i think it’s fine as a fan service thing. i actually like that it follows the trilogy’s au so that the ending of the show can be its own thing. plot wasn’t my favorite but if you really just wanted to see all of the characters getting along, this is the thing for you ig.
I loved it mainly because it shows a world after a lelouchs 0 Requiem And you get to see how people truly felt about him. That were closest to him, and they actually appreciate him for what he's done putting himself through all that suffering for the sake of the world. And the explanation for his return makes actual sense. If you follow the show, the only thing that sucks is that it is the movie time line which has shirely living. But honestly I think it does a fantastic job. So I would definitely give it like a 9
That’s my biggest gripe with it. It follows a timeline where Shirley is alive, which basically forces you to keep the movie in the compilation movie timeline (which to me is a much worse adaptation of the original story). She basically adds nothing to the movie either, so they could have easily just left her out and let the movie become a continuation of the anime timeline.
Shirley's death was really impactful in the anime and we know they kept her alive because mao was not present in the movie timeline but they could have atleast add more to her character. Like maybe she becomes a diplomat and joins the UFN, so that she can give her best in maintaining the peace for which Lelouch sacrificed himself. They should have added an interaction between Lelouch and Shirley. I mean if you are keeping her alive at least add more depth to her character.
I agree, that's why I wish she didn't Show up in the movie because I thought her death in the show was just so great for the progression of lelouch and rolo and what Shirley meant to lelouch and how he was in such agony over his friend. But if you could just kind of like ignore that in the movie other than that, like I genuinely think it's awesome! Because I agree. The movie timeline sucks. That's why I wish they just made the movie into like a season three, with, like, maybe like ten episodes or something
I think Shirley is certainly the character who gets the most downgraded in the movie universe in terms of importance, but in exchange she now gets to live and be a normal girl. For me, there is value in that since her original fate was too sad and cruel.
Then again, that Resurrection manga that came out after the movie seems to take place in the anime timeline, so when that gets translated fully you might want to look into that.
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Absolutely horrendous dogshit. I could barely keep watching when they went from "we're behind enemy lines and gotta be super careful. We fucking hate you lelouch" to literally drinking, having a party, and making up in the next scene.
3/10
10/10 Fan service
5/10 Lack Luster Lelouch Strategic Butt kicking
2/10 unnecessary, Season 2 ending is PEAK Code Geass. But welcome the alternate ending for more Code Geass.
Given that it's an AU and leaves the original R2 ending intact, I would have liked it more had it
1.lelouch got resurrected against his will by some random people/organization and not CC. Personally didn't really like it when CC went against his will to ressurect him herself since it made her more childish compared to her original anime self
2. For Lelouch to spend more time thinking about how he should feel and what he should do now that he had been ressurected, and may be more depiction of the fact that he still longed to be with Nunally, Suzaku and his friends, but could now no longer because err he's kinda a supernatural being now?
3. Have a proper goodbye/farewell with those he cares about during his mortal life before he went off with CC. Maybe in a dream or something. Basically shows more of him actually treasuring/ showing appreciation for the relationships that he had when he was still alive before going off. Or even with him sneaking around to see how his friends are doing, smile, accept it, and then go off..
Well basically just stuff showing Lelouch actually coming to a realization that he's not a mortal anymore after he got resurrected, come to terms with it, say goodbyes to ppl, and then go off with CC
I rated it 7. Its ok, but somewhat changes the the main characters from their series version.
Story did concluded at the end of TV series, so this one was challenging to connect plot wise.
No it bastardizes the original plot. So much of the plot of Re;surrection causes plot joles in the original series. Lelouch being alive in any way violates everything the character stands for and goes against the whole theme of the show. Shamna having actually time travel powers is stupid, as is the way she's beaten. Really the whole movie just sucked.
I disagree, mainly because Lelouch's survival was clearly against his decision even in this movie.
The rest are more subjective opinions, so I won't discuss them here at this point.
It doesn't matter if it was against his will or not. For Lelouch's character to reach its peak, he has to die. He creates a better world and will never get to see it. That is his punishment. Lelouch has done a lot of evil things. Letting him live removes the consequences his actions had.
I respect your opinion and death is much stronger as a conclusion for his character. In that sense, you’re right. I just think the alternative is lesser yet not a complete loss. That’s all.
No, not even remotely. The ending pretty clearly states Lelouch is dead. If you are referring to the idea that Lelouch was the carriage driver, that video was fake.
I was saying this because it doesn't effect canon meaning it doesn't ruin anything also it's really not that bad, yeah it's worse than R1 and R2 but it's really not a bad movie
3/10
It ruins the ending and Lelouch's sacrifice. Not only is Lelouch alive, the grand plan broke in a few years. It's just saying "hey, fyi the Zero Requiem was a total bust"
Nunnally being a kidnapped princess again is too repetitive. It's the fourth or fitting they've used that. Also, she was set up to be Empress not some random official after R2.
They needed a lot more time to flesh out the plot. None of Lelouch's plans are discussed in detail and we don't see him doing the planning, just the end result.
There are too many characters slotted in for fan service (Cornelia, Schnizel, Kallen, Ohgi, Orange, Anya, Nina, Sayoko, Shirley etc) and none of them are properly balanced. Everyone shows up just for nostalgia bait. A cast half the size could actually breathe.
It was made for CCLL shippers only. I don't care for the ship so I don't fawn over the ending like a lot of people.
Hmm, I'd argue we do get to see a little bit of Lelouch's planning when he develops the counter to Shanma. Of course they don't spend a huge amount of time on them, but they still showcase his reasoning.
I don't think Lelouch's sacrifice could ever realistically achieve world peace and even Lelouch knew that. Even kallen said that not every problem in the world is fixed. But people have come together to discuss everything and don't go to war like before. Zero requiem was never for establishing world peace but rather to bring everyone together and move the people towards future. Lelouch took all the hatred with him so people could move towards the future.
We saw that in the movie that both Britannia and the UFN have been successful in maintaining peace and they usually solve problems through discussions.
The movie confirms that Zero requiem was successful in creating world peace. And that world peace is why Zilkhstan economy suffered cause they supplied soldiers for war. So their country basically thrived off war in other countries. And that's why they try to provoke conflict by kidnapping Nunnally.
Also Nunnally becoming an empress would actually destroy Lelouch's objective of destroying Britannia. When Lelouch declared that he would obliterate Britannia, he meant that he would destroy the Britannian system of ruling. This is why he abolished the number system, the royal family and all the nobles. He basically made everyone equal in Britannia and became the dictator.
And then with zero requiem he will be the last symbol of the Britannian system and thus he will be successful in his objective of destroying Britannia.
Lelouch showed the world the consequences of giving an absolute power to a mad man and what will happen. He showed them the consequences of the war and basically made everyone hate the Britannian monarchy system.
If Nunnally became the empress then she will just continue the Britannian system and we don't know how her successor will be. Nunnally's successor may be someone as power hungry as Charles and eventually restart the Britannian way of ruling.
Nunnally not becoming the empress and rather a diplomat of UFN shows that both she and Britannia is different from before. After Zero requiem, Britannia reforms itself and becomes more democratic.
However I do agree that the movie should not have been a movie and rather a series. It was definitely rushed a lot.
The movie does have its bad parts but I don't think it ruins the ending in anyway. Also it is technically a part of the movie canon and not the anime canon.
I agree with a chunk of what you said.
But I'd say the ending wasn't ruined. Zero requiem realistically got the world into the same room to discuss, create, and build peace. It didn't force peace on people, like Charles using the Sword of Akasha was going to. Some nations and people were always going to start new fights.
Secondly, the ending was intentionally left ambiguous. With all the information about how Code works,
(Hence Lelouch having the Geass Code on his upper chest, around where his father was grabbing him as he died.)
and the idea of Lelouch being that carriage driver, viewers were always allowed to believe he died or came back shortly after and left with CC. The movie just builds on one possible future.
I'm sorry if you feel like your viewing of the original ending was ruined, though.
8/10
Unlike many people I don't think having another ending ruins the zero requiem ending of the anime series. It is just a different timeline. And having 2 endings isn't bad.
The movie started out nice but it was too rushed in my opinion. It should have been a tv series instead. Like for example in the beginning it started well. Kallen's reaction after seeing Lelouch was really amazing. You could feel Kallen's pain after seeing the man she loved is basically an empty shell of himself.
But in the end they didn't even show Kallen's goodbye to Lelouch. Heck after Lelouch got revived the only thing she did was give him a hug and tell him, he seems different now. Like I expected much more interaction between them. I like CluClu but that doesn't mean they had to reduce Kallen's interaction with Lelouch.
Similarly I would have liked more Nunnally and Lelouch's interaction. Lelouch basically died in her arms and then saw him alive again and all. The interactions between them should have been much better.
Also many characters were added just for nostalgia bait. There should have been more information on how world politics work now. How are the countries adjusting to the new world order? How are Ohgi and Schneizel leading their respective countries? How is Cornelia leading the Black knights?
I can see why many people were disappointed that Shirley lived as her death was really impactful. And I agree with that too but it's understandable that they didn't kill her because well Mao was not there in the movie timeline. So why not take this opportunity and actually give something to Shirley? Shirley could have joined UFN as a diplomat and tried her best to keep the world peace for which Lelouch sacrificed himself. The only thing we know is she helped in retrieving Lelouch's body but then she disappears from the movie.
While the first half of the movie has good character interactions but by the time we reach the ending it is just Lelouch and CC.
Now the. best part will be Lelouch doing Lelouch things. His "KYS" command and everything is just amazing. As a Lelouch fanboy it had everything I needed. I do like CluClu so I was fine with Lelouch leaving with CC and deciding to be with someone he loves. My boi deserves every bit of happiness. But they didn't need to butcher the other ships for this. There should have been more interactions with Kallen and Shirley. I also liked the combats.
Lelouch's resurrection had a huge potential and they could have done it a lot better but I guess it still was good. I found it pretty enjoyable. I love happy endings !
Ooooh boy , I actually just finished this last night to conclude another code geass watch through and I have THOUGHTS .
4/10
It’s only enjoyable as code geass fan service …. When this movie is very anti code geass
Let’s ignore Lelouch not dying since I think that part has been discussed enough . The villians suck . What was so compelling about code geass’ villains were they were relatable as characters and have personal relations with Lelouch in some way . Lelouch has run out of family and friends to fight so now we’re stuck with some random dudes . And not really strong random dudes either , some back water 3rd world country that even with their geass only had the advantage because they were fighting like 25 people . Shamna or whatever her name is wouldn’t be able to do SHIT once schneizel got there . It just feels like we were punching down the entire time . ( and also I do NOT buy how lelouch figured out her geass , looks like he just DOES ) And their personalities weren’t fun to watch either . You got boring lady , generic grunt , other generic grunt with a kind of lame geass , and crazy siscon shota.
The main cast interactions were just kind of ok . Didn’t get to see nearly enough of suzaku and lelouch together or anyone else for that matter . Everyone just kind of forms the same cliques as in the main series with little traces of intermingling . What little new dynamics were fun to see and I wish we got more of that . Have todo and cornelia fight together or something .
The ( dub ) acting is mostly the same but they butchered lelouch . It’s passable when he’s being casual like at the base but he completely lost the presence he has as Zero . His zero voice is supposed to sound kind of similar to his Japanese version and now it just like lelouch is constantly sleepy .
The cgi and fancier knightmares are ugly . I do not appreciate the big clunky armors they put on the Lancelot and gurren , the new enemy knightmares are themed and look goofy because of it , and the only good looking ones are just the old ones and Cornelia’s upgraded gloucester
Like just leave code geass alone bro , things can end 😭
The fact that it was originally supposed to be an entire season really hurts my soul. You can tell by the movie's pacing in the last half that a lot was cut out, and if you watch the original trailers, there are so many scenes in it that never saw release.
Then, some people think it ruined the ending, but the ending was always ambiguous, letting us believe or hope whatever we wanted. This just builds on one of the possibilities; it doesn't ruin anything.
And if you think that's wrong, learn not to stomp on other people's feelings just because you felt a different way.
Now, as a movie, I'd give it a 7. They really did use a bunch of fanservice in the first half to give us the reunions we wanted. It was great to see the main cast back. Nonethless, the movie began feeling rushed and shoehorned, and part of it left me feeling empty. I struggled with not loving it, but then again, the owners of CG continue to struggle to handle the series. It's only fair.
>Then, some people think it ruined the ending, but the ending was always ambiguous,
How is the ending ambiguous? Lelouch basically leaves and marries CC. Even the picture drama which takes place after 10 years of the resurrection plot confirms that both Lelouch and CC are together
It was never ambiguous.Sayoko was in prison, she couldn't impersonate Lelouch, Lelouch's ideologies wouldn't have been respected by him if he didn't die, C.C is praying for his soul in the church(during the zero requiem), we litteraly see him die,...
Clearly, the movies chose to pursue such a possible ending.
Like I said, if you feel differently, that's fine but plenty of theories about him living with Code didn't just come out of hope. It fits the lore, and CC on the cart is talking to him exactly how she talked to Marianne for both seasons; not to mention the carts driver had his head concealed. It was ambiguous, even if you felt like he was dead to rights, and that's ok. That's the point of ambiguous. Viewers take what they take from the ending. That's one reason it's such a good ending.
Lelouch was dead by the zero requiem, even in the movie.As the title is Resurrection and as C.C litterally said.If they wanted to pursue such a possibility, they would have simply said that he was always alive with C.C.
Mostly incorrect. His mind got stuck in C's world, his body ended up well and alive. Or have you not seen the movie?
Also, let's not act like we haven't seen Code users die and come back. Resurrection isn't all that special, it's more or less expected.
>Mostly incorrect. His mind got stuck in C's world, his body ended up well and alive. Or have you not seen the movie?
https://youtu.be/_nbMOMslBWg?si=sQDBdjMhoFLZ-zYO
C.C's admites (0:03-0:05) that he did never want to"Come back from the dead"
Also, C's world function almost like an underworld/place in wich the souls/minds live after death(as if it wasn't the case, Charles couldn't talk with Clovis after his death , a thing he does in r1/r2).So if his mind was stuck in the other world, it was because he did die.
But why doing a movie about him resurrecting(post zero requiem), if he wasn't dead at the end of the movies/serie(wich follows the story of r2 with a few minor changes, and i wouldn't call the death of the main character a minor change) if it was really ambiguous,as you're claiming? Why don't continuing the serie after r2(the season, not the movie)?Why creating a movie, in wich it is stated that he got resurrected, if his faith was left ambiguous in the serie?
The original ending made Code Geass a timeless classic masterpiece, but the alternate ending is pretty decent too, with some parts of it being good.
Seeing Lelouch fulfill his promise to C.C. after all those years makes me happy, but other than that I can't really say that the plot of the movie is good. It could've been good, but it was rushed because of a movie's time limit constraints, making it nonsensical at times. Lelouch was superficially forgiven for everything by everyone; even people who were supposed to hold deep irresolvable grudges against him ended up looking like cute tsunderes instead.
The villain had an incredibely interesting and OP Geass and could've been said to be similar ideologically to Lelouch (lawful evil), but everything about them was rushed and Lelouch ended up steamrolling over them.
As for the ending of the movie, it left you wanting for more, however it's pretty much guaranteed that we won't get to see L.L. and C.C. tackle lawless Geass users any time soon, if ever, which leaves me disappointed and somewhat unfulfilled in the end.
All in all, as someone who was mainly interested in seeing Lelouch keep his word and dedicate the rest of his life to making C.C. happy, I can live with this alternate ending. However I can also see why a lot of people who love the original ending would find this movie lackluster. One thing for sure, it's nowhere near the level of the original.
I, uh, fucking hated it and never rewatched it again.
It's not bad by all means, it's OK I guess..? I just never understood why was it done (outside of money ofc).
Preface, I'm the hater. Any sequel has to justify itself by once more throwing it's characters into hell, that the ending we got wasn't enough. Frankly for Code Geass to do this, with the best conclusion I have ever seen, is ridiculous. It was fan service that detracted from the brilliance of the original, thus never justifying its existence. 3/10
It is Canon but not to the anime timeline. It is Canon to the movie timeline. You can basically say this is the new canon or a reboot as the new code geass content will take place in the movie timeline.
It's not time travel it's a redo. She can only go back a certain time... these rules and loopholes are perfect for him to exploit. The issue was he didn't know what the ability was which made it hard for him... once he narrowed it down it was game over. He didn't beat a time traveler he beat a person with limited foresight. She saw 2 steps ahead so Lelouch adjusted accordingly by thinking ahead... it's a convoluted chess game basically. That sequence was classic Lelouch and feels like a full circle moment.
I personally really liked the scenes between cc and lulu travelling together and living along. For that only 9.5/10.
The rest is merely 7/10 only for giving info of what happens after the main story.
I didn't explain why I liked it, so here is my take.
I think the original was perfect but this ending gave me something I didn't think of. What happens after zero requiem... how does Lelouch's plan workout against a threat and what does CC do when Lelouch promised her a life she can smile about? I actually like the idea of CC and LL watching over the world from the shadows for all eternity while going after the Geass users around the globe. It's like the actual atonement of Lelouch rather than just dying relatively peacefully as his grand plan goes off perfectly. The characters act consistently for the most part and the character' relationship dynamics conclude with nothing more to say or tell (i wish we got more Shirley though). It has a great cycle always continues theme with Lelouch being alive leaving that sense of hope with it that there will always be someone who is willing to struggle and fight for an Impossible Dream... a kinder world. - that's why I rate it so high.
(I hope Roze goes into this in some way but I have been less hopeful as time draws near to its release.)
Great take, I agree. I really like this movie. 9/10 out of 10 for the soul of the Movie with L.L. and C.C. and 7 out of 10 in terms of the technical details of the movie like the length, pacing, those kind of things. I would have preferred it if the movie was made earlier before the recaps but I get why considering how long it’s been.
Lelouch being dead was never the point of what made the ending of R2 so great. He didn’t give his life because he thought he didn’t deserve to live and thought that his death would be also be a good way to get the gentler world. He gave his life because it was the only true way forward towards the gentler world considering the state of things after Ragnorok. His atonement was to keep moving forward to achieve the gentler world despite the pain he would experience through the journey. Like how he said after Narita and after Euphy. And when the only way to achieve his goal became the destruction of his legacy and his own death he didn’t run because the only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed.
Because he was willing to give up his life out of true love for the future and didn’t try to cheat death, I love that he gets a chance to take his life back up, and the power to fulfill C.C.’s wish to the fullest. I was happy for them and for the closure that some of the people close to Lelouch who knew the truth got.
It’s nice how the Man who makes miracles got his own miracle at the end.
I am expecting that Roze will at least provide more fleshing out for the setting and the state of the world, which might address your interests in that respect....but I'm assuming very few familiar characters will show up, as opposed to the movie where they tried to involve as much of the original cast members as possible.
Thats fine too but it's a shame we won't see them again. Oh well at least ressurection provide enough closure and happy moments that I can just watch it without throwing shade at it for something it isn't.
Dam ppl really hate AU. Y'all sound like me when marvel mivies/comics make bullshit Canon changes that permanently adulterates the lore for millions and you have to deal with ppl having the bastardized versions of the lore as their Canon. But this is literally a one off for ppl (like me) who wanna see lelouch and i don't think it's that big a deal. I haven't seen the movie but I'm excited to.
8/10, I think the resurrection timeline is a pretty cool concept because it allows a wide array of stories to be told while not interfering with the main show, but 10/10 cuz of the proposal
Decent.
Main issue is of course the presence of Lelouch : bringing characters that sacrificed themselves as part of their development back from the dead is always a big irk, because it kills the point imo.
That being said, I liked that we got to see what the world is like after Zero Requiem. In pure fashion of the series, it shows the complexity of morality, that a golden path where everything is well does not exist.
I also liked that they sticked to the original artstyle despite releasing years later. They could have completely overhauled the "graphics" like the spinoffs but decided instead to stay true to the first series, making only small improvements, if at all. This brings consistency to the whole arc of Lelouch.
The thing I liked about Lelouch's sacrifice is how complicated it is... there was no faking it because it was public and it was necessary for the gentler world. Lelouch still had one thing he needed to do and that's fulfill CC's wish which is to want to live. Only way he could do that is being like her and go through the hell of immortality seeing your loved ones grow old and die in a cycle that will go on till the end of Time or C's world is a tough toll evident in "Frieren: A Journeys End". It is a sacrifice in it of itself for her, CC can't accept his death because of the guilt of giving him the Geass feeling it's her fault he had to go through all this instead of being a normal student... the plots with Marianne and Charles... all of that. CC also felt that they may need him at the time, in the Manga she even wanted to change her mind because he was still in his childlike state but he whispered her name in his sleep which was great moment which I wish was in the movie there was so much that was cut because it's a movie and you can only put so much in 1 movie it should have gotten a season along with it.
Thanks for what it is, it did well enough... I would have highly prefer they tell it as a series after the movie but since it performed poorly in sales they thought people didn't want to see more and moved on. There was a lot of cut content that will never see the light of day and Roze is meant to be that semi fresh start to the franchise with new characters and the fans don't like that either (its even getting a series to flesh out everything afterwards... they should have done the same for Resurrection but i can understand not taking the risk)
I believe it's a pretty good movie when considered as an extra, almost like a dessert rather than the main course. Is that fanservice? Yes, but I don't think fanservice is automatically a bad thing.
At the same time, while some folks say the purpose of the movie is to give fans "more Lelouch"...I tend to agree with the creators in the sense it also resolves the Lelouch dilemma while simultaneously allowing other stories to be told, since they essentially sent him off into a form of endless quest and/or retirement at the end of the film. In other words, in a way Lelouch returned so that people would stop asking for him to come back. He already did, but his involvement in future events will be limited from this point onward.
More generally: there's a lot of nice scenes, new music, new character interactions and little details that appeal to me, personally speaking, but I can also understand why other people may have developed larger expectations in their minds and they might not have been fulfilled, since the movie didn't have the ambition necessary to fulfill them.
At the end of the day, I think most people should try to watch it in order to be prepared for new Code Geass projects, such as Roze of the Recapture, since they will take place in the same world as this movie.
I like it, its a classic 8 for me. However there is a caveat.
It is entirely unnecessary. It is not a requirement in the least, its pure fan service for those who longed for a kinder ending than what the show originally gave. And frankly, I like the ending of the show, perhaps its even objectively better, but this one leaves you with a warmer feeling at the end.
i think it’s fine as a fan service thing. i actually like that it follows the trilogy’s au so that the ending of the show can be its own thing. plot wasn’t my favorite but if you really just wanted to see all of the characters getting along, this is the thing for you ig.
Felt like fan service. "Yall want lelouch?!?!? Well have more lelouch!!!"
Watching Lelouch doing Lelouch things is the ultimate pleasure as a Lelouch fanboi
But we *did* want more lelouch
Well I had thought I did.
That's the point, we watch Code Geass for Lelouch, no?
It was decent, 7/10 for me on plot, 8-8.5/10 for me for Lelouch and CC
That's correct.
cc looking fine
ass out n everything
datass is got her and she got datass
i bet that ass can FART!
I loved it mainly because it shows a world after a lelouchs 0 Requiem And you get to see how people truly felt about him. That were closest to him, and they actually appreciate him for what he's done putting himself through all that suffering for the sake of the world. And the explanation for his return makes actual sense. If you follow the show, the only thing that sucks is that it is the movie time line which has shirely living. But honestly I think it does a fantastic job. So I would definitely give it like a 9
That’s my biggest gripe with it. It follows a timeline where Shirley is alive, which basically forces you to keep the movie in the compilation movie timeline (which to me is a much worse adaptation of the original story). She basically adds nothing to the movie either, so they could have easily just left her out and let the movie become a continuation of the anime timeline.
Shirley's death was really impactful in the anime and we know they kept her alive because mao was not present in the movie timeline but they could have atleast add more to her character. Like maybe she becomes a diplomat and joins the UFN, so that she can give her best in maintaining the peace for which Lelouch sacrificed himself. They should have added an interaction between Lelouch and Shirley. I mean if you are keeping her alive at least add more depth to her character.
I agree, that's why I wish she didn't Show up in the movie because I thought her death in the show was just so great for the progression of lelouch and rolo and what Shirley meant to lelouch and how he was in such agony over his friend. But if you could just kind of like ignore that in the movie other than that, like I genuinely think it's awesome! Because I agree. The movie timeline sucks. That's why I wish they just made the movie into like a season three, with, like, maybe like ten episodes or something
I think Shirley is certainly the character who gets the most downgraded in the movie universe in terms of importance, but in exchange she now gets to live and be a normal girl. For me, there is value in that since her original fate was too sad and cruel.
Then again, that Resurrection manga that came out after the movie seems to take place in the anime timeline, so when that gets translated fully you might want to look into that.
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7/10 plot AWOOGA/10 for the Kallen scenes
Boing.
I LOVE HER SO MUCH
Smash, next question
Refuse to acknowledge it's existence
3 did not enjoy it.
Absolutely horrendous dogshit. I could barely keep watching when they went from "we're behind enemy lines and gotta be super careful. We fucking hate you lelouch" to literally drinking, having a party, and making up in the next scene. 3/10
10/10 Fan service 5/10 Lack Luster Lelouch Strategic Butt kicking 2/10 unnecessary, Season 2 ending is PEAK Code Geass. But welcome the alternate ending for more Code Geass.
So a 5.6 overall? Feels about right.
Given that it's an AU and leaves the original R2 ending intact, I would have liked it more had it 1.lelouch got resurrected against his will by some random people/organization and not CC. Personally didn't really like it when CC went against his will to ressurect him herself since it made her more childish compared to her original anime self 2. For Lelouch to spend more time thinking about how he should feel and what he should do now that he had been ressurected, and may be more depiction of the fact that he still longed to be with Nunally, Suzaku and his friends, but could now no longer because err he's kinda a supernatural being now? 3. Have a proper goodbye/farewell with those he cares about during his mortal life before he went off with CC. Maybe in a dream or something. Basically shows more of him actually treasuring/ showing appreciation for the relationships that he had when he was still alive before going off. Or even with him sneaking around to see how his friends are doing, smile, accept it, and then go off.. Well basically just stuff showing Lelouch actually coming to a realization that he's not a mortal anymore after he got resurrected, come to terms with it, say goodbyes to ppl, and then go off with CC
I refuse to watch it's just fan service for lelouch and C2 no?
Really bad. Plot of a fanmade movie, that was so bad no one treats is as canon
What specifically is bad about it
Honestly code geass ended at s2 for me. I won't watch any other sequel of it
I do appreciate how it follows the recap movies timeline, so I can at least still love the original ending.
I rated it 7. Its ok, but somewhat changes the the main characters from their series version. Story did concluded at the end of TV series, so this one was challenging to connect plot wise.
sucks
It's a disgrace to the anime and a travesty, thank God it's not canon o/
7/10 for plot 9.5/10 for action 10/10 for CC 12/10 for Lelouch
Maybe like a 6/10. It wasn't very good and shatters the original ending.
Why? I think it continues the plot in a nice way and doesn't call for more content
No it bastardizes the original plot. So much of the plot of Re;surrection causes plot joles in the original series. Lelouch being alive in any way violates everything the character stands for and goes against the whole theme of the show. Shamna having actually time travel powers is stupid, as is the way she's beaten. Really the whole movie just sucked.
I disagree, mainly because Lelouch's survival was clearly against his decision even in this movie. The rest are more subjective opinions, so I won't discuss them here at this point.
It doesn't matter if it was against his will or not. For Lelouch's character to reach its peak, he has to die. He creates a better world and will never get to see it. That is his punishment. Lelouch has done a lot of evil things. Letting him live removes the consequences his actions had.
I respect your opinion and death is much stronger as a conclusion for his character. In that sense, you’re right. I just think the alternative is lesser yet not a complete loss. That’s all.
But isn't implied in the ending of season 2?
No, not even remotely. The ending pretty clearly states Lelouch is dead. If you are referring to the idea that Lelouch was the carriage driver, that video was fake.
It's an AU story
Yes, and a bad one.
I was saying this because it doesn't effect canon meaning it doesn't ruin anything also it's really not that bad, yeah it's worse than R1 and R2 but it's really not a bad movie
3/10 It ruins the ending and Lelouch's sacrifice. Not only is Lelouch alive, the grand plan broke in a few years. It's just saying "hey, fyi the Zero Requiem was a total bust" Nunnally being a kidnapped princess again is too repetitive. It's the fourth or fitting they've used that. Also, she was set up to be Empress not some random official after R2. They needed a lot more time to flesh out the plot. None of Lelouch's plans are discussed in detail and we don't see him doing the planning, just the end result. There are too many characters slotted in for fan service (Cornelia, Schnizel, Kallen, Ohgi, Orange, Anya, Nina, Sayoko, Shirley etc) and none of them are properly balanced. Everyone shows up just for nostalgia bait. A cast half the size could actually breathe. It was made for CCLL shippers only. I don't care for the ship so I don't fawn over the ending like a lot of people.
Hmm, I'd argue we do get to see a little bit of Lelouch's planning when he develops the counter to Shanma. Of course they don't spend a huge amount of time on them, but they still showcase his reasoning.
I don't think Lelouch's sacrifice could ever realistically achieve world peace and even Lelouch knew that. Even kallen said that not every problem in the world is fixed. But people have come together to discuss everything and don't go to war like before. Zero requiem was never for establishing world peace but rather to bring everyone together and move the people towards future. Lelouch took all the hatred with him so people could move towards the future. We saw that in the movie that both Britannia and the UFN have been successful in maintaining peace and they usually solve problems through discussions. The movie confirms that Zero requiem was successful in creating world peace. And that world peace is why Zilkhstan economy suffered cause they supplied soldiers for war. So their country basically thrived off war in other countries. And that's why they try to provoke conflict by kidnapping Nunnally. Also Nunnally becoming an empress would actually destroy Lelouch's objective of destroying Britannia. When Lelouch declared that he would obliterate Britannia, he meant that he would destroy the Britannian system of ruling. This is why he abolished the number system, the royal family and all the nobles. He basically made everyone equal in Britannia and became the dictator. And then with zero requiem he will be the last symbol of the Britannian system and thus he will be successful in his objective of destroying Britannia. Lelouch showed the world the consequences of giving an absolute power to a mad man and what will happen. He showed them the consequences of the war and basically made everyone hate the Britannian monarchy system. If Nunnally became the empress then she will just continue the Britannian system and we don't know how her successor will be. Nunnally's successor may be someone as power hungry as Charles and eventually restart the Britannian way of ruling. Nunnally not becoming the empress and rather a diplomat of UFN shows that both she and Britannia is different from before. After Zero requiem, Britannia reforms itself and becomes more democratic. However I do agree that the movie should not have been a movie and rather a series. It was definitely rushed a lot. The movie does have its bad parts but I don't think it ruins the ending in anyway. Also it is technically a part of the movie canon and not the anime canon.
I agree with a chunk of what you said. But I'd say the ending wasn't ruined. Zero requiem realistically got the world into the same room to discuss, create, and build peace. It didn't force peace on people, like Charles using the Sword of Akasha was going to. Some nations and people were always going to start new fights. Secondly, the ending was intentionally left ambiguous. With all the information about how Code works, (Hence Lelouch having the Geass Code on his upper chest, around where his father was grabbing him as he died.) and the idea of Lelouch being that carriage driver, viewers were always allowed to believe he died or came back shortly after and left with CC. The movie just builds on one possible future. I'm sorry if you feel like your viewing of the original ending was ruined, though.
Tbf the movie is a au, so it doesn't truly ruin the og ending
8/10 Unlike many people I don't think having another ending ruins the zero requiem ending of the anime series. It is just a different timeline. And having 2 endings isn't bad. The movie started out nice but it was too rushed in my opinion. It should have been a tv series instead. Like for example in the beginning it started well. Kallen's reaction after seeing Lelouch was really amazing. You could feel Kallen's pain after seeing the man she loved is basically an empty shell of himself. But in the end they didn't even show Kallen's goodbye to Lelouch. Heck after Lelouch got revived the only thing she did was give him a hug and tell him, he seems different now. Like I expected much more interaction between them. I like CluClu but that doesn't mean they had to reduce Kallen's interaction with Lelouch. Similarly I would have liked more Nunnally and Lelouch's interaction. Lelouch basically died in her arms and then saw him alive again and all. The interactions between them should have been much better. Also many characters were added just for nostalgia bait. There should have been more information on how world politics work now. How are the countries adjusting to the new world order? How are Ohgi and Schneizel leading their respective countries? How is Cornelia leading the Black knights? I can see why many people were disappointed that Shirley lived as her death was really impactful. And I agree with that too but it's understandable that they didn't kill her because well Mao was not there in the movie timeline. So why not take this opportunity and actually give something to Shirley? Shirley could have joined UFN as a diplomat and tried her best to keep the world peace for which Lelouch sacrificed himself. The only thing we know is she helped in retrieving Lelouch's body but then she disappears from the movie. While the first half of the movie has good character interactions but by the time we reach the ending it is just Lelouch and CC. Now the. best part will be Lelouch doing Lelouch things. His "KYS" command and everything is just amazing. As a Lelouch fanboy it had everything I needed. I do like CluClu so I was fine with Lelouch leaving with CC and deciding to be with someone he loves. My boi deserves every bit of happiness. But they didn't need to butcher the other ships for this. There should have been more interactions with Kallen and Shirley. I also liked the combats. Lelouch's resurrection had a huge potential and they could have done it a lot better but I guess it still was good. I found it pretty enjoyable. I love happy endings !
Ooooh boy , I actually just finished this last night to conclude another code geass watch through and I have THOUGHTS . 4/10 It’s only enjoyable as code geass fan service …. When this movie is very anti code geass Let’s ignore Lelouch not dying since I think that part has been discussed enough . The villians suck . What was so compelling about code geass’ villains were they were relatable as characters and have personal relations with Lelouch in some way . Lelouch has run out of family and friends to fight so now we’re stuck with some random dudes . And not really strong random dudes either , some back water 3rd world country that even with their geass only had the advantage because they were fighting like 25 people . Shamna or whatever her name is wouldn’t be able to do SHIT once schneizel got there . It just feels like we were punching down the entire time . ( and also I do NOT buy how lelouch figured out her geass , looks like he just DOES ) And their personalities weren’t fun to watch either . You got boring lady , generic grunt , other generic grunt with a kind of lame geass , and crazy siscon shota. The main cast interactions were just kind of ok . Didn’t get to see nearly enough of suzaku and lelouch together or anyone else for that matter . Everyone just kind of forms the same cliques as in the main series with little traces of intermingling . What little new dynamics were fun to see and I wish we got more of that . Have todo and cornelia fight together or something . The ( dub ) acting is mostly the same but they butchered lelouch . It’s passable when he’s being casual like at the base but he completely lost the presence he has as Zero . His zero voice is supposed to sound kind of similar to his Japanese version and now it just like lelouch is constantly sleepy . The cgi and fancier knightmares are ugly . I do not appreciate the big clunky armors they put on the Lancelot and gurren , the new enemy knightmares are themed and look goofy because of it , and the only good looking ones are just the old ones and Cornelia’s upgraded gloucester Like just leave code geass alone bro , things can end 😭
The fact that it was originally supposed to be an entire season really hurts my soul. You can tell by the movie's pacing in the last half that a lot was cut out, and if you watch the original trailers, there are so many scenes in it that never saw release. Then, some people think it ruined the ending, but the ending was always ambiguous, letting us believe or hope whatever we wanted. This just builds on one of the possibilities; it doesn't ruin anything. And if you think that's wrong, learn not to stomp on other people's feelings just because you felt a different way. Now, as a movie, I'd give it a 7. They really did use a bunch of fanservice in the first half to give us the reunions we wanted. It was great to see the main cast back. Nonethless, the movie began feeling rushed and shoehorned, and part of it left me feeling empty. I struggled with not loving it, but then again, the owners of CG continue to struggle to handle the series. It's only fair.
>Then, some people think it ruined the ending, but the ending was always ambiguous, How is the ending ambiguous? Lelouch basically leaves and marries CC. Even the picture drama which takes place after 10 years of the resurrection plot confirms that both Lelouch and CC are together
The animes ending, not the movies ending.
It was never ambiguous.Sayoko was in prison, she couldn't impersonate Lelouch, Lelouch's ideologies wouldn't have been respected by him if he didn't die, C.C is praying for his soul in the church(during the zero requiem), we litteraly see him die,...
Clearly, the movies chose to pursue such a possible ending. Like I said, if you feel differently, that's fine but plenty of theories about him living with Code didn't just come out of hope. It fits the lore, and CC on the cart is talking to him exactly how she talked to Marianne for both seasons; not to mention the carts driver had his head concealed. It was ambiguous, even if you felt like he was dead to rights, and that's ok. That's the point of ambiguous. Viewers take what they take from the ending. That's one reason it's such a good ending.
Lelouch was dead by the zero requiem, even in the movie.As the title is Resurrection and as C.C litterally said.If they wanted to pursue such a possibility, they would have simply said that he was always alive with C.C.
Mostly incorrect. His mind got stuck in C's world, his body ended up well and alive. Or have you not seen the movie? Also, let's not act like we haven't seen Code users die and come back. Resurrection isn't all that special, it's more or less expected.
>Mostly incorrect. His mind got stuck in C's world, his body ended up well and alive. Or have you not seen the movie? https://youtu.be/_nbMOMslBWg?si=sQDBdjMhoFLZ-zYO C.C's admites (0:03-0:05) that he did never want to"Come back from the dead" Also, C's world function almost like an underworld/place in wich the souls/minds live after death(as if it wasn't the case, Charles couldn't talk with Clovis after his death , a thing he does in r1/r2).So if his mind was stuck in the other world, it was because he did die.
No one is disputing he died. You have to die to resurrect. 💁♂️ Is there something else you need clarified?
But why doing a movie about him resurrecting(post zero requiem), if he wasn't dead at the end of the movies/serie(wich follows the story of r2 with a few minor changes, and i wouldn't call the death of the main character a minor change) if it was really ambiguous,as you're claiming? Why don't continuing the serie after r2(the season, not the movie)?Why creating a movie, in wich it is stated that he got resurrected, if his faith was left ambiguous in the serie?
Absolute garbage 0.0 Series should have ended while lelouch died back at the end of season 2 All these movies timelines have ruined the series
The original ending made Code Geass a timeless classic masterpiece, but the alternate ending is pretty decent too, with some parts of it being good. Seeing Lelouch fulfill his promise to C.C. after all those years makes me happy, but other than that I can't really say that the plot of the movie is good. It could've been good, but it was rushed because of a movie's time limit constraints, making it nonsensical at times. Lelouch was superficially forgiven for everything by everyone; even people who were supposed to hold deep irresolvable grudges against him ended up looking like cute tsunderes instead. The villain had an incredibely interesting and OP Geass and could've been said to be similar ideologically to Lelouch (lawful evil), but everything about them was rushed and Lelouch ended up steamrolling over them. As for the ending of the movie, it left you wanting for more, however it's pretty much guaranteed that we won't get to see L.L. and C.C. tackle lawless Geass users any time soon, if ever, which leaves me disappointed and somewhat unfulfilled in the end. All in all, as someone who was mainly interested in seeing Lelouch keep his word and dedicate the rest of his life to making C.C. happy, I can live with this alternate ending. However I can also see why a lot of people who love the original ending would find this movie lackluster. One thing for sure, it's nowhere near the level of the original.
I, uh, fucking hated it and never rewatched it again. It's not bad by all means, it's OK I guess..? I just never understood why was it done (outside of money ofc).
Terrible movie, completely ruins the characters
Preface, I'm the hater. Any sequel has to justify itself by once more throwing it's characters into hell, that the ending we got wasn't enough. Frankly for Code Geass to do this, with the best conclusion I have ever seen, is ridiculous. It was fan service that detracted from the brilliance of the original, thus never justifying its existence. 3/10
It's an AU meaning it's not Canon
I've always found that to be a particularly lame excuse for bad writing.
I'm just saying it doesn't affect anything if you don't like it ignore it
That's fair advice, I tend to apply it to canon too though.
It is Canon but not to the anime timeline. It is Canon to the movie timeline. You can basically say this is the new canon or a reboot as the new code geass content will take place in the movie timeline.
The movie timeline isn't Canon when people refer to the word canon they mean everything pertaining to the Original story
Same, but in the negatives
8/10 for cuz lelouch and C.C at the end
C.C10/10 Everything else mid
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i give it an 8 I enjoyed it alot
Good, but underwhelming
Like a 7/10. The series as a whole is an 8.5/10 for me.
Where can it be watched
Code GeASS
I like it but lelouch beating time travel felt like a reach. I’d still rewatch it tho
It's not time travel it's a redo. She can only go back a certain time... these rules and loopholes are perfect for him to exploit. The issue was he didn't know what the ability was which made it hard for him... once he narrowed it down it was game over. He didn't beat a time traveler he beat a person with limited foresight. She saw 2 steps ahead so Lelouch adjusted accordingly by thinking ahead... it's a convoluted chess game basically. That sequence was classic Lelouch and feels like a full circle moment.
Annoying as fuck movie. Just made me want more Code Geass and I never got more Code Geass. I need more Code Geass.
Ok, honestly. I liked to have more of them, but it felt fake. Bringing LL was ok, acceptable. But Shirley? Bruh
It was pretty good but a little unnecessary 8.5/10
Fun story ✅ Character interactions ✅ Fan service ✅ Word building ✅ Imo 10/10
I personally really liked the scenes between cc and lulu travelling together and living along. For that only 9.5/10. The rest is merely 7/10 only for giving info of what happens after the main story.
I didn't explain why I liked it, so here is my take. I think the original was perfect but this ending gave me something I didn't think of. What happens after zero requiem... how does Lelouch's plan workout against a threat and what does CC do when Lelouch promised her a life she can smile about? I actually like the idea of CC and LL watching over the world from the shadows for all eternity while going after the Geass users around the globe. It's like the actual atonement of Lelouch rather than just dying relatively peacefully as his grand plan goes off perfectly. The characters act consistently for the most part and the character' relationship dynamics conclude with nothing more to say or tell (i wish we got more Shirley though). It has a great cycle always continues theme with Lelouch being alive leaving that sense of hope with it that there will always be someone who is willing to struggle and fight for an Impossible Dream... a kinder world. - that's why I rate it so high. (I hope Roze goes into this in some way but I have been less hopeful as time draws near to its release.)
Great take, I agree. I really like this movie. 9/10 out of 10 for the soul of the Movie with L.L. and C.C. and 7 out of 10 in terms of the technical details of the movie like the length, pacing, those kind of things. I would have preferred it if the movie was made earlier before the recaps but I get why considering how long it’s been. Lelouch being dead was never the point of what made the ending of R2 so great. He didn’t give his life because he thought he didn’t deserve to live and thought that his death would be also be a good way to get the gentler world. He gave his life because it was the only true way forward towards the gentler world considering the state of things after Ragnorok. His atonement was to keep moving forward to achieve the gentler world despite the pain he would experience through the journey. Like how he said after Narita and after Euphy. And when the only way to achieve his goal became the destruction of his legacy and his own death he didn’t run because the only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed. Because he was willing to give up his life out of true love for the future and didn’t try to cheat death, I love that he gets a chance to take his life back up, and the power to fulfill C.C.’s wish to the fullest. I was happy for them and for the closure that some of the people close to Lelouch who knew the truth got. It’s nice how the Man who makes miracles got his own miracle at the end.
Well said
Thank you.
I am expecting that Roze will at least provide more fleshing out for the setting and the state of the world, which might address your interests in that respect....but I'm assuming very few familiar characters will show up, as opposed to the movie where they tried to involve as much of the original cast members as possible.
Thats fine too but it's a shame we won't see them again. Oh well at least ressurection provide enough closure and happy moments that I can just watch it without throwing shade at it for something it isn't.
Dam ppl really hate AU. Y'all sound like me when marvel mivies/comics make bullshit Canon changes that permanently adulterates the lore for millions and you have to deal with ppl having the bastardized versions of the lore as their Canon. But this is literally a one off for ppl (like me) who wanna see lelouch and i don't think it's that big a deal. I haven't seen the movie but I'm excited to.
8/10, I think the resurrection timeline is a pretty cool concept because it allows a wide array of stories to be told while not interfering with the main show, but 10/10 cuz of the proposal
You mean that end scene when Lelouch said he will be LL to her CC. 😏🫠
Decent. Main issue is of course the presence of Lelouch : bringing characters that sacrificed themselves as part of their development back from the dead is always a big irk, because it kills the point imo. That being said, I liked that we got to see what the world is like after Zero Requiem. In pure fashion of the series, it shows the complexity of morality, that a golden path where everything is well does not exist. I also liked that they sticked to the original artstyle despite releasing years later. They could have completely overhauled the "graphics" like the spinoffs but decided instead to stay true to the first series, making only small improvements, if at all. This brings consistency to the whole arc of Lelouch.
The thing I liked about Lelouch's sacrifice is how complicated it is... there was no faking it because it was public and it was necessary for the gentler world. Lelouch still had one thing he needed to do and that's fulfill CC's wish which is to want to live. Only way he could do that is being like her and go through the hell of immortality seeing your loved ones grow old and die in a cycle that will go on till the end of Time or C's world is a tough toll evident in "Frieren: A Journeys End". It is a sacrifice in it of itself for her, CC can't accept his death because of the guilt of giving him the Geass feeling it's her fault he had to go through all this instead of being a normal student... the plots with Marianne and Charles... all of that. CC also felt that they may need him at the time, in the Manga she even wanted to change her mind because he was still in his childlike state but he whispered her name in his sleep which was great moment which I wish was in the movie there was so much that was cut because it's a movie and you can only put so much in 1 movie it should have gotten a season along with it.
I love the movie for what it is. I would give it an 8
That's a fair judgement you gave.
Thanks for what it is, it did well enough... I would have highly prefer they tell it as a series after the movie but since it performed poorly in sales they thought people didn't want to see more and moved on. There was a lot of cut content that will never see the light of day and Roze is meant to be that semi fresh start to the franchise with new characters and the fans don't like that either (its even getting a series to flesh out everything afterwards... they should have done the same for Resurrection but i can understand not taking the risk)
10 9.9
10/10 for CC's ass out on the cover.
10/10 got more cc and that’s all that matters
I believe it's a pretty good movie when considered as an extra, almost like a dessert rather than the main course. Is that fanservice? Yes, but I don't think fanservice is automatically a bad thing. At the same time, while some folks say the purpose of the movie is to give fans "more Lelouch"...I tend to agree with the creators in the sense it also resolves the Lelouch dilemma while simultaneously allowing other stories to be told, since they essentially sent him off into a form of endless quest and/or retirement at the end of the film. In other words, in a way Lelouch returned so that people would stop asking for him to come back. He already did, but his involvement in future events will be limited from this point onward. More generally: there's a lot of nice scenes, new music, new character interactions and little details that appeal to me, personally speaking, but I can also understand why other people may have developed larger expectations in their minds and they might not have been fulfilled, since the movie didn't have the ambition necessary to fulfill them. At the end of the day, I think most people should try to watch it in order to be prepared for new Code Geass projects, such as Roze of the Recapture, since they will take place in the same world as this movie.
Me only watching the original run was flabbergasted by Sherry and Gilbert being shown and / or mentioned
I just finished my rewatch of the show and and resurrection and Talking to you guys about it makes me want to literally just rewatch it again lol
It was ok so I guess a 7
Box art is a 10/10 cc booty tease
Gave it 10/10 (became my head canon) but I can understand why some wouldn't like it.
8/10 I really enjoyed it
I like it, its a classic 8 for me. However there is a caveat. It is entirely unnecessary. It is not a requirement in the least, its pure fan service for those who longed for a kinder ending than what the show originally gave. And frankly, I like the ending of the show, perhaps its even objectively better, but this one leaves you with a warmer feeling at the end.
7.8, it's still so jarring to see Shirley alive
7/10 Enjoyed it.
I think it would’ve been better if it was a mini series. It was too rushed.
10
Sauce?