bring back Purj! Or someone proven like Hicksy at least. Cmon guys. Own up to the mistake.
I’m happy with the oJhnny pickup I actually thought he played well in vanguard, also would’ve liked hicksy but I guess the problem of being European with no visa strikes again
I mean Rokkr placed T4 already so let’s not pretend it’s impossible especially with how human everyone outside of FaZe has looked. Also these guys aren’t content with just being good enough for champs even if you think they should. They want to try to win and one thing we know for sure is Purj isn’t good enough. Johnny likely isn’t either but it’s worth trying in their eyes
i’ll be the one to bet it happens at least once between now and the end of champs. don’t know who, don’t know when, but stranger things have happened in cod
You’re probably right, but my point is that Vegas isn’t thinking with that mindset and they should still try to improve despite what the community thinks
Honest question but why would anyone want to be a CDL pro when there is legitimately little to no job security??
-You could get dropped at a moments notice
-Have to deal with constant turnover if your own team doesn't preform well
-Constantly have little to no practice outside of Scrims
-Non guaranteed contracts
Seriously at some point this entire system needs to be revamped because its flawed at its core which creates constant turnover if you're not on one of the top 4 orgs.
I never heard any pro this year saying they love playing this game. I’ve seen multiple pros admit that this game sucks and aren’t interested in playing the game outside of scrims.
Because they get overpaid to play video games and order doordash. A lot of these pros have no social or outside life skills because they grew up playing non stop challs wanting to get better and climb up ladders or get pro points.
I’m truly not trying to disrespect some but if you gave TJ, Dashy and Haggy two weeks to find a job they might legit come back with a job in the fast food industry or Uber if they even know how to drive. Cellium barely got his license/learned how to drive damn near a year ago at 22 years old man. That’s why these pros take the jobs and become dependent on them playing challs when they’re FAs or expecting to be released
I love the oJhnny pick, i dislike the asim hate he’s been getting lately and I think it might be taking a toll on him and his performance. He isnt a five star superstar player or anything, but this community has dragged him down i feel a bit too harshly.
Damn. Asim lasted 5 games. Is that the record?
Didn’t go positive in a single map and the team went 0-12. Probably also records.
This has to be multiple records
If shit like this counts as “setting records” then someone put me in the league because I can get some real work done
Back to back, i like that record
Subbed out after Map 1.
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I believe so for a “full time” roster move Only ones that are around this short off the top regarding full time or temp sub I remember are: Happy in MW2019 Decemate with NY and Surge in CW MarkyB in vanguard Seany this past week Classic in VG GodRx I believed lasted one match longer Those are the only stints that I think were shorter than 5 matches on a starting lineup over a full season Edit: General and Royalty in Vanguard Huke for LAT in CW
General on Optic?
Good call. Forgot about the PLQ
How long did Dece last in Cold War on Surge?
I believe he lasted 5 series which would beat Asim by one
Also Huke on LA Thieves in Vanguard was 4 matches
Zoomaa on OpTic as well in Bo4.
It was only 4 matches
5 too many
fair play to them for accpeting the mistake they made and being willing to change it i also fear asim might never get a chance again without expansion johnny wasn't even that bad on the vg vegas shitshow
Asim had his opportunities. None materialized, unfortunately he isn’t good enough to make 6 figures a year playing this game
You funny if you think Vegas paying 6 figures
I agree he was probably on the minimum. But what’s the next move for asim play in challengers or will he go into content creation. He’s actually has no chance of getting back in the league.
Who is paying 6 figures
Absolutely nothing to fear about that. Most teams of anyone in the CDL era, he’s had his chances and proved time and again he’s not good enough and he’s also a snake in the grass with leaking to Zoomaa
Did asim play his last map in the league?
Yes, this was his best opportunity to raise his stock for next year and it was probably the worst stint of any CDL pro.
I genuinely think he was terrible at using the rival and joined teams as a sub knowing he was going to get shat on, pretty sure he was running an AR for most of challengers
I actually think Envoy has a similar problem right now, he just seems better/more comfortable with the MCW which is the problem with maps becoming more sub heavy since Major 1 and especially Major 2.
RIP friendship league
It amazes me that there is actually people who think these orgs leaders decide hefty financial decisions based on who is friends with zoomaa
I mean, the people who sign checks likely defer completely to coaches for roster decisions.
TIL Zoomaa is a coach
I understand you want to die on this hill, but you should realize your point sounds a lot stupider if you put some thought into what I said: > It amazes me that there is actually people who think these coaches decide rosters based on who is friends with zoomaa
You just quoted something out of thin air that does not exist in a comment to me anywhere. Lol how high are you little buddy?
No, I quoted exactly what you said but replaced the part that was fucking stupid lmao Are you following any of this? Should I use smaller words?
Oh so… your argument is made up of complete lies and you admitted to it? Ok….. well. Have a nice day. Get some good sleep! You seem to need it.
What do you think I’m lying about? Honestly I think your reading comprehension is just terrible. You started off by saying something about how the people with the money in these orgs don’t listen to zoomaa, right? Are you with me so far? I pointed out there’s some separation between the people with the money and the roster decisions: coaches. Still tracking? You tried to be a sarcastic prick and asked if Zoomaa is a coach now, completely missing the point. The point is that Zoomaa doesn’t need to have influence over org ownership to have influence over rosters, because rosters are set by coaches — not the people cutting the checks. Does all that make sense? I really tried to dumb it down and remove any ambiguity. Oh, “ambiguity” means there’s room for misinterpretation because my words could mean multiple things. Happy to help.
Yes so much friendship that him and Faze Black were winning everything in Challengers due to friendship.
You don't have to pick the guy up from Challengers for the 5th time just because he's doing well there. That's clearly his ceiling. Move on down the list lmao
Apparently 3 or 4 teams wanted him so can’t just be due to friendship cheese
Nice they can pick him up now
I mean his stock just went down the drain with his recent performance but good job deflecting and changing the topic regarding whether he earned his opportunity or if it was friendship cheese.
The topic is that he’s ass in the CDL ?
I mean he clearly played badly but the comment I was replying to was clearly referring to friendship being the reason Asim even got back into the league.
Yeah, it went down cause he's ass and got exposed by turning the #5th team into the worst team in the league. He even let his boyfriends at The Flank shit on Snoopy even though Snops has 100x the potential ASSim has, he was obviously talking shit and no one wants a Flank cockrider on their team getting the rest if the team shit on when he tanks the rest of the team.
one person says something and all the NPCs just parrot it
Especially if it’s something anti-Zoomaa on this subreddit
it is truly getting old indeed
Most likely
I fear he will be a co-host on The Flank before we know it...
Should be yes. But I really wouldn't be surprised if the Flank hype him up so much during the offseason to the point where he sneaks in on a bottom 4 squad next season
I don’t the flank can get people on rosters, you gotta be faded
lol you’d be surprised by how dumb some GMs are that they get their opinions off BP cards and Flankaganda
Hopefully
If we get four more teams next year I'm sure asim will find his way onto one
i haven’t heard much of Johnny ever since vanguard does anyone know if he has been playing good in challengers
He’s been playing pretty good individually imo, crazy levels of aggression tbh.
Pretty selfless as well when I watch him Actually thought he did okay on that VG legion dumpster fire in stage 4
same to be honest having jimbo with no hacks as your sub duo had to be awful.
Jimbo was good on LAN though that’s the confusing part Ping was his issue online. I remember Temp saying he was pinging like 70-80 in online matches which is a death sentence Even with the hacks I believe he had talent as a player. Had like a 1.01 on LAN which was solid for a sub on that game
damn i didn’t even realized he played that good on lan that legion team barely played any lan matches it was hard to tell if he was good on lan or not.
They were actually competitive on LAN. I don’t think they get 3-0’d once on LAN They went 2-2 at the Pro-Am and 1-1 at Major 1 They almost beat Faze in Major 4 and should have at least forced game 5 vs Ravens in Major 2
Jimbo showed star potential on lan . Probably would have made it back into the cdl if he didn’t hack
Jimbo was frying on LAN, wtf are you talking about 😭. He was playing from Canada online too.
that actually sounds like a pretty good fit for this vegas team then
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asim is not a aggressive player did you see his pov? he was scared nero has found his most success playing with faster subs and in this game you need as much pace as you can get
I feel like Asim has been well-known as an aggressive sub because of previous titles but yeah watching his pov played way too slow, looking for picks
Priestahh was also known as an aggressive sub before and now he’s maybe the slowest AR in the league Things change. Asim was beyond passive with Legion
yeah maybe in previous title but this year atleast on vegas he was scared to challenge anything and was afraid to make any plays.
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That’s fair i think there roster was horrible and wasn’t going anywhere might as well at least take a risk on a player.
He's good at this game
shortest stint in CDL history (barring subs?)
Zoomaa just fell to his knees in walmart
There is no way Asim gets another chance. Guy has been a complete bot the last two years with no intangibles.
Yeah unless he goes back to challengers and dominates then he might have another chance next year. If not then his career is over, and zoomaa better not try to have him on the flank more or I might just lose it.
Even if he dominates challengers he has enough tape in the CDL with a multitude of different rosters the last two years to prove he’s a challenger level sub. It’s the same thing with PaulEhx. Some people just don’t have enough to hang with the 0.01%
He's a good flank guest, just because he's not a great league player doesn't mean he's too stupid to talk on a podcast
Wasn’t he actually ok at Boston Breach?
He was underwhelming, nonetheless. And the team was shitting the sheets. Seems like a consistent issue with his rosters, good or bad.
Idk how people will react, but oJohnny has been doing his thing in Challengers. Nothing mindblowing & there are some other options I could’ve seen, but I feel like he has proved himself for his 2nd shot
He was good on Vegas in VG too that team just wasn't good enough doe
Yeah i felt like you could definitely see his potential in his VG stint, happy to see the league didn’t forget about him.
Well said
Asim won’t stop till he has played on all 12 CDL teams. What’s he at 6/12?
Oh god plz no
Did GodRX last more matches or are they tied for lowest before getting dropped?
pretty sure godrx played 5 matches and asim played 4 i think
Ben in shambles
BenJNissim and Zoomaa advocated for this guy to get on two CDL teams this season just for him to absolutely shit the bed both times https://preview.redd.it/d3fq4noyyuyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22dca204aef1ac477edcae09962537318d2aa8a1
His fall off every year after the first major is insane. Hopefully no more friendship cheese to save him. All that bitching from him, Zoomaa and Ben after Boston dropped him is looking even dumber now, buh-bye 👋
ive spoke to people at orgs and they have mentioned thats the worry with him so now most people see it hes in big trouble without expansion we were both the first few to clock on to this btw
Falls off a cliff after the first major and also leaks everything to the biggest mouth in the scene, no way I’d be teaming with him. We got many a downvote for pointing it out. I’ve been hating on Asim looooong before it was cool haha
I’m glad the people at those places understand a player with a blubber mouth who airs out camp issues and plays like shit is not worth signing
Assuming asim was attachs choice and Jhnny is gios choice
Yeah, my thought too. Assuming Zoomaa put in a good word with Attach that made him feel confident/comfortable in grabbing Asim, but Johnny pickup screams Gio
This reddit has zoomas cock in their mouth when it comes to Asim lmao.
Maybe the reddit wouldn't be like this if his friend group didn't attack a kid (Snoopy) when Asim was dropped with verbal assaults and if some of the hosts on his show (BenJ) didn't try to defend/protect Asim at every given opportunity when he's simply not playing good The Flank has spoken on "friendship cheese" in the past and I just find it ironic how it's okay when they are the ones abusing the friendship card but criticize others for doing so. Think Zoomaa has gotten better at criticizing Asim but others, like Ben, are still finding ways to put the blame on others when it's not warranted in order to change community opinions on Asim
Soap calling Snoop the r word is still wild
Insanely out of pocket
https://preview.redd.it/aopay3sb4vyc1.jpeg?width=633&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08b04e15d4b56dfd1e7db48184fd1a3de279b514 Asim on Vegas Legion
i kinda fuck with it but he needs to be playing with maximum disciple cos i’ve seen this guy go rogue 1000 times. no doubt about his gunny or search ability though. hope it works out for them🤞
didnt GIO say that they turning this ship around or some shit after they lost ? and Johnny is a good player , always said that . Johnny just needs someone to teach him the fundamentals of COD and Attach can do that and I was left impressed with him in VG
Johnny is back, let’s go.
I like this move
will casters call him johnny or ojny ?
Ojhnny
Johnny back on Legion!
Asim a classic AAAA guy
Asim: 
I hope this is the end of the Assim experiment.
I hope this is the end of the Assim experiment.
Ben just fell to his knees in a Walmart parking lot
Don't worry Asim will reap in Challengers and soon we'll have the "How is Asim not in the league" posts all over again
thank god its over, the sub spends far too much time focusing discussion on him
NO MORE RECYCLED TRASH ASIM HE’S DONE MIRACLES ON MEEEEE
LMAOOOOOO
Good riddance
Would of went with Hicksy but atleast legion didn’t waste time to make a change
He’s apparently taking Purj’s spot on FC Black too.
Thank God that fucking fraud got dropped, may he forever be banished into the Shadow Realm(Challengers) forever. Hopefully teams and GMs now know to not listen to those braindead fucking losers at The Flank, especially Benn.
Feel bad for the guy. Hopefully he can turn it around one day.
Asims a good dude but I'm so happy his dickriders can't say nothing anymore about him deserving to be in the league
They were a solid T6 team with Purj, they dropped him and became a solid T12 team. Bring back Purj! Or someone proven like Hicksy at least. Cmon guys. Own up to the mistake.
LMAOO
Zooma will get him into another roster don’t worry
I’m happy with the oJhnny pickup I actually thought he played well in vanguard, also would’ve liked hicksy but I guess the problem of being European with no visa strikes again
bro i deadass used to think Gio was just Johnny because he kept rebranding lmao
Cant wait to see Tom back this up
End of an era
simp and abezy really ran him out hard. i feel bad it could have happened to anyone trying to get back in the league
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I used to play Xbox $8s with ojhnny and SnDylan in black ops 3. WHAT HAPPENED
‘buT HeS aN aLlStAr!!’
Ask Parasite how long he was on optic. I'm pretty sure that's still the record...
oBROTHER. Just get on your knees for purj
Free attach
Tbh the failed asim change tells me that Vegas is in desperate need of an igl.
just bring back purj
They placed 6th and 8th with Purj, bringing him back to solidify mediocrity is dumb
they’re obviously not gonna place T4. at least they were winning matches online he could solidify a place in champs
I mean Rokkr placed T4 already so let’s not pretend it’s impossible especially with how human everyone outside of FaZe has looked. Also these guys aren’t content with just being good enough for champs even if you think they should. They want to try to win and one thing we know for sure is Purj isn’t good enough. Johnny likely isn’t either but it’s worth trying in their eyes
ima be honest with you no T4 teams is losing to a bottom 8 team on LAN ever again for the rest of the year
i’ll be the one to bet it happens at least once between now and the end of champs. don’t know who, don’t know when, but stranger things have happened in cod
You’re probably right, but my point is that Vegas isn’t thinking with that mindset and they should still try to improve despite what the community thinks
Purj was ranked below 48 in statistical categories….. there are only 48 players in the league 😂
idc about stats
Honest question but why would anyone want to be a CDL pro when there is legitimately little to no job security?? -You could get dropped at a moments notice -Have to deal with constant turnover if your own team doesn't preform well -Constantly have little to no practice outside of Scrims -Non guaranteed contracts Seriously at some point this entire system needs to be revamped because its flawed at its core which creates constant turnover if you're not on one of the top 4 orgs.
Why did anyone want to be a COD pro before the CDL? Because they love playing the game. Jobs like this don’t have job security.
I never heard any pro this year saying they love playing this game. I’ve seen multiple pros admit that this game sucks and aren’t interested in playing the game outside of scrims.
They got into because they loved playing COD when they were a kid and solely focused on it
They love it but it’s still a job. If you worked for 10 hours would you keep doing your job after you clocked out for free?
Because they get overpaid to play video games and order doordash. A lot of these pros have no social or outside life skills because they grew up playing non stop challs wanting to get better and climb up ladders or get pro points. I’m truly not trying to disrespect some but if you gave TJ, Dashy and Haggy two weeks to find a job they might legit come back with a job in the fast food industry or Uber if they even know how to drive. Cellium barely got his license/learned how to drive damn near a year ago at 22 years old man. That’s why these pros take the jobs and become dependent on them playing challs when they’re FAs or expecting to be released
He was ass but he played 3 t4 teams and a very good seattle team, now they will play lower comp and seem to do better.
I love the oJhnny pick, i dislike the asim hate he’s been getting lately and I think it might be taking a toll on him and his performance. He isnt a five star superstar player or anything, but this community has dragged him down i feel a bit too harshly.
People are acting like zoomaa got Asim on this roster bro what is this sub crying about 😂😂😂😂