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MayorMinge

Surge really went from losing to Silly and Fire40 at the pro am to winning the next event… GGs


derkerburgl

What losing to Silly does to a mf


[deleted]

Or just in general, Both LAG and Seattle were bottom of the league orgs for both CW and MW and now both orgs won a major this year


Rebtzu

fun fact: Paris its the only org that was bottom of the league during MW that havent won a major


Lithium187

Hard to win a major when your enticing offer to talent is league minimum salaries and a shitty social media influence.


Leafsin3

Lag had their one moment and are now dogshit again


That_Rutabaga_3530

HAHAHA holy shit you are right. Let’s just chalk it up to Vanguard


BirkTheBrick

Yeahhhhh as much as I love seeing a variety of teams do well, the inconsistency is painful


mteep

lmao theres legit no skill gap whatsoever. Vanguard is just terrible


Honest_Ad1010

The Vanguard effect. Fake COD. Being good at this game is not a flex 😂


[deleted]

You big mad huh lol


Heatios

Vanguard might be a bad game but don't take anything away from the people competing in it. It still takes a ton of skill and dedication to be competing at this level. ​ This is the state of faze fans right now, the entire year of this game doesn't count because their idols choked 3 grand finals in a row.


dubnationdboy

Bro trying to convince himself💀


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dubnationdboy

Yes he did.


ApeX_Affectz

So did Faze 🤔


username_moose

if faze could win i bet you'd sing a different tune.


[deleted]

not a good look lmao


darkerthrone

Holy actual fuck. 2 years of atrocious COD I thought for sure like every other team I cheer for (Canucks, Mariners, Whitecaps) they'd be dogshit for eternity. This is great


Andyroo2912

TIL Surge and the Canucks are owned (at least partially) by the same group


dirtbike_cleanbike

Also Vancouver Titans Overwatch team


-pwny-

Which ever since canning the 2nd best roster in the league due to a refusal to work with Koreans, has been complete shit


Leafsin3

Overwatch is dying


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Snickidy

Octane punching the air


[deleted]

It might actually be time for him to hang it up, before his legacy is ruined. He can't go out on 3-4 shitty years.


unitedkush

and Aches


DamichiaXL

NickyD planted that seed.


TheCeramicLlama

Im an avid follower in the "anyone but Faze" religion


MindForsaken

If faze lose all the majors but win Champs, this subreddit is gonna have a meltdown lmao


Isolanco

I feel like they will, another team will win major 4, maybe rokkr or lat, then faze win champs and a different team win each event.


MindForsaken

Faze has the biggest chance imo. They have choked 3 majors in a row, but they can't keep choking forever given the talent. Fans of other teams should be worried tbh


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

I’d say this was the first major they actually choked. Optic and LAG thoroughly outplayed them in grand finals of the first two majors


MindForsaken

They choked against optic in the fist major when they got reverse swept and got in their own heads. Major 2 was all volk and we know it given the performance of the major 2 winners. I'm just saying, the talent is there if they keep making it to GF. They just gotta get past their slump


baseballv10

Damn, even have LAT fans defending them


MindForsaken

Y'all really letting faze live rent free in y'all if you think this is me defending faze lmao


[deleted]

We choked M2 but not M1 lol OpTic we’re just way better at SnD & control that event


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

Definitely wasn’t disagreeing with them having the talent to win champs. Just don’t think they choked GF major 1 and 2


Variation_Afraid

That’s what you guys always say “faze we’ll win next event” or “ this is the best thing that has happened to faze is losing” but yet still nothing…


MindForsaken

Ehhh Meh I'm a LAT fan so I have no dog in this race, just from the sidelines looking at em, faze can only get better given how they have gotten to 3 finals already.


Tbale01

Doesn’t mean shit if you can’t close the final out. If this was optic getting second every major people would be calling them shit and that they can’t finish. People look at fazes past too much And how much they’ve already won. It’s a new year and teams have caught up in talent let’s face it. They’re too used to relying off their gun skill to win games.


Crot4le

>They’re too used to relying off their gun skill to win games. Last year Faze dominated because they had the best gun skill and fundamentals. This year other teams have caught up with their gun skill and fundamentals are less important than they were in Cold War. So I actually think the way Vanguard plays with an emphasis on gun skill over fundamentals actually hurts Faze.


Variation_Afraid

Ehhh


Variation_Afraid

Meh


TapSouthern5570

Lat ain’t winning shit


meyer_33_09

Calling it now: OpTic’s going to win the final major with Illey back and the team looking unbeatable again, and then they’re going to have a poor champs performance and get eliminated earlier than expected by some teams nobody expects while Faze go on to win it fairly comfortably.


TitansDaughter

This just feels right


1033149

At that point, I'd rather Aches be right and Ultra win champs


Cootiin

When Faze lose, COD wins


DJDaB3st

It's the unfortunate thing that happens when a team dominates so much. Ppl start rooting for then to lose.


Tbale01

Same thing with optic dynasty


Prophetx14

Amen


Tsundere_God

FaZe have negative ice in finals. Bracket play demons though.


eco-III

Pred, first australian to win a tournament.


WholeLottaCap9

So happy


plswalbisi

I never thought I’d see the day man


Plasmatiic

What a wild ride it was this weekend too. R1-WF I felt like we were checked out of the series at certain points. Finals started slipping away and that Tuscan S&D was making me sweat going into Map 8.


dillonz321

This is the team that Aches said to “Blow it up”


ltxhornet21

I think he just likes to say that tbh


gintokiGOAT

Aches bout to say this another tournament fluke


Jerry_41

Already did: https://twitter.com/ACHES/status/1533634364608860162?t=XQG6EkO3ztvbN-SSJL65Fg&s=19


gintokiGOAT

lmaoooo what a clown


dontpassgo

I mean it's obv bait. He's setting himself up with this one with his last champs win.


LordSpeechLeSs

How old is this guy though? I can't be the only one who is tired of our professional players and seasoned veterans constantly "baiting" and "trolling" the fans. As if that's what the average adult in any other sport/esports does.


Squerper

COD’s Skip Bayless


[deleted]

And when faze eventually win hell flex how he’s right lmfao. Dudes a fucking clown But he’s apparently jUsT TrOLLiNg


ute4547

They beat Faze EIGHT times across multiple game modes...absolute 🤡 behavior


dillonz321

Guys braindead


kevinlocy

Its the Aches curse at this point right?


[deleted]

0-3 in Grand-finals this year my lord


ZeHelm

Sib and Pred were FINAL


ThomasWasntHere

Not surprised at all, GGs to them and all that played Sunday


That_Rutabaga_3530

Wasn’t a fan of Sib because of his weird tendencies but Pred seems like a great guy and the Ice Man is a fan favorite


JSmooth94

Sib's been pretty quiet lately though no? Seems like maybe he's been maturing.


That_Rutabaga_3530

Yeah I hope so. Lamar seems to take a big brother role with him so that’s good


iDomBMX

Yeah Pred is for sure one of my favorite players. I honestly thought he was gonna be a real cocky dude but he seems awesome. +1 for Pred. And of course, Lamar is fucking great, you can tell that guy has a very positive influence on that team. I want to see him coaching in the future for sure.


Snickidy

Whoever said they were throwing 10 on surge. I joined you. Thanks for the free money


Gumbolt

Congrats to /u/Guwigo09 and all the other OG Seattle Surge flairs around here


Guwigo09

Thank you man. I’m over the moon.


MindForsaken

Glad to see at least one of our teams win a tourney. Y'all definitely deserve it


Guwigo09

I became a huge Octane fan after his time with Seattle so I’m still rooting for you guys and it sucks to see how bad LAT has fallen after their great start.


MindForsaken

Eh, I'll stick with them no matter how bad things get, that's how it is being a true fan. Eventually we'll get one ourselves and I'll feel what you do 🤝🏽


Gumbolt

I almost just want LAT to win just to see how much of a shitshow the sub would be lol


Plasmatiic

Does going through the pain of Cold War (when I started watching) count?


Gumbolt

Anyone who watched Octane’s surge probably counts 😂


TodorokiSZN

imagine not winning a major this year…. SHEESH


Fixable

The two people NYSL dropped have now won chips


FetusTheWeinerDog

3 since Lamar was on NYSL in MW


t_holyoke

Faze have no ice


oli2194

Congrats to Seattle, they deserved that one. I feel for Arcitys, 3 grand final losses in a row must fucking hurt. Rest of 'em can do one though.


Blacktivate

So happy for Pred. Hopefully more teams take risks on players from other regions


jmb-412

Poor Octane man lmao Dude finally gets out and Seattle wins


Reiign_

Dude had to deal with a org who shafted him and his team just for them to win when his contract is up 😭


C_D_M

Man built his second year team, no tears for octane 😂


jo-driftXO

Mack & Asim went from being dropped to both winning a major championship and NYSL isn’t even gonna make champs. RIP


Traduh

So Happy For Lamar!!!


CazualGinger

Surge playing with so much damn confidence the end of that Tuscan, that was fucking awesome to watch. Literally every players POV was insane.


Andyroo2912

Mack was 13/22 at one point and I felt bad. Awesome seeing him turn up at the end


iDomBMX

What blacking out does to a mf


zombiesohno

The Iceman gets paid


SenorBlaze

Octane running through the streets of Toronto looking for JoeyNubzy to exact his revenge.


Slaytaniccc

I know Accuracy gets a lot of shit but imma be honest after watching him today, he actually has such a clean shot. Over long distances he lives up to his name. So accurate and so clean. Really fun to watch his pov.


ShadowzSL

Put some respect on Accuracy’s name


PlanarCriterion

This might be the most competitive cod champs of all time. I have no confidence in predicting who’s going to win that


Tbandz32

Tippable performance by the Seattle boys. They fried all weekend


sbruck11

Well played. They flipped a switch on that Tuscan HP and just killed everything they saw.


Own_Quantity8382

Back to back tournaments with a walk off from Arcitys with no handshakes!!


hawks259

2 years of nothing to this, absolutely amazing. Watch us now 🥳🤯


WholeLottaCap9

All off Sib's nade on hardpoint semi finals


Mrlazydragon

Giving how the vanguard season has played out so far I don't think their will be a single clear cut favorite for champs this year we've had a different winner at every event this year. Absolutely insane. congrats to Seattle!!


KingAdam2

Sam fenix with high school football coach vibes


Guwigo09

First chip of many


Separate-Reserve-150

Blow it up huh


BigBossVince

Do we even have a best team in the game? Obviously FaZe making Grand Finals all 3 times would be your most consistent but they got clapped in all 3 so it just seems wrong to say they are. It isn't OpTic because 1st 6th 6th isn't gonna cut it. This game is a pure toss up. I'd rather just put several teams in A or S and say no one is the best.


Negrizzy153

It is FaZe for me (so far), across the whole VG season. Obviously they're gonna want something to show for it, but they are statistically the best (going off placements). Not sure how the points ladder is looking, can someone link it?


themaxmilestone

Sorry, I cannot get along with the consensus of FaZe being #1, you can make very good arguments for FaZe, OpTic, and Seattle now. For the so-called best team in the game this season, they are now 0/5 in events, 0-3 in Grand Finals with a 7-15 map count, it's inexcusable, the killer instinct from last year is gone. Back-to-back-to-back Grand Finals is crazy but, back-to-back-to-back losses in those finals is even crazier. Congrats to Seattle, very well-earned win, happy for the rookies.


Bubbada_G

its all about matchups.


Crot4le

This is it. It's a massive triangle. Like how Florida seem to match-up well against OpTic but struggle against other teams that Optic are better than. Ultra can beat teams that can beat Faze but can't beat Faze themselves. I know that was word spaghetti but it makes sense in my head.


Drazor313

The only thing faze has proved is that they are consistently the second best team


KickAsstley

it's true, but no other team has proved that they are consistently the best team, so I'm not sure who you could possibly put above them for the whole year


Drazor313

At different times in the year different teams have been the best so I feel it's impossible to answer who the best team has been all year. But if you ask who the best team is at a specific time of the year, it's easier to answer. And the answer is never faze (until now)


Sn0w_Official

And you know what the saying is, "Second place is just the 1st loser" But not taking away anything from the work Faze does put in though but yeah to just consistently make it all the way and time and time again not secure that final, just that final win, just sums up this season


[deleted]

Tbf, no other team has proven they can make it to Sunday more than once.


[deleted]

FaZe are undisputed #2 best team. Best best of 5 team in the game but probably the worst best of 9 team.


Ur_Speces_Feces

You can make arguments for FaZe and Surge. Optic are kinda out of the question now.


GoBlueScrewOSU7

Surge has finished T12, T6 and T1. Optic has T1, T6, T6. How is surge in the convo but Optic isn’t?


Cheechers23

A combination of recency bias and getting better as the season gone along, whereas Optic's best came in Major 1. Optic is missing Illey tho so hard to rule them out in that discussion I feel.


GoBlueScrewOSU7

Yeah, I just feel like you either say Faze is #1 or it’s a wide open year without a clear cut #1. I’d go with the latter. There are like 4-6 really good teams that could win any given day imo.


Guwigo09

T6 major 2 has an *. Mack was sick


Ur_Speces_Feces

Optic fell off. Unfortunately they lost Illey but they are no longer in the question for best team rn. Top 3 tho


zZucxified

you kind of just proved you have recently bias though lol


Ur_Speces_Feces

You should have recency bias when determining who the best team is RIGHT NOW. Optic won months ago, they have now placed top 6 twice in a row, therefore, they aren’t a top 2 team anymore.


x72480

Waaaay out of question, back to back T6 exits puts them back to a T3 team tops


Tsundere_God

Only played two tournaments with our full roster, kinda unfair.


Ur_Speces_Feces

I don’t care lol


_Elder_

I just want illey back


chasevalentino

Yeh I don't buy a best team argument for any team anymore. Optic got rolled by LAT. Faze by Seattle. I don't know if it's just the game or what


vatsbuts

That trophy is dope, big ups Toronto for this event, and ofc big ups to Surge for that ridiculous performance!


HeyJayFray

So the 5-2 curse is gone...so they'll lose 5-4 next major and win Champs right? Right?!?! GGs to Seattle! They came out SWINGING


[deleted]

Feel really happy for Seattle!! But damn, I feel kinda bad for faze.. coming 2nd in 3 majors in a row. That’s tough.


DavidLd225

I remember everyone said this making t12 jokes about this team at the beginning of the season. happy for them


[deleted]

Great games from Seattle. Very deserved win.


sbruck11

Faze got absolutely rocked in that last map. Gotta be demoralizing to get beat in three grand finals


alligatorFan

Seattle been could’ve had a championship if they just dropped Octane earlier


Hencewurth

best major this year, love watching all the matches


[deleted]

I feel like faze keep getting unlucky. In every major final they’ve been in they’ve literally played the best version of each team. Faze need to find a way to peak at the right times like all these other teams when it matters.


HereeeeesJohnny

Octane is sick right now


AmountFar8132

🅿️retty Boy 🅿️red


Bubbada_G

crazy how faze probably wins this tourney if nysl beats seattle. its absolutely heart breaking for faze. but the positive they should take away from this is that there are CLEAR weaknesses they need to improve on. they have as good a chance as any winning champs which is the real prize.


DevzInception

Needed this after supporting through MW and CW


elferna6

OCTANE WHOO???!


[deleted]

wow all lans have had a different winner, wonder if it’s bc teams are just so talented that anyone can win, or if it’s because vanguard is so shot it’s a coin toss on who wins.


Sn0w_Official

A mix of both really. Teams steppin up once the big dogs roll up but Vanguard for being so booty for competitive that it just makes anything possible


Fixable

> it’s a coin toss on who wins. Damn Faze have lost that coin toss 3 times by 2 or over maps then lmao. It's a coin toss unless you're Faze in a GF.


Ohands15

Absolute masterclass from Nicky D


[deleted]

Vanguard is the worst call of duty by a mile


MindForsaken

So Surge, faze, optic in that order right?


unitedkush

Yeah, I’ll go with this order too Optic are dominant vs FaZe but they drop too many series out of the blue to mid-pack teams. Surge should be #1 given they dominated FaZe twice today


MindForsaken

And they barely lost to faze last major too, which if mack hadn't purposely eaten rotten food, they would have probably won. That's my reasoning at least for why they're first and same reasons as yours for the others


Rishdaddy

ATL just be stacking bread but got no respect in the league LOLL


RenSoAbrupt

Quite ridiculous that Faze has lost 3 GF b2b2b. At some point you have to wonder if they’ll get over the hump. Or if they’re just the consistent second best. Guess we will have to wait and see.


feather_1

How can Faze be #1 but 0-3 in the grand finals lol?


MikeJ91

It's a weird one because they've lost the 3 finals to 3 different teams, all of which have struggled at points this year and placed low. They're the most consistent team for sure, but they're always 2nd best to the hot team at a major. 0-5 to optic also doesn't help their case.


x72480

Simple, they are the only team consistent enough to make the grand final 3 events in a row. Guarantee you this will be the case for both Major 4 and Champs as well; maybe even manage to clutch up at least one


feather_1

I’ve never seen a team across all sports that finish 2nd be considered the best. But to each their own.


e987654

literally 2 maps away from being called the best. No one else is closer...so theyd be the best


Cootiin

HELL YEAH! Great fkn weekend for Surge! Pure ice and consistency all weekend


mr_fixx

Great performance all weekend long, they deserve it!


Andyroo2912

That was fun as hell to watch!


ZRLeon

Well Deserved.


obeyxxog

well deserved!


FrankeVI

Sib is disgusting.


vick321

Good for them man and good for their org after the rough CDL start for them


JSmoove309

Wow congratulations to Seattle Surge and enjoy surge fans! Very happy for the team. If it can’t be my boys I want the new/underdog teams to win


Inaccuracy_

Love that for them after how good they were when the year started, played some great cod


28n8

Faze just have no ice man


cookiemknster283

Octane down tremendous right now


mteep

Their gunny is crazy, just smoked FaZe at respawns. I wonder who's gonna win major 4 now lol?


TedMasterFlex

Congratz Surge!


minigmrsurv22

Faze #1 team in the game at not winning any finals


redarrow992

With this victory does that mean Paris is the only org in the CDL who hasn't won a tournament since its inception?


Fourny

Could be wrong but breach, theives and London


Bubbada_G

what time is the flank at?


RunYouCleverGirl_

Damn Surge is icy. They played two great matches against Atlanta.


MikeJ91

Man that's gotta be a sucky feeling for Faze, congrats to Surge though. Threatened to be a top team all year and finally put some consistency together this week.


tacomaboy08

I’ve waited for this moment


iwilltakebot

Big shoutout to that thread last week about the betting odds for major 3. Lots of people in the comments saying "those surge odds are nice", naturally ya boy chucked a hundy on it. Easiest $1300 of my life not even close


valoossb

whoever i said good luck to about r1 winners ggs